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Poole council tax to rise by 4.8 per cent


COUNCIL taxpayers in Poole are likely to face a 4.8 per cent rise from April this year.

Cabinet is recommending to full council next Thursday that council tax is increased by 4.8 per cent for 2009/10.

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This means the annual charge for a band D property would be £1,175.49, a rise of £1.04 a week.

“We are very conscious of the impact of any increase in council tax at a time when many people in our community are beginning to feel the effects of the economic downturn,” said council leader, Cllr Brian Leverett. “Similarly, the council has to make very difficult decisions about its own budget as a result of the downturn, with income from planning fees and investments falling sharply,” he said.

“At the same time, the demand for our services is increasing greatly as more people look to the council for help and support. Unfortunately, this means we cannot avoid a rise in council tax this year, but we’ve worked hard to keep this as low as possible,” he said.

Borough of Poole is among the lowest funded of all unitary authorities, with a funding settlement from the government of 1.75 per cent compared to 3.4 per cent nationally.

He added: “Our priority remains to deliver services that residents need at an affordable level and not to cut key services unless unavoidable.”

However Liberal Democrats will be urging a rise of under four per cent, at a time when many residents are struggling to make ends meet.

“There are areas where extra savings can be found,” said Cllr Mike Brooke, leader of the Lib Dem group.

“There doesn’t appear to be a freeze in portfolio holders’ massive 67 per cent increase in their allowances. They ought to be part of the budget and setting an example.”



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dopey, says...
7:43pm Wed 11 Feb 09

said council leader, Cllr Brian Leverett. "...income from planning fees and investments falling sharply,”

Oh dear, can we not tempt anyone to build more blocks of yuppie flats and put our spare cash in Banco de Collapso ?

paul.p, says...
9:01pm Wed 11 Feb 09

There are 2,5 million families losing their houses because of the credit crunch and yet they STILL put the council Tax up... I don't get anything extra out of this so why the h'ell should I pay more just because you can't balance the bloody books with the amount of cash you extract from the conurbation of Poole. I wish this council had never gone Unitary. What a rip off!

JoJay, Poole says...
8:44am Thu 12 Feb 09

Where do these people expect the extra cash that they are demanding to keep coming from, none of us have got money trees in our back garden. I've been told not to expect a pay rise but again all the services keep going up. Give us all a break.

sea poole, poole says...
8:56am Thu 12 Feb 09

Please, please, councillors, return your substantial pay rise in allowances etc. that you received earlier this year as a gesture of goodwill. I'm sure as a consequence your gesture will be welcomed and appreciated by hard-hit taxpayers...

southcoastmatt, Branksome says...
9:07am Thu 12 Feb 09

Oh dear, Oh dear, oh dear. Poole Council - you are not doing yourself any favours here! At times when the majority of hard working families are struggling to make ends meet, redundancy hovering over peoples heads and house prices dropping like a stone, you should be ashamed of yourselves. My home town is being torn apart by a generation of bureaucrats who are stuck in the 20th century. We need some young, new blood in our council representing the masses and not the fortunate few. Mr Leverett and your cronies, how do your sleep at night?

Zzzz, Poole says...
9:17am Thu 12 Feb 09

These councillors have no social conscience as they greedily bump up their own allowances and then demand extra tax from us all in such difficult times. And if you don't pay up, you go to prison and/or have your home repossessed. Where's Robin Hood when you need him?

MJD, HAMWORTHY says...
9:21am Thu 12 Feb 09

Robing Hood. Yes not Robin Hood. The Tory council big fat pay rises. I can remember the Liberal democrats when they run the council and we were in hard times they turned down there pay rise and if Cllr Leverett and his band of merry men stop wasting money on hair brain scheme. There would be no need for a increase.

southcoastmatt, Branksome says...
10:14am Thu 12 Feb 09

Where can I find published on the internet details of salaries AND expenses from the last 3 financial years for our 'Con Councilors'? I bet my(ever-diminishing value)house that their increase is greater than 4.8%!! Get in to the real world Leverett - listen to the people not your cronies.

John T, Poole says...
10:43am Thu 12 Feb 09

Cllr Leverett says 'we have worked hard to keep (the increase) as low as possible'. What he means by this, is, once again, to keep the increase as high as is allowable before they are 'capped' by the Government.The increase is 3 TIMES the inflation rate.
Whatever happened to all those reserves Leverett constantly boasted about having prudently put aside for a rainy day? They can't all have gone to pay for increases in Councillors' allowances and consultants' fees.

GB916, christchurch says...
11:03am Thu 12 Feb 09

We in christchurch are awaiting our inflated council tax bills,i too have been 2 yrs without a pay rise,but it makes no difference,everythin
g else still goes up and i have to pay,sat down and worked out that if the current trend continues,in 10 yrs time i will not earn enough money to pay my bills,so maybe its time for me to go with the dole scroungers and live the life of riley,as they clearly have more money than me and i have always worked fulltime

MoordownMarc, Bournemouth says...
11:16am Thu 12 Feb 09

Look I am sorry but please stop moaning, the Council deserve every penny of our 4.8% tax rise.
I mean how else can our esteemed masters in the Civic Centre pay themselves those life time golden pensions and enjoy their nice short 37 hour weeks.
In the private sector where the humble servants toil many are working nearly twice as long just to keep their increasingly vulnerable jobs and of course pay their taxes - their pensions were broken by Mr Broon years ago.
Two tier Britain, those that take and those that have to give.

Andy D, Poole says...
1:25pm Thu 12 Feb 09

Disgusting "keep lining your pockets you greedy council leaders".
I wish everyone in Poole could get together and refuse to pay it.
I am a homeowner in Poole and cant see how Poole council can justify this increase. Oh and by the way does the council tax bill advise that spare cash will be invested and lost in overseas banks????????

let-it-loose, Poole says...
1:47pm Thu 12 Feb 09

How many households are there in Poole? 50,000 I guess. Probably only half of these pay full council tax. A significant proportion will be paying no council tax at all. So The council are asking 25,000 people in the borough to cough up more money and lots of these will be pensioners. These aren't the type of people to complain and the council know that. Poor old Leverett, a latter day Robin Hood stealing from the rich and giving to the poor. Only these days if you just do an honest days' work they'll steal from you in order to accommodate the "career" poor. What have they done with all the extra council tax revenue generated by the property boom of the last 10 years. Wasted it.

godzillareturns, poole says...
2:56pm Thu 12 Feb 09

Andy D wrote:
Disgusting "keep lining your pockets you greedy council leaders". I wish everyone in Poole could get together and refuse to pay it. I am a homeowner in Poole and cant see how Poole council can justify this increase. Oh and by the way does the council tax bill advise that spare cash will be invested and lost in overseas banks????????
good idea andyd if we all stopped paying for just a month that would be a start, I fear it ould never happen though.

John T, Poole says...
4:27pm Thu 12 Feb 09

If this is to be the end of the Life of Brian, 'We can Always Look on the Bright Side of Life!!'

Maureen Arthur, Hamlet of Poole says...
5:58pm Thu 12 Feb 09

well I think the council do a great job and thank / congratulate them for their tireless work.

Raise tax by 10% if you like - your're worth it!

oink.

John T, Poole says...
6:39pm Thu 12 Feb 09

Maureen Arthur
I assume you meant tyreless work, as the wheels came off their wagon a long time ago!

kiltnasty, Oakdale, Poole says...
9:38am Fri 13 Feb 09

In the week that Poole Council are advertising yet more non-jobs, at large salaries and no doubt good pensions, they have the cheek to announce this obscene rise. The minority of us who pay full council tax are fed up of subsidising their unchecked largesse.

All Seeing Eye, Poole says...
9:48am Fri 13 Feb 09

Poole council employees get FREE car parking in a multi-storey car park at the Civic Centre originally built for Poole residents. Employees who work in Poole get concessionary parking tickets. The employees are ‘advised’ not to discuss parking arrangements. If you or I have to visit the Civic Centre we have to pay!!
They also have a Civic Club where they can purchase subsidised soft drinks, alcohol and food.
These things have to be paid for and who pays for them - Mugs like us!! Hence one reason for the council tax increase, although you don’t read things like this in their blurb.

A Council Worker, Wareham says...
12:50pm Fri 13 Feb 09

Sorry to contradict the last post, but the Civic Club (aka 'canteen') no longer exists. Such things (along with limited workday parking places) would of course never be allowed to exist in the private sector! And by the way, we all pay Council Tax too.

stuartc73, Parkstone says...
10:31am Sat 14 Feb 09

I used to work for the council 5 years ago and whilst this administration has more of a clue than the previous shower of **** I can assure you that the place is in cuckoo land compared to the real world. Employees bemoan their low pay which they believe justifies their non-sustainable - to taxpayers - final salary pension schemes. The reality is that their pay when you have been there for a while is often more that the private sector. Considering you can get away with doing half the work, never get fired and have a job for life it's a very good deal.
5 easy ways to save money
1) Scrap Poole News. Self serving Propaganda. Only keep it if it is self funding by private advertising.
2) Cut the marketing department. Why do we need marketing?? They're not selling anything. Council taxes are compulsory, you can't opt out. The only marketing needed is minimal for tourism.
We're paying people to dream up stupid buzzwords and phrases that mean nothing. Such as striving for 'Excellency'. Striving for adequacy more like.
3) If Poole Council doesn't have debt and have reserves in the bank, why are you keeping the reserves? You will only end up being tempted to spend it on something. The reserves should be diminished by lower Council Tax.
4) Offer partnership deals with neighbouring Councils to reduce admin costs. Seems to me there is a duplication of Government officials only 5 miles down the road at Bournemouth.
5) Combine the post of Finance Director and Chief Executive.

Just the tip of the iceberg.
Remember whose money it is.

Localsfirst, Poole says...
3:55pm Sat 14 Feb 09

This thieving is blatant crimial robbery. It proves that Poole is finished - at THE END. There is no future here.

SPM73, Poole says...
10:21pm Sat 14 Feb 09

stuartc73 makes some very valid points. I worked for Poole Council for 15 years from 1991 so know a little bit about what goes on and agree 100% with everything that stuartc73 says.
The Council have money in the bank (probably millions) in reserve for a rainy day. Surely this is a Rainy Day, we are in a world wide recession and unemployment is at it's highest rate for years. What exactly are they saving this money for?
In the 15 years I worked for the council I could not even begin to guess how much money I saw them waste on things like - stationery costs, Marketing schemes (including printing costs for useless documents, publications and posters etc), projects that last for months and go nowhere or get canned, Job Evaluation (this has been going on for 4 years and is still not finalised, what a joke!), paying off incompetent managers rather than sack them, continuing to employee incompetent staff rather than sack them.
To be fair, there are one or two decent Councillors and there are some good Managers, but they are few and far between.
Most of the staff at Poole Council (excluding cllrs and senior managers) are decent hardworking people like the rest of us, and they are the ones that will take the brunt of the publics frustration rather than the cllrs and managers. Maybe they should spend some time at the Councills reception area or on the phone to the public, but I doubt that will ever happen.

Cllr Brian Leverett. “Similarly, the council has to make very difficult decisions about its own budget as a result of the downturn" - So does this mean then that Cllrs (who are voted in by the people) will do their bit this year and not take a huge pay rise and perhaps not put in that expense claim that they can probably afford anyway! What do you think!!?

All Seeing Eye, Poole says...
10:46pm Sun 15 Feb 09

A Council Worker wrote:
Sorry to contradict the last post, but the Civic Club (aka 'canteen') no longer exists. Such things (along with limited workday parking places) would of course never be allowed to exist in the private sector! And by the way, we all pay Council Tax too.
You obviously 'work' for the council.
Two items are incorrect in your comment; I will not call them 'lies but let people decide for themselves.
• Private companies do not have car parks built by a local authority for the local rate payers then have them taken over by council employee’s.
• The Civic Club does exist; the name plate is opposite the Police Station and the club is under the Civic Centre.
I know you have to try and defend your ‘perks’ but don’t patronise the council rate payers with false comments.
I don't understand why you have to comment on paying council tax, do you think you should be exempt from that as well as all your other perks?

A Council Worker, Wareham says...
9:12am Mon 16 Feb 09

Sorry, but you're wrong - the Civic Club closed for good last September. My point about employee car parking was that it's not unusual and my last employer (a private company) did just that. And re Council Tax, I was just pointing out that we all pay for local public services too.

SPM73, Poole says...
2:49pm Mon 16 Feb 09

All Seeing Eye wrote:
A Council Worker wrote: Sorry to contradict the last post, but the Civic Club (aka 'canteen') no longer exists. Such things (along with limited workday parking places) would of course never be allowed to exist in the private sector! And by the way, we all pay Council Tax too.
You obviously 'work' for the council. Two items are incorrect in your comment; I will not call them 'lies but let people decide for themselves. • Private companies do not have car parks built by a local authority for the local rate payers then have them taken over by council employee’s. • The Civic Club does exist; the name plate is opposite the Police Station and the club is under the Civic Centre. I know you have to try and defend your ‘perks’ but don’t patronise the council rate payers with false comments. I don't understand why you have to comment on paying council tax, do you think you should be exempt from that as well as all your other perks?
Sorry but you are wrong about the Civic Club. I am the last person to stand up for the Council, but the Civic Club was about the only perk (other than parking) that the staff at the Civic Centre had. Most places of work have at least a canteen, the Civic Club ceased selling alcohol years ago and was turned into a canteen/meeting area. It has now been closed completely due to "lack of funds".

All Seeing Eye, Poole says...
3:12pm Mon 16 Feb 09

SPM73 wrote:
All Seeing Eye wrote:
A Council Worker wrote: Sorry to contradict the last post, but the Civic Club (aka 'canteen') no longer exists. Such things (along with limited workday parking places) would of course never be allowed to exist in the private sector! And by the way, we all pay Council Tax too.
You obviously 'work' for the council. Two items are incorrect in your comment; I will not call them 'lies but let people decide for themselves. • Private companies do not have car parks built by a local authority for the local rate payers then have them taken over by council employee’s. • The Civic Club does exist; the name plate is opposite the Police Station and the club is under the Civic Centre. I know you have to try and defend your ‘perks’ but don’t patronise the council rate payers with false comments. I don't understand why you have to comment on paying council tax, do you think you should be exempt from that as well as all your other perks?
Sorry but you are wrong about the Civic Club. I am the last person to stand up for the Council, but the Civic Club was about the only perk (other than parking) that the staff at the Civic Centre had. Most places of work have at least a canteen, the Civic Club ceased selling alcohol years ago and was turned into a canteen/meeting area. It has now been closed completely due to "lack of funds".
I stand corrected :-)

Zzzz, Poole says...
12:35pm Tue 17 Feb 09

Considering that the RPI measure of inflation is predicted to go into negative territory this year, it make the 4.8% increase look even worse. By benefiting from lower costs in the economy (not to mention dipping into their vast reserves), they should be able to cut the council tax, not increase it!

kiltnasty, Oakdale, Poole says...
12:14pm Sun 22 Feb 09

I'm not surprised that Poole council need so much money - just look at the salaries they are paying executives and department heads. 67K for head of housing - totally over the top, get rid of all the other non-jobs and put a hold on all capital spending.

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