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| OFFER: Alan Pither |
ALAN Pither claims his 11th hour rival bid to buy Cherries is the club's answer to a secure future.
Pither, along with partners Gerard Day and Melvyn Newman, last night decided to go public in an exclusive interview with the Echo after Cherries administrator Gerald Krasner revealed a fresh bid to buy the club was placed on the table on Monday night.
Day is a St Albans-based finance expert, while Newman is one of the country's biggest fruit farmers and lives in Canterbury.
However, while Krasner would not be drawn on the names of those behind the new offer at yesterday's press conference, Pither, the frontman of Bournemouth Holdings Ltd, a new company set up last month with the sole purpose of acquiring the football club, has decided to speak out.
The Echo understands Pither has provided substantial funding, along with Mostyn, to pay wages recently, with Pither, Day and Newman believed to have been the main money men behind preferred bidder Mostyn's consortium up until last week.
Relations, however, apparently turned sour before last Tuesday's delayed press conference.
That sparked Pither to make his own bid for the ailing club on Monday, with Mostyn now understood to be working with a new consortium put together with the help of new Cherries chief executive Alistair Saverimutto and his Sport-6 marketing company.
Saverimutto and Sport-6 had previously expressed an interest in fronting up a bid for both Chester City and, it is understood, Luton Town before linking up with Mostyn more recently.
Pither revealed last night that Bournemouth Holdings had struck a deal with New Milton-based Parkcrest Construction for the land behind Dean Court's East Stand and the option on the land behind the South Stand. The deal is now understood to be going through the legal process.
Pither told the Echo: "We've been involved with the club on and off since November, but Jeff (Mostyn) came to us six weeks ago because he had nobody else to go to and we put a deal together.
"I've been in the club for the past five weeks, three days a week, and I was introduced to the staff three weeks ago as the new owner. On Thursday I got a call from Jeff saying, I'm going to do this deal on my own'."
Pither would not be drawn on rumours of a disagreement on funding between Krasner and the consortium as it stood last week, but Krasner, in yesterday's press briefing, said: "The deal I've had to strike to pay the wages last week is that I needed some money and people who've given me the money have the right to exclusivity. When I asked other people at the same time, Are you prepared to up your offer to give me money?' the answer was, We're not in a position to do that'."
When asked whether his bid was made in anger after the split with Mostyn, Pither replied: "There was a lot of people out there who wanted to steal' the club for £1 and with the inside track we had, we could have been one of them.
"But we weren't and we've got the best interests of the club at heart. Our bid, I believe, is the best one for the club.
"We want to buy the club and it's a proper bid. The money to buy the club is still sitting with my lawyer and it was there under the old offer."
On the land deal with Parkcrest, Pither added: "I'm in the process of buying the land behind the East Stand and the option on the land behind the South Stand. Those deals are going through the legal process.
"I told Parkcrest the plans we had for the land, we'll probably get them to do the build, and we will stick half the profits back into the club.
"I'd like to take the club forward and, with regard to the property deals, even if I'm not the owner, I'm not saying I wouldn't put any of that money back into the club.
"But I don't want any bad press for the club going forward and if Jeff is the one who takes it forward then I hope he makes a success of it."
Administrator Krasner confirmed Pither's consortium as the new bidders when contacted by the Echo last night. Mostyn declined to comment in a phone call from the Echo last night.
Krasner, meanwhile, is understood to have given Mostyn a deadline of Friday for further funding.
7:00am Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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CommentPosted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 7:51am Wed 2 Jul 08
Jeff doesnt seem to be able to keep his Business Partners for long does he hmmm
Jeff doesnt seem to be able to keep his Business Partners for long does he hmmm
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 8:03am Wed 2 Jul 08
Forgive me for asking but if Mr savermutto is now employed by the Club on a 6 figure salary as stated in the other post. In the unlikely event that krassner allows this alternative bid to be given a level chance and it succeeds sure Mr Savermuto will then be an employee of a rival bidder. With that in mind wouldnt it have been wiser to delay Mr Savermuttos appointment until Jeff had actually got the Club. And the other point I would like to raise is If this new bidder was the Money behind Jeffs bid as this says and the money is still with Lawyers one would assume that the bid financialy at least is the same as Jeffs bid but as Mr Krassner says quite clearly that Jeffs bid is higher , has Jeff increased his bid. All very strange I think
Forgive me for asking but if Mr savermutto is now employed by the Club on a 6 figure salary as stated in the other post. In the unlikely event that krassner allows this alternative bid to be given a level chance and it succeeds sure Mr Savermuto will then be an employee of a rival bidder. With that in mind wouldnt it have been wiser to delay Mr Savermuttos appointment until Jeff had actually got the Club. And the other point I would like to raise is If this new bidder was the Money behind Jeffs bid as this says and the money is still with Lawyers one would assume that the bid financialy at least is the same as Jeffs bid but as Mr Krassner says quite clearly that Jeffs bid is higher , has Jeff increased his bid. All very strange I think
Posted by: brian, Blandford on 8:19am Wed 2 Jul 08
I think the time has come to stop trying to understand the comings and goings at Dean Court. It is little more than a bad pantomime. You can make your mind up about who to cast in the roles of Dame, Ugly sisters, Baddy and Fairy Godmother. Just hope that, like all pantomimes, it turns out alright in the end!
I think the time has come to stop trying to understand the comings and goings at Dean Court. It is little more than a bad pantomime. You can make your mind up about who to cast in the roles of Dame, Ugly sisters, Baddy and Fairy Godmother. Just hope that, like all pantomimes, it turns out alright in the end!
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 9:04am Wed 2 Jul 08
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
Posted by: kenno, Sidmouth on 9:09am Wed 2 Jul 08
In my business dealings whenever the words "we want this business to be successful" followed by the mention of "property deals" used to bring the phrase "words and figures differ" to mind,and a shiver down my spine.
Personally I couldn't care less if mickey mouse wanted to buy the club as long as his heart was in the right place and he was prepared to clear all our debts, put in place a workable business plan, and enough money to pay the wages and bring in a few quality players.
I just want to be able to support my football team.
Perhaps the sadness in this day and age is that ulterior motives usually come first rather than the other way around.
In my business dealings whenever the words "we want this business to be successful" followed by the mention of "property deals" used to bring the phrase "words and figures differ" to mind,and a shiver down my spine.
Personally I couldn't care less if mickey mouse wanted to buy the club as long as his heart was in the right place and he was prepared to clear all our debts, put in place a workable business plan, and enough money to pay the wages and bring in a few quality players.
I just want to be able to support my football team.
Perhaps the sadness in this day and age is that ulterior motives usually come first rather than the other way around.
Posted by: Paul W, Charminster, Bomo on 9:18am Wed 2 Jul 08
A fruit farmer from Canterbury? Seriously
Guys...these people are after the land and mayeb a pick-ur-own on the pitch.
We can't do with anymore messing about - im starting to feel sorry for Mostyn which is a very bad sign!
A fruit farmer from Canterbury? Seriously
Guys...these people are after the land and mayeb a pick-ur-own on the pitch.
We can't do with anymore messing about - im starting to feel sorry for Mostyn which is a very bad sign!
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 9:49am Wed 2 Jul 08
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.[/quote] Yes its not looking good is it. And you are right Mostyn seems to want to keep everything close to his chest Mind you he keeps changing his partners so no wonder he cant make a statement sounds like he was ready to announce his plans with the Bmth Holdings lot last Tuesday but something happeneed that made him jump ship.
I know you think I am negative and maybe I am but I want this Club to survive long term and this bloke worries me because he is messing about with the future of this Club and as you said a while back its getting to be to late and we will have to accept anything just to keep going. I dont trust Mostyn and this has done nothing to make me change my mind.
GMcMahon wrote:
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
Yes its not looking good is it. And you are right Mostyn seems to want to keep everything close to his chest Mind you he keeps changing his partners so no wonder he cant make a statement sounds like he was ready to announce his plans with the Bmth Holdings lot last Tuesday but something happeneed that made him jump ship.
I know you think I am negative and maybe I am but I want this Club to survive long term and this bloke worries me because he is messing about with the future of this Club and as you said a while back its getting to be to late and we will have to accept anything just to keep going. I dont trust Mostyn and this has done nothing to make me change my mind.
Posted by: fletcher4manager, SP6 on 9:53am Wed 2 Jul 08
I just feel, there are so many things being kept from the fans, I have a horrible feeling its all going to go even more belly up than it already is. Anyone else got the feeling we will still be in admin for a long time yet?
I just feel, there are so many things being kept from the fans, I have a horrible feeling its all going to go even more belly up than it already is. Anyone else got the feeling we will still be in admin for a long time yet?
Posted by: ondulado, bournemouth on 9:55am Wed 2 Jul 08
Why would someone come in so late with a bid that isn't as good as Mostyns bid ? It doesn't make any sense if we are to believe what is being said. A serious bidder would ensure that his bid was better otherwise what's the point? I thought the deal was done and dusted and because of that i happily sent off for my season ticket at the weekend. Now I am worried again by all this and hope i have not just sent another few hundred quid down the pan!
Why would someone come in so late with a bid that isn't as good as Mostyns bid ? It doesn't make any sense if we are to believe what is being said. A serious bidder would ensure that his bid was better otherwise what's the point? I thought the deal was done and dusted and because of that i happily sent off for my season ticket at the weekend. Now I am worried again by all this and hope i have not just sent another few hundred quid down the pan!
Posted by: anton, uk on 10:05am Wed 2 Jul 08
Mostyn seems to come out of this as egotistical, greedy and untrustworthy. If I were a sponsor I would not do business with someone who seems so apt to stabbing business partners in the back.
Mostyn seems to come out of this as egotistical, greedy and untrustworthy. If I were a sponsor I would not do business with someone who seems so apt to stabbing business partners in the back.
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 10:07am Wed 2 Jul 08
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.[/quote] Now perhaps you can see I wasnt so negative about Mostyn. He may be the Saviour of the Club (I doubt it) but even if he is the way he goes about things is terrible. He keeps losing partners he gets preffered status without making a bid and now it still looks like he is going to pull the plug. Your last paragraph just about sums it up . Beware of People with false promises. Mostyn doesnt have the money for any long term commitment to take this Club forward and this Pither bloke seems to have the aces by getting the land . This is really twisting and turning by the day and I honestly think that if Mostyn doesnt give Krassner money on Friday he will show that he is walking which he said he would never do.
I may be talking a lot of rot but I cant get my head round all this deciept and hype WHY CANT THE ECHO SUB THE REPORTING OUT TO PROPER JOURNOS
GMcMahon wrote:
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
Now perhaps you can see I wasnt so negative about Mostyn. He may be the Saviour of the Club (I doubt it) but even if he is the way he goes about things is terrible. He keeps losing partners he gets preffered status without making a bid and now it still looks like he is going to pull the plug. Your last paragraph just about sums it up . Beware of People with false promises. Mostyn doesnt have the money for any long term commitment to take this Club forward and this Pither bloke seems to have the aces by getting the land . This is really twisting and turning by the day and I honestly think that if Mostyn doesnt give Krassner money on Friday he will show that he is walking which he said he would never do.
I may be talking a lot of rot but I cant get my head round all this deciept and hype WHY CANT THE ECHO SUB THE REPORTING OUT TO PROPER JOURNOS
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 10:09am Wed 2 Jul 08
[quote][bold]anton[/bold] wrote:
Mostyn seems to come out of this as egotistical, greedy and untrustworthy. If I were a sponsor I would not do business with someone who seems so apt to stabbing business partners in the back.[/quote] Spot on when you consider that he seems to change partners as often as he changes his underpants who could have confidence in him.
anton wrote:
Mostyn seems to come out of this as egotistical, greedy and untrustworthy. If I were a sponsor I would not do business with someone who seems so apt to stabbing business partners in the back.
Spot on when you consider that he seems to change partners as often as he changes his underpants who could have confidence in him.
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 10:13am Wed 2 Jul 08
[quote][bold]ondulado[/bold] wrote:
Why would someone come in so late with a bid that isn't as good as Mostyns bid ? It doesn't make any sense if we are to believe what is being said. A serious bidder would ensure that his bid was better otherwise what's the point? I thought the deal was done and dusted and because of that i happily sent off for my season ticket at the weekend. Now I am worried again by all this and hope i have not just sent another few hundred quid down the pan![/quote] Agreed thats the bit I dont get apparantly the money is with Lawyers and its the money that was going to be used for the Mostyn bid that was accepted before Jeff changed partners again.
So how on earth can it be less unless Mostyns new Pals offered more. Another thing is how can the Administrator accept a bid and then allow it to continue when the funding is in the hands of a partner that is no longer in the consortium surely thay would all have to bid again.
ondulado wrote:
Why would someone come in so late with a bid that isn't as good as Mostyns bid ? It doesn't make any sense if we are to believe what is being said. A serious bidder would ensure that his bid was better otherwise what's the point? I thought the deal was done and dusted and because of that i happily sent off for my season ticket at the weekend. Now I am worried again by all this and hope i have not just sent another few hundred quid down the pan!
Agreed thats the bit I dont get apparantly the money is with Lawyers and its the money that was going to be used for the Mostyn bid that was accepted before Jeff changed partners again.
So how on earth can it be less unless Mostyns new Pals offered more. Another thing is how can the Administrator accept a bid and then allow it to continue when the funding is in the hands of a partner that is no longer in the consortium surely thay would all have to bid again.
Posted by: frankfidler, florida usa on 11:37am Wed 2 Jul 08
any plans for hotel, casino and offices on land been submitted?
any plans for hotel, casino and offices on land been submitted?
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 11:49am Wed 2 Jul 08
[quote][bold]kevvo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.[/quote] Now perhaps you can see I wasnt so negative about Mostyn. He may be the Saviour of the Club (I doubt it) but even if he is the way he goes about things is terrible. He keeps losing partners he gets preffered status without making a bid and now it still looks like he is going to pull the plug. Your last paragraph just about sums it up . Beware of People with false promises. Mostyn doesnt have the money for any long term commitment to take this Club forward and this Pither bloke seems to have the aces by getting the land . This is really twisting and turning by the day and I honestly think that if Mostyn doesnt give Krassner money on Friday he will show that he is walking which he said he would never do.
I may be talking a lot of rot but I cant get my head round all this deciept and hype WHY CANT THE ECHO SUB THE REPORTING OUT TO PROPER JOURNOS [/quote] And now you can see I was not joking when I said there were deals being done and other investors were about and Mostyn was not the money, so we have all been taken for a ride in my honest opinion, I said we needed to back any deal that saves the club it looks like Jeff was thinking the same thing, he's been lining up these deals and then when they find out what he wants out of it they jump ship, even as recently as last week, no wonder that press conference said nothing and was delayed. I seriously hope this does come to and end Friday, I still get the very strong feeling that when we do come out of administration Jeff Mostyn will not be the one doing it, didn't he say as long ago as February that if a better deal came in he would step aside, well if ever there looked like that happening the news today is strongly suggesting just that. All very clever stuff, no wonder it's been so quiet for so long.
kevvo wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
Now perhaps you can see I wasnt so negative about Mostyn. He may be the Saviour of the Club (I doubt it) but even if he is the way he goes about things is terrible. He keeps losing partners he gets preffered status without making a bid and now it still looks like he is going to pull the plug. Your last paragraph just about sums it up . Beware of People with false promises. Mostyn doesnt have the money for any long term commitment to take this Club forward and this Pither bloke seems to have the aces by getting the land . This is really twisting and turning by the day and I honestly think that if Mostyn doesnt give Krassner money on Friday he will show that he is walking which he said he would never do.
I may be talking a lot of rot but I cant get my head round all this deciept and hype WHY CANT THE ECHO SUB THE REPORTING OUT TO PROPER JOURNOS
And now you can see I was not joking when I said there were deals being done and other investors were about and Mostyn was not the money, so we have all been taken for a ride in my honest opinion, I said we needed to back any deal that saves the club it looks like Jeff was thinking the same thing, he's been lining up these deals and then when they find out what he wants out of it they jump ship, even as recently as last week, no wonder that press conference said nothing and was delayed. I seriously hope this does come to and end Friday, I still get the very strong feeling that when we do come out of administration Jeff Mostyn will not be the one doing it, didn't he say as long ago as February that if a better deal came in he would step aside, well if ever there looked like that happening the news today is strongly suggesting just that. All very clever stuff, no wonder it's been so quiet for so long.
Posted by: brock_and_roll, Brock on 12:02pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Looks to me that Pither has pulled a fast one here by doing a deal direct with Krasner to buy the land.
The wording on Pither's statement gives the impression that this is a done deal and is going ahead. Without the land, I would have throught that the chances of Mostyn being able to find more funders is just about nil.
Therefore, although Mostyn's bid is currently higher, it looks likely that he will not be able to meet the deadline to secure the funding. Pither will therefore pay £X for the land and £1 for the club (which is all its worth without the land). Mostyn will then have to get in a queue with all the other creditors for his share of the total whatever that is.
Not looking good to be honest - if the league had the balls they would chuck us out the league for these kind of schenanigans.
Looks to me that Pither has pulled a fast one here by doing a deal direct with Krasner to buy the land.
The wording on Pither's statement gives the impression that this is a done deal and is going ahead. Without the land, I would have throught that the chances of Mostyn being able to find more funders is just about nil.
Therefore, although Mostyn's bid is currently higher, it looks likely that he will not be able to meet the deadline to secure the funding. Pither will therefore pay £X for the land and £1 for the club (which is all its worth without the land). Mostyn will then have to get in a queue with all the other creditors for his share of the total whatever that is.
Not looking good to be honest - if the league had the balls they would chuck us out the league for these kind of schenanigans.
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 12:08pm Wed 2 Jul 08
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]kevvo[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote: So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.[/quote] Now perhaps you can see I wasnt so negative about Mostyn. He may be the Saviour of the Club (I doubt it) but even if he is the way he goes about things is terrible. He keeps losing partners he gets preffered status without making a bid and now it still looks like he is going to pull the plug. Your last paragraph just about sums it up . Beware of People with false promises. Mostyn doesnt have the money for any long term commitment to take this Club forward and this Pither bloke seems to have the aces by getting the land . This is really twisting and turning by the day and I honestly think that if Mostyn doesnt give Krassner money on Friday he will show that he is walking which he said he would never do. I may be talking a lot of rot but I cant get my head round all this deciept and hype WHY CANT THE ECHO SUB THE REPORTING OUT TO PROPER JOURNOS [/quote] And now you can see I was not joking when I said there were deals being done and other investors were about and Mostyn was not the money, so we have all been taken for a ride in my honest opinion, I said we needed to back any deal that saves the club it looks like Jeff was thinking the same thing, he's been lining up these deals and then when they find out what he wants out of it they jump ship, even as recently as last week, no wonder that press conference said nothing and was delayed. I seriously hope this does come to and end Friday, I still get the very strong feeling that when we do come out of administration Jeff Mostyn will not be the one doing it, didn't he say as long ago as February that if a better deal came in he would step aside, well if ever there looked like that happening the news today is strongly suggesting just that. All very clever stuff, no wonder it's been so quiet for so long.[/quote] I think that jeff saying he would step aside was wishfull thinking hoping that he could attract someone to get him out of the mess he helped to create. Anyway its all academic now I just hope we get out of this mess time is running out and every day is costing a fortune now its not only Krassners fees it this new CE as well . You can see my point cant you if this CE is on salary which Mostyn and Krassner say he is and this other bloke gets it we will have a CE working for the rivals unless they sack him of course . No you are right there is something else going on here looks like a deal has already been struck in my opinion
GMcMahon wrote:
kevvo wrote: GMcMahon wrote: So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
Now perhaps you can see I wasnt so negative about Mostyn. He may be the Saviour of the Club (I doubt it) but even if he is the way he goes about things is terrible. He keeps losing partners he gets preffered status without making a bid and now it still looks like he is going to pull the plug. Your last paragraph just about sums it up . Beware of People with false promises. Mostyn doesnt have the money for any long term commitment to take this Club forward and this Pither bloke seems to have the aces by getting the land . This is really twisting and turning by the day and I honestly think that if Mostyn doesnt give Krassner money on Friday he will show that he is walking which he said he would never do. I may be talking a lot of rot but I cant get my head round all this deciept and hype WHY CANT THE ECHO SUB THE REPORTING OUT TO PROPER JOURNOS
And now you can see I was not joking when I said there were deals being done and other investors were about and Mostyn was not the money, so we have all been taken for a ride in my honest opinion, I said we needed to back any deal that saves the club it looks like Jeff was thinking the same thing, he's been lining up these deals and then when they find out what he wants out of it they jump ship, even as recently as last week, no wonder that press conference said nothing and was delayed. I seriously hope this does come to and end Friday, I still get the very strong feeling that when we do come out of administration Jeff Mostyn will not be the one doing it, didn't he say as long ago as February that if a better deal came in he would step aside, well if ever there looked like that happening the news today is strongly suggesting just that. All very clever stuff, no wonder it's been so quiet for so long.
I think that jeff saying he would step aside was wishfull thinking hoping that he could attract someone to get him out of the mess he helped to create. Anyway its all academic now I just hope we get out of this mess time is running out and every day is costing a fortune now its not only Krassners fees it this new CE as well . You can see my point cant you if this CE is on salary which Mostyn and Krassner say he is and this other bloke gets it we will have a CE working for the rivals unless they sack him of course . No you are right there is something else going on here looks like a deal has already been struck in my opinion
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 12:16pm Wed 2 Jul 08
[quote][bold]brock_and_roll[/bold] wrote:
Looks to me that Pither has pulled a fast one here by doing a deal direct with Krasner to buy the land. The wording on Pither's statement gives the impression that this is a done deal and is going ahead. Without the land, I would have throught that the chances of Mostyn being able to find more funders is just about nil. Therefore, although Mostyn's bid is currently higher, it looks likely that he will not be able to meet the deadline to secure the funding. Pither will therefore pay £X for the land and £1 for the club (which is all its worth without the land). Mostyn will then have to get in a queue with all the other creditors for his share of the total whatever that is. Not looking good to be honest - if the league had the balls they would chuck us out the league for these kind of schenanigans.[/quote] It didnt make sense to me that someone would come in with a lower offer than Mostyn until I read your post . Now it makes perfect sense I wonder what the next twist will be.
brock_and_roll wrote:
Looks to me that Pither has pulled a fast one here by doing a deal direct with Krasner to buy the land. The wording on Pither's statement gives the impression that this is a done deal and is going ahead. Without the land, I would have throught that the chances of Mostyn being able to find more funders is just about nil. Therefore, although Mostyn's bid is currently higher, it looks likely that he will not be able to meet the deadline to secure the funding. Pither will therefore pay £X for the land and £1 for the club (which is all its worth without the land). Mostyn will then have to get in a queue with all the other creditors for his share of the total whatever that is. Not looking good to be honest - if the league had the balls they would chuck us out the league for these kind of schenanigans.
It didnt make sense to me that someone would come in with a lower offer than Mostyn until I read your post . Now it makes perfect sense I wonder what the next twist will be.
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 12:20pm Wed 2 Jul 08
[quote][bold]kevvo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]kevvo[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote: So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.[/quote] Now perhaps you can see I wasnt so negative about Mostyn. He may be the Saviour of the Club (I doubt it) but even if he is the way he goes about things is terrible. He keeps losing partners he gets preffered status without making a bid and now it still looks like he is going to pull the plug. Your last paragraph just about sums it up . Beware of People with false promises. Mostyn doesnt have the money for any long term commitment to take this Club forward and this Pither bloke seems to have the aces by getting the land . This is really twisting and turning by the day and I honestly think that if Mostyn doesnt give Krassner money on Friday he will show that he is walking which he said he would never do. I may be talking a lot of rot but I cant get my head round all this deciept and hype WHY CANT THE ECHO SUB THE REPORTING OUT TO PROPER JOURNOS [/quote] And now you can see I was not joking when I said there were deals being done and other investors were about and Mostyn was not the money, so we have all been taken for a ride in my honest opinion, I said we needed to back any deal that saves the club it looks like Jeff was thinking the same thing, he's been lining up these deals and then when they find out what he wants out of it they jump ship, even as recently as last week, no wonder that press conference said nothing and was delayed. I seriously hope this does come to and end Friday, I still get the very strong feeling that when we do come out of administration Jeff Mostyn will not be the one doing it, didn't he say as long ago as February that if a better deal came in he would step aside, well if ever there looked like that happening the news today is strongly suggesting just that. All very clever stuff, no wonder it's been so quiet for so long.[/quote] I think that jeff saying he would step aside was wishfull thinking hoping that he could attract someone to get him out of the mess he helped to create. Anyway its all academic now I just hope we get out of this mess time is running out and every day is costing a fortune now its not only Krassners fees it this new CE as well . You can see my point cant you if this CE is on salary which Mostyn and Krassner say he is and this other bloke gets it we will have a CE working for the rivals unless they sack him of course . No you are right there is something else going on here looks like a deal has already been struck in my opinion[/quote] But not sure who is dealing with who !!!!!
kevvo wrote:
GMcMahon wrote: kevvo wrote: GMcMahon wrote: So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
Now perhaps you can see I wasnt so negative about Mostyn. He may be the Saviour of the Club (I doubt it) but even if he is the way he goes about things is terrible. He keeps losing partners he gets preffered status without making a bid and now it still looks like he is going to pull the plug. Your last paragraph just about sums it up . Beware of People with false promises. Mostyn doesnt have the money for any long term commitment to take this Club forward and this Pither bloke seems to have the aces by getting the land . This is really twisting and turning by the day and I honestly think that if Mostyn doesnt give Krassner money on Friday he will show that he is walking which he said he would never do. I may be talking a lot of rot but I cant get my head round all this deciept and hype WHY CANT THE ECHO SUB THE REPORTING OUT TO PROPER JOURNOS
And now you can see I was not joking when I said there were deals being done and other investors were about and Mostyn was not the money, so we have all been taken for a ride in my honest opinion, I said we needed to back any deal that saves the club it looks like Jeff was thinking the same thing, he's been lining up these deals and then when they find out what he wants out of it they jump ship, even as recently as last week, no wonder that press conference said nothing and was delayed. I seriously hope this does come to and end Friday, I still get the very strong feeling that when we do come out of administration Jeff Mostyn will not be the one doing it, didn't he say as long ago as February that if a better deal came in he would step aside, well if ever there looked like that happening the news today is strongly suggesting just that. All very clever stuff, no wonder it's been so quiet for so long.
I think that jeff saying he would step aside was wishfull thinking hoping that he could attract someone to get him out of the mess he helped to create. Anyway its all academic now I just hope we get out of this mess time is running out and every day is costing a fortune now its not only Krassners fees it this new CE as well . You can see my point cant you if this CE is on salary which Mostyn and Krassner say he is and this other bloke gets it we will have a CE working for the rivals unless they sack him of course . No you are right there is something else going on here looks like a deal has already been struck in my opinion
But not sure who is dealing with who !!!!!
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 12:24pm Wed 2 Jul 08
One interesting point We were led to believe that the funding for wages ect was coming out of Mostyns pocket and not wishing to bloke his path to Sainthood now we find that Pither has put money in as well How strange
One interesting point We were led to believe that the funding for wages ect was coming out of Mostyns pocket and not wishing to bloke his path to Sainthood now we find that Pither has put money in as well How strange
Posted by: dunk, Bournemouth on 12:35pm Wed 2 Jul 08
What a mess...surely none of the bidders we've had expected to make any profit and the main reason they want to take over is for the love of the club / ego trip. If they all worked together we'd have a much better hope going forward because all these nearly men give me the strong impression they are in over their heads....
What a mess...surely none of the bidders we've had expected to make any profit and the main reason they want to take over is for the love of the club / ego trip. If they all worked together we'd have a much better hope going forward because all these nearly men give me the strong impression they are in over their heads....
Posted by: smhinto, Lincoln on 12:45pm Wed 2 Jul 08
I am still concerned that any deal for AFCB is merely, or appears to be, JUST to bail the club out enabling it JUST to survive!!. (i.e. 1 million appears to be the muted figure for AFCB).
I have stated this before about what sort of sum is maybe, or alledgedly required to take this club FORWARD i.e. the 6 million invested by the Doncaster chairman enabling them the achieve three promotions in five years to get into the Championship.
It appears to me that the powers that be around AFCB are just content with the club to just flounder around in League 'diddly' Two with the odd flirtation with League One here and there and the Championship being a mere fantasy.
Furthermore, are there any plans to buy back the stadium in Mostyn's bid ??? or are there plans to buy back the club shop that was sold off ??? or indeed the catering facilities that were alledgedly sold off too ??.
Looking at the wider picture, it just riles and baffles me as to WHY with the Bournemouth and Poole area being one of the most affluent parts of the country we are and always been, struggling to find investors to take the club forward. Yet small mining town clubs such as the likes of Doncaster and one or two others over the years there were people queing up to to rescue them etc.
Perhaps it's typical southern 'pompousness' and 'snobbery' with the attitude that there are more things or important things to do in Bournemouth than go to a football match. I have a feeling that the town Council and their 'blue rinse following' would love the club to go under just to get rid of us!!!
Apparently, if the club did go under does anybody relaise that Bounemouth would be the largest town in the country without Football League representation - frightening!!.
It just goes to show just how far this club has been allowed to fall....
Regards
I am still concerned that any deal for AFCB is merely, or appears to be, JUST to bail the club out enabling it JUST to survive!!. (i.e. 1 million appears to be the muted figure for AFCB).
I have stated this before about what sort of sum is maybe, or alledgedly required to take this club FORWARD i.e. the 6 million invested by the Doncaster chairman enabling them the achieve three promotions in five years to get into the Championship.
It appears to me that the powers that be around AFCB are just content with the club to just flounder around in League 'diddly' Two with the odd flirtation with League One here and there and the Championship being a mere fantasy.
Furthermore, are there any plans to buy back the stadium in Mostyn's bid ??? or are there plans to buy back the club shop that was sold off ??? or indeed the catering facilities that were alledgedly sold off too ??.
Looking at the wider picture, it just riles and baffles me as to WHY with the Bournemouth and Poole area being one of the most affluent parts of the country we are and always been, struggling to find investors to take the club forward. Yet small mining town clubs such as the likes of Doncaster and one or two others over the years there were people queing up to to rescue them etc.
Perhaps it's typical southern 'pompousness' and 'snobbery' with the attitude that there are more things or important things to do in Bournemouth than go to a football match. I have a feeling that the town Council and their 'blue rinse following' would love the club to go under just to get rid of us!!!
Apparently, if the club did go under does anybody relaise that Bounemouth would be the largest town in the country without Football League representation - frightening!!.
It just goes to show just how far this club has been allowed to fall....
Regards
Posted by: lferrone, Boscombe East on 12:55pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Hey guys! Look at this from a positive side the man could be a CHERRY GROWER! Seriously though. Could someone wake me up from this nightmare and tell me that it wall be alright in that first Saturday in August.
Hey guys! Look at this from a positive side the man could be a CHERRY GROWER! Seriously though. Could someone wake me up from this nightmare and tell me that it wall be alright in that first Saturday in August.
Posted by: lferrone, Boscombe East on 12:57pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Whoops should have checked the spelling first!!!
Hey guys! Look at this from a positive side the man could be a CHERRY GROWER! Seriously though. Could someone wake me up from this nightmare and tell me that it will be all right in that first Saturday in August.
Whoops should have checked the spelling first!!!
Hey guys! Look at this from a positive side the man could be a CHERRY GROWER! Seriously though. Could someone wake me up from this nightmare and tell me that it will be all right in that first Saturday in August.
Posted by: Thomas Griffiths., 12 Wiltshire Gardens, Bransgore, Christchurch, Dorset. BH23 8BJ on 1:00pm Wed 2 Jul 08
As a "Cherries" supporter since 1962 & one of the £100 shareholders it is easy to understand the effect all this turmmoil is having on the "Genuine" supporter of AFCB.
I am 86 years old & due to the attentions of Arthur Ritus am now unable to attend matches, but have been very impressed with most of the very worthy comments posted on this website. I do wonder if Mr. Mostyn or Mr. Krasner take time to read them.All we need is fair & honest facts,good or bad. We value our football club very highly & need to know urgently, whether or not, we are to lose this very important part of our lives.It is not only about the football aspect but also the friendship that is created among supporters, a social meeting place on match days, which we all look forward to. To sum up I think the supporters of AFCB have been let down by the lack of positive information relating to this long and still ongoing Saga. Why all the secrecy? Our interest is genuine. It is our Club!!!!.
As a "Cherries" supporter since 1962 & one of the £100 shareholders it is easy to understand the effect all this turmmoil is having on the "Genuine" supporter of AFCB.
I am 86 years old & due to the attentions of Arthur Ritus am now unable to attend matches, but have been very impressed with most of the very worthy comments posted on this website. I do wonder if Mr. Mostyn or Mr. Krasner take time to read them.All we need is fair & honest facts,good or bad. We value our football club very highly & need to know urgently, whether or not, we are to lose this very important part of our lives.It is not only about the football aspect but also the friendship that is created among supporters, a social meeting place on match days, which we all look forward to. To sum up I think the supporters of AFCB have been let down by the lack of positive information relating to this long and still ongoing Saga. Why all the secrecy? Our interest is genuine. It is our Club!!!!.
Posted by: lferrone, Boscombe East on 1:14pm Wed 2 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Thomas Griffiths.[/bold] wrote:
As a "Cherries" supporter since 1962 & one of the £100 shareholders it is easy to understand the effect all this turmmoil is having on the "Genuine" supporter of AFCB. I am 86 years old & due to the attentions of Arthur Ritus am now unable to attend matches, but have been very impressed with most of the very worthy comments posted on this website. I do wonder if Mr. Mostyn or Mr. Krasner take time to read them.All we need is fair & honest facts,good or bad. We value our football club very highly & need to know urgently, whether or not, we are to lose this very important part of our lives.It is not only about the football aspect but also the friendship that is created among supporters, a social meeting place on match days, which we all look forward to. To sum up I think the supporters of AFCB have been let down by the lack of positive information relating to this long and still ongoing Saga. Why all the secrecy? Our interest is genuine. It is our Club!!!!. [/quote] First of all may I congratulate you on your wonderful age and say that we all hope that Arthur will leave you alone sufficiently for you to be able to come and watch football again (if I can be of help I will be happy to fetch you and take you home on match days). I wholeheartedly agree with you about honesty and truth it is about time we were given more facts instead of having to guess about the wheeling and dealing which is going on at the moment.
Thomas Griffiths. wrote:
As a "Cherries" supporter since 1962 & one of the £100 shareholders it is easy to understand the effect all this turmmoil is having on the "Genuine" supporter of AFCB. I am 86 years old & due to the attentions of Arthur Ritus am now unable to attend matches, but have been very impressed with most of the very worthy comments posted on this website. I do wonder if Mr. Mostyn or Mr. Krasner take time to read them.All we need is fair & honest facts,good or bad. We value our football club very highly & need to know urgently, whether or not, we are to lose this very important part of our lives.It is not only about the football aspect but also the friendship that is created among supporters, a social meeting place on match days, which we all look forward to. To sum up I think the supporters of AFCB have been let down by the lack of positive information relating to this long and still ongoing Saga. Why all the secrecy? Our interest is genuine. It is our Club!!!!.
First of all may I congratulate you on your wonderful age and say that we all hope that Arthur will leave you alone sufficiently for you to be able to come and watch football again (if I can be of help I will be happy to fetch you and take you home on match days). I wholeheartedly agree with you about honesty and truth it is about time we were given more facts instead of having to guess about the wheeling and dealing which is going on at the moment.
Posted by: Thomas Griffiths., 12 Wiltshire Gardens, Bransgore, Christchurch, Dorset. BH23 8BJ on 1:31pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Sorry about the typing error "Turmoil" put it down to age!!
Sorry about the typing error "Turmoil" put it down to age!!
Posted by: Simon, London on 1:39pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Don't worry Thomas - I salute you. I know that we sometimes slag off the 'blue rinse' brigade for not wanting the club to thrive - but these are usually people who have moved into the area. There are many senior citizens who have watched AFCB over the years and I know my grandmother would turn in her grave if she knew the club was in so much trouble. The ever present 'non support' from local businessmen and the council is a running theme, will it ever change? It might when one of us lot wins the Euromillions draw!! Best of luck with Arthur - hope you can get to a game soon. Good shout Iferrone too.
Don't worry Thomas - I salute you. I know that we sometimes slag off the 'blue rinse' brigade for not wanting the club to thrive - but these are usually people who have moved into the area. There are many senior citizens who have watched AFCB over the years and I know my grandmother would turn in her grave if she knew the club was in so much trouble. The ever present 'non support' from local businessmen and the council is a running theme, will it ever change? It might when one of us lot wins the Euromillions draw!! Best of luck with Arthur - hope you can get to a game soon. Good shout Iferrone too.
Posted by: Thomas Griffiths., 12 Wiltshire Gardens, Bransgore, Christchurch, Dorset. BH23 8BJ on 1:50pm Wed 2 Jul 08
My grateful thanks to Iforone but I find difficulty in coping with steps and getting up and down from a sitting position.Just proves my point about football friendship!!!
My grateful thanks to Iforone but I find difficulty in coping with steps and getting up and down from a sitting position.Just proves my point about football friendship!!!
Posted by: lferrone, Boscombe East on 2:04pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Thomas it would be my pleasure to help. I took a disabled lad to all the home games for 13 years before he sadly died. He used a wheelchair the club has facilities for anyone in wheelchairs so you would not have to climb stairs so don’t let that put you off from coming. Maybe I will find a way of given you my contact phone number without posting it here on this site. Maybe if he Echo is reading this they might put us in touch with one and other. Please don’t let the steps/stairs hold you back.
Thomas it would be my pleasure to help. I took a disabled lad to all the home games for 13 years before he sadly died. He used a wheelchair the club has facilities for anyone in wheelchairs so you would not have to climb stairs so don’t let that put you off from coming. Maybe I will find a way of given you my contact phone number without posting it here on this site. Maybe if he Echo is reading this they might put us in touch with one and other. Please don’t let the steps/stairs hold you back.
Posted by: Throopmill, Mt Everest on 2:08pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Mostyn must have bad breath , he seems to drive away partners very quickly?
I wonder if it is his remarkable communication skills that are coming to the fore?
Mostyn is not good for the club!
Mostyn must have bad breath , he seems to drive away partners very quickly?
I wonder if it is his remarkable communication skills that are coming to the fore?
Mostyn is not good for the club!
Posted by: kenno, Sidmouth on 2:10pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Thomas, do you have a large back garden? It may solve two problems in one if our market gardener from Canterbury gets in and allows Hugh Fearnley-Whatshisnam
e to fill our stadium with free range chickens.
Did I hear someone yell FOUL?
Thomas, do you have a large back garden? It may solve two problems in one if our market gardener from Canterbury gets in and allows Hugh Fearnley-Whatshisnam
e to fill our stadium with free range chickens.
Did I hear someone yell FOUL?
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 2:18pm Wed 2 Jul 08
[quote][bold]lferrone[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Thomas Griffiths.[/bold] wrote: As a "Cherries" supporter since 1962 & one of the £100 shareholders it is easy to understand the effect all this turmmoil is having on the "Genuine" supporter of AFCB. I am 86 years old & due to the attentions of Arthur Ritus am now unable to attend matches, but have been very impressed with most of the very worthy comments posted on this website. I do wonder if Mr. Mostyn or Mr. Krasner take time to read them.All we need is fair & honest facts,good or bad. We value our football club very highly & need to know urgently, whether or not, we are to lose this very important part of our lives.It is not only about the football aspect but also the friendship that is created among supporters, a social meeting place on match days, which we all look forward to. To sum up I think the supporters of AFCB have been let down by the lack of positive information relating to this long and still ongoing Saga. Why all the secrecy? Our interest is genuine. It is our Club!!!!. [/quote] First of all may I congratulate you on your wonderful age and say that we all hope that Arthur will leave you alone sufficiently for you to be able to come and watch football again (if I can be of help I will be happy to fetch you and take you home on match days). I wholeheartedly agree with you about honesty and truth it is about time we were given more facts instead of having to guess about the wheeling and dealing which is going on at the moment.[/quote] Well said Thomas despite the minor disagreements on here we all want the same thing for the Club a secure future and hopefully a bit of entertainment. If any of the prospective Directors lower themselves to read this give Thomas a free season Ticket and well done Iferrone for the wonderfull gesture and I am sure the rest of us will gladly help as well. Word of warning though Thomas dont tell the AFCB Board you have Arthritis if you get a seat in the stand they may mistke you for Russ Perrett who unlike yourself has done very little for our Club except draw his pay.
Not quite as mobile as you though just a joke no offence intended . Come along we will get you in
lferrone wrote:
Thomas Griffiths. wrote: As a "Cherries" supporter since 1962 & one of the £100 shareholders it is easy to understand the effect all this turmmoil is having on the "Genuine" supporter of AFCB. I am 86 years old & due to the attentions of Arthur Ritus am now unable to attend matches, but have been very impressed with most of the very worthy comments posted on this website. I do wonder if Mr. Mostyn or Mr. Krasner take time to read them.All we need is fair & honest facts,good or bad. We value our football club very highly & need to know urgently, whether or not, we are to lose this very important part of our lives.It is not only about the football aspect but also the friendship that is created among supporters, a social meeting place on match days, which we all look forward to. To sum up I think the supporters of AFCB have been let down by the lack of positive information relating to this long and still ongoing Saga. Why all the secrecy? Our interest is genuine. It is our Club!!!!.
First of all may I congratulate you on your wonderful age and say that we all hope that Arthur will leave you alone sufficiently for you to be able to come and watch football again (if I can be of help I will be happy to fetch you and take you home on match days). I wholeheartedly agree with you about honesty and truth it is about time we were given more facts instead of having to guess about the wheeling and dealing which is going on at the moment.
Well said Thomas despite the minor disagreements on here we all want the same thing for the Club a secure future and hopefully a bit of entertainment. If any of the prospective Directors lower themselves to read this give Thomas a free season Ticket and well done Iferrone for the wonderfull gesture and I am sure the rest of us will gladly help as well. Word of warning though Thomas dont tell the AFCB Board you have Arthritis if you get a seat in the stand they may mistke you for Russ Perrett who unlike yourself has done very little for our Club except draw his pay.
Not quite as mobile as you though just a joke no offence intended . Come along we will get you in
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 2:20pm Wed 2 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Throopmill[/bold] wrote:
Mostyn must have bad breath , he seems to drive away partners very quickly? I wonder if it is his remarkable communication skills that are coming to the fore? Mostyn is not good for the club![/quote] He used to talk to himself but he walked away from himself in disgust and was unavailable for comment
Throopmill wrote:
Mostyn must have bad breath , he seems to drive away partners very quickly? I wonder if it is his remarkable communication skills that are coming to the fore? Mostyn is not good for the club!
He used to talk to himself but he walked away from himself in disgust and was unavailable for comment
Posted by: QUEUE, EVERYWHERE on 2:29pm Wed 2 Jul 08
[bold]GMcMahon[/bold] has so much egg on his face he could feed the whole of Bournemouth!
Does he really know anything about business and football?
Just watch [bold][bold]Andy_roo and GMcMahon[/bold] back off of telling how wonderful their mate Jeff is! These two idiots couldn’t see the wood for the trees, it is so obvious that Mostyn wants out BUT wants his money back - hence he keeps upsetting his many consortium members at the last minute so they back off. He must have had knowledge that Mr Mystery was coming in at the last minute to bail Mostyn out.
GMcMahon has so much egg on his face he could feed the whole of Bournemouth!
Does he really know anything about business and football?
Just watch Andy_roo and GMcMahon back off of telling how wonderful their mate Jeff is! These two idiots couldn’t see the wood for the trees, it is so obvious that Mostyn wants out BUT wants his money back - hence he keeps upsetting his many consortium members at the last minute so they back off. He must have had knowledge that Mr Mystery was coming in at the last minute to bail Mostyn out.
Posted by: peacelover08, South of England on 2:51pm Wed 2 Jul 08
There are some excellent posts on here from real supporters who are genuinely concerned about the future of our club. For months now I have raised many questions over the credibility of Mostyn and Sly, and their actions, When will the supporters wake up to what is happening, the last five months have seen some of the most appalling mis managment of all time, totally driven by self interest. The whole administration process has been influenced by Mostyn, and no one has challenged the situation. Our club is in appalling mess, it is dying before our very eyes and no one is asking what is happening, or why or what the outcomes are going to be, as to supporters we are told nothing, our representives on the ST just seem to support Mostyn, they never ask the searching questions, Has Mostyn and Sly delivered on anything they have promised........NO, there only achievements are to take the club into administration with no exit strategy, and relegation, so much for the bright future they promised!, now the very future of the club is at risk, and no one is challenging the administrator or Mostyn/Sly. This whole episode is disgraceful, and should be fully investigated. As a life long supporter I have never been so disolutioned as I am now, not even the dark days of the late 70s in Div 4 compare with what has happened at our club in the last 12 months.
There are some excellent posts on here from real supporters who are genuinely concerned about the future of our club. For months now I have raised many questions over the credibility of Mostyn and Sly, and their actions, When will the supporters wake up to what is happening, the last five months have seen some of the most appalling mis managment of all time, totally driven by self interest. The whole administration process has been influenced by Mostyn, and no one has challenged the situation. Our club is in appalling mess, it is dying before our very eyes and no one is asking what is happening, or why or what the outcomes are going to be, as to supporters we are told nothing, our representives on the ST just seem to support Mostyn, they never ask the searching questions, Has Mostyn and Sly delivered on anything they have promised........NO, there only achievements are to take the club into administration with no exit strategy, and relegation, so much for the bright future they promised!, now the very future of the club is at risk, and no one is challenging the administrator or Mostyn/Sly. This whole episode is disgraceful, and should be fully investigated. As a life long supporter I have never been so disolutioned as I am now, not even the dark days of the late 70s in Div 4 compare with what has happened at our club in the last 12 months.
Posted by: john coombes, Tiverton on 2:59pm Wed 2 Jul 08
[quote][bold]peacelover08[/bold] wrote:
There are some excellent posts on here from real supporters who are genuinely concerned about the future of our club. For months now I have raised many questions over the credibility of Mostyn and Sly, and their actions, When will the supporters wake up to what is happening, the last five months have seen some of the most appalling mis managment of all time, totally driven by self interest. The whole administration process has been influenced by Mostyn, and no one has challenged the situation. Our club is in appalling mess, it is dying before our very eyes and no one is asking what is happening, or why or what the outcomes are going to be, as to supporters we are told nothing, our representives on the ST just seem to support Mostyn, they never ask the searching questions, Has Mostyn and Sly delivered on anything they have promised........NO, there only achievements are to take the club into administration with no exit strategy, and relegation, so much for the bright future they promised!, now the very future of the club is at risk, and no one is challenging the administrator or Mostyn/Sly. This whole episode is disgraceful, and should be fully investigated. As a life long supporter I have never been so disolutioned as I am now, not even the dark days of the late 70s in Div 4 compare with what has happened at our club in the last 12 months.[/quote] I have to agree with your posting, and they do themselves no favours with this :no comment: stance, they have appointed a chief executive who is now in a position to speak for them,although I cannot for the life of me see what powers he has or what he can achieve in this situation, I agree the 70s were difficult times but never as aimless and without leadership as at these times
peacelover08 wrote:
There are some excellent posts on here from real supporters who are genuinely concerned about the future of our club. For months now I have raised many questions over the credibility of Mostyn and Sly, and their actions, When will the supporters wake up to what is happening, the last five months have seen some of the most appalling mis managment of all time, totally driven by self interest. The whole administration process has been influenced by Mostyn, and no one has challenged the situation. Our club is in appalling mess, it is dying before our very eyes and no one is asking what is happening, or why or what the outcomes are going to be, as to supporters we are told nothing, our representives on the ST just seem to support Mostyn, they never ask the searching questions, Has Mostyn and Sly delivered on anything they have promised........NO, there only achievements are to take the club into administration with no exit strategy, and relegation, so much for the bright future they promised!, now the very future of the club is at risk, and no one is challenging the administrator or Mostyn/Sly. This whole episode is disgraceful, and should be fully investigated. As a life long supporter I have never been so disolutioned as I am now, not even the dark days of the late 70s in Div 4 compare with what has happened at our club in the last 12 months.
I have to agree with your posting, and they do themselves no favours with this :no comment: stance, they have appointed a chief executive who is now in a position to speak for them,although I cannot for the life of me see what powers he has or what he can achieve in this situation, I agree the 70s were difficult times but never as aimless and without leadership as at these times
Posted by: hba1, Southampton on 3:20pm Wed 2 Jul 08
The biggest problem is that Krasner calls the shots. I have never trusted his cosy cosy relationship with Jeff when is a share a loan or not.
The biggest problem is that Krasner calls the shots. I have never trusted his cosy cosy relationship with Jeff when is a share a loan or not.
Posted by: Thomas Griffiths., 12 Wiltshire Gardens, Bransgore, Christchurch, Dorset. BH23 8BJ on 4:15pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Further to my recent comments on the AFCB saga I am sorry to have given the impression that I am seriously disabled by my mentioning Arthur Ritus. The response of "Iforone" was a wonderful gesture but I am still able to drive and apart from walking over 50 yards I can cope.I have had my share of enjoyment at AFCB
matches over the years and would like to think that such a pleasure is available for the younger people.For myself I say "Three cheers for Radio Solent"
Further to my recent comments on the AFCB saga I am sorry to have given the impression that I am seriously disabled by my mentioning Arthur Ritus. The response of "Iforone" was a wonderful gesture but I am still able to drive and apart from walking over 50 yards I can cope.I have had my share of enjoyment at AFCB
matches over the years and would like to think that such a pleasure is available for the younger people.For myself I say "Three cheers for Radio Solent"
Posted by: GMcMahon, Highcliffe on 4:57pm Wed 2 Jul 08
[quote][bold]QUEUE[/bold] wrote:
[bold]GMcMahon[/bold] has so much egg on his face he could feed the whole of Bournemouth!
Does he really know anything about business and football?
Just watch [bold][bold]Andy_roo and GMcMahon[/bold] back off of telling how wonderful their mate Jeff is! These two idiots couldn’t see the wood for the trees, it is so obvious that Mostyn wants out BUT wants his money back - hence he keeps upsetting his many consortium members at the last minute so they back off. He must have had knowledge that Mr Mystery was coming in at the last minute to bail Mostyn out.
[/quote] How many more times I do not support Mostyn, I see you have changed your name again though, and I like egg so no problem their, even those I have argued with all know I do not support Jeff, I have only ever said I support a deal that saves the club and if that is Jeff then so be it, stop trying to put words into my mouth and stop trying to stir up an argument that just is not valid.
QUEUE wrote:
GMcMahon has so much egg on his face he could feed the whole of Bournemouth!
Does he really know anything about business and football?
Just watch Andy_roo and GMcMahon back off of telling how wonderful their mate Jeff is! These two idiots couldn’t see the wood for the trees, it is so obvious that Mostyn wants out BUT wants his money back - hence he keeps upsetting his many consortium members at the last minute so they back off. He must have had knowledge that Mr Mystery was coming in at the last minute to bail Mostyn out.
How many more times I do not support Mostyn, I see you have changed your name again though, and I like egg so no problem their, even those I have argued with all know I do not support Jeff, I have only ever said I support a deal that saves the club and if that is Jeff then so be it, stop trying to put words into my mouth and stop trying to stir up an argument that just is not valid.
Posted by: Wolfstan, Bournemouth on 5:27pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Sorry guys, I don't think the club stands a chance. I personally believe all the potential bidders are in it line their own pockets, with no interest in the club. I mean does this sort of thing go on when you buy a car or a house? The club is valued at "x" of millions, a buyer comes along and pays the administrator the money, job done. At the moment all the bids have the "money" on paper, which means they have bugger all, they are relying on a group of others to lend them the barest amount to get by. They will then run up more debts, writing them off against the club and then develope the land. It's the oldest con under the sun. I would also suggest that the regulatory department in charge of administrators takes a close look as well. Too many eye patches and parrots around here for my liking.
Sorry guys, I don't think the club stands a chance. I personally believe all the potential bidders are in it line their own pockets, with no interest in the club. I mean does this sort of thing go on when you buy a car or a house? The club is valued at "x" of millions, a buyer comes along and pays the administrator the money, job done. At the moment all the bids have the "money" on paper, which means they have bugger all, they are relying on a group of others to lend them the barest amount to get by. They will then run up more debts, writing them off against the club and then develope the land. It's the oldest con under the sun. I would also suggest that the regulatory department in charge of administrators takes a close look as well. Too many eye patches and parrots around here for my liking.
Posted by: Throopmill, Mt Everest on 6:00pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Mostyn out !
Posted by: peacelover08, South of England on 6:03pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Good post wolfstan, my own view is that the FA or FL should launch a full and very thorough investigation of what has gone at this club throughout this period of administration, and the period prior to administration. I am told that the FA and FL have stringent regulatory requirements, I just hope those running the club are not in breach of them. I believe the club is more at risk today than ever before, and I just wish someone would start asking the difficult questions, and find out what really has gone on
Good post wolfstan, my own view is that the FA or FL should launch a full and very thorough investigation of what has gone at this club throughout this period of administration, and the period prior to administration. I am told that the FA and FL have stringent regulatory requirements, I just hope those running the club are not in breach of them. I believe the club is more at risk today than ever before, and I just wish someone would start asking the difficult questions, and find out what really has gone on
Posted by: john coombes, Tiverton on 6:47pm Wed 2 Jul 08
could anyone please telly me who the three gentlemen connected with the new bid are, and what previous connection they have with the club if any, I personally have never heard their names before
could anyone please telly me who the three gentlemen connected with the new bid are, and what previous connection they have with the club if any, I personally have never heard their names before
Posted by: frankfidler, florida usa on 6:50pm Wed 2 Jul 08
as concerned afc fans we do not have enough information what is going on behind the scenes. as caring fans our football club plays a very significant part in our lives.personally the first thing when i turn on when i wake up in the morning is not my wife but my pc to read the sports pages of the echo. i just hope and prey that comes the new season we will have a viable football club to support. welcolme aboard mr pither. please save our club take it forward so that all us fans will have something to shout about. come on you cherries!
as concerned afc fans we do not have enough information what is going on behind the scenes. as caring fans our football club plays a very significant part in our lives.personally the first thing when i turn on when i wake up in the morning is not my wife but my pc to read the sports pages of the echo. i just hope and prey that comes the new season we will have a viable football club to support. welcolme aboard mr pither. please save our club take it forward so that all us fans will have something to shout about. come on you cherries!
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 6:55pm Wed 2 Jul 08
[quote][bold]peacelover08[/bold] wrote:
There are some excellent posts on here from real supporters who are genuinely concerned about the future of our club. For months now I have raised many questions over the credibility of Mostyn and Sly, and their actions, When will the supporters wake up to what is happening, the last five months have seen some of the most appalling mis managment of all time, totally driven by self interest. The whole administration process has been influenced by Mostyn, and no one has challenged the situation. Our club is in appalling mess, it is dying before our very eyes and no one is asking what is happening, or why or what the outcomes are going to be, as to supporters we are told nothing, our representives on the ST just seem to support Mostyn, they never ask the searching questions, Has Mostyn and Sly delivered on anything they have promised........NO, there only achievements are to take the club into administration with no exit strategy, and relegation, so much for the bright future they promised!, now the very future of the club is at risk, and no one is challenging the administrator or Mostyn/Sly. This whole episode is disgraceful, and should be fully investigated. As a life long supporter I have never been so disolutioned as I am now, not even the dark days of the late 70s in Div 4 compare with what has happened at our club in the last 12 months.[/quote] Good Post Peacelover08 I know I am going to get slated for this but in my opinion I never trusted Mostyn I tried to give him a chance got slated for that as well but saw through this nonsense This Man has done nothing but destroy He has only invested to stop others getting hold of the Club for reasons best known to himself . I am convinced that this Man has not been, is not and never will be a friend of this Football Club. I just hope that if we survive and its still a big if that the FA investigate the way this whole episode has been conducted and do what they can to prevent it happening to any other Clubs
peacelover08 wrote:
There are some excellent posts on here from real supporters who are genuinely concerned about the future of our club. For months now I have raised many questions over the credibility of Mostyn and Sly, and their actions, When will the supporters wake up to what is happening, the last five months have seen some of the most appalling mis managment of all time, totally driven by self interest. The whole administration process has been influenced by Mostyn, and no one has challenged the situation. Our club is in appalling mess, it is dying before our very eyes and no one is asking what is happening, or why or what the outcomes are going to be, as to supporters we are told nothing, our representives on the ST just seem to support Mostyn, they never ask the searching questions, Has Mostyn and Sly delivered on anything they have promised........NO, there only achievements are to take the club into administration with no exit strategy, and relegation, so much for the bright future they promised!, now the very future of the club is at risk, and no one is challenging the administrator or Mostyn/Sly. This whole episode is disgraceful, and should be fully investigated. As a life long supporter I have never been so disolutioned as I am now, not even the dark days of the late 70s in Div 4 compare with what has happened at our club in the last 12 months.
Good Post Peacelover08 I know I am going to get slated for this but in my opinion I never trusted Mostyn I tried to give him a chance got slated for that as well but saw through this nonsense This Man has done nothing but destroy He has only invested to stop others getting hold of the Club for reasons best known to himself . I am convinced that this Man has not been, is not and never will be a friend of this Football Club. I just hope that if we survive and its still a big if that the FA investigate the way this whole episode has been conducted and do what they can to prevent it happening to any other Clubs
Posted by: frankfidler, florida usa on 6:57pm Wed 2 Jul 08
[quote][bold]GMcMahon[/bold] wrote:
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know abou
