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JEFF Mostyn has this afternoon confirmed that there will be no Cherries press conference tomorrow.
The Cherries chairman's consortium had been expected to reveal their plans for the club, but things have been temporarily put on hold.
"As a result of me being abroad for four days, our timing has been put back," Mostyn told the Daily Echo.
"In order to ensure all the legal work has been completed, we're deferring the press conference until hopefully the end of next week."
4:11pm Wednesday 19th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: Nick71, Poole on 4:30pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Is that because Mostyn needs time to think of a story to explain this away:
All below from Companies House
Description: CHARGE
Person(s) Entitled:
JEFFREY ANTHONY MOSTYN
Amount Secured:
£110,000.00 DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY TO
Acquisition Date:
Created: 30/11/2007 Form Type: 395 Registered: 06/12/2007
Short Particulars:
LAND LYING TO THE NORTH EAST OF KINGS PARK DRIVE, KINGS PARK, BOURNEMOUTH, DORSET T/NO DT289729
Description: DEBENTURE
Person(s) Entitled:
JEFFREY ANTHONY MOSTYN
Amount Secured:
ALL MONIES DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY TO THE CHARGEE ON ANY ACCOUNT WHATSOEVER
Acquisition Date:
Created: 04/01/2008 Form Type: 395 Registered: 04/01/2008
Short Particulars:
ALL ASSETS PROPERTY AND UNDERTAKING AND ALL PROPERTIES, ALL INTERESTS NOT EFFECTIVELY MORTGAGED OR CHARGED, ALL RIGHTS LICENCES GUARANTEES RENTS DEPOSITS CONTRACTS COVENANTS AND WARRANTIES, ALL LICENCES CONSENTS AND AUTHORISATIONS HELD IN CONNECTION WITH THE BUSINESS OR USE OF ANY CHARGE PROPERTY AND ALL RIGHTS IN CONNECTION WITH THEM, ALL GOODWILL AND UNCALLED CAPITAL AND ALL EQUIPMENT
Is that because Mostyn needs time to think of a story to explain this away:
All below from Companies House
Description: CHARGE
Person(s) Entitled:
JEFFREY ANTHONY MOSTYN
Amount Secured:
£110,000.00 DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY TO
Acquisition Date:
Created: 30/11/2007 Form Type: 395 Registered: 06/12/2007
Short Particulars:
LAND LYING TO THE NORTH EAST OF KINGS PARK DRIVE, KINGS PARK, BOURNEMOUTH, DORSET T/NO DT289729
Description: DEBENTURE
Person(s) Entitled:
JEFFREY ANTHONY MOSTYN
Amount Secured:
ALL MONIES DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY TO THE CHARGEE ON ANY ACCOUNT WHATSOEVER
Acquisition Date:
Created: 04/01/2008 Form Type: 395 Registered: 04/01/2008
Short Particulars:
ALL ASSETS PROPERTY AND UNDERTAKING AND ALL PROPERTIES, ALL INTERESTS NOT EFFECTIVELY MORTGAGED OR CHARGED, ALL RIGHTS LICENCES GUARANTEES RENTS DEPOSITS CONTRACTS COVENANTS AND WARRANTIES, ALL LICENCES CONSENTS AND AUTHORISATIONS HELD IN CONNECTION WITH THE BUSINESS OR USE OF ANY CHARGE PROPERTY AND ALL RIGHTS IN CONNECTION WITH THEM, ALL GOODWILL AND UNCALLED CAPITAL AND ALL EQUIPMENT
Posted by: AndrewVP, Poole on 4:44pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Nick71[/bold] wrote:
Is that because Mostyn needs time to think of a story to explain this away: All below from Companies House Description: CHARGE Person(s) Entitled: JEFFREY ANTHONY MOSTYN Amount Secured: £110,000.00 DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY TO Acquisition Date: Created: 30/11/2007 Form Type: 395 Registered: 06/12/2007 Short Particulars: LAND LYING TO THE NORTH EAST OF KINGS PARK DRIVE, KINGS PARK, BOURNEMOUTH, DORSET T/NO DT289729 Description: DEBENTURE Person(s) Entitled: JEFFREY ANTHONY MOSTYN Amount Secured: ALL MONIES DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY TO THE CHARGEE ON ANY ACCOUNT WHATSOEVER Acquisition Date: Created: 04/01/2008 Form Type: 395 Registered: 04/01/2008 Short Particulars: ALL ASSETS PROPERTY AND UNDERTAKING AND ALL PROPERTIES, ALL INTERESTS NOT EFFECTIVELY MORTGAGED OR CHARGED, ALL RIGHTS LICENCES GUARANTEES RENTS DEPOSITS CONTRACTS COVENANTS AND WARRANTIES, ALL LICENCES CONSENTS AND AUTHORISATIONS HELD IN CONNECTION WITH THE BUSINESS OR USE OF ANY CHARGE PROPERTY AND ALL RIGHTS IN CONNECTION WITH THEM, ALL GOODWILL AND UNCALLED CAPITAL AND ALL EQUIPMENT[/quote] can you explain that in english
Nick71 wrote:
Is that because Mostyn needs time to think of a story to explain this away: All below from Companies House Description: CHARGE Person(s) Entitled: JEFFREY ANTHONY MOSTYN Amount Secured: £110,000.00 DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY TO Acquisition Date: Created: 30/11/2007 Form Type: 395 Registered: 06/12/2007 Short Particulars: LAND LYING TO THE NORTH EAST OF KINGS PARK DRIVE, KINGS PARK, BOURNEMOUTH, DORSET T/NO DT289729 Description: DEBENTURE Person(s) Entitled: JEFFREY ANTHONY MOSTYN Amount Secured: ALL MONIES DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY TO THE CHARGEE ON ANY ACCOUNT WHATSOEVER Acquisition Date: Created: 04/01/2008 Form Type: 395 Registered: 04/01/2008 Short Particulars: ALL ASSETS PROPERTY AND UNDERTAKING AND ALL PROPERTIES, ALL INTERESTS NOT EFFECTIVELY MORTGAGED OR CHARGED, ALL RIGHTS LICENCES GUARANTEES RENTS DEPOSITS CONTRACTS COVENANTS AND WARRANTIES, ALL LICENCES CONSENTS AND AUTHORISATIONS HELD IN CONNECTION WITH THE BUSINESS OR USE OF ANY CHARGE PROPERTY AND ALL RIGHTS IN CONNECTION WITH THEM, ALL GOODWILL AND UNCALLED CAPITAL AND ALL EQUIPMENT
can you explain that in english
Posted by: pauline yeo on 5:02pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Money paid to administrator by any chance?
Money paid to administrator by any chance?
Posted by: clinkers, Alton on 5:23pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Nick71 - which company is this registered against? You have left out the most important piece of information.
Nick71 - which company is this registered against? You have left out the most important piece of information.
Posted by: ross, christchurch on 5:28pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Nick71[/bold] wrote:
Is that because Mostyn needs time to think of a story to explain this away: All below from Companies House Description: CHARGE Person(s) Entitled: JEFFREY ANTHONY MOSTYN Amount Secured: £110,000.00 DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY TO Acquisition Date: Created: 30/11/2007 Form Type: 395 Registered: 06/12/2007 Short Particulars: LAND LYING TO THE NORTH EAST OF KINGS PARK DRIVE, KINGS PARK, BOURNEMOUTH, DORSET T/NO DT289729 Description: DEBENTURE Person(s) Entitled: JEFFREY ANTHONY MOSTYN Amount Secured: ALL MONIES DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY TO THE CHARGEE ON ANY ACCOUNT WHATSOEVER Acquisition Date: Created: 04/01/2008 Form Type: 395 Registered: 04/01/2008 Short Particulars: ALL ASSETS PROPERTY AND UNDERTAKING AND ALL PROPERTIES, ALL INTERESTS NOT EFFECTIVELY MORTGAGED OR CHARGED, ALL RIGHTS LICENCES GUARANTEES RENTS DEPOSITS CONTRACTS COVENANTS AND WARRANTIES, ALL LICENCES CONSENTS AND AUTHORISATIONS HELD IN CONNECTION WITH THE BUSINESS OR USE OF ANY CHARGE PROPERTY AND ALL RIGHTS IN CONNECTION WITH THEM, ALL GOODWILL AND UNCALLED CAPITAL AND ALL EQUIPMENT[/quote] or it could be like he said he has been away for days and has not finished all the legal work. some of you could rewrite the result of the 2nd world war
Nick71 wrote:
Is that because Mostyn needs time to think of a story to explain this away: All below from Companies House Description: CHARGE Person(s) Entitled: JEFFREY ANTHONY MOSTYN Amount Secured: £110,000.00 DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY TO Acquisition Date: Created: 30/11/2007 Form Type: 395 Registered: 06/12/2007 Short Particulars: LAND LYING TO THE NORTH EAST OF KINGS PARK DRIVE, KINGS PARK, BOURNEMOUTH, DORSET T/NO DT289729 Description: DEBENTURE Person(s) Entitled: JEFFREY ANTHONY MOSTYN Amount Secured: ALL MONIES DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY TO THE CHARGEE ON ANY ACCOUNT WHATSOEVER Acquisition Date: Created: 04/01/2008 Form Type: 395 Registered: 04/01/2008 Short Particulars: ALL ASSETS PROPERTY AND UNDERTAKING AND ALL PROPERTIES, ALL INTERESTS NOT EFFECTIVELY MORTGAGED OR CHARGED, ALL RIGHTS LICENCES GUARANTEES RENTS DEPOSITS CONTRACTS COVENANTS AND WARRANTIES, ALL LICENCES CONSENTS AND AUTHORISATIONS HELD IN CONNECTION WITH THE BUSINESS OR USE OF ANY CHARGE PROPERTY AND ALL RIGHTS IN CONNECTION WITH THEM, ALL GOODWILL AND UNCALLED CAPITAL AND ALL EQUIPMENT
or it could be like he said he has been away for days and has not finished all the legal work. some of you could rewrite the result of the 2nd world war
Posted by: Noel, Bournemouth on 6:06pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]ross[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Nick71[/bold] wrote:
Is that because Mostyn needs time to think of a story to explain this away: All below from Companies House Description: CHARGE Person(s) Entitled: JEFFREY ANTHONY MOSTYN Amount Secured: £110,000.00 DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY TO Acquisition Date: Created: 30/11/2007 Form Type: 395 Registered: 06/12/2007 Short Particulars: LAND LYING TO THE NORTH EAST OF KINGS PARK DRIVE, KINGS PARK, BOURNEMOUTH, DORSET T/NO DT289729 Description: DEBENTURE Person(s) Entitled: JEFFREY ANTHONY MOSTYN Amount Secured: ALL MONIES DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY TO THE CHARGEE ON ANY ACCOUNT WHATSOEVER Acquisition Date: Created: 04/01/2008 Form Type: 395 Registered: 04/01/2008 Short Particulars: ALL ASSETS PROPERTY AND UNDERTAKING AND ALL PROPERTIES, ALL INTERESTS NOT EFFECTIVELY MORTGAGED OR CHARGED, ALL RIGHTS LICENCES GUARANTEES RENTS DEPOSITS CONTRACTS COVENANTS AND WARRANTIES, ALL LICENCES CONSENTS AND AUTHORISATIONS HELD IN CONNECTION WITH THE BUSINESS OR USE OF ANY CHARGE PROPERTY AND ALL RIGHTS IN CONNECTION WITH THEM, ALL GOODWILL AND UNCALLED CAPITAL AND ALL EQUIPMENT[/quote] or it could be like he said he has been away for days and has not finished all the legal work. some of you could rewrite the result of the 2nd world war[/quote] Surely he knew about going abroad for 4 days before he floated the idea of the press conference so why wasn;t it built in to his plans?
Is this lack of competent planning a vision of the future?
OK I'm very cynical about the whole business but it sounds like the un-named members of the consortium were somewhat airey-fairy just like the other mooted over the last 12 months.
I wish the mysterious Midlands businessman would show himself as a solid proposition - if he really exists,
ross wrote:
Nick71 wrote:
Is that because Mostyn needs time to think of a story to explain this away: All below from Companies House Description: CHARGE Person(s) Entitled: JEFFREY ANTHONY MOSTYN Amount Secured: £110,000.00 DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY TO Acquisition Date: Created: 30/11/2007 Form Type: 395 Registered: 06/12/2007 Short Particulars: LAND LYING TO THE NORTH EAST OF KINGS PARK DRIVE, KINGS PARK, BOURNEMOUTH, DORSET T/NO DT289729 Description: DEBENTURE Person(s) Entitled: JEFFREY ANTHONY MOSTYN Amount Secured: ALL MONIES DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY TO THE CHARGEE ON ANY ACCOUNT WHATSOEVER Acquisition Date: Created: 04/01/2008 Form Type: 395 Registered: 04/01/2008 Short Particulars: ALL ASSETS PROPERTY AND UNDERTAKING AND ALL PROPERTIES, ALL INTERESTS NOT EFFECTIVELY MORTGAGED OR CHARGED, ALL RIGHTS LICENCES GUARANTEES RENTS DEPOSITS CONTRACTS COVENANTS AND WARRANTIES, ALL LICENCES CONSENTS AND AUTHORISATIONS HELD IN CONNECTION WITH THE BUSINESS OR USE OF ANY CHARGE PROPERTY AND ALL RIGHTS IN CONNECTION WITH THEM, ALL GOODWILL AND UNCALLED CAPITAL AND ALL EQUIPMENT
or it could be like he said he has been away for days and has not finished all the legal work. some of you could rewrite the result of the 2nd world war
Surely he knew about going abroad for 4 days before he floated the idea of the press conference so why wasn;t it built in to his plans?
Is this lack of competent planning a vision of the future?
OK I'm very cynical about the whole business but it sounds like the un-named members of the consortium were somewhat airey-fairy just like the other mooted over the last 12 months.
I wish the mysterious Midlands businessman would show himself as a solid proposition - if he really exists,
Posted by: Throopmill, Mt Everest on 7:16pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Another smokin mirror trick by our master magician Mostyn!
Another smokin mirror trick by our master magician Mostyn!
Posted by: Liarcherry, jeffs conscience on 7:23pm Wed 19 Mar 08
My God this Man is a piece of work but no doubt some on here will find a way of saying he is wonderfull the only game in town and the saviour of the Club Get him and his lacky mates out now before he really does the Club in
My God this Man is a piece of work but no doubt some on here will find a way of saying he is wonderfull the only game in town and the saviour of the Club Get him and his lacky mates out now before he really does the Club in
Posted by: pooleboy, Poole on 8:49pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Don't get me wrong here, I don't have much faith in Mostyn and never have. But if I was putting £110,000 into a Company that was about to go bust, firstly I'd be bloody stupid but secondly I'd want to minimise my risk as much as possible by having the money secured on something tangible.
Don't get me wrong here, I don't have much faith in Mostyn and never have. But if I was putting £110,000 into a Company that was about to go bust, firstly I'd be bloody stupid but secondly I'd want to minimise my risk as much as possible by having the money secured on something tangible.
Posted by: Bosskom, westbourne on 9:03pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Unfortunately, I think he is or they are the only game in town. Havent seen any Russian Oil Barons or Formula One types heading towards Kings Park recently. If only !! We are just gonna have to put up with it and hope .....
Unfortunately, I think he is or they are the only game in town. Havent seen any Russian Oil Barons or Formula One types heading towards Kings Park recently. If only !! We are just gonna have to put up with it and hope .....
Posted by: MyCherries, Bournemouth on 10:46pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Pooleboy - no problem with him securing the 'extra' £110k that he put in towards the end of last year, presumably over and above the promised £750k (in shares).
But scroll down to the Debenture dated Jan 08. AndrewVP asked what it means - well the first bit relates to what is owed to who: [italic]"ALL MONIES DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY (ie AFCB)TO THE CHARGEE (Mostyn) ON ANY ACCOUNT WHATSOEVER"[/italic] - this says that this charge/debenture covers every penny that is owed to Jeff Mostyn by the club.
Contrary to what Krasner said at the 2nd press conference when challenged on this point it does NOT say that it is only in respect of monies lent to the club from the date of he charge going forward.
The second part relates to what Mostyn has a charge over, ie what assets of the club he has first call over: [italic]"ALL ASSETS PROPERTY AND UNDERTAKING AND ALL PROPERTIES, ALL INTERESTS NOT EFFECTIVELY MORTGAGED OR CHARGED, ALL RIGHTS LICENCES GUARANTEES RENTS DEPOSITS CONTRACTS COVENANTS AND WARRANTIES, ALL LICENCES CONSENTS AND AUTHORISATIONS HELD IN CONNECTION WITH THE BUSINESS OR USE OF ANY CHARGE PROPERTY AND ALL RIGHTS IN CONNECTION WITH THEM, ALL GOODWILL AND UNCALLED CAPITAL AND ALL EQUIPMENT"[/italic] - ie, everything of vaue.
As secured creditors have first call on the assets in administration it is hardly surprising that other potential bidders 'mistakenly' thought they would have to pay Mostyn off in full if they bid successfully.
Pooleboy - no problem with him securing the 'extra' £110k that he put in towards the end of last year, presumably over and above the promised £750k (in shares).
But scroll down to the Debenture dated Jan 08. AndrewVP asked what it means - well the first bit relates to what is owed to who:
"ALL MONIES DUE OR TO BECOME DUE FROM THE COMPANY (ie AFCB)TO THE CHARGEE (Mostyn) ON ANY ACCOUNT WHATSOEVER" - this says that this charge/debenture covers every penny that is owed to Jeff Mostyn by the club.
Contrary to what Krasner said at the 2nd press conference when challenged on this point it does NOT say that it is only in respect of monies lent to the club from the date of he charge going forward.
The second part relates to what Mostyn has a charge over, ie what assets of the club he has first call over:
"ALL ASSETS PROPERTY AND UNDERTAKING AND ALL PROPERTIES, ALL INTERESTS NOT EFFECTIVELY MORTGAGED OR CHARGED, ALL RIGHTS LICENCES GUARANTEES RENTS DEPOSITS CONTRACTS COVENANTS AND WARRANTIES, ALL LICENCES CONSENTS AND AUTHORISATIONS HELD IN CONNECTION WITH THE BUSINESS OR USE OF ANY CHARGE PROPERTY AND ALL RIGHTS IN CONNECTION WITH THEM, ALL GOODWILL AND UNCALLED CAPITAL AND ALL EQUIPMENT" - ie, everything of vaue.
As secured creditors have first call on the assets in administration it is hardly surprising that other potential bidders 'mistakenly' thought they would have to pay Mostyn off in full if they bid successfully.
Posted by: lofty1971, Poole on 10:43am Thu 20 Mar 08
More smokescreens and lies is all that I see and hear from the new 'old' regime.
Bets on for the press conference going ahead next week?
More smokescreens and lies is all that I see and hear from the new 'old' regime.
Bets on for the press conference going ahead next week?
Posted by: FletcherTheCat, The Sexy Beast on 3:00pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Call me stupid, but isn't a debenture by definition unsecured?
Call me stupid, but isn't a debenture by definition unsecured?
Posted by: FletcherTheCat, The Sexy Beast on 3:00pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Call me stupid, but isn't a debenture by definition unsecured?
Call me stupid, but isn't a debenture by definition unsecured?
Posted by: avant-provocateur, LOCAL on 10:00pm Thu 20 Mar 08
When are the Mostyn Mafia going to stop digging?
Everyday they get deeper in the sh1t -
It has to be NO NO NO and get our 'New person in with the help of 'Arry.
When are the Mostyn Mafia going to stop digging?
Everyday they get deeper in the sh1t -
It has to be NO NO NO and get our 'New person in with the help of 'Arry.
Posted by: avant-provocateur, LOCAL on 10:28pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Has anyone requested that the Football League make urgent enquiries into AFCB and the Mostyn Mafia?
Mostyn is a multi-millionare businessman so is he likely to give money away without a secure return with interest?
Has anyone requested that the Football League make urgent enquiries into AFCB and the Mostyn Mafia?
Mostyn is a multi-millionare businessman so is he likely to give money away without a secure return with interest?
Posted by: avant-provocateur, LOCAL on 10:44pm Thu 20 Mar 08
WARNING:-
Gerald Krasner gives season ticket holders a vote at the creditors' meeting. 3,000 supporters are to be able to have their say on the CVA, but is it their vote or their voice that he is really after?
Gerald Krasner told every loyal season ticket holder at AFC Bournemouth that they were creditors. At the date the club went into administration they had already paid for matches until the end of the season and so he has decided that technically they are owed the pro-rated value of their match tickets. He urged them to get to the planned creditors' meeting and to use their votes in favour of the CVA.
With Stanley Cohen and HMRC holding all the cards the value of the season ticket holders' vote is negligible. Krasner stated that the total debt to be voted now exceeded £5,000,000. A rough estimate of 3,000 season ticket holders being owed an average of £40 means that they represent less than 2.4% of the total.
Of course, the season ticket holders are far more numerous than the other creditors. If they can be persuaded that the club's existence depends on a yes vote for Mostyn's consortium and turn out for the creditors' meeting in good numbers then the dynamics of the meeting will change considerably. Rather than facing a room full of angry creditors who are losing money that many of them may not be able to afford to, the package will be presented to a much more supportive audience. The dissenters will be drowned out by the voices of these season ticket holders. Now I'm not suggesting that intransigent creditors will be swayed by this - but it will serve to prevent any dissention from gaining momentum in the room and winning over the undecided.
Whether using these tactics to steamroller Mostyn's bid through is in the best interests of the football club or not remains to be seen.
WARNING:-
Gerald Krasner gives season ticket holders a vote at the creditors' meeting. 3,000 supporters are to be able to have their say on the CVA, but is it their vote or their voice that he is really after?
Gerald Krasner told every loyal season ticket holder at AFC Bournemouth that they were creditors. At the date the club went into administration they had already paid for matches until the end of the season and so he has decided that technically they are owed the pro-rated value of their match tickets. He urged them to get to the planned creditors' meeting and to use their votes in favour of the CVA.
With Stanley Cohen and HMRC holding all the cards the value of the season ticket holders' vote is negligible. Krasner stated that the total debt to be voted now exceeded £5,000,000. A rough estimate of 3,000 season ticket holders being owed an average of £40 means that they represent less than 2.4% of the total.
Of course, the season ticket holders are far more numerous than the other creditors. If they can be persuaded that the club's existence depends on a yes vote for Mostyn's consortium and turn out for the creditors' meeting in good numbers then the dynamics of the meeting will change considerably. Rather than facing a room full of angry creditors who are losing money that many of them may not be able to afford to, the package will be presented to a much more supportive audience. The dissenters will be drowned out by the voices of these season ticket holders. Now I'm not suggesting that intransigent creditors will be swayed by this - but it will serve to prevent any dissention from gaining momentum in the room and winning over the undecided.
Whether using these tactics to steamroller Mostyn's bid through is in the best interests of the football club or not remains to be seen.
Posted by: Nick71, Poole on 12:19am Fri 21 Mar 08
Fletcherthecat, a debenture is SECURED. Mostyn will get ALL his money back, whatever.
Fletcherthecat, a debenture is SECURED. Mostyn will get ALL his money back, whatever.
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 7:59pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Question (a genuine one) If the Players deffered some of the wages they were due to Help the Club out does that mean that they are creditors as well because the Club owes `them money. In which case should they attend as well
Question (a genuine one) If the Players deffered some of the wages they were due to Help the Club out does that mean that they are creditors as well because the Club owes `them money. In which case should they attend as well
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 8:01pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Nick71[/bold] wrote:
Fletcherthecat, a debenture is SECURED. Mostyn will get ALL his money back, whatever.[/quote] So as I said not the selfless Benifactor with our interest at Heart So the statement should have been I will step aside if a better offer comes along as long as they make it worth my while. Priceless
Nick71 wrote:
Fletcherthecat, a debenture is SECURED. Mostyn will get ALL his money back, whatever.
So as I said not the selfless Benifactor with our interest at Heart So the statement should have been I will step aside if a better offer comes along as long as they make it worth my while. Priceless
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