Cherries: Howe ponders Thomas loan situation

DECISIONS: Eddie Howe DECISIONS: Eddie Howe

Cherries boss Eddie Howe has said he will think “long and hard” about the prospect of allowing striker Wes Thomas to remain with Portsmouth.

Thomas dropped down the pecking order under previous boss Paul Groves and was given the green light to join Cherries’ south coast neighbours on a month’s loan.

And since arriving at Fratton Park at the end of last month, the 25-year-old frontman has made a major impact and has netted twice in five appearances.

He has also struck up a fruitful partnership with Izale McLeod, prompting Pompey boss Michael Appleton to indicate he will attempt to extend Thomas’s stay.

Thomas’s impressive form has also brought into question Cherries’ decision to loan him to a League One rival – and a club which has now gone above them in the table.

Howe, who replaced Groves in the Goldsands Stadium hot-seat at the weekend, has already set about the task of assessing the squad he has inherited.

Speaking to the Daily Echo tonight, Howe said: “Wes is someone we have always admired from afar. We are quickly assessing the squad and are well stocked in the striker department.

“But, with someone with Wes’s qualities and attributes, we are going to have to think long and hard about what we do with him before his loan is up.

“We can’t do anything for the first 28 days but, once we are able to recall him, it is certainly something we would think about.”

Thomas, signed permanently by Cherries in January following a three-month loan spell, bagged 11 goals last season and was the club’s leading marksman.

However, after scoring in Groves’s first game in caretaker charge at Stevenage, he failed to find the target in 11 subsequent appearances and was farmed out to Pompey.

Howe and assistant Jason Tindall were at Goldsands Stadium tonight to watch Cherries ease past Winchester City in the Hampshire Senior Cup.

A side comprising first-team pros and development squad youngsters triumphed 6-0 against the Southern League Division One South & West outfit.

Donal McDermott took centre stage by bagging two majestic first-half goals before Clive Makoni and Jordan Chiedozie both netted twice after the break.

Cherries: Jalal, Case, Meades, Bowles, Zubar, Wakefield (Bassele, h-t), McDermott, Carmichael (Cargill, h-t), Makoni (Moth, 80), Chiedozie, Gilkes. Unused subs: Strugnell, Goodship.

  • Bashley exited the Hampshire Senior Cup following a 1-0 defeat by Newport (IOW), while Poole Town won 3-0 against Weymouth in the Southern League Red Insure Cup.

Comments(26)

socoolmichael says...
10:49pm Tue 16 Oct 12

Get him back Eddie, he should never have been sent away in the first place. It was the indecision in the previous managers playing style that made him dry up in front of goal. Given the freedom of the role along the coast has brought back his killer instinct in front of goal and only goes to show that some pretty stupid decisions were being made at the time at AFC..!

RED LETTER DAY says...
2:03am Wed 17 Oct 12

Recall Wes Thomas Eddie, . . He scored some usefull goals for us last year. ........ This season he just went out of tune like the rest of the squad under Mr Groves..

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Frankiesbackfromhollywood says...
9:07am Wed 17 Oct 12

It was a daft decision to send Thomas out on loan in the first place, it's not like anyone has done any better is it? Just another example of the poor manager we had, Tubbs was going to go the week he started scoring, what a mess Howe is having to clean up!! Good to hear Donal played well last night, let's hope Howe can sort his head out, we haven't seen the best of him for two years, so many talented players going knowhere until now!!

jontee says...
9:41am Wed 17 Oct 12

Good management is about getting the best out of players, something Groves knew nothing about.
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Eddie obviously rates Thomas and will know how best to use him. I think the quandary here is Tubbs who, because of Groves unwillingness to use him, we still don't know if he can cut it at this level. Obviously they can't both play in the same line up, and Eddie won't want to rush to bring Thomas back just to sit on the bench.

dustbindanny says...
9:42am Wed 17 Oct 12

bring Thomas back Eddie, this guy is a really pacy player, something the team has been sadly lacking this season . just treat him to a new pair of shooting boots for Christmas !

Square Old Codger says...
10:44am Wed 17 Oct 12

jontee wrote:
Good management is about getting the best out of players, something Groves knew nothing about. . Eddie obviously rates Thomas and will know how best to use him. I think the quandary here is Tubbs who, because of Groves unwillingness to use him, we still don't know if he can cut it at this level. Obviously they can't both play in the same line up, and Eddie won't want to rush to bring Thomas back just to sit on the bench.
One of the problems has been that unless you were in Grove's favoured group , you didn't play and there are a number of players we have seen little or nothing of. Most supporters would play Zubar on a regular basis and I suspect that Eddie and Jason wanted to look at Zubar and McDermott in action and that is why they played last night. Could well see both playing on Saturday. I see Thomas as a goal maker, who also can score and more part of a strike dou than in the lone striker role, with either Tubbs or McQuoid as a partner. They know McQuoid well, he played a number of games for Burnley last Season on the wing.But they have a lot of players to appraise - and I am sure wont rush it.

longtimefanlongwayaway says...
11:34am Wed 17 Oct 12

Bradbury is named Havant & W manager - a good move for them. That suggests Groves must be about the right standard for Poole Town - except Tommy K is doing too well right now.

The Renegade Master says...
12:06pm Wed 17 Oct 12

Wes Tho-miss was absolutely hopeless under Groves & Brooks. Whether it was down to tactics or other reasons who knows, but he couldn't hit the back end of a bus from six yards when they were in charge! However, if anyone can get the best out of Wes it will be Eddie & Jason.

afcbJPR says...
12:25pm Wed 17 Oct 12

Interesting to see Bradders taking the helm at Havant. And also Groves (& Brookes) accepting their old roles back within the club.

Does this all mean the only 'Manager's salary' we now pay is Eddie's?

MJPJC says...
12:35pm Wed 17 Oct 12

afcbJPR wrote:
Interesting to see Bradders taking the helm at Havant. And also Groves (& Brookes) accepting their old roles back within the club.

Does this all mean the only 'Manager's salary' we now pay is Eddie's?
Sorry, must have missed that. What roles have they got under Eddie? I thought they'd both gone (but I have been away)

Noel. says...
12:44pm Wed 17 Oct 12

MJPJC wrote:
afcbJPR wrote:
Interesting to see Bradders taking the helm at Havant. And also Groves (& Brookes) accepting their old roles back within the club.

Does this all mean the only 'Manager's salary' we now pay is Eddie's?
Sorry, must have missed that. What roles have they got under Eddie? I thought they'd both gone (but I have been away)
In my view Brookes and Groves should have gone to clean Eddie and Jason a clean sheet free from interference.

Noel. says...
12:45pm Wed 17 Oct 12

sorry, should have been 'give Eddie & Jason'

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Dear Nonno

I can see you are taking the 'half bliss' out of my predictions post.
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Perhaps I should explain that when I said that it would be a 1-1 draw on Saturday or who ever scores first will win.
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In simple terms if Tranmere take the lead to make in 1-0 then I cannot see us scoring. But tranmere will not score a second.
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Likewise if we take the lead to make in 1-0 then I cannot see Tranmere scoring. But then we will also not score a second.
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i.e it will be 1-0 if any body wins.
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I did say my prediction is open edned but I believe a draw is more likely.
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Hence whoever scores first will win. There has already been some
'air-head' on here (not you) that is who clearly did not understand this hypothosis.
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P.s. Perhaps I should say that I do not mean to insult you. My 'digs' at you were intended as 'tongue in cheek' and born out of frustration as both you and others have in the past suffered from not being able to see the bleeding obvious events that stand in front of your face. i.e the crap appointments of Quinn Bradbury and Bond as just one example amongs many others.

Kind Regards

Afcbpete says...
1:38pm Wed 17 Oct 12

I think Thomas should stay at Pompey for the time being, give Eddie/Jason time to assess all the other forwards, bringing him back only compounds their problems. Players like Tubbs and Sheringham quite simply haven't had a chance. I'm not sure where Sheringham is along the recovery trail...

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I don't know about the rest of you but I am sick and tired of this advertising by the back door. How can it be stopped?
Dear Nonno

I can see you are taking the 'half bliss' out of my predictions post.
.
Perhaps I should explain that when I said that it would be a 1-1 draw on Saturday or who ever scores first will win.
.
In simple terms if Tranmere take the lead to make in 1-0 then I cannot see us scoring. But tranmere will not score a second.
.
Likewise if we take the lead to make in 1-0 then I cannot see Tranmere scoring. But then we will also not score a second.
.
i.e it will be 1-0 if any body wins.
.
I did say my prediction is open edned but I believe a draw is more likely.
.
Hence whoever scores first will win. There has already been some
'air-head' on here (not you) that is who clearly did not understand this hypothosis.
.
P.s. Perhaps I should say that I do not mean to insult you. My 'digs' at you were intended as 'tongue in cheek' and born out of frustration as both you and others have in the past suffered from not being able to see the bleeding obvious events that stand in front of your face. i.e the crap appointments of Quinn Bradbury and Bond as just one example amongs many others.

Kind Regards
I had couple of beers whilst watching England V Poland so that could well explain why I think you are even more confusing than the first time around!!

I am still trying to figure out how can a 1-1 draw become a 0-1 or a 1-0 especially when you say that once one side scores the other team will not be able to score. I must check the strength of my beers!!!

Deejaycee says...
6:53pm Wed 17 Oct 12

nonnogeppetto wrote:
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I don't know about the rest of you but I am sick and tired of this advertising by the back door. How can it be stopped?
Dear Nonno

I can see you are taking the 'half bliss' out of my predictions post.
.
Perhaps I should explain that when I said that it would be a 1-1 draw on Saturday or who ever scores first will win.
.
In simple terms if Tranmere take the lead to make in 1-0 then I cannot see us scoring. But tranmere will not score a second.
.
Likewise if we take the lead to make in 1-0 then I cannot see Tranmere scoring. But then we will also not score a second.
.
i.e it will be 1-0 if any body wins.
.
I did say my prediction is open edned but I believe a draw is more likely.
.
Hence whoever scores first will win. There has already been some
'air-head' on here (not you) that is who clearly did not understand this hypothosis.
.
P.s. Perhaps I should say that I do not mean to insult you. My 'digs' at you were intended as 'tongue in cheek' and born out of frustration as both you and others have in the past suffered from not being able to see the bleeding obvious events that stand in front of your face. i.e the crap appointments of Quinn Bradbury and Bond as just one example amongs many others.

Kind Regards
I had couple of beers whilst watching England V Poland so that could well explain why I think you are even more confusing than the first time around!!

I am still trying to figure out how can a 1-1 draw become a 0-1 or a 1-0 especially when you say that once one side scores the other team will not be able to score. I must check the strength of my beers!!!
Couldn't agree more. How on earth is it going to reach 1-1 if the first side to score will win 1-0.

MB1980 says...
6:55pm Wed 17 Oct 12

Square Old Codger wrote:
jontee wrote:
Good management is about getting the best out of players, something Groves knew nothing about. . Eddie obviously rates Thomas and will know how best to use him. I think the quandary here is Tubbs who, because of Groves unwillingness to use him, we still don't know if he can cut it at this level. Obviously they can't both play in the same line up, and Eddie won't want to rush to bring Thomas back just to sit on the bench.
One of the problems has been that unless you were in Grove's favoured group , you didn't play and there are a number of players we have seen little or nothing of. Most supporters would play Zubar on a regular basis and I suspect that Eddie and Jason wanted to look at Zubar and McDermott in action and that is why they played last night. Could well see both playing on Saturday. I see Thomas as a goal maker, who also can score and more part of a strike dou than in the lone striker role, with either Tubbs or McQuoid as a partner. They know McQuoid well, he played a number of games for Burnley last Season on the wing.But they have a lot of players to appraise - and I am sure wont rush it.
It amazes me that so many fans seem to think Zubar should be in the starting 11. Lets see who Howe's favoured centre back pairing is. I'm pretty confident Zubar won't be starting any more regularly under Howe.

People seem to have short memories with Thomas. Before his loan period most wanted him out of the team as he squandered chance after chance.

Problem is we have a glut of decent forwards for League 1 and it wouldn't surprise me to see Pitman join up before Xmas on loan. Thomas has stated he doesn't want to come back and sit on the bench, which I think is the best he can hope for TBH.Therefore will he disrupt harmony, as he may want to stay at Pompey and play 1st team football.

eaststandman says...
8:11pm Wed 17 Oct 12

Zubar is the most skillful and athletic defender we have. It seems though, in Lge 1, we are obliged to play central defenders who are carthorses or donkeys, who are slow and can only hoof the ball. They don't seem to have the ability to pass the ball.

Thomas may have squandered chances but he was getting into the right positions. He'd do well under EH.

West moors 1 says...
8:18pm Wed 17 Oct 12

Thomas has scored 1 lucky goal that deflected off him and a second goal about 1 yard from the goal mouth. Don't get too carried away, we have some great forwards, Tubbs, McQuoid, Demouge looked promising. Wes, sadly missed so many chances he was dropped by the clueless Groves by demand from the fans!

scottie190 says...
8:22pm Wed 17 Oct 12

I see that our 'friend' smhinto is back on the scene with his cloudy water 'wit' I try my hardest to put my senior citizen knowledge to work out what on earth he is talking about and am afraid I fail badly. Can I suggest smhinto that unless you are a supporter of our team that you confine your comments to the Lincoln gazzette or what ever it is called where I am sure they will understand you. IF you do come to watch AFCB can I suggest you join us in the North Stand and make yourself known to us
Lets hope the Eddie and Jason wow factor works this Saturday utciod

MB1980 says...
8:39pm Wed 17 Oct 12

eaststandman wrote:
Zubar is the most skillful and athletic defender we have. It seems though, in Lge 1, we are obliged to play central defenders who are carthorses or donkeys, who are slow and can only hoof the ball. They don't seem to have the ability to pass the ball.

Thomas may have squandered chances but he was getting into the right positions. He'd do well under EH.
Skillful, hahaha. He's probably the least composed and comfortable on the ball defender in the squad.

eaststandman says...
6:43pm Thu 18 Oct 12

MB1980 wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Zubar is the most skillful and athletic defender we have. It seems though, in Lge 1, we are obliged to play central defenders who are carthorses or donkeys, who are slow and can only hoof the ball. They don't seem to have the ability to pass the ball.

Thomas may have squandered chances but he was getting into the right positions. He'd do well under EH.
Skillful, hahaha. He's probably the least composed and comfortable on the ball defender in the squad.
you obviously haven't seen addison play in the flesh then.

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