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7:00am Tuesday 13th October 2009 in
Cherries chairman Eddie Mitchell is urging supporters to finally draw a line under talk of the club’s ongoing transfer embargo.
Mitchell’s comments follow hot on the heels of the Football League blocking a second emergency loan signing together with vetoing the club’s bid to engage Steve Lovell.
Majority shareholder Mitchell confirmed the club was still at the “highest level possible” of embargo and admitted there was “no clear picture” of when it might be lifted.
Speaking to the Daily Echo, Mitchell added: “As far as myself and the club are concerned, the embargo is on the back-burner. It’s for us, as a club, to sort ourselves out. The more we keep pressurising and prodding the Football League, the harder it is going to get.
“The previous history is complicating the club going forward. If you do the crime, you’ve got to do the time and it’s no good whingeing about it.
“I am 100 per cent behind Eddie (Howe) and Jason (Tindall) and it wasn’t them who committed the crime but they are the ones who are paying for it. It wasn’t this board either and we are all suffering for what went on before. We are the ones who have got to do the time.
“But we can spend the rest of the season whinging about it or we can forget it and try to get on with what we’ve got to do. I know what’s best and, the more we whinge, the more it is going to defeat what we’re trying to do.”
Mitchell also revealed the club had made a £7,000 operating profit last month – possibly for the first time since Norman Hayward’s chairmanship in the early 1990s – and sounded out a defiant message to supporters.
He said: “We are going to grab this club by the throat and wring its neck until we come out the other side. This club won’t fail, it will prosper. We’ve just got to be patient and keep working hard with the resources we’ve got. We will get through it.
“We’ve got to address our circumstances and live within our means. We need to prove to the Football League that we’ve got full control of what’s going on and we don’t expose the club like it’s been exposed in the past.
“This club has already been let off the hook twice in terms of going under. Other clubs struggled and paid their debts, while this one didn’t. We can’t expect them to just wipe clean the slate and say ‘off you go again’.
“Points deductions were nothing compared with what the club tried to get away with over the past few years and we’ve got to take the punishment.
“We are now working within our means. Month by month, we are eating into the debt and while this club is under my stewardship, I intend for it to make a profit every year.”
Cherries’ league clash against Notts County, which was scheduled for Saturday, December 19, will now be played on Monday, December 21 (7.45 pm). The match will be broadcast live on Sky Sports.
Cherries reserves host Bristol City at Dean Court this afternoon (2pm) in the Football Combination.
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upthecherriesafcb
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7:35am Tue 13 Oct 09
nonnogeppetto
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dc addict
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horsted
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Tom Griffiths
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tricky1007
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Cantona4Cherries
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Yorkie Cherry
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nonnogeppetto
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8:23am Tue 13 Oct 09
dc addict wrote:cool it DC!!! we share in you passion but there is nothing that we the supporters can do. If they were a Christian outfit we could use the 'widow and the judge' approach but I doubt if they would budge even then!!!
So, Eddie, this is a punishment then and nothing else. So we all suffer for the things that have gone on, regardless of what is being done now.
You want us to all become tame little lap dogs? Well not me. The FL are guilty of poisonous retribution and malice towards us, the current board, the players, the staff and most importantly the supporters.
They are a disgrace and one day they will go too far. We will then get our chance to (metaphorically of course) kick them when it's their turn to grovel.
Square Old Codger
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8:36am Tue 13 Oct 09
cherrychris31
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Dave11
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cherrychris31
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wookj1
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cherrychris31
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9:09am Tue 13 Oct 09
upthecherriesafcb wrote:Lallana isnt going anywhere for the time being. Saints view is that they will keep him for this season to try to get them up. If they go up it is likely he will stay, if they dont go up then he will be sold.
here is a plan. hopefully saints will sell adam lallana , then we get 25% of it. Then the clubs debts are cleared. simples. anyone know how much sky are going to give us?
cherrychris31
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9:12am Tue 13 Oct 09
Dave11 wrote:Takes the p doesnt it. Mr Defoe, Mr Ferdinand, Mr Redknapp. 2 weeks wages from any of these ex cherries would clear it!!
HMRC is 180K.
wookj1
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9:14am Tue 13 Oct 09
In Ed we trust
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9:17am Tue 13 Oct 09
Ken Omerod
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9:19am Tue 13 Oct 09
Geoff C
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Dave11
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terry1965
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9:34am Tue 13 Oct 09
Dave11
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9:35am Tue 13 Oct 09
cherrychris31
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9:37am Tue 13 Oct 09
Dave11 wrote:Thats all well and good. I think we are now in the safest hands that we have been in for a long long time. EM has always said however that he wont pump loads of his own cash into the club. That was stated on day 1. Why should he? He wanted to get the club back solvent again and the signs are that it is going that way. I keep going on about Steve Lovell and the reason is because he would be no cost to the club. Whereas Ryan Pryce who we have been told was released to make way for possibly Lovell was being paid a wage and therefore we are making that money back per month. So what is the excuse of Lovell not being allowed to play? We're not fools, we know there is stuff that goes on behind the scenes, the hope or dream is that one day Mr Mitchell will come out and say the bills have been paid, embargo is lifted and we are still top of the league. I hope he knows that there are so many passionate fans out there who could probably find ways to make up the deficit if we know the exact amount.
Geoff c: that is the most pertinent point in all of this and it seems to have gone unnoticed. The FL can't reveal the reasons for the embrago if those reasons would either reveal confidential or private information and because of that the fans started protesting to the league. I'd say it's fair to assume Eddie Mitchell knows exactly why there's an embargo and knows it's probably justified. I actually take a great deal of hope out of Mitchells words because he didn't mention going bust, admin or walking away, this could easily be the start of a brighter future if the cool heads are allowed to try and at least stop the bleeding.
cherrychris31
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9:39am Tue 13 Oct 09
Dave11 wrote:Cherries v Saints FA Cup 1st round please.
The best outcome from this season for us will be to win in the play-off final at Wembley and have a decent F.A. Cup run. If that happened this club could easily earn anything from 1-1.3M whereas straight promotion doesn't earn a fraction of that, whilst the home gates will be the same for either play-off or promotion prospects.
In Ed we trust
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9:55am Tue 13 Oct 09
Blue Rinse
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Blue Rinse
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Blue Rinse
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devon exile
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tricky1007
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12:21pm Tue 13 Oct 09
Ken Omerod wrote:ok i spoke to soon, the grumpy old man could not help himself!!! never see a post from you wishing the team luck, saying how well they have done. how do you know he has not included the part rent in the figures, or are you just guessing. i dont know and am happy to say i dont know. you seem to know everything!!! sure your not the accountant for the club!?!! give it a rest. what you gonna do if em sticks to his principals and gets this club back on a stable footing. maybe we should all have a think what you could moan about then...
Well Mitchells statement is nearly right. Thanks for the half truths. Like someone said the £7k operating profit for September should read £8k loss because as stated (not by mitchell) we are only paying half rent and building up more debt. With regards to Mitchells statement of saying it wasn`t this board then he is having a laugh. Ok not you Mitchell but look around you, Murry promised £400k in January Mostyn and Sly have never gone away. They worked with Savi and Baker and remember put us in Admin. It appears , unlike some posters on here , that Mitchell is seeing the light and that the F/League have every right to keep the embargo on us because we are high in debt and have not adhered to our CVA agreement plus we of course still have the winding up petition hanging over us. I would like to know what money Mitchell has put into the club , if any ? Why can`t he pay the shortfall on the rent instead of letting it build up, i believe we already owed them £100k prior to Mitchells arrival ?
bmb
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12:21pm Tue 13 Oct 09
Ken Omerod
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djd
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elvispresleysking
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bibocherry
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dorsetranger
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Somethings not right
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Square Old Codger
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Somethings not right wrote:The FL have several hundred e-mails from aggrieved supporters and it was beginning to attract the media's attention too, this is what they don't like. Whilst you can accept an Embargo - once it reaches the state that it has - with player's careers being put at risk - and they will not allow temporary loans - this is where it becomes unfair - indeed in breach of their own rules. This is what most of us are angry about - supporters of other Club's too feel that we are being unfairly treated. If , as it seems the Chairmen representing the Club's on the League's Committee haven't been made aware of our position, then it stinks.
Whilst I agree that the attitude of EM shows clearly he has more about him than any of his predescessors I also think that he has been got at by the FL I for one wrote to them and simply asked if they thought a Team forced to pick Schoolboys and playing injured players was fair and also would the Club be covered by insurance if any player had to retire through injury and if not would the FL pick up the tab. One point I find disturbing though is that EM says we are doing the time for previous Boards crimes wasnt Mostyn Sly and Murry involved in the previous Boards .
flyingleaper
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3:59pm Tue 13 Oct 09
upthecherriesafcb
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4:48pm Tue 13 Oct 09
cherrychris31 wrote:Yeh but it is unlikely they will be going up looking at their lowely league position! 20 odd points away from the top spot.
upthecherriesafcb wrote: here is a plan. hopefully saints will sell adam lallana , then we get 25% of it. Then the clubs debts are cleared. simples. anyone know how much sky are going to give us?Lallana isnt going anywhere for the time being. Saints view is that they will keep him for this season to try to get them up. If they go up it is likely he will stay, if they dont go up then he will be sold.
cherrychris31
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5:19pm Tue 13 Oct 09
upthecherriesafcb
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All Seeing Eye
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psal
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flyingleaper
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cherrychris31
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All Seeing Eye wrote:Not a fan of Mostyn but we wouldnt have a club at all had it not been for him.
Quote from Eddie " It wasn’t this board either and we are all suffering for what went on before. We are the ones who have got to do the time" Sorry Eddie but you have two former board members (Jonahs) on your new board. Mostyn and Sly!!! Kick them out and you will see more supporters coming back as we do not want to see Mostyn and Sly still getting all their freebee's!!
cherrychris31
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6:31pm Tue 13 Oct 09
All Seeing Eye wrote:Not a fan of Mostyn but we wouldnt have a club at all had it not been for him.
Quote from Eddie " It wasn’t this board either and we are all suffering for what went on before. We are the ones who have got to do the time" Sorry Eddie but you have two former board members (Jonahs) on your new board. Mostyn and Sly!!! Kick them out and you will see more supporters coming back as we do not want to see Mostyn and Sly still getting all their freebee's!!
John Peek
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ferndownmark
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briankrj
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nonnogeppetto
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dc addict
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sea poole
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Julian1964
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AFCBade
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11:21pm Tue 13 Oct 09
sea poole wrote:I agree Seapoole. I do think the embargo is fair given past demeanours but 3 issues make me angry:
Whilst I respect the opinion(s) of the Chairman, there is no way I can accept 'drawing the line' under the iniquitous situation of having a proven player sitting in the stand, whilst offering to play for us for free. The FL must be called to account for such a ludicrous situation. It is totally unacceptable for any organisation to make up rules 'on the hoof' contravening their own regulations. This is MY club (as well as 5000+) other supporters. I feel intensely passionate about it and will not stoop to lick the metaphorical feet of the FL, whilst at the same time not knowing when they will condescend to agree for Steve Lovell to play for free. Their decision exceeds all bounds of rationale and reasoning. It is absurd and as a long-time supporter of this wonderful, yet frustrating club, I don't want to miss an opportunity to include players of the calibre of Steve Lovell, if that is his wish, and also that of the management. I have written to all divisional reps on the FL Board, deliberately ignoring the pin-stripe suited group of non-elected 'people'
fieldymex
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12:02am Wed 14 Oct 09
fieldymex
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12:08am Wed 14 Oct 09
Hampshire Dorset
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12:19am Wed 14 Oct 09
Ken Omerod
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justanotherhappycherry
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Somethings not right
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AFCBade wrote:Dead right but if the FL did take action against previous owners and banned them from running a Team that would mean Mostyn Sly and Murry would not be allowed on the Board and more importantly EM would have to find the dosh to pay Good Old I will never walk away Jeff for his loan sorry investmant no right first time loan . Actually on reflection that has an appeal security word next - blow how apt. Just shows how good Eddie is motivating players with all this tosh going on
sea poole wrote: Whilst I respect the opinion(s) of the Chairman, there is no way I can accept 'drawing the line' under the iniquitous situation of having a proven player sitting in the stand, whilst offering to play for us for free. The FL must be called to account for such a ludicrous situation. It is totally unacceptable for any organisation to make up rules 'on the hoof' contravening their own regulations. This is MY club (as well as 5000+) other supporters. I feel intensely passionate about it and will not stoop to lick the metaphorical feet of the FL, whilst at the same time not knowing when they will condescend to agree for Steve Lovell to play for free. Their decision exceeds all bounds of rationale and reasoning. It is absurd and as a long-time supporter of this wonderful, yet frustrating club, I don't want to miss an opportunity to include players of the calibre of Steve Lovell, if that is his wish, and also that of the management. I have written to all divisional reps on the FL Board, deliberately ignoring the pin-stripe suited group of non-elected 'people'I agree Seapoole. I do think the embargo is fair given past demeanours but 3 issues make me angry: 1. The FL have no grounds to oppose a player playing for free on the grounds of financial strain nor if a parent club loans out a player and pays their wages. It defies logic that the club cant replace the 4 players who have left recently (loansters like Ward/Whiggins and youngsters like Preston/Pryce). 2. They do nothing to deal with past owners/directors who allegedly have failed to run the club properly. Such people should be banned from involvment in football. They just penalise new incumbents. 3. They seem to change the "rules" and reverse previous decisons. Basically shows there are not clear cut rules and so the FL leave themselves exposed to allegations (quite inaccurately i suspect) of bias and vendettas. Hopefully the seige mentality will spur on the team..when fully fit!
Blue Rinse
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dorsetranger
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tjay
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bibocherry
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tjay wrote:I think the FL are a little bit worried (rather than fed up) about us supporters, purely because we are now beginning to state to them about their rule breaking in not letting us have Steve Lovell on board. There is the human rights issues with this that they are breaking, this is both for Steve Lovell and the club. They are making us break the insurance rules, (which I am sure they really must realise, and they are not allowing the supporters (who have paid full price for tickets) to watch a fully fit squad play. Their meaning of a level playing field is not the same as any one elses. Do you get where I am going here. So no wonder they have asked Eddie Mitchell to get us all to back off. The truth is, they are now probably worried that someone might have the money to take legal action against them and win!!!! Security word slip-work. FL beware!!!
In a response from the Football League they sent me an attachment of this article by the echo (telling me to keep quiet i wonder??!!) They also said it is being constantly reviewed and have nothing more to add. I have gone back again as they ignored issues i raised that werent AFCB related so hopefully i will get another response
flyingleaper
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5:21pm Wed 14 Oct 09
fieldymex
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TowerRed
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6:09pm Thu 15 Oct 09
dorsetranger wrote:At the recent season ticket holders meeting Adam Murry said if it wasn't for the legacy debts we would be making a small operating profit. So if we didn't have all the debt hanging round our necks we would have made a small operating profit presumably of £7k.
Ken Omerod you don’t get do you, in a monthly balance sheet, all liabilities are taken in to account in this case the monthly deferred rent. So as have been said previously the operating profit was 7k, if you were to take the deferred rent payment of 17k off the balance sheet, this would show a monthly profit of 24K. I’m assuming you are not a trained account as you would know the above. All this being the case you or I do not know the full facts as we have not seen the actual balance sheet. So make sure you have full facts before making negative comment, please give a balanced argument. The only way for us to truly know if the club would release the monthly statement that they send to the football league. As this would provide us with the full facts. Without people making stuff up, as the only people who know the facts are the people who have seen the balance sheet. Correct me if I’m wrong ken I believe you or anyone apart from the board have not...
Julian1964
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ferndownmark
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Dave11 says...
7:28am Tue 13 Oct 09
Some of us knew all along the reasons for the embargo and knew the severity the FL viewed our broken promises (highest level possible)
If Eddie Mitchell means what he's stated here....every word...AFCB have a chance because he's shown more logic and reasoning in one statement than has been shown for years and all AFCB fans should be happy today because common sense is at last being seen as the way forward.