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Cherries: Mitchell calling for end to pressure on league


Cherries chairman Eddie Mitchell is urging supporters to finally draw a line under talk of the club’s ongoing transfer embargo.

Mitchell’s comments follow hot on the heels of the Football League blocking a second emergency loan signing together with vetoing the club’s bid to engage Steve Lovell.

Majority shareholder Mitchell confirmed the club was still at the “highest level possible” of embargo and admitted there was “no clear picture” of when it might be lifted.

Speaking to the Daily Echo, Mitchell added: “As far as myself and the club are concerned, the embargo is on the back-burner. It’s for us, as a club, to sort ourselves out. The more we keep pressurising and prodding the Football League, the harder it is going to get.

“The previous history is complicating the club going forward. If you do the crime, you’ve got to do the time and it’s no good whingeing about it.

“I am 100 per cent behind Eddie (Howe) and Jason (Tindall) and it wasn’t them who committed the crime but they are the ones who are paying for it. It wasn’t this board either and we are all suffering for what went on before. We are the ones who have got to do the time.

“But we can spend the rest of the season whinging about it or we can forget it and try to get on with what we’ve got to do. I know what’s best and, the more we whinge, the more it is going to defeat what we’re trying to do.”

Mitchell also revealed the club had made a £7,000 operating profit last month – possibly for the first time since Norman Hayward’s chairmanship in the early 1990s – and sounded out a defiant message to supporters.

He said: “We are going to grab this club by the throat and wring its neck until we come out the other side. This club won’t fail, it will prosper. We’ve just got to be patient and keep working hard with the resources we’ve got. We will get through it.

“We’ve got to address our circumstances and live within our means. We need to prove to the Football League that we’ve got full control of what’s going on and we don’t expose the club like it’s been exposed in the past.

“This club has already been let off the hook twice in terms of going under. Other clubs struggled and paid their debts, while this one didn’t. We can’t expect them to just wipe clean the slate and say ‘off you go again’.

“Points deductions were nothing compared with what the club tried to get away with over the past few years and we’ve got to take the punishment.

“We are now working within our means. Month by month, we are eating into the debt and while this club is under my stewardship, I intend for it to make a profit every year.”

Cherries’ league clash against Notts County, which was scheduled for Saturday, December 19, will now be played on Monday, December 21 (7.45 pm). The match will be broadcast live on Sky Sports.

Cherries reserves host Bristol City at Dean Court this afternoon (2pm) in the Football Combination.

Comments(72)

Dave11 says...
7:28am Tue 13 Oct 09

Wow, where to begin?

Some of us knew all along the reasons for the embargo and knew the severity the FL viewed our broken promises (highest level possible)

If Eddie Mitchell means what he's stated here....every word...AFCB have a chance because he's shown more logic and reasoning in one statement than has been shown for years and all AFCB fans should be happy today because common sense is at last being seen as the way forward.

upthecherriesafcb says...
7:35am Tue 13 Oct 09

here is a plan. hopefully saints will sell adam lallana , then we get 25% of it. Then the clubs debts are cleared. simples. anyone know how much sky are going to give us?

nonnogeppetto says...
7:37am Tue 13 Oct 09

I totally agree, regardless of what some people have been saying on this site, about past involvement of certain board members, what matters is for the current outfit to sort out the mess and move forward until then the FL will not budge an inch if anything they will probably look for more excuses. As supporters we should get 100% behind the Eddie Jason Joe and the team and leave the financial mess to the board to sort out. If the supporters can help by fund raising all well and good otherwise lets stick to being the twelth man!!! Come on you Cherries get back into winning ways

dc addict says...
7:39am Tue 13 Oct 09

So, Eddie, this is a punishment then and nothing else. So we all suffer for the things that have gone on, regardless of what is being done now.
You want us to all become tame little lap dogs? Well not me. The FL are guilty of poisonous retribution and malice towards us, the current board, the players, the staff and most importantly the supporters.
They are a disgrace and one day they will go too far. We will then get our chance to (metaphorically of course) kick them when it's their turn to grovel.

horsted says...
7:48am Tue 13 Oct 09

Good words from a very sensible chairman, we have been dealt a crap hand, but we must play the cards we have, just keep doing the right things Mr Mitchell, the supporters will do their bit, onwards and upwards, well done the lads, 25 points from 12 games, currently top, what more can we ask for, we have very interesting times ahead and I want to be part of it, so lets not worry about the FL, we all know what we think of them, sometimes it is best to shut up and get on with it, our time will come, keep the faith.

Tom Griffiths says...
7:53am Tue 13 Oct 09

Thanks again Mr. Mitchell for the statement of facts and how we are all having to cope with our difficulties.I have always been against the harsh words of some of our Posters on this site, and am sure that they will have had adverse effect on chances of progress with the Football League.
However, people have different ways of expressing their wrath and I feel that we are all upset by having to suffer to such an extent, for problems brought about by others. We, as supporters are not responsible for the crime and niether are the present Board of Directors, but as you quite rightlly say. "We have to serve the time" Let's do it together, and we will get through it.

tricky1007 says...
8:09am Tue 13 Oct 09

at last no one having a go at the board!! keep up the good work. if anyone had said top at this stage of the season there would not have been many fans who would have believed it. survival is the name of the game, anything above that is a huge bonus. up the mighty cherries

Cantona4Cherries says...
8:13am Tue 13 Oct 09

But, with the £15k deferred rent for last month, I make that a £8k loss !!!!!

Yorkie Cherry says...
8:14am Tue 13 Oct 09

Whilst I am encouraged to a certain extent by Mr Mitchell's outlook I must add that I disagree with him to say it wasn't this board that brought this problem upon themselves. Yes, the damage was done along time ago but Messrs Mostyn, Sly & Murry did themselves no favours by the haphazard way they 'ran' the club before & after Sport 6. This is what the League have taken into account.

I sincerely hope things do turn round financially but when Eddie Howe has less than three subs named for a game and players having to turn out less than 50% fit then the Board will have to seriously review matters.The Board have to rely on the patience of the players & management as well. Knowing how loyal Eddie & Jason are they will stick it out as long as possible.

As I said before I won't be surprised if Feeney & Pitman leave in January

nonnogeppetto says...
8:23am Tue 13 Oct 09

dc addict wrote:
So, Eddie, this is a punishment then and nothing else. So we all suffer for the things that have gone on, regardless of what is being done now.
You want us to all become tame little lap dogs? Well not me. The FL are guilty of poisonous retribution and malice towards us, the current board, the players, the staff and most importantly the supporters.
They are a disgrace and one day they will go too far. We will then get our chance to (metaphorically of course) kick them when it's their turn to grovel.
cool it DC!!! we share in you passion but there is nothing that we the supporters can do. If they were a Christian outfit we could use the 'widow and the judge' approach but I doubt if they would budge even then!!!

Square Old Codger says...
8:36am Tue 13 Oct 09

I imagine that the harassment of the FL by supporters is having an effect, they hate adverse publicity, so they have leant on Mr.Mitchell telling him to call "The Dogs Off", or else. It doesn't alter the situation though, the FL have behaved disgracefully towards the Players, abrogating their responsibilty to them and to Steve Lovell and should be held to account.

cherrychris31 says...
9:00am Tue 13 Oct 09

Mr Mitchell has always come out and kept us informed. Thats all the supporters hope for.
How much would it cost to pay the HMRC and whoever else needed to enable the embargo to be lifted. Any ideas?

Dave11 says...
9:06am Tue 13 Oct 09

HMRC is 180K.

cherrychris31 says...
9:06am Tue 13 Oct 09

Did anyone read Sea Pooles post last night in the Fletch column. He messaged the Barnet chairman who is the League 2 Rep that calls the shots. He had a personal reply which basically said that he isnt involved in it because of conflict of interest. Also saying that he was unaware of the Steve Lovell situation, does that mean that all the reps that make the decisions are unaware as well? Make your own opinions. I agree with SOC, I think the FL have asked EM to tell us to back down

wookj1 says...
9:07am Tue 13 Oct 09

Our expectations this season have been fuelled by the tremendous start we have made.
Realistically how many of us would have predicted we would be top at this stage of the season. Very few I guess.
Lets examine the facts;
Eddie Howe has no funds available to strengthen the team.
There is an embargo preventing further loan signings or free transfers coming in.
We have been down 5 of the squad that got us out of trouble last season...Humphries, Ward, Wiggins, Cooper, Goulding
Eddie knows that probably 4 of the present squad are not able to provide what he wants, in terms of strengthening certain positions, but he has no room to manouver.
If we stay where we are in the league the club will be paying performance related bonuses to the players reducing further any profit we are making.
Crowds need to be up around the 7000 mark to make a real difference to our cash flow.
League 1 has changed out of all recognition during the last 2 seasons with teams like Norwich,Charlton,Sou
thampton coming down and possibly Ipswich next season all ex premier sides with far bigger budgets and attendances than we will ever have.
Exeter are finding it difficult on the playing and financial side this season.
Stuart Fleetwood who is on loan is on a contract of £3000 per week (Exeter don't pay all of this).
We have to be careful what we wish for, and if we do go up make sure that our team is good enough to compete.
At present we would find it extremely tough and need to build a squad first and foremost.
Eddie is still working with most of the players he has inherited from previous regimes. The commity he needs from us is our support at games, patience and the time he needs to build in the style that he and Jason want to play.
At present they are doing brilliantly with one arm tied behind their backs and a group of players who give 100% in every game.

cherrychris31 says...
9:09am Tue 13 Oct 09

upthecherriesafcb wrote:
here is a plan. hopefully saints will sell adam lallana , then we get 25% of it. Then the clubs debts are cleared. simples. anyone know how much sky are going to give us?
Lallana isnt going anywhere for the time being. Saints view is that they will keep him for this season to try to get them up. If they go up it is likely he will stay, if they dont go up then he will be sold.

cherrychris31 says...
9:12am Tue 13 Oct 09

Dave11 wrote:
HMRC is 180K.
Takes the p doesnt it. Mr Defoe, Mr Ferdinand, Mr Redknapp. 2 weeks wages from any of these ex cherries would clear it!!
However would rather watch cherries anyday than these premiership prima donnas.
180k is nothing in the grand scheme of things. If we keep getting attendances of 7000 oops I mean 5800 like on Saturday then that must help

wookj1 says...
9:14am Tue 13 Oct 09

Sorry, previous post commity should have read commodity.

In Ed we trust says...
9:17am Tue 13 Oct 09

Good to see the club take notice of what people write. With reference to the shareholder meeting and in particular monies handed over to help, we put £2000 in the buckets, with another £1000 in since, Wow!! I think that is awesome in about 20 mins! What an amazing club and set of fans we have?? We should be proud of ourselves!! Well done to all.Imagine what we could do if we got really organised!!!???

Quite simply the best club in the country bar none!

Ken Omerod says...
9:19am Tue 13 Oct 09

Well Mitchells statement is nearly right. Thanks for the half truths. Like someone said the £7k operating profit for September should read £8k loss because as stated (not by mitchell) we are only paying half rent and building up more debt. With regards to Mitchells statement of saying it wasn`t this board then he is having a laugh. Ok not you Mitchell but look around you, Murry promised £400k in January Mostyn and Sly have never gone away. They worked with Savi and Baker and remember put us in Admin. It appears , unlike some posters on here , that Mitchell is seeing the light and that the F/League have every right to keep the embargo on us because we are high in debt and have not adhered to our CVA agreement plus we of course still have the winding up petition hanging over us. I would like to know what money Mitchell has put into the club , if any ? Why can`t he pay the shortfall on the rent instead of letting it build up, i believe we already owed them £100k prior to Mitchells arrival ?

Geoff C says...
9:20am Tue 13 Oct 09

Information needed, and only Mitchell can provide it. It has been clear for some time that the FL have set some financial conditions for lifting the embargo, and the club has been trying to wriggle round them. Some people are easily satisfied by a few strong (but empty words) by the chairman.

It now seems Mitchell took over a club with pressing debts, which the FL rules said needed to be paid off, with no intention of doing so. And he has led us down the garden path for the last 4 months. All the talk of being about to pay debts off, and making operating profits, seems to be by robbing Peter to pay Paul. And all the while the fear in the background that other members of the consortium are there to get back their previous loans (which were supposed to be equity so as to relieve the supporters of their stake in the club).

So please tell us the real situation, Mr Mitchell.

There are 3 ways of paying off debts without diverting funds from paying other people: (1) selling Pitman / Pearce in January, (2) raising funds from fans, or (3) new injections by owners.

My money is on 1, with a bit of 2. But for ral money to come from fans, we need to know the truth. It has never been up to the FL to tell us, they quite rightly have to keep confidences - it is for you Mr Mitchell.

Dave11 says...
9:28am Tue 13 Oct 09

Geoff c: that is the most pertinent point in all of this and it seems to have gone unnoticed. The FL can't reveal the reasons for the embrago if those reasons would either reveal confidential or private information and because of that the fans started protesting to the league. I'd say it's fair to assume Eddie Mitchell knows exactly why there's an embargo and knows it's probably justified. I actually take a great deal of hope out of Mitchells words because he didn't mention going bust, admin or walking away, this could easily be the start of a brighter future if the cool heads are allowed to try and at least stop the bleeding.

terry1965 says...
9:34am Tue 13 Oct 09

Mr. Mitchell talks alot of sense, however I still think the FL are treating the club unreasonably over the embargo and especially Steve Lovell. He has stated that he would play for nothing until finances permit and I'm sure there are a number of loan players available who could be 100% paid for by the parent club. (One of Harry Redknapp's boys at Spurs perhaps?) Why would the FL object to allowing the club to strengthen the squad in this way if it costs the club nothing? It's unfair punishment for Mr. Mitchell, Eddie Howe, the players and especially us the supporters and all because of the incompetence of previous owners who are all long gone. The FL want the club to pay it's debts, right? So why not allow EH to do sign SL and help keep our successful start to the season going? More success on the pitch = more bums on seats = more revenue = debts repaid sooner. It's not rocket science Lord Mawhinney!

Dave11 says...
9:35am Tue 13 Oct 09

The best outcome from this season for us will be to win in the play-off final at Wembley and have a decent F.A. Cup run. If that happened this club could easily earn anything from 1-1.3M whereas straight promotion doesn't earn a fraction of that, whilst the home gates will be the same for either play-off or promotion prospects.

cherrychris31 says...
9:37am Tue 13 Oct 09

Dave11 wrote:
Geoff c: that is the most pertinent point in all of this and it seems to have gone unnoticed. The FL can't reveal the reasons for the embrago if those reasons would either reveal confidential or private information and because of that the fans started protesting to the league. I'd say it's fair to assume Eddie Mitchell knows exactly why there's an embargo and knows it's probably justified. I actually take a great deal of hope out of Mitchells words because he didn't mention going bust, admin or walking away, this could easily be the start of a brighter future if the cool heads are allowed to try and at least stop the bleeding.
Thats all well and good. I think we are now in the safest hands that we have been in for a long long time. EM has always said however that he wont pump loads of his own cash into the club. That was stated on day 1. Why should he? He wanted to get the club back solvent again and the signs are that it is going that way. I keep going on about Steve Lovell and the reason is because he would be no cost to the club. Whereas Ryan Pryce who we have been told was released to make way for possibly Lovell was being paid a wage and therefore we are making that money back per month. So what is the excuse of Lovell not being allowed to play? We're not fools, we know there is stuff that goes on behind the scenes, the hope or dream is that one day Mr Mitchell will come out and say the bills have been paid, embargo is lifted and we are still top of the league. I hope he knows that there are so many passionate fans out there who could probably find ways to make up the deficit if we know the exact amount.

cherrychris31 says...
9:39am Tue 13 Oct 09

Dave11 wrote:
The best outcome from this season for us will be to win in the play-off final at Wembley and have a decent F.A. Cup run. If that happened this club could easily earn anything from 1-1.3M whereas straight promotion doesn't earn a fraction of that, whilst the home gates will be the same for either play-off or promotion prospects.
Cherries v Saints FA Cup 1st round please.
Play-offs best way of promotion but I believe we can finish in top 3 so automatic, and no play off stress!!

In Ed we trust says...
9:55am Tue 13 Oct 09

I think there is more to the timing of Eddie's leave off the league than meets the eye? More to follow I think.

Blue Rinse says...
10:16am Tue 13 Oct 09

I fully agree that the club should live within its means rather than like the greedy careless moneygrabbing Premier League top dogs.Charity begins at home,please Mr Chairmen can we get involved with a PLAYERSHARE FUND,this club needs a DYNAMIC SUPPORTERS CLUB.From my experience the S T has proved to be without ambition,this year I joined but the result has been a waste of time.We need NEW BLOOD.

Blue Rinse says...
10:30am Tue 13 Oct 09

We are going to Accrington on Sat,will any Directors be present,if so could we have a fans forum in the stadium before the match.The fans just want to get involved so lets start on Sat and bring along the Echo reporter to give it some coverage in the Sat evening edition.

Blue Rinse says...
10:31am Tue 13 Oct 09

We are going to Accrington on Sat,will any Directors be present,if so could we have a fans forum in the stadium before the match.The fans just want to get involved so lets start on Sat and bring along the Echo reporter to give it some coverage in the Sat evening edition.

devon exile says...
11:31am Tue 13 Oct 09

having read the comments by Mr Mitchell they do make good sense, the league are very sensetive to critiicism, and if at a time when the football creditors are due to be paid off and hopefully a large chunk to HMRC it would not be the best of time to antagonise them further, like many I have sent constructive emails to the league but they only reply with a standard message

tricky1007 says...
12:21pm Tue 13 Oct 09

Ken Omerod wrote:
Well Mitchells statement is nearly right. Thanks for the half truths. Like someone said the £7k operating profit for September should read £8k loss because as stated (not by mitchell) we are only paying half rent and building up more debt. With regards to Mitchells statement of saying it wasn`t this board then he is having a laugh. Ok not you Mitchell but look around you, Murry promised £400k in January Mostyn and Sly have never gone away. They worked with Savi and Baker and remember put us in Admin. It appears , unlike some posters on here , that Mitchell is seeing the light and that the F/League have every right to keep the embargo on us because we are high in debt and have not adhered to our CVA agreement plus we of course still have the winding up petition hanging over us. I would like to know what money Mitchell has put into the club , if any ? Why can`t he pay the shortfall on the rent instead of letting it build up, i believe we already owed them £100k prior to Mitchells arrival ?
ok i spoke to soon, the grumpy old man could not help himself!!! never see a post from you wishing the team luck, saying how well they have done. how do you know he has not included the part rent in the figures, or are you just guessing. i dont know and am happy to say i dont know. you seem to know everything!!! sure your not the accountant for the club!?!! give it a rest. what you gonna do if em sticks to his principals and gets this club back on a stable footing. maybe we should all have a think what you could moan about then...

1 - drinks to expensive.
2 - food to hot.
3- fans singing to loud giving you a headache.
4 - to many women at games.
5 - change of strip, and not liking the colours.

hope this helps for the coming years. would hate for you to crack a smile once in a while!!

bmb says...
12:21pm Tue 13 Oct 09

I wonder if the playershare directors would be prepared to act as trustees on any embargo fund? I appreciate there is more to it than just the outstanding debts BUT they are obviously a huge part of it. At the moment we do not have a strong fans group to take it on, the KDSA can't because they are limited legally in what they can/cannot fund. The gents who ran playershare before were trusted by the majority of supporters so may an ideal choice to be the people to act as trustees for any fundraising to help out with the financial side of things.

Ken Omerod says...
12:52pm Tue 13 Oct 09

Give over Tricky1007 i praise Eddie Howe and the team on a regular basis and regarding your other comments , have you read them ? He has included `the part rent` in his figures , thats the point ` PART`. Please read back on Mitchells other statements and Murrys and you will then perhaps understand what is going on. There is no investment in our club, its just like last season , they are trying to use our money in the hope of a miracle, you and i could do that. We need investment not half truths. As for moaning , not smiling me i am just trying to put another point of view unlike many others who are taken in by the spin. Do you never learn from previous owners mistakes and lies. I want our club to be solvent but the likes of Mostyn, Sly and Murry have run us into the ground and Mitchell confuses me as to his motives.

djd says...
1:18pm Tue 13 Oct 09

The Football League is not going to budge whatever is done or said.

The club will only be saved by the players playing well, the Board managing the money within the club's means and the supporters supporting the club to their best of ability.

Sod the Football League they are going to do us no favours. Put the amount of energy some are using on this site to slag the FL into supporting the club.

We can all be proud of AFC Bournemouth as OUR club.

Eddie Mitchell does talk a lot of sense and I have more confidence in him than anyone who has been on the Board for a long time.

Slagging of the Football League is not going to save the club. Supporting the club just might save it.

elvispresleysking says...
1:23pm Tue 13 Oct 09

Actually AFCB would have made £22k profit last month!

If they are reporting a £7k profit but there is an additional £15k deferred rent then this would need to be included in the balance sheet as a deferred debt. It would thus have reduced the operating profit from £22k to the reported £7k.

More importantly is why if they are now making enough profit do they not pay the rent in full? My guess is he is using the £15k to go towards paying the HMRC debt - a robbing Peter to pay Paul scenario!

bibocherry says...
1:24pm Tue 13 Oct 09

bmb Poole and SeaPoole
Have made many enquiries today at work, the Indemnity Insurance could well be being breached by players having to be played when already injured. The Human Rights Act is definitely being broken by not allowing Steve Lovell. However, the downside is AFCB have no money in which to fight the cause and neither do we really, unless of course that actually put the points across themselves. Or indeed Steve Lovell does. As for EM saying to us back off from antagonising the FL, to some extent I do agree. On the other hand, it shows now that they are actually getting very rattled, or very concerned that they now know that they have breached not only their own rules but the human rights ones too. Security word cell-pair. How apt. Lets all get a fund going next home match. SeaPoole and me with buckets. How about it SeaPoole.

dorsetranger says...
1:56pm Tue 13 Oct 09

elvispresleysking, you beat me to it saying that the rent arrears would have been included within the balance sheet.
Ken Omerod the majority of what you say I completely agree with that the club must first clear the debts before the embargo would be lifted it just makes sense to get the club in the black, before removing the restriction. But as with any point of view you need to give a balanced argument, the majority of the time you only give the negative view, as other only give a positive view. You should know you need to give a balanced argument before anyone will take you seriously.

As I have said above the embargo in place at the moment is helping the club on the financial field but is hindering it in the playing field with the amount of injuries at the moment, the football league need to take this into account as if we keep on using our schoolboys and taking them out of school this got jeopardise their exams and possible their future if they were not to make it to the ranks of a professional football.

I do believe that the football league need to explain, why we cannot sign a player who has offered his services for free, and will be at no extra expense to the club. Also if a parent club offers a player on loan and is willing to pay their wages and accommodation fees why we would not be able to sign them.

I will repeat again to make it clear the embargo of bringing in players at a cost to us should stay in place until all debts are cleared. But the league is risking players future earning potential if they were to get a career threatening injury whilst not playing fully fit, this could involve the FL having law suits.

Somethings not right says...
2:09pm Tue 13 Oct 09

Whilst I agree that the attitude of EM shows clearly he has more about him than any of his predescessors I also think that he has been got at by the FL I for one wrote to them and simply asked if they thought a Team forced to pick Schoolboys and playing injured players was fair and also would the Club be covered by insurance if any player had to retire through injury and if not would the FL pick up the tab. One point I find disturbing though is that EM says we are doing the time for previous Boards crimes wasnt Mostyn Sly and Murry involved in the previous Boards .

Square Old Codger says...
3:55pm Tue 13 Oct 09

Somethings not right wrote:
Whilst I agree that the attitude of EM shows clearly he has more about him than any of his predescessors I also think that he has been got at by the FL I for one wrote to them and simply asked if they thought a Team forced to pick Schoolboys and playing injured players was fair and also would the Club be covered by insurance if any player had to retire through injury and if not would the FL pick up the tab. One point I find disturbing though is that EM says we are doing the time for previous Boards crimes wasnt Mostyn Sly and Murry involved in the previous Boards .
The FL have several hundred e-mails from aggrieved supporters and it was beginning to attract the media's attention too, this is what they don't like. Whilst you can accept an Embargo - once it reaches the state that it has - with player's careers being put at risk - and they will not allow temporary loans - this is where it becomes unfair - indeed in breach of their own rules. This is what most of us are angry about - supporters of other Club's too feel that we are being unfairly treated. If , as it seems the Chairmen representing the Club's on the League's Committee haven't been made aware of our position, then it stinks.

flyingleaper says...
3:59pm Tue 13 Oct 09

Thanl u E,M, The only fundfaising i see is a dinner in FEB,DONT U LIKE THE GOLF IDEA,has 2 b a winner,LETS GO CHERRIES

upthecherriesafcb says...
4:48pm Tue 13 Oct 09

cherrychris31 wrote:
upthecherriesafcb wrote: here is a plan. hopefully saints will sell adam lallana , then we get 25% of it. Then the clubs debts are cleared. simples. anyone know how much sky are going to give us?
Lallana isnt going anywhere for the time being. Saints view is that they will keep him for this season to try to get them up. If they go up it is likely he will stay, if they dont go up then he will be sold.
Yeh but it is unlikely they will be going up looking at their lowely league position! 20 odd points away from the top spot.

cherrychris31 says...
5:19pm Tue 13 Oct 09

Speaking to Pardew he wants to build the team around Lallana and Lallana doesnt want to go (according to supporters he's not good enough to go yet)

upthecherriesafcb says...
5:27pm Tue 13 Oct 09

oh, well thats my plan out the window!! He could go if the price is right etc. But eddie mitchell is doing okay. and slagging him off on here achieves nothing!

All Seeing Eye says...
5:36pm Tue 13 Oct 09

Quote from Eddie " It wasn’t this board either and we are all suffering for what went on before. We are the ones who have got to do the time"

Sorry Eddie but you have two former board members (Jonahs) on your new board. Mostyn and Sly!!!

Kick them out and you will see more supporters coming back as we do not want to see Mostyn and Sly still getting all their freebee's!!

psal says...
5:47pm Tue 13 Oct 09

I don't watch football, but from the spectators (who pay the wages) point of view I cannot understand why you're being told to be quiet and stop criticising the coffin dodgers who are making these obsurd decisions. I think you supporters have every right to contact them and voice your opinion. They are putting your players at risk every week by making them play with injuries. They won't allow a player to play for free. Maybe they don't want your team at the top of the division. It makes them look idiots. Why aren't the depts being paid off. There are 4 directors. How much did they all put in. I'm sure they will be quick enough to reap the rewards if the club start getting larger gates and makes substantial amounts of money. They should be putting their hands in their pockets. After all they bought the club. If you buy something you have to pay for it....Or did they get it for nothing?

flyingleaper says...
5:55pm Tue 13 Oct 09

Posted a couple o years ago that Pitman would fetch around 500,000/750,000!

cherrychris31 says...
6:31pm Tue 13 Oct 09

All Seeing Eye wrote:
Quote from Eddie " It wasn’t this board either and we are all suffering for what went on before. We are the ones who have got to do the time" Sorry Eddie but you have two former board members (Jonahs) on your new board. Mostyn and Sly!!! Kick them out and you will see more supporters coming back as we do not want to see Mostyn and Sly still getting all their freebee's!!
Not a fan of Mostyn but we wouldnt have a club at all had it not been for him.
Not a fan of his at all and if Mitchell could pay him off i'm sure he would. The fact is Mostyn has money in the club that is helping the club run and letting us enjoy being top of the league.

cherrychris31 says...
6:31pm Tue 13 Oct 09

All Seeing Eye wrote:
Quote from Eddie " It wasn’t this board either and we are all suffering for what went on before. We are the ones who have got to do the time" Sorry Eddie but you have two former board members (Jonahs) on your new board. Mostyn and Sly!!! Kick them out and you will see more supporters coming back as we do not want to see Mostyn and Sly still getting all their freebee's!!
Not a fan of Mostyn but we wouldnt have a club at all had it not been for him.
Not a fan of his at all and if Mitchell could pay him off i'm sure he would. The fact is Mostyn has money in the club that is helping the club run and letting us enjoy being top of the league.

John Peek says...
6:34pm Tue 13 Oct 09

Some simple maths!! If we are making £7000 profit per month, how many years will it take to pay off the debt and have the embargo lifted?? How many players will we cripple in the meantime? If we cannot afford to run a league club, then close it down! At the season ticket holders meeting Murry said with FA/FL money coming in Oct there was a chance the embargo would be lifted. I see many of you are taken in by the EM rhetoric, but I am not. Let's have some honest and frank info!!

ferndownmark says...
6:49pm Tue 13 Oct 09

ok no critics allowed of the football league and the embargo remains. no problem no players no club will the football league investigate why we will no exist? why we can no longer fullfill our fixtures because we have no players? you bet they will that will be the time to fight back and tell them what we think when that day comes i will be first in the queue will my machine gun come revolution up against the wall bop bop bop!!!!!!!!!!

briankrj says...
7:06pm Tue 13 Oct 09

Spend some of yours and get rid of Jeff, just an idea, however screamingly obvious. How much long term damage is being done, do this great club want to be seen as a bunch of wide boys?

nonnogeppetto says...
7:28pm Tue 13 Oct 09

Those of us who have supported the club for the past 30 years + know too well that post Hayward era there has been a downhill slide with chairmen after chairmen syphoning off money and run. To point the finger of blame at Mostyn et al is grossly unfair and as Cherrychris has said it is due to him that we still have a club. Those who do criticise him on here must have so much more knowledge and background about the guy then the rest of us!!

dc addict says...
9:26pm Tue 13 Oct 09

Presumably nobody on here listens to Talksport. Eddie Howe was on Bowtime (Adrian Durham). Adrian is one of the few on Talksport who has a feeling for the lower leagues and gave us a good airing. Unfortunately, you could tell that Eddie had been primed by AFCB not to be too vehement so he didn't get across the really bad stuff like going back on their word twice etc although Steve L. was mentioned in depth.
AT LAST SOME PUBLICITY. This all stemmed from a regular item where they read the sports headlines of various towns so well done trhe ECHO !!

sea poole says...
10:58pm Tue 13 Oct 09

Whilst I respect the opinion(s) of the Chairman, there is no way I can accept 'drawing the line' under the iniquitous situation of having a proven player sitting in the stand, whilst offering to play for us for free. The FL must be called to account for such a ludicrous situation. It is totally unacceptable for any organisation to make up rules 'on the hoof' contravening their own regulations. This is MY club (as well as 5000+) other supporters. I feel intensely passionate about it and will not stoop to lick the metaphorical feet of the FL, whilst at the same time not knowing when they will condescend to agree for Steve Lovell to play for free. Their decision exceeds all bounds of rationale and reasoning. It is absurd and as a long-time supporter of this wonderful, yet frustrating club, I don't want to miss an opportunity to include players of the calibre of Steve Lovell, if that is his wish, and also that of the management. I have written to all divisional reps on the FL Board, deliberately ignoring the pin-stripe suited group of non-elected 'people'

Julian1964 says...
11:08pm Tue 13 Oct 09

One word Mr Mitchell why dont you Remortgage your house if you fully support the club as Chairman which will benefit the club a great deal and would also ease a lot of pressure off the club.If i was living in a five million pound house in Sandbanks i would have no hesitation in doing this.We still in Debt,and only a small amount is being paid off month by month which is no reason the embargo is ongoing.Time and time again we have made comments about how you can make more funds for the club and yet nothing is being done about it????Eddie and the team have done wonders and sorry if it was not for them we would not have a club,its these guys that are keeping Bournemouth going in the limelight and if it was not for them we would not be here today!!!

AFCBade says...
11:21pm Tue 13 Oct 09

sea poole wrote:
Whilst I respect the opinion(s) of the Chairman, there is no way I can accept 'drawing the line' under the iniquitous situation of having a proven player sitting in the stand, whilst offering to play for us for free. The FL must be called to account for such a ludicrous situation. It is totally unacceptable for any organisation to make up rules 'on the hoof' contravening their own regulations. This is MY club (as well as 5000+) other supporters. I feel intensely passionate about it and will not stoop to lick the metaphorical feet of the FL, whilst at the same time not knowing when they will condescend to agree for Steve Lovell to play for free. Their decision exceeds all bounds of rationale and reasoning. It is absurd and as a long-time supporter of this wonderful, yet frustrating club, I don't want to miss an opportunity to include players of the calibre of Steve Lovell, if that is his wish, and also that of the management. I have written to all divisional reps on the FL Board, deliberately ignoring the pin-stripe suited group of non-elected 'people'
I agree Seapoole. I do think the embargo is fair given past demeanours but 3 issues make me angry:

1. The FL have no grounds to oppose a player playing for free on the grounds of financial strain nor if a parent club loans out a player and pays their wages. It defies logic that the club cant replace the 4 players who have left recently (loansters like Ward/Whiggins and youngsters like Preston/Pryce).

2. They do nothing to deal with past owners/directors who allegedly have failed to run the club properly. Such people should be banned from involvment in football. They just penalise new incumbents.

3. They seem to change the "rules" and reverse previous decisons. Basically shows there are not clear cut rules and so the FL leave themselves exposed to allegations (quite inaccurately i suspect) of bias and vendettas.

Hopefully the seige mentality will spur on the team..when fully fit!

fieldymex says...
12:02am Wed 14 Oct 09

I agree with above two posts in particular.
1 allowed 20 players- now we´re not
2 can´t sign players that cost absolutely nothing to the club
3 i agree with the embargo itself!!
4 why do the rest of the clubs in the country not have to pay off their debts before signing players. I fail to see why we are sooo different to the rest of our division or the one above- I mean leeds , come on, how much cheating did they do!!??

fieldymex says...
12:08am Wed 14 Oct 09

On the financial situation I fail to understand how we have paid off any debt that the club has. If last month we made a loss of 8000 and this was the first time we might have made a profit in 20 years, how have we paid off any debt? where has the money come from to pay off debt? murry says we have paid off 400 000. er how? with what? I really don´t understand any of these figures. i am not sure anyone at the club does as so often different figures are bounded about.

Hampshire Dorset says...
12:19am Wed 14 Oct 09

Yet we don't know what the relationship is between the three groups on the board. How does the Mostyn/Sly, Murray and Mitchell groups fit together? This club is apparently substantially in debt to the tune of a significant seven figure sum. Scraping by on a 7k operating profit is not going to deal with the long term issues. As for the first operating profit since the early 90's the club made a profit in the last 10 years and we were virtually debt free a matter of years ago!

Ken Omerod says...
8:50am Wed 14 Oct 09

Forget the operating profit ! If you only pay half rent and probaly miss other creditors payments you are bound to SAY that you made a profit. The rent is £32k a month we are paying £15k ? The debts are rising AGAIN.

justanotherhappycherry says...
9:08am Wed 14 Oct 09

For those that don't know £2000 was raised at the meeting last Monday and there is a thank you plus a report on the meeting on the COWS site.

Somethings not right says...
10:14am Wed 14 Oct 09

AFCBade wrote:
sea poole wrote: Whilst I respect the opinion(s) of the Chairman, there is no way I can accept 'drawing the line' under the iniquitous situation of having a proven player sitting in the stand, whilst offering to play for us for free. The FL must be called to account for such a ludicrous situation. It is totally unacceptable for any organisation to make up rules 'on the hoof' contravening their own regulations. This is MY club (as well as 5000+) other supporters. I feel intensely passionate about it and will not stoop to lick the metaphorical feet of the FL, whilst at the same time not knowing when they will condescend to agree for Steve Lovell to play for free. Their decision exceeds all bounds of rationale and reasoning. It is absurd and as a long-time supporter of this wonderful, yet frustrating club, I don't want to miss an opportunity to include players of the calibre of Steve Lovell, if that is his wish, and also that of the management. I have written to all divisional reps on the FL Board, deliberately ignoring the pin-stripe suited group of non-elected 'people'
I agree Seapoole. I do think the embargo is fair given past demeanours but 3 issues make me angry: 1. The FL have no grounds to oppose a player playing for free on the grounds of financial strain nor if a parent club loans out a player and pays their wages. It defies logic that the club cant replace the 4 players who have left recently (loansters like Ward/Whiggins and youngsters like Preston/Pryce). 2. They do nothing to deal with past owners/directors who allegedly have failed to run the club properly. Such people should be banned from involvment in football. They just penalise new incumbents. 3. They seem to change the "rules" and reverse previous decisons. Basically shows there are not clear cut rules and so the FL leave themselves exposed to allegations (quite inaccurately i suspect) of bias and vendettas. Hopefully the seige mentality will spur on the team..when fully fit!
Dead right but if the FL did take action against previous owners and banned them from running a Team that would mean Mostyn Sly and Murry would not be allowed on the Board and more importantly EM would have to find the dosh to pay Good Old I will never walk away Jeff for his loan sorry investmant no right first time loan . Actually on reflection that has an appeal security word next - blow how apt. Just shows how good Eddie is motivating players with all this tosh going on

Blue Rinse says...
11:22am Wed 14 Oct 09

I know that there has been a lot of misdoings in past but could we turn RESOLUTELY towards the future. WE NEED A NEW SUPPORTERS CLUB,there are many capable fans who could get the ball rolling,I for one would love to play a part in really HELPING THE CLUB

dorsetranger says...
12:22pm Wed 14 Oct 09

Ken Omerod you don’t get do you, in a monthly balance sheet, all liabilities are taken in to account in this case the monthly deferred rent. So as have been said previously the operating profit was 7k, if you were to take the deferred rent payment of 17k off the balance sheet, this would show a monthly profit of 24K.

I’m assuming you are not a trained account as you would know the above.

All this being the case you or I do not know the full facts as we have not seen the actual balance sheet. So make sure you have full facts before making negative comment, please give a balanced argument.

The only way for us to truly know if the club would release the monthly statement that they send to the football league. As this would provide us with the full facts. Without people making stuff up, as the only people who know the facts are the people who have seen the balance sheet.

Correct me if I’m wrong ken I believe you or anyone apart from the board have not...

tjay says...
12:50pm Wed 14 Oct 09

In a response from the Football League they sent me an attachment of this article by the echo (telling me to keep quiet i wonder??!!)

They also said it is being constantly reviewed and have nothing more to add.

I have gone back again as they ignored issues i raised that werent AFCB related so hopefully i will get another response

bibocherry says...
1:41pm Wed 14 Oct 09

tjay wrote:
In a response from the Football League they sent me an attachment of this article by the echo (telling me to keep quiet i wonder??!!) They also said it is being constantly reviewed and have nothing more to add. I have gone back again as they ignored issues i raised that werent AFCB related so hopefully i will get another response
I think the FL are a little bit worried (rather than fed up) about us supporters, purely because we are now beginning to state to them about their rule breaking in not letting us have Steve Lovell on board. There is the human rights issues with this that they are breaking, this is both for Steve Lovell and the club. They are making us break the insurance rules, (which I am sure they really must realise, and they are not allowing the supporters (who have paid full price for tickets) to watch a fully fit squad play. Their meaning of a level playing field is not the same as any one elses. Do you get where I am going here. So no wonder they have asked Eddie Mitchell to get us all to back off. The truth is, they are now probably worried that someone might have the money to take legal action against them and win!!!! Security word slip-work. FL beware!!!

flyingleaper says...
5:21pm Wed 14 Oct 09

If i were to put an ad in the paper over here, relaying the need for funds to help our cause, where should i direct any responses,where should any money be sent?ONE OF MY LOCAL PUBS,even brought a brick in the wall,so who knows>

fieldymex says...
3:03pm Thu 15 Oct 09

i was absolutely stunned to get an attachment of this article from the football leagu. they said


"We attach an extract from the Bournemouth Echo which you may find helpful."


This without doubt shows that the football league asked the club to get us off their back. I think we should do the complete opposite and I think the ownership would be pleased as long as they are seen to do as the football league ordered the FL cannot blame EM. I shall be writing back to them now

TowerRed says...
6:09pm Thu 15 Oct 09

dorsetranger wrote:
Ken Omerod you don’t get do you, in a monthly balance sheet, all liabilities are taken in to account in this case the monthly deferred rent. So as have been said previously the operating profit was 7k, if you were to take the deferred rent payment of 17k off the balance sheet, this would show a monthly profit of 24K. I’m assuming you are not a trained account as you would know the above. All this being the case you or I do not know the full facts as we have not seen the actual balance sheet. So make sure you have full facts before making negative comment, please give a balanced argument. The only way for us to truly know if the club would release the monthly statement that they send to the football league. As this would provide us with the full facts. Without people making stuff up, as the only people who know the facts are the people who have seen the balance sheet. Correct me if I’m wrong ken I believe you or anyone apart from the board have not...
At the recent season ticket holders meeting Adam Murry said if it wasn't for the legacy debts we would be making a small operating profit. So if we didn't have all the debt hanging round our necks we would have made a small operating profit presumably of £7k.

The problem is we obviously DO have this debt around our necks.

So as usual figures can be twisted to mean whatever you want.

Julian1964 says...
10:29pm Thu 15 Oct 09

No one will ever be able to fight the big cheifs,everything will full on deaf ears.

ferndownmark says...
2:51pm Sun 18 Oct 09

as long as we remain top of the league we will be giving the league two very big fingers and that is what i love about this wonderful club we stick together and come through in the end!!!!!!!!!!!!! **** IN THE FACE OF ADVERSITY I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!! come on you mighty reds


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