Cherries boss Groves: I won't quit (From Bournemouth Echo)
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Cherries boss Groves: I won't quit
11:27pm Tuesday 2nd October 2012 in Sport
By Ian Wadley
DEFIANT Paul Groves watched Cherries suffer another demoralising defeat but then insisted there was “no chance” of him quitting.
Under-fire boss Groves answered questions on his future after he had come under increasing pressure as Cherries were made to pay for some terrible defending on their way to a 3-1 loss at Crawley Town tonight.
Cherries started brightly but again conceded too easily as first-half goals from Hope Akpan and Joe Walsh put the hosts in charge at Broadfield Stadium.
Lee Barnard gave Cherries a brief glimmer of hope but that vanished as soon as Nicky Adams had thumped home to restore the Reds’ two-goal lead.
Only some fine goalkeeping from David James prevented Cherries from further punishment as the Crawley fans taunted their counterparts with chants of ‘can we play you every week?’
Struggling Cherries are now only out of the League One relegation zone on goal difference.
When asked by BBC Radio Solent whether he would resign, Groves insisted: “In football, you don’t quit. You never quit on the pitch and you never quit off the pitch, so no chance.
“Yes, I am responsible and people come to me. But, also, those players on the pitch have to do their jobs. If they don’t do their jobs, you have to look at trying to change that round a little bit in terms of the personnel.”
Groves, who faced calls for his sacking from some of the visiting Cherries fans, admitted Cherries’ defending had not been acceptable during their latest defeat.
He added: “We were starting to grow a little bit and get in and around their box, but not really cause them enough problems.
“But two set-plays resulted in two goals. That can’t happen.
“If you hadn’t done the work and gone through the detail, then you could hold up your hands and say you hadn’t done it and had been subsequently undone.
“But last Wednesday, we spent all day doing set-plays. Before every single game, we do set-plays and go through every little bit of detail.
“We have conceded four goals in the past two games from set-plays. People are responsible for doing their jobs and you have to go through them again and again until you get it right.
“It is very difficult to accept.”
Comments(116)
YafcbY
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11:40pm Tue 2 Oct 12
The heart skipped a beat then!
Please quit Mr Groves.
molbol
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11:45pm Tue 2 Oct 12
YafcbY wrote:He's been sacked, trust!
Thought the headline read "I quit."
The heart skipped a beat then!
Please quit Mr Groves.
paulhanlon
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11:49pm Tue 2 Oct 12
molbol wrote:is this speculation?
YafcbY wrote:He's been sacked, trust!
Thought the headline read "I quit."
The heart skipped a beat then!
Please quit Mr Groves.
Any hole's a goal
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11:49pm Tue 2 Oct 12
The Renegade Master
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11:52pm Tue 2 Oct 12
poolepaul
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11:53pm Tue 2 Oct 12
The Renegade Master
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11:55pm Tue 2 Oct 12
Maxim Demin & Harry Redknapp in!
your having a laugh111
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11:55pm Tue 2 Oct 12
nicoAFCB
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11:56pm Tue 2 Oct 12
winch
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11:58pm Tue 2 Oct 12
Just getting rid of him and his sidekick (and please job experience boy Tom) wont be enough we need to replace them with someone who is strong enough to stand up to the chairman and his motley crew
Palantir
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12:02am Wed 3 Oct 12
YafcbY
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12:07am Wed 3 Oct 12
molbol
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12:19am Wed 3 Oct 12
paulhanlon wrote:Not at all - as you will discover very soon. He won't quit so the decision has been made for him.
molbol wrote:is this speculation?
YafcbY wrote:He's been sacked, trust!
Thought the headline read "I quit."
The heart skipped a beat then!
Please quit Mr Groves.
Wait for the echos 'breaking news' if you don't believe me.
paulhanlon
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12:21am Wed 3 Oct 12
batman_cherry
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12:24am Wed 3 Oct 12
jezza24
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12:26am Wed 3 Oct 12
molbol
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12:26am Wed 3 Oct 12
paulhanlon wrote:Couldn't resist spilling the beans on this one. I normally keep shtum when I get first hand info on club gossip etc. but thought this warranted blabbing. Trouble is, no one believes me!!
lol - think we all want to believe this.
Rich1978
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12:27am Wed 3 Oct 12
I'm sure he's a really nice guy and everyone should remember that you're playing with someone's livelihood if he gets sacked. Move him back to the youth setup and get a decent manager.
I may not go to the next home game. Money is tight and I'm really get sick of paying to watch a team with no formation and no idea how to score goals and win games. Sorry AFCB, but enough is enough.
jezza24
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12:38am Wed 3 Oct 12
g money every sat that goes!!!
Bee_Gee
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12:48am Wed 3 Oct 12
Make your feelings known, Get out on that pitch Sit down, and shut up until Groves has gone. I'll be there that day and will be doing this.
jezza24
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12:55am Wed 3 Oct 12
Bee_Gee wrote:im in,sounds like a plan!! Lets call it cherry aid............. join up afcb fans...
Enough is Enough Mitchell wont listen to us when we do a protest after the match so if Groves is still in charge come the Leyton Orient game on the 13th October I urge all remaining AFCB fans to get up out your seat and just simply walk out onto the pitch at 5 minutes to 3pm and sit down at the Center Circle. If every single AFCB did this the club could not afford to ban us all. Make your feelings known, Get out on that pitch Sit down, and shut up until Groves has gone. I'll be there that day and will be doing this.
lionheart
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1:00am Wed 3 Oct 12
poolepaul
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1:28am Wed 3 Oct 12
Bobcat
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6:33am Wed 3 Oct 12
EM, you stuffed up appointing the man and now you are living with the result of your crass nepotism..
tricky1007
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6:43am Wed 3 Oct 12
jezza24 wrote:yeah lets see if we could get a points deduction as well, cos that would really help our cause!! I cant imagine he can last any longer, but if he does, why not all cherries fans go and watch Poole or another non league side and the message would get through a lot better with only away fans in the ground!
Bee_Gee wrote:im in,sounds like a plan!! Lets call it cherry aid............. join up afcb fans...
Enough is Enough Mitchell wont listen to us when we do a protest after the match so if Groves is still in charge come the Leyton Orient game on the 13th October I urge all remaining AFCB fans to get up out your seat and just simply walk out onto the pitch at 5 minutes to 3pm and sit down at the Center Circle. If every single AFCB did this the club could not afford to ban us all. Make your feelings known, Get out on that pitch Sit down, and shut up until Groves has gone. I'll be there that day and will be doing this.
alasdair1967
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7:12am Wed 3 Oct 12
alasdair1967
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7:28am Wed 3 Oct 12
Richard 1976
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7:32am Wed 3 Oct 12
cheeriedriteup
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7:33am Wed 3 Oct 12
Rich1978 wrote:The trouble is the once very good youth system that AFCB had is gone to pot as well , it's not funded, no fund raising outside the ground any more and no sign of the AFCB trials the youngsters used to be able to attend on a yearly basis. Home grown talent will be unheard of 10 years down the line
Surely enough is enough. I said give him until the end of October, but expected some success along the way. It hasn't happened and that just shows inexperience.
I'm sure he's a really nice guy and everyone should remember that you're playing with someone's livelihood if he gets sacked. Move him back to the youth setup and get a decent manager.
I may not go to the next home game. Money is tight and I'm really get sick of paying to watch a team with no formation and no idea how to score goals and win games. Sorry AFCB, but enough is enough.
alasdair1967
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7:34am Wed 3 Oct 12
Richard 1976 wrote:It's only because results where in our favour last night that we are not in the drop zone this morning
There's an ill wind blowing at dc these days. An incompetent manager and a pig headed chairman. Your staring relegation in the face Mitchell. Sack groves
common dog
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7:36am Wed 3 Oct 12
alasdair1967 wrote:tbh I don't think it makes a awful lot of difference anymore.
He won't quit because he knows its financially prudent to be sacked
cheeriedriteup
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7:38am Wed 3 Oct 12
tricky1007 wrote:I went to watch Wimborne Town last night, FA trophy replay, a good entertaining 2-2 after 90 miniatures , 3-3 after extra time and W. Town won on penalties. What a cracking game and good to see some old Cherries fans there
jezza24 wrote:yeah lets see if we could get a points deduction as well, cos that would really help our cause!! I cant imagine he can last any longer, but if he does, why not all cherries fans go and watch Poole or another non league side and the message would get through a lot better with only away fans in the ground!
Bee_Gee wrote:im in,sounds like a plan!! Lets call it cherry aid............. join up afcb fans...
Enough is Enough Mitchell wont listen to us when we do a protest after the match so if Groves is still in charge come the Leyton Orient game on the 13th October I urge all remaining AFCB fans to get up out your seat and just simply walk out onto the pitch at 5 minutes to 3pm and sit down at the Center Circle. If every single AFCB did this the club could not afford to ban us all. Make your feelings known, Get out on that pitch Sit down, and shut up until Groves has gone. I'll be there that day and will be doing this.
West moors 1
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8:15am Wed 3 Oct 12
Frankiesbackfromhollywood
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8:16am Wed 3 Oct 12
Bee_Gee wrote:Far simpler to just not go!! if you want to demonstrate then do the same thing but outside the ground a kick off, really no need to cause other issues by sitting on the pitch, same effect can be made outside!! Imagine kick off with no one inside but away fans and all the cherries fans outside calling for Groves head, that would be a pretty strong message!! if you are inside you will have already have paid!
Enough is Enough Mitchell wont listen to us when we do a protest after the match so if Groves is still in charge come the Leyton Orient game on the 13th October I urge all remaining AFCB fans to get up out your seat and just simply walk out onto the pitch at 5 minutes to 3pm and sit down at the Center Circle. If every single AFCB did this the club could not afford to ban us all.
Make your feelings known, Get out on that pitch Sit down, and shut up until Groves has gone. I'll be there that day and will be doing this.
AFCBade
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8:32am Wed 3 Oct 12
simong
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8:36am Wed 3 Oct 12
AFCB's worst ever manager,totally clueless and out of his depth and a team of halfwits running the club who aren't prepared to admit they've got it wrong - again !
pehf1rules
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8:39am Wed 3 Oct 12
throatwarbler
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8:45am Wed 3 Oct 12
he just needs more time.
Groves IN.
bmthlad69
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8:50am Wed 3 Oct 12
throatwarbler wrote:Hahahaha - that's all I can say lol
Groves won't quit and why should he? He's done nothing wrong. He's doing the very best he can and i believe he is close to getting this right. As he said himself after the game "We were starting to grow a little bit and get in and around their box" - this is a very positive sign.
he just needs more time.
Groves IN.
Any hole's a goal
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8:54am Wed 3 Oct 12
throatwarbler wrote:I'm sending you the bill for the laptop refurbishment required after spitting out my morning coffee whilst reading that filth!
Groves won't quit and why should he? He's done nothing wrong. He's doing the very best he can and i believe he is close to getting this right. As he said himself after the game "We were starting to grow a little bit and get in and around their box" - this is a very positive sign.
he just needs more time.
Groves IN.
Rich1978
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8:55am Wed 3 Oct 12
throatwarbler wrote:Sorry, I agree with most of this but can only assume you're related to Groves.
Groves won't quit and why should he? He's done nothing wrong. He's doing the very best he can and i believe he is close to getting this right. As he said himself after the game "We were starting to grow a little bit and get in and around their box" - this is a very positive sign.
he just needs more time.
Groves IN.
You must have been watching different games to me. The football has been dismal all season. Sorry but hes had enough chances now.
afcb-mark
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8:56am Wed 3 Oct 12
throatwarbler wrote:Yep, we're getting closer ha ha.
Groves won't quit and why should he? He's done nothing wrong. He's doing the very best he can and i believe he is close to getting this right. As he said himself after the game "We were starting to grow a little bit and get in and around their box" - this is a very positive sign.
he just needs more time.
Groves IN.
We were only three goals away from getting a win last night, oh so close. More time...if they were still playing now against 6 men we'd still be losing. Get a grip man.
Piston_Broke
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8:57am Wed 3 Oct 12
DansAFCB
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8:59am Wed 3 Oct 12
molbol wrote:Very strange there is no news this morning, only from last night. You sure that he is gone. I have to say that I reckon the Echo boys are at the stadium hence no news!!!!!!!?
He wont , or put better, didn't get the chance to. Groves is a goner!
GROVES YOU ARE A DISGRACE. "I won't quit" you pig headed jerk!!!!!! Now Fu@k off!!!!!
cherrychris75
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9:03am Wed 3 Oct 12
molbol wrote:Hi again Molbol!! I think your right, but wouldnt it be funny if he sacked PG and put Tom in as Caretaker Manager!!
paulhanlon wrote:Not at all - as you will discover very soon. He won't quit so the decision has been made for him.
molbol wrote:is this speculation?
YafcbY wrote:He's been sacked, trust!
Thought the headline read "I quit."
The heart skipped a beat then!
Please quit Mr Groves.
Wait for the echos 'breaking news' if you don't believe me.
My hope is Steve Cotterill, local and can start straight away
Football banning order yob
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9:05am Wed 3 Oct 12
throatwarbler wrote:Wind up merchant!
Groves won't quit and why should he? He's done nothing wrong. He's doing the very best he can and i believe he is close to getting this right. As he said himself after the game "We were starting to grow a little bit and get in and around their box" - this is a very positive sign.
he just needs more time.
Groves IN.
B'mth 56
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9:07am Wed 3 Oct 12
DansAFCB wrote:Rumour has it that EM will have a second round of talks today with ------------------- Ashley Vickers. I just hope this rumour has no substance. Experienced successful manager needed with a proven track record.
molbol wrote:Very strange there is no news this morning, only from last night. You sure that he is gone. I have to say that I reckon the Echo boys are at the stadium hence no news!!!!!!!?
He wont , or put better, didn't get the chance to. Groves is a goner!
GROVES YOU ARE A DISGRACE. "I won't quit" you pig headed jerk!!!!!! Now Fu@k off!!!!!
CherryHammer
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9:08am Wed 3 Oct 12
throatwarbler wrote:Are you deluded, brain dead, Groves in disguise or all three........
Groves won't quit and why should he? He's done nothing wrong. He's doing the very best he can and i believe he is close to getting this right. As he said himself after the game "We were starting to grow a little bit and get in and around their box" - this is a very positive sign. he just needs more time. Groves IN.
dc addict
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9:15am Wed 3 Oct 12
bmthlad69 wrote:There's always a chance, however small, that you are right,Tom but EM can't afford to take that risk.
throatwarbler wrote:Hahahaha - that's all I can say lol
Groves won't quit and why should he? He's done nothing wrong. He's doing the very best he can and i believe he is close to getting this right. As he said himself after the game "We were starting to grow a little bit and get in and around their box" - this is a very positive sign.
he just needs more time.
Groves IN.
The mistakes have been obvious.
Employing PG and SB when an experience manager with streer cred was needed.
PG and TM's signings were of needless quantity and average quality.
PG's match day selection has been quite shocking.
These points were made long ago by so many of us but have been universally ignored.
In this case, I think Molbol is wrong. I can see the good ship AFCB sinking completely. The only ones that will go down with the ship are us, the fans. EM and his crew are all OK, that's for sure.
Mr Mitchell, you did well to get Maxim Demin on board but you are no better suited to running a football club than my cat is of running a property development company.
cheeriedriteup
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9:16am Wed 3 Oct 12
throatwarbler wrote:He's had his entire career to get it right. Is that not enough time, there's a club a lot lower than us that didn't wan him- what does tht say.
Groves won't quit and why should he? He's done nothing wrong. He's doing the very best he can and i believe he is close to getting this right. As he said himself after the game "We were starting to grow a little bit and get in and around their box" - this is a very positive sign.
he just needs more time.
Groves IN.
Couchy125
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9:22am Wed 3 Oct 12
ifordcherry wrote:I have got to say your comment is the best I've read in ages. Top draw my friend.
Eddie boy you have managed to turn a shabby football club into the equivalent of that lovely blond bird i pulled back in the nineties...Trouble was that under all that beautiful exterior she had a dick !!
Martinkiddle
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9:26am Wed 3 Oct 12
hotdog350
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9:30am Wed 3 Oct 12
But what will happen to Brookes and Tom as they have played an equal part in this mess. Groves is a buffer zone to protect them?
Eddie will have to act because if he don;t , his cash cow( us ) is slipping away from him and he needs it to keep himself in his lifestyle
Mike Oxbig
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9:32am Wed 3 Oct 12
ifordcherry wrote:Haha!!!
Eddie boy you have managed to turn a shabby football club into the equivalent of that lovely blond bird i pulled back in the nineties...Trouble was that under all that beautiful exterior she had a dick !!
Square Old Codger
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9:32am Wed 3 Oct 12
Afcbpete
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9:33am Wed 3 Oct 12
B'mth 56 wrote:So is this ANOTHER "Pal" being lined up. IF this was to happen Mitchell just proves even more he has NO idea. Vickers may be very good, I know nothing about him, but the FANS will now demand an experienced manager with a good lrack record as you rightly say. I still say MITCHELL OUT as he is dragging this club down...
DansAFCB wrote:Rumour has it that EM will have a second round of talks today with ------------------- Ashley Vickers. I just hope this rumour has no substance. Experienced successful manager needed with a proven track record.
molbol wrote:Very strange there is no news this morning, only from last night. You sure that he is gone. I have to say that I reckon the Echo boys are at the stadium hence no news!!!!!!!?
He wont , or put better, didn't get the chance to. Groves is a goner!
GROVES YOU ARE A DISGRACE. "I won't quit" you pig headed jerk!!!!!! Now Fu@k off!!!!!
molbol
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9:37am Wed 3 Oct 12
DansAFCB wrote:Patience Dans - All will become clear soon enough mate, just watch this space.
molbol wrote:Very strange there is no news this morning, only from last night. You sure that he is gone. I have to say that I reckon the Echo boys are at the stadium hence no news!!!!!!!?
He wont , or put better, didn't get the chance to. Groves is a goner!
GROVES YOU ARE A DISGRACE. "I won't quit" you pig headed jerk!!!!!! Now Fu@k off!!!!!
These things take time; something PG has finally run out of.
Let's just say he has 'Maxed' out his welcome.....
ASM
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9:46am Wed 3 Oct 12
little tommy boy out!
Mike Oxbig
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9:46am Wed 3 Oct 12
molbol wrote:How do you know this?
DansAFCB wrote:Patience Dans - All will become clear soon enough mate, just watch this space.
molbol wrote:Very strange there is no news this morning, only from last night. You sure that he is gone. I have to say that I reckon the Echo boys are at the stadium hence no news!!!!!!!?
He wont , or put better, didn't get the chance to. Groves is a goner!
GROVES YOU ARE A DISGRACE. "I won't quit" you pig headed jerk!!!!!! Now Fu@k off!!!!!
These things take time; something PG has finally run out of.
Let's just say he has 'Maxed' out his welcome.....
dustbindanny
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9:47am Wed 3 Oct 12
molbol
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9:50am Wed 3 Oct 12
cherrychris75 wrote:Hi Chris
molbol wrote:Hi again Molbol!! I think your right, but wouldnt it be funny if he sacked PG and put Tom in as Caretaker Manager!!
paulhanlon wrote:Not at all - as you will discover very soon. He won't quit so the decision has been made for him.
molbol wrote:is this speculation?
YafcbY wrote:He's been sacked, trust!
Thought the headline read "I quit."
The heart skipped a beat then!
Please quit Mr Groves.
Wait for the echos 'breaking news' if you don't believe me.
My hope is Steve Cotterill, local and can start straight away
Long time no speak; like you i don't post on here as much as i used to - Got fed up reading the same stuff from the same people every day.
All i can say is i'm assured it will almost certainly happen today, although with our recent track record and Groves obviously hanging on for his compo who knows? And more worrying is who to replace him - God forbid, but Brooks? He's as culpable as Groves in my book; in fact worse because he's the one who stabbed Bradbury in the back by slagging him off to Mitchell by all accounts. I'm sure he'll have plenty to say to 'the family' over this debacle.
goatty
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9:51am Wed 3 Oct 12
molbol wrote:Well lets hope that Tom 'no knowledge' will be maxed out at the same time.
DansAFCB wrote:Patience Dans - All will become clear soon enough mate, just watch this space.
molbol wrote:Very strange there is no news this morning, only from last night. You sure that he is gone. I have to say that I reckon the Echo boys are at the stadium hence no news!!!!!!!?
He wont , or put better, didn't get the chance to. Groves is a goner!
GROVES YOU ARE A DISGRACE. "I won't quit" you pig headed jerk!!!!!! Now Fu@k off!!!!!
These things take time; something PG has finally run out of.
Let's just say he has 'Maxed' out his welcome.....
TedMacsCherryPants
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9:54am Wed 3 Oct 12
Mike Oxbig wrote:Hilarious! Did you leave straight away or go with the "I've started so I'll finish" strategy??
ifordcherry wrote: Eddie boy you have managed to turn a shabby football club into the equivalent of that lovely blond bird i pulled back in the nineties...Trouble was that under all that beautiful exterior she had a dick !!Haha!!!
Re Groves:
If he goes Brooks and Tom HAVE to go with him, I'll be disgusted if they just get rid of one of them!!!
Piston_Broke
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9:55am Wed 3 Oct 12
Square Old Codger wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if this whole sorry mess is quite simply a case of Mitchell fleecing Demin. Along came a gullible "investor", and the Mitchell clan have prospered. There is no way on earth that a League One club could support the Mitchell family lifestyle under normal circumstances, and Seven Developments certainly isn't.
Groves is either "thick" or in self denial, listening to him on Solent last night and again this morning , he's still maintaining that we are playing well - but not taking the chances. The Club is rotten from top to bottom and it needs a complete clear out of the entire Management, the Mitchell's and their entourage, including Blake, professional Management brought in and with that some financial control established. The only one that can do that is Demin. As things are I fear that the Club will be back in Adminstration next year, it must be losing money hand over fist, wildly overspending and with income falling, it would be interesting to know whether Mitchell has spent the entire £6m yet? If Groves is still in situ for the Orient match - then a total boycott would be appropriate. It would certainly concentrate minds - both at the Football League and just maybe Max Demin's - the problem is that we just don't know whether he has any real interest in the Club - he might just put in a Reciever and recover what he can of his monies. As an aside I was watching the Man U game last night, sound off - listening to the Cherries, when I thought that I saw Eddie Mitchell - it wasn't , just the Manager of Cluj, the man from Trans Sylvania, was his double. Any one else see the resemblence. .
molbol
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9:55am Wed 3 Oct 12
Mike Oxbig wrote:I'm sure you realise i can hardly publicise that, can i?
molbol wrote:How do you know this?
DansAFCB wrote:Patience Dans - All will become clear soon enough mate, just watch this space.
molbol wrote:Very strange there is no news this morning, only from last night. You sure that he is gone. I have to say that I reckon the Echo boys are at the stadium hence no news!!!!!!!?
He wont , or put better, didn't get the chance to. Groves is a goner!
GROVES YOU ARE A DISGRACE. "I won't quit" you pig headed jerk!!!!!! Now Fu@k off!!!!!
These things take time; something PG has finally run out of.
Let's just say he has 'Maxed' out his welcome.....
Your dreams will soon become reality Mike, trust me.
common dog
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10:02am Wed 3 Oct 12
DansAFCB wrote:How would you like it if someone with no qualifications or experience in your job came to your workplace and said that about you?
molbol wrote:Very strange there is no news this morning, only from last night. You sure that he is gone. I have to say that I reckon the Echo boys are at the stadium hence no news!!!!!!!?
He wont , or put better, didn't get the chance to. Groves is a goner!
GROVES YOU ARE A DISGRACE. "I won't quit" you pig headed jerk!!!!!! Now Fu@k off!!!!!
.
He is honestly trying to do the job,but it isn't happening at the moment and he is probably in the wrong job. That does not give anyone an excuse to insult or abuse him.
bmth
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10:02am Wed 3 Oct 12
'Cause I wasn't there
Don't blame me, it just isn't fair
You listen to their side
Now listen to mine
Can't think of a story
Sure you'll find me sometime
Now pass the blame and don't blame me
Just close your eyes and count to three
(One two three)
Then I'll be gone and you'll forget
The broken window, t.v. set
It wasn't me either, I'm just his mate
He told me to stand here and watch the gate
I've got a wife and three kids you know
They'll tell you I'm straight, at least I think so
I'm as honest as the day is long,
The longer the daylight, the less I do wrong
Pass the blame and don't blame me
Just close your eyes and count to three
(One two three)
Piston_Broke
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10:02am Wed 3 Oct 12
cherrychris75 wrote:Sorry, but I don't get the clamour for Cotterill. Useless at Pompey, useless at Forest. And anyone suggesting Steve Kean should be locked away in St. Anne's indefinitely.
molbol wrote:Hi again Molbol!! I think your right, but wouldnt it be funny if he sacked PG and put Tom in as Caretaker Manager!!
paulhanlon wrote:Not at all - as you will discover very soon. He won't quit so the decision has been made for him.
molbol wrote:is this speculation?
YafcbY wrote:He's been sacked, trust!
Thought the headline read "I quit."
The heart skipped a beat then!
Please quit Mr Groves.
Wait for the echos 'breaking news' if you don't believe me.
My hope is Steve Cotterill, local and can start straight away
My shout would be Phil Brown. I accept he had a nightmare at PNE, but that'll only make him more determined. He doesn't suffer fools, wears his heart on his sleeve, knows how to defend, need I go on.
Football banning order yob
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10:10am Wed 3 Oct 12
Piston_Broke wrote:Agree about cotterill done nothing apart from get lucky at notts county, don't want brown either got lucky at hull, we want billy Davies..
cherrychris75 wrote:Sorry, but I don't get the clamour for Cotterill. Useless at Pompey, useless at Forest. And anyone suggesting Steve Kean should be locked away in St. Anne's indefinitely.
molbol wrote:Hi again Molbol!! I think your right, but wouldnt it be funny if he sacked PG and put Tom in as Caretaker Manager!!
paulhanlon wrote:Not at all - as you will discover very soon. He won't quit so the decision has been made for him.
molbol wrote:is this speculation?
YafcbY wrote:He's been sacked, trust!
Thought the headline read "I quit."
The heart skipped a beat then!
Please quit Mr Groves.
Wait for the echos 'breaking news' if you don't believe me.
My hope is Steve Cotterill, local and can start straight away
My shout would be Phil Brown. I accept he had a nightmare at PNE, but that'll only make him more determined. He doesn't suffer fools, wears his heart on his sleeve, knows how to defend, need I go on.
cherrydragon
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10:14am Wed 3 Oct 12
This is not a club, this is a farce!
Afcbpete
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10:23am Wed 3 Oct 12
molbol wrote:Do you have any word about who might replace Groves? and will Brooks and young Tom be going as well?
Mike Oxbig wrote:I'm sure you realise i can hardly publicise that, can i?
molbol wrote:How do you know this?
DansAFCB wrote:Patience Dans - All will become clear soon enough mate, just watch this space.
molbol wrote:Very strange there is no news this morning, only from last night. You sure that he is gone. I have to say that I reckon the Echo boys are at the stadium hence no news!!!!!!!?
He wont , or put better, didn't get the chance to. Groves is a goner!
GROVES YOU ARE A DISGRACE. "I won't quit" you pig headed jerk!!!!!! Now Fu@k off!!!!!
These things take time; something PG has finally run out of.
Let's just say he has 'Maxed' out his welcome.....
Your dreams will soon become reality Mike, trust me.
sussexcherry
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10:31am Wed 3 Oct 12
devon fan
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10:34am Wed 3 Oct 12
Any hole's a goal
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10:36am Wed 3 Oct 12
om/watch?v=zg_lPJ8hH
P0
THIS
Eddie's dog
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10:41am Wed 3 Oct 12
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
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10:52am Wed 3 Oct 12
Piston_Broke wrote:For me it has to be either BILLY DAVIS or GLENN HODDLE if either of them are in the slightest bit interested in taking on this shambles. Jamie Redknapp would be the dream appointment, but sadly, no chance of that.
cherrychris75 wrote:Sorry, but I don't get the clamour for Cotterill. Useless at Pompey, useless at Forest. And anyone suggesting Steve Kean should be locked away in St. Anne's indefinitely.
molbol wrote:Hi again Molbol!! I think your right, but wouldnt it be funny if he sacked PG and put Tom in as Caretaker Manager!!
paulhanlon wrote:Not at all - as you will discover very soon. He won't quit so the decision has been made for him.
molbol wrote:is this speculation?
YafcbY wrote:He's been sacked, trust!
Thought the headline read "I quit."
The heart skipped a beat then!
Please quit Mr Groves.
Wait for the echos 'breaking news' if you don't believe me.
My hope is Steve Cotterill, local and can start straight away
My shout would be Phil Brown. I accept he had a nightmare at PNE, but that'll only make him more determined. He doesn't suffer fools, wears his heart on his sleeve, knows how to defend, need I go on.
Square Old Codger
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10:52am Wed 3 Oct 12
Piston_Broke wrote:That thought had occured to me, but to succeed in Russia - you have both to be very tough and clever ( and know some very nasty people!!) and wouldn't recommend "ripping" them off, it could well be detrimental to your health. A good friend of mine, a Dutchman, did business in Russia and he had some great stories to tell. .
Square Old Codger wrote: Groves is either "thick" or in self denial, listening to him on Solent last night and again this morning , he's still maintaining that we are playing well - but not taking the chances. The Club is rotten from top to bottom and it needs a complete clear out of the entire Management, the Mitchell's and their entourage, including Blake, professional Management brought in and with that some financial control established. The only one that can do that is Demin. As things are I fear that the Club will be back in Adminstration next year, it must be losing money hand over fist, wildly overspending and with income falling, it would be interesting to know whether Mitchell has spent the entire £6m yet? If Groves is still in situ for the Orient match - then a total boycott would be appropriate. It would certainly concentrate minds - both at the Football League and just maybe Max Demin's - the problem is that we just don't know whether he has any real interest in the Club - he might just put in a Reciever and recover what he can of his monies. As an aside I was watching the Man U game last night, sound off - listening to the Cherries, when I thought that I saw Eddie Mitchell - it wasn't , just the Manager of Cluj, the man from Trans Sylvania, was his double. Any one else see the resemblence. .I'm beginning to wonder if this whole sorry mess is quite simply a case of Mitchell fleecing Demin. Along came a gullible "investor", and the Mitchell clan have prospered. There is no way on earth that a League One club could support the Mitchell family lifestyle under normal circumstances, and Seven Developments certainly isn't.
lofty1971
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10:53am Wed 3 Oct 12
Groves and Brookes back to the youth coaching and a new manager with Rofe as assistant.
How's that for an idea?
cheeriedriteup
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10:58am Wed 3 Oct 12
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:The rumour of Mitchell talking to Ashley Vickers are circulating
Piston_Broke wrote:For me it has to be either BILLY DAVIS or GLENN HODDLE if either of them are in the slightest bit interested in taking on this shambles. Jamie Redknapp would be the dream appointment, but sadly, no chance of that.
cherrychris75 wrote:Sorry, but I don't get the clamour for Cotterill. Useless at Pompey, useless at Forest. And anyone suggesting Steve Kean should be locked away in St. Anne's indefinitely.
molbol wrote:Hi again Molbol!! I think your right, but wouldnt it be funny if he sacked PG and put Tom in as Caretaker Manager!!
paulhanlon wrote:Not at all - as you will discover very soon. He won't quit so the decision has been made for him.
molbol wrote:is this speculation?
YafcbY wrote:He's been sacked, trust!
Thought the headline read "I quit."
The heart skipped a beat then!
Please quit Mr Groves.
Wait for the echos 'breaking news' if you don't believe me.
My hope is Steve Cotterill, local and can start straight away
My shout would be Phil Brown. I accept he had a nightmare at PNE, but that'll only make him more determined. He doesn't suffer fools, wears his heart on his sleeve, knows how to defend, need I go on.
coops1965
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10:59am Wed 3 Oct 12
Eddy Mitchell really needs to take a long look at himself and make the right decision for our club.
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
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11:03am Wed 3 Oct 12
cheeriedriteup wrote:WHO.????????????????
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:The rumour of Mitchell talking to Ashley Vickers are circulating
Piston_Broke wrote:For me it has to be either BILLY DAVIS or GLENN HODDLE if either of them are in the slightest bit interested in taking on this shambles. Jamie Redknapp would be the dream appointment, but sadly, no chance of that.
cherrychris75 wrote:Sorry, but I don't get the clamour for Cotterill. Useless at Pompey, useless at Forest. And anyone suggesting Steve Kean should be locked away in St. Anne's indefinitely.
molbol wrote:Hi again Molbol!! I think your right, but wouldnt it be funny if he sacked PG and put Tom in as Caretaker Manager!!
paulhanlon wrote:Not at all - as you will discover very soon. He won't quit so the decision has been made for him.
molbol wrote:is this speculation?
YafcbY wrote:He's been sacked, trust!
Thought the headline read "I quit."
The heart skipped a beat then!
Please quit Mr Groves.
Wait for the echos 'breaking news' if you don't believe me.
My hope is Steve Cotterill, local and can start straight away
My shout would be Phil Brown. I accept he had a nightmare at PNE, but that'll only make him more determined. He doesn't suffer fools, wears his heart on his sleeve, knows how to defend, need I go on.
????????
coops1965
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11:07am Wed 3 Oct 12
norwood70
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11:09am Wed 3 Oct 12
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:The ex manager of Dorchester Town, currently managing Blackfield & Langley F.C in the Wessex Premier League!!
cheeriedriteup wrote:WHO.???????????????? ????????STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:The rumour of Mitchell talking to Ashley Vickers are circulatingPiston_Broke wrote:For me it has to be either BILLY DAVIS or GLENN HODDLE if either of them are in the slightest bit interested in taking on this shambles. Jamie Redknapp would be the dream appointment, but sadly, no chance of that.cherrychris75 wrote:Sorry, but I don't get the clamour for Cotterill. Useless at Pompey, useless at Forest. And anyone suggesting Steve Kean should be locked away in St. Anne's indefinitely. My shout would be Phil Brown. I accept he had a nightmare at PNE, but that'll only make him more determined. He doesn't suffer fools, wears his heart on his sleeve, knows how to defend, need I go on.molbol wrote:Hi again Molbol!! I think your right, but wouldnt it be funny if he sacked PG and put Tom in as Caretaker Manager!! My hope is Steve Cotterill, local and can start straight awaypaulhanlon wrote:Not at all - as you will discover very soon. He won't quit so the decision has been made for him. Wait for the echos 'breaking news' if you don't believe me.molbol wrote:is this speculation?YafcbY wrote: Thought the headline read "I quit." The heart skipped a beat then! Please quit Mr Groves.He's been sacked, trust!
coops1965
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11:09am Wed 3 Oct 12
Cookie Jar
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11:09am Wed 3 Oct 12
Redknapp
Brown
Curbishley
One of these four would be ideal signings for me! All know how to score, all know how to defend. H,R & C have all managed top flight clubs and have great experience and contacts!
Some on here may see these as ridiculous suggestions. But the way I see it, is the fact that if we are going to be paying huge wages for players then you need someone who has, 'been there done that', to steer the ship and lead from the front!
cheeriedriteup
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11:10am Wed 3 Oct 12
Football banning order yob
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11:18am Wed 3 Oct 12
norwood70 wrote:Another Mitchell yes man
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:The ex manager of Dorchester Town, currently managing Blackfield & Langley F.C in the Wessex Premier League!!
cheeriedriteup wrote:WHO.???????????????? ????????STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:The rumour of Mitchell talking to Ashley Vickers are circulatingPiston_Broke wrote:For me it has to be either BILLY DAVIS or GLENN HODDLE if either of them are in the slightest bit interested in taking on this shambles. Jamie Redknapp would be the dream appointment, but sadly, no chance of that.cherrychris75 wrote:Sorry, but I don't get the clamour for Cotterill. Useless at Pompey, useless at Forest. And anyone suggesting Steve Kean should be locked away in St. Anne's indefinitely. My shout would be Phil Brown. I accept he had a nightmare at PNE, but that'll only make him more determined. He doesn't suffer fools, wears his heart on his sleeve, knows how to defend, need I go on.molbol wrote:Hi again Molbol!! I think your right, but wouldnt it be funny if he sacked PG and put Tom in as Caretaker Manager!! My hope is Steve Cotterill, local and can start straight awaypaulhanlon wrote:Not at all - as you will discover very soon. He won't quit so the decision has been made for him. Wait for the echos 'breaking news' if you don't believe me.molbol wrote:is this speculation?YafcbY wrote: Thought the headline read "I quit." The heart skipped a beat then! Please quit Mr Groves.He's been sacked, trust!
goodoldecho
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11:22am Wed 3 Oct 12
archerscherries
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11:24am Wed 3 Oct 12
If, and it's still a big if, PG is sacked. EM has no option but to go for a reputable manager after this major backfire. There's no way he'd risk it again on an unproven manager (note, Vickers) so I wouldn't worry too much about that.
I'm still unconvinced PG is even going to be sacked.
cheeriedriteup
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11:24am Wed 3 Oct 12
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
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11:25am Wed 3 Oct 12
Cookie Jar wrote:When you consider all the wasted compensation money payed to failed managers-Bradbury, Groves and all the backrrom staff we could easily have afforded any of the above mentioned names. False economy springs to mind!!!. John Ward did a pretty good job at Colchester under difficult circumstances, but he got the boot recently.
Hoddle
Redknapp
Brown
Curbishley
One of these four would be ideal signings for me! All know how to score, all know how to defend. H,R & C have all managed top flight clubs and have great experience and contacts!
Some on here may see these as ridiculous suggestions. But the way I see it, is the fact that if we are going to be paying huge wages for players then you need someone who has, 'been there done that', to steer the ship and lead from the front!
norwood70
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11:32am Wed 3 Oct 12
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:John ward got sacked at Colchester as they hadnt won a game all season. They get rid of him then win there next two games. Why would he be the answers to bmths problems?
Cookie Jar wrote:When you consider all the wasted compensation money payed to failed managers-Bradbury, Groves and all the backrrom staff we could easily have afforded any of the above mentioned names. False economy springs to mind!!!. John Ward did a pretty good job at Colchester under difficult circumstances, but he got the boot recently.
Hoddle
Redknapp
Brown
Curbishley
One of these four would be ideal signings for me! All know how to score, all know how to defend. H,R & C have all managed top flight clubs and have great experience and contacts!
Some on here may see these as ridiculous suggestions. But the way I see it, is the fact that if we are going to be paying huge wages for players then you need someone who has, 'been there done that', to steer the ship and lead from the front!
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
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11:40am Wed 3 Oct 12
YafcbY wrote:Groves is dispicable, hanging around for a pay-off when he has achieved naff-all for the club. Absolutely disgraceful, he should be to embarrased to take another penny from this club, but some people just have no class.
Thought the headline read "I quit."
The heart skipped a beat then!
Please quit Mr Groves.
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
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11:50am Wed 3 Oct 12
norwood70 wrote:Never suggested he was the answer to our problem. Was making the point that Colchester got rid of him despite the fact he wasn,t doing much worst than Groves. I have already posted my preferred candidates for the job.
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:John ward got sacked at Colchester as they hadnt won a game all season. They get rid of him then win there next two games. Why would he be the answers to bmths problems?
Cookie Jar wrote:When you consider all the wasted compensation money payed to failed managers-Bradbury, Groves and all the backrrom staff we could easily have afforded any of the above mentioned names. False economy springs to mind!!!. John Ward did a pretty good job at Colchester under difficult circumstances, but he got the boot recently.
Hoddle
Redknapp
Brown
Curbishley
One of these four would be ideal signings for me! All know how to score, all know how to defend. H,R & C have all managed top flight clubs and have great experience and contacts!
Some on here may see these as ridiculous suggestions. But the way I see it, is the fact that if we are going to be paying huge wages for players then you need someone who has, 'been there done that', to steer the ship and lead from the front!
Mike Oxbig
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11:54am Wed 3 Oct 12
cheeriedriteup wrote:Exacccccctly.
An ex Dorchester Town manager by all accounts, currently at Blackfield and Langley - who are they????????
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
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11:56am Wed 3 Oct 12
Piston_Broke
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11:58am Wed 3 Oct 12
Cookie Jar wrote:Phil Brown also took Hull City to the PL. And from your list of 4, 3 of them are out of the question! Although, during his rant on Saturday, EM did say "I could have employed Glenn Hoddle".
Hoddle
Redknapp
Brown
Curbishley
One of these four would be ideal signings for me! All know how to score, all know how to defend. H,R & C have all managed top flight clubs and have great experience and contacts!
Some on here may see these as ridiculous suggestions. But the way I see it, is the fact that if we are going to be paying huge wages for players then you need someone who has, 'been there done that', to steer the ship and lead from the front!
DansAFCB
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12:05pm Wed 3 Oct 12
GROVES OUT
AFCBENJI
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12:12pm Wed 3 Oct 12
Mike Oxbig
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12:18pm Wed 3 Oct 12
AFCBENJI wrote:What is the difference in going to watch Poole Town play than going to watch the Scummers play?
Anyone fancy ditching this Mitchell era and going to see Poole Town FC, so far this season they've played 6 games won 5 and drawn 1.......No defeats! Apparently they play as a team and respect there manager!!!!!
TedMacsCherryPants
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12:23pm Wed 3 Oct 12
AFCBENJI wrote:That's an outrageous suggestion!!!
Anyone fancy ditching this Mitchell era and going to see Poole Town FC, so far this season they've played 6 games won 5 and drawn 1.......No defeats! Apparently they play as a team and respect there manager!!!!!
I'm off to Wimborne Town, save a bit of petrol money!!!
& I repeat..........
Groves out!
Brookes out!
FIFA-Tom out!!!!!!!!
KENROY
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12:24pm Wed 3 Oct 12
Groves Brookes and Tom Mitchell have built a very weak, lack lustre team with no bottle, where are the hard men, fighters who are willing to die for AFCB? Like we have always had in the past such as Willo, Eddie Howe, Fletcher, Robinson. Nobody players or supporters understand his tactics and his training staff do not seem able to eliminate defensive errors or create good crosses, set pieces or score goals these are the basics for any team and we do not seem able to do this in spite of the largest backroom staff in this league and the best training ground. Groves keeps saying he needs time to build a team WHY? When other teams IE Charlton last season and Portsmouth this season were built from scratch and in the case of Portsmouth with no money both doing better than us.
We do have some good players ie Francis, Cook, Zubar, Daniels at the back, Pugh, Grabban, and Moseley and Davids in midfield. Thomas,Tubbs, Demouge and Barnard up front some of these have to prove themselves but they do not seem to be motivated to play for 90 minutes or put in the effort needed to win games and some like Davids and Demouge do not seem fit?
The rest of the squad are either too young or inexperienced to make the first team ie Parkinson, Carmichael, O Kane, Arter, Sheringham, Strugnall, Stockley Fogden these should all be development squad with the rest of the youth and they should be in a proper reserve team that play competitive football every week to improve their competitive spirit and as a bonus that the fans can come and them to give them a good atmosphere to play in as in previous seasons
The old men currently making the team may be useful for their experience or as a stopgap if they keep fit but James Purches, Fletcher and Hughes should retire at the end of this season
We should get rid now Gregory, MacDonald, Addison, McQuoid, Elphick, Flahaven, Jalal, Bowles, and McDermott these do not have the quality, stamina, fighting spirit or the effort needed to play for AFCB.
AFCBENJI
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12:29pm Wed 3 Oct 12
Mike Oxbig wrote:I was born in Poole?
AFCBENJI wrote:What is the difference in going to watch Poole Town play than going to watch the Scummers play?
Anyone fancy ditching this Mitchell era and going to see Poole Town FC, so far this season they've played 6 games won 5 and drawn 1.......No defeats! Apparently they play as a team and respect there manager!!!!!
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
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12:29pm Wed 3 Oct 12
Mike Oxbig wrote:Do you really need an answer to that Mike.???.Many afcb fans live in the Poole area, are you likening them to scummers???. I would certainly consider watching Poole for the forseeable future until Mitchell sorts out this shambles at DC.
AFCBENJI wrote:What is the difference in going to watch Poole Town play than going to watch the Scummers play?
Anyone fancy ditching this Mitchell era and going to see Poole Town FC, so far this season they've played 6 games won 5 and drawn 1.......No defeats! Apparently they play as a team and respect there manager!!!!!
Afcbpete
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12:38pm Wed 3 Oct 12
Piston_Broke
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12:40pm Wed 3 Oct 12
cherrychris75
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12:42pm Wed 3 Oct 12
The Renegade Master
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12:46pm Wed 3 Oct 12
And not a minute too soon!
Now listen for once Mitchell, appoint someone with experience who can sort this mess out. NO MORE CHEAP OPTIONS!
molbol
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12:49pm Wed 3 Oct 12
cherrychris75 wrote:He only obviously lasted this long (all morning) while he haggled for a deal.....
Sky 2nd to Molbol on exclusive but yes it appears he's gone
molbol
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12:50pm Wed 3 Oct 12
The Renegade Master wrote:It won't be a cheap option - But it won't be an experienced one either.....
GROVES SACKED!
And not a minute too soon!
Now listen for once Mitchell, appoint someone with experience who can sort this mess out. NO MORE CHEAP OPTIONS!
Afcbpete
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12:52pm Wed 3 Oct 12
molbol wrote:Well THAT won't bring the fans back overnight then LOL
The Renegade Master wrote:It won't be a cheap option - But it won't be an experienced one either.....
GROVES SACKED!
And not a minute too soon!
Now listen for once Mitchell, appoint someone with experience who can sort this mess out. NO MORE CHEAP OPTIONS!
AFCBENJI
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12:53pm Wed 3 Oct 12
CherryHammer
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12:56pm Wed 3 Oct 12
Bournemouth have parted company with boss Paul Groves and assistant Shaun Brooks after winning just one of their 10 league games this season.
The Cherries, who are 20th in League One with only eight points, lost 3-1 to Crawley on Tuesday.
"Paul Groves and Shaun Brooks have asked me to express their thanks to the support they have received from the fans," said chairman Eddie Mitchell.
"We wish them well in the future, and who knows where that will take them."
More to follow.
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
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12:56pm Wed 3 Oct 12
stevobath
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2:40pm Wed 3 Oct 12
Rich1978 wrote:I said end f October too bt the results have been so bad.Surely h will be sacked? Does Mitchel & Co want AFC to go out of business? Ony thing Groves done wll wasgetting arnad in.Our best signing! DEMOUGE INJURED AGAIN?DODGY KNEES???? WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY
Surely enough is enough. I said give him until the end of October, but expected some success along the way. It hasn't happened and that just shows inexperience.
I'm sure he's a really nice guy and everyone should remember that you're playing with someone's livelihood if he gets sacked. Move him back to the youth setup and get a decent manager.
I may not go to the next home game. Money is tight and I'm really get sick of paying to watch a team with no formation and no idea how to score goals and win games. Sorry AFCB, but enough is enough.
It as though these people WANT to run the club into the ground.The only thing is--who do we get in? Harry is'nt interested & must have an eye on QPR?
I think we need a Mick McCarthy type.Hes a bit'dour',but has a great record.
BTW Echo.PLEASE sort this site out.
molbol says...
11:33pm Tue 2 Oct 12