Cherries: Davids keen to make amends (From Bournemouth Echo)

Lets hope for a positive result, lets ignore lifes moaners and SUPPORT the team UTCIAD

Time for talking has now long gone, either put up or shut up time!! We keep getting told by one player after another how they owe us something, well why not actually deliver on that promise, I for one am fed up with all the rhetoric, I was there Saturday and it was a very poor display, don't agree with Davids being man of the match either, he only lasted 10 minutes!!! Tonight there needs to be a vast improvement on the weekend, I don't think under Groves they are capable, I want to be proven wrong!! I will of course as always cheer the lads on but enough of the talking games up, go out and do it on the pitch please!!!

Yes, I think we all want a positive result, but a different one to yours.
What we all want is Dumb and Dumber out with Mitchell Jnr gone as well, then the rest of the Cancerous Mitchell clan booted out by the Russians
Now that would be POSITIVE

the afcb fan wrote:
Lets hope for a positive result, lets ignore lifes moaners and SUPPORT the team UTCIAD

so you want to ignore Mitchells dog then do you? the moaners as you call them have every right to vent their anger after all that has gone before this season, do not just off hand people who are life long cherries fans!!!

the afcb fan wrote:
Lets hope for a positive result, lets ignore lifes moaners and SUPPORT the team UTCIAD

I am sure when there is a fly in your soup you just go right ahead and eat it eh, rather than complain to the chef.

It's gone past the point of hoping for the best, change is necessary for the good of the club.

Cut & paste from the AFCB site not much effort there Echo!

Looking forward to the game, I must be some sort of masochist?!

3pts please boys!!!

UTC!

I thought for the first 5 mins we'd changed the formation and actually used Davids, who, clearly reads the game well.

But no. After minute number 6 - HOOF!!!

He wasn't used after that.

Nothing wrong with the players. Thomas has proved that.

VERY POOR TACTICS, COACHING AND MANAGEMENT.

Shame on you TOM for not stepping in as 'Director of Football' and helping them !! :-)

Frankiesbackfromholl
ywood wrote:
Time for talking has now long gone, either put up or shut up time!! We keep getting told by one player after another how they owe us something, well why not actually deliver on that promise, I for one am fed up with all the rhetoric, I was there Saturday and it was a very poor display, don't agree with Davids being man of the match either, he only lasted 10 minutes!!! Tonight there needs to be a vast improvement on the weekend, I don't think under Groves they are capable, I want to be proven wrong!! I will of course as always cheer the lads on but enough of the talking games up, go out and do it on the pitch please!!!

Agreed.
Davids looked ok at times but was generally nothing special.
Carmichael showed decent touches and a footballing brain, but there are two in midfield that simply don't get it.
Barnard was sharp when he first arrived but on Saturdays performance would struggle to justify even £1200 p/wk - he's unlikely to fit back into a premiership set up on that form - nice development work Grovesy/Brooks!
Zubar was definitely man of the match - which probably means he'll be on the bench tonight.

goatty wrote:
Yes, I think we all want a positive result, but a different one to yours.
What we all want is Dumb and Dumber out with Mitchell Jnr gone as well, then the rest of the Cancerous Mitchell clan booted out by the Russians
Now that would be POSITIVE

sums you up your not interested in the football only your complaint with the mitchells.

Frankiesbackfromholl
ywood wrote:
Time for talking has now long gone, either put up or shut up time!! We keep getting told by one player after another how they owe us something, well why not actually deliver on that promise, I for one am fed up with all the rhetoric, I was there Saturday and it was a very poor display, don't agree with Davids being man of the match either, he only lasted 10 minutes!!! Tonight there needs to be a vast improvement on the weekend, I don't think under Groves they are capable, I want to be proven wrong!! I will of course as always cheer the lads on but enough of the talking games up, go out and do it on the pitch please!!!

If you are going to continue boring us ,with your banal and repetitive posts, then at least get your facts right. Zubar was man of the match, not Davids.

Frankiesbackfromholl
ywood wrote:

the afcb fan wrote:
Lets hope for a positive result, lets ignore lifes moaners and SUPPORT the team UTCIAD

so you want to ignore Mitchells dog then do you? the moaners as you call them have every right to vent their anger after all that has gone before this season, do not just off hand people who are life long cherries fans!!!

I have been going for 40 years, without the mitchells money the club would have gone bankrupt, he has brought investors in and e hav a team that has the makings of a good one, is it working at the moment no, But the protest was very small compared to those who went, and filled with troublemakers hence the throwing of the programme and the shouting down, i personally think the programme thrower should be banned for life. And if you are a life long fan ou have a very short memory as to how it was.

I think it will come to a head after our next home game.

I do wonder also how the trainers, sports scientists etc. working at the club can have the result of so many injured players?????? These backroom people are the real culprits, stopping us from playing the best team.

Let’s get back to basics shall we? When Harry was our manager we played a simple game. Defence lobs ball to big centre forward in centre circle, he nods it back down left or right to nippy midfielders, from them out to nippy wingers who could cross the ball to the big centre forward who’d nod it down for someone to boot it into the net. Luxury!

I don’t know if Mr Groves reads these messages but he’d do well to try the above for the next few games

eaststandman wrote:
I thought for the first 5 mins we'd changed the formation and actually used Davids, who, clearly reads the game well.

But no. After minute number 6 - HOOF!!!

He wasn't used after that.

Nothing wrong with the players. Thomas has proved that.

VERY POOR TACTICS, COACHING AND MANAGEMENT.

Shame on you TOM for not stepping in as 'Director of Football' and helping them !! :-)

There's certainly nothing wrong with these players at all put them all in another club and this would be proven , if Grooves had the same players as Howe they wouldn't play either, only Grooves understands his system, and if Howe had this bunch of players then we would be taking on the Championship sides. I hate the Mitchell's and what they are doing but I also feel that Tom has identified some good players but this is worth nothing in the hands of people like Bradbury or Grooves, which insider is next Matty Holmes???? my days if this turns out to be the case. Lets not dream about Harry this wont happen, he is no mug and is shrewd in the business world so the only time we see Harry in the club permenant is if he can buy it from the receivers for a quid. Finally I wonder what Tubbs will be doing tonight, I'm sure he never burnt his bridges with Crawley!!!

Can the last one out please turn off the lights.

And I think when it does come to a head, we will swap a diamond formation for a diamond geezer!

the afcb fan wrote:

Frankiesbackfromholl

ywood wrote:

the afcb fan wrote:
Lets hope for a positive result, lets ignore lifes moaners and SUPPORT the team UTCIAD

so you want to ignore Mitchells dog then do you? the moaners as you call them have every right to vent their anger after all that has gone before this season, do not just off hand people who are life long cherries fans!!!

I have been going for 40 years, without the mitchells money the club would have gone bankrupt, he has brought investors in and e hav a team that has the makings of a good one, is it working at the moment no, But the protest was very small compared to those who went, and filled with troublemakers hence the throwing of the programme and the shouting down, i personally think the programme thrower should be banned for life. And if you are a life long fan ou have a very short memory as to how it was.

I was one of the many who walked out before the match had finished, the first time in all the years I have been going!! The protest may not have been everyone but there are far more unhappy than those who were demonstrating, of course you mention the one fan who throws the programme but dismiss the foul and abusive language used my Mitchell, a great role model he has shown himself to be!! I also left early as I didn't want my son to see the anger which was the vast majority of fans, you my friend are blinkered if you think it is only a small minority that are unhappy!! Stop using the Mitchell saved us line, that was 3 years ago now and it's not like he has put in any of his own money is it? the club now has a £6 million debt, that is £2 million more than we had before we went into admin the last time, yeah great work!!! There is nothing wrong with my memory, but replacing one debt with another, don't forget the books for last season either, is hardly this new dawn for the club! The club has to get promoted to survive, it hasn't the income to sustain such a large debt, and if I like many many others want to say we have had enough then we have every right to do so!! I also notice which camp is using personal insults here, that says an enormous amount to me!!

Mike Oxbig wrote:

Frankiesbackfromholl

ywood wrote:
Time for talking has now long gone, either put up or shut up time!! We keep getting told by one player after another how they owe us something, well why not actually deliver on that promise, I for one am fed up with all the rhetoric, I was there Saturday and it was a very poor display, don't agree with Davids being man of the match either, he only lasted 10 minutes!!! Tonight there needs to be a vast improvement on the weekend, I don't think under Groves they are capable, I want to be proven wrong!! I will of course as always cheer the lads on but enough of the talking games up, go out and do it on the pitch please!!!

If you are going to continue boring us ,with your banal and repetitive posts, then at least get your facts right. Zubar was man of the match, not Davids.

What are you on about? there were two MOM's on Saturday, Davids and Zubar, so if you are going to insult me then get your facts straight!! If you don't like what I post then don't read them, I certainly wouldn't attack you in this personal manner!!

Davids didn't bring anything much to the party, he was poor in centre midfield and looks as though he rides on the reputation of his famous cousin Edgar Davids. His pathetic effort of winning the ball when they scored their second goal was very poor. Crawley will batter us tonight if our less than qualified manager doesn't fire up his players, plays the right players and motivates them to play football rather than hoof and hope! Groves please resign. I almost want us to loose so its a game closer to getting rid of the whally!

I don't think it fair to judge either Davids or Demouge on Saturday's shewing, both were clearly not fit and they were only playing because of Groves panic. What does concern me more is the absence of Pugh and Grabbham, are they injured or dropped because they broke away from Groves "system" into a more attacking formation? in a game recently - the only time we looked like scoring. It also amazes me that there are still some praising Mitchell for the investment he has brought in - I though every one now was aware that Max Demin hasn't invested a rouble in the Club ( nor has Mitchell put a penny in) he has lent them £6m ( or rather one of his companies has) charging a commercial rate of interest and partially secured by charges on the Club's assets ( the next time it goes bust - he will be the only creditor to get a penny) As for the coming matches, feel that we would be lucky to get a couple of draws, Crawley are a decent team, Coventry, with their new Manager have strengthened their team and wont be a pushover. I see too that Paul Groves is claiming that the team are fully behind him, I wonder?, it's not what I have been hearing!

the afcb fan wrote:

Frankiesbackfromholl

ywood wrote:

the afcb fan wrote:
Lets hope for a positive result, lets ignore lifes moaners and SUPPORT the team UTCIAD

so you want to ignore Mitchells dog then do you? the moaners as you call them have every right to vent their anger after all that has gone before this season, do not just off hand people who are life long cherries fans!!!

I have been going for 40 years, without the mitchells money the club would have gone bankrupt, he has brought investors in and e hav a team that has the makings of a good one, is it working at the moment no, But the protest was very small compared to those who went, and filled with troublemakers hence the throwing of the programme and the shouting down, i personally think the programme thrower should be banned for life. And if you are a life long fan ou have a very short memory as to how it was.

What are you on about? Mitchell paid out the vast sum of £50. The rest is loaned. As for the investment, they are also LOANS. How many times does this need to be said before some people can actually grasp it? So here it is in two simple sentences, read carefully.

MITCHELL'S MONEY HAS NOT COME INTO THE CLUB, IT HAS ALL BEEN LOANS.
THERE'S BEEN NO INVESTMENT, ONLY LOANS.

You are right about one thing though and that is if things don't change now the club will almost certainly go bankrupt, but Mitchell will make sure he recovers his loans long before this happens.

the afcb fan wrote:

Frankiesbackfromholl

ywood wrote:

the afcb fan wrote:
Lets hope for a positive result, lets ignore lifes moaners and SUPPORT the team UTCIAD

so you want to ignore Mitchells dog then do you? the moaners as you call them have every right to vent their anger after all that has gone before this season, do not just off hand people who are life long cherries fans!!!

I have been going for 40 years, without the mitchells money the club would have gone bankrupt, he has brought investors in and e hav a team that has the makings of a good one, is it working at the moment no, But the protest was very small compared to those who went, and filled with troublemakers hence the throwing of the programme and the shouting down, i personally think the programme thrower should be banned for life. And if you are a life long fan ou have a very short memory as to how it was.

Without the Mitchells' money, the club would have gone bankrupt. PMSL!
Without selling the team that Eddie Howe built/inherited, the club would have been insolvent. If EM had put money in, or found a friendly loan arranger then, we'd not have had to sell that team, Eddie Howe may well have taken us up, and we would already have achieved the goal the current chairman tells us is necessary to justify the "investment" Demin has lent us at 6%. The only difference is that we now owe £6m+, with no hope of promotion, where it used to be £4m and a team capable of going up. And you think he's doing a good job?

I really wanted to go to this match but I have lost my ambition - a bit like the players. Difference is, they get 1000 quid a week to play badly ...

cherrydragon wrote:
I really wanted to go to this match but I have lost my ambition - a bit like the players. Difference is, they get 1000 quid a week to play badly ...

Keep the faith CherryD, come the glorious revolution and it will come the players will need to know that we the supporters are onside!

UTCIAD

Frankiesbackfromholl
ywood wrote:

Mike Oxbig wrote:

Frankiesbackfromholl


ywood wrote:
Time for talking has now long gone, either put up or shut up time!! We keep getting told by one player after another how they owe us something, well why not actually deliver on that promise, I for one am fed up with all the rhetoric, I was there Saturday and it was a very poor display, don't agree with Davids being man of the match either, he only lasted 10 minutes!!! Tonight there needs to be a vast improvement on the weekend, I don't think under Groves they are capable, I want to be proven wrong!! I will of course as always cheer the lads on but enough of the talking games up, go out and do it on the pitch please!!!

If you are going to continue boring us ,with your banal and repetitive posts, then at least get your facts right. Zubar was man of the match, not Davids.

What are you on about? there were two MOM's on Saturday, Davids and Zubar, so if you are going to insult me then get your facts straight!! If you don't like what I post then don't read them, I certainly wouldn't attack you in this personal manner!!

The two MOM's announced are the player voted for on the texts by fans and the sponsors MOM.

You need to get your facts right before you post.

I fear for us tonight after the way we have been playing. We need a huge improvement just to scrape a draw....which, in fact would be a good result. I can't see it happening though. Good morning Wayne!!

Square Old Codger wrote:
I don't think it fair to judge either Davids or Demouge on Saturday's shewing, both were clearly not fit and they were only playing because of Groves panic. What does concern me more is the absence of Pugh and Grabbham, are they injured or dropped because they broke away from Groves "system" into a more attacking formation? in a game recently - the only time we looked like scoring. It also amazes me that there are still some praising Mitchell for the investment he has brought in - I though every one now was aware that Max Demin hasn't invested a rouble in the Club ( nor has Mitchell put a penny in) he has lent them £6m ( or rather one of his companies has) charging a commercial rate of interest and partially secured by charges on the Club's assets ( the next time it goes bust - he will be the only creditor to get a penny) As for the coming matches, feel that we would be lucky to get a couple of draws, Crawley are a decent team, Coventry, with their new Manager have strengthened their team and wont be a pushover. I see too that Paul Groves is claiming that the team are fully behind him, I wonder?, it's not what I have been hearing!

Grabban was an unused sub on Saturday.

With Demouge and Davids having been out so long they would really have needed 2/3 reserve games to get back to match sharpness. Usually behind close doors friendlies are arranged. Did both play in the recent under 21 games?

It must have felt more like a pre-season friendly for them so I agree that too much was expected of them.

I also thought that the gloss came off Davids performance after 10 minutes and he was guilty of not clearing the ball for their winner. No one played close off Demouge so all his headed flicks were wasted.

For two guys playing there first league game after long injuries, I think it was madness to keep them both on for 90 odd minutes and the subs bench should have been earmarked for them both to be replaced after 70 minutes max.

That's my opinion from watching football for over 50 years.

I predict a big defeat tonight - Oh? what's that nurse? yes, my injection. Thank you. I predict a 1-0 win tonight.

TedMacsCherryPants wrote:

cherrydragon wrote:
I really wanted to go to this match but I have lost my ambition - a bit like the players. Difference is, they get 1000 quid a week to play badly ...

Keep the faith CherryD, come the glorious revolution and it will come the players will need to know that we the supporters are onside!

UTCIAD

I think you will find that you slightly underestimate how much some of them actually get paid and that's perhaps one of the reasons why the players in the dressing room are not united. Allegedly some players were signed when there was a cap on salaries at the club and then it was lifted which mean't that players who signed after them were on far greater sums of money. If this is true you can understand that some feel hard done by but having said that they were happy to sign for an agreed sum at the time of signing and should therefore be man enough to do exactly what they are paid for and that is to give 110% for the shirt! Is this why Thomas was loaned out to Pompey. I was told, allegedly, that Davids is on around £5000 a week and if this is true how much are some of the other players on who have signed recently? Having said that, all the players earn far in excess of what your average supporter does for doing something, hopefully, they enjoy so now its down to Groves and Brooks to sought it out and quick. In previous posts I said give them to Xmas but with the disastrous results along with dire lack lustre performances I have now changed this to the next 6 games. 12 points from 18 and no less or get rid. Eddie Howe is under pressure at Burnley and rumours persist he will get the chop and soon. Is this why Groves and Brooks haven't gone yet? If Howe is sacked and returned there would be no compensation to pay Burnley.

the afcb fan wrote:

Frankiesbackfromholl

ywood wrote:

the afcb fan wrote:
Lets hope for a positive result, lets ignore lifes moaners and SUPPORT the team UTCIAD

so you want to ignore Mitchells dog then do you? the moaners as you call them have every right to vent their anger after all that has gone before this season, do not just off hand people who are life long cherries fans!!!

I have been going for 40 years, without the mitchells money the club would have gone bankrupt, he has brought investors in and e hav a team that has the makings of a good one, is it working at the moment no, But the protest was very small compared to those who went, and filled with troublemakers hence the throwing of the programme and the shouting down, i personally think the programme thrower should be banned for life. And if you are a life long fan ou have a very short memory as to how it was.

Was it you shouting 'Eddie I love you' deluded fool.

Not much to add to these posts other than comparing a similar situation at QPR discussed on Talksport today. The journalist was pointing out the problems caused by 'top loading' ie bringing in 12 players and paying high salaries in an attempt to achieve success. And the result? apparently, in every game played so far QPR look like a team that has never played together before - and thereby lies of our many problems

The difference between Crawley and AFCB is that they play as a team and are on the way up and AFCB are a bunch of individuals with no leadership, poor coaching and an inept clown for a manager. Under Groves AFCB will continue to be a team on the way down.
Like many here, I don't want my team to lose tonight. If they play with style and win the game comfortably that would be great, but unfortunately I believe we will get another stuffing. Then what? Another vote of confidence from the Fuhrer? If we get a pasting at Coventry at the weekend will that be followed by another vote of confidence while we prop up the table?
Sorry, but another poor performance and defeat tonight has to mean that Mitchell sacks Dumb & Dumber.

the afcb fan wrote:

Frankiesbackfromholl

ywood wrote:

the afcb fan wrote:
Lets hope for a positive result, lets ignore lifes moaners and SUPPORT the team UTCIAD

so you want to ignore Mitchells dog then do you? the moaners as you call them have every right to vent their anger after all that has gone before this season, do not just off hand people who are life long cherries fans!!!

I have been going for 40 years, without the mitchells money the club would have gone bankrupt, he has brought investors in and e hav a team that has the makings of a good one, is it working at the moment no, But the protest was very small compared to those who went, and filled with troublemakers hence the throwing of the programme and the shouting down, i personally think the programme thrower should be banned for life. And if you are a life long fan ou have a very short memory as to how it was.

I've been supporting AFCB since 1958 home and away so a bit longer than you.

I also watch football other than AFCB so I don't have a blinkered view and I am not related to or thankfully know any of the Mitchell's

I've also played local football for 15 years and coached teenagers.

I appreciate that we have had more injuries than normal but we have such a large well paid squad that other players should be expected to come to the plate when called upon rather than just pick up their pay cheque each week.

The last 3 games have been on a par with the dire dross served up in the Benson era.

We have spent big but Edmund has installed a manager with a win rate of now less than 20%. So history says that Groves will win 10 games this year which is 30 points. In my opinion with Groves and Brooks we will be relegated although Pompey's -10 deduction might save us.

Edmund showed poor judgement in appointing Bradbury and even worse with Groves but his judgement may have been clouded in finding a role for Shaun Brooks as assistant manager, (he was his manager at Dorchester Town) and also keeping his son Tom on as Director of Football as no football manager worth their salt would contemplate having a working football relationship with such a greenhorn.

So afcb fan before you post extolling the virtues of Edmund get yourself a copy of the July 2010 AFCB A/cs and those of Black Label Events then you might appreciate why the Mitchell family have been bad news for AFCB.

If Max Demin is here for a long ride and obviously has money to invest, wh Edmund and little Tom are wasting his legacy at the moment, then Max should buy out Edmund and his wife's shares and persuade someone with football knowledge such as Harry Redknapp to come in and take us forward.

The heart of this club are the fans not Mitchell and his family and he's stolen it. Soon it will stop beating.

This club used to be a decent family club. It's now a Mitchell circus.

B'mth 56 wrote:

TedMacsCherryPants wrote:

cherrydragon wrote:
I really wanted to go to this match but I have lost my ambition - a bit like the players. Difference is, they get 1000 quid a week to play badly ...

Keep the faith CherryD, come the glorious revolution and it will come the players will need to know that we the supporters are onside!

UTCIAD

I think you will find that you slightly underestimate how much some of them actually get paid and that's perhaps one of the reasons why the players in the dressing room are not united. Allegedly some players were signed when there was a cap on salaries at the club and then it was lifted which mean't that players who signed after them were on far greater sums of money. If this is true you can understand that some feel hard done by but having said that they were happy to sign for an agreed sum at the time of signing and should therefore be man enough to do exactly what they are paid for and that is to give 110% for the shirt! Is this why Thomas was loaned out to Pompey. I was told, allegedly, that Davids is on around £5000 a week and if this is true how much are some of the other players on who have signed recently? Having said that, all the players earn far in excess of what your average supporter does for doing something, hopefully, they enjoy so now its down to Groves and Brooks to sought it out and quick. In previous posts I said give them to Xmas but with the disastrous results along with dire lack lustre performances I have now changed this to the next 6 games. 12 points from 18 and no less or get rid. Eddie Howe is under pressure at Burnley and rumours persist he will get the chop and soon. Is this why Groves and Brooks haven't gone yet? If Howe is sacked and returned there would be no compensation to pay Burnley.

I have been told that Demouge is on £7500 per week.

If this is true what planet are we on.

Look at how we were outplayed by Walsall's young lads.

lionheart wrote:

B'mth 56 wrote:

TedMacsCherryPants wrote:

cherrydragon wrote: I really wanted to go to this match but I have lost my ambition - a bit like the players. Difference is, they get 1000 quid a week to play badly ...

Keep the faith CherryD, come the glorious revolution and it will come the players will need to know that we the supporters are onside! UTCIAD

I think you will find that you slightly underestimate how much some of them actually get paid and that's perhaps one of the reasons why the players in the dressing room are not united. Allegedly some players were signed when there was a cap on salaries at the club and then it was lifted which mean't that players who signed after them were on far greater sums of money. If this is true you can understand that some feel hard done by but having said that they were happy to sign for an agreed sum at the time of signing and should therefore be man enough to do exactly what they are paid for and that is to give 110% for the shirt! Is this why Thomas was loaned out to Pompey. I was told, allegedly, that Davids is on around £5000 a week and if this is true how much are some of the other players on who have signed recently? Having said that, all the players earn far in excess of what your average supporter does for doing something, hopefully, they enjoy so now its down to Groves and Brooks to sought it out and quick. In previous posts I said give them to Xmas but with the disastrous results along with dire lack lustre performances I have now changed this to the next 6 games. 12 points from 18 and no less or get rid. Eddie Howe is under pressure at Burnley and rumours persist he will get the chop and soon. Is this why Groves and Brooks haven't gone yet? If Howe is sacked and returned there would be no compensation to pay Burnley.

I have been told that Demouge is on £7500 per week. If this is true what planet are we on. Look at how we were outplayed by Walsall's young lads.

As I pointed out last week - young lads from the youth system and released by local black country teams with a desire to succeed and prove their previous clubs wrong. Many of these players are spotted using a close local SCOUTING NETWOK

Bring back jo roach, steve gritt etc and get rid of half the current bloated squad

And £7500 a week??? what is the dutchman adding that Fletcher cannot do? Where is Fletch?

It's time the players start to play like the superstars their pay packets tell them they are. I'm no Groves fan but if he hasn't lost the dressing room then it's time for the lads to start repaying some of their salaries. If Groves has lost them the next two games (with two losses) must see him resign. I don't think Harry will want to take over permanantly (he's waiting on QPR sacking Hughes) but will give some great ideas on who to appoint.

If the number and cost of our players are too much, plus home support dwindling, we could be getting into financial difficulties - bring in the Football League 'beancounters' now!

I can see real potential in demouge and davids but they were clearly not match fit and playing them for ninety minutes again highlighted that groves cannot operate as a manager. Good coach and probably a nice guy but not a manager who can lead us to anything except relegation.

Eddie's dog wrote:
If the number and cost of our players are too much, plus home support dwindling, we could be getting into financial difficulties - bring in the Football League 'beancounters' now!

Given the rules about a clubs salary bill as a proportion to income, should The FA be investigating this already?

Luffbracherry wrote:

lionheart wrote:

B'mth 56 wrote:

TedMacsCherryPants wrote:

cherrydragon wrote: I really wanted to go to this match but I have lost my ambition - a bit like the players. Difference is, they get 1000 quid a week to play badly ...

Keep the faith CherryD, come the glorious revolution and it will come the players will need to know that we the supporters are onside! UTCIAD

I think you will find that you slightly underestimate how much some of them actually get paid and that's perhaps one of the reasons why the players in the dressing room are not united. Allegedly some players were signed when there was a cap on salaries at the club and then it was lifted which mean't that players who signed after them were on far greater sums of money. If this is true you can understand that some feel hard done by but having said that they were happy to sign for an agreed sum at the time of signing and should therefore be man enough to do exactly what they are paid for and that is to give 110% for the shirt! Is this why Thomas was loaned out to Pompey. I was told, allegedly, that Davids is on around £5000 a week and if this is true how much are some of the other players on who have signed recently? Having said that, all the players earn far in excess of what your average supporter does for doing something, hopefully, they enjoy so now its down to Groves and Brooks to sought it out and quick. In previous posts I said give them to Xmas but with the disastrous results along with dire lack lustre performances I have now changed this to the next 6 games. 12 points from 18 and no less or get rid. Eddie Howe is under pressure at Burnley and rumours persist he will get the chop and soon. Is this why Groves and Brooks haven't gone yet? If Howe is sacked and returned there would be no compensation to pay Burnley.

I have been told that Demouge is on £7500 per week. If this is true what planet are we on. Look at how we were outplayed by Walsall's young lads.

As I pointed out last week - young lads from the youth system and released by local black country teams with a desire to succeed and prove their previous clubs wrong. Many of these players are spotted using a close local SCOUTING NETWOK Bring back jo roach, steve gritt etc and get rid of half the current bloated squad And £7500 a week??? what is the dutchman adding that Fletcher cannot do? Where is Fletch?

Have we ever seen Fletch n Tubbsy together yet???

TedMacsCherryPants wrote:

Luffbracherry wrote:

lionheart wrote:

B'mth 56 wrote:

TedMacsCherryPants wrote:

cherrydragon wrote: I really wanted to go to this match but I have lost my ambition - a bit like the players. Difference is, they get 1000 quid a week to play badly ...

Keep the faith CherryD, come the glorious revolution and it will come the players will need to know that we the supporters are onside! UTCIAD

I think you will find that you slightly underestimate how much some of them actually get paid and that's perhaps one of the reasons why the players in the dressing room are not united. Allegedly some players were signed when there was a cap on salaries at the club and then it was lifted which mean't that players who signed after them were on far greater sums of money. If this is true you can understand that some feel hard done by but having said that they were happy to sign for an agreed sum at the time of signing and should therefore be man enough to do exactly what they are paid for and that is to give 110% for the shirt! Is this why Thomas was loaned out to Pompey. I was told, allegedly, that Davids is on around £5000 a week and if this is true how much are some of the other players on who have signed recently? Having said that, all the players earn far in excess of what your average supporter does for doing something, hopefully, they enjoy so now its down to Groves and Brooks to sought it out and quick. In previous posts I said give them to Xmas but with the disastrous results along with dire lack lustre performances I have now changed this to the next 6 games. 12 points from 18 and no less or get rid. Eddie Howe is under pressure at Burnley and rumours persist he will get the chop and soon. Is this why Groves and Brooks haven't gone yet? If Howe is sacked and returned there would be no compensation to pay Burnley.

I have been told that Demouge is on £7500 per week. If this is true what planet are we on. Look at how we were outplayed by Walsall's young lads.

As I pointed out last week - young lads from the youth system and released by local black country teams with a desire to succeed and prove their previous clubs wrong. Many of these players are spotted using a close local SCOUTING NETWOK Bring back jo roach, steve gritt etc and get rid of half the current bloated squad And £7500 a week??? what is the dutchman adding that Fletcher cannot do? Where is Fletch?

Have we ever seen Fletch n Tubbsy together yet???

PS I say 'together' I mean playing football.

.....also Fletch is about as he's been cryogenically thawed-out for some spiel on Crawley on the AFCB Vital site.

Would like to see him on the bench tonight and if used given at least 20mins, he may help bond the team!

Then it's back to the deep-freeze for you again Supa!

canfordcherry wrote:
It's time the players start to play like the superstars their pay packets tell them they are. I'm no Groves fan but if he hasn't lost the dressing room then it's time for the lads to start repaying some of their salaries. If Groves has lost them the next two games (with two losses) must see him resign. I don't think Harry will want to take over permanantly (he's waiting on QPR sacking Hughes) but will give some great ideas on who to appoint.

No, no recommendations from Harry.

Kevin Bond was his suggestion.....

snake hips wrote:

the afcb fan wrote:

Frankiesbackfromholl


ywood wrote:

the afcb fan wrote:
Lets hope for a positive result, lets ignore lifes moaners and SUPPORT the team UTCIAD

so you want to ignore Mitchells dog then do you? the moaners as you call them have every right to vent their anger after all that has gone before this season, do not just off hand people who are life long cherries fans!!!

I have been going for 40 years, without the mitchells money the club would have gone bankrupt, he has brought investors in and e hav a team that has the makings of a good one, is it working at the moment no, But the protest was very small compared to those who went, and filled with troublemakers hence the throwing of the programme and the shouting down, i personally think the programme thrower should be banned for life. And if you are a life long fan ou have a very short memory as to how it was.

Was it you shouting 'Eddie I love you' deluded fool.

No that was the drunk Neill Blake aka Eddies **** shouting that. A drunk Chairman and now a drunk CEO and with the little coward Tom scurrying out before the final whistle it says a lot for the Board of AFCB.
Complete Circus.

Luffbracherry wrote:

Eddie's dog wrote:
If the number and cost of our players are too much, plus home support dwindling, we could be getting into financial difficulties - bring in the Football League 'beancounters' now!

Given the rules about a clubs salary bill as a proportion to income, should The FA be investigating this already?

Probably should but Demin's loan might have temporarily masqueraded the calculation.

lionheart wrote:

Frankiesbackfromholl

ywood wrote:

Mike Oxbig wrote:

Frankiesbackfromholl



ywood wrote:
Time for talking has now long gone, either put up or shut up time!! We keep getting told by one player after another how they owe us something, well why not actually deliver on that promise, I for one am fed up with all the rhetoric, I was there Saturday and it was a very poor display, don't agree with Davids being man of the match either, he only lasted 10 minutes!!! Tonight there needs to be a vast improvement on the weekend, I don't think under Groves they are capable, I want to be proven wrong!! I will of course as always cheer the lads on but enough of the talking games up, go out and do it on the pitch please!!!

If you are going to continue boring us ,with your banal and repetitive posts, then at least get your facts right. Zubar was man of the match, not Davids.

What are you on about? there were two MOM's on Saturday, Davids and Zubar, so if you are going to insult me then get your facts straight!! If you don't like what I post then don't read them, I certainly wouldn't attack you in this personal manner!!

The two MOM's announced are the player voted for on the texts by fans and the sponsors MOM.

You need to get your facts right before you post.

Sorry but I did have my facts right, I said there were two MOM awards on Saturday, so what exactly is your point here? I also am fully aware who decides the two MOM awards, so again what exactly is it that is incorrect in my post?

Stop talking about it and just do it. We all pay good money to watch you play, but for what? Nothing!

We all know you all can talk the talk, now lets put it into actuon tonite.

Next MOM should be number 99.

Oakdale12 wrote:
Stop talking about it and just do it. We all pay good money to watch you play, but for what? Nothing!

We all know you all can talk the talk, now lets put it into actuon tonite.

Next MOM should be number 99.

exactly Oakdale12, just as I was saying at 7.32am, 12 hrs later and it's still the same message!!

Just back from Crawley............D
avids if thats what you call making it up to the fans then you should catch the next flight home,you were absolute Sh-te and ought to be ashamed to wear our shirt