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Cherries: Diamonds are not forever, Paul...
7:00am Monday 17th September 2012 in Sport
By Neil Perrett
ONE step forward, two steps back.
Cherries supporters probably thought Paul Groves had struck gold with his diamond formation following the team’s slick display at Yeovil.
However, just a week later and against less accommodating opposition, a system failure saw the walls come tumbling down in their own backyard.
This latest test was always likely to be a good indicator of how Cherries would fare this season – and, alarmingly, they were found wanting.
Hartlepool boss Neale Cooper had made no secret of the fact the visitors would attempt to make life difficult for Cherries at Goldsands Stadium.
Cooper as good as volunteered his likely tactics in a pre-match interview when he said Pools would probably set up differently in a bid to stifle Cherries.
In contrast to most other managers, Cooper made his intentions as clear as crystal and laid bare his plans to try to blunt the diamond.
No wonder he was still singing from the rooftops despite seeing his side denied a classic smash-and-grab away win by Matt Tubbs' stoppage-time equaliser.
If Cherries are to be considered as genuine promotion contenders then finding a solution to break down stubborn opposition at home is going to be a must.
Criticising visitors for parking the proverbial bus by packing midfield and defending as if their lives depended on it is too easy an excuse.
Considering the vast outlay on the Cherries squad, what seems to be a work in progress should be a masterpiece, especially against modest opposition.
Groves will justifiably point to the absence of Richard Hughes, whose knowledge and experience were sorely missed at the base of the diamond.
Hughes had been pivotal in vastly-improved showings at Portsmouth in the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy and in Cherries’ first league win of the season at Yeovil.
If points were awarded for possession, Cherries would have had this game won by half-time. The first half, however, would have caused more concern in the home dressing room than it did celebration in the visiting team’s.
Instantly forgettable, it could only be described as one of the most wretched and uneventful opening 45 minutes witnessed at the venue. For the record, the only handclapping was of the slow variety after referee Fred Graham had allowed the teams a drinks break.
Half-chances from Shaun MacDonald, Josh McQuoid and Harry Arter were barely worth mentioning, while a header over the crossbar from Wes Fogden was the closest either team came to breaking both the deadlock and the tedium.
Pools never looked likely to crack under the blandest of interrogation, while Cherries, who were booed off at the interval, were devoid of invention and imagination and bereft of attacking threat.
Groves said: “The players were edgy, they were frustrated at times and they got impatient. That gets transmitted from the fans, there is no doubt about it.
“Although we did not play with enough pace or tempo, it was 0-0 at half-time and there had been no chances against us.
“Whether it is expectation levels or whatever, there are a lot of young players and they won’t know how to cope with being booed or got at so that would have made it very difficult for them.”
Arter and Steve Cook were sacrificed nine minutes into the second half, with Marc Pugh and Charlie Daniels providing much needed width and balance. Their respective arrivals enlivened proceedings, as did the introduction of Tubbs after 67 minutes.
However, Cherries were forced to come from behind to rescue a point after Simon Walton’s 73rd- minute penalty had threatened to make a dark day even more dismal. Referee Graham pointed to the spot after deeming an innocuous challenge by MacDonald on Evan Horwood had merited the ultimate punishment.
Tubbs took centre stage just two minutes later when his glaring miss looked set to prove costly. Pouncing on the loose ball after Scott Flinders had saved smartly from Lewis Grabban, Tubbs, who was in touching distance of the line, somehow managed to head wide.
He atoned deep into stoppage-time when he beat Flinders with a composed finish after Miles Addison had supplied the assist.
“I was kicking myself after missing the first chance,” said Tubbs. “Opportunities like that don’t come around too often. But I know we will always create chances and so it proved.
“It is a striker’s dream to be |one-on-one with the keeper so close to goal and I was pleased to score.”
Groves added: “We know we can play better. You want to play with more pace and more tempo, especially at home.
“But we were in total control and they couldn’t get near our goal.
“One incident gave us a mountain to climb but the players kept going.”
Comments(24)
Jim_Springbourne
says...
7:20pm Sun 16 Sep 12
lionheart
says...
7:22pm Sun 16 Sep 12
Scrap the diamond. It doesn't work against a five man midfield.
We have a decent squad of players but Groves and Brooks are turning them into shadows of what they are capable of on the pitch.
The fans are voting with their feet and staying away. Football is an entertainment business. No one will pay good money to watch such dross.
Wake up Max. You've got a bunch of clowns in charge of the club in the boardroom and team management
Rednblackarmy1
says...
7:27pm Sun 16 Sep 12
Reg TW
says...
7:39pm Sun 16 Sep 12
Reg TW
says...
7:40pm Sun 16 Sep 12
Awayfor247days
says...
7:58pm Sun 16 Sep 12
Bournemouth to them and I was frankly embarrases walking out of the ground with then! An absolute waste of money having been to all friendlier and games so far this season the fun has gone I love my club but it's not enjoyable!! Do other readers remember under the control of EH the feel good factor in very difficult circumstances the singing overwhelming support for the manager , entertaining play... This seems like an age ago now! Promotion absolutely no chance we are a underperformimg side full of excuses enough is enough action needed to save this club Mitchell!!
Bobcat
says...
8:07pm Sun 16 Sep 12
Reg TW wrote:Good post and NP nails it in this update,thanks.
Fantastic Headline Neil Perrett!!! As others have said we are not booing the players it is the Management we are directing are anger at. The majority of us did not want the present puppet management duo under Tom Mitchell who should stick to playing football on his Playstation - not running a real team!!! We fans wanted an experienced Manager who would be able to run the team without any interference, all this borrowed money is being wasted on a group of players who do not perform as a team because they lack strong, proven management. Hopefully we will get a home win sometime this season, Championship Football will not be achieved with the present set up - all 3 need to go - PS Eddie stick to building houses get a good Manger in and let him run the club his way!!!!
Hopefully the Clan will move onto their next disaster sooner rather than later. We seem to be watching a young lad with a rich benefactor let him play with a real football club and it is a massive fail ?
Groves is now coming across as really out of touch and sadly quite delusional. It's not the players, it's the manager.
Max Demin is also now becoming the butt of some derision with his hands off approach with his involvment in the club. Why is he watching a 24 year old squander his money, can anyone answer this question ?
Mr. Perrett we need more no punches pulled reporting if we are to see this club survive.
Awayfor247days
says...
8:19pm Sun 16 Sep 12
Football banning order yob
says...
7:11am Mon 17 Sep 12
wookj1
says...
8:30am Mon 17 Sep 12
We also have Macdonald, O'Kane, andArter who all prefer to play in the tip of the diamond position competing for one spot or playing out of their natural position.
Although the diamond system works away from home, we need more width and balance, by playing Fogden wide right.
If we create more chances, we must improve our goal scoring record.
With three points for a win it is an absolutely daft strategy, to even think about not losing and getting a draw, until the last fifteen minutes of a game we are chasing.
DansAFCB
says...
8:39am Mon 17 Sep 12
Just go now you deluded fool!
GROVES OUT TODAY!!!!!!
N Smith
says...
8:58am Mon 17 Sep 12
The Renegade Master
says...
9:55am Mon 17 Sep 12
Enough said.
bobsworthforever
says...
10:02am Mon 17 Sep 12
and hope we score early and their is not too much booing. i understand about teams coming down and parkin the bus but you would need some sort of manager to always be able to counteract this tactic . At least i will not be seeing all that Champions League Group stage rubbish. come Bournemouth lets do it
ferguson12
says...
10:29am Mon 17 Sep 12
Brock_and_Roll
says...
12:57pm Mon 17 Sep 12
With a few exceptions, British footballers are not known for their intelligence. Furthermore, unlike our continental cousins, they will have almost certainly played almost every game of their lives since the age of 10 in a 4-4-2 formation. The only variations on this are the occasional 4-4-1-1 (away games) or 5-4-1 (when 1-0 up with 5 mins to go), and even that usually ends in a last minute heart breaker!
As a result any attempt at exotic formations such as 5-3-2, Diamonds or even Christmas trees are best left to Tom's PSP Championship Manager.
Whilst new formations often work in training sessions, under the pressure of the match players automatically revert to type resulting in people not being where they are suposed to be, confusion, defensive ****-ups, wasted runs and general confusion.
So unless we are planning on signing Messi, Viera or Ronaldo, lets play to the players strenghts - 4 at the back, 4 in the midfield with 2 quick players out wide that can get balls into the mixer for one strong headerer of the ball and a poacher who can pick up the scraps!
goatty
says...
1:22pm Mon 17 Sep 12
Bobcat wrote:What experience has Mitchell got? None
Reg TW wrote:Good post and NP nails it in this update,thanks.
Fantastic Headline Neil Perrett!!! As others have said we are not booing the players it is the Management we are directing are anger at. The majority of us did not want the present puppet management duo under Tom Mitchell who should stick to playing football on his Playstation - not running a real team!!! We fans wanted an experienced Manager who would be able to run the team without any interference, all this borrowed money is being wasted on a group of players who do not perform as a team because they lack strong, proven management. Hopefully we will get a home win sometime this season, Championship Football will not be achieved with the present set up - all 3 need to go - PS Eddie stick to building houses get a good Manger in and let him run the club his way!!!!
Hopefully the Clan will move onto their next disaster sooner rather than later. We seem to be watching a young lad with a rich benefactor let him play with a real football club and it is a massive fail ?
Groves is now coming across as really out of touch and sadly quite delusional. It's not the players, it's the manager.
Max Demin is also now becoming the butt of some derision with his hands off approach with his involvment in the club. Why is he watching a 24 year old squander his money, can anyone answer this question ?
Mr. Perrett we need more no punches pulled reporting if we are to see this club survive.
What experience has Blake got? None
What experience has Mitchell got? None
Has any of then ever been to DC before they bought it? NO
It was bought for Mitchell Jnr as he could not a job anywhere else. This was confirmed by Mitchell himself in his HOT magazine which I just read, which left me reaching for a sick bag!
smhinto
says...
1:34pm Mon 17 Sep 12
.
However, in his defence I will say that Hartlepool game to sit behind the ball and possibly catch us on the break. They did their homework on us very well. They knew that we were better than them on footballing terms so they could not match us on that front, therefore they came to stifle us and defend heavily, they got the point aht they came for, so fair play to them.
.
We are a young side that maybe has not encountered typical lower division football where this sort of thing happens all too often.
.
But we have to overcome this and become more ruthless.
.
Brentford may well give us a game tomorrow and be more open.
Regards
lionheart
says...
5:46pm Mon 17 Sep 12
goatty wrote:It was originally to be Dorchester Town FC but the locals got wise and kicked Mitchell & co out of town.
Bobcat wrote:What experience has Mitchell got? None
Reg TW wrote:Good post and NP nails it in this update,thanks.
Fantastic Headline Neil Perrett!!! As others have said we are not booing the players it is the Management we are directing are anger at. The majority of us did not want the present puppet management duo under Tom Mitchell who should stick to playing football on his Playstation - not running a real team!!! We fans wanted an experienced Manager who would be able to run the team without any interference, all this borrowed money is being wasted on a group of players who do not perform as a team because they lack strong, proven management. Hopefully we will get a home win sometime this season, Championship Football will not be achieved with the present set up - all 3 need to go - PS Eddie stick to building houses get a good Manger in and let him run the club his way!!!!
Hopefully the Clan will move onto their next disaster sooner rather than later. We seem to be watching a young lad with a rich benefactor let him play with a real football club and it is a massive fail ?
Groves is now coming across as really out of touch and sadly quite delusional. It's not the players, it's the manager.
Max Demin is also now becoming the butt of some derision with his hands off approach with his involvment in the club. Why is he watching a 24 year old squander his money, can anyone answer this question ?
Mr. Perrett we need more no punches pulled reporting if we are to see this club survive.
What experience has Blake got? None
What experience has Mitchell got? None
Has any of then ever been to DC before they bought it? NO
It was bought for Mitchell Jnr as he could not a job anywhere else. This was confirmed by Mitchell himself in his HOT magazine which I just read, which left me reaching for a sick bag!
susi.m
says...
7:32pm Mon 17 Sep 12
Disgusting lot.
West moors 1
says...
8:01pm Mon 17 Sep 12
Frankiesbackfromhollywood
says...
8:20am Tue 18 Sep 12
smhinto wrote:you weren't at the game were you?
I will stick to my original point of giving PG 15 games to show some form of impact.
.
However, in his defence I will say that Hartlepool game to sit behind the ball and possibly catch us on the break. They did their homework on us very well. They knew that we were better than them on footballing terms so they could not match us on that front, therefore they came to stifle us and defend heavily, they got the point aht they came for, so fair play to them.
.
We are a young side that maybe has not encountered typical lower division football where this sort of thing happens all too often.
.
But we have to overcome this and become more ruthless.
.
Brentford may well give us a game tomorrow and be more open.
Regards
stevobath
says...
12:41pm Tue 18 Sep 12

redboob says...
7:20pm Sun 16 Sep 12
clutching at straws I'm afraid
it's like pg is more concerned with stopping the opposition troubling our goal than he is getting our own players to threaten the opposition's goal
how about scoring goals? revolutionary stuff
safety first, over cautious, as neil says - tedious
it sure won't bring the fans back