Cherries: Groves is demanding a quick response to loss (From Bournemouth Echo)
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Cherries: Groves is demanding a quick response to loss
7:00am Monday 3rd September 2012 in Sport
By Neil Perrett
MANAGER Paul Groves knows he needs to address Cherries ’ indifferent start to the new season – and quickly.
Groves was left to count the cost of a shambolic defensive display as Cherries were on the receiving end of a 5-3 thumping at Sheffield United on Saturday.
Defeat ended Cherries’ unbeaten start to the League One campaign and left them in 18th place in the embryonic table with just three points from their first four games.
Although Tommy Elphick opened the scoring for Cherries, they reached the break trailing 3-1 following Ryan Flynn’s double and a wonder strike from Manchester United loan star John Cofie.
Richard Cresswell made it 4-2 after Lee Barnard had reduced the arrears and, although Marc Pugh netted three minutes from time, Nick Blackman’s injury-time penalty capped a miserable day for Cherries.
Groves told the Daily Echo: “If you come to Sheffield and score three goals, you expect to get on the bus with something.
“We need to address and analyse this, learn from it and improve on it. But we have got to do that very quickly.
“You can’t give away cheap goals. Whether it is giving away the ball or defending a cross in the box, you just can’t do it. We made them change after we had taken the lead. They became more physical and direct and we had no answer to that, which was disappointing.
“You would not have seen it coming after what had gone before. It was not as if we had been conceding lots of chances or had even looked like conceding lots of goals. It was a very different game to what we had experienced before.
“In our first three league games, I felt our play and the opportunities we had created had been more deserving of three points. Everything you do will take time but we are in a business where we need to get results. You are going to get ups and downs along the way.”
Sheffield United boss Danny Wilson was full of praise for Cherries and felt they had contributed to an exciting encounter at Bramall Lane.
Wilson told the Daily Echo: “Bournemouth played very well and are going to be a threat towards the end of the season. They came here with a really positive approach, which was terrific, and it made for a great game. The neutral would have enjoyed it.
“We scored five goals but were never relaxed and they were always pushing. I think Paul has done brilliantly.
“He gets his team playing very well and they are very difficult to play against. Some of the quality signings will reap dividends as they go along. They are a tough team to beat.”
Comments(34)
alasdair1967
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7:19am Mon 3 Sep 12
Football banning order yob
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7:22am Mon 3 Sep 12
PeterFrance
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7:27am Mon 3 Sep 12
With AFCB constantly looking at new players PG always has his excuse, "I just need one more player".
Time to go Mr Groves.
Richard 1976
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7:29am Mon 3 Sep 12
eaststandman
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7:35am Mon 3 Sep 12
Richard 1976 wrote:Agree.
Disappointed to log on and find Groves not relieved of his duties yet.
How much longer have we got to put up with this Bile ? ........
boyerboy
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7:49am Mon 3 Sep 12
Groves will easily get a job writing excuses for a living and Brooks can go back to what he is good at( just need to find out what though ).
Mike Oxbig
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7:50am Mon 3 Sep 12
Wilkie
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8:15am Mon 3 Sep 12
boby
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8:17am Mon 3 Sep 12
The Renegade Master
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8:20am Mon 3 Sep 12
pauls55
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8:29am Mon 3 Sep 12
4-4 . Even if we had Ferguson as manager he would not have been able to stop those basic errors. Having said that Groves' days are surely numbered judging by Mitchell's past so unless he can gel the team together in the next couple of games I think there will be a new man at the helm by the home game with Hartelpool.
The Renegade Master
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8:41am Mon 3 Sep 12
pauls55 wrote:We'll be propping up the table by the Hartlepool game!
I went to Sheffield and the players need to look at themselves for that result, it certainly wasn't all Groves' fault. Macdonald and Francis gave away possesion easily for two of their goals and Grabban missed a sitter which would have levelled it up to
4-4 . Even if we had Ferguson as manager he would not have been able to stop those basic errors. Having said that Groves' days are surely numbered judging by Mitchell's past so unless he can gel the team together in the next couple of games I think there will be a new man at the helm by the home game with Hartelpool.
GROVES & BROOKS OUT!
boby
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8:54am Mon 3 Sep 12
boby
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9:00am Mon 3 Sep 12
Square Old Codger
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9:06am Mon 3 Sep 12
Luffbracherry
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9:28am Mon 3 Sep 12
Square Old Codger wrote:Don't discount Pompey SOC! they have what we are lacking..togethernes and a passion - in their case to survive. They showed that in the league game
We must have a chance against Pompey - who are in free fall. But Yeovil will be a tough test and by the Hartlepool game we , with Pompey could be propping up the league. But, I can't see Mitchell sacking his Brother-in-law and his mate Groves, as with Bradbury it will take Max Demin to step in, the question is will he and just how interested in the Club is he! Thought that EM's comment, "we have the support, for the moment, so might as well use it", a little ominous . Just how long a moment will it be.
The problems at the club are so complex that we just have to ride it all out
The only solution to remedy the situation is to appoint an experienced managed who will be allowed to MANAGE and LEAD without interference from anyone..but unfortunately under the current regime that will not happen or not until the regime changes. We are stuck with people who are completely out of their depth appently without any understanding of a 'cash flow forecast'
lockandload
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9:34am Mon 3 Sep 12
!!!!!!!
Groves and Brooks still have a job this morning.
In my view, we are now in free fall and sadly I wont be part of it anymore. I wont pay hard earned money to watch rubbish.
babyduck
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9:44am Mon 3 Sep 12
jbland
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10:20am Mon 3 Sep 12
babyduck wrote:Rednapp ???? why ? he wouldnt want to manage our disjointed team and he isnt a miracle worker ,he is yesterdays news
Get Redknapp in before Southampton get rid of Adkins and he takes that job.
what is certain is that the current management team cannot survive and must go now and in fact Groves ,if he had any balls would do the decent thing and resign
Piston_Broke
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10:25am Mon 3 Sep 12
babyduck wrote:There is more chance of peace in the Middle East, than there is of 'Arry going back to Southampton, even if Adkins were to get the heave-ho (and that would be totally unjustified so far). The Saints fans despise HR with a passion.
Get Redknapp in before Southampton get rid of Adkins and he takes that job.
smhinto
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10:32am Mon 3 Sep 12
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Although my hopes are not high. What would be the point in getting rid of Groves when the likelyhood of us appointing another 'numpty' is quite high when one considers the appointments of Bond, Quinn, Bradbury etc All were poor choices despite it being blindingly obvious before theur appointments.
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The best thing we did of late was getting rid of Bradbury. I believe in what Groves is trying to do. The signs of us becoming successful are beginning to materialize if given time, but with the money he has spent he will be under pressure.
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In Groves defence one could say that we have had a difficult start fixture wise. With Pompey away, MK Dons, Preston and then Sheff Utd away. All of these sides are fancied to do well despite Pompeys problems. I would sooner play these sides now than at the end of the season.
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So perhaps we need to get things into perspective.
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I did predict that we would lose at Sheff utd, despite taking the lead I was still not hopeful.
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Tuesday will be another clobbering for us as Pompey do not possess a reserve side, they will be gunning for it as they need the money as they are skint, plus the fact they are at home, so it is ENDEX for us i am afraid. No doubt we will be fielding a different side for this game so the chances of losing will be that much greater.
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Yeovil will be another defeat as they are also at home and scoring goals for fun.
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On the plus side for us we have mcQuoid on the mend so we will have to see.
Regards
Julian Somerset
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10:34am Mon 3 Sep 12
Dont have short memorys
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10:52am Mon 3 Sep 12
THE OST EFFECIVE QUICK RESPONSE SHOULD READ
Dear Tom I know you cant go but I cant make a Team out of any of your signings and I now realise that I d not have the ability to manage a Team in this or any other Division therefore I resign so you can appoint another Yes Man (Sorry Manager) before the Club s both bankrupt and relagated
Dont have short memorys
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11:45am Mon 3 Sep 12
smhinto wrote:I would have a certain amount of sympathy if the Manager was expecting the Players to adapt to a different style but as he has brought all these new players in you would like to think that the players he has signed would be suited to his style of play . This in my opinion is a Manager that needs to grow a pair stand up and fight for the Team and tell Tom who the Manager is because I am not so sure that Groves had had much of a say in the signings however he says he has so he and he alone must take the responsibility for failing to create a half decent Team I am sure that if Mr Groves put his foot down he would join th rs of our ex Managers very quickly but I suspect that we will have to endure more of this timebomb of Human incompetence tic toc tic toc 15 games (45 points) is to long in my opinion would take a decent Manager to long to save us
Personally. I would still give Groves and co 10 to 15 games. If we still do not show signs of turning things then we need to make the right decision.
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Although my hopes are not high. What would be the point in getting rid of Groves when the likelyhood of us appointing another 'numpty' is quite high when one considers the appointments of Bond, Quinn, Bradbury etc All were poor choices despite it being blindingly obvious before theur appointments.
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The best thing we did of late was getting rid of Bradbury. I believe in what Groves is trying to do. The signs of us becoming successful are beginning to materialize if given time, but with the money he has spent he will be under pressure.
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In Groves defence one could say that we have had a difficult start fixture wise. With Pompey away, MK Dons, Preston and then Sheff Utd away. All of these sides are fancied to do well despite Pompeys problems. I would sooner play these sides now than at the end of the season.
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So perhaps we need to get things into perspective.
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I did predict that we would lose at Sheff utd, despite taking the lead I was still not hopeful.
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Tuesday will be another clobbering for us as Pompey do not possess a reserve side, they will be gunning for it as they need the money as they are skint, plus the fact they are at home, so it is ENDEX for us i am afraid. No doubt we will be fielding a different side for this game so the chances of losing will be that much greater.
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Yeovil will be another defeat as they are also at home and scoring goals for fun.
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On the plus side for us we have mcQuoid on the mend so we will have to see.
Regards
Northstand_dan
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11:56am Mon 3 Sep 12
Northstand_dan
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12:05pm Mon 3 Sep 12
pete woodley
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1:30pm Mon 3 Sep 12
pauls55
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3:03pm Mon 3 Sep 12
CherryChimes
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7:14pm Mon 3 Sep 12
yokel cherry
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7:24pm Mon 3 Sep 12
Eddie Howe 41%( no previous experience and no money to spend and huge points deduction.)
Lee Bradbury 50% ( using Eddie Howes' team)
Paul Groves 16% (having spent more money on players than any cherries manager in the history of the club)
Do we need to know anything else?
West moors 1
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8:43pm Mon 3 Sep 12
yokel cherry wrote:Well said! Groves is clueless and couldn't motivate schoolboy team. The squad is getting too large and he just doesn't know his best eleven. He plays injured players, unfit players and ignores young players like Gregory. Come on Mitchell, take the difficult decision and get rid of this looser.
Win ratio of the first twelve games for our three most recent managers.
Eddie Howe 41%( no previous experience and no money to spend and huge points deduction.)
Lee Bradbury 50% ( using Eddie Howes' team)
Paul Groves 16% (having spent more money on players than any cherries manager in the history of the club)
Do we need to know anything else?
alasdair1967
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9:19pm Mon 3 Sep 12
10 to 15 games thats 30 to 45 points to gamble with as yokel cherry has kindly pointed out the percentages speak volumes,its time for a statement from the club as to there stance on Groves, is there a performance based clause in his contract these are the sort of questions our illustrious sports reporters at the echo should be asking
lionheart
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10:47pm Mon 3 Sep 12
The Mitchell's have now well and truly got their tentacles into the fabric of AFCB. They have now appointed two management teams who have been found wanting and are making a pigs ear of running AFCB.
Unfortunately Edmund and his family are too full of their own importance to realise the harm they are doing and to me they are wasting the money borrowed from Maxim. The way we are going is unsustainable.
Our only salvation is for Max to buy out the Mitchell family and for me it couldn't come quick enough.
Mike Oxbig says...
7:10am Mon 3 Sep 12