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7:00am Wednesday 2nd July 2008
ALAN Pither claims his 11th hour rival bid to buy Cherries is the club's answer to a secure future.
Pither, along with partners Gerard Day and Melvyn Newman, last night decided to go public in an exclusive interview with the Echo after Cherries administrator Gerald Krasner revealed a fresh bid to buy the club was placed on the table on Monday night.
Day is a St Albans-based finance expert, while Newman is one of the country's biggest fruit farmers and lives in Canterbury.
However, while Krasner would not be drawn on the names of those behind the new offer at yesterday's press conference, Pither, the frontman of Bournemouth Holdings Ltd, a new company set up last month with the sole purpose of acquiring the football club, has decided to speak out.
The Echo understands Pither has provided substantial funding, along with Mostyn, to pay wages recently, with Pither, Day and Newman believed to have been the main money men behind preferred bidder Mostyn's consortium up until last week.
Relations, however, apparently turned sour before last Tuesday's delayed press conference.
That sparked Pither to make his own bid for the ailing club on Monday, with Mostyn now understood to be working with a new consortium put together with the help of new Cherries chief executive Alistair Saverimutto and his Sport-6 marketing company.
Saverimutto and Sport-6 had previously expressed an interest in fronting up a bid for both Chester City and, it is understood, Luton Town before linking up with Mostyn more recently.
Pither revealed last night that Bournemouth Holdings had struck a deal with New Milton-based Parkcrest Construction for the land behind Dean Court's East Stand and the option on the land behind the South Stand. The deal is now understood to be going through the legal process.
Pither told the Echo: "We've been involved with the club on and off since November, but Jeff (Mostyn) came to us six weeks ago because he had nobody else to go to and we put a deal together.
"I've been in the club for the past five weeks, three days a week, and I was introduced to the staff three weeks ago as the new owner. On Thursday I got a call from Jeff saying, I'm going to do this deal on my own'."
Pither would not be drawn on rumours of a disagreement on funding between Krasner and the consortium as it stood last week, but Krasner, in yesterday's press briefing, said: "The deal I've had to strike to pay the wages last week is that I needed some money and people who've given me the money have the right to exclusivity. When I asked other people at the same time, Are you prepared to up your offer to give me money?' the answer was, We're not in a position to do that'."
When asked whether his bid was made in anger after the split with Mostyn, Pither replied: "There was a lot of people out there who wanted to steal' the club for £1 and with the inside track we had, we could have been one of them.
"But we weren't and we've got the best interests of the club at heart. Our bid, I believe, is the best one for the club.
"We want to buy the club and it's a proper bid. The money to buy the club is still sitting with my lawyer and it was there under the old offer."
On the land deal with Parkcrest, Pither added: "I'm in the process of buying the land behind the East Stand and the option on the land behind the South Stand. Those deals are going through the legal process.
"I told Parkcrest the plans we had for the land, we'll probably get them to do the build, and we will stick half the profits back into the club.
"I'd like to take the club forward and, with regard to the property deals, even if I'm not the owner, I'm not saying I wouldn't put any of that money back into the club.
"But I don't want any bad press for the club going forward and if Jeff is the one who takes it forward then I hope he makes a success of it."
Administrator Krasner confirmed Pither's consortium as the new bidders when contacted by the Echo last night. Mostyn declined to comment in a phone call from the Echo last night.
Krasner, meanwhile, is understood to have given Mostyn a deadline of Friday for further funding.
kevvo, The dog house again says...
8:03am Wed 2 Jul 08
brian, Blandford says...
8:19am Wed 2 Jul 08
GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
9:04am Wed 2 Jul 08
kenno, Sidmouth says...
9:09am Wed 2 Jul 08
Paul W, Charminster, Bomo says...
9:18am Wed 2 Jul 08
kevvo, The dog house again says...
9:49am Wed 2 Jul 08
GMcMahon wrote:Yes its not looking good is it. And you are right Mostyn seems to want to keep everything close to his chest Mind you he keeps changing his partners so no wonder he cant make a statement sounds like he was ready to announce his plans with the Bmth Holdings lot last Tuesday but something happeneed that made him jump ship.
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
fletcher4manager, SP6 says...
9:53am Wed 2 Jul 08
ondulado, bournemouth says...
9:55am Wed 2 Jul 08
anton, uk says...
10:05am Wed 2 Jul 08
kevvo, The dog house again says...
10:07am Wed 2 Jul 08
GMcMahon wrote:Now perhaps you can see I wasnt so negative about Mostyn. He may be the Saviour of the Club (I doubt it) but even if he is the way he goes about things is terrible. He keeps losing partners he gets preffered status without making a bid and now it still looks like he is going to pull the plug. Your last paragraph just about sums it up . Beware of People with false promises. Mostyn doesnt have the money for any long term commitment to take this Club forward and this Pither bloke seems to have the aces by getting the land . This is really twisting and turning by the day and I honestly think that if Mostyn doesnt give Krassner money on Friday he will show that he is walking which he said he would never do.
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
kevvo, The dog house again says...
10:09am Wed 2 Jul 08
anton wrote:Spot on when you consider that he seems to change partners as often as he changes his underpants who could have confidence in him.
Mostyn seems to come out of this as egotistical, greedy and untrustworthy. If I were a sponsor I would not do business with someone who seems so apt to stabbing business partners in the back.
kevvo, The dog house again says...
10:13am Wed 2 Jul 08
ondulado wrote:Agreed thats the bit I dont get apparantly the money is with Lawyers and its the money that was going to be used for the Mostyn bid that was accepted before Jeff changed partners again.
Why would someone come in so late with a bid that isn't as good as Mostyns bid ? It doesn't make any sense if we are to believe what is being said. A serious bidder would ensure that his bid was better otherwise what's the point? I thought the deal was done and dusted and because of that i happily sent off for my season ticket at the weekend. Now I am worried again by all this and hope i have not just sent another few hundred quid down the pan!
frankfidler, florida usa says...
11:37am Wed 2 Jul 08
GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
11:49am Wed 2 Jul 08
kevvo wrote:And now you can see I was not joking when I said there were deals being done and other investors were about and Mostyn was not the money, so we have all been taken for a ride in my honest opinion, I said we needed to back any deal that saves the club it looks like Jeff was thinking the same thing, he's been lining up these deals and then when they find out what he wants out of it they jump ship, even as recently as last week, no wonder that press conference said nothing and was delayed. I seriously hope this does come to and end Friday, I still get the very strong feeling that when we do come out of administration Jeff Mostyn will not be the one doing it, didn't he say as long ago as February that if a better deal came in he would step aside, well if ever there looked like that happening the news today is strongly suggesting just that. All very clever stuff, no wonder it's been so quiet for so long.
GMcMahon wrote:Now perhaps you can see I wasnt so negative about Mostyn. He may be the Saviour of the Club (I doubt it) but even if he is the way he goes about things is terrible. He keeps losing partners he gets preffered status without making a bid and now it still looks like he is going to pull the plug. Your last paragraph just about sums it up . Beware of People with false promises. Mostyn doesnt have the money for any long term commitment to take this Club forward and this Pither bloke seems to have the aces by getting the land . This is really twisting and turning by the day and I honestly think that if Mostyn doesnt give Krassner money on Friday he will show that he is walking which he said he would never do.
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
I may be talking a lot of rot but I cant get my head round all this deciept and hype WHY CANT THE ECHO SUB THE REPORTING OUT TO PROPER JOURNOS
brock_and_roll, Brock says...
12:02pm Wed 2 Jul 08
kevvo, The dog house again says...
12:08pm Wed 2 Jul 08
GMcMahon wrote:I think that jeff saying he would step aside was wishfull thinking hoping that he could attract someone to get him out of the mess he helped to create. Anyway its all academic now I just hope we get out of this mess time is running out and every day is costing a fortune now its not only Krassners fees it this new CE as well . You can see my point cant you if this CE is on salary which Mostyn and Krassner say he is and this other bloke gets it we will have a CE working for the rivals unless they sack him of course . No you are right there is something else going on here looks like a deal has already been struck in my opinion
kevvo wrote:And now you can see I was not joking when I said there were deals being done and other investors were about and Mostyn was not the money, so we have all been taken for a ride in my honest opinion, I said we needed to back any deal that saves the club it looks like Jeff was thinking the same thing, he's been lining up these deals and then when they find out what he wants out of it they jump ship, even as recently as last week, no wonder that press conference said nothing and was delayed. I seriously hope this does come to and end Friday, I still get the very strong feeling that when we do come out of administration Jeff Mostyn will not be the one doing it, didn't he say as long ago as February that if a better deal came in he would step aside, well if ever there looked like that happening the news today is strongly suggesting just that. All very clever stuff, no wonder it's been so quiet for so long.GMcMahon wrote: So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.Now perhaps you can see I wasnt so negative about Mostyn. He may be the Saviour of the Club (I doubt it) but even if he is the way he goes about things is terrible. He keeps losing partners he gets preffered status without making a bid and now it still looks like he is going to pull the plug. Your last paragraph just about sums it up . Beware of People with false promises. Mostyn doesnt have the money for any long term commitment to take this Club forward and this Pither bloke seems to have the aces by getting the land . This is really twisting and turning by the day and I honestly think that if Mostyn doesnt give Krassner money on Friday he will show that he is walking which he said he would never do. I may be talking a lot of rot but I cant get my head round all this deciept and hype WHY CANT THE ECHO SUB THE REPORTING OUT TO PROPER JOURNOS
kevvo, The dog house again says...
12:16pm Wed 2 Jul 08
brock_and_roll wrote:It didnt make sense to me that someone would come in with a lower offer than Mostyn until I read your post . Now it makes perfect sense I wonder what the next twist will be.
Looks to me that Pither has pulled a fast one here by doing a deal direct with Krasner to buy the land. The wording on Pither's statement gives the impression that this is a done deal and is going ahead. Without the land, I would have throught that the chances of Mostyn being able to find more funders is just about nil. Therefore, although Mostyn's bid is currently higher, it looks likely that he will not be able to meet the deadline to secure the funding. Pither will therefore pay £X for the land and £1 for the club (which is all its worth without the land). Mostyn will then have to get in a queue with all the other creditors for his share of the total whatever that is. Not looking good to be honest - if the league had the balls they would chuck us out the league for these kind of schenanigans.
kevvo, The dog house again says...
12:20pm Wed 2 Jul 08
kevvo wrote:But not sure who is dealing with who !!!!!
GMcMahon wrote:I think that jeff saying he would step aside was wishfull thinking hoping that he could attract someone to get him out of the mess he helped to create. Anyway its all academic now I just hope we get out of this mess time is running out and every day is costing a fortune now its not only Krassners fees it this new CE as well . You can see my point cant you if this CE is on salary which Mostyn and Krassner say he is and this other bloke gets it we will have a CE working for the rivals unless they sack him of course . No you are right there is something else going on here looks like a deal has already been struck in my opinionkevvo wrote:And now you can see I was not joking when I said there were deals being done and other investors were about and Mostyn was not the money, so we have all been taken for a ride in my honest opinion, I said we needed to back any deal that saves the club it looks like Jeff was thinking the same thing, he's been lining up these deals and then when they find out what he wants out of it they jump ship, even as recently as last week, no wonder that press conference said nothing and was delayed. I seriously hope this does come to and end Friday, I still get the very strong feeling that when we do come out of administration Jeff Mostyn will not be the one doing it, didn't he say as long ago as February that if a better deal came in he would step aside, well if ever there looked like that happening the news today is strongly suggesting just that. All very clever stuff, no wonder it's been so quiet for so long.GMcMahon wrote: So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.Now perhaps you can see I wasnt so negative about Mostyn. He may be the Saviour of the Club (I doubt it) but even if he is the way he goes about things is terrible. He keeps losing partners he gets preffered status without making a bid and now it still looks like he is going to pull the plug. Your last paragraph just about sums it up . Beware of People with false promises. Mostyn doesnt have the money for any long term commitment to take this Club forward and this Pither bloke seems to have the aces by getting the land . This is really twisting and turning by the day and I honestly think that if Mostyn doesnt give Krassner money on Friday he will show that he is walking which he said he would never do. I may be talking a lot of rot but I cant get my head round all this deciept and hype WHY CANT THE ECHO SUB THE REPORTING OUT TO PROPER JOURNOS
kevvo, The dog house again says...
12:24pm Wed 2 Jul 08
dunk, Bournemouth says...
12:35pm Wed 2 Jul 08
smhinto, Lincoln says...
12:45pm Wed 2 Jul 08
lferrone, Boscombe East says...
12:55pm Wed 2 Jul 08
lferrone, Boscombe East says...
12:57pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Thomas Griffiths., 12 Wiltshire Gardens, Bransgore, Christchurch, Dorset. BH23 8BJ says...
1:00pm Wed 2 Jul 08
lferrone, Boscombe East says...
1:14pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Thomas Griffiths. wrote:First of all may I congratulate you on your wonderful age and say that we all hope that Arthur will leave you alone sufficiently for you to be able to come and watch football again (if I can be of help I will be happy to fetch you and take you home on match days). I wholeheartedly agree with you about honesty and truth it is about time we were given more facts instead of having to guess about the wheeling and dealing which is going on at the moment.
As a "Cherries" supporter since 1962 & one of the £100 shareholders it is easy to understand the effect all this turmmoil is having on the "Genuine" supporter of AFCB. I am 86 years old & due to the attentions of Arthur Ritus am now unable to attend matches, but have been very impressed with most of the very worthy comments posted on this website. I do wonder if Mr. Mostyn or Mr. Krasner take time to read them.All we need is fair & honest facts,good or bad. We value our football club very highly & need to know urgently, whether or not, we are to lose this very important part of our lives.It is not only about the football aspect but also the friendship that is created among supporters, a social meeting place on match days, which we all look forward to. To sum up I think the supporters of AFCB have been let down by the lack of positive information relating to this long and still ongoing Saga. Why all the secrecy? Our interest is genuine. It is our Club!!!!.
Thomas Griffiths., 12 Wiltshire Gardens, Bransgore, Christchurch, Dorset. BH23 8BJ says...
1:31pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Simon, London says...
1:39pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Thomas Griffiths., 12 Wiltshire Gardens, Bransgore, Christchurch, Dorset. BH23 8BJ says...
1:50pm Wed 2 Jul 08
lferrone, Boscombe East says...
2:04pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Throopmill, Mt Everest says...
2:08pm Wed 2 Jul 08
kenno, Sidmouth says...
2:10pm Wed 2 Jul 08
kevvo, The dog house again says...
2:18pm Wed 2 Jul 08
lferrone wrote:Well said Thomas despite the minor disagreements on here we all want the same thing for the Club a secure future and hopefully a bit of entertainment. If any of the prospective Directors lower themselves to read this give Thomas a free season Ticket and well done Iferrone for the wonderfull gesture and I am sure the rest of us will gladly help as well. Word of warning though Thomas dont tell the AFCB Board you have Arthritis if you get a seat in the stand they may mistke you for Russ Perrett who unlike yourself has done very little for our Club except draw his pay.
Thomas Griffiths. wrote: As a "Cherries" supporter since 1962 & one of the £100 shareholders it is easy to understand the effect all this turmmoil is having on the "Genuine" supporter of AFCB. I am 86 years old & due to the attentions of Arthur Ritus am now unable to attend matches, but have been very impressed with most of the very worthy comments posted on this website. I do wonder if Mr. Mostyn or Mr. Krasner take time to read them.All we need is fair & honest facts,good or bad. We value our football club very highly & need to know urgently, whether or not, we are to lose this very important part of our lives.It is not only about the football aspect but also the friendship that is created among supporters, a social meeting place on match days, which we all look forward to. To sum up I think the supporters of AFCB have been let down by the lack of positive information relating to this long and still ongoing Saga. Why all the secrecy? Our interest is genuine. It is our Club!!!!.First of all may I congratulate you on your wonderful age and say that we all hope that Arthur will leave you alone sufficiently for you to be able to come and watch football again (if I can be of help I will be happy to fetch you and take you home on match days). I wholeheartedly agree with you about honesty and truth it is about time we were given more facts instead of having to guess about the wheeling and dealing which is going on at the moment.
kevvo, The dog house again says...
2:20pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Throopmill wrote:He used to talk to himself but he walked away from himself in disgust and was unavailable for comment
Mostyn must have bad breath , he seems to drive away partners very quickly? I wonder if it is his remarkable communication skills that are coming to the fore? Mostyn is not good for the club!
QUEUE, EVERYWHERE says...
2:29pm Wed 2 Jul 08
peacelover08, South of England says...
2:51pm Wed 2 Jul 08
john coombes, Tiverton says...
2:59pm Wed 2 Jul 08
peacelover08 wrote:I have to agree with your posting, and they do themselves no favours with this :no comment: stance, they have appointed a chief executive who is now in a position to speak for them,although I cannot for the life of me see what powers he has or what he can achieve in this situation, I agree the 70s were difficult times but never as aimless and without leadership as at these times
There are some excellent posts on here from real supporters who are genuinely concerned about the future of our club. For months now I have raised many questions over the credibility of Mostyn and Sly, and their actions, When will the supporters wake up to what is happening, the last five months have seen some of the most appalling mis managment of all time, totally driven by self interest. The whole administration process has been influenced by Mostyn, and no one has challenged the situation. Our club is in appalling mess, it is dying before our very eyes and no one is asking what is happening, or why or what the outcomes are going to be, as to supporters we are told nothing, our representives on the ST just seem to support Mostyn, they never ask the searching questions, Has Mostyn and Sly delivered on anything they have promised........NO, there only achievements are to take the club into administration with no exit strategy, and relegation, so much for the bright future they promised!, now the very future of the club is at risk, and no one is challenging the administrator or Mostyn/Sly. This whole episode is disgraceful, and should be fully investigated. As a life long supporter I have never been so disolutioned as I am now, not even the dark days of the late 70s in Div 4 compare with what has happened at our club in the last 12 months.
hba1, Southampton says...
3:20pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Thomas Griffiths., 12 Wiltshire Gardens, Bransgore, Christchurch, Dorset. BH23 8BJ says...
4:15pm Wed 2 Jul 08
GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
4:57pm Wed 2 Jul 08
QUEUE wrote:How many more times I do not support Mostyn, I see you have changed your name again though, and I like egg so no problem their, even those I have argued with all know I do not support Jeff, I have only ever said I support a deal that saves the club and if that is Jeff then so be it, stop trying to put words into my mouth and stop trying to stir up an argument that just is not valid.
GMcMahon has so much egg on his face he could feed the whole of Bournemouth!
Does he really know anything about business and football?
Just watch Andy_roo and GMcMahon back off of telling how wonderful their mate Jeff is! These two idiots couldnt see the wood for the trees, it is so obvious that Mostyn wants out BUT wants his money back - hence he keeps upsetting his many consortium members at the last minute so they back off. He must have had knowledge that Mr Mystery was coming in at the last minute to bail Mostyn out.
Wolfstan, Bournemouth says...
5:27pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Throopmill, Mt Everest says...
6:00pm Wed 2 Jul 08
peacelover08, South of England says...
6:03pm Wed 2 Jul 08
john coombes, Tiverton says...
6:47pm Wed 2 Jul 08
frankfidler, florida usa says...
6:50pm Wed 2 Jul 08
kevvo, The dog house again says...
6:55pm Wed 2 Jul 08
peacelover08 wrote:Good Post Peacelover08 I know I am going to get slated for this but in my opinion I never trusted Mostyn I tried to give him a chance got slated for that as well but saw through this nonsense This Man has done nothing but destroy He has only invested to stop others getting hold of the Club for reasons best known to himself . I am convinced that this Man has not been, is not and never will be a friend of this Football Club. I just hope that if we survive and its still a big if that the FA investigate the way this whole episode has been conducted and do what they can to prevent it happening to any other Clubs
There are some excellent posts on here from real supporters who are genuinely concerned about the future of our club. For months now I have raised many questions over the credibility of Mostyn and Sly, and their actions, When will the supporters wake up to what is happening, the last five months have seen some of the most appalling mis managment of all time, totally driven by self interest. The whole administration process has been influenced by Mostyn, and no one has challenged the situation. Our club is in appalling mess, it is dying before our very eyes and no one is asking what is happening, or why or what the outcomes are going to be, as to supporters we are told nothing, our representives on the ST just seem to support Mostyn, they never ask the searching questions, Has Mostyn and Sly delivered on anything they have promised........NO, there only achievements are to take the club into administration with no exit strategy, and relegation, so much for the bright future they promised!, now the very future of the club is at risk, and no one is challenging the administrator or Mostyn/Sly. This whole episode is disgraceful, and should be fully investigated. As a life long supporter I have never been so disolutioned as I am now, not even the dark days of the late 70s in Div 4 compare with what has happened at our club in the last 12 months.
frankfidler, florida usa says...
6:57pm Wed 2 Jul 08
GMcMahon wrote:gmcmahon you seem to be the best informed of us all. can u find out from bournemouth planning office of plans submitted of lands being purchased. it seems to me jeff mostyn is now a figurehead .
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
kevvo, The dog house again says...
7:00pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Throopmill wrote:I think Mostyn agreed with this from the very start You have stuck with that and it looks like you are right good on ya
Mostyn out !
kevvo, The dog house again says...
7:12pm Wed 2 Jul 08
dunk wrote:Well they tried to work with Mostyn didnt they but he wont play ball with them . I think the problem is we are applying our logic as Supporters to all this e.g Passion no chance of making a profit whereas these Guys Jeff included are looking at what they can get rid of whats worth what and how cheap can they get the Club for. I honestly believe that if the Club owned the Ground and the land It would have been purchased by now and the blueprints drawn up for its future use. THese People dont give a stuff about the Club. If Jeff was the friend to the Club that some think he is he wouldnt have allowed this to go on by pulling out of deals ect. Its all about money or lack of it.
What a mess...surely none of the bidders we've had expected to make any profit and the main reason they want to take over is for the love of the club / ego trip. If they all worked together we'd have a much better hope going forward because all these nearly men give me the strong impression they are in over their heads....
kevvo, The dog house again says...
7:28pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Wolfstan, Bournemouth says...
7:28pm Wed 2 Jul 08
extabi, Bahamas says...
8:46pm Wed 2 Jul 08
lpstfc, Wiltshire says...
9:28pm Wed 2 Jul 08
frankfidler, florida usa says...
9:31pm Wed 2 Jul 08
frankfidler, florida usa says...
9:31pm Wed 2 Jul 08
lpstfc, Wiltshire says...
10:48pm Wed 2 Jul 08
J.W- Living AFCB!!!, Christchurch, North Stand says...
11:01pm Wed 2 Jul 08
Malcolm B, Bournemouth says...
11:25pm Wed 2 Jul 08
AFCBade, Croydon says...
11:34pm Wed 2 Jul 08
AFCBade, Croydon says...
11:35pm Wed 2 Jul 08
kevvo, The dog house again says...
7:32am Thu 3 Jul 08
J.W- Living AFCB!!! wrote:Well the stuff I have been posting is from quotes from Mostyn himself so Yes you may be right it may be even more lies. It was the Echo who brought up abot Krassners fees so they didnt know it was a flat rate and it was Krassner who said this new CE was on a six figure salary. It would appear that it wasnt only Mostyn who put money in. But you are right lets wait and see what happens tommorow because if nothing does we are really close to the wire I dont think People are deliberatly trying to be negative, the post I have seen are obviously from people who are worried about the Club . If youve got a noose around your neck positive thinking wont stop the trap door opening
Negative..Negative.. Negative.... get a grip. Im not saying its everyone but serously you have got no prove or facts to back up ur silly claims of the bad stuf going on. Without Mostyn let me remind you we would not be talking Having this very convo now. His money saved us from going down, you have to see that. FACT Krasner was played flat fee and is not getting payed for this extra time its taken, for whoever sed that,He has to complete his work he has to sort it out before he goes with no extra money FACT
GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
8:56am Thu 3 Jul 08
frankfidler wrote:Not best informed by any means I just did some digging around with the information that was available and is available to us all, I may well try and find out what you are asking as it would be very interesting to see. I do agree with you that Mostyn looks like a lame duck at the moment and I would not be surprised if we see a change of Chairman over the next week or two, it just goes to show even the most reliable of sources can have it blow up in their faces, I don't think any of us saw this coming a week ago, so we need to know what's next and fast, at least that's what I would like to know.
GMcMahon wrote:gmcmahon you seem to be the best informed of us all. can u find out from bournemouth planning office of plans submitted of lands being purchased. it seems to me jeff mostyn is now a figurehead .
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
Richard Mayes, says...
9:04am Thu 3 Jul 08
GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
9:06am Thu 3 Jul 08
J.W- Living AFCB!!! wrote:I think you will find that it's without pither we wouldn't be having this convo now, the facts are there for all to see, people are not being negative at all they are just fed up with the way this whole mess has been dealt with, and yet again we have had more lies, we were told Mostyn was putting up the money, something I said he wasn't doing and got a right earful for but we have seen this week that he hasn't been as financially involved as we were lead to believe. Krasner and his pay are not worth talking about, if he had done his job properly then this would have been resolved weeks ago, and he will be claiming expenses don't think he is doing this for nothing, he is an employee of the company he will still be getting he wages, unlike some have missed out on over the past 6 months. So the facts are out there and they do not point to Mostyn being as loyal to the club as he is to his wallet, so unless you can show the evidence that proves otherwise I don't think you are in a position to call the comments negative, then again you are entitled to think what you want.
Negative..Negative..
Negative.... get a grip. Im not saying its everyone but serously you have got no prove or facts to back up ur silly claims of the bad stuf going on.
Without Mostyn let me remind you we would not be talking Having this very convo now. His money saved us from going down, you have to see that. FACT
Krasner was played flat fee and is not getting payed for this extra time its taken, for whoever sed that,He has to complete his work he has to sort it out before he goes with no extra money FACT
ALL SEEING EYE, WESSEX says...
9:50am Thu 3 Jul 08
GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
11:10am Thu 3 Jul 08
ALL SEEING EYE wrote:Do you have any idea who Pither is and who he represents? You have not been retired either we all know the many names you have used, not hard when you use the same insults with every one of them. What exactly does I told you so refer to, you have not told us anything, all you have ever done is attack Mostyn at every opportunity and call for the death of the club, if that's what you mean by your comments then your welcome to them. I also do not recall anyone calling Mostyn a messiah, If you refer to those of us who said we need to give the deal a chance then fine by me I stand by that, as will others, but I do not recall anyone at any time claiming Mostyn as the messiah, I recall that even the most positive have said if that's the only choice then we need to take it, so don't come back on here using your one of many faces claiming you knew it all along, what a load of old bullcrap.
Hello, yes its me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO!
Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesnt have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego.
I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are)
I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO
Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOL
john coombes, Tiverton says...
11:11am Thu 3 Jul 08
ALL SEEING EYE wrote:no one can say at this time whether you are right or wrong, but the impression I get is that these men are more interested in the surrounding ground than in the football, as you seem to know so much perhaps you could tell me how long these people have supported the club or had any involvment with it
Hello, yes its me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO! Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesnt have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego. I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are) I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOL
ALL SEEING EYE, WESSEX says...
11:57am Thu 3 Jul 08
john coombes wrote:Money talks pal - get into the real world The new consortium cannot develop DC as there are covenants, but the consortium MAY find a way to develop surrounding area.
ALL SEEING EYE wrote: Hello, yes its me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO! Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesnt have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego. I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are) I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOLno one can say at this time whether you are right or wrong, but the impression I get is that these men are more interested in the surrounding ground than in the football, as you seem to know so much perhaps you could tell me how long these people have supported the club or had any involvment with it
frankfidler, florida usa says...
11:59am Thu 3 Jul 08
GMcMahon wrote:i repeat my earlier message the alan pither consortium have fallen out with krasner and will almost certainly not be involved anymore . i dont think we have said goodbye to mostyn, krasner and saverimuuto just yet
ALL SEEING EYE wrote:Do you have any idea who Pither is and who he represents? You have not been retired either we all know the many names you have used, not hard when you use the same insults with every one of them. What exactly does I told you so refer to, you have not told us anything, all you have ever done is attack Mostyn at every opportunity and call for the death of the club, if that's what you mean by your comments then your welcome to them. I also do not recall anyone calling Mostyn a messiah, If you refer to those of us who said we need to give the deal a chance then fine by me I stand by that, as will others, but I do not recall anyone at any time claiming Mostyn as the messiah, I recall that even the most positive have said if that's the only choice then we need to take it, so don't come back on here using your one of many faces claiming you knew it all along, what a load of old bullcrap.
Hello, yes its me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO!
Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesnt have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego.
I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are)
I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO
Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOL
ALL SEEING EYE, WESSEX says...
12:03pm Thu 3 Jul 08
GMcMahon wrote:Wow! Mrs McMahon you have got your knickers in a twist.
ALL SEEING EYE wrote: Hello, yes its me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO! Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesnt have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego. I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are) I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOLDo you have any idea who Pither is and who he represents? You have not been retired either we all know the many names you have used, not hard when you use the same insults with every one of them. What exactly does I told you so refer to, you have not told us anything, all you have ever done is attack Mostyn at every opportunity and call for the death of the club, if that's what you mean by your comments then your welcome to them. I also do not recall anyone calling Mostyn a messiah, If you refer to those of us who said we need to give the deal a chance then fine by me I stand by that, as will others, but I do not recall anyone at any time claiming Mostyn as the messiah, I recall that even the most positive have said if that's the only choice then we need to take it, so don't come back on here using your one of many faces claiming you knew it all along, what a load of old bullcrap.
mike clegg, bournemouth says...
12:12pm Thu 3 Jul 08
Jem in Adelaide, Redwood Park says...
12:29pm Thu 3 Jul 08
Jem in Adelaide, Redwood Park says...
2:18pm Thu 3 Jul 08
kevvo, The dog house again says...
3:34pm Thu 3 Jul 08
Jem in Adelaide wrote:And the realist would take it as it was written (although it was written by the Echo so a little bit of Licence please) It reads that Mostyn thinks this is as close as he is going to get.
BBC Football is reporting Mostyn will be speaking on Radio solent on saturday afternoon from 1400BST. He is quoted as saying "The offer that we have made to the administrator is as close as we are ever likely to get to a successful conclusion". I'm not quite sure what to read into that - the optimist would hang on they are getting close and the pessimist would be hearing close but not quite close enough.
kevvo, The dog house again says...
3:37pm Thu 3 Jul 08
mike clegg wrote:WOW what a CV fits in at this Club a treat
Lets all wait and see tomorrow. Jeff may have a master plan and a MULTI MILLIONAIRE ? I do not think Sport - 6 have any money ( check them out ) and Savi has not worked in Football for FIVE years ( check) 8 months at Everton 2003 as shop keeper ? sacked ? 1 month at Chester City 2007 sacked ( check ) So no money no experience ? Good luck Jeff , you need it !
john coombes, Tiverton says...
3:56pm Thu 3 Jul 08
ALL SEEING EYE wrote:the reason you knew is because you think you are such a clever ****, in your own mind you must be a legend, but the facts are we are faced with litle or no options whichever group gains control they cannot be trusted to do what is best for the club and football
john coombes wrote:Money talks pal - get into the real world The new consortium cannot develop DC as there are covenants, but the consortium MAY find a way to develop surrounding area. They did say they will run AFCB as a business, so if they can realise their costs from Development AROUND DC who is to blame them. You still have a football club which you wouldn't for long with Mostyn in charge, so just be thankful. The war for the club is over. The next war will be with the residents around DC and the proposed new growth area. Did someone once say many moons ago DEAN COURT GARDENS? now there was a prophecy. I wonder how I knew that was going to happen!ALL SEEING EYE wrote: Hello, yes its me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO! Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesnt have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego. I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are) I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOLno one can say at this time whether you are right or wrong, but the impression I get is that these men are more interested in the surrounding ground than in the football, as you seem to know so much perhaps you could tell me how long these people have supported the club or had any involvment with it
ALL SEEING EYE, WESSEX says...
4:20pm Thu 3 Jul 08
john coombes wrote:Of course you have an option you stupid person!
ALL SEEING EYE wrote:the reason you knew is because you think you are such a clever ****, in your own mind you must be a legend, but the facts are we are faced with litle or no options whichever group gains control they cannot be trusted to do what is best for the club and footballjohn coombes wrote:Money talks pal - get into the real world The new consortium cannot develop DC as there are covenants, but the consortium MAY find a way to develop surrounding area. They did say they will run AFCB as a business, so if they can realise their costs from Development AROUND DC who is to blame them. You still have a football club which you wouldn't for long with Mostyn in charge, so just be thankful. The war for the club is over. The next war will be with the residents around DC and the proposed new growth area. Did someone once say many moons ago DEAN COURT GARDENS? now there was a prophecy. I wonder how I knew that was going to happen!ALL SEEING EYE wrote: Hello, yes its me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO! Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesnt have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego. I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are) I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOLno one can say at this time whether you are right or wrong, but the impression I get is that these men are more interested in the surrounding ground than in the football, as you seem to know so much perhaps you could tell me how long these people have supported the club or had any involvment with it
GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
5:00pm Thu 3 Jul 08
ALL SEEING EYE wrote:We can tell all smelling arse is back the stench on here is overwhelming.
john coombes wrote:Of course you have an option you stupid person!
ALL SEEING EYE wrote:the reason you knew is because you think you are such a clever ****, in your own mind you must be a legend, but the facts are we are faced with litle or no options whichever group gains control they cannot be trusted to do what is best for the club and footballjohn coombes wrote:Money talks pal - get into the real world The new consortium cannot develop DC as there are covenants, but the consortium MAY find a way to develop surrounding area. They did say they will run AFCB as a business, so if they can realise their costs from Development AROUND DC who is to blame them. You still have a football club which you wouldn't for long with Mostyn in charge, so just be thankful. The war for the club is over. The next war will be with the residents around DC and the proposed new growth area. Did someone once say many moons ago DEAN COURT GARDENS? now there was a prophecy. I wonder how I knew that was going to happen!ALL SEEING EYE wrote: Hello, yes its me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO! Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesnt have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego. I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are) I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOLno one can say at this time whether you are right or wrong, but the impression I get is that these men are more interested in the surrounding ground than in the football, as you seem to know so much perhaps you could tell me how long these people have supported the club or had any involvment with it
Just stop going and support another local team thats one option the other is to shut up and put up! OK?
Youre as bad as Mrs
McMahon and her son Andy_roo.
GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
5:03pm Thu 3 Jul 08
elvispresleysking, Bristol says...
8:32pm Thu 3 Jul 08
GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
7:44am Fri 4 Jul 08
elvispresleysking wrote:We are all thinking the same thing, well nearly all of us are.
Can somebody enlighten me on something that was in Mr Pither's statement yesterday?
As I understand it from AP's statement yesterday JM and AP were partners in a consortium to buy AFCB since 6 weeks ago. However they have now split yet AP states
"We want to buy the club and it's a proper bid. The money to buy the club is still sitting with my lawyer and it was there under the old offer."
Now this raises the question if the JM/AP consortium money was AP's and he's now using this for a rival bid what is JM using to buy the club? Also if he has got AS and his Sport-6 as a new consortium backing his bid surely this means that his original bid is dead and therefore he can't buy the club so GK(of Beggar's belief) should have opened the club up for sale again, thus paving the way for AP's consortium to lead the way.
I can't see how a bid to buy a football club from a consortium can continue to be valid when you have more partners than Liz Taylor!
Reading between the lines I feel that JM hasn't got the finances in place to take AFCB forward and the fact that his statement about his proposal to the FL was so 'open-ended' shows this.
I do fear for your clubs future. Being a supporter of Bristol Rovers I know what it's like to support a club that hasn't got it's own ground or anyway of increasing revenue. Thankfully for us that has now been resolved but only due to the finacial plight of our rugby side. Should your deal go through and you don't own DC at the end of it, something that surely JM must have made paramount in his bid for the club, then I can't see AFCB surviving beyond 18 months especially if AP has, as stated, been purchasing the area around the ground.
Anyway good luck for the future, I fear you are going to need a lot of it!
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kevvo, The dog house again says...
7:51am Wed 2 Jul 08