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RIVAL BIDDER SPEAKS OUT

7:00am Wednesday 2nd July 2008

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ALAN Pither claims his 11th hour rival bid to buy Cherries is the club's answer to a secure future.

Pither, along with partners Gerard Day and Melvyn Newman, last night decided to go public in an exclusive interview with the Echo after Cherries administrator Gerald Krasner revealed a fresh bid to buy the club was placed on the table on Monday night.

Day is a St Albans-based finance expert, while Newman is one of the country's biggest fruit farmers and lives in Canterbury.

However, while Krasner would not be drawn on the names of those behind the new offer at yesterday's press conference, Pither, the frontman of Bournemouth Holdings Ltd, a new company set up last month with the sole purpose of acquiring the football club, has decided to speak out.

The Echo understands Pither has provided substantial funding, along with Mostyn, to pay wages recently, with Pither, Day and Newman believed to have been the main money men behind preferred bidder Mostyn's consortium up until last week.

Relations, however, apparently turned sour before last Tuesday's delayed press conference.

That sparked Pither to make his own bid for the ailing club on Monday, with Mostyn now understood to be working with a new consortium put together with the help of new Cherries chief executive Alistair Saverimutto and his Sport-6 marketing company.

Saverimutto and Sport-6 had previously expressed an interest in fronting up a bid for both Chester City and, it is understood, Luton Town before linking up with Mostyn more recently.

Pither revealed last night that Bournemouth Holdings had struck a deal with New Milton-based Parkcrest Construction for the land behind Dean Court's East Stand and the option on the land behind the South Stand. The deal is now understood to be going through the legal process.

Pither told the Echo: "We've been involved with the club on and off since November, but Jeff (Mostyn) came to us six weeks ago because he had nobody else to go to and we put a deal together.

"I've been in the club for the past five weeks, three days a week, and I was introduced to the staff three weeks ago as the new owner. On Thursday I got a call from Jeff saying, I'm going to do this deal on my own'."

Pither would not be drawn on rumours of a disagreement on funding between Krasner and the consortium as it stood last week, but Krasner, in yesterday's press briefing, said: "The deal I've had to strike to pay the wages last week is that I needed some money and people who've given me the money have the right to exclusivity. When I asked other people at the same time, Are you prepared to up your offer to give me money?' the answer was, We're not in a position to do that'."

When asked whether his bid was made in anger after the split with Mostyn, Pither replied: "There was a lot of people out there who wanted to steal' the club for £1 and with the inside track we had, we could have been one of them.

"But we weren't and we've got the best interests of the club at heart. Our bid, I believe, is the best one for the club.

"We want to buy the club and it's a proper bid. The money to buy the club is still sitting with my lawyer and it was there under the old offer."

On the land deal with Parkcrest, Pither added: "I'm in the process of buying the land behind the East Stand and the option on the land behind the South Stand. Those deals are going through the legal process.

"I told Parkcrest the plans we had for the land, we'll probably get them to do the build, and we will stick half the profits back into the club.

"I'd like to take the club forward and, with regard to the property deals, even if I'm not the owner, I'm not saying I wouldn't put any of that money back into the club.

"But I don't want any bad press for the club going forward and if Jeff is the one who takes it forward then I hope he makes a success of it."

Administrator Krasner confirmed Pither's consortium as the new bidders when contacted by the Echo last night. Mostyn declined to comment in a phone call from the Echo last night.

Krasner, meanwhile, is understood to have given Mostyn a deadline of Friday for further funding.


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kevvo, The dog house again says...
7:51am Wed 2 Jul 08

Jeff doesnt seem to be able to keep his Business Partners for long does he hmmm

kevvo, The dog house again says...
8:03am Wed 2 Jul 08

Forgive me for asking but if Mr savermutto is now employed by the Club on a 6 figure salary as stated in the other post. In the unlikely event that krassner allows this alternative bid to be given a level chance and it succeeds sure Mr Savermuto will then be an employee of a rival bidder. With that in mind wouldnt it have been wiser to delay Mr Savermuttos appointment until Jeff had actually got the Club. And the other point I would like to raise is If this new bidder was the Money behind Jeffs bid as this says and the money is still with Lawyers one would assume that the bid financialy at least is the same as Jeffs bid but as Mr Krassner says quite clearly that Jeffs bid is higher , has Jeff increased his bid. All very strange I think

brian, Blandford says...
8:19am Wed 2 Jul 08

I think the time has come to stop trying to understand the comings and goings at Dean Court. It is little more than a bad pantomime. You can make your mind up about who to cast in the roles of Dame, Ugly sisters, Baddy and Fairy Godmother. Just hope that, like all pantomimes, it turns out alright in the end!

GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
9:04am Wed 2 Jul 08

So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.

kenno, Sidmouth says...
9:09am Wed 2 Jul 08

In my business dealings whenever the words "we want this business to be successful" followed by the mention of "property deals" used to bring the phrase "words and figures differ" to mind,and a shiver down my spine.
Personally I couldn't care less if mickey mouse wanted to buy the club as long as his heart was in the right place and he was prepared to clear all our debts, put in place a workable business plan, and enough money to pay the wages and bring in a few quality players.
I just want to be able to support my football team.
Perhaps the sadness in this day and age is that ulterior motives usually come first rather than the other way around.


Paul W, Charminster, Bomo says...
9:18am Wed 2 Jul 08

A fruit farmer from Canterbury? Seriously

Guys...these people are after the land and mayeb a pick-ur-own on the pitch.

We can't do with anymore messing about - im starting to feel sorry for Mostyn which is a very bad sign!

kevvo, The dog house again says...
9:49am Wed 2 Jul 08

GMcMahon wrote:
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
Yes its not looking good is it. And you are right Mostyn seems to want to keep everything close to his chest Mind you he keeps changing his partners so no wonder he cant make a statement sounds like he was ready to announce his plans with the Bmth Holdings lot last Tuesday but something happeneed that made him jump ship.
I know you think I am negative and maybe I am but I want this Club to survive long term and this bloke worries me because he is messing about with the future of this Club and as you said a while back its getting to be to late and we will have to accept anything just to keep going. I dont trust Mostyn and this has done nothing to make me change my mind.

fletcher4manager, SP6 says...
9:53am Wed 2 Jul 08

I just feel, there are so many things being kept from the fans, I have a horrible feeling its all going to go even more belly up than it already is. Anyone else got the feeling we will still be in admin for a long time yet?

ondulado, bournemouth says...
9:55am Wed 2 Jul 08

Why would someone come in so late with a bid that isn't as good as Mostyns bid ? It doesn't make any sense if we are to believe what is being said. A serious bidder would ensure that his bid was better otherwise what's the point? I thought the deal was done and dusted and because of that i happily sent off for my season ticket at the weekend. Now I am worried again by all this and hope i have not just sent another few hundred quid down the pan!

anton, uk says...
10:05am Wed 2 Jul 08

Mostyn seems to come out of this as egotistical, greedy and untrustworthy. If I were a sponsor I would not do business with someone who seems so apt to stabbing business partners in the back.

kevvo, The dog house again says...
10:07am Wed 2 Jul 08

GMcMahon wrote:
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
Now perhaps you can see I wasnt so negative about Mostyn. He may be the Saviour of the Club (I doubt it) but even if he is the way he goes about things is terrible. He keeps losing partners he gets preffered status without making a bid and now it still looks like he is going to pull the plug. Your last paragraph just about sums it up . Beware of People with false promises. Mostyn doesnt have the money for any long term commitment to take this Club forward and this Pither bloke seems to have the aces by getting the land . This is really twisting and turning by the day and I honestly think that if Mostyn doesnt give Krassner money on Friday he will show that he is walking which he said he would never do.
I may be talking a lot of rot but I cant get my head round all this deciept and hype WHY CANT THE ECHO SUB THE REPORTING OUT TO PROPER JOURNOS

kevvo, The dog house again says...
10:09am Wed 2 Jul 08

anton wrote:
Mostyn seems to come out of this as egotistical, greedy and untrustworthy. If I were a sponsor I would not do business with someone who seems so apt to stabbing business partners in the back.
Spot on when you consider that he seems to change partners as often as he changes his underpants who could have confidence in him.

kevvo, The dog house again says...
10:13am Wed 2 Jul 08

ondulado wrote:
Why would someone come in so late with a bid that isn't as good as Mostyns bid ? It doesn't make any sense if we are to believe what is being said. A serious bidder would ensure that his bid was better otherwise what's the point? I thought the deal was done and dusted and because of that i happily sent off for my season ticket at the weekend. Now I am worried again by all this and hope i have not just sent another few hundred quid down the pan!
Agreed thats the bit I dont get apparantly the money is with Lawyers and its the money that was going to be used for the Mostyn bid that was accepted before Jeff changed partners again.
So how on earth can it be less unless Mostyns new Pals offered more. Another thing is how can the Administrator accept a bid and then allow it to continue when the funding is in the hands of a partner that is no longer in the consortium surely thay would all have to bid again.

frankfidler, florida usa says...
11:37am Wed 2 Jul 08

any plans for hotel, casino and offices on land been submitted?

GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
11:49am Wed 2 Jul 08

kevvo wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
Now perhaps you can see I wasnt so negative about Mostyn. He may be the Saviour of the Club (I doubt it) but even if he is the way he goes about things is terrible. He keeps losing partners he gets preffered status without making a bid and now it still looks like he is going to pull the plug. Your last paragraph just about sums it up . Beware of People with false promises. Mostyn doesnt have the money for any long term commitment to take this Club forward and this Pither bloke seems to have the aces by getting the land . This is really twisting and turning by the day and I honestly think that if Mostyn doesnt give Krassner money on Friday he will show that he is walking which he said he would never do.
I may be talking a lot of rot but I cant get my head round all this deciept and hype WHY CANT THE ECHO SUB THE REPORTING OUT TO PROPER JOURNOS
And now you can see I was not joking when I said there were deals being done and other investors were about and Mostyn was not the money, so we have all been taken for a ride in my honest opinion, I said we needed to back any deal that saves the club it looks like Jeff was thinking the same thing, he's been lining up these deals and then when they find out what he wants out of it they jump ship, even as recently as last week, no wonder that press conference said nothing and was delayed. I seriously hope this does come to and end Friday, I still get the very strong feeling that when we do come out of administration Jeff Mostyn will not be the one doing it, didn't he say as long ago as February that if a better deal came in he would step aside, well if ever there looked like that happening the news today is strongly suggesting just that. All very clever stuff, no wonder it's been so quiet for so long.

brock_and_roll, Brock says...
12:02pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Looks to me that Pither has pulled a fast one here by doing a deal direct with Krasner to buy the land.

The wording on Pither's statement gives the impression that this is a done deal and is going ahead. Without the land, I would have throught that the chances of Mostyn being able to find more funders is just about nil.

Therefore, although Mostyn's bid is currently higher, it looks likely that he will not be able to meet the deadline to secure the funding. Pither will therefore pay £X for the land and £1 for the club (which is all its worth without the land). Mostyn will then have to get in a queue with all the other creditors for his share of the total whatever that is.

Not looking good to be honest - if the league had the balls they would chuck us out the league for these kind of schenanigans.

kevvo, The dog house again says...
12:08pm Wed 2 Jul 08

GMcMahon wrote:
kevvo wrote:
GMcMahon wrote: So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
Now perhaps you can see I wasnt so negative about Mostyn. He may be the Saviour of the Club (I doubt it) but even if he is the way he goes about things is terrible. He keeps losing partners he gets preffered status without making a bid and now it still looks like he is going to pull the plug. Your last paragraph just about sums it up . Beware of People with false promises. Mostyn doesnt have the money for any long term commitment to take this Club forward and this Pither bloke seems to have the aces by getting the land . This is really twisting and turning by the day and I honestly think that if Mostyn doesnt give Krassner money on Friday he will show that he is walking which he said he would never do. I may be talking a lot of rot but I cant get my head round all this deciept and hype WHY CANT THE ECHO SUB THE REPORTING OUT TO PROPER JOURNOS
And now you can see I was not joking when I said there were deals being done and other investors were about and Mostyn was not the money, so we have all been taken for a ride in my honest opinion, I said we needed to back any deal that saves the club it looks like Jeff was thinking the same thing, he's been lining up these deals and then when they find out what he wants out of it they jump ship, even as recently as last week, no wonder that press conference said nothing and was delayed. I seriously hope this does come to and end Friday, I still get the very strong feeling that when we do come out of administration Jeff Mostyn will not be the one doing it, didn't he say as long ago as February that if a better deal came in he would step aside, well if ever there looked like that happening the news today is strongly suggesting just that. All very clever stuff, no wonder it's been so quiet for so long.
I think that jeff saying he would step aside was wishfull thinking hoping that he could attract someone to get him out of the mess he helped to create. Anyway its all academic now I just hope we get out of this mess time is running out and every day is costing a fortune now its not only Krassners fees it this new CE as well . You can see my point cant you if this CE is on salary which Mostyn and Krassner say he is and this other bloke gets it we will have a CE working for the rivals unless they sack him of course . No you are right there is something else going on here looks like a deal has already been struck in my opinion

kevvo, The dog house again says...
12:16pm Wed 2 Jul 08

brock_and_roll wrote:
Looks to me that Pither has pulled a fast one here by doing a deal direct with Krasner to buy the land. The wording on Pither's statement gives the impression that this is a done deal and is going ahead. Without the land, I would have throught that the chances of Mostyn being able to find more funders is just about nil. Therefore, although Mostyn's bid is currently higher, it looks likely that he will not be able to meet the deadline to secure the funding. Pither will therefore pay £X for the land and £1 for the club (which is all its worth without the land). Mostyn will then have to get in a queue with all the other creditors for his share of the total whatever that is. Not looking good to be honest - if the league had the balls they would chuck us out the league for these kind of schenanigans.
It didnt make sense to me that someone would come in with a lower offer than Mostyn until I read your post . Now it makes perfect sense I wonder what the next twist will be.

kevvo, The dog house again says...
12:20pm Wed 2 Jul 08

kevvo wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
kevvo wrote:
GMcMahon wrote: So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
Now perhaps you can see I wasnt so negative about Mostyn. He may be the Saviour of the Club (I doubt it) but even if he is the way he goes about things is terrible. He keeps losing partners he gets preffered status without making a bid and now it still looks like he is going to pull the plug. Your last paragraph just about sums it up . Beware of People with false promises. Mostyn doesnt have the money for any long term commitment to take this Club forward and this Pither bloke seems to have the aces by getting the land . This is really twisting and turning by the day and I honestly think that if Mostyn doesnt give Krassner money on Friday he will show that he is walking which he said he would never do. I may be talking a lot of rot but I cant get my head round all this deciept and hype WHY CANT THE ECHO SUB THE REPORTING OUT TO PROPER JOURNOS
And now you can see I was not joking when I said there were deals being done and other investors were about and Mostyn was not the money, so we have all been taken for a ride in my honest opinion, I said we needed to back any deal that saves the club it looks like Jeff was thinking the same thing, he's been lining up these deals and then when they find out what he wants out of it they jump ship, even as recently as last week, no wonder that press conference said nothing and was delayed. I seriously hope this does come to and end Friday, I still get the very strong feeling that when we do come out of administration Jeff Mostyn will not be the one doing it, didn't he say as long ago as February that if a better deal came in he would step aside, well if ever there looked like that happening the news today is strongly suggesting just that. All very clever stuff, no wonder it's been so quiet for so long.
I think that jeff saying he would step aside was wishfull thinking hoping that he could attract someone to get him out of the mess he helped to create. Anyway its all academic now I just hope we get out of this mess time is running out and every day is costing a fortune now its not only Krassners fees it this new CE as well . You can see my point cant you if this CE is on salary which Mostyn and Krassner say he is and this other bloke gets it we will have a CE working for the rivals unless they sack him of course . No you are right there is something else going on here looks like a deal has already been struck in my opinion
But not sure who is dealing with who !!!!!

kevvo, The dog house again says...
12:24pm Wed 2 Jul 08

One interesting point We were led to believe that the funding for wages ect was coming out of Mostyns pocket and not wishing to bloke his path to Sainthood now we find that Pither has put money in as well How strange

dunk, Bournemouth says...
12:35pm Wed 2 Jul 08

What a mess...surely none of the bidders we've had expected to make any profit and the main reason they want to take over is for the love of the club / ego trip. If they all worked together we'd have a much better hope going forward because all these nearly men give me the strong impression they are in over their heads....

smhinto, Lincoln says...
12:45pm Wed 2 Jul 08

I am still concerned that any deal for AFCB is merely, or appears to be, JUST to bail the club out enabling it JUST to survive!!. (i.e. 1 million appears to be the muted figure for AFCB).

I have stated this before about what sort of sum is maybe, or alledgedly required to take this club FORWARD i.e. the 6 million invested by the Doncaster chairman enabling them the achieve three promotions in five years to get into the Championship.

It appears to me that the powers that be around AFCB are just content with the club to just flounder around in League 'diddly' Two with the odd flirtation with League One here and there and the Championship being a mere fantasy.

Furthermore, are there any plans to buy back the stadium in Mostyn's bid ??? or are there plans to buy back the club shop that was sold off ??? or indeed the catering facilities that were alledgedly sold off too ??.

Looking at the wider picture, it just riles and baffles me as to WHY with the Bournemouth and Poole area being one of the most affluent parts of the country we are and always been, struggling to find investors to take the club forward. Yet small mining town clubs such as the likes of Doncaster and one or two others over the years there were people queing up to to rescue them etc.

Perhaps it's typical southern 'pompousness' and 'snobbery' with the attitude that there are more things or important things to do in Bournemouth than go to a football match. I have a feeling that the town Council and their 'blue rinse following' would love the club to go under just to get rid of us!!!

Apparently, if the club did go under does anybody relaise that Bounemouth would be the largest town in the country without Football League representation - frightening!!.

It just goes to show just how far this club has been allowed to fall....

Regards

lferrone, Boscombe East says...
12:55pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Hey guys! Look at this from a positive side the man could be a CHERRY GROWER! Seriously though. Could someone wake me up from this nightmare and tell me that it wall be alright in that first Saturday in August.

lferrone, Boscombe East says...
12:57pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Whoops should have checked the spelling first!!!
Hey guys! Look at this from a positive side the man could be a CHERRY GROWER! Seriously though. Could someone wake me up from this nightmare and tell me that it will be all right in that first Saturday in August.

Thomas Griffiths., 12 Wiltshire Gardens, Bransgore, Christchurch, Dorset. BH23 8BJ says...
1:00pm Wed 2 Jul 08

As a "Cherries" supporter since 1962 & one of the £100 shareholders it is easy to understand the effect all this turmmoil is having on the "Genuine" supporter of AFCB.
I am 86 years old & due to the attentions of Arthur Ritus am now unable to attend matches, but have been very impressed with most of the very worthy comments posted on this website. I do wonder if Mr. Mostyn or Mr. Krasner take time to read them.All we need is fair & honest facts,good or bad. We value our football club very highly & need to know urgently, whether or not, we are to lose this very important part of our lives.It is not only about the football aspect but also the friendship that is created among supporters, a social meeting place on match days, which we all look forward to. To sum up I think the supporters of AFCB have been let down by the lack of positive information relating to this long and still ongoing Saga. Why all the secrecy? Our interest is genuine. It is our Club!!!!.

lferrone, Boscombe East says...
1:14pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Thomas Griffiths. wrote:
As a "Cherries" supporter since 1962 & one of the £100 shareholders it is easy to understand the effect all this turmmoil is having on the "Genuine" supporter of AFCB. I am 86 years old & due to the attentions of Arthur Ritus am now unable to attend matches, but have been very impressed with most of the very worthy comments posted on this website. I do wonder if Mr. Mostyn or Mr. Krasner take time to read them.All we need is fair & honest facts,good or bad. We value our football club very highly & need to know urgently, whether or not, we are to lose this very important part of our lives.It is not only about the football aspect but also the friendship that is created among supporters, a social meeting place on match days, which we all look forward to. To sum up I think the supporters of AFCB have been let down by the lack of positive information relating to this long and still ongoing Saga. Why all the secrecy? Our interest is genuine. It is our Club!!!!.
First of all may I congratulate you on your wonderful age and say that we all hope that Arthur will leave you alone sufficiently for you to be able to come and watch football again (if I can be of help I will be happy to fetch you and take you home on match days). I wholeheartedly agree with you about honesty and truth it is about time we were given more facts instead of having to guess about the wheeling and dealing which is going on at the moment.

Thomas Griffiths., 12 Wiltshire Gardens, Bransgore, Christchurch, Dorset. BH23 8BJ says...
1:31pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Sorry about the typing error "Turmoil" put it down to age!!

Simon, London says...
1:39pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Don't worry Thomas - I salute you. I know that we sometimes slag off the 'blue rinse' brigade for not wanting the club to thrive - but these are usually people who have moved into the area. There are many senior citizens who have watched AFCB over the years and I know my grandmother would turn in her grave if she knew the club was in so much trouble. The ever present 'non support' from local businessmen and the council is a running theme, will it ever change? It might when one of us lot wins the Euromillions draw!! Best of luck with Arthur - hope you can get to a game soon. Good shout Iferrone too.

Thomas Griffiths., 12 Wiltshire Gardens, Bransgore, Christchurch, Dorset. BH23 8BJ says...
1:50pm Wed 2 Jul 08

My grateful thanks to Iforone but I find difficulty in coping with steps and getting up and down from a sitting position.Just proves my point about football friendship!!!

lferrone, Boscombe East says...
2:04pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Thomas it would be my pleasure to help. I took a disabled lad to all the home games for 13 years before he sadly died. He used a wheelchair the club has facilities for anyone in wheelchairs so you would not have to climb stairs so don’t let that put you off from coming. Maybe I will find a way of given you my contact phone number without posting it here on this site. Maybe if he Echo is reading this they might put us in touch with one and other. Please don’t let the steps/stairs hold you back.

Throopmill, Mt Everest says...
2:08pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Mostyn must have bad breath , he seems to drive away partners very quickly?

I wonder if it is his remarkable communication skills that are coming to the fore?

Mostyn is not good for the club!

kenno, Sidmouth says...
2:10pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Thomas, do you have a large back garden? It may solve two problems in one if our market gardener from Canterbury gets in and allows Hugh Fearnley-Whatshisnam
e to fill our stadium with free range chickens.
Did I hear someone yell FOUL?

kevvo, The dog house again says...
2:18pm Wed 2 Jul 08

lferrone wrote:
Thomas Griffiths. wrote: As a "Cherries" supporter since 1962 & one of the £100 shareholders it is easy to understand the effect all this turmmoil is having on the "Genuine" supporter of AFCB. I am 86 years old & due to the attentions of Arthur Ritus am now unable to attend matches, but have been very impressed with most of the very worthy comments posted on this website. I do wonder if Mr. Mostyn or Mr. Krasner take time to read them.All we need is fair & honest facts,good or bad. We value our football club very highly & need to know urgently, whether or not, we are to lose this very important part of our lives.It is not only about the football aspect but also the friendship that is created among supporters, a social meeting place on match days, which we all look forward to. To sum up I think the supporters of AFCB have been let down by the lack of positive information relating to this long and still ongoing Saga. Why all the secrecy? Our interest is genuine. It is our Club!!!!.
First of all may I congratulate you on your wonderful age and say that we all hope that Arthur will leave you alone sufficiently for you to be able to come and watch football again (if I can be of help I will be happy to fetch you and take you home on match days). I wholeheartedly agree with you about honesty and truth it is about time we were given more facts instead of having to guess about the wheeling and dealing which is going on at the moment.
Well said Thomas despite the minor disagreements on here we all want the same thing for the Club a secure future and hopefully a bit of entertainment. If any of the prospective Directors lower themselves to read this give Thomas a free season Ticket and well done Iferrone for the wonderfull gesture and I am sure the rest of us will gladly help as well. Word of warning though Thomas dont tell the AFCB Board you have Arthritis if you get a seat in the stand they may mistke you for Russ Perrett who unlike yourself has done very little for our Club except draw his pay.
Not quite as mobile as you though just a joke no offence intended . Come along we will get you in

kevvo, The dog house again says...
2:20pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Throopmill wrote:
Mostyn must have bad breath , he seems to drive away partners very quickly? I wonder if it is his remarkable communication skills that are coming to the fore? Mostyn is not good for the club!
He used to talk to himself but he walked away from himself in disgust and was unavailable for comment

QUEUE, EVERYWHERE says...
2:29pm Wed 2 Jul 08

GMcMahon has so much egg on his face he could feed the whole of Bournemouth!
Does he really know anything about business and football?

Just watch Andy_roo and GMcMahon back off of telling how wonderful their mate Jeff is! These two idiots couldn’t see the wood for the trees, it is so obvious that Mostyn wants out BUT wants his money back - hence he keeps upsetting his many consortium members at the last minute so they back off. He must have had knowledge that Mr Mystery was coming in at the last minute to bail Mostyn out.

peacelover08, South of England says...
2:51pm Wed 2 Jul 08

There are some excellent posts on here from real supporters who are genuinely concerned about the future of our club. For months now I have raised many questions over the credibility of Mostyn and Sly, and their actions, When will the supporters wake up to what is happening, the last five months have seen some of the most appalling mis managment of all time, totally driven by self interest. The whole administration process has been influenced by Mostyn, and no one has challenged the situation. Our club is in appalling mess, it is dying before our very eyes and no one is asking what is happening, or why or what the outcomes are going to be, as to supporters we are told nothing, our representives on the ST just seem to support Mostyn, they never ask the searching questions, Has Mostyn and Sly delivered on anything they have promised........NO, there only achievements are to take the club into administration with no exit strategy, and relegation, so much for the bright future they promised!, now the very future of the club is at risk, and no one is challenging the administrator or Mostyn/Sly. This whole episode is disgraceful, and should be fully investigated. As a life long supporter I have never been so disolutioned as I am now, not even the dark days of the late 70s in Div 4 compare with what has happened at our club in the last 12 months.

john coombes, Tiverton says...
2:59pm Wed 2 Jul 08

peacelover08 wrote:
There are some excellent posts on here from real supporters who are genuinely concerned about the future of our club. For months now I have raised many questions over the credibility of Mostyn and Sly, and their actions, When will the supporters wake up to what is happening, the last five months have seen some of the most appalling mis managment of all time, totally driven by self interest. The whole administration process has been influenced by Mostyn, and no one has challenged the situation. Our club is in appalling mess, it is dying before our very eyes and no one is asking what is happening, or why or what the outcomes are going to be, as to supporters we are told nothing, our representives on the ST just seem to support Mostyn, they never ask the searching questions, Has Mostyn and Sly delivered on anything they have promised........NO, there only achievements are to take the club into administration with no exit strategy, and relegation, so much for the bright future they promised!, now the very future of the club is at risk, and no one is challenging the administrator or Mostyn/Sly. This whole episode is disgraceful, and should be fully investigated. As a life long supporter I have never been so disolutioned as I am now, not even the dark days of the late 70s in Div 4 compare with what has happened at our club in the last 12 months.
I have to agree with your posting, and they do themselves no favours with this :no comment: stance, they have appointed a chief executive who is now in a position to speak for them,although I cannot for the life of me see what powers he has or what he can achieve in this situation, I agree the 70s were difficult times but never as aimless and without leadership as at these times

hba1, Southampton says...
3:20pm Wed 2 Jul 08

The biggest problem is that Krasner calls the shots. I have never trusted his cosy cosy relationship with Jeff when is a share a loan or not.

Thomas Griffiths., 12 Wiltshire Gardens, Bransgore, Christchurch, Dorset. BH23 8BJ says...
4:15pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Further to my recent comments on the AFCB saga I am sorry to have given the impression that I am seriously disabled by my mentioning Arthur Ritus. The response of "Iforone" was a wonderful gesture but I am still able to drive and apart from walking over 50 yards I can cope.I have had my share of enjoyment at AFCB
matches over the years and would like to think that such a pleasure is available for the younger people.For myself I say "Three cheers for Radio Solent"

GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
4:57pm Wed 2 Jul 08

QUEUE wrote:
GMcMahon has so much egg on his face he could feed the whole of Bournemouth!
Does he really know anything about business and football?

Just watch Andy_roo and GMcMahon back off of telling how wonderful their mate Jeff is! These two idiots couldn’t see the wood for the trees, it is so obvious that Mostyn wants out BUT wants his money back - hence he keeps upsetting his many consortium members at the last minute so they back off. He must have had knowledge that Mr Mystery was coming in at the last minute to bail Mostyn out.
How many more times I do not support Mostyn, I see you have changed your name again though, and I like egg so no problem their, even those I have argued with all know I do not support Jeff, I have only ever said I support a deal that saves the club and if that is Jeff then so be it, stop trying to put words into my mouth and stop trying to stir up an argument that just is not valid.

Wolfstan, Bournemouth says...
5:27pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Sorry guys, I don't think the club stands a chance. I personally believe all the potential bidders are in it line their own pockets, with no interest in the club. I mean does this sort of thing go on when you buy a car or a house? The club is valued at "x" of millions, a buyer comes along and pays the administrator the money, job done. At the moment all the bids have the "money" on paper, which means they have bugger all, they are relying on a group of others to lend them the barest amount to get by. They will then run up more debts, writing them off against the club and then develope the land. It's the oldest con under the sun. I would also suggest that the regulatory department in charge of administrators takes a close look as well. Too many eye patches and parrots around here for my liking.

Throopmill, Mt Everest says...
6:00pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Mostyn out !

peacelover08, South of England says...
6:03pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Good post wolfstan, my own view is that the FA or FL should launch a full and very thorough investigation of what has gone at this club throughout this period of administration, and the period prior to administration. I am told that the FA and FL have stringent regulatory requirements, I just hope those running the club are not in breach of them. I believe the club is more at risk today than ever before, and I just wish someone would start asking the difficult questions, and find out what really has gone on

john coombes, Tiverton says...
6:47pm Wed 2 Jul 08

could anyone please telly me who the three gentlemen connected with the new bid are, and what previous connection they have with the club if any, I personally have never heard their names before

frankfidler, florida usa says...
6:50pm Wed 2 Jul 08

as concerned afc fans we do not have enough information what is going on behind the scenes. as caring fans our football club plays a very significant part in our lives.personally the first thing when i turn on when i wake up in the morning is not my wife but my pc to read the sports pages of the echo. i just hope and prey that comes the new season we will have a viable football club to support. welcolme aboard mr pither. please save our club take it forward so that all us fans will have something to shout about. come on you cherries!

kevvo, The dog house again says...
6:55pm Wed 2 Jul 08

peacelover08 wrote:
There are some excellent posts on here from real supporters who are genuinely concerned about the future of our club. For months now I have raised many questions over the credibility of Mostyn and Sly, and their actions, When will the supporters wake up to what is happening, the last five months have seen some of the most appalling mis managment of all time, totally driven by self interest. The whole administration process has been influenced by Mostyn, and no one has challenged the situation. Our club is in appalling mess, it is dying before our very eyes and no one is asking what is happening, or why or what the outcomes are going to be, as to supporters we are told nothing, our representives on the ST just seem to support Mostyn, they never ask the searching questions, Has Mostyn and Sly delivered on anything they have promised........NO, there only achievements are to take the club into administration with no exit strategy, and relegation, so much for the bright future they promised!, now the very future of the club is at risk, and no one is challenging the administrator or Mostyn/Sly. This whole episode is disgraceful, and should be fully investigated. As a life long supporter I have never been so disolutioned as I am now, not even the dark days of the late 70s in Div 4 compare with what has happened at our club in the last 12 months.
Good Post Peacelover08 I know I am going to get slated for this but in my opinion I never trusted Mostyn I tried to give him a chance got slated for that as well but saw through this nonsense This Man has done nothing but destroy He has only invested to stop others getting hold of the Club for reasons best known to himself . I am convinced that this Man has not been, is not and never will be a friend of this Football Club. I just hope that if we survive and its still a big if that the FA investigate the way this whole episode has been conducted and do what they can to prevent it happening to any other Clubs

frankfidler, florida usa says...
6:57pm Wed 2 Jul 08

GMcMahon wrote:
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
gmcmahon you seem to be the best informed of us all. can u find out from bournemouth planning office of plans submitted of lands being purchased. it seems to me jeff mostyn is now a figurehead .

kevvo, The dog house again says...
7:00pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Throopmill wrote:
Mostyn out !
I think Mostyn agreed with this from the very start You have stuck with that and it looks like you are right good on ya

kevvo, The dog house again says...
7:12pm Wed 2 Jul 08

dunk wrote:
What a mess...surely none of the bidders we've had expected to make any profit and the main reason they want to take over is for the love of the club / ego trip. If they all worked together we'd have a much better hope going forward because all these nearly men give me the strong impression they are in over their heads....
Well they tried to work with Mostyn didnt they but he wont play ball with them . I think the problem is we are applying our logic as Supporters to all this e.g Passion no chance of making a profit whereas these Guys Jeff included are looking at what they can get rid of whats worth what and how cheap can they get the Club for. I honestly believe that if the Club owned the Ground and the land It would have been purchased by now and the blueprints drawn up for its future use. THese People dont give a stuff about the Club. If Jeff was the friend to the Club that some think he is he wouldnt have allowed this to go on by pulling out of deals ect. Its all about money or lack of it.

kevvo, The dog house again says...
7:28pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Good Old Selfless Jeff Saviour of Bournemouth Football Club says
I'd like to think that the offer we have made to the administrator that we're progressing now is as close as we're ever likely to get to a successful conclusion," Mostyn said.

Well Jeff you are obviously not expecting it to suceed then if this is as close as you are going to get is this an Echo misprint or the truth for a change

Wolfstan, Bournemouth says...
7:28pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Sorry for being a bit dense here, but I generally only get the Echo on a Thursday or when catching the bus home.
So I was under the impression that Mostyn had won the bid 2 or 3 months ago, and therefore the club was sorted out
on the finance front. So last night I hear a story on the radio about another bid!?! Intriged I take a look at the Echo site today
and read through the stories... what a complete mess!?! I'm not a football fan, but I do feel real sorry for the AFC fans
over this.

Surely what is happening here can't be right or proper? I mean if Mostyn had been accepted 2-3 months ago, why has it
changed. In my previous post I said about "money" on paper, is this what has happened. Mostyn won the bid on a promise?
Does this mean that his group have been allowed to manage the club and make financial purchases based on the
promise of finance to come? How are these costs meet? Are they added to the outstanding debt, allowing the group
to live the high life with no danger of comeback financially? If the club is still being handled by the administrator, why
are the group members involved in anything with the running of the club, as technically their payment is "on paper".
What time scale is involved in final settlement and hand over of the club to the new owner?

Added to all of this you have a new bid, so does this mean that the original bid by Mostyn is being honoured, is
agreed finance not coming forth? Does this mean that the club will have to go through the same process again?
Allowing the "new" potential buyers to present themselves to the world as footbal club "owners", with out none
of the financial commitment.

I believe the fans need some straight answers, people need to know what is actually going on here. I would suggest
that The Echo does some proper digging and bring this whole situation out into the light. To me, my gut feeling is
that the plan is to stick it to the club in the long term, these groups are looking at the future and what they can get
out of developing the site. In fact this could be the reason why there are now suddenly problems, with the property
prices dropping and a recession on the horizon, the investment is not looking so profitable as before. I mean let's
face it, to a proper multi-millionaire the cost of the club and it's debts is peanuts. Must go, the sea mist is rolling in
and there be pirates here (not the 2 wheeled ones either).

extabi, Bahamas says...
8:46pm Wed 2 Jul 08

WELL EVERYONE! THEIR IS A WAY OUT OF THIS SITUATION BUT NO ONE HAS BOTHERD TO COME UP WITH THE IDEAR YET. WHY NOT GET SOMEONE ONE TO GET A HOLDING ACCOUNT WITH A LAWER AND PUT ALL YOUR DONATIONS IN AS GENUIN FANS OF THE CLUB IF EVERYONE PUT IN £20.00 STERLING AND THEN PUT THE MONEY TOGETHER THEN ALL THE FANS COULD BE SHARE HOLDERS AND BUY OUT MR. MOISTEN AND APOINT SOME ONE TO FRONT THE CLUB YOURSELFS WHO YOU COLLECTIVLY TRUST. WHY NOT ALL YOU FANS BUY OUT THE CLUB YOURSELFS IF ALL OF YOU GO TOGETHER WITH THIS SOLE PURPOSE IN MIND IT COULD BE DONE. THEN YOU COULD TURN IT INTO A PUBLIC LIMITED COMPANY AND FLOTE IT ON THE STOCK EXCHANGE AND RASE MORE MONEY FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CLUB.

lpstfc, Wiltshire says...
9:28pm Wed 2 Jul 08

The best bid on the table has been the Pither bid - fact. Savi (or whatever his name is) has trawled around football lcubs looking for a deal - and guess what he has got one. Bad move Jeff. Somehow I don't think we have seen the last of this saga...

frankfidler, florida usa says...
9:31pm Wed 2 Jul 08

hi latest unofficial information . most likely mr alan pither and his consorium will not be involved with afcb. will we have a club to support next season?

frankfidler, florida usa says...
9:31pm Wed 2 Jul 08

hi latest unofficial information . most likely mr alan pither and his consorium will not be involved with afcb. will we have a club to support next season?

lpstfc, Wiltshire says...
10:48pm Wed 2 Jul 08

frankfidler - don't be too hasty... there is still a twist in this saga yet my friend..

J.W- Living AFCB!!!, Christchurch, North Stand says...
11:01pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Negative..Negative..

Negative.... get a grip. Im not saying its everyone but serously you have got no prove or facts to back up ur silly claims of the bad stuf going on.

Without Mostyn let me remind you we would not be talking Having this very convo now. His money saved us from going down, you have to see that. FACT

Krasner was played flat fee and is not getting payed for this extra time its taken, for whoever sed that,He has to complete his work he has to sort it out before he goes with no extra money FACT


Malcolm B, Bournemouth says...
11:25pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Will the football league have something to say here? Mostyns businessplan still has to be approved - is this likely now? Why not let the club go under, start again and work your way up the non league pyramid. No debts, likely to be large crowds and with the right manager you could do an Aldershot given the resources you would have compared to others. Options for ground shares exist - Weymouth & Dorchester - even Poole given their planning problems.
However you could make life easier for yourselves and convert to be Terras fans, at least we will have a team going into this season and no money worries just yet although cynically this too is a matter of time given unrealistic levels of wages based on gate income. The extra support would ensure we still have one decent team in Dorset.

AFCBade, Croydon says...
11:34pm Wed 2 Jul 08

It used to be said that Mostyn was the only one who has put money into keep AFCB afloat. Is this fact now - sounds as though this is false if Pither has put money in.

Krasner said that he saw no reason why mostyn's bid would now fail - surely this split blows a big hole in the timetable?

If exclusivity for Mostyn was guaranteed by putting in funds what does this mean for Pither who is putting in money?

Sorry I have no answers just a long list of questions!!

AFCBade, Croydon says...
11:35pm Wed 2 Jul 08

It used to be said that Mostyn was the only one who has put money into keep AFCB afloat. Is this fact now - sounds as though this is false if Pither has put money in.

Krasner said that he saw no reason why mostyn's bid would now fail - surely this split blows a big hole in the timetable?

If exclusivity for Mostyn was guaranteed by putting in funds what does this mean for Pither who is putting in money?

Sorry I have no answers just a long list of questions!!

kevvo, The dog house again says...
7:32am Thu 3 Jul 08

J.W- Living AFCB!!! wrote:
Negative..Negative.. Negative.... get a grip. Im not saying its everyone but serously you have got no prove or facts to back up ur silly claims of the bad stuf going on. Without Mostyn let me remind you we would not be talking Having this very convo now. His money saved us from going down, you have to see that. FACT Krasner was played flat fee and is not getting payed for this extra time its taken, for whoever sed that,He has to complete his work he has to sort it out before he goes with no extra money FACT
Well the stuff I have been posting is from quotes from Mostyn himself so Yes you may be right it may be even more lies. It was the Echo who brought up abot Krassners fees so they didnt know it was a flat rate and it was Krassner who said this new CE was on a six figure salary. It would appear that it wasnt only Mostyn who put money in. But you are right lets wait and see what happens tommorow because if nothing does we are really close to the wire I dont think People are deliberatly trying to be negative, the post I have seen are obviously from people who are worried about the Club . If youve got a noose around your neck positive thinking wont stop the trap door opening

GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
8:56am Thu 3 Jul 08

frankfidler wrote:
GMcMahon wrote:
So this is the same Bournemouth Holdings that share the same working office address as the former owners of Luton Town, who have been in trouble with the league over their alleged dealings in the transfer market, so the question now has to be asked, who if anyone is going to buy the club and why do these prospective investors keep jumping ship at the 11th hour form Mostyn's bids? With these other new bidders buying up land how is that going to effect how the club is run, someone somewhere needs to give a clear picture of what Mostyn is proposing and what the future investment is going to be, at present the only bidder we still have not heard from with regard to their financial plan is Mostyn, I don't know about anyone else but I think at this late stage I would prefer to know what the preferred bidder is actually bidding. It also looks like Pither has quite a strong hand to play with, it looks more and more like a game and I get the feeling that Jeff has been lining this up so he can get out of jail free, I could very well be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.
gmcmahon you seem to be the best informed of us all. can u find out from bournemouth planning office of plans submitted of lands being purchased. it seems to me jeff mostyn is now a figurehead .
Not best informed by any means I just did some digging around with the information that was available and is available to us all, I may well try and find out what you are asking as it would be very interesting to see. I do agree with you that Mostyn looks like a lame duck at the moment and I would not be surprised if we see a change of Chairman over the next week or two, it just goes to show even the most reliable of sources can have it blow up in their faces, I don't think any of us saw this coming a week ago, so we need to know what's next and fast, at least that's what I would like to know.

Richard Mayes, says...
9:04am Thu 3 Jul 08

No doubt Krasner's next little "earner" will be to write a best seller, based on the Cherries administration, it has all the right ingredients - deception, drama, backstabbing etc. Still we should be out of our misery tomorrow when the money is due to be paid and the plan forwarded to the FA. As for the "rival" bidders, anyone heard of any plans for the Club's future from them, all I have heard and read is of property development - don't they know that all planning applications made for the site have been refused?

GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
9:06am Thu 3 Jul 08

J.W- Living AFCB!!! wrote:
Negative..Negative..

Negative.... get a grip. Im not saying its everyone but serously you have got no prove or facts to back up ur silly claims of the bad stuf going on.

Without Mostyn let me remind you we would not be talking Having this very convo now. His money saved us from going down, you have to see that. FACT

Krasner was played flat fee and is not getting payed for this extra time its taken, for whoever sed that,He has to complete his work he has to sort it out before he goes with no extra money FACT

I think you will find that it's without pither we wouldn't be having this convo now, the facts are there for all to see, people are not being negative at all they are just fed up with the way this whole mess has been dealt with, and yet again we have had more lies, we were told Mostyn was putting up the money, something I said he wasn't doing and got a right earful for but we have seen this week that he hasn't been as financially involved as we were lead to believe. Krasner and his pay are not worth talking about, if he had done his job properly then this would have been resolved weeks ago, and he will be claiming expenses don't think he is doing this for nothing, he is an employee of the company he will still be getting he wages, unlike some have missed out on over the past 6 months. So the facts are out there and they do not point to Mostyn being as loyal to the club as he is to his wallet, so unless you can show the evidence that proves otherwise I don't think you are in a position to call the comments negative, then again you are entitled to think what you want.

ALL SEEING EYE, WESSEX says...
9:50am Thu 3 Jul 08

Hello, yes it’s me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO!
Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesn’t have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego.
I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are)
I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO
Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOL

GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
11:10am Thu 3 Jul 08

ALL SEEING EYE wrote:
Hello, yes it’s me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO!
Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesn’t have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego.
I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are)
I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO
Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOL
Do you have any idea who Pither is and who he represents? You have not been retired either we all know the many names you have used, not hard when you use the same insults with every one of them. What exactly does I told you so refer to, you have not told us anything, all you have ever done is attack Mostyn at every opportunity and call for the death of the club, if that's what you mean by your comments then your welcome to them. I also do not recall anyone calling Mostyn a messiah, If you refer to those of us who said we need to give the deal a chance then fine by me I stand by that, as will others, but I do not recall anyone at any time claiming Mostyn as the messiah, I recall that even the most positive have said if that's the only choice then we need to take it, so don't come back on here using your one of many faces claiming you knew it all along, what a load of old bullcrap.

john coombes, Tiverton says...
11:11am Thu 3 Jul 08

ALL SEEING EYE wrote:
Hello, yes it’s me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO! Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesn’t have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego. I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are) I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOL
no one can say at this time whether you are right or wrong, but the impression I get is that these men are more interested in the surrounding ground than in the football, as you seem to know so much perhaps you could tell me how long these people have supported the club or had any involvment with it

ALL SEEING EYE, WESSEX says...
11:57am Thu 3 Jul 08

john coombes wrote:
ALL SEEING EYE wrote: Hello, yes it’s me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO! Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesn’t have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego. I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are) I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOL
no one can say at this time whether you are right or wrong, but the impression I get is that these men are more interested in the surrounding ground than in the football, as you seem to know so much perhaps you could tell me how long these people have supported the club or had any involvment with it
Money talks pal - get into the real world – The new consortium cannot develop DC as there are covenants, but the consortium MAY find a way to develop surrounding area.
They did say they will run AFCB as a business, so if they can realise their costs from ‘Development’ AROUND DC who is to blame them.
You still have a football club which you wouldn't for long with Mostyn in charge, so just be thankful.
The war for the club is over. The next war will be with the residents around DC and the proposed new growth area.
Did someone once say many moons ago” DEAN COURT GARDENS”? now there was a prophecy. I wonder how I knew that was going to happen!

frankfidler, florida usa says...
11:59am Thu 3 Jul 08

GMcMahon wrote:
ALL SEEING EYE wrote:
Hello, yes it’s me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO!
Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesn’t have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego.
I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are)
I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO
Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOL
Do you have any idea who Pither is and who he represents? You have not been retired either we all know the many names you have used, not hard when you use the same insults with every one of them. What exactly does I told you so refer to, you have not told us anything, all you have ever done is attack Mostyn at every opportunity and call for the death of the club, if that's what you mean by your comments then your welcome to them. I also do not recall anyone calling Mostyn a messiah, If you refer to those of us who said we need to give the deal a chance then fine by me I stand by that, as will others, but I do not recall anyone at any time claiming Mostyn as the messiah, I recall that even the most positive have said if that's the only choice then we need to take it, so don't come back on here using your one of many faces claiming you knew it all along, what a load of old bullcrap.
i repeat my earlier message the alan pither consortium have fallen out with krasner and will almost certainly not be involved anymore . i dont think we have said goodbye to mostyn, krasner and saverimuuto just yet

ALL SEEING EYE, WESSEX says...
12:03pm Thu 3 Jul 08

GMcMahon wrote:
ALL SEEING EYE wrote: Hello, yes it’s me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO! Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesn’t have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego. I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are) I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOL
Do you have any idea who Pither is and who he represents? You have not been retired either we all know the many names you have used, not hard when you use the same insults with every one of them. What exactly does I told you so refer to, you have not told us anything, all you have ever done is attack Mostyn at every opportunity and call for the death of the club, if that's what you mean by your comments then your welcome to them. I also do not recall anyone calling Mostyn a messiah, If you refer to those of us who said we need to give the deal a chance then fine by me I stand by that, as will others, but I do not recall anyone at any time claiming Mostyn as the messiah, I recall that even the most positive have said if that's the only choice then we need to take it, so don't come back on here using your one of many faces claiming you knew it all along, what a load of old bullcrap.
Wow! Mrs McMahon you have got your knickers in a twist.
Guilty conscience maybe?

mike clegg, bournemouth says...
12:12pm Thu 3 Jul 08

Lets all wait and see tomorrow. Jeff may have a master plan and a MULTI MILLIONAIRE ? I do not think Sport - 6 have any money ( check them out ) and Savi has not worked in Football for FIVE years ( check) 8 months at Everton 2003 as shop keeper ? sacked ? 1 month at Chester City 2007 sacked ( check ) So no money no experience ? Good luck Jeff , you need it !

Jem in Adelaide, Redwood Park says...
12:29pm Thu 3 Jul 08

You may well be right frankfidler, florida usa after all The Pither Consortium is mentioned Tuesday and by Wednesday they are going public and talking to us. That would not sit very well with Lard A**s or Mostyn. They probably expected them to announce that they would talk in a week or so's time at the regular waste of time press meeting. For those that believe that Porky is not being paid hwell that may be true I don't know but I would bet that he is accumulating serious expenses.
If you wrote this stuff up and proposed it as a TV soap nobody would believe you.

Jem in Adelaide, Redwood Park says...
2:18pm Thu 3 Jul 08

BBC Football is reporting Mostyn will be speaking on Radio solent on saturday afternoon from 1400BST. He is quoted as saying "The offer that we have made to the administrator is as close as we are ever likely to get to a successful conclusion". I'm not quite sure what to read into that - the optimist would hang on they are getting close and the pessimist would be hearing close but not quite close enough.

kevvo, The dog house again says...
3:34pm Thu 3 Jul 08

Jem in Adelaide wrote:
BBC Football is reporting Mostyn will be speaking on Radio solent on saturday afternoon from 1400BST. He is quoted as saying "The offer that we have made to the administrator is as close as we are ever likely to get to a successful conclusion". I'm not quite sure what to read into that - the optimist would hang on they are getting close and the pessimist would be hearing close but not quite close enough.
And the realist would take it as it was written (although it was written by the Echo so a little bit of Licence please) It reads that Mostyn thinks this is as close as he is going to get.

kevvo, The dog house again says...
3:37pm Thu 3 Jul 08

mike clegg wrote:
Lets all wait and see tomorrow. Jeff may have a master plan and a MULTI MILLIONAIRE ? I do not think Sport - 6 have any money ( check them out ) and Savi has not worked in Football for FIVE years ( check) 8 months at Everton 2003 as shop keeper ? sacked ? 1 month at Chester City 2007 sacked ( check ) So no money no experience ? Good luck Jeff , you need it !
WOW what a CV fits in at this Club a treat

john coombes, Tiverton says...
3:56pm Thu 3 Jul 08

ALL SEEING EYE wrote:
john coombes wrote:
ALL SEEING EYE wrote: Hello, yes it’s me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO! Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesn’t have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego. I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are) I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOL
no one can say at this time whether you are right or wrong, but the impression I get is that these men are more interested in the surrounding ground than in the football, as you seem to know so much perhaps you could tell me how long these people have supported the club or had any involvment with it
Money talks pal - get into the real world – The new consortium cannot develop DC as there are covenants, but the consortium MAY find a way to develop surrounding area. They did say they will run AFCB as a business, so if they can realise their costs from ‘Development’ AROUND DC who is to blame them. You still have a football club which you wouldn't for long with Mostyn in charge, so just be thankful. The war for the club is over. The next war will be with the residents around DC and the proposed new growth area. Did someone once say many moons ago” DEAN COURT GARDENS”? now there was a prophecy. I wonder how I knew that was going to happen!
the reason you knew is because you think you are such a clever ****, in your own mind you must be a legend, but the facts are we are faced with litle or no options whichever group gains control they cannot be trusted to do what is best for the club and football

ALL SEEING EYE, WESSEX says...
4:20pm Thu 3 Jul 08

john coombes wrote:
ALL SEEING EYE wrote:
john coombes wrote:
ALL SEEING EYE wrote: Hello, yes it’s me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO! Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesn’t have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego. I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are) I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOL
no one can say at this time whether you are right or wrong, but the impression I get is that these men are more interested in the surrounding ground than in the football, as you seem to know so much perhaps you could tell me how long these people have supported the club or had any involvment with it
Money talks pal - get into the real world – The new consortium cannot develop DC as there are covenants, but the consortium MAY find a way to develop surrounding area. They did say they will run AFCB as a business, so if they can realise their costs from ‘Development’ AROUND DC who is to blame them. You still have a football club which you wouldn't for long with Mostyn in charge, so just be thankful. The war for the club is over. The next war will be with the residents around DC and the proposed new growth area. Did someone once say many moons ago” DEAN COURT GARDENS”? now there was a prophecy. I wonder how I knew that was going to happen!
the reason you knew is because you think you are such a clever ****, in your own mind you must be a legend, but the facts are we are faced with litle or no options whichever group gains control they cannot be trusted to do what is best for the club and football
Of course you have an option you stupid person!
Just stop going and support another local team that’s one option the other is to shut up and put up! OK?
You’re as bad as Mrs
McMahon and her son Andy_roo.

GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
5:00pm Thu 3 Jul 08

ALL SEEING EYE wrote:
john coombes wrote:
ALL SEEING EYE wrote:
john coombes wrote:
ALL SEEING EYE wrote: Hello, yes it’s me again. I have come out of retirement just to say:- I TOLD YOU SO! Many moons ago at the start of administration I warned of Mostyn and said he would be no good for the club. He doesn’t have the money and after only 18 months of first going to AFCB how could he be so interested in buying it apart from caressing his own ego. I have read many anal comments regarding AFCB, mainly from three persistent idiots who have written about Mostyn as being the Messiah who had come to save us. (You do know who you are) I always held my view despite the personal attacks on me by the few, I knew and told you all that there was someone waiting in the wings. I was scorned, scoffed at and ridiculed BUT again I have great pleasure in saying to all those doubters I TOLD YOU SO! WELCOME ALAN PITHER, GERARD DAY AND MELVYN NEWMAN GOODBYE MOSTYN, KRASNER AND SAVERIMUTTO Goodbye now my loyal readers. LOL
no one can say at this time whether you are right or wrong, but the impression I get is that these men are more interested in the surrounding ground than in the football, as you seem to know so much perhaps you could tell me how long these people have supported the club or had any involvment with it
Money talks pal - get into the real world – The new consortium cannot develop DC as there are covenants, but the consortium MAY find a way to develop surrounding area. They did say they will run AFCB as a business, so if they can realise their costs from ‘Development’ AROUND DC who is to blame them. You still have a football club which you wouldn't for long with Mostyn in charge, so just be thankful. The war for the club is over. The next war will be with the residents around DC and the proposed new growth area. Did someone once say many moons ago” DEAN COURT GARDENS”? now there was a prophecy. I wonder how I knew that was going to happen!
the reason you knew is because you think you are such a clever ****, in your own mind you must be a legend, but the facts are we are faced with litle or no options whichever group gains control they cannot be trusted to do what is best for the club and football
Of course you have an option you stupid person!
Just stop going and support another local team that’s one option the other is to shut up and put up! OK?
You’re as bad as Mrs
McMahon and her son Andy_roo.
We can tell all smelling arse is back the stench on here is overwhelming.

GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
5:03pm Thu 3 Jul 08

Not that he ever went away, been spending his time behind so many different names, that's why I take what he says as nothing but bull, if he really had conviction in what he says then he would tell us who he really is, just another keyboard worrier who uses aliases because he is scared someone might find out who he really is, how very sad it is.

elvispresleysking, Bristol says...
8:32pm Thu 3 Jul 08

Can somebody enlighten me on something that was in Mr Pither's statement yesterday?

As I understand it from AP's statement yesterday JM and AP were partners in a consortium to buy AFCB since 6 weeks ago. However they have now split yet AP states

"We want to buy the club and it's a proper bid. The money to buy the club is still sitting with my lawyer and it was there under the old offer."

Now this raises the question if the JM/AP consortium money was AP's and he's now using this for a rival bid what is JM using to buy the club? Also if he has got AS and his Sport-6 as a new consortium backing his bid surely this means that his original bid is dead and therefore he can't buy the club so GK(of Beggar's belief) should have opened the club up for sale again, thus paving the way for AP's consortium to lead the way.

I can't see how a bid to buy a football club from a consortium can continue to be valid when you have more partners than Liz Taylor!

Reading between the lines I feel that JM hasn't got the finances in place to take AFCB forward and the fact that his statement about his proposal to the FL was so 'open-ended' shows this.

I do fear for your clubs future. Being a supporter of Bristol Rovers I know what it's like to support a club that hasn't got it's own ground or anyway of increasing revenue. Thankfully for us that has now been resolved but only due to the finacial plight of our rugby side. Should your deal go through and you don't own DC at the end of it, something that surely JM must have made paramount in his bid for the club, then I can't see AFCB surviving beyond 18 months especially if AP has, as stated, been purchasing the area around the ground.

Anyway good luck for the future, I fear you are going to need a lot of it!

GMcMahon, Highcliffe says...
7:44am Fri 4 Jul 08

elvispresleysking wrote:
Can somebody enlighten me on something that was in Mr Pither's statement yesterday?

As I understand it from AP's statement yesterday JM and AP were partners in a consortium to buy AFCB since 6 weeks ago. However they have now split yet AP states

"We want to buy the club and it's a proper bid. The money to buy the club is still sitting with my lawyer and it was there under the old offer."

Now this raises the question if the JM/AP consortium money was AP's and he's now using this for a rival bid what is JM using to buy the club? Also if he has got AS and his Sport-6 as a new consortium backing his bid surely this means that his original bid is dead and therefore he can't buy the club so GK(of Beggar's belief) should have opened the club up for sale again, thus paving the way for AP's consortium to lead the way.

I can't see how a bid to buy a football club from a consortium can continue to be valid when you have more partners than Liz Taylor!

Reading between the lines I feel that JM hasn't got the finances in place to take AFCB forward and the fact that his statement about his proposal to the FL was so 'open-ended' shows this.

I do fear for your clubs future. Being a supporter of Bristol Rovers I know what it's like to support a club that hasn't got it's own ground or anyway of increasing revenue. Thankfully for us that has now been resolved but only due to the finacial plight of our rugby side. Should your deal go through and you don't own DC at the end of it, something that surely JM must have made paramount in his bid for the club, then I can't see AFCB surviving beyond 18 months especially if AP has, as stated, been purchasing the area around the ground.

Anyway good luck for the future, I fear you are going to need a lot of it!
We are all thinking the same thing, well nearly all of us are.

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