AFC Bournemouth skipper Elphick: Ref was wrong over free kick

Bournemouth Echo: ANNOYED: AFC Bournemouth skipper Tommy Elphick ANNOYED: AFC Bournemouth skipper Tommy Elphick

TOMMY Elphick admitted he felt “let down” by the match officials after Cherries suffered a controversial 1-0 defeat to Championship promotion-chasers Derby.

Elphick was penalised by referee Mark Heywood for his sliding challenge on Will Hughes in the closing stages of Saturday’s contest at Pride Park, although TV replays appeared to show the Cherries captain had cleanly won the ball.

Chris Martin condemned Eddie Howe’s men to defeat with the resulting 85th-minute free kick, which the front man curled round the wall into the top-right corner.

However, Dean Court skipper Elphick, who was booked for the challenge, felt Martin should never have been given the opportunity in the first place.

He told the Daily Echo: “I’ve seen it back and no way was it a free kick.

“He (Heywood) has got it a million per cent wrong.

“You work all week on keeping teams out and to get let down by officials is not a good feeling.

“He (Martin) still had a lot of work to do and he put a great free kick away, so you’ve got to take your hat off to him.

“He’s a powerful lad with a great strike and Campy (Lee Camp) has got no chance, which says a lot for the execution.

“But we’ve defended so well and we didn’t deserve that. It’s highly frustrating and it’s hard to see the positives right now.”

Cherries were the more creative and penetrative force in the first half, with Matt Ritchie rattling the upright and strikers Tokelo Rantie and Lewis Grabban also going close.

However, after the break Derby cranked up the pressure and the Cherries backline were forced to defend desperately in an effort to salvage a positive result.

Based on the overall performance, Elphick felt a draw was the least his team deserved.

He said: “In the first half we had some good chances and good counter-attacking moments, we put some lovely passing moves together.

“Matty has hit the post, Grabbs has gone through one-on-one but the lad (Lee Grant) made a great save, and Tokelo is looking more threatening with each game.

“For 20 minutes (in the second half) they had a good spell and flashed a few balls across the box, but we were all tight and we were all marking them.

“I think Campy has had one cross that he’s had to deal with but apart from that and the goal, he was untroubled.

“I thought we were well worth a point, if not more.”

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7:19am Mon 24 Feb 14

afcb-mark says...

Definitely not a free kick, but, we should have finished them off at the other end.
Definitely not a free kick, but, we should have finished them off at the other end. afcb-mark
  • Score: 20

8:21am Mon 24 Feb 14

Solentcherry says...

Spot on afcb-mark.
"I thought we were well worth a point, if not more" is the story of so many of our recent games. If only we could finish off our great football with some goals.
Unfortunately you get nothing for " rattling the upright" and "going close".
COYC.
Spot on afcb-mark. "I thought we were well worth a point, if not more" is the story of so many of our recent games. If only we could finish off our great football with some goals. Unfortunately you get nothing for " rattling the upright" and "going close". COYC. Solentcherry
  • Score: 7

9:07am Mon 24 Feb 14

swanagecherrie says...

Just how many one on one with the oppositions goalkeeper have we had this season? Quite a few this shows our skill at getting through. How many have we missed or had saved nearly all of them. one on one training the order of this week Eddie. Have to agree with Tommy he got the whole of the ball not even close to a free kick but we get used to this at afcb not the luckiest of teams for sure. Bring on Saturday this will show how good we are a must win game. The next 6 games are in and around us abet 4 away I feel these games will play a big part in defining our final position.
Just how many one on one with the oppositions goalkeeper have we had this season? Quite a few this shows our skill at getting through. How many have we missed or had saved nearly all of them. one on one training the order of this week Eddie. Have to agree with Tommy he got the whole of the ball not even close to a free kick but we get used to this at afcb not the luckiest of teams for sure. Bring on Saturday this will show how good we are a must win game. The next 6 games are in and around us abet 4 away I feel these games will play a big part in defining our final position. swanagecherrie
  • Score: 7

9:17am Mon 24 Feb 14

susi.m says...

Def not free kick. Very strange that the ref made the decision - he was so close to the action. Terrible and weak by him and not good enough for this league - shame on him.
Our defence was excellent and feel sorry for them - its upfront where the problems are.
Def not free kick. Very strange that the ref made the decision - he was so close to the action. Terrible and weak by him and not good enough for this league - shame on him. Our defence was excellent and feel sorry for them - its upfront where the problems are. susi.m
  • Score: 5

9:22am Mon 24 Feb 14

Afcbpete says...

Too many times we're dropping points because we can't put away our chances, so regardless of the fact that the standard of refereeing has fallen short of what I'd of expected in this league, we've been our own worst enemy. Yet as with Saturday, ANOTHER poor decision has cost us dear, It would make a pleasant change to have a game when we don't feel we're playing the officials as well, and it's 11 v 11 for a change!!! UTCIAD
Too many times we're dropping points because we can't put away our chances, so regardless of the fact that the standard of refereeing has fallen short of what I'd of expected in this league, we've been our own worst enemy. Yet as with Saturday, ANOTHER poor decision has cost us dear, It would make a pleasant change to have a game when we don't feel we're playing the officials as well, and it's 11 v 11 for a change!!! UTCIAD Afcbpete
  • Score: 5

9:42am Mon 24 Feb 14

a real supporter says...

Anybody who has attended a game will have seen the quality of referees (or lack of) in this league. I really thought we would get better than we had in Div 1 but they all seem to be the same. It really does show when we have a premiership ref, which we have had for a few games, in the way the game flows. The answer falls back to the FA who only seem to care about the Premiership.
Putting the ref to one side, we cannot continue to create so many chances without scoring. Unfortunately, Rantie is not the goalscorer he should be and never has been. He needs and is obviously receiving a lot of coaching but he should not be starting games. We must try Grab's and Kermit. I'm even starting to understand the calls for Brett maybe a few starts and regular games would help (look at Harte). As somebody stated previously it would not be worse than we currently have!
Anybody who has attended a game will have seen the quality of referees (or lack of) in this league. I really thought we would get better than we had in Div 1 but they all seem to be the same. It really does show when we have a premiership ref, which we have had for a few games, in the way the game flows. The answer falls back to the FA who only seem to care about the Premiership. Putting the ref to one side, we cannot continue to create so many chances without scoring. Unfortunately, Rantie is not the goalscorer he should be and never has been. He needs and is obviously receiving a lot of coaching but he should not be starting games. We must try Grab's and Kermit. I'm even starting to understand the calls for Brett maybe a few starts and regular games would help (look at Harte). As somebody stated previously it would not be worse than we currently have! a real supporter
  • Score: 2

9:48am Mon 24 Feb 14

afcbtintin says...

Of course, if we could get ourselves in the position that on goal against didn't matter then we wouldn't feel so aggrieved by this awful decision. On the decision I just hope whoever was assessing him gave him rollicking.

On my first point, why have we taken what Charlton recently described one of their best two players from them and then not given him a run out from the start ? He obviously makes a difference when he comes on(apart from the obvious height difference), I must missing something.

A completely different subject, I am astonished to discover that as a wheelchair fan, when we visit Ipswich, I will have to sit with Ipswich wheelchair fans, with my wife/carer 2 rows behind. This won't stop me going, but I will be fed up to be the other side of the pitch to the Cherry fans !
UTCIAD
Of course, if we could get ourselves in the position that on goal against didn't matter then we wouldn't feel so aggrieved by this awful decision. On the decision I just hope whoever was assessing him gave him rollicking. On my first point, why have we taken what Charlton recently described one of their best two players from them and then not given him a run out from the start ? He obviously makes a difference when he comes on(apart from the obvious height difference), I must missing something. A completely different subject, I am astonished to discover that as a wheelchair fan, when we visit Ipswich, I will have to sit with Ipswich wheelchair fans, with my wife/carer 2 rows behind. This won't stop me going, but I will be fed up to be the other side of the pitch to the Cherry fans ! UTCIAD afcbtintin
  • Score: 5

10:07am Mon 24 Feb 14

Solentcherry says...

Two or three months ago a scandal broke regarding players fixing matches in order to win large sums of money by betting. Since then it's all gone very quiet on the subject. At the time I suggested in a post that referees should also be scrutinised as they had been the focus of some very questionable decisions over the years at all levels. Given the amount of control and influence they have on a game, they are in a prime situation to control betting outcomes. They might get criticised after the game, but the result or other outcome stays the same. They don't get paid the large sums that a lot of footballers do, so the temptation could exist to "have a piece of the action while I can"
If say, Saturdays ref or member of his family or friend had possibly Derby down as part of a big win accumulator , time running out.................
?
Unfortunately the potential is there in the modern world for such scenarios.
On another note, have replayed Saturdays incident several times, and it is such a clean tackle that it's an astonishing error by the ref. Do the FA do any marking or appraisals of individuals?
Two or three months ago a scandal broke regarding players fixing matches in order to win large sums of money by betting. Since then it's all gone very quiet on the subject. At the time I suggested in a post that referees should also be scrutinised as they had been the focus of some very questionable decisions over the years at all levels. Given the amount of control and influence they have on a game, they are in a prime situation to control betting outcomes. They might get criticised after the game, but the result or other outcome stays the same. They don't get paid the large sums that a lot of footballers do, so the temptation could exist to "have a piece of the action while I can" If say, Saturdays ref or member of his family or friend had possibly Derby down as part of a big win accumulator , time running out................. ? Unfortunately the potential is there in the modern world for such scenarios. On another note, have replayed Saturdays incident several times, and it is such a clean tackle that it's an astonishing error by the ref. Do the FA do any marking or appraisals of individuals? Solentcherry
  • Score: 3

10:09am Mon 24 Feb 14

coops1965cherry says...

Mixed feelings about this because it was never a free kick you can see he clearly played the ball, if it were anywhere else on the pitch he would not have given it.
He bowed under pressure and was a poor decision from the ref.

We were a decent bet after the first half and on another day we should and could have scored but remember we are playing against an ex Premier league club who has a stadium that holds 33,000 people and once again I ask for a little perspective about the result.

We are punching above our weight and don,t get me wrong so are many other clubs and until such time when we become a bigger and more established club we will do ell to compete at this level.

I have no doubt that we will not only survive this season but finish above some bigger and more established clubs than ourselves..

Yes it is frustrating that we are letting points slip but we really are so very close to becoming the real deal in this division.
Just remember where we were just three seasons ago !

U T C I A D.
Mixed feelings about this because it was never a free kick you can see he clearly played the ball, if it were anywhere else on the pitch he would not have given it. He bowed under pressure and was a poor decision from the ref. We were a decent bet after the first half and on another day we should and could have scored but remember we are playing against an ex Premier league club who has a stadium that holds 33,000 people and once again I ask for a little perspective about the result. We are punching above our weight and don,t get me wrong so are many other clubs and until such time when we become a bigger and more established club we will do ell to compete at this level. I have no doubt that we will not only survive this season but finish above some bigger and more established clubs than ourselves.. Yes it is frustrating that we are letting points slip but we really are so very close to becoming the real deal in this division. Just remember where we were just three seasons ago ! U T C I A D. coops1965cherry
  • Score: 7

10:51am Mon 24 Feb 14

devon fan says...

there are 3 or 4 articles today in the ECHO today all on the same theme was it a free kick or not, the answer was no but sadly if you slide in to make a tackle you are leaving the referee the chance to give a free kick, but the sad thing is all the articles miss the real point ifr you had scored the goals you should have done the free kick would not have mattered, until management and players realise we have a goalscoring problem and work at improving this dismal part of our game we will not improve as a team
there are 3 or 4 articles today in the ECHO today all on the same theme was it a free kick or not, the answer was no but sadly if you slide in to make a tackle you are leaving the referee the chance to give a free kick, but the sad thing is all the articles miss the real point ifr you had scored the goals you should have done the free kick would not have mattered, until management and players realise we have a goalscoring problem and work at improving this dismal part of our game we will not improve as a team devon fan
  • Score: 7

11:13am Mon 24 Feb 14

swanagecherrie says...

coops1965cherry wrote:
Mixed feelings about this because it was never a free kick you can see he clearly played the ball, if it were anywhere else on the pitch he would not have given it.
He bowed under pressure and was a poor decision from the ref.

We were a decent bet after the first half and on another day we should and could have scored but remember we are playing against an ex Premier league club who has a stadium that holds 33,000 people and once again I ask for a little perspective about the result.

We are punching above our weight and don,t get me wrong so are many other clubs and until such time when we become a bigger and more established club we will do ell to compete at this level.

I have no doubt that we will not only survive this season but finish above some bigger and more established clubs than ourselves..

Yes it is frustrating that we are letting points slip but we really are so very close to becoming the real deal in this division.
Just remember where we were just three seasons ago !

U T C I A D.
Are we punching above our weight ? we should be but are we, I don't think so. In all aspects of the game we are more than a match for most teams in this league except scoring. Lets not forget these strikers are professional footballers not Sunday league players but top players and they shouldn't be missing as many the EASY chances we can excuse half chances but not the easy ones we create in a lot of games. If we can fix this no one would say we are punching above our weight.
[quote][p][bold]coops1965cherry[/bold] wrote: Mixed feelings about this because it was never a free kick you can see he clearly played the ball, if it were anywhere else on the pitch he would not have given it. He bowed under pressure and was a poor decision from the ref. We were a decent bet after the first half and on another day we should and could have scored but remember we are playing against an ex Premier league club who has a stadium that holds 33,000 people and once again I ask for a little perspective about the result. We are punching above our weight and don,t get me wrong so are many other clubs and until such time when we become a bigger and more established club we will do ell to compete at this level. I have no doubt that we will not only survive this season but finish above some bigger and more established clubs than ourselves.. Yes it is frustrating that we are letting points slip but we really are so very close to becoming the real deal in this division. Just remember where we were just three seasons ago ! U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]Are we punching above our weight ? we should be but are we, I don't think so. In all aspects of the game we are more than a match for most teams in this league except scoring. Lets not forget these strikers are professional footballers not Sunday league players but top players and they shouldn't be missing as many the EASY chances we can excuse half chances but not the easy ones we create in a lot of games. If we can fix this no one would say we are punching above our weight. swanagecherrie
  • Score: 3

1:21pm Mon 24 Feb 14

coops1965cherry says...

swanagecherrie wrote:
coops1965cherry wrote:
Mixed feelings about this because it was never a free kick you can see he clearly played the ball, if it were anywhere else on the pitch he would not have given it.
He bowed under pressure and was a poor decision from the ref.

We were a decent bet after the first half and on another day we should and could have scored but remember we are playing against an ex Premier league club who has a stadium that holds 33,000 people and once again I ask for a little perspective about the result.

We are punching above our weight and don,t get me wrong so are many other clubs and until such time when we become a bigger and more established club we will do ell to compete at this level.

I have no doubt that we will not only survive this season but finish above some bigger and more established clubs than ourselves..

Yes it is frustrating that we are letting points slip but we really are so very close to becoming the real deal in this division.
Just remember where we were just three seasons ago !

U T C I A D.
Are we punching above our weight ? we should be but are we, I don't think so. In all aspects of the game we are more than a match for most teams in this league except scoring. Lets not forget these strikers are professional footballers not Sunday league players but top players and they shouldn't be missing as many the EASY chances we can excuse half chances but not the easy ones we create in a lot of games. If we can fix this no one would say we are punching above our weight.
Fair point, however I just feel that there are certain times we need to check where and how far we have come in such a short space of time.

I totally agree that we are a little profligate with some of our chances but the step up has been easier made by some players than others.

Regarding goals scored that is the most difficult part of the game and always has been no matter what level you play at.

I agree that it is very frustrating at times because we are so very close to being a real competitor in this league and maybe even in the next.

I always use Reading and Wigan as the bench mark because they are clubs that were no bigger than us when they begun their meteoric rise to the top flight, it does take time and I just feel that sometimes we need to be a bit more patient.

I genuinely believe that we will push on as a club and indeed a team to the next level, whether that is an established championship club or one that pushes on to the promised land of the premier league.

Whatever happens I think that we have got the right people in the right places and it will require a little more patience from the fans and they do not come more ardent and loyal than myself.

By the way is that special bus still running on match days from Swanage ?

U T C I A D.
[quote][p][bold]swanagecherrie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]coops1965cherry[/bold] wrote: Mixed feelings about this because it was never a free kick you can see he clearly played the ball, if it were anywhere else on the pitch he would not have given it. He bowed under pressure and was a poor decision from the ref. We were a decent bet after the first half and on another day we should and could have scored but remember we are playing against an ex Premier league club who has a stadium that holds 33,000 people and once again I ask for a little perspective about the result. We are punching above our weight and don,t get me wrong so are many other clubs and until such time when we become a bigger and more established club we will do ell to compete at this level. I have no doubt that we will not only survive this season but finish above some bigger and more established clubs than ourselves.. Yes it is frustrating that we are letting points slip but we really are so very close to becoming the real deal in this division. Just remember where we were just three seasons ago ! U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]Are we punching above our weight ? we should be but are we, I don't think so. In all aspects of the game we are more than a match for most teams in this league except scoring. Lets not forget these strikers are professional footballers not Sunday league players but top players and they shouldn't be missing as many the EASY chances we can excuse half chances but not the easy ones we create in a lot of games. If we can fix this no one would say we are punching above our weight.[/p][/quote]Fair point, however I just feel that there are certain times we need to check where and how far we have come in such a short space of time. I totally agree that we are a little profligate with some of our chances but the step up has been easier made by some players than others. Regarding goals scored that is the most difficult part of the game and always has been no matter what level you play at. I agree that it is very frustrating at times because we are so very close to being a real competitor in this league and maybe even in the next. I always use Reading and Wigan as the bench mark because they are clubs that were no bigger than us when they begun their meteoric rise to the top flight, it does take time and I just feel that sometimes we need to be a bit more patient. I genuinely believe that we will push on as a club and indeed a team to the next level, whether that is an established championship club or one that pushes on to the promised land of the premier league. Whatever happens I think that we have got the right people in the right places and it will require a little more patience from the fans and they do not come more ardent and loyal than myself. By the way is that special bus still running on match days from Swanage ? U T C I A D. coops1965cherry
  • Score: 2

3:17pm Mon 24 Feb 14

hotdog350 says...

Agreed the Ref made the wrong call.
We are still doing what we have being doing all this season. Too much back passing and overplaying the ball in the box.
Rantie should be on the bench at best and should not be starting at any game but Eddie wants to prove us wrong and no doubt he will start on saturday when our proven striker will sit on the bench until Eddie cant stand anymore and pulls rantie off.
I hope we stay in the Championship but its not set in stone and the way we play attractive football with lots of pocession but our lack of goals from open play is poor. Pitman has only scored from penalties this season and Grabban likes to kick the ball directly into the keepers hands and Rantie at this time is league 2
Agreed the Ref made the wrong call. We are still doing what we have being doing all this season. Too much back passing and overplaying the ball in the box. Rantie should be on the bench at best and should not be starting at any game but Eddie wants to prove us wrong and no doubt he will start on saturday when our proven striker will sit on the bench until Eddie cant stand anymore and pulls rantie off. I hope we stay in the Championship but its not set in stone and the way we play attractive football with lots of pocession but our lack of goals from open play is poor. Pitman has only scored from penalties this season and Grabban likes to kick the ball directly into the keepers hands and Rantie at this time is league 2 hotdog350
  • Score: -4

3:31pm Mon 24 Feb 14

swanagecherrie says...

coops1965cherry wrote:
swanagecherrie wrote:
coops1965cherry wrote:
Mixed feelings about this because it was never a free kick you can see he clearly played the ball, if it were anywhere else on the pitch he would not have given it.
He bowed under pressure and was a poor decision from the ref.

We were a decent bet after the first half and on another day we should and could have scored but remember we are playing against an ex Premier league club who has a stadium that holds 33,000 people and once again I ask for a little perspective about the result.

We are punching above our weight and don,t get me wrong so are many other clubs and until such time when we become a bigger and more established club we will do ell to compete at this level.

I have no doubt that we will not only survive this season but finish above some bigger and more established clubs than ourselves..

Yes it is frustrating that we are letting points slip but we really are so very close to becoming the real deal in this division.
Just remember where we were just three seasons ago !

U T C I A D.
Are we punching above our weight ? we should be but are we, I don't think so. In all aspects of the game we are more than a match for most teams in this league except scoring. Lets not forget these strikers are professional footballers not Sunday league players but top players and they shouldn't be missing as many the EASY chances we can excuse half chances but not the easy ones we create in a lot of games. If we can fix this no one would say we are punching above our weight.
Fair point, however I just feel that there are certain times we need to check where and how far we have come in such a short space of time.

I totally agree that we are a little profligate with some of our chances but the step up has been easier made by some players than others.

Regarding goals scored that is the most difficult part of the game and always has been no matter what level you play at.

I agree that it is very frustrating at times because we are so very close to being a real competitor in this league and maybe even in the next.

I always use Reading and Wigan as the bench mark because they are clubs that were no bigger than us when they begun their meteoric rise to the top flight, it does take time and I just feel that sometimes we need to be a bit more patient.

I genuinely believe that we will push on as a club and indeed a team to the next level, whether that is an established championship club or one that pushes on to the promised land of the premier league.

Whatever happens I think that we have got the right people in the right places and it will require a little more patience from the fans and they do not come more ardent and loyal than myself.

By the way is that special bus still running on match days from Swanage ?

U T C I A D.
Please don't take my comments the wrong way as I have said before we sometimes have to pinch ourselves to think we are watching afcb with the standard of football we are playing these days. but the sitters we miss is sometimes frustrating to say the least, this will be addressed but will not happen over night. I am more than happy with the football we are watching this season also am sure we will improve in the striking department over the next couple of seasons. Sadly the special bus for match days from Swanage does not run anymore, but there is a lot of Man u, Chelsea, Liverpool ect shirts heading to the Whitehorse and East bar on Saturdays and Sundays. For me sorry but I will stick to the live games afcb is my team no matter what league there in.
[quote][p][bold]coops1965cherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swanagecherrie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]coops1965cherry[/bold] wrote: Mixed feelings about this because it was never a free kick you can see he clearly played the ball, if it were anywhere else on the pitch he would not have given it. He bowed under pressure and was a poor decision from the ref. We were a decent bet after the first half and on another day we should and could have scored but remember we are playing against an ex Premier league club who has a stadium that holds 33,000 people and once again I ask for a little perspective about the result. We are punching above our weight and don,t get me wrong so are many other clubs and until such time when we become a bigger and more established club we will do ell to compete at this level. I have no doubt that we will not only survive this season but finish above some bigger and more established clubs than ourselves.. Yes it is frustrating that we are letting points slip but we really are so very close to becoming the real deal in this division. Just remember where we were just three seasons ago ! U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]Are we punching above our weight ? we should be but are we, I don't think so. In all aspects of the game we are more than a match for most teams in this league except scoring. Lets not forget these strikers are professional footballers not Sunday league players but top players and they shouldn't be missing as many the EASY chances we can excuse half chances but not the easy ones we create in a lot of games. If we can fix this no one would say we are punching above our weight.[/p][/quote]Fair point, however I just feel that there are certain times we need to check where and how far we have come in such a short space of time. I totally agree that we are a little profligate with some of our chances but the step up has been easier made by some players than others. Regarding goals scored that is the most difficult part of the game and always has been no matter what level you play at. I agree that it is very frustrating at times because we are so very close to being a real competitor in this league and maybe even in the next. I always use Reading and Wigan as the bench mark because they are clubs that were no bigger than us when they begun their meteoric rise to the top flight, it does take time and I just feel that sometimes we need to be a bit more patient. I genuinely believe that we will push on as a club and indeed a team to the next level, whether that is an established championship club or one that pushes on to the promised land of the premier league. Whatever happens I think that we have got the right people in the right places and it will require a little more patience from the fans and they do not come more ardent and loyal than myself. By the way is that special bus still running on match days from Swanage ? U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]Please don't take my comments the wrong way as I have said before we sometimes have to pinch ourselves to think we are watching afcb with the standard of football we are playing these days. but the sitters we miss is sometimes frustrating to say the least, this will be addressed but will not happen over night. I am more than happy with the football we are watching this season also am sure we will improve in the striking department over the next couple of seasons. Sadly the special bus for match days from Swanage does not run anymore, but there is a lot of Man u, Chelsea, Liverpool ect shirts heading to the Whitehorse and East bar on Saturdays and Sundays. For me sorry but I will stick to the live games afcb is my team no matter what league there in. swanagecherrie
  • Score: 2

5:10pm Mon 24 Feb 14

sea poole says...

...and the ref commented after the game...?
...and the ref commented after the game...? sea poole
  • Score: 2

5:15pm Mon 24 Feb 14

seuthsayer says...

...tbh I was too far away to judge the tackle but when you slide in on a player running towards you on the edge of the box you are taking a chance on conceding a free kick...if Hughes had been shut down earlier then he would not have got that far...so disappointing to see tat happen after we had battled so hard agait one tof the top sides we have played. All this would be academic had we turned our control and possesion into a goal or two by then? Eddie Howe needs to fix our attacking shortfalls or we will be looking anxiously over our shoulders pretty soon. Yann & Rantie (or Pitman) next game please with Grabban on the bench.
...tbh I was too far away to judge the tackle but when you slide in on a player running towards you on the edge of the box you are taking a chance on conceding a free kick...if Hughes had been shut down earlier then he would not have got that far...so disappointing to see tat happen after we had battled so hard agait one tof the top sides we have played. All this would be academic had we turned our control and possesion into a goal or two by then? Eddie Howe needs to fix our attacking shortfalls or we will be looking anxiously over our shoulders pretty soon. Yann & Rantie (or Pitman) next game please with Grabban on the bench. seuthsayer
  • Score: 1

6:37pm Mon 24 Feb 14

afcbtintin says...

a real supporter wrote:
Anybody who has attended a game will have seen the quality of referees (or lack of) in this league. I really thought we would get better than we had in Div 1 but they all seem to be the same. It really does show when we have a premiership ref, which we have had for a few games, in the way the game flows. The answer falls back to the FA who only seem to care about the Premiership.
Putting the ref to one side, we cannot continue to create so many chances without scoring. Unfortunately, Rantie is not the goalscorer he should be and never has been. He needs and is obviously receiving a lot of coaching but he should not be starting games. We must try Grab's and Kermit. I'm even starting to understand the calls for Brett maybe a few starts and regular games would help (look at Harte). As somebody stated previously it would not be worse than we currently have!
Don't get at TK. If Ritchie and Grabbs hasn't squandered their early chances he would have had two assists to his name.

UTCIAD
[quote][p][bold]a real supporter[/bold] wrote: Anybody who has attended a game will have seen the quality of referees (or lack of) in this league. I really thought we would get better than we had in Div 1 but they all seem to be the same. It really does show when we have a premiership ref, which we have had for a few games, in the way the game flows. The answer falls back to the FA who only seem to care about the Premiership. Putting the ref to one side, we cannot continue to create so many chances without scoring. Unfortunately, Rantie is not the goalscorer he should be and never has been. He needs and is obviously receiving a lot of coaching but he should not be starting games. We must try Grab's and Kermit. I'm even starting to understand the calls for Brett maybe a few starts and regular games would help (look at Harte). As somebody stated previously it would not be worse than we currently have![/p][/quote]Don't get at TK. If Ritchie and Grabbs hasn't squandered their early chances he would have had two assists to his name. UTCIAD afcbtintin
  • Score: 7

6:54pm Mon 24 Feb 14

bmthtillidie says...

As an AFCB fans this is important to us all. But during half time you may have noticed an appeal for Nadish Kunwar who went missing on 31st Jan His body was found at 5 'clock that afternoon in the river Derwent. RIP and condolences to his family and friends.
As an AFCB fans this is important to us all. But during half time you may have noticed an appeal for Nadish Kunwar who went missing on 31st Jan His body was found at 5 'clock that afternoon in the river Derwent. RIP and condolences to his family and friends. bmthtillidie
  • Score: 0

6:54pm Mon 24 Feb 14

golfer33 says...

thought Grabban was useless on saturday, would like to see Jann with TK.
Nice to see us play with 2 forwards away from home thou.
some you win some you dont, remember Pughs diving.
thought Grabban was useless on saturday, would like to see Jann with TK. Nice to see us play with 2 forwards away from home thou. some you win some you dont, remember Pughs diving. golfer33
  • Score: -2

7:28pm Mon 24 Feb 14

nonnogeppetto says...

Having seen the goal resulting from the free-kick I would prefer if our players asked 'why can't we score from a similar position'? Instead of moaning about the merit of the award in the first place, We often seem to sky the ball as if we were playing with the OVAL kind!!

I wasn't at the game but sometimes our strikers need to be less selfish and pass the ball (when applicable) to another player that may have a better chance of scoring. All too often they try to score spectacular goals when a simpler move prove more fruitful. Partnerships means more than 1 (self) I very much hope that a partnership will soon emerge and make more of the chances created.
Having seen the goal resulting from the free-kick I would prefer if our players asked 'why can't we score from a similar position'? Instead of moaning about the merit of the award in the first place, We often seem to sky the ball as if we were playing with the OVAL kind!! I wasn't at the game but sometimes our strikers need to be less selfish and pass the ball (when applicable) to another player that may have a better chance of scoring. All too often they try to score spectacular goals when a simpler move prove more fruitful. Partnerships means more than 1 (self) I very much hope that a partnership will soon emerge and make more of the chances created. nonnogeppetto
  • Score: 0

7:28pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Nat1234 says...

seuthsayer wrote:
...tbh I was too far away to judge the tackle but when you slide in on a player running towards you on the edge of the box you are taking a chance on conceding a free kick...if Hughes had been shut down earlier then he would not have got that far...so disappointing to see tat happen after we had battled so hard agait one tof the top sides we have played. All this would be academic had we turned our control and possesion into a goal or two by then? Eddie Howe needs to fix our attacking shortfalls or we will be looking anxiously over our shoulders pretty soon. Yann & Rantie (or Pitman) next game please with Grabban on the bench.
Grabban on the bench , don't make me laugh , I heard it all now.
[quote][p][bold]seuthsayer[/bold] wrote: ...tbh I was too far away to judge the tackle but when you slide in on a player running towards you on the edge of the box you are taking a chance on conceding a free kick...if Hughes had been shut down earlier then he would not have got that far...so disappointing to see tat happen after we had battled so hard agait one tof the top sides we have played. All this would be academic had we turned our control and possesion into a goal or two by then? Eddie Howe needs to fix our attacking shortfalls or we will be looking anxiously over our shoulders pretty soon. Yann & Rantie (or Pitman) next game please with Grabban on the bench.[/p][/quote]Grabban on the bench , don't make me laugh , I heard it all now. Nat1234
  • Score: -2

7:32pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Nat1234 says...

afcbtintin wrote:
a real supporter wrote:
Anybody who has attended a game will have seen the quality of referees (or lack of) in this league. I really thought we would get better than we had in Div 1 but they all seem to be the same. It really does show when we have a premiership ref, which we have had for a few games, in the way the game flows. The answer falls back to the FA who only seem to care about the Premiership.
Putting the ref to one side, we cannot continue to create so many chances without scoring. Unfortunately, Rantie is not the goalscorer he should be and never has been. He needs and is obviously receiving a lot of coaching but he should not be starting games. We must try Grab's and Kermit. I'm even starting to understand the calls for Brett maybe a few starts and regular games would help (look at Harte). As somebody stated previously it would not be worse than we currently have!
Don't get at TK. If Ritchie and Grabbs hasn't squandered their early chances he would have had two assists to his name.

UTCIAD
Well I cant believe your getting at Ritchie and grabbs , at least they have shots on Goal . Just how many shots has our 2.5 million pound player had on goal . To be totally honest , I could probably count it on one hand ..
[quote][p][bold]afcbtintin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]a real supporter[/bold] wrote: Anybody who has attended a game will have seen the quality of referees (or lack of) in this league. I really thought we would get better than we had in Div 1 but they all seem to be the same. It really does show when we have a premiership ref, which we have had for a few games, in the way the game flows. The answer falls back to the FA who only seem to care about the Premiership. Putting the ref to one side, we cannot continue to create so many chances without scoring. Unfortunately, Rantie is not the goalscorer he should be and never has been. He needs and is obviously receiving a lot of coaching but he should not be starting games. We must try Grab's and Kermit. I'm even starting to understand the calls for Brett maybe a few starts and regular games would help (look at Harte). As somebody stated previously it would not be worse than we currently have![/p][/quote]Don't get at TK. If Ritchie and Grabbs hasn't squandered their early chances he would have had two assists to his name. UTCIAD[/p][/quote]Well I cant believe your getting at Ritchie and grabbs , at least they have shots on Goal . Just how many shots has our 2.5 million pound player had on goal . To be totally honest , I could probably count it on one hand .. Nat1234
  • Score: -5

8:26pm Mon 24 Feb 14

dekayedcherry says...

Having seen "that tackle" on TV several times now, it was abundantly clear that Tommy Elphick got the ball cleanly before Hughes went over his (Tommy's) outstretched leg. He came in from Hughes left hand side not from behind him,so why did the ref give him a yellow card ??. The ref clearly got it totally wrong and the assessor should make this clear to the FA ( but we will never know the outcome will we !!).
However we should have "put the game to bed" long before but sadly all our forwards are lacking confidence and either snatching at chances or playing the ball across the box passing the buck to someone else. Both Grabban and Ritchie have gone off the boil a bit and are not putting away their chances. Rantie is creating moments of panic in the oppositions defence but again is snatching at chances or half chances. Playing Kermorgant up front on his own in the second half taking Rantie off allowed Derby to come back more into the game and Grabban needed to play deeper.
I'm sure EH will get the pairings right and we will start to take more of our chances. Pitman needs a chance in a front two playing in his old striking role rather than deeper in front of midfield as he is perhaps the best opportunist in the box along with "Kermit". Both Grabban and Rantie are players that like running at defenders and taking them on which creates for others. So Eddie has to find away to incorperate all the abilities in our total football style.
Home game against Doncaster would be a good time for the forwards to find their shooting boots as 3pts needed. UTC.
Having seen "that tackle" on TV several times now, it was abundantly clear that Tommy Elphick got the ball cleanly before Hughes went over his (Tommy's) outstretched leg. He came in from Hughes left hand side not from behind him,so why did the ref give him a yellow card ??. The ref clearly got it totally wrong and the assessor should make this clear to the FA ( but we will never know the outcome will we !!). However we should have "put the game to bed" long before but sadly all our forwards are lacking confidence and either snatching at chances or playing the ball across the box passing the buck to someone else. Both Grabban and Ritchie have gone off the boil a bit and are not putting away their chances. Rantie is creating moments of panic in the oppositions defence but again is snatching at chances or half chances. Playing Kermorgant up front on his own in the second half taking Rantie off allowed Derby to come back more into the game and Grabban needed to play deeper. I'm sure EH will get the pairings right and we will start to take more of our chances. Pitman needs a chance in a front two playing in his old striking role rather than deeper in front of midfield as he is perhaps the best opportunist in the box along with "Kermit". Both Grabban and Rantie are players that like running at defenders and taking them on which creates for others. So Eddie has to find away to incorperate all the abilities in our total football style. Home game against Doncaster would be a good time for the forwards to find their shooting boots as 3pts needed. UTC. dekayedcherry
  • Score: 4

9:28am Tue 25 Feb 14

coops1965cherry says...

swanagecherrie wrote:
coops1965cherry wrote:
swanagecherrie wrote:
coops1965cherry wrote:
Mixed feelings about this because it was never a free kick you can see he clearly played the ball, if it were anywhere else on the pitch he would not have given it.
He bowed under pressure and was a poor decision from the ref.

We were a decent bet after the first half and on another day we should and could have scored but remember we are playing against an ex Premier league club who has a stadium that holds 33,000 people and once again I ask for a little perspective about the result.

We are punching above our weight and don,t get me wrong so are many other clubs and until such time when we become a bigger and more established club we will do ell to compete at this level.

I have no doubt that we will not only survive this season but finish above some bigger and more established clubs than ourselves..

Yes it is frustrating that we are letting points slip but we really are so very close to becoming the real deal in this division.
Just remember where we were just three seasons ago !

U T C I A D.
Are we punching above our weight ? we should be but are we, I don't think so. In all aspects of the game we are more than a match for most teams in this league except scoring. Lets not forget these strikers are professional footballers not Sunday league players but top players and they shouldn't be missing as many the EASY chances we can excuse half chances but not the easy ones we create in a lot of games. If we can fix this no one would say we are punching above our weight.
Fair point, however I just feel that there are certain times we need to check where and how far we have come in such a short space of time.

I totally agree that we are a little profligate with some of our chances but the step up has been easier made by some players than others.

Regarding goals scored that is the most difficult part of the game and always has been no matter what level you play at.

I agree that it is very frustrating at times because we are so very close to being a real competitor in this league and maybe even in the next.

I always use Reading and Wigan as the bench mark because they are clubs that were no bigger than us when they begun their meteoric rise to the top flight, it does take time and I just feel that sometimes we need to be a bit more patient.

I genuinely believe that we will push on as a club and indeed a team to the next level, whether that is an established championship club or one that pushes on to the promised land of the premier league.

Whatever happens I think that we have got the right people in the right places and it will require a little more patience from the fans and they do not come more ardent and loyal than myself.

By the way is that special bus still running on match days from Swanage ?

U T C I A D.
Please don't take my comments the wrong way as I have said before we sometimes have to pinch ourselves to think we are watching afcb with the standard of football we are playing these days. but the sitters we miss is sometimes frustrating to say the least, this will be addressed but will not happen over night. I am more than happy with the football we are watching this season also am sure we will improve in the striking department over the next couple of seasons. Sadly the special bus for match days from Swanage does not run anymore, but there is a lot of Man u, Chelsea, Liverpool ect shirts heading to the Whitehorse and East bar on Saturdays and Sundays. For me sorry but I will stick to the live games afcb is my team no matter what league there in.
Fair play Swanage, there are plenty of shirt toting so called BIG CLUB fans in every town but like you and fair play for such a trip every week, I too love my Cherries till the day I die.

I agree it is frustrating some times when we do not hit the net when we should. It kills me to say but I think Golfer 33 was right to a point that Grabban was a little off colour on Saturday but then again even the greatest players in the world have an off day, so sod off Golfer and support the team instead of slagging them off.
Right that's me done rant over.

U T C I A D.
[quote][p][bold]swanagecherrie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]coops1965cherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swanagecherrie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]coops1965cherry[/bold] wrote: Mixed feelings about this because it was never a free kick you can see he clearly played the ball, if it were anywhere else on the pitch he would not have given it. He bowed under pressure and was a poor decision from the ref. We were a decent bet after the first half and on another day we should and could have scored but remember we are playing against an ex Premier league club who has a stadium that holds 33,000 people and once again I ask for a little perspective about the result. We are punching above our weight and don,t get me wrong so are many other clubs and until such time when we become a bigger and more established club we will do ell to compete at this level. I have no doubt that we will not only survive this season but finish above some bigger and more established clubs than ourselves.. Yes it is frustrating that we are letting points slip but we really are so very close to becoming the real deal in this division. Just remember where we were just three seasons ago ! U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]Are we punching above our weight ? we should be but are we, I don't think so. In all aspects of the game we are more than a match for most teams in this league except scoring. Lets not forget these strikers are professional footballers not Sunday league players but top players and they shouldn't be missing as many the EASY chances we can excuse half chances but not the easy ones we create in a lot of games. If we can fix this no one would say we are punching above our weight.[/p][/quote]Fair point, however I just feel that there are certain times we need to check where and how far we have come in such a short space of time. I totally agree that we are a little profligate with some of our chances but the step up has been easier made by some players than others. Regarding goals scored that is the most difficult part of the game and always has been no matter what level you play at. I agree that it is very frustrating at times because we are so very close to being a real competitor in this league and maybe even in the next. I always use Reading and Wigan as the bench mark because they are clubs that were no bigger than us when they begun their meteoric rise to the top flight, it does take time and I just feel that sometimes we need to be a bit more patient. I genuinely believe that we will push on as a club and indeed a team to the next level, whether that is an established championship club or one that pushes on to the promised land of the premier league. Whatever happens I think that we have got the right people in the right places and it will require a little more patience from the fans and they do not come more ardent and loyal than myself. By the way is that special bus still running on match days from Swanage ? U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]Please don't take my comments the wrong way as I have said before we sometimes have to pinch ourselves to think we are watching afcb with the standard of football we are playing these days. but the sitters we miss is sometimes frustrating to say the least, this will be addressed but will not happen over night. I am more than happy with the football we are watching this season also am sure we will improve in the striking department over the next couple of seasons. Sadly the special bus for match days from Swanage does not run anymore, but there is a lot of Man u, Chelsea, Liverpool ect shirts heading to the Whitehorse and East bar on Saturdays and Sundays. For me sorry but I will stick to the live games afcb is my team no matter what league there in.[/p][/quote]Fair play Swanage, there are plenty of shirt toting so called BIG CLUB fans in every town but like you and fair play for such a trip every week, I too love my Cherries till the day I die. I agree it is frustrating some times when we do not hit the net when we should. It kills me to say but I think Golfer 33 was right to a point that Grabban was a little off colour on Saturday but then again even the greatest players in the world have an off day, so sod off Golfer and support the team instead of slagging them off. Right that's me done rant over. U T C I A D. coops1965cherry
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