AFC Bournemouth: Cherries 'hard done by' over controversial free kick says Howe

Bournemouth Echo: FRUSTRATED: AFC Bournemouth boss Eddie Howe FRUSTRATED: AFC Bournemouth boss Eddie Howe

CHERRIES boss Eddie Howe insisted referee Mark Heywood had made the wrong call over the controversial free kick which handed Derby County victory this afternoon.

With four minutes to play, the Cheshire official ruled that Cherries skipper Tommy Elphick had brought down Will Hughes on the edge of the penalty area despite vehement protestations from the visitors.

However, County's top scorer Chris Martin took full advantage, rifling home a sublime, swerving match-winner direct from the free kick to give the Rams a slender 1-0 success at Pride Park.

It cruelly denied Cherries a first clean sheet on the road since August and a share of the spoils against high-flying Derby at the end of an even encounter.

And Howe, who was also left frustrated by a host of missed chances in the first half, was adamant Elphick had won the ball cleanly.

Howe said: “We felt hard done by over the goal and how it came about but that was life for us today.

“My immediate reaction was that it wasn’t (a free kick). I thought Tommy took the ball and his reaction spoke volumes for me.

“The referee has had to make a quick decision, it has gone against us and the lad has stuck in the top corner.

“I had a good view, it was on my side and I thought Tommy took the ball.”

But despite being disappointed by his side’s profligacy, the Cherries manager was heartened by a battling display against another of the second tier’s big guns.

He added: “We should have been ahead at half-time and had our backs to the wall a little bit in the second half but we defended really well and I couldn’t see Derby scoring from open play.

“I thought we defended very well from the front and the work rate of the front two was matched by the rest of the team in a really good rearguard display.

“We created good chances and also had really good situations we didn’t make the most of.

“There were counter-attacking opportunities, two against ones, three against twos, where we ultimately made bad decisions and didn’t end up with the outcome we wanted.

“But the pleasing thing was the never-say-die attitude of the players. They never gave up and even late in the game they were trying to get a point. If we keep performing like that we’ll be okay.

“You look at our recent games against Leicester, Burnley and Derby in quick succession and we haven’t been a million miles away from any of those sides.

“We narrowly lost two of those games which could have gone either way so I think we should take a lot of confidence from that going into our remaining games.”

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6:31pm Sat 22 Feb 14

TedMacsCherryPants says...

Hard luck on the result today boys, valiant effort and nearly brought a point home.
UTMC!
Hard luck on the result today boys, valiant effort and nearly brought a point home. UTMC! TedMacsCherryPants

6:45pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Nat1234 says...

Hard luck today , listened on the radio . Seems like we had most of the game . Only criticism , the starting line up ...
Hard luck today , listened on the radio . Seems like we had most of the game . Only criticism , the starting line up ... Nat1234

6:52pm Sat 22 Feb 14

devon fan says...

it was always going to be difficult at Derby, but we have to stop feeling unlucky, the game is about scoring goals to win and we cannot do this so we do not deserve to pick up the points, we have some difficult matches coming up and unless we start to score we will be drawn deeper into the relegation battle, I am sick and tired of reading comments on the club website and the Echo from management and players alike telling us how focussed they are and how they are going to be force in this league, with goals we could be, so come on Eddie cut the Bullsh-t out and start to pick for best strikers and put aas much work into your attack as you do your defence, and remember when this pattern carries on week after week luck does not come into it, it is sheer lack of ability to win games
it was always going to be difficult at Derby, but we have to stop feeling unlucky, the game is about scoring goals to win and we cannot do this so we do not deserve to pick up the points, we have some difficult matches coming up and unless we start to score we will be drawn deeper into the relegation battle, I am sick and tired of reading comments on the club website and the Echo from management and players alike telling us how focussed they are and how they are going to be force in this league, with goals we could be, so come on Eddie cut the Bullsh-t out and start to pick for best strikers and put aas much work into your attack as you do your defence, and remember when this pattern carries on week after week luck does not come into it, it is sheer lack of ability to win games devon fan

6:58pm Sat 22 Feb 14

dustbindanny says...

Got to say it, but, we could have been three (3) up at half time, but why oh why can't we finish ????
Got to say it, but, we could have been three (3) up at half time, but why oh why can't we finish ???? dustbindanny

7:00pm Sat 22 Feb 14

nonnogeppetto says...

For personal reasons I so wanted them to win today but it was always going to be a tough game and whilst there is no point in complaining about decisions one day we will get one going our way for a change. Keep it going lads you are progressing well considering it is our first attempt in this league.
For personal reasons I so wanted them to win today but it was always going to be a tough game and whilst there is no point in complaining about decisions one day we will get one going our way for a change. Keep it going lads you are progressing well considering it is our first attempt in this league. nonnogeppetto

7:44pm Sat 22 Feb 14

swanagecherrie says...

How many times are we to say hard luck, We out played the opposition for most of the game, luck didn't go our way, the ref gave us bad dissensions. The fact is we miss far to many easy chances I don't mean half chances (but we do miss those as well) I mean easy ones. We have a great side we play fantastic football apart from the most important bit putting the ball in the net. Don't get me wrong we are doing well or the 1st season in the championship but if we converted half the easy chances we would already be safe. Unfortunately good strikers are expensive but the chances we create we should be putting more away. Derby are a good side as the table shows but we created easy chances against them that we missed they had a 25 yd shot and hit the target we had the same and missed that's the difference a small difference but a important one. However I still think we will easily stay up which is all we wanted this season.
How many times are we to say hard luck, We out played the opposition for most of the game, luck didn't go our way, the ref gave us bad dissensions. The fact is we miss far to many easy chances I don't mean half chances (but we do miss those as well) I mean easy ones. We have a great side we play fantastic football apart from the most important bit putting the ball in the net. Don't get me wrong we are doing well or the 1st season in the championship but if we converted half the easy chances we would already be safe. Unfortunately good strikers are expensive but the chances we create we should be putting more away. Derby are a good side as the table shows but we created easy chances against them that we missed they had a 25 yd shot and hit the target we had the same and missed that's the difference a small difference but a important one. However I still think we will easily stay up which is all we wanted this season. swanagecherrie

7:46pm Sat 22 Feb 14

adyb1967 says...

The manager has been going on about the defence this past week, but same old story it seems.... missed chances! Looking at the stats, Cherries midfielders Arter, O'Kane, Surman & Macdonald have TWO league goals BETWEEN THEM... Pugh hasn't scored for 12, Ritchie for 9... Rantie has 3 in 24... if you can't score, you won't win games, simple fact!
The manager has been going on about the defence this past week, but same old story it seems.... missed chances! Looking at the stats, Cherries midfielders Arter, O'Kane, Surman & Macdonald have TWO league goals BETWEEN THEM... Pugh hasn't scored for 12, Ritchie for 9... Rantie has 3 in 24... if you can't score, you won't win games, simple fact! adyb1967

7:50pm Sat 22 Feb 14

abc100 says...

swanagecherrie wrote:
How many times are we to say hard luck, We out played the opposition for most of the game, luck didn't go our way, the ref gave us bad dissensions. The fact is we miss far to many easy chances I don't mean half chances (but we do miss those as well) I mean easy ones. We have a great side we play fantastic football apart from the most important bit putting the ball in the net. Don't get me wrong we are doing well or the 1st season in the championship but if we converted half the easy chances we would already be safe. Unfortunately good strikers are expensive but the chances we create we should be putting more away. Derby are a good side as the table shows but we created easy chances against them that we missed they had a 25 yd shot and hit the target we had the same and missed that's the difference a small difference but a important one. However I still think we will easily stay up which is all we wanted this season.
Sums it up perfectly, it has been a problem for a long long time, I would love to see what our conversion rate is cos we have no problems at all creating chances even when we have played poorly, it just shows how far we have come that we are continually disappointed to not be beating clubs that are far bigger than we will probably ever be, if we had an out and out goal scorer we would easily be in the play offs
[quote][p][bold]swanagecherrie[/bold] wrote: How many times are we to say hard luck, We out played the opposition for most of the game, luck didn't go our way, the ref gave us bad dissensions. The fact is we miss far to many easy chances I don't mean half chances (but we do miss those as well) I mean easy ones. We have a great side we play fantastic football apart from the most important bit putting the ball in the net. Don't get me wrong we are doing well or the 1st season in the championship but if we converted half the easy chances we would already be safe. Unfortunately good strikers are expensive but the chances we create we should be putting more away. Derby are a good side as the table shows but we created easy chances against them that we missed they had a 25 yd shot and hit the target we had the same and missed that's the difference a small difference but a important one. However I still think we will easily stay up which is all we wanted this season.[/p][/quote]Sums it up perfectly, it has been a problem for a long long time, I would love to see what our conversion rate is cos we have no problems at all creating chances even when we have played poorly, it just shows how far we have come that we are continually disappointed to not be beating clubs that are far bigger than we will probably ever be, if we had an out and out goal scorer we would easily be in the play offs abc100

8:05pm Sat 22 Feb 14

golfer33 says...

abc100 wrote:
swanagecherrie wrote:
How many times are we to say hard luck, We out played the opposition for most of the game, luck didn't go our way, the ref gave us bad dissensions. The fact is we miss far to many easy chances I don't mean half chances (but we do miss those as well) I mean easy ones. We have a great side we play fantastic football apart from the most important bit putting the ball in the net. Don't get me wrong we are doing well or the 1st season in the championship but if we converted half the easy chances we would already be safe. Unfortunately good strikers are expensive but the chances we create we should be putting more away. Derby are a good side as the table shows but we created easy chances against them that we missed they had a 25 yd shot and hit the target we had the same and missed that's the difference a small difference but a important one. However I still think we will easily stay up which is all we wanted this season.
Sums it up perfectly, it has been a problem for a long long time, I would love to see what our conversion rate is cos we have no problems at all creating chances even when we have played poorly, it just shows how far we have come that we are continually disappointed to not be beating clubs that are far bigger than we will probably ever be, if we had an out and out goal scorer we would easily be in the play offs
Maybe, we need to change the way we play to score goals.
Howe has to sort it out
[quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swanagecherrie[/bold] wrote: How many times are we to say hard luck, We out played the opposition for most of the game, luck didn't go our way, the ref gave us bad dissensions. The fact is we miss far to many easy chances I don't mean half chances (but we do miss those as well) I mean easy ones. We have a great side we play fantastic football apart from the most important bit putting the ball in the net. Don't get me wrong we are doing well or the 1st season in the championship but if we converted half the easy chances we would already be safe. Unfortunately good strikers are expensive but the chances we create we should be putting more away. Derby are a good side as the table shows but we created easy chances against them that we missed they had a 25 yd shot and hit the target we had the same and missed that's the difference a small difference but a important one. However I still think we will easily stay up which is all we wanted this season.[/p][/quote]Sums it up perfectly, it has been a problem for a long long time, I would love to see what our conversion rate is cos we have no problems at all creating chances even when we have played poorly, it just shows how far we have come that we are continually disappointed to not be beating clubs that are far bigger than we will probably ever be, if we had an out and out goal scorer we would easily be in the play offs[/p][/quote]Maybe, we need to change the way we play to score goals. Howe has to sort it out golfer33

8:34pm Sat 22 Feb 14

MidlandExile says...

Once again a great away performance apart from making the most of our opportunities. First half we were by far the better side and should have gone in ahead but, as so often has been the case this season, we didn't.
I can't honestly say if it was a free-kick from where I was but, judging by the reaction of the players and the total ineptitude of the officials throughout the game, I have every reason to believe that we were done. It's easy to blame referees and linesmen but these three were truly dreadful for the whole of the game. As always, little old Bournemouth failed to get any of the decisions against the 'so-called' bigger team.
Good turn-out today and complementary comments from the relieved home fans. However, three scrappy points would be welcome once in a while.
Once again a great away performance apart from making the most of our opportunities. First half we were by far the better side and should have gone in ahead but, as so often has been the case this season, we didn't. I can't honestly say if it was a free-kick from where I was but, judging by the reaction of the players and the total ineptitude of the officials throughout the game, I have every reason to believe that we were done. It's easy to blame referees and linesmen but these three were truly dreadful for the whole of the game. As always, little old Bournemouth failed to get any of the decisions against the 'so-called' bigger team. Good turn-out today and complementary comments from the relieved home fans. However, three scrappy points would be welcome once in a while. MidlandExile

8:49pm Sat 22 Feb 14

solihull cherry says...

Two comments from Derby fans overheard on the way back to the station; "We could have been three down at half-time" and " I don't know what Bournemouth are doing down there ( in the lower half of the table)" and one from my wife when I got home, "It doesn't matter how good you are if you don't score goals. "
However, the performance more than matched Derby's high-flyers all over the pitch except for the controversial free kick which was an outstanding goal to lose to; Derby will feel they were very lucky. As for me, as an exile only able to see the odd game, it was great to be with about 1000 travelling fans in a fantastic stadium in a crowd of 27000 with a Bournemouth team which looks as though it belongs in the Championship. We just need some goals to ensure that justice is done this season and we stay up!
Two comments from Derby fans overheard on the way back to the station; "We could have been three down at half-time" and " I don't know what Bournemouth are doing down there ( in the lower half of the table)" and one from my wife when I got home, "It doesn't matter how good you are if you don't score goals. " However, the performance more than matched Derby's high-flyers all over the pitch except for the controversial free kick which was an outstanding goal to lose to; Derby will feel they were very lucky. As for me, as an exile only able to see the odd game, it was great to be with about 1000 travelling fans in a fantastic stadium in a crowd of 27000 with a Bournemouth team which looks as though it belongs in the Championship. We just need some goals to ensure that justice is done this season and we stay up! solihull cherry

8:53pm Sat 22 Feb 14

bmthtillidie says...

Being in the Bmth stand I didn't have a clue whether it was a good tackle or not but the protest from a number of players said it all. The fact that in the 1st half we outplayed a team who will be in the play offs with a good shot at the premier league says we are playing well. We are playing too well to be relegated but a win against Donc next week is needed. Sorry I know quite a few want Rantie to succeed as I do but today's performance is simply not good enough. I was very pleased to see us start with 4-4-2 and I though we invited pressure when we changed to 4-5-1. I would like to see Grabs and Kermit start next week.
Being in the Bmth stand I didn't have a clue whether it was a good tackle or not but the protest from a number of players said it all. The fact that in the 1st half we outplayed a team who will be in the play offs with a good shot at the premier league says we are playing well. We are playing too well to be relegated but a win against Donc next week is needed. Sorry I know quite a few want Rantie to succeed as I do but today's performance is simply not good enough. I was very pleased to see us start with 4-4-2 and I though we invited pressure when we changed to 4-5-1. I would like to see Grabs and Kermit start next week. bmthtillidie

8:54pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Solentcherry says...

Every week it seems we are unlucky not to get the result we deserve. Playing really well but not finishing off our chances is getting very frustrating. We're letting the opposition get off the hook time after time. Ggggrrrrrrrr........
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We owe someone a real tonking soon.......... Please !
Every week it seems we are unlucky not to get the result we deserve. Playing really well but not finishing off our chances is getting very frustrating. We're letting the opposition get off the hook time after time. Ggggrrrrrrrr........ . We owe someone a real tonking soon.......... Please ! Solentcherry

9:15pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Nat1234 says...

golfer33 wrote:
abc100 wrote:
swanagecherrie wrote:
How many times are we to say hard luck, We out played the opposition for most of the game, luck didn't go our way, the ref gave us bad dissensions. The fact is we miss far to many easy chances I don't mean half chances (but we do miss those as well) I mean easy ones. We have a great side we play fantastic football apart from the most important bit putting the ball in the net. Don't get me wrong we are doing well or the 1st season in the championship but if we converted half the easy chances we would already be safe. Unfortunately good strikers are expensive but the chances we create we should be putting more away. Derby are a good side as the table shows but we created easy chances against them that we missed they had a 25 yd shot and hit the target we had the same and missed that's the difference a small difference but a important one. However I still think we will easily stay up which is all we wanted this season.
Sums it up perfectly, it has been a problem for a long long time, I would love to see what our conversion rate is cos we have no problems at all creating chances even when we have played poorly, it just shows how far we have come that we are continually disappointed to not be beating clubs that are far bigger than we will probably ever be, if we had an out and out goal scorer we would easily be in the play offs
Maybe, we need to change the way we play to score goals.
Howe has to sort it out
I agree , I cannot see why Eddie still persists on playing rantie , can't Eddie see it yet RANTIE WON'T GET US GOALS , not this season , maybe next , I can't understand why yann is not starting , today on sky there was an article on Charlton , and one of the things that was said was Charlton let there 2 best players go , and yann was one of them , SO PLEASE EDDIE PLEASE PLAY HIM INSTEAD OF THAT WASTE OF SPACE PLANTIE ...
[quote][p][bold]golfer33[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swanagecherrie[/bold] wrote: How many times are we to say hard luck, We out played the opposition for most of the game, luck didn't go our way, the ref gave us bad dissensions. The fact is we miss far to many easy chances I don't mean half chances (but we do miss those as well) I mean easy ones. We have a great side we play fantastic football apart from the most important bit putting the ball in the net. Don't get me wrong we are doing well or the 1st season in the championship but if we converted half the easy chances we would already be safe. Unfortunately good strikers are expensive but the chances we create we should be putting more away. Derby are a good side as the table shows but we created easy chances against them that we missed they had a 25 yd shot and hit the target we had the same and missed that's the difference a small difference but a important one. However I still think we will easily stay up which is all we wanted this season.[/p][/quote]Sums it up perfectly, it has been a problem for a long long time, I would love to see what our conversion rate is cos we have no problems at all creating chances even when we have played poorly, it just shows how far we have come that we are continually disappointed to not be beating clubs that are far bigger than we will probably ever be, if we had an out and out goal scorer we would easily be in the play offs[/p][/quote]Maybe, we need to change the way we play to score goals. Howe has to sort it out[/p][/quote]I agree , I cannot see why Eddie still persists on playing rantie , can't Eddie see it yet RANTIE WON'T GET US GOALS , not this season , maybe next , I can't understand why yann is not starting , today on sky there was an article on Charlton , and one of the things that was said was Charlton let there 2 best players go , and yann was one of them , SO PLEASE EDDIE PLEASE PLAY HIM INSTEAD OF THAT WASTE OF SPACE PLANTIE ... Nat1234

9:16pm Sat 22 Feb 14

dorsetyellows says...

With the football Bournemouth play , IMO a top class striker could take the club into the premiership .
With the football Bournemouth play , IMO a top class striker could take the club into the premiership . dorsetyellows

9:23pm Sat 22 Feb 14

solihull cherry says...

I haven't seen Rantie play before but it was clear that he has a real turn of speed which worries defences; - Derby had to keep two men back to cover him and when he went off we were less effective overall. Might well be worth starting with Yann and Rantie!
I haven't seen Rantie play before but it was clear that he has a real turn of speed which worries defences; - Derby had to keep two men back to cover him and when he went off we were less effective overall. Might well be worth starting with Yann and Rantie! solihull cherry

9:28pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Western Sunset says...

As a life-long Derby supporter, though living in Wimborne, I think my team got out of jail free today.
As a life-long Derby supporter, though living in Wimborne, I think my team got out of jail free today. Western Sunset

9:56pm Sat 22 Feb 14

aproycherry says...

bmthtillidie wrote:
Being in the Bmth stand I didn't have a clue whether it was a good tackle or not but the protest from a number of players said it all. The fact that in the 1st half we outplayed a team who will be in the play offs with a good shot at the premier league says we are playing well. We are playing too well to be relegated but a win against Donc next week is needed. Sorry I know quite a few want Rantie to succeed as I do but today's performance is simply not good enough. I was very pleased to see us start with 4-4-2 and I though we invited pressure when we changed to 4-5-1. I would like to see Grabs and Kermit start next week.
I was sat in line with the tackle. Tommy won the ball cleanly.
[quote][p][bold]bmthtillidie[/bold] wrote: Being in the Bmth stand I didn't have a clue whether it was a good tackle or not but the protest from a number of players said it all. The fact that in the 1st half we outplayed a team who will be in the play offs with a good shot at the premier league says we are playing well. We are playing too well to be relegated but a win against Donc next week is needed. Sorry I know quite a few want Rantie to succeed as I do but today's performance is simply not good enough. I was very pleased to see us start with 4-4-2 and I though we invited pressure when we changed to 4-5-1. I would like to see Grabs and Kermit start next week.[/p][/quote]I was sat in line with the tackle. Tommy won the ball cleanly. aproycherry

10:11pm Sat 22 Feb 14

rogthedodge123 says...

We cant keep on saying how unlucky we were,that the opposition did not deserve it as the fact is goals win games and for all our possession and good football we are just not putting the ball in the back of the net,so come on lads get hold of the ball and lets start shooting from all angles and distance,just get the ball on the edge of the box push it left or right and put your foot through the ball and even if you miss it will keep the fans warm but the law of average says that one or two will fly in.
We cant keep on saying how unlucky we were,that the opposition did not deserve it as the fact is goals win games and for all our possession and good football we are just not putting the ball in the back of the net,so come on lads get hold of the ball and lets start shooting from all angles and distance,just get the ball on the edge of the box push it left or right and put your foot through the ball and even if you miss it will keep the fans warm but the law of average says that one or two will fly in. rogthedodge123

10:16pm Sat 22 Feb 14

DCFC 10 says...

I am a Derby season ticket holder and am always interested in how the other teams fans see the game. I feel some of the criticism of your team is somewhat harsh and a 3-0 half time score would not have flattered you. I know it can be annoying to be told you are playing well and still losing , but Bournemouth were one of the best teams at pride park this year. We have been blowing teams away ,but you defended very well and always looked dangerous on the break. Stick with your team and young( and still learning ) manager and you will do well in this league. The way your club has got to the championship ,by always trying to play football in the right way means that you have a lot of respect from other clubs fans. Good luck for rest of the season.
I am a Derby season ticket holder and am always interested in how the other teams fans see the game. I feel some of the criticism of your team is somewhat harsh and a 3-0 half time score would not have flattered you. I know it can be annoying to be told you are playing well and still losing , but Bournemouth were one of the best teams at pride park this year. We have been blowing teams away ,but you defended very well and always looked dangerous on the break. Stick with your team and young( and still learning ) manager and you will do well in this league. The way your club has got to the championship ,by always trying to play football in the right way means that you have a lot of respect from other clubs fans. Good luck for rest of the season. DCFC 10

10:43pm Sat 22 Feb 14

eaststandman says...

Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium.
But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not.
WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE.

Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front.

He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.
Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium. But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not. WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE. Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front. He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves. eaststandman

11:56pm Sat 22 Feb 14

RedhillPete says...

Whilst agreeing that we need to keep clean sheets (a 0-0 draw would have been a good result), we need to start scoring again. Feel sorry for Grabban who up front on his own also contributed some goals, but Ranties pace, whilst exciting in itself, is not producing an end result.

If we can finish 15th - 17th at end of season it will have been a successful first season, but with goals we could be another level better.

Can Maxim please stretch to a specialist striker coach, who can work on their play in the last third and in particular finnishing.
Whilst agreeing that we need to keep clean sheets (a 0-0 draw would have been a good result), we need to start scoring again. Feel sorry for Grabban who up front on his own also contributed some goals, but Ranties pace, whilst exciting in itself, is not producing an end result. If we can finish 15th - 17th at end of season it will have been a successful first season, but with goals we could be another level better. Can Maxim please stretch to a specialist striker coach, who can work on their play in the last third and in particular finnishing. RedhillPete

1:15am Sun 23 Feb 14

Rotterdam says...

eaststandman wrote:
Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium.
But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not.
WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE.

Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front.

He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.
Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored.

And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations.

Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front.

By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?
[quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium. But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not. WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE. Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front. He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.[/p][/quote]Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored. And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations. Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front. By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him? Rotterdam

7:35am Sun 23 Feb 14

Richard 1976 says...

DCFC 10 wrote:
I am a Derby season ticket holder and am always interested in how the other teams fans see the game. I feel some of the criticism of your team is somewhat harsh and a 3-0 half time score would not have flattered you. I know it can be annoying to be told you are playing well and still losing , but Bournemouth were one of the best teams at pride park this year. We have been blowing teams away ,but you defended very well and always looked dangerous on the break. Stick with your team and young( and still learning ) manager and you will do well in this league. The way your club has got to the championship ,by always trying to play football in the right way means that you have a lot of respect from other clubs fans. Good luck for rest of the season.
Tend to agree with a comment further up that someone is going to a get a good tonking off us sometime soon.. I thought we played well yesterday and despite a few wobbles deserved a point. For derby supporters to pay our team compliments is very generous but scant consolation for a bad refereeing descision that cost us a clean sheet and a point..anyway roll on next Saturday! Great atmosphere in the bournemouth end yesterday. Up the cherries
[quote][p][bold]DCFC 10[/bold] wrote: I am a Derby season ticket holder and am always interested in how the other teams fans see the game. I feel some of the criticism of your team is somewhat harsh and a 3-0 half time score would not have flattered you. I know it can be annoying to be told you are playing well and still losing , but Bournemouth were one of the best teams at pride park this year. We have been blowing teams away ,but you defended very well and always looked dangerous on the break. Stick with your team and young( and still learning ) manager and you will do well in this league. The way your club has got to the championship ,by always trying to play football in the right way means that you have a lot of respect from other clubs fans. Good luck for rest of the season.[/p][/quote]Tend to agree with a comment further up that someone is going to a get a good tonking off us sometime soon.. I thought we played well yesterday and despite a few wobbles deserved a point. For derby supporters to pay our team compliments is very generous but scant consolation for a bad refereeing descision that cost us a clean sheet and a point..anyway roll on next Saturday! Great atmosphere in the bournemouth end yesterday. Up the cherries Richard 1976

8:00am Sun 23 Feb 14

Fanfor45 says...

Having read all the comments above and having been at Pride Park myself yesterday I can observe the following. Derby were nowhere near the team that beat us at Dean Court. We played well but simply cannot put the ball in the net. Grabban had two guilt-edged chances. If the Derby fans posting on here thought we were one of the best teams in the division then there must be some poor teams vying for promotion because we played well within ourselves. If we’d have taken all our chances 3-0 would have been a flattering score at half-time for Derby Their two subs made a difference in the second half. Now for Rantie. Virtually all that is said about him is correct. Pacy, talented, great potential, brilliant provider, but presently absolutely useless. I would love to see him come out next season and take the championship by the scruff of the neck. His talent is all there but it is not showing itself in the way that close on £2 million should. If anything frustrates the average fan at the moment it is not scoring goals when we patently should be. Rantie, unfortunately is right in the firing line for that. Give him a rest and try Kermit and Grabbs together. Up the Cherries!!! And on to Doncaster next Saturday. As a postscript I’m also fulfilling my obligations to my local team Eastleigh on Tuesday. Three games in a week!! Virtually unheard of.
Having read all the comments above and having been at Pride Park myself yesterday I can observe the following. Derby were nowhere near the team that beat us at Dean Court. We played well but simply cannot put the ball in the net. Grabban had two guilt-edged chances. If the Derby fans posting on here thought we were one of the best teams in the division then there must be some poor teams vying for promotion because we played well within ourselves. If we’d have taken all our chances 3-0 would have been a flattering score at half-time for Derby Their two subs made a difference in the second half. Now for Rantie. Virtually all that is said about him is correct. Pacy, talented, great potential, brilliant provider, but presently absolutely useless. I would love to see him come out next season and take the championship by the scruff of the neck. His talent is all there but it is not showing itself in the way that close on £2 million should. If anything frustrates the average fan at the moment it is not scoring goals when we patently should be. Rantie, unfortunately is right in the firing line for that. Give him a rest and try Kermit and Grabbs together. Up the Cherries!!! And on to Doncaster next Saturday. As a postscript I’m also fulfilling my obligations to my local team Eastleigh on Tuesday. Three games in a week!! Virtually unheard of. Fanfor45

8:28am Sun 23 Feb 14

cherrygood says...

I don't think I've heard Eddie as gutted after a game as he was in the Solent interview.
I don't think I've heard Eddie as gutted after a game as he was in the Solent interview. cherrygood

8:41am Sun 23 Feb 14

eaststandman says...

Rotterdam wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium.
But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not.
WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE.

Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front.

He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.
Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored.

And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations.

Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front.

By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?
Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score.

When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy.

I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that.

Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?
[quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium. But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not. WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE. Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front. He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.[/p][/quote]Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored. And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations. Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front. By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?[/p][/quote]Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score. When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy. I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that. Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ? eaststandman

9:16am Sun 23 Feb 14

gtd says...

eaststandman wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium.
But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not.
WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE.

Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front.

He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.
Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored.

And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations.

Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front.

By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?
Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score.

When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy.

I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that.

Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?
Totally agree; I cannot for the life of me understand why Pitman has been sidelined. Even Grabban has stopped scoring. Why not try Pitman and Kermit up front? After all they cannot do worse than score zero like the other two.....
It's no good 'playing well' if we don't score; one win in nine does not bode well.
Play Pitman; he is a proven goalscorer.
[quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium. But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not. WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE. Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front. He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.[/p][/quote]Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored. And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations. Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front. By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?[/p][/quote]Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score. When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy. I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that. Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?[/p][/quote]Totally agree; I cannot for the life of me understand why Pitman has been sidelined. Even Grabban has stopped scoring. Why not try Pitman and Kermit up front? After all they cannot do worse than score zero like the other two..... It's no good 'playing well' if we don't score; one win in nine does not bode well. Play Pitman; he is a proven goalscorer. gtd

9:23am Sun 23 Feb 14

golfer33 says...

eaststandman wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium.
But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not.
WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE.

Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front.

He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.
Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored.

And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations.

Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front.

By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?
Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score.

When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy.

I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that.

Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?
guess your glass is half full, a bit like Nat, Howe about getting behind the team.
[quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium. But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not. WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE. Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front. He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.[/p][/quote]Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored. And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations. Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front. By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?[/p][/quote]Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score. When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy. I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that. Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?[/p][/quote]guess your glass is half full, a bit like Nat, Howe about getting behind the team. golfer33

9:57am Sun 23 Feb 14

ASM says...

tubbs got a brace for crawley in teir 2-1 win yesterday. wes thomas scored in rotherams 2-1 win and mcquoid only got 5 minutes for peterbrough.
tubbs got a brace for crawley in teir 2-1 win yesterday. wes thomas scored in rotherams 2-1 win and mcquoid only got 5 minutes for peterbrough. ASM

10:00am Sun 23 Feb 14

AFCB Badger says...

I'm too gutted to try and fend off the negativity this week but we do have a run of games now against sides lower in the division and I am 100% sure we will start picking up the victories,Kermogant and Rantie still for me,pace and presence in the box.
I'm too gutted to try and fend off the negativity this week but we do have a run of games now against sides lower in the division and I am 100% sure we will start picking up the victories,Kermogant and Rantie still for me,pace and presence in the box. AFCB Badger

10:28am Sun 23 Feb 14

susi.m says...

DCFC 10 wrote:
I am a Derby season ticket holder and am always interested in how the other teams fans see the game. I feel some of the criticism of your team is somewhat harsh and a 3-0 half time score would not have flattered you. I know it can be annoying to be told you are playing well and still losing , but Bournemouth were one of the best teams at pride park this year. We have been blowing teams away ,but you defended very well and always looked dangerous on the break. Stick with your team and young( and still learning ) manager and you will do well in this league. The way your club has got to the championship ,by always trying to play football in the right way means that you have a lot of respect from other clubs fans. Good luck for rest of the season.
Many thanks for your comments.
I didn't travel yesterday but listened on radio.
All the long standing fans, who are realistic, knew at the beginning of the season that just to stay up was the goal. Then consolidate next season.
So, I will be more than happy to just stay up even by one point.
FTR my husband tells everyone that in his opinion Derby are the best team he has seen at Dean Court this season.
[quote][p][bold]DCFC 10[/bold] wrote: I am a Derby season ticket holder and am always interested in how the other teams fans see the game. I feel some of the criticism of your team is somewhat harsh and a 3-0 half time score would not have flattered you. I know it can be annoying to be told you are playing well and still losing , but Bournemouth were one of the best teams at pride park this year. We have been blowing teams away ,but you defended very well and always looked dangerous on the break. Stick with your team and young( and still learning ) manager and you will do well in this league. The way your club has got to the championship ,by always trying to play football in the right way means that you have a lot of respect from other clubs fans. Good luck for rest of the season.[/p][/quote]Many thanks for your comments. I didn't travel yesterday but listened on radio. All the long standing fans, who are realistic, knew at the beginning of the season that just to stay up was the goal. Then consolidate next season. So, I will be more than happy to just stay up even by one point. FTR my husband tells everyone that in his opinion Derby are the best team he has seen at Dean Court this season. susi.m

10:30am Sun 23 Feb 14

swanagecherrie says...

DCFC 10 wrote:
I am a Derby season ticket holder and am always interested in how the other teams fans see the game. I feel some of the criticism of your team is somewhat harsh and a 3-0 half time score would not have flattered you. I know it can be annoying to be told you are playing well and still losing , but Bournemouth were one of the best teams at pride park this year. We have been blowing teams away ,but you defended very well and always looked dangerous on the break. Stick with your team and young( and still learning ) manager and you will do well in this league. The way your club has got to the championship ,by always trying to play football in the right way means that you have a lot of respect from other clubs fans. Good luck for rest of the season.
What a pleasant change to see rival fans coming on here with constructive views instead of the usual dross. I don't think most of our fans are criticizing the team we are pinching ourselves watching really sharp football every week, just a little frustrated to see them dominate most teams only to be let down with poor finishing. However I am sure this will be addressed by Eddie and sorted. Good luck for the rest of the season from afcb.
[quote][p][bold]DCFC 10[/bold] wrote: I am a Derby season ticket holder and am always interested in how the other teams fans see the game. I feel some of the criticism of your team is somewhat harsh and a 3-0 half time score would not have flattered you. I know it can be annoying to be told you are playing well and still losing , but Bournemouth were one of the best teams at pride park this year. We have been blowing teams away ,but you defended very well and always looked dangerous on the break. Stick with your team and young( and still learning ) manager and you will do well in this league. The way your club has got to the championship ,by always trying to play football in the right way means that you have a lot of respect from other clubs fans. Good luck for rest of the season.[/p][/quote]What a pleasant change to see rival fans coming on here with constructive views instead of the usual dross. I don't think most of our fans are criticizing the team we are pinching ourselves watching really sharp football every week, just a little frustrated to see them dominate most teams only to be let down with poor finishing. However I am sure this will be addressed by Eddie and sorted. Good luck for the rest of the season from afcb. swanagecherrie

10:42am Sun 23 Feb 14

Nat1234 says...

golfer33 wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium.
But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not.
WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE.

Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front.

He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.
Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored.

And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations.

Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front.

By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?
Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score.

When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy.

I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that.

Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?
guess your glass is half full, a bit like Nat, Howe about getting behind the team.
No he's just being realalistic , rantie is not up to the job . Just remember what price we paid for him 2 .5 million . And I have no idea how much he is paid weekly , it won't be a pittance , he may come good , but at the moment he is rubbish , why can't can't play yann from the start ,
[quote][p][bold]golfer33[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium. But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not. WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE. Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front. He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.[/p][/quote]Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored. And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations. Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front. By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?[/p][/quote]Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score. When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy. I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that. Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?[/p][/quote]guess your glass is half full, a bit like Nat, Howe about getting behind the team.[/p][/quote]No he's just being realalistic , rantie is not up to the job . Just remember what price we paid for him 2 .5 million . And I have no idea how much he is paid weekly , it won't be a pittance , he may come good , but at the moment he is rubbish , why can't can't play yann from the start , Nat1234

10:46am Sun 23 Feb 14

bmthtillidie says...

solihull cherry wrote:
I haven't seen Rantie play before but it was clear that he has a real turn of speed which worries defences; - Derby had to keep two men back to cover him and when he went off we were less effective overall. Might well be worth starting with Yann and Rantie!
Sorry Solihull cherry I disagree. Grabs is the best at holding up the ball and top scorer. He has to start.
[quote][p][bold]solihull cherry[/bold] wrote: I haven't seen Rantie play before but it was clear that he has a real turn of speed which worries defences; - Derby had to keep two men back to cover him and when he went off we were less effective overall. Might well be worth starting with Yann and Rantie![/p][/quote]Sorry Solihull cherry I disagree. Grabs is the best at holding up the ball and top scorer. He has to start. bmthtillidie

10:52am Sun 23 Feb 14

bmthtillidie says...

aproycherry wrote:
bmthtillidie wrote:
Being in the Bmth stand I didn't have a clue whether it was a good tackle or not but the protest from a number of players said it all. The fact that in the 1st half we outplayed a team who will be in the play offs with a good shot at the premier league says we are playing well. We are playing too well to be relegated but a win against Donc next week is needed. Sorry I know quite a few want Rantie to succeed as I do but today's performance is simply not good enough. I was very pleased to see us start with 4-4-2 and I though we invited pressure when we changed to 4-5-1. I would like to see Grabs and Kermit start next week.
I was sat in line with the tackle. Tommy won the ball cleanly.
Thanks aproycherry but it just makes me more angry with the ref! I got a bad feeling about him when just after kick off the ball was punted up to Pugh and was intercepted by the Derby right back who headed it out and he gave the throw in to Derby. That set the tone for the rest of his performance!
[quote][p][bold]aproycherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bmthtillidie[/bold] wrote: Being in the Bmth stand I didn't have a clue whether it was a good tackle or not but the protest from a number of players said it all. The fact that in the 1st half we outplayed a team who will be in the play offs with a good shot at the premier league says we are playing well. We are playing too well to be relegated but a win against Donc next week is needed. Sorry I know quite a few want Rantie to succeed as I do but today's performance is simply not good enough. I was very pleased to see us start with 4-4-2 and I though we invited pressure when we changed to 4-5-1. I would like to see Grabs and Kermit start next week.[/p][/quote]I was sat in line with the tackle. Tommy won the ball cleanly.[/p][/quote]Thanks aproycherry but it just makes me more angry with the ref! I got a bad feeling about him when just after kick off the ball was punted up to Pugh and was intercepted by the Derby right back who headed it out and he gave the throw in to Derby. That set the tone for the rest of his performance! bmthtillidie

11:14am Sun 23 Feb 14

Solentcherry says...

AFCB Badger wrote:
I'm too gutted to try and fend off the negativity this week but we do have a run of games now against sides lower in the division and I am 100% sure we will start picking up the victories,Kermogant and Rantie still for me,pace and presence in the box.
What negativity ffs !??
It's not negative to want the team you support to be as good as you know they can be, if only they could score some goals to compliment their great football!
Being complacent and content to see them let points run away like sand through their fingers every week as long as their playing well, is negative to me!
[quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: I'm too gutted to try and fend off the negativity this week but we do have a run of games now against sides lower in the division and I am 100% sure we will start picking up the victories,Kermogant and Rantie still for me,pace and presence in the box.[/p][/quote]What negativity ffs !?? It's not negative to want the team you support to be as good as you know they can be, if only they could score some goals to compliment their great football! Being complacent and content to see them let points run away like sand through their fingers every week as long as their playing well, is negative to me! Solentcherry

11:32am Sun 23 Feb 14

devon fan says...

Nat1234 wrote:
golfer33 wrote:
abc100 wrote:
swanagecherrie wrote:
How many times are we to say hard luck, We out played the opposition for most of the game, luck didn't go our way, the ref gave us bad dissensions. The fact is we miss far to many easy chances I don't mean half chances (but we do miss those as well) I mean easy ones. We have a great side we play fantastic football apart from the most important bit putting the ball in the net. Don't get me wrong we are doing well or the 1st season in the championship but if we converted half the easy chances we would already be safe. Unfortunately good strikers are expensive but the chances we create we should be putting more away. Derby are a good side as the table shows but we created easy chances against them that we missed they had a 25 yd shot and hit the target we had the same and missed that's the difference a small difference but a important one. However I still think we will easily stay up which is all we wanted this season.
Sums it up perfectly, it has been a problem for a long long time, I would love to see what our conversion rate is cos we have no problems at all creating chances even when we have played poorly, it just shows how far we have come that we are continually disappointed to not be beating clubs that are far bigger than we will probably ever be, if we had an out and out goal scorer we would easily be in the play offs
Maybe, we need to change the way we play to score goals.
Howe has to sort it out
I agree , I cannot see why Eddie still persists on playing rantie , can't Eddie see it yet RANTIE WON'T GET US GOALS , not this season , maybe next , I can't understand why yann is not starting , today on sky there was an article on Charlton , and one of the things that was said was Charlton let there 2 best players go , and yann was one of them , SO PLEASE EDDIE PLEASE PLAY HIM INSTEAD OF THAT WASTE OF SPACE PLANTIE ...
every manager likes to see his team classed as a good footballing team but a good team needs to know how too mix their style, Eddie is obssesed in retaining the ball and he seems to have taken his eye off the problem, I agree with your comments about Pitman having watched him since his arrival in the youth team he is the only natural goalscorer we have, it seems as though Eddie is determined to justify the amount of money spent on Rantie by playing him, there is no reason why the player cannot come good next season but not this time , having read the club website this morning it is full off the usual comments, we were unlucky we are improving it was not a foul, 10shots and only one on target is not bad luck it is poor play we have played 31 matches we are not suddenly going to improve now, unless we start to score goals we will not win matches if we do not win matches we will be in the relegation dogfight
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]golfer33[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swanagecherrie[/bold] wrote: How many times are we to say hard luck, We out played the opposition for most of the game, luck didn't go our way, the ref gave us bad dissensions. The fact is we miss far to many easy chances I don't mean half chances (but we do miss those as well) I mean easy ones. We have a great side we play fantastic football apart from the most important bit putting the ball in the net. Don't get me wrong we are doing well or the 1st season in the championship but if we converted half the easy chances we would already be safe. Unfortunately good strikers are expensive but the chances we create we should be putting more away. Derby are a good side as the table shows but we created easy chances against them that we missed they had a 25 yd shot and hit the target we had the same and missed that's the difference a small difference but a important one. However I still think we will easily stay up which is all we wanted this season.[/p][/quote]Sums it up perfectly, it has been a problem for a long long time, I would love to see what our conversion rate is cos we have no problems at all creating chances even when we have played poorly, it just shows how far we have come that we are continually disappointed to not be beating clubs that are far bigger than we will probably ever be, if we had an out and out goal scorer we would easily be in the play offs[/p][/quote]Maybe, we need to change the way we play to score goals. Howe has to sort it out[/p][/quote]I agree , I cannot see why Eddie still persists on playing rantie , can't Eddie see it yet RANTIE WON'T GET US GOALS , not this season , maybe next , I can't understand why yann is not starting , today on sky there was an article on Charlton , and one of the things that was said was Charlton let there 2 best players go , and yann was one of them , SO PLEASE EDDIE PLEASE PLAY HIM INSTEAD OF THAT WASTE OF SPACE PLANTIE ...[/p][/quote]every manager likes to see his team classed as a good footballing team but a good team needs to know how too mix their style, Eddie is obssesed in retaining the ball and he seems to have taken his eye off the problem, I agree with your comments about Pitman having watched him since his arrival in the youth team he is the only natural goalscorer we have, it seems as though Eddie is determined to justify the amount of money spent on Rantie by playing him, there is no reason why the player cannot come good next season but not this time , having read the club website this morning it is full off the usual comments, we were unlucky we are improving it was not a foul, 10shots and only one on target is not bad luck it is poor play we have played 31 matches we are not suddenly going to improve now, unless we start to score goals we will not win matches if we do not win matches we will be in the relegation dogfight devon fan

11:34am Sun 23 Feb 14

AFCPaul says...

PLEASE can Rantie not start anymore! Yes he can run around the goal etc, but he actually needs to put the ball in the goal! Like most people agree, we need to start scoring, and QUICK. We should start with Kermorgant and Grabban upfront, theres nothing to loose!
PLEASE can Rantie not start anymore! Yes he can run around the goal etc, but he actually needs to put the ball in the goal! Like most people agree, we need to start scoring, and QUICK. We should start with Kermorgant and Grabban upfront, theres nothing to loose! AFCPaul

12:12pm Sun 23 Feb 14

devon fan says...

on a different matter altogether, did anyone see the article on CIDERSPACE covering Yeovil how their game yeaterday was attended by Eddie Mitchell accompianed by Messrs Groves and Brooks, I would not wish that on my worst enemy, how about stating a disaster fund for Yeovil fans
on a different matter altogether, did anyone see the article on CIDERSPACE covering Yeovil how their game yeaterday was attended by Eddie Mitchell accompianed by Messrs Groves and Brooks, I would not wish that on my worst enemy, how about stating a disaster fund for Yeovil fans devon fan

2:06pm Sun 23 Feb 14

AFCB Badger says...

AFCPaul wrote:
PLEASE can Rantie not start anymore! Yes he can run around the goal etc, but he actually needs to put the ball in the goal! Like most people agree, we need to start scoring, and QUICK. We should start with Kermorgant and Grabban upfront, theres nothing to loose!
Quote;The bright start brought with it a host of chances with Derby County struggling to deal with the pace of Rantie. Has Eddie Howe finally worked out how to play the speedy South African?It would seem Derby County Twitterer Nick Birch thought so. He wrote “That Rantie was unplayable in 1st half. Why did Howe take him off? That just allowed us to attack with ease
[quote][p][bold]AFCPaul[/bold] wrote: PLEASE can Rantie not start anymore! Yes he can run around the goal etc, but he actually needs to put the ball in the goal! Like most people agree, we need to start scoring, and QUICK. We should start with Kermorgant and Grabban upfront, theres nothing to loose![/p][/quote]Quote;The bright start brought with it a host of chances with Derby County struggling to deal with the pace of Rantie. Has Eddie Howe finally worked out how to play the speedy South African?It would seem Derby County Twitterer Nick Birch thought so. He wrote “That Rantie was unplayable in 1st half. Why did Howe take him off? That just allowed us to attack with ease AFCB Badger

2:38pm Sun 23 Feb 14

MidlandExile says...

swanagecherrie wrote:
DCFC 10 wrote:
I am a Derby season ticket holder and am always interested in how the other teams fans see the game. I feel some of the criticism of your team is somewhat harsh and a 3-0 half time score would not have flattered you. I know it can be annoying to be told you are playing well and still losing , but Bournemouth were one of the best teams at pride park this year. We have been blowing teams away ,but you defended very well and always looked dangerous on the break. Stick with your team and young( and still learning ) manager and you will do well in this league. The way your club has got to the championship ,by always trying to play football in the right way means that you have a lot of respect from other clubs fans. Good luck for rest of the season.
What a pleasant change to see rival fans coming on here with constructive views instead of the usual dross. I don't think most of our fans are criticizing the team we are pinching ourselves watching really sharp football every week, just a little frustrated to see them dominate most teams only to be let down with poor finishing. However I am sure this will be addressed by Eddie and sorted. Good luck for the rest of the season from afcb.
Thanks DCFC10. It sometimes takes someone with no emotional attachment to a team to see the reality of the situation. We all know what needs to be improved and, in time, I'm sure improvements will be made. Its is obviously clear to most other supporters that we are team that play football in the right way and are moving in the right direction. Remember Derby are now third and 'a 3-0 half time score would not have flattered us'. We seem to be a victim of our own success and comments both on this forum and at matches are often totally unrealistic. Enjoy what we are seeing and keep it real.
[quote][p][bold]swanagecherrie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DCFC 10[/bold] wrote: I am a Derby season ticket holder and am always interested in how the other teams fans see the game. I feel some of the criticism of your team is somewhat harsh and a 3-0 half time score would not have flattered you. I know it can be annoying to be told you are playing well and still losing , but Bournemouth were one of the best teams at pride park this year. We have been blowing teams away ,but you defended very well and always looked dangerous on the break. Stick with your team and young( and still learning ) manager and you will do well in this league. The way your club has got to the championship ,by always trying to play football in the right way means that you have a lot of respect from other clubs fans. Good luck for rest of the season.[/p][/quote]What a pleasant change to see rival fans coming on here with constructive views instead of the usual dross. I don't think most of our fans are criticizing the team we are pinching ourselves watching really sharp football every week, just a little frustrated to see them dominate most teams only to be let down with poor finishing. However I am sure this will be addressed by Eddie and sorted. Good luck for the rest of the season from afcb.[/p][/quote]Thanks DCFC10. It sometimes takes someone with no emotional attachment to a team to see the reality of the situation. We all know what needs to be improved and, in time, I'm sure improvements will be made. Its is obviously clear to most other supporters that we are team that play football in the right way and are moving in the right direction. Remember Derby are now third and 'a 3-0 half time score would not have flattered us'. We seem to be a victim of our own success and comments both on this forum and at matches are often totally unrealistic. Enjoy what we are seeing and keep it real. MidlandExile

3:33pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Nat1234 says...

I have not read many posts on here defending rantie , are people actually starting to realise now ....
I have not read many posts on here defending rantie , are people actually starting to realise now .... Nat1234

3:57pm Sun 23 Feb 14

afcbtintin says...

devon fan wrote:
on a different matter altogether, did anyone see the article on CIDERSPACE covering Yeovil how their game yeaterday was attended by Eddie Mitchell accompianed by Messrs Groves and Brooks, I would not wish that on my worst enemy, how about stating a disaster fund for Yeovil fans
That's interesting. Last week he said he had only been going to Yeovil because the poole games had been postponed. But didn't they play at home yesterday against Corby ?

UTCIAD
[quote][p][bold]devon fan[/bold] wrote: on a different matter altogether, did anyone see the article on CIDERSPACE covering Yeovil how their game yeaterday was attended by Eddie Mitchell accompianed by Messrs Groves and Brooks, I would not wish that on my worst enemy, how about stating a disaster fund for Yeovil fans[/p][/quote]That's interesting. Last week he said he had only been going to Yeovil because the poole games had been postponed. But didn't they play at home yesterday against Corby ? UTCIAD afcbtintin

3:57pm Sun 23 Feb 14

afcbtintin says...

devon fan wrote:
on a different matter altogether, did anyone see the article on CIDERSPACE covering Yeovil how their game yeaterday was attended by Eddie Mitchell accompianed by Messrs Groves and Brooks, I would not wish that on my worst enemy, how about stating a disaster fund for Yeovil fans
That's interesting. Last week he said he had only been going to Yeovil because the poole games had been postponed. But didn't they play at home yesterday against Corby ?

UTCIAD
[quote][p][bold]devon fan[/bold] wrote: on a different matter altogether, did anyone see the article on CIDERSPACE covering Yeovil how their game yeaterday was attended by Eddie Mitchell accompianed by Messrs Groves and Brooks, I would not wish that on my worst enemy, how about stating a disaster fund for Yeovil fans[/p][/quote]That's interesting. Last week he said he had only been going to Yeovil because the poole games had been postponed. But didn't they play at home yesterday against Corby ? UTCIAD afcbtintin

4:28pm Sun 23 Feb 14

sea poole says...

afcbtintin -what's your obsession with Mitchell? He's no longer part of our club...or didn't you know?
afcbtintin -what's your obsession with Mitchell? He's no longer part of our club...or didn't you know? sea poole

4:45pm Sun 23 Feb 14

eaststandman says...

golfer33 wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium.
But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not.
WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE.

Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front.

He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.
Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored.

And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations.

Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front.

By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?
Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score.

When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy.

I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that.

Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?
guess your glass is half full, a bit like Nat, Howe about getting behind the team.
So although I went all the way to derby, I'm not getting behind the team ? What a ponce you are !
[quote][p][bold]golfer33[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium. But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not. WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE. Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front. He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.[/p][/quote]Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored. And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations. Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front. By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?[/p][/quote]Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score. When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy. I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that. Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?[/p][/quote]guess your glass is half full, a bit like Nat, Howe about getting behind the team.[/p][/quote]So although I went all the way to derby, I'm not getting behind the team ? What a ponce you are ! eaststandman

5:03pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Rotterdam says...

Nat1234 wrote:
I have not read many posts on here defending rantie , are people actually starting to realise now ....
Check out the endorsements of those that do defend him.

You've got to realise that at this level, most chances do get missed. Derby won that game by a single goal. How many did they miss ?
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: I have not read many posts on here defending rantie , are people actually starting to realise now ....[/p][/quote]Check out the endorsements of those that do defend him. You've got to realise that at this level, most chances do get missed. Derby won that game by a single goal. How many did they miss ? Rotterdam

5:24pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Solentcherry says...

AFCB Badger wrote:
AFCPaul wrote:
PLEASE can Rantie not start anymore! Yes he can run around the goal etc, but he actually needs to put the ball in the goal! Like most people agree, we need to start scoring, and QUICK. We should start with Kermorgant and Grabban upfront, theres nothing to loose!
Quote;The bright start brought with it a host of chances with Derby County struggling to deal with the pace of Rantie. Has Eddie Howe finally worked out how to play the speedy South African?It would seem Derby County Twitterer Nick Birch thought so. He wrote “That Rantie was unplayable in 1st half. Why did Howe take him off? That just allowed us to attack with ease
How many of those host of chances did we convert ?
[quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCPaul[/bold] wrote: PLEASE can Rantie not start anymore! Yes he can run around the goal etc, but he actually needs to put the ball in the goal! Like most people agree, we need to start scoring, and QUICK. We should start with Kermorgant and Grabban upfront, theres nothing to loose![/p][/quote]Quote;The bright start brought with it a host of chances with Derby County struggling to deal with the pace of Rantie. Has Eddie Howe finally worked out how to play the speedy South African?It would seem Derby County Twitterer Nick Birch thought so. He wrote “That Rantie was unplayable in 1st half. Why did Howe take him off? That just allowed us to attack with ease[/p][/quote]How many of those host of chances did we convert ? Solentcherry

5:38pm Sun 23 Feb 14

cromwell9 says...

gtd wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium.
But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not.
WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE.

Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front.

He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.
Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored.

And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations.

Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front.

By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?
Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score.

When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy.

I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that.

Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?
Totally agree; I cannot for the life of me understand why Pitman has been sidelined. Even Grabban has stopped scoring. Why not try Pitman and Kermit up front? After all they cannot do worse than score zero like the other two.....
It's no good 'playing well' if we don't score; one win in nine does not bode well.
Play Pitman; he is a proven goalscorer.
The reason Pitman is on the bench,is because he is off the pace ,and makes to many mistakes.
He is a proven goal scorer,bur not in the Championship,( Unless he is taking penaltys,).
Rantie has scored some vital goals for us ,and must be a nightmare for the opposition,
We are at the business end of the season,and we will nead 51 ponts to stay up,If pastseasons are anything to go by,
So there we have it .15 points,
Lets start with 3 against Donny,That will be a 6 pointer.
MUST WIN, .
[quote][p][bold]gtd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium. But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not. WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE. Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front. He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.[/p][/quote]Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored. And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations. Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front. By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?[/p][/quote]Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score. When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy. I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that. Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?[/p][/quote]Totally agree; I cannot for the life of me understand why Pitman has been sidelined. Even Grabban has stopped scoring. Why not try Pitman and Kermit up front? After all they cannot do worse than score zero like the other two..... It's no good 'playing well' if we don't score; one win in nine does not bode well. Play Pitman; he is a proven goalscorer.[/p][/quote]The reason Pitman is on the bench,is because he is off the pace ,and makes to many mistakes. He is a proven goal scorer,bur not in the Championship,( Unless he is taking penaltys,). Rantie has scored some vital goals for us ,and must be a nightmare for the opposition, We are at the business end of the season,and we will nead 51 ponts to stay up,If pastseasons are anything to go by, So there we have it .15 points, Lets start with 3 against Donny,That will be a 6 pointer. MUST WIN, . cromwell9

5:40pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Solentcherry says...

ASM wrote:
tubbs got a brace for crawley in teir 2-1 win yesterday. wes thomas scored in rotherams 2-1 win and mcquoid only got 5 minutes for peterbrough.
They've obviously found their comfort level again.
[quote][p][bold]ASM[/bold] wrote: tubbs got a brace for crawley in teir 2-1 win yesterday. wes thomas scored in rotherams 2-1 win and mcquoid only got 5 minutes for peterbrough.[/p][/quote]They've obviously found their comfort level again. Solentcherry

5:45pm Sun 23 Feb 14

cromwell9 says...

eaststandman wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium.
But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not.
WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE.

Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front.

He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.
Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored.

And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations.

Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front.

By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?
Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score.

When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy.

I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that.

Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?
Ranti will get the goals or make them.
The opposition dont know how to handle him ,
If he was at Yeovil.James Hayter would get a hat trick every wk.
[quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium. But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not. WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE. Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front. He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.[/p][/quote]Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored. And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations. Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front. By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?[/p][/quote]Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score. When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy. I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that. Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?[/p][/quote]Ranti will get the goals or make them. The opposition dont know how to handle him , If he was at Yeovil.James Hayter would get a hat trick every wk. cromwell9

6:01pm Sun 23 Feb 14

N Smith says...

cromwell9 wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium.
But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not.
WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE.

Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front.

He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.
Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored.

And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations.

Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front.

By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?
Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score.

When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy.

I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that.

Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?
Ranti will get the goals or make them.
The opposition dont know how to handle him ,
If he was at Yeovil.James Hayter would get a hat trick every wk.
If the defenders don't know how to handle him how come he never scores???
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium. But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not. WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE. Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front. He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.[/p][/quote]Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored. And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations. Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front. By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?[/p][/quote]Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score. When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy. I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that. Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?[/p][/quote]Ranti will get the goals or make them. The opposition dont know how to handle him , If he was at Yeovil.James Hayter would get a hat trick every wk.[/p][/quote]If the defenders don't know how to handle him how come he never scores??? N Smith

6:06pm Sun 23 Feb 14

N Smith says...

cromwell9 wrote:
gtd wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Rotterdam wrote:
eaststandman wrote:
Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium.
But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not.
WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE.

Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front.

He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.
Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored.

And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations.

Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front.

By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?
Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score.

When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy.

I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that.

Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?
Totally agree; I cannot for the life of me understand why Pitman has been sidelined. Even Grabban has stopped scoring. Why not try Pitman and Kermit up front? After all they cannot do worse than score zero like the other two.....
It's no good 'playing well' if we don't score; one win in nine does not bode well.
Play Pitman; he is a proven goalscorer.
The reason Pitman is on the bench,is because he is off the pace ,and makes to many mistakes.
He is a proven goal scorer,bur not in the Championship,( Unless he is taking penaltys,).
Rantie has scored some vital goals for us ,and must be a nightmare for the opposition,
We are at the business end of the season,and we will nead 51 ponts to stay up,If pastseasons are anything to go by,
So there we have it .15 points,
Lets start with 3 against Donny,That will be a 6 pointer.
MUST WIN, .
To be fair to Brett the formation hasn't really benefited Brett. Now Yann is on the scene surely we will see the old Brett back, it's just a case of wether Eddie will be brave enough to drop Grabbs and Rantie to give those two a chance.
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gtd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: Just got back from Pride Park. Great support from our fans, really good stadium. But, as usual we played great football up to the final third. Eddie, it doesn't matter whether it was a foul to them or not. WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SCORE. Do the brave thing. Rantie has had 24 matches and is simply not up to it. Pitman would have buried 50% of Ranties chances. I'm getting sick of starting every match with 10 men. Have you really got NO other person at the club you could put up front. He's too small, too weak, no control. Malmo must be p'ing themselves.[/p][/quote]Well, I only listened on the radio. Apparently Ritchie hit the post, so presumably if that had been just a millimeter or two the other way, we would have scored. And the problem with your comparison of Pitman with Rantie, is that Pitman doesn't have the pace of Rantie, so likely wouldn't have found himself in the same situations. Having said that, I think Rantie would do better coming on in the second half to attack a relatively tired defence with speed. It would be interesting to try starting with Grabban and Kermit up front. By the way, how long will you give Kermit before you start moaning at him?[/p][/quote]Yeah Richie hit the post. He didn't score. When the ball is played to Rantie, he is stationary - just like Pitman, but Rantie cannot bring the ball under control and has it taken off him like a naughty little boy. I stand by my statement. You've all turned your backs on someone who scored NINETEEN goals in 4 months and put us in this league - remember that. Maybe, if you stopped listening to Willo and actually saw for yourself how poor he is you may think again. Or maybe you like watching 10 men - and little TK ?[/p][/quote]Totally agree; I cannot for the life of me understand why Pitman has been sidelined. Even Grabban has stopped scoring. Why not try Pitman and Kermit up front? After all they cannot do worse than score zero like the other two..... It's no good 'playing well' if we don't score; one win in nine does not bode well. Play Pitman; he is a proven goalscorer.[/p][/quote]The reason Pitman is on the bench,is because he is off the pace ,and makes to many mistakes. He is a proven goal scorer,bur not in the Championship,( Unless he is taking penaltys,). Rantie has scored some vital goals for us ,and must be a nightmare for the opposition, We are at the business end of the season,and we will nead 51 ponts to stay up,If pastseasons are anything to go by, So there we have it .15 points, Lets start with 3 against Donny,That will be a 6 pointer. MUST WIN, .[/p][/quote]To be fair to Brett the formation hasn't really benefited Brett. Now Yann is on the scene surely we will see the old Brett back, it's just a case of wether Eddie will be brave enough to drop Grabbs and Rantie to give those two a chance. N Smith

6:15pm Sun 23 Feb 14

afcbtintin says...

sea poole wrote:
afcbtintin -what's your obsession with Mitchell? He's no longer part of our club...or didn't you know?
I am NOT obsessed. If I was - it wouldn't be with EM. I was merely replying to a post by Devon Fan.

UTCIAD
[quote][p][bold]sea poole[/bold] wrote: afcbtintin -what's your obsession with Mitchell? He's no longer part of our club...or didn't you know?[/p][/quote]I am NOT obsessed. If I was - it wouldn't be with EM. I was merely replying to a post by Devon Fan. UTCIAD afcbtintin

6:19pm Sun 23 Feb 14

pokesdown1 says...

Law 10.

The team scoring most goals shall win the game.

It Ain`t Hard.
Law 10. The team scoring most goals shall win the game. It Ain`t Hard. pokesdown1

8:20pm Sun 23 Feb 14

bmthtillidie says...

AFCB Badger wrote:
AFCPaul wrote:
PLEASE can Rantie not start anymore! Yes he can run around the goal etc, but he actually needs to put the ball in the goal! Like most people agree, we need to start scoring, and QUICK. We should start with Kermorgant and Grabban upfront, theres nothing to loose!
Quote;The bright start brought with it a host of chances with Derby County struggling to deal with the pace of Rantie. Has Eddie Howe finally worked out how to play the speedy South African?It would seem Derby County Twitterer Nick Birch thought so. He wrote “That Rantie was unplayable in 1st half. Why did Howe take him off? That just allowed us to attack with ease
Rantie unplayable my foot. He got into good positions and failed to control the ball. If he's that fast then having got beyond their last defender with a direct run on goal why did he allow the defender to get back and make a tackle? He needs to get on the training pitch and sort out his control. He has potential but needs to hone his skills. Kermit is reqd in the short term. Nick Birch wasn't watching the same game as me
[quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCPaul[/bold] wrote: PLEASE can Rantie not start anymore! Yes he can run around the goal etc, but he actually needs to put the ball in the goal! Like most people agree, we need to start scoring, and QUICK. We should start with Kermorgant and Grabban upfront, theres nothing to loose![/p][/quote]Quote;The bright start brought with it a host of chances with Derby County struggling to deal with the pace of Rantie. Has Eddie Howe finally worked out how to play the speedy South African?It would seem Derby County Twitterer Nick Birch thought so. He wrote “That Rantie was unplayable in 1st half. Why did Howe take him off? That just allowed us to attack with ease[/p][/quote]Rantie unplayable my foot. He got into good positions and failed to control the ball. If he's that fast then having got beyond their last defender with a direct run on goal why did he allow the defender to get back and make a tackle? He needs to get on the training pitch and sort out his control. He has potential but needs to hone his skills. Kermit is reqd in the short term. Nick Birch wasn't watching the same game as me bmthtillidie

7:28am Tue 25 Feb 14

alasdair1967 says...

I actually attended the match and left disappointed like so many others ,having seen the footage on social media over and over again no way on this earth was that a foul a top class tackle was made ,the referee needs to look at his mistake and consider his credentials ,if we where fighting for a play off place and missed out by one point ,his decision on Saturday ultimately could have cost a club millions if they had been in that play off place and consequently gone on to win the final
I actually attended the match and left disappointed like so many others ,having seen the footage on social media over and over again no way on this earth was that a foul a top class tackle was made ,the referee needs to look at his mistake and consider his credentials ,if we where fighting for a play off place and missed out by one point ,his decision on Saturday ultimately could have cost a club millions if they had been in that play off place and consequently gone on to win the final alasdair1967

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