AFC Bournemouth: Honours even at Dean Court

Bournemouth Echo: BOSS: Eddie Howe BOSS: Eddie Howe

CHERRIES shared the points with Championship high-fliers Burnley for the second time this season as the teams battled out a 1-1 draw at Dean Court today.

Tokelo Rantie, who had scored in Cherries’ 1-1 draw at Turf Moor in November, repeated the feat when he netted with a glancing header after 51 minutes.

But Keith Treacy came off the bench to equalise for the visitors after 67 minutes, converting a deflected cross from fellow substitute Ross Wallace.

Striker Rantie was restored to the Cherries starting line-up as boss Eddie Howe made one change, with Andrew Surman dropping to the bench.

Cherries goalkeeper Lee Camp was pressed into action after five minutes, the stopper clutching Michael Kightly’s cross-shot at his near post.

Tom Heaton saved comfortably after Cherries defender Steve Cook had tried his luck with a speculative effort from 30 yards before Simon Francis intercepted Dean Marney’s dangerous cross.

Defender Francis fashioned the only real noteworthy chance of the first half, his thunderous drive from 30 yards snaffled by Heaton after 20 minutes.

Clarets defender Jason Shackell threw himself in front of Rantie to block after the South Africa international had let fly following a promising move from Cherries.

Cherries had a scare after Harry Arter had missed his kick in the middle of the pitch but, after Kightly had threatened to capitalise, Eunan O’Kane was on hand to save the day.

As a first half of few goalscoring chances drew to a close, Cherries were forced into a reshuffle when O’Kane was replaced on the stroke of half-time by Shaun MacDonald.

Cherries broke the deadlock six minutes into the second half when Rantie met Ian Harte’s corner with a glancing header, the 24-year-old registering his third goal of the season for the club.

Burnley appealed in vain for a penalty with Sam Vokes claiming his flick had been handled by MacDonald, although referee Graham Scott was having none of it.

The Clarets levelled midway through the second half when substitutes Wallace and Treacy combined to unlock the Cherries defence.

Treacy fired home at the far post after Wallace’s deflected cross had fallen invitingly for him.

Grabban burst through after 73 minutes but saw his effort from a tight angle turned past the post by Heaton before the goalkeeper tipped Tommy Elphick’s header over the crossbar.

Yann Kermorgant, on as a 70th-minute replacement for Rantie, headed narrowly past the post from a Ritchie centre before the Frenchman lifted a free kick over the top.

Francis was denied late on when his thumping drive clipped the crossbar before Ritchie’s effort was clutched by Heaton diving at his near post in the final minute.

Cherries: Camp, Francis, Cook, Elphick, Harte, Ritchie, O’Kane (MacDonald, 45), Arter, Pugh, Rantie (Kermorgant, 70), Grabban (Pitman, 86).

Unused subs: Smith, Surman, Fraser, Allsop (g/k).

Booked: Pitman, Kermorgant.

Clarets: Heaton, Trippier, Shackell, Duff, Mee, Arfield (Treacy, 61), Jones, Marney, Kightly (Wallace, 61), Vokes (Barnes, 81), Ings.

Unused subs: Stanislas, Edgar, Long, Cisak (g/k).

Referee: Graham Scott (Bedfordshire).

Attendance: 10,422 (including 1,406 away supporters).

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5:20pm Sat 15 Feb 14

easthoweafcb. says...

Well well well its all quiet here tonight! Ings failed to score and votes failed to score. Rantie did! Two draws against Burnley and twice they had to equalise against us! Well done Eddie and OUR team!
Well well well its all quiet here tonight! Ings failed to score and votes failed to score. Rantie did! Two draws against Burnley and twice they had to equalise against us! Well done Eddie and OUR team! easthoweafcb.
  • Score: 22

5:24pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Nat1234 says...

We was robbed again , rantie made me eat some humble pie today , but anyone who knows anything about our lovely game must of noticed what a better side we were , when yann came on . I thought. Our defence kept Ings and voles very quiete ,,
We was robbed again , rantie made me eat some humble pie today , but anyone who knows anything about our lovely game must of noticed what a better side we were , when yann came on . I thought. Our defence kept Ings and voles very quiete ,, Nat1234
  • Score: 9

5:28pm Sat 15 Feb 14

pete woodley says...

Pitman booked within 2 minutes of coming on,and 4 fouls given away in 6 minutes at the end ?.
Pitman booked within 2 minutes of coming on,and 4 fouls given away in 6 minutes at the end ?. pete woodley
  • Score: 0

5:41pm Sat 15 Feb 14

nonnogeppetto says...

pete woodley wrote:
Pitman booked within 2 minutes of coming on,and 4 fouls given away in 6 minutes at the end ?.
I think it is typical of Pitman he lets his frustration get the better of him. He resents not being picked and I believe he hates coming on for 10 or so minutes. It is him that needs to change because if he doesn't we will end up playing the remainder of the game with 10 men.

If the TV will show it?? The free-kick should have been a penalty I thought but I'll stand corrected if the TV camera proves me wrong.
All in all we played well and could have got the three points. I think that Rantie will be better suited with Yann along side him.
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: Pitman booked within 2 minutes of coming on,and 4 fouls given away in 6 minutes at the end ?.[/p][/quote]I think it is typical of Pitman he lets his frustration get the better of him. He resents not being picked and I believe he hates coming on for 10 or so minutes. It is him that needs to change because if he doesn't we will end up playing the remainder of the game with 10 men. If the TV will show it?? The free-kick should have been a penalty I thought but I'll stand corrected if the TV camera proves me wrong. All in all we played well and could have got the three points. I think that Rantie will be better suited with Yann along side him. nonnogeppetto
  • Score: 14

5:52pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Afcbpete says...

Yet again, appalling officials, yet we have seen even worse this season, we could, and should of won. Great performance guys, shame we never got our just reward!! UTCIAD
Yet again, appalling officials, yet we have seen even worse this season, we could, and should of won. Great performance guys, shame we never got our just reward!! UTCIAD Afcbpete
  • Score: 8

6:02pm Sat 15 Feb 14

bmthtillidie says...

Another good point and another nail in Jontees relegation fight forecast. No one below us seems to be able to win a game. V pleased to see Eddie going 4-4-2. Would like to see this formation against Derby but I suspect it'll be back to 4-5-1. Can't see Eddie being too pleased with Pitman, listening to Solent seems he came close to being sent off. Needs to get his head right.
Another good point and another nail in Jontees relegation fight forecast. No one below us seems to be able to win a game. V pleased to see Eddie going 4-4-2. Would like to see this formation against Derby but I suspect it'll be back to 4-5-1. Can't see Eddie being too pleased with Pitman, listening to Solent seems he came close to being sent off. Needs to get his head right. bmthtillidie
  • Score: 6

6:06pm Sat 15 Feb 14

AFCB Badger says...

Yes good performance and should have got all three points.good performances from all our defenders and thought Pugh and Rantie were excellent.No worries about relegation as we will beat the lower teams on this form and we can kick on next season. Rantie and Kermit is the partnership for me up front. Not sure if Ings touched the ball all afternoon
Yes good performance and should have got all three points.good performances from all our defenders and thought Pugh and Rantie were excellent.No worries about relegation as we will beat the lower teams on this form and we can kick on next season. Rantie and Kermit is the partnership for me up front. Not sure if Ings touched the ball all afternoon AFCB Badger
  • Score: 9

6:12pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Oakdale12 says...

Poor Ref , Poor Linesmen , great team performance. We are staying up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!
Poor Ref , Poor Linesmen , great team performance. We are staying up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Oakdale12
  • Score: 6

6:22pm Sat 15 Feb 14

selectortone says...

Another precious point. If we can stay up and put in a couple of solid seasons in the Championship who knows where we might be in a few years time. Come on you Cherries!
Another precious point. If we can stay up and put in a couple of solid seasons in the Championship who knows where we might be in a few years time. Come on you Cherries! selectortone
  • Score: 11

6:32pm Sat 15 Feb 14

boyerboy says...

Linesman obviously lives in Burnley, truly awful and could not keep up with play. MOM surely was Franny ???????

So frustrating to see a lead slip away but I thought we looked like winning it with Kermit on the pitch, sorry still do not rate Rantie.
Linesman obviously lives in Burnley, truly awful and could not keep up with play. MOM surely was Franny ??????? So frustrating to see a lead slip away but I thought we looked like winning it with Kermit on the pitch, sorry still do not rate Rantie. boyerboy
  • Score: -4

6:33pm Sat 15 Feb 14

mkexile says...

Was Danny Ings actually on the pitch? I cant remember a single time when he did anything other than look at the ball. Vokes was not much more aof a threat but at least he worked for the ball. Credit to our defence, Harte may not be the fastest person on the pitch but he can distribute like the Dickens. Cookie is getting back to his best and Elphick is becoming as solid as ever he was. Francis, who never seems to be given a lot of credit, again put in a creditable shift, tested the keeper and hit the bar, Smith on the bench seems to have given him a kick up the backside.
The only bleak spot is Eunan going off, hope its not serious as we missed him second half.
Was Danny Ings actually on the pitch? I cant remember a single time when he did anything other than look at the ball. Vokes was not much more aof a threat but at least he worked for the ball. Credit to our defence, Harte may not be the fastest person on the pitch but he can distribute like the Dickens. Cookie is getting back to his best and Elphick is becoming as solid as ever he was. Francis, who never seems to be given a lot of credit, again put in a creditable shift, tested the keeper and hit the bar, Smith on the bench seems to have given him a kick up the backside. The only bleak spot is Eunan going off, hope its not serious as we missed him second half. mkexile
  • Score: 15

6:33pm Sat 15 Feb 14

60's cherries fan says...

nonnogeppetto wrote:
pete woodley wrote:
Pitman booked within 2 minutes of coming on,and 4 fouls given away in 6 minutes at the end ?.
I think it is typical of Pitman he lets his frustration get the better of him. He resents not being picked and I believe he hates coming on for 10 or so minutes. It is him that needs to change because if he doesn't we will end up playing the remainder of the game with 10 men.

If the TV will show it?? The free-kick should have been a penalty I thought but I'll stand corrected if the TV camera proves me wrong.
All in all we played well and could have got the three points. I think that Rantie will be better suited with Yann along side him.
To be honest, every time Pitman is brought on t is like going down to ten men anyway, not sure what Eddie sees in him.
Arter was superb today, also Grabban, I felt, ran his socks off as usual
[quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: Pitman booked within 2 minutes of coming on,and 4 fouls given away in 6 minutes at the end ?.[/p][/quote]I think it is typical of Pitman he lets his frustration get the better of him. He resents not being picked and I believe he hates coming on for 10 or so minutes. It is him that needs to change because if he doesn't we will end up playing the remainder of the game with 10 men. If the TV will show it?? The free-kick should have been a penalty I thought but I'll stand corrected if the TV camera proves me wrong. All in all we played well and could have got the three points. I think that Rantie will be better suited with Yann along side him.[/p][/quote]To be honest, every time Pitman is brought on t is like going down to ten men anyway, not sure what Eddie sees in him. Arter was superb today, also Grabban, I felt, ran his socks off as usual 60's cherries fan
  • Score: 15

6:42pm Sat 15 Feb 14

AFCB Badger says...

60's cherries fan wrote:
nonnogeppetto wrote:
pete woodley wrote:
Pitman booked within 2 minutes of coming on,and 4 fouls given away in 6 minutes at the end ?.
I think it is typical of Pitman he lets his frustration get the better of him. He resents not being picked and I believe he hates coming on for 10 or so minutes. It is him that needs to change because if he doesn't we will end up playing the remainder of the game with 10 men.

If the TV will show it?? The free-kick should have been a penalty I thought but I'll stand corrected if the TV camera proves me wrong.
All in all we played well and could have got the three points. I think that Rantie will be better suited with Yann along side him.
To be honest, every time Pitman is brought on t is like going down to ten men anyway, not sure what Eddie sees in him.
Arter was superb today, also Grabban, I felt, ran his socks off as usual
Yep I'm afraid Pitman is a bit out of his depth but he is a natural goal scorer and bringing him off the bench when we are behind is the only possible use for him.
[quote][p][bold]60's cherries fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: Pitman booked within 2 minutes of coming on,and 4 fouls given away in 6 minutes at the end ?.[/p][/quote]I think it is typical of Pitman he lets his frustration get the better of him. He resents not being picked and I believe he hates coming on for 10 or so minutes. It is him that needs to change because if he doesn't we will end up playing the remainder of the game with 10 men. If the TV will show it?? The free-kick should have been a penalty I thought but I'll stand corrected if the TV camera proves me wrong. All in all we played well and could have got the three points. I think that Rantie will be better suited with Yann along side him.[/p][/quote]To be honest, every time Pitman is brought on t is like going down to ten men anyway, not sure what Eddie sees in him. Arter was superb today, also Grabban, I felt, ran his socks off as usual[/p][/quote]Yep I'm afraid Pitman is a bit out of his depth but he is a natural goal scorer and bringing him off the bench when we are behind is the only possible use for him. AFCB Badger
  • Score: 6

6:48pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Afcbpete says...

AFCB Badger wrote:
Yes good performance and should have got all three points.good performances from all our defenders and thought Pugh and Rantie were excellent.No worries about relegation as we will beat the lower teams on this form and we can kick on next season. Rantie and Kermit is the partnership for me up front. Not sure if Ings touched the ball all afternoon
Couldn't agree more, Yann and TK would seem ideally suited. Pugh put in a great shift this afternoon. Delighted for Rantie, he has real quality, he will only get better and better, he looked more a part of the team today, instead of play passing him bye because no one would pass to him. Agreed his touch let him down at times, but the same could be said for many players out there today.... UTCIAD
[quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Yes good performance and should have got all three points.good performances from all our defenders and thought Pugh and Rantie were excellent.No worries about relegation as we will beat the lower teams on this form and we can kick on next season. Rantie and Kermit is the partnership for me up front. Not sure if Ings touched the ball all afternoon[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, Yann and TK would seem ideally suited. Pugh put in a great shift this afternoon. Delighted for Rantie, he has real quality, he will only get better and better, he looked more a part of the team today, instead of play passing him bye because no one would pass to him. Agreed his touch let him down at times, but the same could be said for many players out there today.... UTCIAD Afcbpete
  • Score: 11

6:48pm Sat 15 Feb 14

cherrygood says...

It's all about the learning curve this season. I was concerned that we may struggle against some of the bigger teams in the division but we haven't and at this point in the season I think we are capable of taking points from every team home and away.

And hopefully with some better weather in March and April it should suit the way we play much better.
It's all about the learning curve this season. I was concerned that we may struggle against some of the bigger teams in the division but we haven't and at this point in the season I think we are capable of taking points from every team home and away. And hopefully with some better weather in March and April it should suit the way we play much better. cherrygood
  • Score: 10

6:51pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Tom Griffiths of Bransgore says...

Excellent result against an in form, second in the table side. 15th in the table with 36 points with a team like Charlton in the relegation area with 24 points. Our team is improving all the time, with new players beginning to get to play to Eddie's style. We can now look forward to maintaining our status in the Championship, gaining valuable experience and togetherness, which will give confidence to the players and much pleasure to our supporters.
Sad day today for old timers like me, with the loss of a great player ,Sir Tom Finney. Those of us who saw him play will never forget the pleasure he gave us. A true Sportsman and a real Gentleman.













































ent result against
Excellent result against an in form, second in the table side. 15th in the table with 36 points with a team like Charlton in the relegation area with 24 points. Our team is improving all the time, with new players beginning to get to play to Eddie's style. We can now look forward to maintaining our status in the Championship, gaining valuable experience and togetherness, which will give confidence to the players and much pleasure to our supporters. Sad day today for old timers like me, with the loss of a great player ,Sir Tom Finney. Those of us who saw him play will never forget the pleasure he gave us. A true Sportsman and a real Gentleman. ent result against Tom Griffiths of Bransgore
  • Score: 5

6:53pm Sat 15 Feb 14

abc100 says...

60's cherries fan wrote:
nonnogeppetto wrote:
pete woodley wrote:
Pitman booked within 2 minutes of coming on,and 4 fouls given away in 6 minutes at the end ?.
I think it is typical of Pitman he lets his frustration get the better of him. He resents not being picked and I believe he hates coming on for 10 or so minutes. It is him that needs to change because if he doesn't we will end up playing the remainder of the game with 10 men.

If the TV will show it?? The free-kick should have been a penalty I thought but I'll stand corrected if the TV camera proves me wrong.
All in all we played well and could have got the three points. I think that Rantie will be better suited with Yann along side him.
To be honest, every time Pitman is brought on t is like going down to ten men anyway, not sure what Eddie sees in him.
Arter was superb today, also Grabban, I felt, ran his socks off as usual
I agree that Arter played well today, I have always been his biggest fan but I want Arter back to his old ways of moaning and whinging cos he is a much better player when he plays on the edge, I know he will get the odd suspension but his record is only one booking in every three games which ain't bad for a central midfielder
[quote][p][bold]60's cherries fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: Pitman booked within 2 minutes of coming on,and 4 fouls given away in 6 minutes at the end ?.[/p][/quote]I think it is typical of Pitman he lets his frustration get the better of him. He resents not being picked and I believe he hates coming on for 10 or so minutes. It is him that needs to change because if he doesn't we will end up playing the remainder of the game with 10 men. If the TV will show it?? The free-kick should have been a penalty I thought but I'll stand corrected if the TV camera proves me wrong. All in all we played well and could have got the three points. I think that Rantie will be better suited with Yann along side him.[/p][/quote]To be honest, every time Pitman is brought on t is like going down to ten men anyway, not sure what Eddie sees in him. Arter was superb today, also Grabban, I felt, ran his socks off as usual[/p][/quote]I agree that Arter played well today, I have always been his biggest fan but I want Arter back to his old ways of moaning and whinging cos he is a much better player when he plays on the edge, I know he will get the odd suspension but his record is only one booking in every three games which ain't bad for a central midfielder abc100
  • Score: -4

6:58pm Sat 15 Feb 14

canfordcherry says...

With regard to Pitman, any other player would have been cautioned. The ref was vey lenient with him as he knew he had cautioned him minutes earlier.
Their goal had more than a touch of luck with the slight deflection that looped it away from Camp.
2nd in the league? they didn't look it, especially when they had to resort to throwing themselves to the floor at the slightest touch near the end.
We weren't allowed to play our normal game due to he conditions, but this does prove we can mix it up when we have to.
If only Francis' thunder bolt had gone in!
With regard to Pitman, any other player would have been cautioned. The ref was vey lenient with him as he knew he had cautioned him minutes earlier. Their goal had more than a touch of luck with the slight deflection that looped it away from Camp. 2nd in the league? they didn't look it, especially when they had to resort to throwing themselves to the floor at the slightest touch near the end. We weren't allowed to play our normal game due to he conditions, but this does prove we can mix it up when we have to. If only Francis' thunder bolt had gone in! canfordcherry
  • Score: 12

7:20pm Sat 15 Feb 14

afcb-mark says...

Might be wrong but I thought their player hand balled it before he crossed for their goal. We played well especially considering the conditions and were unlucky not to win it. Well done Rantie. and the rest of the team.
Might be wrong but I thought their player hand balled it before he crossed for their goal. We played well especially considering the conditions and were unlucky not to win it. Well done Rantie. and the rest of the team. afcb-mark
  • Score: 9

7:36pm Sat 15 Feb 14

devon fan says...

well played to the team for taking one point, there is no doubt a few months ago we would have lost it, and thanks to Eddie Howe for at last ditching the negative one up front at home, if only we could start a game on the front foot instead of wasting 25 minutes or more with aimless play
well played to the team for taking one point, there is no doubt a few months ago we would have lost it, and thanks to Eddie Howe for at last ditching the negative one up front at home, if only we could start a game on the front foot instead of wasting 25 minutes or more with aimless play devon fan
  • Score: 0

7:37pm Sat 15 Feb 14

bobsworthforever says...

Afcbpete wrote:
AFCB Badger wrote:
Yes good performance and should have got all three points.good performances from all our defenders and thought Pugh and Rantie were excellent.No worries about relegation as we will beat the lower teams on this form and we can kick on next season. Rantie and Kermit is the partnership for me up front. Not sure if Ings touched the ball all afternoon
Couldn't agree more, Yann and TK would seem ideally suited. Pugh put in a great shift this afternoon. Delighted for Rantie, he has real quality, he will only get better and better, he looked more a part of the team today, instead of play passing him bye because no one would pass to him. Agreed his touch let him down at times, but the same could be said for many players out there today.... UTCIAD
Really Rantie and Kermogant up front what about Grabban then No like to see Grabban uo front with Kermogant leave Rantie on the bench not the best of games today but a good result Burnley lucky to get a point Not going to get automatic but we should be closer to the play offs the way were playing
[quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Yes good performance and should have got all three points.good performances from all our defenders and thought Pugh and Rantie were excellent.No worries about relegation as we will beat the lower teams on this form and we can kick on next season. Rantie and Kermit is the partnership for me up front. Not sure if Ings touched the ball all afternoon[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, Yann and TK would seem ideally suited. Pugh put in a great shift this afternoon. Delighted for Rantie, he has real quality, he will only get better and better, he looked more a part of the team today, instead of play passing him bye because no one would pass to him. Agreed his touch let him down at times, but the same could be said for many players out there today.... UTCIAD[/p][/quote]Really Rantie and Kermogant up front what about Grabban then No like to see Grabban uo front with Kermogant leave Rantie on the bench not the best of games today but a good result Burnley lucky to get a point Not going to get automatic but we should be closer to the play offs the way were playing bobsworthforever
  • Score: 0

7:46pm Sat 15 Feb 14

West moors 1 says...

Nat1234 wrote:
We was robbed again , rantie made me eat some humble pie today , but anyone who knows anything about our lovely game must of noticed what a better side we were , when yann came on . I thought. Our defence kept Ings and voles very quiete ,,
Yes you are right, Yann came on and we looked far more threatening. Rantie scored but even he didn't know quite how it happened! We looked pretty good today and McDonald did a job when he came on. So unlucky not to have had all 3 points today. There defence was strong bug we gave them problems to our credit. Up the cherries!
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: We was robbed again , rantie made me eat some humble pie today , but anyone who knows anything about our lovely game must of noticed what a better side we were , when yann came on . I thought. Our defence kept Ings and voles very quiete ,,[/p][/quote]Yes you are right, Yann came on and we looked far more threatening. Rantie scored but even he didn't know quite how it happened! We looked pretty good today and McDonald did a job when he came on. So unlucky not to have had all 3 points today. There defence was strong bug we gave them problems to our credit. Up the cherries! West moors 1
  • Score: 4

7:49pm Sat 15 Feb 14

TedMacsCherryPants says...

Good result and well played all! Should have been 3 points but we are showing that we can hold our own against all-comers.
Re- Brett: I think he is only guilty of trying too hard when he gets a short time on the pitch. He held the ball up and laid it off to someone (Ritchie I think) under a lot of pressure towards the end of the game that resulted in another good chance.
UTMC!!
Good result and well played all! Should have been 3 points but we are showing that we can hold our own against all-comers. Re- Brett: I think he is only guilty of trying too hard when he gets a short time on the pitch. He held the ball up and laid it off to someone (Ritchie I think) under a lot of pressure towards the end of the game that resulted in another good chance. UTMC!! TedMacsCherryPants
  • Score: 2

7:56pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Afcbpete says...

bobsworthforever wrote:
Afcbpete wrote:
AFCB Badger wrote:
Yes good performance and should have got all three points.good performances from all our defenders and thought Pugh and Rantie were excellent.No worries about relegation as we will beat the lower teams on this form and we can kick on next season. Rantie and Kermit is the partnership for me up front. Not sure if Ings touched the ball all afternoon
Couldn't agree more, Yann and TK would seem ideally suited. Pugh put in a great shift this afternoon. Delighted for Rantie, he has real quality, he will only get better and better, he looked more a part of the team today, instead of play passing him bye because no one would pass to him. Agreed his touch let him down at times, but the same could be said for many players out there today.... UTCIAD
Really Rantie and Kermogant up front what about Grabban then No like to see Grabban uo front with Kermogant leave Rantie on the bench not the best of games today but a good result Burnley lucky to get a point Not going to get automatic but we should be closer to the play offs the way were playing
Nope, Yann and Rantie for me!!
[quote][p][bold]bobsworthforever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Yes good performance and should have got all three points.good performances from all our defenders and thought Pugh and Rantie were excellent.No worries about relegation as we will beat the lower teams on this form and we can kick on next season. Rantie and Kermit is the partnership for me up front. Not sure if Ings touched the ball all afternoon[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, Yann and TK would seem ideally suited. Pugh put in a great shift this afternoon. Delighted for Rantie, he has real quality, he will only get better and better, he looked more a part of the team today, instead of play passing him bye because no one would pass to him. Agreed his touch let him down at times, but the same could be said for many players out there today.... UTCIAD[/p][/quote]Really Rantie and Kermogant up front what about Grabban then No like to see Grabban uo front with Kermogant leave Rantie on the bench not the best of games today but a good result Burnley lucky to get a point Not going to get automatic but we should be closer to the play offs the way were playing[/p][/quote]Nope, Yann and Rantie for me!! Afcbpete
  • Score: 6

8:59pm Sat 15 Feb 14

raybren says...

Deserved to win today and would have if only ........ we could find a red shirt when we reach the bye line . Surely improving our crossing must be a MUST for training . Or is it just me ?
Deserved to win today and would have if only ........ we could find a red shirt when we reach the bye line . Surely improving our crossing must be a MUST for training . Or is it just me ? raybren
  • Score: 4

9:06pm Sat 15 Feb 14

nonnogeppetto says...

Tom Griffiths of Bransgore wrote:
Excellent result against an in form, second in the table side. 15th in the table with 36 points with a team like Charlton in the relegation area with 24 points. Our team is improving all the time, with new players beginning to get to play to Eddie's style. We can now look forward to maintaining our status in the Championship, gaining valuable experience and togetherness, which will give confidence to the players and much pleasure to our supporters.
Sad day today for old timers like me, with the loss of a great player ,Sir Tom Finney. Those of us who saw him play will never forget the pleasure he gave us. A true Sportsman and a real Gentleman.













































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Good to have you back on here Tom it was a good game to watch today and good that Rantie scored, hopefully there is lot more to come from him.

Although I never saw Sir Tom Finney play I do know that he gave a great deal of pleasure to so many in his hay days. I am sure that he will be remembered by many in this country and beyond. Can you imagine a football team in Heaven made up of the all time greats!!! managed by Brian Clough!!! it is worth securing a place up there just to go and watch them!!! Up the mighty Cherries

Kind regards
[quote][p][bold]Tom Griffiths of Bransgore[/bold] wrote: Excellent result against an in form, second in the table side. 15th in the table with 36 points with a team like Charlton in the relegation area with 24 points. Our team is improving all the time, with new players beginning to get to play to Eddie's style. We can now look forward to maintaining our status in the Championship, gaining valuable experience and togetherness, which will give confidence to the players and much pleasure to our supporters. Sad day today for old timers like me, with the loss of a great player ,Sir Tom Finney. Those of us who saw him play will never forget the pleasure he gave us. A true Sportsman and a real Gentleman. ent result against[/p][/quote]Good to have you back on here Tom it was a good game to watch today and good that Rantie scored, hopefully there is lot more to come from him. Although I never saw Sir Tom Finney play I do know that he gave a great deal of pleasure to so many in his hay days. I am sure that he will be remembered by many in this country and beyond. Can you imagine a football team in Heaven made up of the all time greats!!! managed by Brian Clough!!! it is worth securing a place up there just to go and watch them!!! Up the mighty Cherries Kind regards nonnogeppetto
  • Score: 3

9:21pm Sat 15 Feb 14

nonnogeppetto says...

raybren wrote:
Deserved to win today and would have if only ........ we could find a red shirt when we reach the bye line . Surely improving our crossing must be a MUST for training . Or is it just me ?
whether from corners or general play the number of times the ball goes way past everyone ending up as a throw in to the opposition beats me!! why is it so difficult to get the ball where our players are!!! wasted free-kicks when we don't even go near the target is something else to work on! Hopefully with the weather improving the squad can have more practice and build on who goes with who up front.

Despite all that we have to say that we are doing better than any of us hoped for back in August.
[quote][p][bold]raybren[/bold] wrote: Deserved to win today and would have if only ........ we could find a red shirt when we reach the bye line . Surely improving our crossing must be a MUST for training . Or is it just me ?[/p][/quote]whether from corners or general play the number of times the ball goes way past everyone ending up as a throw in to the opposition beats me!! why is it so difficult to get the ball where our players are!!! wasted free-kicks when we don't even go near the target is something else to work on! Hopefully with the weather improving the squad can have more practice and build on who goes with who up front. Despite all that we have to say that we are doing better than any of us hoped for back in August. nonnogeppetto
  • Score: 3

10:24pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Afcbives says...

I would play 4 4 2 camp Francis Cook elphick Harte grabban arter o Kane Ritchie kermorgant rantie
I would play 4 4 2 camp Francis Cook elphick Harte grabban arter o Kane Ritchie kermorgant rantie Afcbives
  • Score: 0

10:47pm Sat 15 Feb 14

canfordcherry says...

Did anyone hear Willo's comment on Solent about the amount of opposing pundits for local radio he talks to after commentating on away games that say we play the best football out of everyone in the league. It's great the club gets this recognition from ex-pro's and testament to the EH philosophy on football.
Safety this season, build next season and challenge for the top in 2015/16.
That could be the prem by 2016/17!(If the luck goes our way)
Did anyone hear Willo's comment on Solent about the amount of opposing pundits for local radio he talks to after commentating on away games that say we play the best football out of everyone in the league. It's great the club gets this recognition from ex-pro's and testament to the EH philosophy on football. Safety this season, build next season and challenge for the top in 2015/16. That could be the prem by 2016/17!(If the luck goes our way) canfordcherry
  • Score: 10

10:53pm Sat 15 Feb 14

eaststandman says...

I thought it was a fine team performance overall today.

Though I have to add that why,oh, why, when we have one of the best dead ball strikers in English football in our team - was Ian Harte not allowed to take either of the free kicks ?

When you have Harte on the pitch, someone tell Arter to get lost and stop glory hunting and let a better player strike it. He played champions league and premiership and his gesture towards the bench, after the ball was put row Z , said it all.

You must take your chances at this level or get punished. Saying that, am looking forward to my trip to Derby next week. We're a match for anyone.
I thought it was a fine team performance overall today. Though I have to add that why,oh, why, when we have one of the best dead ball strikers in English football in our team - was Ian Harte not allowed to take either of the free kicks ? When you have Harte on the pitch, someone tell Arter to get lost and stop glory hunting and let a better player strike it. He played champions league and premiership and his gesture towards the bench, after the ball was put row Z , said it all. You must take your chances at this level or get punished. Saying that, am looking forward to my trip to Derby next week. We're a match for anyone. eaststandman
  • Score: 5

11:51pm Sat 15 Feb 14

dekayedcherry says...

Well I got the pitch inspection totally wrong thinking the match would be postponed due to the pictures of the pitch shown on TV, but I was delighted the game was played. We were clearly the better side and deserved to win but lady luck sadly is not smiling on us and again Burnley got the rub of the green with another lucky deflection which went to their player to score.
We need to get more ricochet's ourselves in the box either from hard low crosses or shots from midfield 4 into a crowded box and then may be our strikers can get some lucky tap ins.
Their goalie was by far the busier and made some good saves to keep them in the game. Rantie had a good game as did Grabban but neither had too many clear chances and Kermorgant gave us a different dimension and picked up the pace when we were beginning to be a bit predictable.
I would pair Kermorgant with Rantie and Grabban with Pitman ( it worked last season !!) if playing 442 or Grabban on his own if 451.
Another point towards staying in this league and again no team below us made up ground on us either losing or drawing. Looking good Eddie,looking good. UTC.
Well I got the pitch inspection totally wrong thinking the match would be postponed due to the pictures of the pitch shown on TV, but I was delighted the game was played. We were clearly the better side and deserved to win but lady luck sadly is not smiling on us and again Burnley got the rub of the green with another lucky deflection which went to their player to score. We need to get more ricochet's ourselves in the box either from hard low crosses or shots from midfield 4 into a crowded box and then may be our strikers can get some lucky tap ins. Their goalie was by far the busier and made some good saves to keep them in the game. Rantie had a good game as did Grabban but neither had too many clear chances and Kermorgant gave us a different dimension and picked up the pace when we were beginning to be a bit predictable. I would pair Kermorgant with Rantie and Grabban with Pitman ( it worked last season !!) if playing 442 or Grabban on his own if 451. Another point towards staying in this league and again no team below us made up ground on us either losing or drawing. Looking good Eddie,looking good. UTC. dekayedcherry
  • Score: 3

4:45am Sun 16 Feb 14

ASM says...

Great performance and result against a quality team. We have 3 very good strikers in Yann, TK and Grabban. Burnley are a very good footballing team, like us.
I think Pitman is lethal in league 1, but is not a team player (compare his work-rate to grabban), today reminded me of blyth spartans where he came on and got sent off after a couple of minutes. We still have to remember without his contributions last season we might not have even made the play offs. He was prolific and I think a loan spell to a league 1 club will do him good
I am delighted for TK and fingers crossed O'kane won't be sidelined with this injury
Great performance and result against a quality team. We have 3 very good strikers in Yann, TK and Grabban. Burnley are a very good footballing team, like us. I think Pitman is lethal in league 1, but is not a team player (compare his work-rate to grabban), today reminded me of blyth spartans where he came on and got sent off after a couple of minutes. We still have to remember without his contributions last season we might not have even made the play offs. He was prolific and I think a loan spell to a league 1 club will do him good I am delighted for TK and fingers crossed O'kane won't be sidelined with this injury ASM
  • Score: 1

7:16am Sun 16 Feb 14

Nat1234 says...

bobsworthforever wrote:
Afcbpete wrote:
AFCB Badger wrote:
Yes good performance and should have got all three points.good performances from all our defenders and thought Pugh and Rantie were excellent.No worries about relegation as we will beat the lower teams on this form and we can kick on next season. Rantie and Kermit is the partnership for me up front. Not sure if Ings touched the ball all afternoon
Couldn't agree more, Yann and TK would seem ideally suited. Pugh put in a great shift this afternoon. Delighted for Rantie, he has real quality, he will only get better and better, he looked more a part of the team today, instead of play passing him bye because no one would pass to him. Agreed his touch let him down at times, but the same could be said for many players out there today.... UTCIAD
Really Rantie and Kermogant up front what about Grabban then No like to see Grabban uo front with Kermogant leave Rantie on the bench not the best of games today but a good result Burnley lucky to get a point Not going to get automatic but we should be closer to the play offs the way were playing
Agree , we can't leave grabbs on the bench , grabbs and yann , it has to be those two . I don't know if anyone noticed , the team seemed to try a lot harder when yann came on , especially grabban ,
[quote][p][bold]bobsworthforever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Yes good performance and should have got all three points.good performances from all our defenders and thought Pugh and Rantie were excellent.No worries about relegation as we will beat the lower teams on this form and we can kick on next season. Rantie and Kermit is the partnership for me up front. Not sure if Ings touched the ball all afternoon[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, Yann and TK would seem ideally suited. Pugh put in a great shift this afternoon. Delighted for Rantie, he has real quality, he will only get better and better, he looked more a part of the team today, instead of play passing him bye because no one would pass to him. Agreed his touch let him down at times, but the same could be said for many players out there today.... UTCIAD[/p][/quote]Really Rantie and Kermogant up front what about Grabban then No like to see Grabban uo front with Kermogant leave Rantie on the bench not the best of games today but a good result Burnley lucky to get a point Not going to get automatic but we should be closer to the play offs the way were playing[/p][/quote]Agree , we can't leave grabbs on the bench , grabbs and yann , it has to be those two . I don't know if anyone noticed , the team seemed to try a lot harder when yann came on , especially grabban , Nat1234
  • Score: -6

8:54am Sun 16 Feb 14

Nat1234 says...

eaststandman wrote:
I thought it was a fine team performance overall today.

Though I have to add that why,oh, why, when we have one of the best dead ball strikers in English football in our team - was Ian Harte not allowed to take either of the free kicks ?

When you have Harte on the pitch, someone tell Arter to get lost and stop glory hunting and let a better player strike it. He played champions league and premiership and his gesture towards the bench, after the ball was put row Z , said it all.

You must take your chances at this level or get punished. Saying that, am looking forward to my trip to Derby next week. We're a match for anyone.
Also yann is very good at taking free kicks , but I must agree Harte is by far the best in the squad at free kicks ,my man of the match yesterday was arter he always gives it all ...
[quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: I thought it was a fine team performance overall today. Though I have to add that why,oh, why, when we have one of the best dead ball strikers in English football in our team - was Ian Harte not allowed to take either of the free kicks ? When you have Harte on the pitch, someone tell Arter to get lost and stop glory hunting and let a better player strike it. He played champions league and premiership and his gesture towards the bench, after the ball was put row Z , said it all. You must take your chances at this level or get punished. Saying that, am looking forward to my trip to Derby next week. We're a match for anyone.[/p][/quote]Also yann is very good at taking free kicks , but I must agree Harte is by far the best in the squad at free kicks ,my man of the match yesterday was arter he always gives it all ... Nat1234
  • Score: 0

9:47am Sun 16 Feb 14

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road says...

Thoroughly entertaining game yesterday, even if we do feel rather hard done by. The stats dont lie, Burnley had one shot on target in the entire match. Interestingly, some Burnley fans felt our main objective was to nullify Vokes & Ings, a rather short sighted view, since we attacked at will and terrorised their back four. Highlight for me was TK leaving that big lump Duff(4) on his backside twice in 2 mins.
Unfortunately our achillies heel reared it's head again and we failed to capitalise on our superb approach play through some baddecisio making and it must be said some outstanding keeping from Heaton. Burnley most definately played their GET OUT OF JAIL FREE card and will be mightely relieved to leave with a point. Credit to Burnley supporters for travelling in big numbers for such a long trip in the poor conditions.. We have proved that we can compete with most teams in this league when we play well so onwards and upwards.
Thoroughly entertaining game yesterday, even if we do feel rather hard done by. The stats dont lie, Burnley had one shot on target in the entire match. Interestingly, some Burnley fans felt our main objective was to nullify Vokes & Ings, a rather short sighted view, since we attacked at will and terrorised their back four. Highlight for me was TK leaving that big lump Duff(4) on his backside twice in 2 mins. Unfortunately our achillies heel reared it's head again and we failed to capitalise on our superb approach play through some baddecisio making and it must be said some outstanding keeping from Heaton. Burnley most definately played their GET OUT OF JAIL FREE card and will be mightely relieved to leave with a point. Credit to Burnley supporters for travelling in big numbers for such a long trip in the poor conditions.. We have proved that we can compete with most teams in this league when we play well so onwards and upwards. STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
  • Score: 6

11:06am Sun 16 Feb 14

swanagecherrie says...

I had to laugh at SD moaning about the pitch on the football league show Burnley never used the pitch, lump it to Vokes tactics that didn't work. We out played them and Eddie tactically out thought Sean Dyche. Only three losses since the 14th of December to Leicester top of the league, Liverpool top 4 prem, Wigan prem last year and some ppl still think we will be in a relegation fight not a chance of that. Eddie and Max are building something special lots of out of contract players to go in the summer. We are building a good football side and the blocks are getting stronger.
I had to laugh at SD moaning about the pitch on the football league show Burnley never used the pitch, lump it to Vokes tactics that didn't work. We out played them and Eddie tactically out thought Sean Dyche. Only three losses since the 14th of December to Leicester top of the league, Liverpool top 4 prem, Wigan prem last year and some ppl still think we will be in a relegation fight not a chance of that. Eddie and Max are building something special lots of out of contract players to go in the summer. We are building a good football side and the blocks are getting stronger. swanagecherrie
  • Score: 8

11:08am Sun 16 Feb 14

Square Old Codger says...

You must congratulate Eddie on his "Game Plan" and the players who implemented it so well, the most lethal pair of strikers in the Country didn't get a single shot at goal. Well done too the lads that came in for the injured players. The conditions were dreadful, a bumpy pitch and a high wind, Burnley adapted to it by playing a long ball, physical game, my one citicism of our game, the persistant long high balls down the centre to Rantie, meat and drink to the big Burnley central defenders. Over the top to give him the chance to use his speed or through balls are needed to make best use of his talents. But an interesting and hard fought game and a point towards safety. Another tough fixture next week at Derby, let's hope O'Kane's injury is a monor one..
You must congratulate Eddie on his "Game Plan" and the players who implemented it so well, the most lethal pair of strikers in the Country didn't get a single shot at goal. Well done too the lads that came in for the injured players. The conditions were dreadful, a bumpy pitch and a high wind, Burnley adapted to it by playing a long ball, physical game, my one citicism of our game, the persistant long high balls down the centre to Rantie, meat and drink to the big Burnley central defenders. Over the top to give him the chance to use his speed or through balls are needed to make best use of his talents. But an interesting and hard fought game and a point towards safety. Another tough fixture next week at Derby, let's hope O'Kane's injury is a monor one.. Square Old Codger
  • Score: 1

11:52am Sun 16 Feb 14

Afcbpete says...

Square Old Codger wrote:
You must congratulate Eddie on his "Game Plan" and the players who implemented it so well, the most lethal pair of strikers in the Country didn't get a single shot at goal. Well done too the lads that came in for the injured players. The conditions were dreadful, a bumpy pitch and a high wind, Burnley adapted to it by playing a long ball, physical game, my one citicism of our game, the persistant long high balls down the centre to Rantie, meat and drink to the big Burnley central defenders. Over the top to give him the chance to use his speed or through balls are needed to make best use of his talents. But an interesting and hard fought game and a point towards safety. Another tough fixture next week at Derby, let's hope O'Kane's injury is a monor one..
Can't disagree with any of that SOC.... The team are at long last bringing TK into the game more, which is a positive. Still not the right balls for him as you say, but with Yann alongside him, I feel sure we'll see a big difference. TK does at least have the foresight to bring others into play, even if they can't quite do it for him as yet!!
[quote][p][bold]Square Old Codger[/bold] wrote: You must congratulate Eddie on his "Game Plan" and the players who implemented it so well, the most lethal pair of strikers in the Country didn't get a single shot at goal. Well done too the lads that came in for the injured players. The conditions were dreadful, a bumpy pitch and a high wind, Burnley adapted to it by playing a long ball, physical game, my one citicism of our game, the persistant long high balls down the centre to Rantie, meat and drink to the big Burnley central defenders. Over the top to give him the chance to use his speed or through balls are needed to make best use of his talents. But an interesting and hard fought game and a point towards safety. Another tough fixture next week at Derby, let's hope O'Kane's injury is a monor one..[/p][/quote]Can't disagree with any of that SOC.... The team are at long last bringing TK into the game more, which is a positive. Still not the right balls for him as you say, but with Yann alongside him, I feel sure we'll see a big difference. TK does at least have the foresight to bring others into play, even if they can't quite do it for him as yet!! Afcbpete
  • Score: 3

11:55am Sun 16 Feb 14

cheeriedriteup says...

It looks as if I will be getting the the thumbs down on this, I though Arter had he worse game of the season so far, and was extremely lucky to stay on the pitch after the two footed tackle in front of the dugout, two many passes went astray, poor touches, incorrect weight on the passes, more than happy to forgive though as he is a very good committed player, but not MOTM for me, Rantie didn't deserve the other MOTM either, he needs to bulk up and stay on his feet to become a better player . In my opinion the MOTM should have been along the defence line !
It looks as if I will be getting the the thumbs down on this, I though Arter had he worse game of the season so far, and was extremely lucky to stay on the pitch after the two footed tackle in front of the dugout, two many passes went astray, poor touches, incorrect weight on the passes, more than happy to forgive though as he is a very good committed player, but not MOTM for me, Rantie didn't deserve the other MOTM either, he needs to bulk up and stay on his feet to become a better player . In my opinion the MOTM should have been along the defence line ! cheeriedriteup
  • Score: 4

12:11pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Afcbpete says...

cheeriedriteup wrote:
It looks as if I will be getting the the thumbs down on this, I though Arter had he worse game of the season so far, and was extremely lucky to stay on the pitch after the two footed tackle in front of the dugout, two many passes went astray, poor touches, incorrect weight on the passes, more than happy to forgive though as he is a very good committed player, but not MOTM for me, Rantie didn't deserve the other MOTM either, he needs to bulk up and stay on his feet to become a better player . In my opinion the MOTM should have been along the defence line !
I haven't given you the thumbs down, after all, you gave me a good laugh!!! But certainly agree that the defence were outstanding, Ings and Vokes never had a sniff of goal.....
[quote][p][bold]cheeriedriteup[/bold] wrote: It looks as if I will be getting the the thumbs down on this, I though Arter had he worse game of the season so far, and was extremely lucky to stay on the pitch after the two footed tackle in front of the dugout, two many passes went astray, poor touches, incorrect weight on the passes, more than happy to forgive though as he is a very good committed player, but not MOTM for me, Rantie didn't deserve the other MOTM either, he needs to bulk up and stay on his feet to become a better player . In my opinion the MOTM should have been along the defence line ![/p][/quote]I haven't given you the thumbs down, after all, you gave me a good laugh!!! But certainly agree that the defence were outstanding, Ings and Vokes never had a sniff of goal..... Afcbpete
  • Score: 2

12:27pm Sun 16 Feb 14

afcbtintin says...

cheeriedriteup wrote:
It looks as if I will be getting the the thumbs down on this, I though Arter had he worse game of the season so far, and was extremely lucky to stay on the pitch after the two footed tackle in front of the dugout, two many passes went astray, poor touches, incorrect weight on the passes, more than happy to forgive though as he is a very good committed player, but not MOTM for me, Rantie didn't deserve the other MOTM either, he needs to bulk up and stay on his feet to become a better player . In my opinion the MOTM should have been along the defence line !
Agreed regarding MOTM, I fully expected to hear Francis awarded them both.

I've just watched the youtube highlights that the club put up via Facebook. Unlike the Football League show, they include the "back pass" that wasn't. Even more so now I cannot understand why the ref didn't give it. Perhaps like a lot of other refs appear to be, he was frightened to be controversial !

I guess that incident wasn't shown on the BBC last night was because Dyche was the guest in the studio !
[quote][p][bold]cheeriedriteup[/bold] wrote: It looks as if I will be getting the the thumbs down on this, I though Arter had he worse game of the season so far, and was extremely lucky to stay on the pitch after the two footed tackle in front of the dugout, two many passes went astray, poor touches, incorrect weight on the passes, more than happy to forgive though as he is a very good committed player, but not MOTM for me, Rantie didn't deserve the other MOTM either, he needs to bulk up and stay on his feet to become a better player . In my opinion the MOTM should have been along the defence line ![/p][/quote]Agreed regarding MOTM, I fully expected to hear Francis awarded them both. I've just watched the youtube highlights that the club put up via Facebook. Unlike the Football League show, they include the "back pass" that wasn't. Even more so now I cannot understand why the ref didn't give it. Perhaps like a lot of other refs appear to be, he was frightened to be controversial ! I guess that incident wasn't shown on the BBC last night was because Dyche was the guest in the studio ! afcbtintin
  • Score: 4

1:46pm Sun 16 Feb 14

AFCB Badger says...

Afcbpete wrote:
bobsworthforever wrote:
Afcbpete wrote:
AFCB Badger wrote:
Yes good performance and should have got all three points.good performances from all our defenders and thought Pugh and Rantie were excellent.No worries about relegation as we will beat the lower teams on this form and we can kick on next season. Rantie and Kermit is the partnership for me up front. Not sure if Ings touched the ball all afternoon
Couldn't agree more, Yann and TK would seem ideally suited. Pugh put in a great shift this afternoon. Delighted for Rantie, he has real quality, he will only get better and better, he looked more a part of the team today, instead of play passing him bye because no one would pass to him. Agreed his touch let him down at times, but the same could be said for many players out there today.... UTCIAD
Really Rantie and Kermogant up front what about Grabban then No like to see Grabban uo front with Kermogant leave Rantie on the bench not the best of games today but a good result Burnley lucky to get a point Not going to get automatic but we should be closer to the play offs the way were playing
Nope, Yann and Rantie for me!!
Right let's try and sort out the front line then.what do we know about our strikers. Grabban has been fantastic on his own up front working his socks off,running the channels,holding the ball up and enabling us to have a five man midfield which has helped us to stop the better teams. When he has gone up front with a partner he has looked less effective. Rantie is the one with unfulfilled potential,we have seen glimpses of his pace and trickery and we know he can score goals because we have seen it on you tube.he has been running around like a little boy lost but we think with the right service he can cause huge problems and we think he will start scoring regularly. Kermogant is a big lad who works hard and puts it about and has strength and presence.Pitman has looked slow and ineffective when he comes on but we know he can score from scraps and takes a good penalty. So my answer is that if we are going to play one up front then Grabban should start eg against better sides and we use rantie and Kermogant as subs depending on wether we think pace in behind or aerial crosses will work. However if we go two up front then I think that Rantie and kermogant could work well if they can develop an understanding simply because a small nippy guy in behind a tall centre forward is a proven combination. I am not saying drop grabban perhaps he could play wide but I am sure the players will need to be rested and rotated anyway. As for Pitman keep him on the bench and if we are chasing the game and go three up front then on he comes.
[quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobsworthforever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AFCB Badger[/bold] wrote: Yes good performance and should have got all three points.good performances from all our defenders and thought Pugh and Rantie were excellent.No worries about relegation as we will beat the lower teams on this form and we can kick on next season. Rantie and Kermit is the partnership for me up front. Not sure if Ings touched the ball all afternoon[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, Yann and TK would seem ideally suited. Pugh put in a great shift this afternoon. Delighted for Rantie, he has real quality, he will only get better and better, he looked more a part of the team today, instead of play passing him bye because no one would pass to him. Agreed his touch let him down at times, but the same could be said for many players out there today.... UTCIAD[/p][/quote]Really Rantie and Kermogant up front what about Grabban then No like to see Grabban uo front with Kermogant leave Rantie on the bench not the best of games today but a good result Burnley lucky to get a point Not going to get automatic but we should be closer to the play offs the way were playing[/p][/quote]Nope, Yann and Rantie for me!![/p][/quote]Right let's try and sort out the front line then.what do we know about our strikers. Grabban has been fantastic on his own up front working his socks off,running the channels,holding the ball up and enabling us to have a five man midfield which has helped us to stop the better teams. When he has gone up front with a partner he has looked less effective. Rantie is the one with unfulfilled potential,we have seen glimpses of his pace and trickery and we know he can score goals because we have seen it on you tube.he has been running around like a little boy lost but we think with the right service he can cause huge problems and we think he will start scoring regularly. Kermogant is a big lad who works hard and puts it about and has strength and presence.Pitman has looked slow and ineffective when he comes on but we know he can score from scraps and takes a good penalty. So my answer is that if we are going to play one up front then Grabban should start eg against better sides and we use rantie and Kermogant as subs depending on wether we think pace in behind or aerial crosses will work. However if we go two up front then I think that Rantie and kermogant could work well if they can develop an understanding simply because a small nippy guy in behind a tall centre forward is a proven combination. I am not saying drop grabban perhaps he could play wide but I am sure the players will need to be rested and rotated anyway. As for Pitman keep him on the bench and if we are chasing the game and go three up front then on he comes. AFCB Badger
  • Score: 7

2:22pm Sun 16 Feb 14

bobsworthforever says...

eaststandman wrote:
I thought it was a fine team performance overall today.

Though I have to add that why,oh, why, when we have one of the best dead ball strikers in English football in our team - was Ian Harte not allowed to take either of the free kicks ?

When you have Harte on the pitch, someone tell Arter to get lost and stop glory hunting and let a better player strike it. He played champions league and premiership and his gesture towards the bench, after the ball was put row Z , said it all.

You must take your chances at this level or get punished. Saying that, am looking forward to my trip to Derby next week. We're a match for anyone.
Totally agree Hartes the best striker of a dead ball we have amazed Arter took that free kick in the first half even better at corners weve scored three goals since Harte has taken them .As for Derby next week think we will beat them as someone said earlier we will need to score first and not concede brilliant.
[quote][p][bold]eaststandman[/bold] wrote: I thought it was a fine team performance overall today. Though I have to add that why,oh, why, when we have one of the best dead ball strikers in English football in our team - was Ian Harte not allowed to take either of the free kicks ? When you have Harte on the pitch, someone tell Arter to get lost and stop glory hunting and let a better player strike it. He played champions league and premiership and his gesture towards the bench, after the ball was put row Z , said it all. You must take your chances at this level or get punished. Saying that, am looking forward to my trip to Derby next week. We're a match for anyone.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Hartes the best striker of a dead ball we have amazed Arter took that free kick in the first half even better at corners weve scored three goals since Harte has taken them .As for Derby next week think we will beat them as someone said earlier we will need to score first and not concede brilliant. bobsworthforever
  • Score: 2

3:10pm Sun 16 Feb 14

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road says...

afcbtintin wrote:
cheeriedriteup wrote:
It looks as if I will be getting the the thumbs down on this, I though Arter had he worse game of the season so far, and was extremely lucky to stay on the pitch after the two footed tackle in front of the dugout, two many passes went astray, poor touches, incorrect weight on the passes, more than happy to forgive though as he is a very good committed player, but not MOTM for me, Rantie didn't deserve the other MOTM either, he needs to bulk up and stay on his feet to become a better player . In my opinion the MOTM should have been along the defence line !
Agreed regarding MOTM, I fully expected to hear Francis awarded them both.

I've just watched the youtube highlights that the club put up via Facebook. Unlike the Football League show, they include the "back pass" that wasn't. Even more so now I cannot understand why the ref didn't give it. Perhaps like a lot of other refs appear to be, he was frightened to be controversial !

I guess that incident wasn't shown on the BBC last night was because Dyche was the guest in the studio !
Also failed to show the free kick awarded on the edge of the box that according to sky pundits was actually indeed inside the area so should have been a pen. The back-pass incident was definately intended, the defender was looking at his keeper and cushioned the ball back to him.
I dont like to criticise the officials but sometimes they really can change games with some truly bizzarre decisions. Tommy deserved motm, also i was impressed with Harte.!!!
[quote][p][bold]afcbtintin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cheeriedriteup[/bold] wrote: It looks as if I will be getting the the thumbs down on this, I though Arter had he worse game of the season so far, and was extremely lucky to stay on the pitch after the two footed tackle in front of the dugout, two many passes went astray, poor touches, incorrect weight on the passes, more than happy to forgive though as he is a very good committed player, but not MOTM for me, Rantie didn't deserve the other MOTM either, he needs to bulk up and stay on his feet to become a better player . In my opinion the MOTM should have been along the defence line ![/p][/quote]Agreed regarding MOTM, I fully expected to hear Francis awarded them both. I've just watched the youtube highlights that the club put up via Facebook. Unlike the Football League show, they include the "back pass" that wasn't. Even more so now I cannot understand why the ref didn't give it. Perhaps like a lot of other refs appear to be, he was frightened to be controversial ! I guess that incident wasn't shown on the BBC last night was because Dyche was the guest in the studio ![/p][/quote]Also failed to show the free kick awarded on the edge of the box that according to sky pundits was actually indeed inside the area so should have been a pen. The back-pass incident was definately intended, the defender was looking at his keeper and cushioned the ball back to him. I dont like to criticise the officials but sometimes they really can change games with some truly bizzarre decisions. Tommy deserved motm, also i was impressed with Harte.!!! STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
  • Score: 5

3:42pm Sun 16 Feb 14

jontee says...

After Rantie score against Huddersfield I said 1 swallow doesn' make a summer. Well neither does 2. A couple of friends behind the goal said he didn't know much about the header.
.
Anyway glad to see he's been picked for SA. How many games will he miss ?
Of course he might get injured...could we get that lucky !
After Rantie score against Huddersfield I said 1 swallow doesn' make a summer. Well neither does 2. A couple of friends behind the goal said he didn't know much about the header. . Anyway glad to see he's been picked for SA. How many games will he miss ? Of course he might get injured...could we get that lucky ! jontee
  • Score: -23

4:00pm Sun 16 Feb 14

cheeriedriteup says...

jontee wrote:
After Rantie score against Huddersfield I said 1 swallow doesn' make a summer. Well neither does 2. A couple of friends behind the goal said he didn't know much about the header.
.
Anyway glad to see he's been picked for SA. How many games will he miss ?
Of course he might get injured...could we get that lucky !
I don't think he knew much about the goal, after all he was the smallest player in a packed box and never even jumped
[quote][p][bold]jontee[/bold] wrote: After Rantie score against Huddersfield I said 1 swallow doesn' make a summer. Well neither does 2. A couple of friends behind the goal said he didn't know much about the header. . Anyway glad to see he's been picked for SA. How many games will he miss ? Of course he might get injured...could we get that lucky ![/p][/quote]I don't think he knew much about the goal, after all he was the smallest player in a packed box and never even jumped cheeriedriteup
  • Score: -11

4:49pm Sun 16 Feb 14

cromwell9 says...

15 POINTS to get.
No bother
15 POINTS to get. No bother cromwell9
  • Score: 4

5:03pm Sun 16 Feb 14

North stand badger says...

cheeriedriteup wrote:
jontee wrote:
After Rantie score against Huddersfield I said 1 swallow doesn' make a summer. Well neither does 2. A couple of friends behind the goal said he didn't know much about the header.
.
Anyway glad to see he's been picked for SA. How many games will he miss ?
Of course he might get injured...could we get that lucky !
I don't think he knew much about the goal, after all he was the smallest player in a packed box and never even jumped
If you really believe that then you are either stupid or have an irrational dislike of Rantie and are now trying to put him down even when he scores for us
[quote][p][bold]cheeriedriteup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jontee[/bold] wrote: After Rantie score against Huddersfield I said 1 swallow doesn' make a summer. Well neither does 2. A couple of friends behind the goal said he didn't know much about the header. . Anyway glad to see he's been picked for SA. How many games will he miss ? Of course he might get injured...could we get that lucky ![/p][/quote]I don't think he knew much about the goal, after all he was the smallest player in a packed box and never even jumped[/p][/quote]If you really believe that then you are either stupid or have an irrational dislike of Rantie and are now trying to put him down even when he scores for us North stand badger
  • Score: 13

5:26pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Court Side says...

jontee wrote:
After Rantie score against Huddersfield I said 1 swallow doesn' make a summer. Well neither does 2. A couple of friends behind the goal said he didn't know much about the header.
.
Anyway glad to see he's been picked for SA. How many games will he miss ?
Of course he might get injured...could we get that lucky !
I'm sure you've said in the past that your a faithful supporter of many years and yet you come out with such childish comments. Hoping one of our players gets injured? Pathetic. And by the way, oh faithful supporter of many years, if you'd been at the game as i was yesterday you wouldn't be relying on misinformation because from where i was sitting he very much meant to flick it in. You can even watch it on the tv and see for yourself!
[quote][p][bold]jontee[/bold] wrote: After Rantie score against Huddersfield I said 1 swallow doesn' make a summer. Well neither does 2. A couple of friends behind the goal said he didn't know much about the header. . Anyway glad to see he's been picked for SA. How many games will he miss ? Of course he might get injured...could we get that lucky ![/p][/quote]I'm sure you've said in the past that your a faithful supporter of many years and yet you come out with such childish comments. Hoping one of our players gets injured? Pathetic. And by the way, oh faithful supporter of many years, if you'd been at the game as i was yesterday you wouldn't be relying on misinformation because from where i was sitting he very much meant to flick it in. You can even watch it on the tv and see for yourself! Court Side
  • Score: 15

6:55pm Sun 16 Feb 14

N Smith says...

Afcbpete wrote:
Square Old Codger wrote:
You must congratulate Eddie on his "Game Plan" and the players who implemented it so well, the most lethal pair of strikers in the Country didn't get a single shot at goal. Well done too the lads that came in for the injured players. The conditions were dreadful, a bumpy pitch and a high wind, Burnley adapted to it by playing a long ball, physical game, my one citicism of our game, the persistant long high balls down the centre to Rantie, meat and drink to the big Burnley central defenders. Over the top to give him the chance to use his speed or through balls are needed to make best use of his talents. But an interesting and hard fought game and a point towards safety. Another tough fixture next week at Derby, let's hope O'Kane's injury is a monor one..
Can't disagree with any of that SOC.... The team are at long last bringing TK into the game more, which is a positive. Still not the right balls for him as you say, but with Yann alongside him, I feel sure we'll see a big difference. TK does at least have the foresight to bring others into play, even if they can't quite do it for him as yet!!
Are you in love with Rantie??????
[quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Square Old Codger[/bold] wrote: You must congratulate Eddie on his "Game Plan" and the players who implemented it so well, the most lethal pair of strikers in the Country didn't get a single shot at goal. Well done too the lads that came in for the injured players. The conditions were dreadful, a bumpy pitch and a high wind, Burnley adapted to it by playing a long ball, physical game, my one citicism of our game, the persistant long high balls down the centre to Rantie, meat and drink to the big Burnley central defenders. Over the top to give him the chance to use his speed or through balls are needed to make best use of his talents. But an interesting and hard fought game and a point towards safety. Another tough fixture next week at Derby, let's hope O'Kane's injury is a monor one..[/p][/quote]Can't disagree with any of that SOC.... The team are at long last bringing TK into the game more, which is a positive. Still not the right balls for him as you say, but with Yann alongside him, I feel sure we'll see a big difference. TK does at least have the foresight to bring others into play, even if they can't quite do it for him as yet!![/p][/quote]Are you in love with Rantie?????? N Smith
  • Score: -8

7:57pm Sun 16 Feb 14

golfer33 says...

N Smith wrote:
Afcbpete wrote:
Square Old Codger wrote:
You must congratulate Eddie on his "Game Plan" and the players who implemented it so well, the most lethal pair of strikers in the Country didn't get a single shot at goal. Well done too the lads that came in for the injured players. The conditions were dreadful, a bumpy pitch and a high wind, Burnley adapted to it by playing a long ball, physical game, my one citicism of our game, the persistant long high balls down the centre to Rantie, meat and drink to the big Burnley central defenders. Over the top to give him the chance to use his speed or through balls are needed to make best use of his talents. But an interesting and hard fought game and a point towards safety. Another tough fixture next week at Derby, let's hope O'Kane's injury is a monor one..
Can't disagree with any of that SOC.... The team are at long last bringing TK into the game more, which is a positive. Still not the right balls for him as you say, but with Yann alongside him, I feel sure we'll see a big difference. TK does at least have the foresight to bring others into play, even if they can't quite do it for him as yet!!
Are you in love with Rantie??????
No, he believes we have a good player for the future.
[quote][p][bold]N Smith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Square Old Codger[/bold] wrote: You must congratulate Eddie on his "Game Plan" and the players who implemented it so well, the most lethal pair of strikers in the Country didn't get a single shot at goal. Well done too the lads that came in for the injured players. The conditions were dreadful, a bumpy pitch and a high wind, Burnley adapted to it by playing a long ball, physical game, my one citicism of our game, the persistant long high balls down the centre to Rantie, meat and drink to the big Burnley central defenders. Over the top to give him the chance to use his speed or through balls are needed to make best use of his talents. But an interesting and hard fought game and a point towards safety. Another tough fixture next week at Derby, let's hope O'Kane's injury is a monor one..[/p][/quote]Can't disagree with any of that SOC.... The team are at long last bringing TK into the game more, which is a positive. Still not the right balls for him as you say, but with Yann alongside him, I feel sure we'll see a big difference. TK does at least have the foresight to bring others into play, even if they can't quite do it for him as yet!![/p][/quote]Are you in love with Rantie??????[/p][/quote]No, he believes we have a good player for the future. golfer33
  • Score: 8

8:05pm Sun 16 Feb 14

N Smith says...

Maybe for the future but not for the present. !!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe for the future but not for the present. !!!!!!!!!!! N Smith
  • Score: -8

8:25pm Sun 16 Feb 14

nonnogeppetto says...

N Smith wrote:
Maybe for the future but not for the present. !!!!!!!!!!!
I don't understand where you are coming from. Do you want an instant successful team/player/players? or should EH built for the future?

I don't have a problem with people who don't rate Rantie based on what he has delivered so far however I do find it hard to accept the constant put down he gets from certain quarters. The team is made up of 11 players and they should aim to make each other's task as easy as possible whether in defense, midfield or up front.

Even the least enthusiastic Rantie supporter should admit that he hasn't had the supply that would facilitate goal scoring chances yes he has missed one or two sitters (one-one) chances, more out of pressure to score and try to please his critics I guess than lack of ability.

Given the right partner he will come good and prove us all wrong but we need patience with him the team as a whole and EH. Come next September October if he hasn't delivered I will be the first to congratulate you and few others for getting it right until then I would prefer to encourage him with my full support
[quote][p][bold]N Smith[/bold] wrote: Maybe for the future but not for the present. !!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I don't understand where you are coming from. Do you want an instant successful team/player/players? or should EH built for the future? I don't have a problem with people who don't rate Rantie based on what he has delivered so far however I do find it hard to accept the constant put down he gets from certain quarters. The team is made up of 11 players and they should aim to make each other's task as easy as possible whether in defense, midfield or up front. Even the least enthusiastic Rantie supporter should admit that he hasn't had the supply that would facilitate goal scoring chances yes he has missed one or two sitters (one-one) chances, more out of pressure to score and try to please his critics I guess than lack of ability. Given the right partner he will come good and prove us all wrong but we need patience with him the team as a whole and EH. Come next September October if he hasn't delivered I will be the first to congratulate you and few others for getting it right until then I would prefer to encourage him with my full support nonnogeppetto
  • Score: 6

8:40pm Sun 16 Feb 14

N Smith says...

nonnogeppetto wrote:
N Smith wrote:
Maybe for the future but not for the present. !!!!!!!!!!!
I don't understand where you are coming from. Do you want an instant successful team/player/players? or should EH built for the future?

I don't have a problem with people who don't rate Rantie based on what he has delivered so far however I do find it hard to accept the constant put down he gets from certain quarters. The team is made up of 11 players and they should aim to make each other's task as easy as possible whether in defense, midfield or up front.

Even the least enthusiastic Rantie supporter should admit that he hasn't had the supply that would facilitate goal scoring chances yes he has missed one or two sitters (one-one) chances, more out of pressure to score and try to please his critics I guess than lack of ability.

Given the right partner he will come good and prove us all wrong but we need patience with him the team as a whole and EH. Come next September October if he hasn't delivered I will be the first to congratulate you and few others for getting it right until then I would prefer to encourage him with my full support
So what's your point , as I said maybe for the future not the present.Rantie is not strong enough at this time for this league , also his first touch needs to improve.
[quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]N Smith[/bold] wrote: Maybe for the future but not for the present. !!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I don't understand where you are coming from. Do you want an instant successful team/player/players? or should EH built for the future? I don't have a problem with people who don't rate Rantie based on what he has delivered so far however I do find it hard to accept the constant put down he gets from certain quarters. The team is made up of 11 players and they should aim to make each other's task as easy as possible whether in defense, midfield or up front. Even the least enthusiastic Rantie supporter should admit that he hasn't had the supply that would facilitate goal scoring chances yes he has missed one or two sitters (one-one) chances, more out of pressure to score and try to please his critics I guess than lack of ability. Given the right partner he will come good and prove us all wrong but we need patience with him the team as a whole and EH. Come next September October if he hasn't delivered I will be the first to congratulate you and few others for getting it right until then I would prefer to encourage him with my full support[/p][/quote]So what's your point , as I said maybe for the future not the present.Rantie is not strong enough at this time for this league , also his first touch needs to improve. N Smith
  • Score: -2

8:54pm Sun 16 Feb 14

nonnogeppetto says...

N Smith wrote:
nonnogeppetto wrote:
N Smith wrote:
Maybe for the future but not for the present. !!!!!!!!!!!
I don't understand where you are coming from. Do you want an instant successful team/player/players? or should EH built for the future?

I don't have a problem with people who don't rate Rantie based on what he has delivered so far however I do find it hard to accept the constant put down he gets from certain quarters. The team is made up of 11 players and they should aim to make each other's task as easy as possible whether in defense, midfield or up front.

Even the least enthusiastic Rantie supporter should admit that he hasn't had the supply that would facilitate goal scoring chances yes he has missed one or two sitters (one-one) chances, more out of pressure to score and try to please his critics I guess than lack of ability.

Given the right partner he will come good and prove us all wrong but we need patience with him the team as a whole and EH. Come next September October if he hasn't delivered I will be the first to congratulate you and few others for getting it right until then I would prefer to encourage him with my full support
So what's your point , as I said maybe for the future not the present.Rantie is not strong enough at this time for this league , also his first touch needs to improve.
So you think that Rantie would improve his ball control by playing in a lower league? EH is building a team whilst at the same time competing with teams that have consolidated their place in the championship or have just dropped from the Premiership. Rantie has to play competitive football in this league, given the right partner and service and he will score goals. Until then he will continue to struggle that is my point. If your lack of support for him does not allow you to see that others may have a view too than there is very little point in continuing the argument.
[quote][p][bold]N Smith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]N Smith[/bold] wrote: Maybe for the future but not for the present. !!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I don't understand where you are coming from. Do you want an instant successful team/player/players? or should EH built for the future? I don't have a problem with people who don't rate Rantie based on what he has delivered so far however I do find it hard to accept the constant put down he gets from certain quarters. The team is made up of 11 players and they should aim to make each other's task as easy as possible whether in defense, midfield or up front. Even the least enthusiastic Rantie supporter should admit that he hasn't had the supply that would facilitate goal scoring chances yes he has missed one or two sitters (one-one) chances, more out of pressure to score and try to please his critics I guess than lack of ability. Given the right partner he will come good and prove us all wrong but we need patience with him the team as a whole and EH. Come next September October if he hasn't delivered I will be the first to congratulate you and few others for getting it right until then I would prefer to encourage him with my full support[/p][/quote]So what's your point , as I said maybe for the future not the present.Rantie is not strong enough at this time for this league , also his first touch needs to improve.[/p][/quote]So you think that Rantie would improve his ball control by playing in a lower league? EH is building a team whilst at the same time competing with teams that have consolidated their place in the championship or have just dropped from the Premiership. Rantie has to play competitive football in this league, given the right partner and service and he will score goals. Until then he will continue to struggle that is my point. If your lack of support for him does not allow you to see that others may have a view too than there is very little point in continuing the argument. nonnogeppetto
  • Score: 4

9:08pm Sun 16 Feb 14

N Smith says...

nonnogeppetto wrote:
N Smith wrote:
nonnogeppetto wrote:
N Smith wrote:
Maybe for the future but not for the present. !!!!!!!!!!!
I don't understand where you are coming from. Do you want an instant successful team/player/players? or should EH built for the future?

I don't have a problem with people who don't rate Rantie based on what he has delivered so far however I do find it hard to accept the constant put down he gets from certain quarters. The team is made up of 11 players and they should aim to make each other's task as easy as possible whether in defense, midfield or up front.

Even the least enthusiastic Rantie supporter should admit that he hasn't had the supply that would facilitate goal scoring chances yes he has missed one or two sitters (one-one) chances, more out of pressure to score and try to please his critics I guess than lack of ability.

Given the right partner he will come good and prove us all wrong but we need patience with him the team as a whole and EH. Come next September October if he hasn't delivered I will be the first to congratulate you and few others for getting it right until then I would prefer to encourage him with my full support
So what's your point , as I said maybe for the future not the present.Rantie is not strong enough at this time for this league , also his first touch needs to improve.
So you think that Rantie would improve his ball control by playing in a lower league? EH is building a team whilst at the same time competing with teams that have consolidated their place in the championship or have just dropped from the Premiership. Rantie has to play competitive football in this league, given the right partner and service and he will score goals. Until then he will continue to struggle that is my point. If your lack of support for him does not allow you to see that others may have a view too than there is very little point in continuing the argument.
Lack of support ?????
So if someone has a different view from yourself that makes them less a supporter hypocrite
[quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]N Smith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]N Smith[/bold] wrote: Maybe for the future but not for the present. !!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I don't understand where you are coming from. Do you want an instant successful team/player/players? or should EH built for the future? I don't have a problem with people who don't rate Rantie based on what he has delivered so far however I do find it hard to accept the constant put down he gets from certain quarters. The team is made up of 11 players and they should aim to make each other's task as easy as possible whether in defense, midfield or up front. Even the least enthusiastic Rantie supporter should admit that he hasn't had the supply that would facilitate goal scoring chances yes he has missed one or two sitters (one-one) chances, more out of pressure to score and try to please his critics I guess than lack of ability. Given the right partner he will come good and prove us all wrong but we need patience with him the team as a whole and EH. Come next September October if he hasn't delivered I will be the first to congratulate you and few others for getting it right until then I would prefer to encourage him with my full support[/p][/quote]So what's your point , as I said maybe for the future not the present.Rantie is not strong enough at this time for this league , also his first touch needs to improve.[/p][/quote]So you think that Rantie would improve his ball control by playing in a lower league? EH is building a team whilst at the same time competing with teams that have consolidated their place in the championship or have just dropped from the Premiership. Rantie has to play competitive football in this league, given the right partner and service and he will score goals. Until then he will continue to struggle that is my point. If your lack of support for him does not allow you to see that others may have a view too than there is very little point in continuing the argument.[/p][/quote]Lack of support ????? So if someone has a different view from yourself that makes them less a supporter hypocrite N Smith
  • Score: -3

9:14pm Sun 16 Feb 14

N Smith says...

By the way yes I do believe Rantie would benefit from a loan spell in Div1 if that's not the case why do prem league clubs send their youngsters there remember a player called Defoe
By the way yes I do believe Rantie would benefit from a loan spell in Div1 if that's not the case why do prem league clubs send their youngsters there remember a player called Defoe N Smith
  • Score: -4

9:20pm Sun 16 Feb 14

nonnogeppetto says...

NSMITH for the sake of everyone else on here and all concerned would you like to read and re-read what people say before you jump the gun and call them hypocrites I said I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH PEOPLE HAVING A DIFFERING VIEW OF THE PLAYER however it is the constant put down that I have a problem with especially when he hasn't even played half season with us. I really do not wish to continue this debate I will be happy to let history speak for itself whenever that be
NSMITH for the sake of everyone else on here and all concerned would you like to read and re-read what people say before you jump the gun and call them hypocrites I said I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH PEOPLE HAVING A DIFFERING VIEW OF THE PLAYER however it is the constant put down that I have a problem with especially when he hasn't even played half season with us. I really do not wish to continue this debate I will be happy to let history speak for itself whenever that be nonnogeppetto
  • Score: 11

9:35pm Sun 16 Feb 14

N Smith says...

nonnogeppetto wrote:
NSMITH for the sake of everyone else on here and all concerned would you like to read and re-read what people say before you jump the gun and call them hypocrites I said I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH PEOPLE HAVING A DIFFERING VIEW OF THE PLAYER however it is the constant put down that I have a problem with especially when he hasn't even played half season with us. I really do not wish to continue this debate I will be happy to let history speak for itself whenever that be
Ditto
Rantie may well go on to be a good player for AFCB let's hope he does.
[quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: NSMITH for the sake of everyone else on here and all concerned would you like to read and re-read what people say before you jump the gun and call them hypocrites I said I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH PEOPLE HAVING A DIFFERING VIEW OF THE PLAYER however it is the constant put down that I have a problem with especially when he hasn't even played half season with us. I really do not wish to continue this debate I will be happy to let history speak for itself whenever that be[/p][/quote]Ditto Rantie may well go on to be a good player for AFCB let's hope he does. N Smith
  • Score: 4

9:38pm Sun 16 Feb 14

cheeriedriteup says...

North stand badger wrote:
cheeriedriteup wrote:
jontee wrote:
After Rantie score against Huddersfield I said 1 swallow doesn' make a summer. Well neither does 2. A couple of friends behind the goal said he didn't know much about the header.
.
Anyway glad to see he's been picked for SA. How many games will he miss ?
Of course he might get injured...could we get that lucky !
I don't think he knew much about the goal, after all he was the smallest player in a packed box and never even jumped
If you really believe that then you are either stupid or have an irrational dislike of Rantie and are now trying to put him down even when he scores for us
Having an opinion doesn't make one stupid nor dislike an individual but I do not watch games with blinkers on
[quote][p][bold]North stand badger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cheeriedriteup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jontee[/bold] wrote: After Rantie score against Huddersfield I said 1 swallow doesn' make a summer. Well neither does 2. A couple of friends behind the goal said he didn't know much about the header. . Anyway glad to see he's been picked for SA. How many games will he miss ? Of course he might get injured...could we get that lucky ![/p][/quote]I don't think he knew much about the goal, after all he was the smallest player in a packed box and never even jumped[/p][/quote]If you really believe that then you are either stupid or have an irrational dislike of Rantie and are now trying to put him down even when he scores for us[/p][/quote]Having an opinion doesn't make one stupid nor dislike an individual but I do not watch games with blinkers on cheeriedriteup
  • Score: 0

10:53pm Sun 16 Feb 14

rogthedodge123 says...

Did Ings have an off day or was he not really trying ? maybe he was thinking If Burnley don't make it to the prem this year then I could come back and propel the cherries to the top flight,
I firmly believe he will be a playing for AFC next season as he owes Eddie a lot for where he is today and after Saturday we all know which team will be in contention for promotion next season.............I know what your thinking...Burnley might go up this year.........not a chance
Leicester/QPR/Derby are a cut above.
Did Ings have an off day or was he not really trying ? maybe he was thinking If Burnley don't make it to the prem this year then I could come back and propel the cherries to the top flight, I firmly believe he will be a playing for AFC next season as he owes Eddie a lot for where he is today and after Saturday we all know which team will be in contention for promotion next season.............I know what your thinking...Burnley might go up this year.........not a chance Leicester/QPR/Derby are a cut above. rogthedodge123
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10:55pm Sun 16 Feb 14

cheeriedriteup says...

rogthedodge123 wrote:
Did Ings have an off day or was he not really trying ? maybe he was thinking If Burnley don't make it to the prem this year then I could come back and propel the cherries to the top flight,
I firmly believe he will be a playing for AFC next season as he owes Eddie a lot for where he is today and after Saturday we all know which team will be in contention for promotion next season.............I know what your thinking...Burnley might go up this year.........not a chance
Leicester/QPR/Derby are a cut above.
I don't think he had the heart to try to hard, but it flattered our defence
[quote][p][bold]rogthedodge123[/bold] wrote: Did Ings have an off day or was he not really trying ? maybe he was thinking If Burnley don't make it to the prem this year then I could come back and propel the cherries to the top flight, I firmly believe he will be a playing for AFC next season as he owes Eddie a lot for where he is today and after Saturday we all know which team will be in contention for promotion next season.............I know what your thinking...Burnley might go up this year.........not a chance Leicester/QPR/Derby are a cut above.[/p][/quote]I don't think he had the heart to try to hard, but it flattered our defence cheeriedriteup
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2:00pm Tue 18 Feb 14

ReluctantNicko says...

What a laugh..."Leicster/QP
R/Derby a cut above Burnley".

Well, we drew1-1 AT Leicester, won 3-0 AT Derby and took 4 points off QPR.

You should have won Saturday, but we had chances to easily win at Turf Moor. The awful pitch did neither side any favours on Saturday, nullifying skilful players like Ings.

With a bit of luck,Burnley will NOT have to play at Dean Court next season...LOL
What a laugh..."Leicster/QP R/Derby a cut above Burnley". Well, we drew1-1 AT Leicester, won 3-0 AT Derby and took 4 points off QPR. You should have won Saturday, but we had chances to easily win at Turf Moor. The awful pitch did neither side any favours on Saturday, nullifying skilful players like Ings. With a bit of luck,Burnley will NOT have to play at Dean Court next season...LOL ReluctantNicko
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