Meldrum's FA Cup verdict: AFC Bournemouth 0 Liverpool 2

STAR MAN: Andrew Surman (foreground)

STAR MAN: Andrew Surman (foreground)

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IN the end, the occasion played second fiddle to the performance. Cherries were excellent.

Against teams like Liverpool, often the best the underdogs can hope for is simply to do themselves justice. But it was clear very early on that not-so-little-these-days Bournemouth were capable of winning the game. Perhaps they should have.

On that score, it was groundhog day. Plenty of possession, some wonderful moments from the likes of Andrew Surman and Harry Arter, but, in the end, a lack of cutting edge that has been apparent for some time. How many days of January are left again?

Cherries had to start well and they did. For 25 minutes of the first half, they made the fourth-placed team in the Premier League look very ordinary. That team boasted the England captain, Steven Gerrard, Europe’s most in-form striker Luis Suarez and another of our summer 2014 hopes, Daniel Sturridge.

Cherries forced two corners inside the opening two minutes as they came out of the blocks in a fashion akin to the excitement in the stands.

After three minutes, a superb move between Lewis Grabban, Arter and Marc Pugh saw the latter cross into the danger area. Surman, though, headed narrowly over Brad Jones’s crossbar. It was a start with real intent.

Another corner followed yet more neat inter-play between Arter, Surman and Pugh. Jones then avoided embarrassment by tipping Simon Francis’s free kick from deep into the Ted MacDougall Stand. Three minutes later, the Liverpool goalkeeper punched Matt Ritchie’s corner clear. It was all Cherries.

Pugh was next to go close, his header from Ritchie’s free kick after 22 minutes flashing wide.

But Gerrard was into his stride now. His stunning free kick three minutes later curled narrowly over Lee Camp’s crossbar after Arter had felled Suarez 25 yards out.

A minute later, Brendan Rodgers’s side were in front. It was so cruel on Cherries, but we have seen it before in this season of realignment since promotion from League One.

Suarez picked up the ball wide on the right and crossed for Victor Moses. He took a neat touch to open up some space before drilling past Camp from the edge of the box.

The goal didn’t rock Cherries as those watching Eddie Howe’s men for the first time may have expected. Moments after Moses’s opener Grabban fired straight at Jones. Jordan Henderson was then on hand to block Ritchie’s shot from distance.

Arter and Surman were running the show against Gerrard and Henderson. Surman, in particular, showed that touch of class. He looked like a Premier League player.

On the half-hour, Arter cut loose from 30 yards but while his shot looked to have Jones in trouble, it was wide of the target. Grabban then saw his right-foot drive blocked after he had linked well with Arter.

As Cherries continued to push, Kolo Toure threw himself in the way of Surman’s shot on the turn from inside the penalty area. It was a great chance.

From the corner that followed, Tommy Elphick rose high above both Toure and Martin Skrtel, but his header flew over. At the other end, after 38 minutes, Henderson blazed over when superbly teed-up by the twisting and turning Suarez. It was a huge let-off for Cherries.

Arter had three more chances to find the net before half-time. The first he blasted deep into the MacDougall stand, before his second attempt was easily saved by Jones. On the stroke of half-time, the midfielder’s right-foot shot was blocked by Skrtel.

Rodgers felt his side had not worked hard enough on one side of the field, presumably in front of right full-back Martin Kelly who was tested over and over by Pugh and Charlie Daniels. In the second half, the Liverpool manager’s attention to detail was clear as Pugh and Daniels were given far less time on the ball.

But it was still Cherries who looked the most threatening.

They pressed, played at a high tempo and showed no lack of attacking invention.

They could have had a penalty early in the second period after Kelly appeared to pull the shirt of Francis. Referee Lee Probert said no.

With Skrtel off the pitch receiving treatment following a clash of heads with Surman, it was the home side’s chance to get back in the game.

On 57 minutes, Arter burst clear down the right, but he delayed his cross and Gerrard blocked. The Liverpool captain was booked moments later following words with official Probert.

On the hour, Sturridge made it 2-0 and, effectively, it was game over. Suarez picked up the ball midway inside the Cherries half and turned, before playing in the England striker with a defence-splitting through ball. In front of national manager Roy Hodgson, Sturridge coolly slotted past Camp. It was precision. It was ruthless.

Cherries still looked threatening, though, despite seeing less of the ball. Gerrard was now dictating at his pace. Some of Liverpool’s possession play was wonderful.

Surman’s shot on 62 minutes flashed wide. Ritchie then followed up by missing the target.

Camp had to be quickly off his line to deny Suarez after Phillipe Coutinho had played in the Uruguayan on 67 minutes. Grabban then fired wide. It was a breathless period of play.

Sturridge’s clever lob following Henderson’s lofted ball from deep on 72 minutes clipped the top of Camp’s crossbar, before the striker skewed a shot horribly wide three minutes later. In a show of good humour, the Reds fans gathered in the MacDougall stand chanted “What the ******* hell was that?” at their own man.

Suarez tried a lob of his own on 76 minutes after Sturridge had returned the assist favour, but he, too, failed to trouble Camp. The Suarez show was turning out to be a damp squib.

Ten minutes from time, with Cherries’ efforts beginning to take a toll, Sturridge was denied by Camp. On the stroke of full-time, Grabban’s fearsome right-foot shot was well saved by Jones. Camp then had the final say over Suarez with a good, strong save from close range.

So, Cherries are out of the FA Cup. It matters not.

A club which prides itself on family values and looking after those that have, in turbulent times, looked after it, made many more friends from a game in which they stuck to principles Liverpool Football Club would have been proud to call its own.

Indeed, the performance made the occasion.

 

MATCH FACTS

Cherries: (4-1-4-1) Camp 7.5; Francis 7.5, Elphick 8, Ward 8, Daniels 7.5; O’Kane 8; Ritchie 7.5 (Fraser, 73), Surman 8.5*, Arter 8 (Pitman, 78), Pugh 7.5 (Rantie, 73); Grabban 8.

Unused subs: Cook, Harte, MacDonald, Allsop (g/k).

Liverpool: (4-4-2) Jones; Kelly (Flanagan, 73), Toure, Skrtel, Cissokho; Moses (Sterling, 84), Gerrard, Henderson, Coutinho (Alberto, 84); Suarez, Sturridge.

Unused subs: Aspas, Ibe, Sama, Mignolet (g/k).

Booked: Gerrard.

Referee: Lee Probert (Wiltshire).

Attendance: 11,475.

 

ECHO STAR MAN - ANDREW SURMAN

Surman’s performances over the past few weeks have proved Eddie Howe was right to sign him on loan.

On Saturday, against the England captain, one of the finest midfielders of the modern generation, Surman showed he has that touch of Premier League class.

Alongside Harry Arter, he was outstanding. 

With the protective force of Eunan O’Kane behind him, Surman largely dictated the pace of the game and showed tremendous vision and awareness when Cherries attacked.

This was his best performance in a Cherries shirt.

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7:23pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Nat1234 says...

Everyone is saying it now apart from a few RANTIE AND PITTMAN die hards . (but of cause those people can't know a thing about strikers ) that we are a very good footballing team that could get in the prem . IF ONLY WE HAD 2 GOOD STRIKERS . Eddie must realise by now that he has made one big mistake in buying rantie . But come on Eddie everyone makes mistakes .. Just get rid of him . Even bring back tubbs , he is a much better player than rantie ...
Everyone is saying it now apart from a few RANTIE AND PITTMAN die hards . (but of cause those people can't know a thing about strikers ) that we are a very good footballing team that could get in the prem . IF ONLY WE HAD 2 GOOD STRIKERS . Eddie must realise by now that he has made one big mistake in buying rantie . But come on Eddie everyone makes mistakes .. Just get rid of him . Even bring back tubbs , he is a much better player than rantie ... Nat1234
  • Score: -21

7:23pm Sun 26 Jan 14

wendycherry says...

A performance to be proud of, well done Cherries! Just a shame we didn't get a (deserved) goal, and we should have been given that penalty - surprised Simon Francis's shirt was still in one piece! Hope to get a good result against Huddersfield on Tuesday! UPCIAD xx
A performance to be proud of, well done Cherries! Just a shame we didn't get a (deserved) goal, and we should have been given that penalty - surprised Simon Francis's shirt was still in one piece! Hope to get a good result against Huddersfield on Tuesday! UPCIAD xx wendycherry
  • Score: 5

7:37pm Sun 26 Jan 14

big_afcb_fan says...

tuesday will be more important! a win is needed eddie, clock is ticking we need a big centre forward tomorrow.
tuesday will be more important! a win is needed eddie, clock is ticking we need a big centre forward tomorrow. big_afcb_fan
  • Score: -6

7:41pm Sun 26 Jan 14

abc100 says...

Nat1234 wrote:
Everyone is saying it now apart from a few RANTIE AND PITTMAN die hards . (but of cause those people can't know a thing about strikers ) that we are a very good footballing team that could get in the prem . IF ONLY WE HAD 2 GOOD STRIKERS . Eddie must realise by now that he has made one big mistake in buying rantie . But come on Eddie everyone makes mistakes .. Just get rid of him . Even bring back tubbs , he is a much better player than rantie ...
I agree that Rantie is not up to it at the moment, however I believe that maybe we should judge him next season, hopefully he will of toughened up, settled in and had a decent pre season, On Pitman I only think it's worth him being on the pitch if he is played up front, none of this just behind the striker as he clearly cannot do that in this division, league one perhaps he could, also Pitman is a player that clearly needs to be playing every game and not a sub and he is not going to play ahead of Grabbon, I can't believe Eddie is not trying to get a forward in with a bit of a presence (not a target man)
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: Everyone is saying it now apart from a few RANTIE AND PITTMAN die hards . (but of cause those people can't know a thing about strikers ) that we are a very good footballing team that could get in the prem . IF ONLY WE HAD 2 GOOD STRIKERS . Eddie must realise by now that he has made one big mistake in buying rantie . But come on Eddie everyone makes mistakes .. Just get rid of him . Even bring back tubbs , he is a much better player than rantie ...[/p][/quote]I agree that Rantie is not up to it at the moment, however I believe that maybe we should judge him next season, hopefully he will of toughened up, settled in and had a decent pre season, On Pitman I only think it's worth him being on the pitch if he is played up front, none of this just behind the striker as he clearly cannot do that in this division, league one perhaps he could, also Pitman is a player that clearly needs to be playing every game and not a sub and he is not going to play ahead of Grabbon, I can't believe Eddie is not trying to get a forward in with a bit of a presence (not a target man) abc100
  • Score: -8

7:55pm Sun 26 Jan 14

nonnogeppetto says...

Looking at Liverpool's second goal scored by Sturridge it is very interesting to note that he is looking down at the ball when he kicks it. All too often our players have their heads up and not necessarily looking at the ball, a small detail but I believe an important factor for accuracy. I am no expert so someone may well tell me that looking at the ball is not a priority. I'll wait and see what others think. UTCIAD
Looking at Liverpool's second goal scored by Sturridge it is very interesting to note that he is looking down at the ball when he kicks it. All too often our players have their heads up and not necessarily looking at the ball, a small detail but I believe an important factor for accuracy. I am no expert so someone may well tell me that looking at the ball is not a priority. I'll wait and see what others think. UTCIAD nonnogeppetto
  • Score: 1

8:19pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Afcbpete says...

Excellent performance, proving we can mix it, even with the likes of Liverpool. But as we all know, it's the usual problems of decent passes and supply. Some want to show their ignorance regards Rantie, that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, even if it's misplaced and pretty ignorant in it's delivery, as poor as the service TK get's on the pitch in fact. Some wouldn't know quality if it bit them. Once the team learn to play to his strengths, once he starts getting the service his sort of forward requires, once he's settled in to a new country, way of living and playing, once he's had a close season (because he's not had a break as such in a year), once he's actually receiving the ball instead of having to chase around trying to find it, once people get off his back and actually support him, THEN, then judge him!! and IF after all that, he doesn't come up with the goods, THEN I'll concede buying him was a mistake, but that's a VERY long way off!!
Some of you should be ashamed, call yourselves supporters?? you don't know the meaning of the word. Stop whinging and look at the facts and support the guy!!
Excellent performance, proving we can mix it, even with the likes of Liverpool. But as we all know, it's the usual problems of decent passes and supply. Some want to show their ignorance regards Rantie, that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, even if it's misplaced and pretty ignorant in it's delivery, as poor as the service TK get's on the pitch in fact. Some wouldn't know quality if it bit them. Once the team learn to play to his strengths, once he starts getting the service his sort of forward requires, once he's settled in to a new country, way of living and playing, once he's had a close season (because he's not had a break as such in a year), once he's actually receiving the ball instead of having to chase around trying to find it, once people get off his back and actually support him, THEN, then judge him!! and IF after all that, he doesn't come up with the goods, THEN I'll concede buying him was a mistake, but that's a VERY long way off!! Some of you should be ashamed, call yourselves supporters?? you don't know the meaning of the word. Stop whinging and look at the facts and support the guy!! Afcbpete
  • Score: 28

8:33pm Sun 26 Jan 14

N Smith says...

Poor sevice !!! What rubbish Rantie is not a championship player
Poor sevice !!! What rubbish Rantie is not a championship player N Smith
  • Score: -20

8:44pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Afcbpete says...

N Smith wrote:
Poor sevice !!! What rubbish Rantie is not a championship player
If you honestly believe that, I feel sorry for you :)
[quote][p][bold]N Smith[/bold] wrote: Poor sevice !!! What rubbish Rantie is not a championship player[/p][/quote]If you honestly believe that, I feel sorry for you :) Afcbpete
  • Score: 10

8:46pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Nat1234 says...

Afcbpete wrote:
Excellent performance, proving we can mix it, even with the likes of Liverpool. But as we all know, it's the usual problems of decent passes and supply. Some want to show their ignorance regards Rantie, that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, even if it's misplaced and pretty ignorant in it's delivery, as poor as the service TK get's on the pitch in fact. Some wouldn't know quality if it bit them. Once the team learn to play to his strengths, once he starts getting the service his sort of forward requires, once he's settled in to a new country, way of living and playing, once he's had a close season (because he's not had a break as such in a year), once he's actually receiving the ball instead of having to chase around trying to find it, once people get off his back and actually support him, THEN, then judge him!! and IF after all that, he doesn't come up with the goods, THEN I'll concede buying him was a mistake, but that's a VERY long way off!!
Some of you should be ashamed, call yourselves supporters?? you don't know the meaning of the word. Stop whinging and look at the facts and support the guy!!
Why should people be ashamed , everyone is entitled to an opinion . I spend my well earned money the same as you probably do . And if I see utter rubbish then I'm allowed to express it , what I'm saying is that we have got a very good team , a team that I think could reach the prem . But I don't think they will do it with the likes of rantie and Pittman up front . On a number of occasions yesterday , rantie was asking for the ball , but at least 2 of our players didn't pass the ball to him , when it was the easiest ball to play . That tells me that even players in the team have no confidence in him . I just think if Eddie has payed 1.5 million for him , he should of scored more than ONE GOAL .
[quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: Excellent performance, proving we can mix it, even with the likes of Liverpool. But as we all know, it's the usual problems of decent passes and supply. Some want to show their ignorance regards Rantie, that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, even if it's misplaced and pretty ignorant in it's delivery, as poor as the service TK get's on the pitch in fact. Some wouldn't know quality if it bit them. Once the team learn to play to his strengths, once he starts getting the service his sort of forward requires, once he's settled in to a new country, way of living and playing, once he's had a close season (because he's not had a break as such in a year), once he's actually receiving the ball instead of having to chase around trying to find it, once people get off his back and actually support him, THEN, then judge him!! and IF after all that, he doesn't come up with the goods, THEN I'll concede buying him was a mistake, but that's a VERY long way off!! Some of you should be ashamed, call yourselves supporters?? you don't know the meaning of the word. Stop whinging and look at the facts and support the guy!![/p][/quote]Why should people be ashamed , everyone is entitled to an opinion . I spend my well earned money the same as you probably do . And if I see utter rubbish then I'm allowed to express it , what I'm saying is that we have got a very good team , a team that I think could reach the prem . But I don't think they will do it with the likes of rantie and Pittman up front . On a number of occasions yesterday , rantie was asking for the ball , but at least 2 of our players didn't pass the ball to him , when it was the easiest ball to play . That tells me that even players in the team have no confidence in him . I just think if Eddie has payed 1.5 million for him , he should of scored more than ONE GOAL . Nat1234
  • Score: -12

8:47pm Sun 26 Jan 14

lionheart says...

Afcbpete wrote:
Excellent performance, proving we can mix it, even with the likes of Liverpool. But as we all know, it's the usual problems of decent passes and supply. Some want to show their ignorance regards Rantie, that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, even if it's misplaced and pretty ignorant in it's delivery, as poor as the service TK get's on the pitch in fact. Some wouldn't know quality if it bit them. Once the team learn to play to his strengths, once he starts getting the service his sort of forward requires, once he's settled in to a new country, way of living and playing, once he's had a close season (because he's not had a break as such in a year), once he's actually receiving the ball instead of having to chase around trying to find it, once people get off his back and actually support him, THEN, then judge him!! and IF after all that, he doesn't come up with the goods, THEN I'll concede buying him was a mistake, but that's a VERY long way off!!
Some of you should be ashamed, call yourselves supporters?? you don't know the meaning of the word. Stop whinging and look at the facts and support the guy!!
I'm afraid our subs never provided any real impetus especially with our main goal scoring threat, Lewis Grabban, moving to right midfield.

As it stands we can't seem to play to TK's strengths of getting in behind defenders using his pace. He needs a buddy to play with him, someone taller with the ability to take aerial balls down on their chest or headed flick on's to play him in.
[quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: Excellent performance, proving we can mix it, even with the likes of Liverpool. But as we all know, it's the usual problems of decent passes and supply. Some want to show their ignorance regards Rantie, that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, even if it's misplaced and pretty ignorant in it's delivery, as poor as the service TK get's on the pitch in fact. Some wouldn't know quality if it bit them. Once the team learn to play to his strengths, once he starts getting the service his sort of forward requires, once he's settled in to a new country, way of living and playing, once he's had a close season (because he's not had a break as such in a year), once he's actually receiving the ball instead of having to chase around trying to find it, once people get off his back and actually support him, THEN, then judge him!! and IF after all that, he doesn't come up with the goods, THEN I'll concede buying him was a mistake, but that's a VERY long way off!! Some of you should be ashamed, call yourselves supporters?? you don't know the meaning of the word. Stop whinging and look at the facts and support the guy!![/p][/quote]I'm afraid our subs never provided any real impetus especially with our main goal scoring threat, Lewis Grabban, moving to right midfield. As it stands we can't seem to play to TK's strengths of getting in behind defenders using his pace. He needs a buddy to play with him, someone taller with the ability to take aerial balls down on their chest or headed flick on's to play him in. lionheart
  • Score: 5

8:49pm Sun 26 Jan 14

N Smith says...

Afcbpete wrote:
N Smith wrote:
Poor sevice !!! What rubbish Rantie is not a championship player
If you honestly believe that, I feel sorry for you :)
No need to feel sorry for me, go and listen to the pundits from yesterdays match .Its pretty obvious the one thing we are missing is a decent striker.
Even when Rantie gets through on goal or has a chance to make a killer pass he fluffs his lines time and time again that's if he can stay on his feet long enough.
[quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]N Smith[/bold] wrote: Poor sevice !!! What rubbish Rantie is not a championship player[/p][/quote]If you honestly believe that, I feel sorry for you :)[/p][/quote]No need to feel sorry for me, go and listen to the pundits from yesterdays match .Its pretty obvious the one thing we are missing is a decent striker. Even when Rantie gets through on goal or has a chance to make a killer pass he fluffs his lines time and time again that's if he can stay on his feet long enough. N Smith
  • Score: -6

8:52pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Afcbpete says...

lionheart wrote:
Afcbpete wrote:
Excellent performance, proving we can mix it, even with the likes of Liverpool. But as we all know, it's the usual problems of decent passes and supply. Some want to show their ignorance regards Rantie, that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, even if it's misplaced and pretty ignorant in it's delivery, as poor as the service TK get's on the pitch in fact. Some wouldn't know quality if it bit them. Once the team learn to play to his strengths, once he starts getting the service his sort of forward requires, once he's settled in to a new country, way of living and playing, once he's had a close season (because he's not had a break as such in a year), once he's actually receiving the ball instead of having to chase around trying to find it, once people get off his back and actually support him, THEN, then judge him!! and IF after all that, he doesn't come up with the goods, THEN I'll concede buying him was a mistake, but that's a VERY long way off!!
Some of you should be ashamed, call yourselves supporters?? you don't know the meaning of the word. Stop whinging and look at the facts and support the guy!!
I'm afraid our subs never provided any real impetus especially with our main goal scoring threat, Lewis Grabban, moving to right midfield.

As it stands we can't seem to play to TK's strengths of getting in behind defenders using his pace. He needs a buddy to play with him, someone taller with the ability to take aerial balls down on their chest or headed flick on's to play him in.
absolutely, and if having played him in such a way, and it doesn't work out, then people have a right to have a go. but now is totally out of order. But then, there are a few on here I'd not give the time of day too whether it's their attitude to TK, or some of the other rubbish they regularly post....
[quote][p][bold]lionheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: Excellent performance, proving we can mix it, even with the likes of Liverpool. But as we all know, it's the usual problems of decent passes and supply. Some want to show their ignorance regards Rantie, that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, even if it's misplaced and pretty ignorant in it's delivery, as poor as the service TK get's on the pitch in fact. Some wouldn't know quality if it bit them. Once the team learn to play to his strengths, once he starts getting the service his sort of forward requires, once he's settled in to a new country, way of living and playing, once he's had a close season (because he's not had a break as such in a year), once he's actually receiving the ball instead of having to chase around trying to find it, once people get off his back and actually support him, THEN, then judge him!! and IF after all that, he doesn't come up with the goods, THEN I'll concede buying him was a mistake, but that's a VERY long way off!! Some of you should be ashamed, call yourselves supporters?? you don't know the meaning of the word. Stop whinging and look at the facts and support the guy!![/p][/quote]I'm afraid our subs never provided any real impetus especially with our main goal scoring threat, Lewis Grabban, moving to right midfield. As it stands we can't seem to play to TK's strengths of getting in behind defenders using his pace. He needs a buddy to play with him, someone taller with the ability to take aerial balls down on their chest or headed flick on's to play him in.[/p][/quote]absolutely, and if having played him in such a way, and it doesn't work out, then people have a right to have a go. but now is totally out of order. But then, there are a few on here I'd not give the time of day too whether it's their attitude to TK, or some of the other rubbish they regularly post.... Afcbpete
  • Score: 6

8:55pm Sun 26 Jan 14

N Smith says...

Afcbpete wrote:
lionheart wrote:
Afcbpete wrote:
Excellent performance, proving we can mix it, even with the likes of Liverpool. But as we all know, it's the usual problems of decent passes and supply. Some want to show their ignorance regards Rantie, that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, even if it's misplaced and pretty ignorant in it's delivery, as poor as the service TK get's on the pitch in fact. Some wouldn't know quality if it bit them. Once the team learn to play to his strengths, once he starts getting the service his sort of forward requires, once he's settled in to a new country, way of living and playing, once he's had a close season (because he's not had a break as such in a year), once he's actually receiving the ball instead of having to chase around trying to find it, once people get off his back and actually support him, THEN, then judge him!! and IF after all that, he doesn't come up with the goods, THEN I'll concede buying him was a mistake, but that's a VERY long way off!!
Some of you should be ashamed, call yourselves supporters?? you don't know the meaning of the word. Stop whinging and look at the facts and support the guy!!
I'm afraid our subs never provided any real impetus especially with our main goal scoring threat, Lewis Grabban, moving to right midfield.

As it stands we can't seem to play to TK's strengths of getting in behind defenders using his pace. He needs a buddy to play with him, someone taller with the ability to take aerial balls down on their chest or headed flick on's to play him in.
absolutely, and if having played him in such a way, and it doesn't work out, then people have a right to have a go. but now is totally out of order. But then, there are a few on here I'd not give the time of day too whether it's their attitude to TK, or some of the other rubbish they regularly post....
I should imagine a lot of people on here would have the same opinion about your comments
[quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lionheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: Excellent performance, proving we can mix it, even with the likes of Liverpool. But as we all know, it's the usual problems of decent passes and supply. Some want to show their ignorance regards Rantie, that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, even if it's misplaced and pretty ignorant in it's delivery, as poor as the service TK get's on the pitch in fact. Some wouldn't know quality if it bit them. Once the team learn to play to his strengths, once he starts getting the service his sort of forward requires, once he's settled in to a new country, way of living and playing, once he's had a close season (because he's not had a break as such in a year), once he's actually receiving the ball instead of having to chase around trying to find it, once people get off his back and actually support him, THEN, then judge him!! and IF after all that, he doesn't come up with the goods, THEN I'll concede buying him was a mistake, but that's a VERY long way off!! Some of you should be ashamed, call yourselves supporters?? you don't know the meaning of the word. Stop whinging and look at the facts and support the guy!![/p][/quote]I'm afraid our subs never provided any real impetus especially with our main goal scoring threat, Lewis Grabban, moving to right midfield. As it stands we can't seem to play to TK's strengths of getting in behind defenders using his pace. He needs a buddy to play with him, someone taller with the ability to take aerial balls down on their chest or headed flick on's to play him in.[/p][/quote]absolutely, and if having played him in such a way, and it doesn't work out, then people have a right to have a go. but now is totally out of order. But then, there are a few on here I'd not give the time of day too whether it's their attitude to TK, or some of the other rubbish they regularly post....[/p][/quote]I should imagine a lot of people on here would have the same opinion about your comments N Smith
  • Score: -7

9:03pm Sun 26 Jan 14

bournered26 says...

Nat1234 wrote:
Everyone is saying it now apart from a few RANTIE AND PITTMAN die hards . (but of cause those people can't know a thing about strikers ) that we are a very good footballing team that could get in the prem . IF ONLY WE HAD 2 GOOD STRIKERS . Eddie must realise by now that he has made one big mistake in buying rantie . But come on Eddie everyone makes mistakes .. Just get rid of him . Even bring back tubbs , he is a much better player than rantie ...
Whilst you may be correct do you really have to keep on saying the same thing day after day on here it gets very boring to say the least !!!!
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: Everyone is saying it now apart from a few RANTIE AND PITTMAN die hards . (but of cause those people can't know a thing about strikers ) that we are a very good footballing team that could get in the prem . IF ONLY WE HAD 2 GOOD STRIKERS . Eddie must realise by now that he has made one big mistake in buying rantie . But come on Eddie everyone makes mistakes .. Just get rid of him . Even bring back tubbs , he is a much better player than rantie ...[/p][/quote]Whilst you may be correct do you really have to keep on saying the same thing day after day on here it gets very boring to say the least !!!! bournered26
  • Score: -2

9:04pm Sun 26 Jan 14

golfer33 says...

Nat1234 wrote:
Everyone is saying it now apart from a few RANTIE AND PITTMAN die hards . (but of cause those people can't know a thing about strikers ) that we are a very good footballing team that could get in the prem . IF ONLY WE HAD 2 GOOD STRIKERS . Eddie must realise by now that he has made one big mistake in buying rantie . But come on Eddie everyone makes mistakes .. Just get rid of him . Even bring back tubbs , he is a much better player than rantie ...
shut up
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: Everyone is saying it now apart from a few RANTIE AND PITTMAN die hards . (but of cause those people can't know a thing about strikers ) that we are a very good footballing team that could get in the prem . IF ONLY WE HAD 2 GOOD STRIKERS . Eddie must realise by now that he has made one big mistake in buying rantie . But come on Eddie everyone makes mistakes .. Just get rid of him . Even bring back tubbs , he is a much better player than rantie ...[/p][/quote]shut up golfer33
  • Score: 8

9:16pm Sun 26 Jan 14

St Albans Cherry says...

The trouble is that after much scratching of the head I can find no one out there likely to come to us? We can't pay the wages of a top player. Could we ask Sam and Danny back from the Burnley? The Burnley fans would riot. No, so unless our scout system finds others then we have to accept our lot this season. Another Burnley link? Wes Fletcher. Would York sell him? Would he hit the Championship running? I hope that you take my point . Buying a top striker is impossible and buying one for the future is a gamble. We need all this fixed next season for sure. This season one of our guys will hit a seam and start to score. We need patience. This Tuesday we will be there and hope it's against Huddersfield!
The trouble is that after much scratching of the head I can find no one out there likely to come to us? We can't pay the wages of a top player. Could we ask Sam and Danny back from the Burnley? The Burnley fans would riot. No, so unless our scout system finds others then we have to accept our lot this season. Another Burnley link? Wes Fletcher. Would York sell him? Would he hit the Championship running? I hope that you take my point . Buying a top striker is impossible and buying one for the future is a gamble. We need all this fixed next season for sure. This season one of our guys will hit a seam and start to score. We need patience. This Tuesday we will be there and hope it's against Huddersfield! St Albans Cherry
  • Score: 1

9:21pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Rotterdam says...

Afcbpete wrote:
Excellent performance, proving we can mix it, even with the likes of Liverpool. But as we all know, it's the usual problems of decent passes and supply. Some want to show their ignorance regards Rantie, that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, even if it's misplaced and pretty ignorant in it's delivery, as poor as the service TK get's on the pitch in fact. Some wouldn't know quality if it bit them. Once the team learn to play to his strengths, once he starts getting the service his sort of forward requires, once he's settled in to a new country, way of living and playing, once he's had a close season (because he's not had a break as such in a year), once he's actually receiving the ball instead of having to chase around trying to find it, once people get off his back and actually support him, THEN, then judge him!! and IF after all that, he doesn't come up with the goods, THEN I'll concede buying him was a mistake, but that's a VERY long way off!!
Some of you should be ashamed, call yourselves supporters?? you don't know the meaning of the word. Stop whinging and look at the facts and support the guy!!
I think I agree with this, Afcpete.

Building up a decent team doesn't happen overnight, and it's stupid to risk the parts of the structure that are working - you need to build on them. Rantie is a big investment at £2 million, and we've all seen sparks of real quality in his play. EH will be looking for ways to build on that, and he certainly won't be selling him (at a loss) at the first opportunity.

Fact is, our goalscoring record isn't too bad (10th in the Championship). We're actually setting up a quite high number of opportunities, but obviously just not converting enough of them.

Frankly, lots of decent practice with the players we've got will likely give a better return than lashing out on yet another striker
[quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: Excellent performance, proving we can mix it, even with the likes of Liverpool. But as we all know, it's the usual problems of decent passes and supply. Some want to show their ignorance regards Rantie, that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, even if it's misplaced and pretty ignorant in it's delivery, as poor as the service TK get's on the pitch in fact. Some wouldn't know quality if it bit them. Once the team learn to play to his strengths, once he starts getting the service his sort of forward requires, once he's settled in to a new country, way of living and playing, once he's had a close season (because he's not had a break as such in a year), once he's actually receiving the ball instead of having to chase around trying to find it, once people get off his back and actually support him, THEN, then judge him!! and IF after all that, he doesn't come up with the goods, THEN I'll concede buying him was a mistake, but that's a VERY long way off!! Some of you should be ashamed, call yourselves supporters?? you don't know the meaning of the word. Stop whinging and look at the facts and support the guy!![/p][/quote]I think I agree with this, Afcpete. Building up a decent team doesn't happen overnight, and it's stupid to risk the parts of the structure that are working - you need to build on them. Rantie is a big investment at £2 million, and we've all seen sparks of real quality in his play. EH will be looking for ways to build on that, and he certainly won't be selling him (at a loss) at the first opportunity. Fact is, our goalscoring record isn't too bad (10th in the Championship). We're actually setting up a quite high number of opportunities, but obviously just not converting enough of them. Frankly, lots of decent practice with the players we've got will likely give a better return than lashing out on yet another striker Rotterdam
  • Score: 6

9:22pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Afcbpete says...

St Albans Cherry wrote:
The trouble is that after much scratching of the head I can find no one out there likely to come to us? We can't pay the wages of a top player. Could we ask Sam and Danny back from the Burnley? The Burnley fans would riot. No, so unless our scout system finds others then we have to accept our lot this season. Another Burnley link? Wes Fletcher. Would York sell him? Would he hit the Championship running? I hope that you take my point . Buying a top striker is impossible and buying one for the future is a gamble. We need all this fixed next season for sure. This season one of our guys will hit a seam and start to score. We need patience. This Tuesday we will be there and hope it's against Huddersfield!
I would imagine Eddie hopes Josh O'Hanlon will turn out to be the next Charlie Austin. You're quite right, if we can't buy success in the way many have, then it will have to be the patient route, and as has already been demonstrated, there are a few who won't be prepared to wait, and will castigate whoever, because they're not performing from the off. Sadly we have a few very short sight people who go and watch us, I won't insult the rest, by calling them supporters!!
[quote][p][bold]St Albans Cherry[/bold] wrote: The trouble is that after much scratching of the head I can find no one out there likely to come to us? We can't pay the wages of a top player. Could we ask Sam and Danny back from the Burnley? The Burnley fans would riot. No, so unless our scout system finds others then we have to accept our lot this season. Another Burnley link? Wes Fletcher. Would York sell him? Would he hit the Championship running? I hope that you take my point . Buying a top striker is impossible and buying one for the future is a gamble. We need all this fixed next season for sure. This season one of our guys will hit a seam and start to score. We need patience. This Tuesday we will be there and hope it's against Huddersfield![/p][/quote]I would imagine Eddie hopes Josh O'Hanlon will turn out to be the next Charlie Austin. You're quite right, if we can't buy success in the way many have, then it will have to be the patient route, and as has already been demonstrated, there are a few who won't be prepared to wait, and will castigate whoever, because they're not performing from the off. Sadly we have a few very short sight people who go and watch us, I won't insult the rest, by calling them supporters!! Afcbpete
  • Score: 3

9:22pm Sun 26 Jan 14

golfer33 says...

Thought Daniels was our best player again,
Lets hope he doesnt get snapped up.
Thought Daniels was our best player again, Lets hope he doesnt get snapped up. golfer33
  • Score: 5

9:25pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Put it in the mixer says...

Was at game yesterday, great team effort, and Daniels best game of season by far. But, re the Rantie debate, I've said it before and I'll say it again. Not one of players know how to slot an early ball in the channel (like Suarez did for Sturridge when he dropped off) for Rantie to get on to. If he gets these passes and doesn't score then fair enough, but until then we can't fully judge. He made at least 6 off the shoulder jinks yesterday and would have had Skrtel or Toure for toast, but just not spotted. As good as our tidy midfielders are, that pass, or quality in the final 3rd as the pundits rightly called out, is not there yet.
Was at game yesterday, great team effort, and Daniels best game of season by far. But, re the Rantie debate, I've said it before and I'll say it again. Not one of players know how to slot an early ball in the channel (like Suarez did for Sturridge when he dropped off) for Rantie to get on to. If he gets these passes and doesn't score then fair enough, but until then we can't fully judge. He made at least 6 off the shoulder jinks yesterday and would have had Skrtel or Toure for toast, but just not spotted. As good as our tidy midfielders are, that pass, or quality in the final 3rd as the pundits rightly called out, is not there yet. Put it in the mixer
  • Score: 10

9:27pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Put it in the mixer says...

Sorry, meant to also add re Pitman, he's just not athletic enough for the highest 2 leagues. Good technique, but no legs. That's his constraint, and most of us know it probably.
Sorry, meant to also add re Pitman, he's just not athletic enough for the highest 2 leagues. Good technique, but no legs. That's his constraint, and most of us know it probably. Put it in the mixer
  • Score: 4

9:50pm Sun 26 Jan 14

nonnogeppetto says...

Afcbpete wrote:
Excellent performance, proving we can mix it, even with the likes of Liverpool. But as we all know, it's the usual problems of decent passes and supply. Some want to show their ignorance regards Rantie, that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, even if it's misplaced and pretty ignorant in it's delivery, as poor as the service TK get's on the pitch in fact. Some wouldn't know quality if it bit them. Once the team learn to play to his strengths, once he starts getting the service his sort of forward requires, once he's settled in to a new country, way of living and playing, once he's had a close season (because he's not had a break as such in a year), once he's actually receiving the ball instead of having to chase around trying to find it, once people get off his back and actually support him, THEN, then judge him!! and IF after all that, he doesn't come up with the goods, THEN I'll concede buying him was a mistake, but that's a VERY long way off!!
Some of you should be ashamed, call yourselves supporters?? you don't know the meaning of the word. Stop whinging and look at the facts and support the guy!!
I agree afcbpete EH is looking beyond 2013-14 season and whilst Rantie seem not a good signing at the moment he will fulfill his role once EH finds an appropriate partner for him. I wonder how the Burnley supporters greeted the arrival of Ings when EH signed him. I am sure some would have disagreed with his signing. Just look at him now. It is possible that some people on here want instant success and a team that wins every game and score bag full of goals. I wouldn't 'shed' any tears over it!!
[quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: Excellent performance, proving we can mix it, even with the likes of Liverpool. But as we all know, it's the usual problems of decent passes and supply. Some want to show their ignorance regards Rantie, that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, even if it's misplaced and pretty ignorant in it's delivery, as poor as the service TK get's on the pitch in fact. Some wouldn't know quality if it bit them. Once the team learn to play to his strengths, once he starts getting the service his sort of forward requires, once he's settled in to a new country, way of living and playing, once he's had a close season (because he's not had a break as such in a year), once he's actually receiving the ball instead of having to chase around trying to find it, once people get off his back and actually support him, THEN, then judge him!! and IF after all that, he doesn't come up with the goods, THEN I'll concede buying him was a mistake, but that's a VERY long way off!! Some of you should be ashamed, call yourselves supporters?? you don't know the meaning of the word. Stop whinging and look at the facts and support the guy!![/p][/quote]I agree afcbpete EH is looking beyond 2013-14 season and whilst Rantie seem not a good signing at the moment he will fulfill his role once EH finds an appropriate partner for him. I wonder how the Burnley supporters greeted the arrival of Ings when EH signed him. I am sure some would have disagreed with his signing. Just look at him now. It is possible that some people on here want instant success and a team that wins every game and score bag full of goals. I wouldn't 'shed' any tears over it!! nonnogeppetto
  • Score: 2

10:11pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Afcbpete says...

nonnogeppetto wrote:
Afcbpete wrote:
Excellent performance, proving we can mix it, even with the likes of Liverpool. But as we all know, it's the usual problems of decent passes and supply. Some want to show their ignorance regards Rantie, that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, even if it's misplaced and pretty ignorant in it's delivery, as poor as the service TK get's on the pitch in fact. Some wouldn't know quality if it bit them. Once the team learn to play to his strengths, once he starts getting the service his sort of forward requires, once he's settled in to a new country, way of living and playing, once he's had a close season (because he's not had a break as such in a year), once he's actually receiving the ball instead of having to chase around trying to find it, once people get off his back and actually support him, THEN, then judge him!! and IF after all that, he doesn't come up with the goods, THEN I'll concede buying him was a mistake, but that's a VERY long way off!!
Some of you should be ashamed, call yourselves supporters?? you don't know the meaning of the word. Stop whinging and look at the facts and support the guy!!
I agree afcbpete EH is looking beyond 2013-14 season and whilst Rantie seem not a good signing at the moment he will fulfill his role once EH finds an appropriate partner for him. I wonder how the Burnley supporters greeted the arrival of Ings when EH signed him. I am sure some would have disagreed with his signing. Just look at him now. It is possible that some people on here want instant success and a team that wins every game and score bag full of goals. I wouldn't 'shed' any tears over it!!
Eddie was coming in for quite a bit of stick. Ings then broke his leg, and then having paid around £1m for Shackell, who I believe also got injured, that pretty well scuppered Eddie's plans. Strange that with both of them, plus many other Howe signings Burnley are having a very successful season, without taking anything away form Dyche. As we regularly see on here, plus posts elsewhere, it's easy to slag people off, as some Burnley fans showed last season, but look at the facts, and things fall into place, a few simply refuse to do that....
[quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: Excellent performance, proving we can mix it, even with the likes of Liverpool. But as we all know, it's the usual problems of decent passes and supply. Some want to show their ignorance regards Rantie, that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, even if it's misplaced and pretty ignorant in it's delivery, as poor as the service TK get's on the pitch in fact. Some wouldn't know quality if it bit them. Once the team learn to play to his strengths, once he starts getting the service his sort of forward requires, once he's settled in to a new country, way of living and playing, once he's had a close season (because he's not had a break as such in a year), once he's actually receiving the ball instead of having to chase around trying to find it, once people get off his back and actually support him, THEN, then judge him!! and IF after all that, he doesn't come up with the goods, THEN I'll concede buying him was a mistake, but that's a VERY long way off!! Some of you should be ashamed, call yourselves supporters?? you don't know the meaning of the word. Stop whinging and look at the facts and support the guy!![/p][/quote]I agree afcbpete EH is looking beyond 2013-14 season and whilst Rantie seem not a good signing at the moment he will fulfill his role once EH finds an appropriate partner for him. I wonder how the Burnley supporters greeted the arrival of Ings when EH signed him. I am sure some would have disagreed with his signing. Just look at him now. It is possible that some people on here want instant success and a team that wins every game and score bag full of goals. I wouldn't 'shed' any tears over it!![/p][/quote]Eddie was coming in for quite a bit of stick. Ings then broke his leg, and then having paid around £1m for Shackell, who I believe also got injured, that pretty well scuppered Eddie's plans. Strange that with both of them, plus many other Howe signings Burnley are having a very successful season, without taking anything away form Dyche. As we regularly see on here, plus posts elsewhere, it's easy to slag people off, as some Burnley fans showed last season, but look at the facts, and things fall into place, a few simply refuse to do that.... Afcbpete
  • Score: 1

10:27pm Sun 26 Jan 14

cheeriedriteup says...

Has anyone seen the 360 degrees images on the internet of the AFCB V LFC game, all of the Mitchells box and advertisers are smudged !! Big statement I feel
Has anyone seen the 360 degrees images on the internet of the AFCB V LFC game, all of the Mitchells box and advertisers are smudged !! Big statement I feel cheeriedriteup
  • Score: 3

12:09am Mon 27 Jan 14

parkstoneboy says...

I'm loving all the stuff people have posted on here,
Did anyone notice that every time Suarez touched the ball he got boooed??
WTF was that all about??
I even heard some "fans" booing Sturridge
Totally embarressing when your watching the game with 3 scousers!!
Good luck to Suarez&Sturridge in Brazil...
I'm loving all the stuff people have posted on here, Did anyone notice that every time Suarez touched the ball he got boooed?? WTF was that all about?? I even heard some "fans" booing Sturridge Totally embarressing when your watching the game with 3 scousers!! Good luck to Suarez&Sturridge in Brazil... parkstoneboy
  • Score: 3

1:40am Mon 27 Jan 14

dekayedcherry says...

Having watched the game on TV, I think that was the best performance of possession football I have ever seen. I thought The Cherries were fantastic,especially in the first half when we played some football that had even Liverpool chasing shadows. It may not have had the death or glory attributes of some campaigns in the past but it showed how far we have come as a "footballing side" since the days of "kick & rush". The only drawback to Saturday's game was that we were unable to score, some in part to good defending, some to lucky deflections or adequate goalkeeping but some I have to say to poor choice of options inside the the penalty box. The difference was clearly highlighted by Sturridge who shot across the goalkeeper into the opposite bottom corner of the net ( as most pundits suggest !!), whereas Grabban (who had an excellent game) chose to shoot at the near post, missing the target and skewing wide, perhaps a more difficult shot ??.
It was a day for us of " if only's " with chances & half chances spurned. The good news perhaps for both sides (with games on Tuesday night) was that Now player were obviously injured, apart from Skertel & Surman with a clash of heads and after repair to "war wounds" both continued in play.

As regards the Rantie & Pitman debate, my view ( for what it's worth?) is that Pitman is playing too deep and hasn't got enough pace to cause damage from so far back. He needs to be in the box finishing off moves, not creating the moves or taking the corners. On that score we definately need to take MORE LONG CORNERS to the height of our central defenders and Francis.
As regard TK I to do not think we play to his strengths which is his pace and close ball control. I was disappointed to note that we played balls into him at waist or head height with a "big" defender just brushing through him, surely a better ball would have been over or past the defender for Rantie to spin his man ane beat him for speed. Both Skertel and Toure were suspect against pace,as Grabban clearly showed inthe first half,yet we chose to play the ball patiently across the box time and time again allowing their defenders to face the ball with our forwards with their backs to goal. When we got behind them we caused them trouble and created chances. Do we have an "attack" coach ??.

If we play as well on Tuesday night against Huddersfield and can convert our chances then should be 3pts in the bag !!. UTC.
Having watched the game on TV, I think that was the best performance of possession football I have ever seen. I thought The Cherries were fantastic,especially in the first half when we played some football that had even Liverpool chasing shadows. It may not have had the death or glory attributes of some campaigns in the past but it showed how far we have come as a "footballing side" since the days of "kick & rush". The only drawback to Saturday's game was that we were unable to score, some in part to good defending, some to lucky deflections or adequate goalkeeping but some I have to say to poor choice of options inside the the penalty box. The difference was clearly highlighted by Sturridge who shot across the goalkeeper into the opposite bottom corner of the net ( as most pundits suggest !!), whereas Grabban (who had an excellent game) chose to shoot at the near post, missing the target and skewing wide, perhaps a more difficult shot ??. It was a day for us of " if only's " with chances & half chances spurned. The good news perhaps for both sides (with games on Tuesday night) was that Now player were obviously injured, apart from Skertel & Surman with a clash of heads and after repair to "war wounds" both continued in play. As regards the Rantie & Pitman debate, my view ( for what it's worth?) is that Pitman is playing too deep and hasn't got enough pace to cause damage from so far back. He needs to be in the box finishing off moves, not creating the moves or taking the corners. On that score we definately need to take MORE LONG CORNERS to the height of our central defenders and Francis. As regard TK I to do not think we play to his strengths which is his pace and close ball control. I was disappointed to note that we played balls into him at waist or head height with a "big" defender just brushing through him, surely a better ball would have been over or past the defender for Rantie to spin his man ane beat him for speed. Both Skertel and Toure were suspect against pace,as Grabban clearly showed inthe first half,yet we chose to play the ball patiently across the box time and time again allowing their defenders to face the ball with our forwards with their backs to goal. When we got behind them we caused them trouble and created chances. Do we have an "attack" coach ??. If we play as well on Tuesday night against Huddersfield and can convert our chances then should be 3pts in the bag !!. UTC. dekayedcherry
  • Score: 6

7:34am Mon 27 Jan 14

afcb-mark says...

Nat1234 wrote:
Everyone is saying it now apart from a few RANTIE AND PITTMAN die hards . (but of cause those people can't know a thing about strikers ) that we are a very good footballing team that could get in the prem . IF ONLY WE HAD 2 GOOD STRIKERS . Eddie must realise by now that he has made one big mistake in buying rantie . But come on Eddie everyone makes mistakes .. Just get rid of him . Even bring back tubbs , he is a much better player than rantie ...
I believe we already have one good striker and that's Rantie. He's very quick and has great ball control. but the one thing he doesn't have is someone to assist him in playing to his strengths. Grabban plays better on the wing and is excellent at holding the ball up, what we need is a quality, proven striker. We've all been saying this for weeks and the same thing was said by the 'experts' after Saturday's game. I realise good forwards are not easy to come by and don't come cheap, but it would be money well spent and complete what is a very good team.
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: Everyone is saying it now apart from a few RANTIE AND PITTMAN die hards . (but of cause those people can't know a thing about strikers ) that we are a very good footballing team that could get in the prem . IF ONLY WE HAD 2 GOOD STRIKERS . Eddie must realise by now that he has made one big mistake in buying rantie . But come on Eddie everyone makes mistakes .. Just get rid of him . Even bring back tubbs , he is a much better player than rantie ...[/p][/quote]I believe we already have one good striker and that's Rantie. He's very quick and has great ball control. but the one thing he doesn't have is someone to assist him in playing to his strengths. Grabban plays better on the wing and is excellent at holding the ball up, what we need is a quality, proven striker. We've all been saying this for weeks and the same thing was said by the 'experts' after Saturday's game. I realise good forwards are not easy to come by and don't come cheap, but it would be money well spent and complete what is a very good team. afcb-mark
  • Score: 1

9:37am Mon 27 Jan 14

devon fan says...

the strikers are always the culprits when a team fails to score, but when you have a team with at least 4 proven goalscorers and they all fail to score at the same time you have a big problem, with AFCB the midfied are contributing little or nothing in terms of goals Arter showed last season he is capable of reching double figures, I feel you have to look at the system and ask are the players capable of producing what Eddie wants from them, he has set a system which he hopes will provide more cover for the defence but it is to the detriment of our forward play
the strikers are always the culprits when a team fails to score, but when you have a team with at least 4 proven goalscorers and they all fail to score at the same time you have a big problem, with AFCB the midfied are contributing little or nothing in terms of goals Arter showed last season he is capable of reching double figures, I feel you have to look at the system and ask are the players capable of producing what Eddie wants from them, he has set a system which he hopes will provide more cover for the defence but it is to the detriment of our forward play devon fan
  • Score: 1

11:06am Mon 27 Jan 14

ranger_bob says...

Being neither a Bournemouth (although I have been to a couple of games in the past year) or Liverpool fan I watched the game as a purist football fan.

I agree that Bournemouth had the run of play but were very sadly lacking in their finishing (much as they were against Birmingham at Christmas). We watched as time and time again the ball was put into the area but no one looked like they going to hit the back of the net.

Liverpool, whilst giving a lacklustre performance, did everything that was required of them. They had two chances and took them to great effect. They also looked that if it was required they had a couple of gears to go up and get the required result. I doubt very much if the penalty had been awarded the final outcome would have changed. I still believe Liverpool would have taken the honours.
Being neither a Bournemouth (although I have been to a couple of games in the past year) or Liverpool fan I watched the game as a purist football fan. I agree that Bournemouth had the run of play but were very sadly lacking in their finishing (much as they were against Birmingham at Christmas). We watched as time and time again the ball was put into the area but no one looked like they going to hit the back of the net. Liverpool, whilst giving a lacklustre performance, did everything that was required of them. They had two chances and took them to great effect. They also looked that if it was required they had a couple of gears to go up and get the required result. I doubt very much if the penalty had been awarded the final outcome would have changed. I still believe Liverpool would have taken the honours. ranger_bob
  • Score: 0

11:31am Mon 27 Jan 14

In Absentia says...

ranger_bob wrote:
Being neither a Bournemouth (although I have been to a couple of games in the past year) or Liverpool fan I watched the game as a purist football fan. I agree that Bournemouth had the run of play but were very sadly lacking in their finishing (much as they were against Birmingham at Christmas). We watched as time and time again the ball was put into the area but no one looked like they going to hit the back of the net. Liverpool, whilst giving a lacklustre performance, did everything that was required of them. They had two chances and took them to great effect. They also looked that if it was required they had a couple of gears to go up and get the required result. I doubt very much if the penalty had been awarded the final outcome would have changed. I still believe Liverpool would have taken the honours.
I agree with you entirely. We were allowed to play nice football in front of Liverpool, but they did just enough and still won 2-0. A great occasion for AFCB and personally I thought we looked far better down the left with Pugh playing than Fraser, he just hasn't got the physical presence needed at this level.
[quote][p][bold]ranger_bob[/bold] wrote: Being neither a Bournemouth (although I have been to a couple of games in the past year) or Liverpool fan I watched the game as a purist football fan. I agree that Bournemouth had the run of play but were very sadly lacking in their finishing (much as they were against Birmingham at Christmas). We watched as time and time again the ball was put into the area but no one looked like they going to hit the back of the net. Liverpool, whilst giving a lacklustre performance, did everything that was required of them. They had two chances and took them to great effect. They also looked that if it was required they had a couple of gears to go up and get the required result. I doubt very much if the penalty had been awarded the final outcome would have changed. I still believe Liverpool would have taken the honours.[/p][/quote]I agree with you entirely. We were allowed to play nice football in front of Liverpool, but they did just enough and still won 2-0. A great occasion for AFCB and personally I thought we looked far better down the left with Pugh playing than Fraser, he just hasn't got the physical presence needed at this level. In Absentia
  • Score: 0

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