AFC Bournemouth: Fletcher saddened to see FA Cup 'devalued'

Bournemouth Echo: LEGEND: Former Cherries hero Steve Fletcher LEGEND: Former Cherries hero Steve Fletcher

FORMER Cherries star Steve Fletcher – whose late grandfather won the FA Cup – says he is saddened to see the famous competition being devalued.

Jack Howe’s treasured medal from 1946 takes pride of place in the Fletcher family home in Hartlepool, the left-back helping Derby to a 4-1 win over Charlton at Wembley, a final also remembered for the ball bursting.

The FA Cup hit the headlines earlier this month when Aston Villa boss Paul Lambert said he felt it was an inconvenience to some Premier League managers, with Newcastle’s Alan Pardew sympathising with his counterpart.

Fletcher, a boyhood Liverpool supporter, will be hoping Cherries can overcome Burton Albion to set up a fourth round meeting with the Merseyside giants later this month.

The 41-year-old told the Daily Echo: “As a kid growing up supporting Liverpool in the 80s, winning the FA Cup was almost as big as winning the league title. The final was the biggest day in the sporting calendar and you would sit all day in front of the telly watching the coverage.

“Slowly but surely, and with all the money coming into the game, the competition has diminished. The priority now in every division seems to be with staying up and, the higher you go, the less important the FA Cup seems to become.

“It is sad that the greatest domestic cup competition in the world has been devalued and is nowhere near as important as it once was. I realise jobs are on the line and the vast riches in the game dictate that survival is the main aim for most clubs, especially in the top flight.

“I think the passion is still there with the supporters and, if you were to ask every player, particularly the English ones, I think they would say it means a lot to them.”

Fletcher, who works on the scouting staff and in an ambassadorial role at Dean Court, added: “To be honest, I don’t know what the answer is. Some managers say it gets in the way of the league and I understand nobody wants to be playing 55 to 60 games a season.

“There are pros and cons for both sides of the argument and Wigan are a prime example. They won the cup last season and were relegated and I am sure there were mixed feelings about that.

“I just hate to see it devalued because some of my best memories as a player were in the FA Cup. I went to Derby recently and there is a photo in the main reception of my granddad walking round Wembley holding aloft the captain with the cup. Seeing that filled me with pride.”

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6:35am Tue 14 Jan 14

pokesdown1 says...

Didn`t this play the rezzies mentality start when hoders,Man U ,shot off to South America instead of defending the cup?
Didn`t this play the rezzies mentality start when hoders,Man U ,shot off to South America instead of defending the cup? pokesdown1

7:57am Tue 14 Jan 14

Solentcherry says...

Your right to feel proud Fletch.
Still can't believe that Manu were allowed to "opt out" of the FA cup a few years ago. They should have been banned for good. Absolutely shameful for the club and authorities involved.
Your right to feel proud Fletch. Still can't believe that Manu were allowed to "opt out" of the FA cup a few years ago. They should have been banned for good. Absolutely shameful for the club and authorities involved. Solentcherry

9:10am Tue 14 Jan 14

cherrygood says...

It's gone downhill since it ceased to be the only live club game of the season.
It's gone downhill since it ceased to be the only live club game of the season. cherrygood

9:11am Tue 14 Jan 14

jontee says...

I couldn't agree more with Fletch.
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I can remember the time when clubs would field weak teams in league games when a big FA Cup tie was coming up, and getting fined for it ! How times change.
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Therein would lie the answer. I think clubs should be penalised for deliberately fielding weak sides, in any competitive game. Fines won't work. Points deduction would be the only language they understand. if it might cost them a place in Europe or the Premier League, they would think twice.
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Brian Clough would never deliberately have sent out an under strength side.
I couldn't agree more with Fletch. . I can remember the time when clubs would field weak teams in league games when a big FA Cup tie was coming up, and getting fined for it ! How times change. . Therein would lie the answer. I think clubs should be penalised for deliberately fielding weak sides, in any competitive game. Fines won't work. Points deduction would be the only language they understand. if it might cost them a place in Europe or the Premier League, they would think twice. . Brian Clough would never deliberately have sent out an under strength side. jontee

9:44am Tue 14 Jan 14

molbol says...

Solentcherry wrote:
Your right to feel proud Fletch.
Still can't believe that Manu were allowed to "opt out" of the FA cup a few years ago. They should have been banned for good. Absolutely shameful for the club and authorities involved.
Man U opting out is an urban myth. FIFA wanted to develop the World Club Cup and i think you'll find that the FA were needed to be seen supporting it big time; given they wanted to host the 2006 World Cup.

It turned out to be fruitless anyway but if 'England' hadn't represented 'Europe' at said World Club Cup, it certainly wouldn't have gone down well.

Also, Man U did not simply opt out - they requested their tie be delayed or be allowed to field a weakened team; a request denied. Funny really how since then; all clubs play second string sides. It's bad enough when the teams playing in Europe do it, but it sticks in my gullet to see mediocre teams (like Stoke, Saints etc) devalue it, especially as it is their only serious chance of silverware.

Anyway; back to the real issue; here's hoping for a good performance and comfortable win tonight. UTC!
[quote][p][bold]Solentcherry[/bold] wrote: Your right to feel proud Fletch. Still can't believe that Manu were allowed to "opt out" of the FA cup a few years ago. They should have been banned for good. Absolutely shameful for the club and authorities involved.[/p][/quote]Man U opting out is an urban myth. FIFA wanted to develop the World Club Cup and i think you'll find that the FA were needed to be seen supporting it big time; given they wanted to host the 2006 World Cup. It turned out to be fruitless anyway but if 'England' hadn't represented 'Europe' at said World Club Cup, it certainly wouldn't have gone down well. Also, Man U did not simply opt out - they requested their tie be delayed or be allowed to field a weakened team; a request denied. Funny really how since then; all clubs play second string sides. It's bad enough when the teams playing in Europe do it, but it sticks in my gullet to see mediocre teams (like Stoke, Saints etc) devalue it, especially as it is their only serious chance of silverware. Anyway; back to the real issue; here's hoping for a good performance and comfortable win tonight. UTC! molbol

10:32am Tue 14 Jan 14

jontee says...

Sorry, i know this is nothing to do with the thread, but David Moyes' recent much publicised comments about referees made me think just how lucky we are to have a manager like Eddie. He would never lower himself to make remarks like that. He is an officer and a gentleman. What a wonderful ambassador for the club, and indeed the game.
Sorry, i know this is nothing to do with the thread, but David Moyes' recent much publicised comments about referees made me think just how lucky we are to have a manager like Eddie. He would never lower himself to make remarks like that. He is an officer and a gentleman. What a wonderful ambassador for the club, and indeed the game. jontee

11:02am Tue 14 Jan 14

nickynoodah says...

Its better to opt out than be knocked out
if you know what I mean.
Its better to opt out than be knocked out if you know what I mean. nickynoodah

11:20am Tue 14 Jan 14

Noel. says...

molbol wrote:
Solentcherry wrote:
Your right to feel proud Fletch.
Still can't believe that Manu were allowed to "opt out" of the FA cup a few years ago. They should have been banned for good. Absolutely shameful for the club and authorities involved.
Man U opting out is an urban myth. FIFA wanted to develop the World Club Cup and i think you'll find that the FA were needed to be seen supporting it big time; given they wanted to host the 2006 World Cup.

It turned out to be fruitless anyway but if 'England' hadn't represented 'Europe' at said World Club Cup, it certainly wouldn't have gone down well.

Also, Man U did not simply opt out - they requested their tie be delayed or be allowed to field a weakened team; a request denied. Funny really how since then; all clubs play second string sides. It's bad enough when the teams playing in Europe do it, but it sticks in my gullet to see mediocre teams (like Stoke, Saints etc) devalue it, especially as it is their only serious chance of silverware.

Anyway; back to the real issue; here's hoping for a good performance and comfortable win tonight. UTC!
Quite true molbol, I was going to say the same thing.

As ManU were going to the World Club Cup in support of Englands World Cup bid you would have thought the FA might have made an exception and delayed the tie as requested or brokered a gentleman's agreement that any PL side playing ManU reserves whilst the first team was in Brazil also fielded a reserve side. Unfortunately the FA, as too often took a short-sightedly view and adopted a dog in the manger stance and refused. As you say because of that we now have the sorry state of affairs we do now.
[quote][p][bold]molbol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Solentcherry[/bold] wrote: Your right to feel proud Fletch. Still can't believe that Manu were allowed to "opt out" of the FA cup a few years ago. They should have been banned for good. Absolutely shameful for the club and authorities involved.[/p][/quote]Man U opting out is an urban myth. FIFA wanted to develop the World Club Cup and i think you'll find that the FA were needed to be seen supporting it big time; given they wanted to host the 2006 World Cup. It turned out to be fruitless anyway but if 'England' hadn't represented 'Europe' at said World Club Cup, it certainly wouldn't have gone down well. Also, Man U did not simply opt out - they requested their tie be delayed or be allowed to field a weakened team; a request denied. Funny really how since then; all clubs play second string sides. It's bad enough when the teams playing in Europe do it, but it sticks in my gullet to see mediocre teams (like Stoke, Saints etc) devalue it, especially as it is their only serious chance of silverware. Anyway; back to the real issue; here's hoping for a good performance and comfortable win tonight. UTC![/p][/quote]Quite true molbol, I was going to say the same thing. As ManU were going to the World Club Cup in support of Englands World Cup bid you would have thought the FA might have made an exception and delayed the tie as requested or brokered a gentleman's agreement that any PL side playing ManU reserves whilst the first team was in Brazil also fielded a reserve side. Unfortunately the FA, as too often took a short-sightedly view and adopted a dog in the manger stance and refused. As you say because of that we now have the sorry state of affairs we do now. Noel.

11:22am Tue 14 Jan 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Fletch is absolutely correct and those of you who subscribe to Sky must share a proportion of the responsibility for such a sad state of affairs.
Jontee's comments re Eddie Howe are also correct. I would include Oscar Garcia of Brighton in that as well. Both top men.
Fletch is absolutely correct and those of you who subscribe to Sky must share a proportion of the responsibility for such a sad state of affairs. Jontee's comments re Eddie Howe are also correct. I would include Oscar Garcia of Brighton in that as well. Both top men. Joel'sGrandad

11:33am Tue 14 Jan 14

Noel. says...

jontee wrote:
Sorry, i know this is nothing to do with the thread, but David Moyes' recent much publicised comments about referees made me think just how lucky we are to have a manager like Eddie. He would never lower himself to make remarks like that. He is an officer and a gentleman. What a wonderful ambassador for the club, and indeed the game.
Yes jontee, we have a gem in Eddie Howe.

However, I must also agree with David Moyes having seen some of the performances of referee's and linesmen at Dean Court. Rantie being pushed to the ground with two hands by his marker in one recent match, no other player with in 20 yards and the linesman having an unobstructed view and he still missed it springs to mind.

I sit in my seat and laugh at some of the atrocious decisions made by officials in situations like the one I describe. So I can understand where Moyes is coming from, even though I don't have the pressure of knowing a bad decision by a ref could cost me my job as some managers have found.
[quote][p][bold]jontee[/bold] wrote: Sorry, i know this is nothing to do with the thread, but David Moyes' recent much publicised comments about referees made me think just how lucky we are to have a manager like Eddie. He would never lower himself to make remarks like that. He is an officer and a gentleman. What a wonderful ambassador for the club, and indeed the game.[/p][/quote]Yes jontee, we have a gem in Eddie Howe. However, I must also agree with David Moyes having seen some of the performances of referee's and linesmen at Dean Court. Rantie being pushed to the ground with two hands by his marker in one recent match, no other player with in 20 yards and the linesman having an unobstructed view and he still missed it springs to mind. I sit in my seat and laugh at some of the atrocious decisions made by officials in situations like the one I describe. So I can understand where Moyes is coming from, even though I don't have the pressure of knowing a bad decision by a ref could cost me my job as some managers have found. Noel.

1:14pm Tue 14 Jan 14

abc100 says...

So Wes has left for Rotherham, if any truth in the rumour of Grabbon going to the seaweed then it leaves us terribly short up front, sure Eddie has something up his sleeve, hope it's Leon Clarke!!!
So Wes has left for Rotherham, if any truth in the rumour of Grabbon going to the seaweed then it leaves us terribly short up front, sure Eddie has something up his sleeve, hope it's Leon Clarke!!! abc100

1:25pm Tue 14 Jan 14

hotdog350 says...

abc100 wrote:
So Wes has left for Rotherham, if any truth in the rumour of Grabbon going to the seaweed then it leaves us terribly short up front, sure Eddie has something up his sleeve, hope it's Leon Clarke!!!
I don't get why you would want Leon Clarke to come here? Has he played and scored in the Championship? I suggest you go onto youtube and see how he carried on at Swindon. Why is he currently in league 2 and has never settled anywhere. Also it is rumoured that he has the same tastes as Mc Dermottt. Now I ask you is he going to fit in to Eddie Howes squad?
[quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: So Wes has left for Rotherham, if any truth in the rumour of Grabbon going to the seaweed then it leaves us terribly short up front, sure Eddie has something up his sleeve, hope it's Leon Clarke!!![/p][/quote]I don't get why you would want Leon Clarke to come here? Has he played and scored in the Championship? I suggest you go onto youtube and see how he carried on at Swindon. Why is he currently in league 2 and has never settled anywhere. Also it is rumoured that he has the same tastes as Mc Dermottt. Now I ask you is he going to fit in to Eddie Howes squad? hotdog350

1:38pm Tue 14 Jan 14

swanagecherrie says...

Thomas gone to Rotherham squad thinning nicely now who's coming in I wonder ???
Thomas gone to Rotherham squad thinning nicely now who's coming in I wonder ??? swanagecherrie

1:42pm Tue 14 Jan 14

ASM says...

We're lucky IF we beat Burton, that Brendon Rodders played Gel' boy and Suarez against Oldham in the third round. So if we beat Burton (who are currently flying in second place and will probably be more up for the game and under less pressure being the underdogs) Liverpool will be a mega reward and day out. The magic is still there big Fletch.
We're lucky IF we beat Burton, that Brendon Rodders played Gel' boy and Suarez against Oldham in the third round. So if we beat Burton (who are currently flying in second place and will probably be more up for the game and under less pressure being the underdogs) Liverpool will be a mega reward and day out. The magic is still there big Fletch. ASM

1:48pm Tue 14 Jan 14

abc100 says...

Firstly the reason I want him is because he has regularly scored goals, no I don't believe he has played and scored in the championship, I also saw how he carried on with paolo do canio, don't think I'm wrong in thinking he won't be last player to have a problem with di canio especially as there was previous between the two of them, also not currently playing in league 2, Coventry play in league 1 and I definatly think he can make the step up just like Grabbon did when he struggled at time last season ( dont know if you saw him last season ) or you're one of our new found supporters, a rumour about a footballer from Lincoln , must be true then!!!! Will he fit into Eddies squad? I don't know him personally ( you might ) he scores goals and we need a forward, yeah I think he will fit in with the way we play, have we got the money available to buy a proven championship player that will score 20ish goals a season I don't know, will Eddie want to take a chance on a loan player that has only probably played in the reserves or U21, maybe but it's a big risk, hope I have answered all you questions and given you something to think about before tonight's game, I assume you go to games ?? Anything else I can help you with just let me know, I'm always happy to help.
Firstly the reason I want him is because he has regularly scored goals, no I don't believe he has played and scored in the championship, I also saw how he carried on with paolo do canio, don't think I'm wrong in thinking he won't be last player to have a problem with di canio especially as there was previous between the two of them, also not currently playing in league 2, Coventry play in league 1 and I definatly think he can make the step up just like Grabbon did when he struggled at time last season ( dont know if you saw him last season ) or you're one of our new found supporters, a rumour about a footballer from Lincoln , must be true then!!!! Will he fit into Eddies squad? I don't know him personally ( you might ) he scores goals and we need a forward, yeah I think he will fit in with the way we play, have we got the money available to buy a proven championship player that will score 20ish goals a season I don't know, will Eddie want to take a chance on a loan player that has only probably played in the reserves or U21, maybe but it's a big risk, hope I have answered all you questions and given you something to think about before tonight's game, I assume you go to games ?? Anything else I can help you with just let me know, I'm always happy to help. abc100

2:13pm Tue 14 Jan 14

TedMacsCherryPants says...

^
Tut, Tut abc100, whatever comments someone has to make there's not much point in accusing of being a "new" supporter. The club is growing, we need all the supporters we can get and being elitist isn't going to encourage people to join in.

Apart from that Leon Clarke sounds worth a punt to me, but on a short contract initially.
Regards
^ Tut, Tut abc100, whatever comments someone has to make there's not much point in accusing of being a "new" supporter. The club is growing, we need all the supporters we can get and being elitist isn't going to encourage people to join in. Apart from that Leon Clarke sounds worth a punt to me, but on a short contract initially. Regards TedMacsCherryPants

2:27pm Tue 14 Jan 14

jontee says...

We don't know if Grabban is going, but Eddie will have a good idea and he must realise 2 things:
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First we need another striker, hopefully someone who can give us a different option and make us less predictable. We need a plan B.
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Second, Rantie is a 'dud'. Sorry Eddie, you're a fantastic manager but you can't win 'em all. We have to accept that he will just run his contract out because I can't see any other club wanting him, even on loan. He is a striker who doesn't score, and doesn't even look like scoring. The only chance of unloading him is perhaps to a foreign club with a different style who think they can use him, and if that chance comes up we should cut our losses, and we will lose on this, big time.
We don't know if Grabban is going, but Eddie will have a good idea and he must realise 2 things: . First we need another striker, hopefully someone who can give us a different option and make us less predictable. We need a plan B. . Second, Rantie is a 'dud'. Sorry Eddie, you're a fantastic manager but you can't win 'em all. We have to accept that he will just run his contract out because I can't see any other club wanting him, even on loan. He is a striker who doesn't score, and doesn't even look like scoring. The only chance of unloading him is perhaps to a foreign club with a different style who think they can use him, and if that chance comes up we should cut our losses, and we will lose on this, big time. jontee

2:34pm Tue 14 Jan 14

abc100 says...

TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
^ Tut, Tut abc100, whatever comments someone has to make there's not much point in accusing of being a "new" supporter. The club is growing, we need all the supporters we can get and being elitist isn't going to encourage people to join in. Apart from that Leon Clarke sounds worth a punt to me, but on a short contract initially. Regards
No accusations from me, all new supporters welcome as far as I'm concerned, I only asked the question so I could explain my answers properly !!!!
[quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: ^ Tut, Tut abc100, whatever comments someone has to make there's not much point in accusing of being a "new" supporter. The club is growing, we need all the supporters we can get and being elitist isn't going to encourage people to join in. Apart from that Leon Clarke sounds worth a punt to me, but on a short contract initially. Regards[/p][/quote]No accusations from me, all new supporters welcome as far as I'm concerned, I only asked the question so I could explain my answers properly !!!! abc100

3:03pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Noel. says...

jontee wrote:
We don't know if Grabban is going, but Eddie will have a good idea and he must realise 2 things:
.
First we need another striker, hopefully someone who can give us a different option and make us less predictable. We need a plan B.
.
Second, Rantie is a 'dud'. Sorry Eddie, you're a fantastic manager but you can't win 'em all. We have to accept that he will just run his contract out because I can't see any other club wanting him, even on loan. He is a striker who doesn't score, and doesn't even look like scoring. The only chance of unloading him is perhaps to a foreign club with a different style who think they can use him, and if that chance comes up we should cut our losses, and we will lose on this, big time.
Sorry jontee I have to disagree with you about Rantie.

He may not be scoring goals at the moment, but I've certainly noticed that when he's come on as sub a somewhat lifeles performance has suddenly perked up, and the opposite happen that a lively team went dead when he came off and Pitman replaced him - as in the match against Derby I think it was.

Fletch is a hero here, yet he didn't score that many goals. His presence and combative nature shook up defenders and made things happen allowing others like Pitman to score a bucketload. Are you going to call Fletch a 'dud'?

I agree we need another striker, and a big target man in the Fletch mould would be what we want to give Rantie someone to play off, and possibly be used for plan be if the Rantie/Grabban/Pitma
n combo isn't working.
[quote][p][bold]jontee[/bold] wrote: We don't know if Grabban is going, but Eddie will have a good idea and he must realise 2 things: . First we need another striker, hopefully someone who can give us a different option and make us less predictable. We need a plan B. . Second, Rantie is a 'dud'. Sorry Eddie, you're a fantastic manager but you can't win 'em all. We have to accept that he will just run his contract out because I can't see any other club wanting him, even on loan. He is a striker who doesn't score, and doesn't even look like scoring. The only chance of unloading him is perhaps to a foreign club with a different style who think they can use him, and if that chance comes up we should cut our losses, and we will lose on this, big time.[/p][/quote]Sorry jontee I have to disagree with you about Rantie. He may not be scoring goals at the moment, but I've certainly noticed that when he's come on as sub a somewhat lifeles performance has suddenly perked up, and the opposite happen that a lively team went dead when he came off and Pitman replaced him - as in the match against Derby I think it was. Fletch is a hero here, yet he didn't score that many goals. His presence and combative nature shook up defenders and made things happen allowing others like Pitman to score a bucketload. Are you going to call Fletch a 'dud'? I agree we need another striker, and a big target man in the Fletch mould would be what we want to give Rantie someone to play off, and possibly be used for plan be if the Rantie/Grabban/Pitma n combo isn't working. Noel.

3:26pm Tue 14 Jan 14

matt68 says...

hotdog350 wrote:
abc100 wrote:
So Wes has left for Rotherham, if any truth in the rumour of Grabbon going to the seaweed then it leaves us terribly short up front, sure Eddie has something up his sleeve, hope it's Leon Clarke!!!
I don't get why you would want Leon Clarke to come here? Has he played and scored in the Championship? I suggest you go onto youtube and see how he carried on at Swindon. Why is he currently in league 2 and has never settled anywhere. Also it is rumoured that he has the same tastes as Mc Dermottt. Now I ask you is he going to fit in to Eddie Howes squad?
actually league 1 and unlike mcdermott he can and does play and score goals!
[quote][p][bold]hotdog350[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: So Wes has left for Rotherham, if any truth in the rumour of Grabbon going to the seaweed then it leaves us terribly short up front, sure Eddie has something up his sleeve, hope it's Leon Clarke!!![/p][/quote]I don't get why you would want Leon Clarke to come here? Has he played and scored in the Championship? I suggest you go onto youtube and see how he carried on at Swindon. Why is he currently in league 2 and has never settled anywhere. Also it is rumoured that he has the same tastes as Mc Dermottt. Now I ask you is he going to fit in to Eddie Howes squad?[/p][/quote]actually league 1 and unlike mcdermott he can and does play and score goals! matt68

3:35pm Tue 14 Jan 14

miltonarcher says...

molbol wrote:
Solentcherry wrote:
Your right to feel proud Fletch.
Still can't believe that Manu were allowed to "opt out" of the FA cup a few years ago. They should have been banned for good. Absolutely shameful for the club and authorities involved.
Man U opting out is an urban myth. FIFA wanted to develop the World Club Cup and i think you'll find that the FA were needed to be seen supporting it big time; given they wanted to host the 2006 World Cup.

It turned out to be fruitless anyway but if 'England' hadn't represented 'Europe' at said World Club Cup, it certainly wouldn't have gone down well.

Also, Man U did not simply opt out - they requested their tie be delayed or be allowed to field a weakened team; a request denied. Funny really how since then; all clubs play second string sides. It's bad enough when the teams playing in Europe do it, but it sticks in my gullet to see mediocre teams (like Stoke, Saints etc) devalue it, especially as it is their only serious chance of silverware.

Anyway; back to the real issue; here's hoping for a good performance and comfortable win tonight. UTC!
Good grief, if we are "mediocre" what does that make afcb??? 9th in the Prem, mediocre? Perhaps it would improve our status if we conceded 44 goals like guess who. Or perhaps we could match the proud cup record of a certain south coast outfit dumped out of the cups by the likes of Tamworth, Blyth Spartans, Accrington Stanley (when they were non-league) and various othe rag bag lower league outfits.

I understand afcb have been preparing for the visit of Liverpool. What arrogance. Come On Burton !!!!
[quote][p][bold]molbol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Solentcherry[/bold] wrote: Your right to feel proud Fletch. Still can't believe that Manu were allowed to "opt out" of the FA cup a few years ago. They should have been banned for good. Absolutely shameful for the club and authorities involved.[/p][/quote]Man U opting out is an urban myth. FIFA wanted to develop the World Club Cup and i think you'll find that the FA were needed to be seen supporting it big time; given they wanted to host the 2006 World Cup. It turned out to be fruitless anyway but if 'England' hadn't represented 'Europe' at said World Club Cup, it certainly wouldn't have gone down well. Also, Man U did not simply opt out - they requested their tie be delayed or be allowed to field a weakened team; a request denied. Funny really how since then; all clubs play second string sides. It's bad enough when the teams playing in Europe do it, but it sticks in my gullet to see mediocre teams (like Stoke, Saints etc) devalue it, especially as it is their only serious chance of silverware. Anyway; back to the real issue; here's hoping for a good performance and comfortable win tonight. UTC![/p][/quote]Good grief, if we are "mediocre" what does that make afcb??? 9th in the Prem, mediocre? Perhaps it would improve our status if we conceded 44 goals like guess who. Or perhaps we could match the proud cup record of a certain south coast outfit dumped out of the cups by the likes of Tamworth, Blyth Spartans, Accrington Stanley (when they were non-league) and various othe rag bag lower league outfits. I understand afcb have been preparing for the visit of Liverpool. What arrogance. Come On Burton !!!! miltonarcher

3:55pm Tue 14 Jan 14

TedMacsCherryPants says...

^
How we've missed you @rser, just back from job hunting in Romania??
^ How we've missed you @rser, just back from job hunting in Romania?? TedMacsCherryPants

3:56pm Tue 14 Jan 14

molbol says...

Miltonmarcher - You make a fair point & i can see why you would interpret it as much. I missed out the words Premier League when referring to your team as 'mediocre' - I thought that was a compliment; that your club should deem itself too good to bother itself with the FA Cup. When mid table obscurity is your number 1 aim. Fair enough though; 9th is very good compared to most of what has gone before when 17th was seen as a triumph.

And just to show your ineptitude of grasping 'forward planning'; are you naive enough to think that Burton aren't doing the same? 'Be Prepared' - you obviously wasn't a cub scout....maybe a brownie?

And as for forward planning; don't you think Cortese is doing the same for you lot when you make your assault on Europe next season?.............
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Miltonmarcher - You make a fair point & i can see why you would interpret it as much. I missed out the words Premier League when referring to your team as 'mediocre' - I thought that was a compliment; that your club should deem itself too good to bother itself with the FA Cup. When mid table obscurity is your number 1 aim. Fair enough though; 9th is very good compared to most of what has gone before when 17th was seen as a triumph. And just to show your ineptitude of grasping 'forward planning'; are you naive enough to think that Burton aren't doing the same? 'Be Prepared' - you obviously wasn't a cub scout....maybe a brownie? And as for forward planning; don't you think Cortese is doing the same for you lot when you make your assault on Europe next season?............. .... molbol

3:59pm Tue 14 Jan 14

matt68 says...

miltonarcher wrote:
molbol wrote:
Solentcherry wrote:
Your right to feel proud Fletch.
Still can't believe that Manu were allowed to "opt out" of the FA cup a few years ago. They should have been banned for good. Absolutely shameful for the club and authorities involved.
Man U opting out is an urban myth. FIFA wanted to develop the World Club Cup and i think you'll find that the FA were needed to be seen supporting it big time; given they wanted to host the 2006 World Cup.

It turned out to be fruitless anyway but if 'England' hadn't represented 'Europe' at said World Club Cup, it certainly wouldn't have gone down well.

Also, Man U did not simply opt out - they requested their tie be delayed or be allowed to field a weakened team; a request denied. Funny really how since then; all clubs play second string sides. It's bad enough when the teams playing in Europe do it, but it sticks in my gullet to see mediocre teams (like Stoke, Saints etc) devalue it, especially as it is their only serious chance of silverware.

Anyway; back to the real issue; here's hoping for a good performance and comfortable win tonight. UTC!
Good grief, if we are "mediocre" what does that make afcb??? 9th in the Prem, mediocre? Perhaps it would improve our status if we conceded 44 goals like guess who. Or perhaps we could match the proud cup record of a certain south coast outfit dumped out of the cups by the likes of Tamworth, Blyth Spartans, Accrington Stanley (when they were non-league) and various othe rag bag lower league outfits.

I understand afcb have been preparing for the visit of Liverpool. What arrogance. Come On Burton !!!!
Hey k**B if u took the time to read Jason tindalls prematch thoughts they are not preparing for Liverpool just concentrating on Burton oh and by the way see all your glory seeking fans could not be bothered with Burnley typical arrogant t**ts Come on Yeovil i expect there fans will make more noise than yours as usual
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molbol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Solentcherry[/bold] wrote: Your right to feel proud Fletch. Still can't believe that Manu were allowed to "opt out" of the FA cup a few years ago. They should have been banned for good. Absolutely shameful for the club and authorities involved.[/p][/quote]Man U opting out is an urban myth. FIFA wanted to develop the World Club Cup and i think you'll find that the FA were needed to be seen supporting it big time; given they wanted to host the 2006 World Cup. It turned out to be fruitless anyway but if 'England' hadn't represented 'Europe' at said World Club Cup, it certainly wouldn't have gone down well. Also, Man U did not simply opt out - they requested their tie be delayed or be allowed to field a weakened team; a request denied. Funny really how since then; all clubs play second string sides. It's bad enough when the teams playing in Europe do it, but it sticks in my gullet to see mediocre teams (like Stoke, Saints etc) devalue it, especially as it is their only serious chance of silverware. Anyway; back to the real issue; here's hoping for a good performance and comfortable win tonight. UTC![/p][/quote]Good grief, if we are "mediocre" what does that make afcb??? 9th in the Prem, mediocre? Perhaps it would improve our status if we conceded 44 goals like guess who. Or perhaps we could match the proud cup record of a certain south coast outfit dumped out of the cups by the likes of Tamworth, Blyth Spartans, Accrington Stanley (when they were non-league) and various othe rag bag lower league outfits. I understand afcb have been preparing for the visit of Liverpool. What arrogance. Come On Burton !!!![/p][/quote]Hey k**B if u took the time to read Jason tindalls prematch thoughts they are not preparing for Liverpool just concentrating on Burton oh and by the way see all your glory seeking fans could not be bothered with Burnley typical arrogant t**ts Come on Yeovil i expect there fans will make more noise than yours as usual matt68

4:34pm Tue 14 Jan 14

miltonarcher says...

Ok, take the points above re my rant. Anyway, I understand the original fixture v Burton was posponed due to a bit of drizzle. I remember your management team weren't keen on drizzle hence their move back down south from Burnley. Will tonights game also go for a Burton? Its looking like there might be a light shower.
Ok, take the points above re my rant. Anyway, I understand the original fixture v Burton was posponed due to a bit of drizzle. I remember your management team weren't keen on drizzle hence their move back down south from Burnley. Will tonights game also go for a Burton? Its looking like there might be a light shower. miltonarcher

4:40pm Tue 14 Jan 14

kangman2012 says...

TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
^
Tut, Tut abc100, whatever comments someone has to make there's not much point in accusing of being a "new" supporter. The club is growing, we need all the supporters we can get and being elitist isn't going to encourage people to join in.

Apart from that Leon Clarke sounds worth a punt to me, but on a short contract initially.
Regards
Surely Ted the way forward this January would be to sign a quality "second-string" striker from a Premiership club and not hope that a lower league striker can "make the step up". We are a Championship club now and if we intend to remain one we should now start thinking like one. I"m sure that once the majority of the "deadwood" has been cleared out we'll find the squad a lot more leaner and fitter for the remainder of this season and ready to move forward next season - UTC!
[quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: ^ Tut, Tut abc100, whatever comments someone has to make there's not much point in accusing of being a "new" supporter. The club is growing, we need all the supporters we can get and being elitist isn't going to encourage people to join in. Apart from that Leon Clarke sounds worth a punt to me, but on a short contract initially. Regards[/p][/quote]Surely Ted the way forward this January would be to sign a quality "second-string" striker from a Premiership club and not hope that a lower league striker can "make the step up". We are a Championship club now and if we intend to remain one we should now start thinking like one. I"m sure that once the majority of the "deadwood" has been cleared out we'll find the squad a lot more leaner and fitter for the remainder of this season and ready to move forward next season - UTC! kangman2012

5:25pm Tue 14 Jan 14

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road says...

molbol wrote:
Miltonmarcher - You make a fair point & i can see why you would interpret it as much. I missed out the words Premier League when referring to your team as 'mediocre' - I thought that was a compliment; that your club should deem itself too good to bother itself with the FA Cup. When mid table obscurity is your number 1 aim. Fair enough though; 9th is very good compared to most of what has gone before when 17th was seen as a triumph.

And just to show your ineptitude of grasping 'forward planning'; are you naive enough to think that Burton aren't doing the same? 'Be Prepared' - you obviously wasn't a cub scout....maybe a brownie?

And as for forward planning; don't you think Cortese is doing the same for you lot when you make your assault on Europe next season?.............

....
Nice one molbol....... The mincing arser a brownie. Love it.!!!!
[quote][p][bold]molbol[/bold] wrote: Miltonmarcher - You make a fair point & i can see why you would interpret it as much. I missed out the words Premier League when referring to your team as 'mediocre' - I thought that was a compliment; that your club should deem itself too good to bother itself with the FA Cup. When mid table obscurity is your number 1 aim. Fair enough though; 9th is very good compared to most of what has gone before when 17th was seen as a triumph. And just to show your ineptitude of grasping 'forward planning'; are you naive enough to think that Burton aren't doing the same? 'Be Prepared' - you obviously wasn't a cub scout....maybe a brownie? And as for forward planning; don't you think Cortese is doing the same for you lot when you make your assault on Europe next season?............. ....[/p][/quote]Nice one molbol....... The mincing arser a brownie. Love it.!!!! STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road

6:12pm Tue 14 Jan 14

big_afcb_fan says...

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:
molbol wrote:
Miltonmarcher - You make a fair point & i can see why you would interpret it as much. I missed out the words Premier League when referring to your team as 'mediocre' - I thought that was a compliment; that your club should deem itself too good to bother itself with the FA Cup. When mid table obscurity is your number 1 aim. Fair enough though; 9th is very good compared to most of what has gone before when 17th was seen as a triumph.

And just to show your ineptitude of grasping 'forward planning'; are you naive enough to think that Burton aren't doing the same? 'Be Prepared' - you obviously wasn't a cub scout....maybe a brownie?

And as for forward planning; don't you think Cortese is doing the same for you lot when you make your assault on Europe next season?.............


....
Nice one molbol....... The mincing arser a brownie. Love it.!!!!
i smell a sc*mmer on here tonight, as usual he is more obsessed with bournemouth than his own team!!
[quote][p][bold]STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molbol[/bold] wrote: Miltonmarcher - You make a fair point & i can see why you would interpret it as much. I missed out the words Premier League when referring to your team as 'mediocre' - I thought that was a compliment; that your club should deem itself too good to bother itself with the FA Cup. When mid table obscurity is your number 1 aim. Fair enough though; 9th is very good compared to most of what has gone before when 17th was seen as a triumph. And just to show your ineptitude of grasping 'forward planning'; are you naive enough to think that Burton aren't doing the same? 'Be Prepared' - you obviously wasn't a cub scout....maybe a brownie? And as for forward planning; don't you think Cortese is doing the same for you lot when you make your assault on Europe next season?............. ....[/p][/quote]Nice one molbol....... The mincing arser a brownie. Love it.!!!![/p][/quote]i smell a sc*mmer on here tonight, as usual he is more obsessed with bournemouth than his own team!! big_afcb_fan

8:55pm Tue 14 Jan 14

TedMacsCherryPants says...

kangman2012 wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
^
Tut, Tut abc100, whatever comments someone has to make there's not much point in accusing of being a "new" supporter. The club is growing, we need all the supporters we can get and being elitist isn't going to encourage people to join in.

Apart from that Leon Clarke sounds worth a punt to me, but on a short contract initially.
Regards
Surely Ted the way forward this January would be to sign a quality "second-string" striker from a Premiership club and not hope that a lower league striker can "make the step up". We are a Championship club now and if we intend to remain one we should now start thinking like one. I"m sure that once the majority of the "deadwood" has been cleared out we'll find the squad a lot more leaner and fitter for the remainder of this season and ready to move forward next season - UTC!
True it would be good if we could swing it
[quote][p][bold]kangman2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: ^ Tut, Tut abc100, whatever comments someone has to make there's not much point in accusing of being a "new" supporter. The club is growing, we need all the supporters we can get and being elitist isn't going to encourage people to join in. Apart from that Leon Clarke sounds worth a punt to me, but on a short contract initially. Regards[/p][/quote]Surely Ted the way forward this January would be to sign a quality "second-string" striker from a Premiership club and not hope that a lower league striker can "make the step up". We are a Championship club now and if we intend to remain one we should now start thinking like one. I"m sure that once the majority of the "deadwood" has been cleared out we'll find the squad a lot more leaner and fitter for the remainder of this season and ready to move forward next season - UTC![/p][/quote]True it would be good if we could swing it TedMacsCherryPants

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