AFC Bournemouth: Ref made honest mistake over penalty says Howe

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BOSS Eddie Howe conceded he felt Cherries had benefited from an “honest mistake” by referee Simon Hooper during their New Year’s Day draw at Brighton.

Hooper infuriated the Amex Stadium faithful when he awarded Cherries a penalty following Inigo Calderon’s challenge on Marc Pugh just 13 minutes in.

Lewis Grabban made no mistake from the spot to fire Cherries ahead before Stephen Ward salvaged a share of the spoils for the hosts with a late leveller.

Giving his opinion on the decision, Howe said: “I thought it was a difficult one for the referee. He had the same angle as me and, initially, I thought it was a foul. But the boy took the ball as well.

“I would have felt hard done by if it had been given against us. In fairness to the referee, he has refereed us a number of times and he is a very good referee. He made an honest mistake.

“I thought he refereed the rest of the game very well because it was a difficult one for him from that point onwards. He responded and showed real character.”

Brighton head coach Oscar Garcia, who saw Ward’s deflected header cancel out Grabban’s penalty a minute from time, said: “Everyone saw what happened except the most important person.”

And Cherries winger Pugh said: “He came across me, clipped my leg and then won the ball so I don’t know the rule for that one. Maybe if you get the man first then it is a penalty but I didn’t claim it.

“We could have had an argument for a penalty when Andrew Surman went down in the box later on and we didn’t get one. These things even themselves out and referees have to make split-second decisions.”

Although Ward’s late goal denied Cherries a club record third consecutive away win in the second flight, Howe was delighted with their showing.

He said: “From my perspective, you have to look at the bigger picture. As disappointed as we were not to win, a point and a good display pleased me no end. I think it is a marker of how far we have come that we competed and performed really well, probably bar the last 15 minutes when we were under big pressure.

“We were indebted to the woodwork and Lee Camp at the end but, for the rest of the game, bar a couple of moments in the first half, I thought we were really good.

“We just couldn’t clear the ball for their goal. I was desperate for someone to get a good contact on it and get it away from danger. The more questions they asked and the more balls they put into the box, you did fear that something would happen.

“It was a real shame because Lee didn’t look like he was going to get beaten. I thought his display was very good alongside our back four who had repelled a good Brighton side.

“Although my initial reaction was one of disappointment, they had a couple of chances at the end and we could have got beaten under late pressure.

“It is another game unbeaten, another point on the board and another away point which, earlier in the season, we probably wouldn’t have got. I feel we are developing and improving all the time and thought this was another demonstration of that.”

Howe confirmed there was no update on Camp’s situation with the goalkeeper’s loan having expired following the clash. Talks regarding a permanent contract with the 29-year-old, whose deal at West Brom also came to an end today, are understood to be continuing.

Meanwhile, Nico Yennaris has returned to Arsenal following the end of his loan spell with Cherries.

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9:43pm Wed 1 Jan 14

holdinkæft says...

Feel Howe made a mistake today, first with Pugh, Fraser is much better.
then at the end bringing Pitman on, stupid mistakes lets hope he learns from them. Still hasnt signed Camp. the guy will want more money now, after today.
We lost 2 points today due to poor management.
Feel Howe made a mistake today, first with Pugh, Fraser is much better. then at the end bringing Pitman on, stupid mistakes lets hope he learns from them. Still hasnt signed Camp. the guy will want more money now, after today. We lost 2 points today due to poor management. holdinkæft

9:43pm Wed 1 Jan 14

raybren says...

" Willo " said it was a penalty , good enough for me . Pity we didn 't see Yennaris , let ' s hope he enjoyed the training ! Don ' t know how we got away with that one with Mr Wenger .
" Willo " said it was a penalty , good enough for me . Pity we didn 't see Yennaris , let ' s hope he enjoyed the training ! Don ' t know how we got away with that one with Mr Wenger . raybren

10:00pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Afcbpete says...

raybren wrote:
" Willo " said it was a penalty , good enough for me . Pity we didn 't see Yennaris , let ' s hope he enjoyed the training ! Don ' t know how we got away with that one with Mr Wenger .
Good or not, we've had plenty of decisions go against us this season!!
I really don't understand the point in bringing in Yennaris, it's alright saying he was back up, but if he wasn't playing, he'd then not be match fit. Just seemed a waste of time and money all round...
[quote][p][bold]raybren[/bold] wrote: " Willo " said it was a penalty , good enough for me . Pity we didn 't see Yennaris , let ' s hope he enjoyed the training ! Don ' t know how we got away with that one with Mr Wenger .[/p][/quote]Good or not, we've had plenty of decisions go against us this season!! I really don't understand the point in bringing in Yennaris, it's alright saying he was back up, but if he wasn't playing, he'd then not be match fit. Just seemed a waste of time and money all round... Afcbpete

10:02pm Wed 1 Jan 14

holdinkæft says...

it was a trip first, then the ball, stone dead penalty Howe is just trying to cover over his own mistakes. Like he always says, Its a learning curve. Lets hope he has learnt something today.
it was a trip first, then the ball, stone dead penalty Howe is just trying to cover over his own mistakes. Like he always says, Its a learning curve. Lets hope he has learnt something today. holdinkæft

11:56pm Wed 1 Jan 14

rednblack37 says...

holdinkæft wrote:
it was a trip first, then the ball, stone dead penalty Howe is just trying to cover over his own mistakes. Like he always says, Its a learning curve. Lets hope he has learnt something today.
But will you learn to support or just constantly slag off? Bet Christmas was fun in your house
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: it was a trip first, then the ball, stone dead penalty Howe is just trying to cover over his own mistakes. Like he always says, Its a learning curve. Lets hope he has learnt something today.[/p][/quote]But will you learn to support or just constantly slag off? Bet Christmas was fun in your house rednblack37

7:14am Thu 2 Jan 14

alasdair1967 says...

rednblack37 wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
it was a trip first, then the ball, stone dead penalty Howe is just trying to cover over his own mistakes. Like he always says, Its a learning curve. Lets hope he has learnt something today.
But will you learn to support or just constantly slag off? Bet Christmas was fun in your house
In holdinkeaft defence at least he has the decency to post win lose or draw ,unlike others who only ever come out of the woodwork when we lose ,these are the ones I have no time for the ones whom have the audacity to call them supporters yet only post there venomous bile as I said when we lose ,
[quote][p][bold]rednblack37[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: it was a trip first, then the ball, stone dead penalty Howe is just trying to cover over his own mistakes. Like he always says, Its a learning curve. Lets hope he has learnt something today.[/p][/quote]But will you learn to support or just constantly slag off? Bet Christmas was fun in your house[/p][/quote]In holdinkeaft defence at least he has the decency to post win lose or draw ,unlike others who only ever come out of the woodwork when we lose ,these are the ones I have no time for the ones whom have the audacity to call them supporters yet only post there venomous bile as I said when we lose , alasdair1967

7:43am Thu 2 Jan 14

cheeriedriteup says...

holdinkæft wrote:
Feel Howe made a mistake today, first with Pugh, Fraser is much better.
then at the end bringing Pitman on, stupid mistakes lets hope he learns from them. Still hasnt signed Camp. the guy will want more money now, after today.
We lost 2 points today due to poor management.
Did you not see the Ipswich game, Pugh and Pitman made all the difference when they came on, I feel EH was right to stay with this formula , beside Fraser has played a lot of games at high tempo so a rest will only do him good.
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: Feel Howe made a mistake today, first with Pugh, Fraser is much better. then at the end bringing Pitman on, stupid mistakes lets hope he learns from them. Still hasnt signed Camp. the guy will want more money now, after today. We lost 2 points today due to poor management.[/p][/quote]Did you not see the Ipswich game, Pugh and Pitman made all the difference when they came on, I feel EH was right to stay with this formula , beside Fraser has played a lot of games at high tempo so a rest will only do him good. cheeriedriteup

8:24am Thu 2 Jan 14

rednblack37 says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
rednblack37 wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
it was a trip first, then the ball, stone dead penalty Howe is just trying to cover over his own mistakes. Like he always says, Its a learning curve. Lets hope he has learnt something today.
But will you learn to support or just constantly slag off? Bet Christmas was fun in your house
In holdinkeaft defence at least he has the decency to post win lose or draw ,unlike others who only ever come out of the woodwork when we lose ,these are the ones I have no time for the ones whom have the audacity to call them supporters yet only post there venomous bile as I said when we lose ,
Fair point, but doesn't apply to me, so don't use my previous post as a quote to back up your point. I'm less likely to post if we lose (not that I always can anyway, work etc) because I don't slag off the team or Eddie Howe - constructive criticism is fine, but that's not what I was originally commenting on as far as I can see - just someone slagging off all the time.
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rednblack37[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: it was a trip first, then the ball, stone dead penalty Howe is just trying to cover over his own mistakes. Like he always says, Its a learning curve. Lets hope he has learnt something today.[/p][/quote]But will you learn to support or just constantly slag off? Bet Christmas was fun in your house[/p][/quote]In holdinkeaft defence at least he has the decency to post win lose or draw ,unlike others who only ever come out of the woodwork when we lose ,these are the ones I have no time for the ones whom have the audacity to call them supporters yet only post there venomous bile as I said when we lose ,[/p][/quote]Fair point, but doesn't apply to me, so don't use my previous post as a quote to back up your point. I'm less likely to post if we lose (not that I always can anyway, work etc) because I don't slag off the team or Eddie Howe - constructive criticism is fine, but that's not what I was originally commenting on as far as I can see - just someone slagging off all the time. rednblack37

8:27am Thu 2 Jan 14

AFCBade says...

If we got lucky for the pen then we were unlucky with the surman incident so it evened up in the game. Was worried we would let it slip given the pressure. I like Pugh in the team in away games so glad he played but my only concern is that the current formation is great until Ritchie and grabban tire and then the balance is lost when Fraser and Pitnsn come on. Still very good point and at times the one touch football was great.
If we got lucky for the pen then we were unlucky with the surman incident so it evened up in the game. Was worried we would let it slip given the pressure. I like Pugh in the team in away games so glad he played but my only concern is that the current formation is great until Ritchie and grabban tire and then the balance is lost when Fraser and Pitnsn come on. Still very good point and at times the one touch football was great. AFCBade

8:56am Thu 2 Jan 14

susi.m says...

holdinkæft wrote:
Feel Howe made a mistake today, first with Pugh, Fraser is much better.
then at the end bringing Pitman on, stupid mistakes lets hope he learns from them. Still hasnt signed Camp. the guy will want more money now, after today.
We lost 2 points today due to poor management.
Were you at the game?
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: Feel Howe made a mistake today, first with Pugh, Fraser is much better. then at the end bringing Pitman on, stupid mistakes lets hope he learns from them. Still hasnt signed Camp. the guy will want more money now, after today. We lost 2 points today due to poor management.[/p][/quote]Were you at the game? susi.m

9:49am Thu 2 Jan 14

a real supporter says...

susi.m wrote:
holdinkæft wrote: Feel Howe made a mistake today, first with Pugh, Fraser is much better. then at the end bringing Pitman on, stupid mistakes lets hope he learns from them. Still hasnt signed Camp. the guy will want more money now, after today. We lost 2 points today due to poor management.
Were you at the game?
Of course he wasn’t he's another armchair warrior who gives nothing financially to the club. In the last 4 games we have achieved 2 wins and 2 draws yet idiots come on here and spout nonsense. Just to remind everybody Brighton are 7th in the league and we drew 1.1 at home as well. We are 16th in the Championship and beating teams like Wednesday & Reading away from home, drawing with Ipswich & Brighton. Wake up everybody we could have been like Yeovil and Doncaster. Also, where are all the Howe out idiots now. How embarrassing it must be for you all.
[quote][p][bold]susi.m[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: Feel Howe made a mistake today, first with Pugh, Fraser is much better. then at the end bringing Pitman on, stupid mistakes lets hope he learns from them. Still hasnt signed Camp. the guy will want more money now, after today. We lost 2 points today due to poor management.[/p][/quote]Were you at the game?[/p][/quote]Of course he wasn’t he's another armchair warrior who gives nothing financially to the club. In the last 4 games we have achieved 2 wins and 2 draws yet idiots come on here and spout nonsense. Just to remind everybody Brighton are 7th in the league and we drew 1.1 at home as well. We are 16th in the Championship and beating teams like Wednesday & Reading away from home, drawing with Ipswich & Brighton. Wake up everybody we could have been like Yeovil and Doncaster. Also, where are all the Howe out idiots now. How embarrassing it must be for you all. a real supporter

10:15am Thu 2 Jan 14

swanagecherrie says...

Lets not forget what we was all hoping for this season, at the beginning most of the was saying 4th from bottom and consolidate this season will do nicely. Here we are sat at the halfway point 16th in the league with 30 points and changed very little. The team seems to be improving technically every week, remember all the good teams are built over a period not bought in a instant (even if we could afford it). Lets all be patient let the team develop and enjoy the ride the ups and downs lets face it even the downs are still the best football we have seen in years.
Lets not forget what we was all hoping for this season, at the beginning most of the was saying 4th from bottom and consolidate this season will do nicely. Here we are sat at the halfway point 16th in the league with 30 points and changed very little. The team seems to be improving technically every week, remember all the good teams are built over a period not bought in a instant (even if we could afford it). Lets all be patient let the team develop and enjoy the ride the ups and downs lets face it even the downs are still the best football we have seen in years. swanagecherrie

10:37am Thu 2 Jan 14

horsted says...

I felt replacing Grabban with Pitman was a mistake, he has no pace, Rantie is the obvious replacement with his speed, he would have upset those centre half's, Pitman to me does not fit the style EH plays, he is a top league one player, but certainly not up to this level, as for Brightons late goal, Mark Pugh gave the ball away in the Brighton half, he was very naive, he should have taken the ball into the corner, his one error costs us that late pressure and goal.
I felt replacing Grabban with Pitman was a mistake, he has no pace, Rantie is the obvious replacement with his speed, he would have upset those centre half's, Pitman to me does not fit the style EH plays, he is a top league one player, but certainly not up to this level, as for Brightons late goal, Mark Pugh gave the ball away in the Brighton half, he was very naive, he should have taken the ball into the corner, his one error costs us that late pressure and goal. horsted

11:20am Thu 2 Jan 14

bigfatsteve says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
rednblack37 wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
it was a trip first, then the ball, stone dead penalty Howe is just trying to cover over his own mistakes. Like he always says, Its a learning curve. Lets hope he has learnt something today.
But will you learn to support or just constantly slag off? Bet Christmas was fun in your house
In holdinkeaft defence at least he has the decency to post win lose or draw ,unlike others who only ever come out of the woodwork when we lose ,these are the ones I have no time for the ones whom have the audacity to call them supporters yet only post there venomous bile as I said when we lose ,
Watched the game from in Brighton hospitality seats after leaving it too late to get tickets. Great view of the game at the front of the upper tiers. I thought straight away it was a penalty, yet watching straight after the match on the tv screens in slow motion, you could definitely see the Brighton player got the ball first. The Brighton goal was an own goal by Simon Francis who tried to head it away. I'm not sure why you say Eddie is trying to cover his own mistakes he obviously got to see it after the game on the clubs screens in slow motion. I must say sitting so high up gives you a different perspective of seeing the team play. I was amazed at the amount of times we gave the ball away, yet we closed the down well the majority of the time. Sitting back on a one nil lead is always a risky option and doesn't make for good viewing. It nearly paid off and I think that would have been a good smash and grab to come away with all three points. Apart from the woodwork and Camp pulling of a string of saves this could have been a 4-1,5-1 thrashing as Brighton were the better team. Still a good defensive performance and another point away from home.
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rednblack37[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: it was a trip first, then the ball, stone dead penalty Howe is just trying to cover over his own mistakes. Like he always says, Its a learning curve. Lets hope he has learnt something today.[/p][/quote]But will you learn to support or just constantly slag off? Bet Christmas was fun in your house[/p][/quote]In holdinkeaft defence at least he has the decency to post win lose or draw ,unlike others who only ever come out of the woodwork when we lose ,these are the ones I have no time for the ones whom have the audacity to call them supporters yet only post there venomous bile as I said when we lose ,[/p][/quote]Watched the game from in Brighton hospitality seats after leaving it too late to get tickets. Great view of the game at the front of the upper tiers. I thought straight away it was a penalty, yet watching straight after the match on the tv screens in slow motion, you could definitely see the Brighton player got the ball first. The Brighton goal was an own goal by Simon Francis who tried to head it away. I'm not sure why you say Eddie is trying to cover his own mistakes he obviously got to see it after the game on the clubs screens in slow motion. I must say sitting so high up gives you a different perspective of seeing the team play. I was amazed at the amount of times we gave the ball away, yet we closed the down well the majority of the time. Sitting back on a one nil lead is always a risky option and doesn't make for good viewing. It nearly paid off and I think that would have been a good smash and grab to come away with all three points. Apart from the woodwork and Camp pulling of a string of saves this could have been a 4-1,5-1 thrashing as Brighton were the better team. Still a good defensive performance and another point away from home. bigfatsteve

11:39am Thu 2 Jan 14

chawtoncherry says...

How refreshing to hear a manager being honest. Most managers would have been howling in protest about the other possible penalty that was more of a cert. Refreshing too to hear Tommy Elphick's comments after the Ipswich game about the winning goal that was not allowed.
How refreshing to hear a manager being honest. Most managers would have been howling in protest about the other possible penalty that was more of a cert. Refreshing too to hear Tommy Elphick's comments after the Ipswich game about the winning goal that was not allowed. chawtoncherry

12:19pm Thu 2 Jan 14

jontee says...

If you had offered me this situation in August, I would have bitten your hand off. As I have said all along we are punching above our weight and only a manager of Eddie’s calibre would have kept our heads above water. You only have to look at the table at the end of 1989 when we were higher than now and still ended up going down. This is always the danger with a small squad. Yes I know we have a big squad numerically, but on quality it is quite small.
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We can have guarded optimism for the rest of the season, but it only takes a few injuries and we could be right down there. Main worries are the defensive frailty and the fading prospects of retaining Camp. Ritchie gives us so much more going forward if we can keep him here and keep him fit.
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I don’t like seeing the team without a recognised striker, particularly at home. You can get away with that if you are Spain, and compared to Yeovil we probably are like Spain. No one seems to realise the value of Pitman. He always puts in a good shift and will get you a goal out of very little. Yes there are better strikers around, but until we get one of them, I’ll stick with him.
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Eddie doesn’t know what resources he will have this month. At Crawley, John Gregory compared this to giving kid’s pocket money. If they blow it all in one go at the sweet shop, you are less likely to give them more. So I imagine Mr Demin will be cautious having seen Eddie blow over £2m on one player who will make no impression at this level. I don’t have to name him do I ?
If you had offered me this situation in August, I would have bitten your hand off. As I have said all along we are punching above our weight and only a manager of Eddie’s calibre would have kept our heads above water. You only have to look at the table at the end of 1989 when we were higher than now and still ended up going down. This is always the danger with a small squad. Yes I know we have a big squad numerically, but on quality it is quite small. . We can have guarded optimism for the rest of the season, but it only takes a few injuries and we could be right down there. Main worries are the defensive frailty and the fading prospects of retaining Camp. Ritchie gives us so much more going forward if we can keep him here and keep him fit. . I don’t like seeing the team without a recognised striker, particularly at home. You can get away with that if you are Spain, and compared to Yeovil we probably are like Spain. No one seems to realise the value of Pitman. He always puts in a good shift and will get you a goal out of very little. Yes there are better strikers around, but until we get one of them, I’ll stick with him. . Eddie doesn’t know what resources he will have this month. At Crawley, John Gregory compared this to giving kid’s pocket money. If they blow it all in one go at the sweet shop, you are less likely to give them more. So I imagine Mr Demin will be cautious having seen Eddie blow over £2m on one player who will make no impression at this level. I don’t have to name him do I ? jontee

3:23pm Thu 2 Jan 14

holdinkæft says...

susi.m wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
Feel Howe made a mistake today, first with Pugh, Fraser is much better.
then at the end bringing Pitman on, stupid mistakes lets hope he learns from them. Still hasnt signed Camp. the guy will want more money now, after today.
We lost 2 points today due to poor management.
Were you at the game?
yes, was you, if so, hope you got wet too.
[quote][p][bold]susi.m[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: Feel Howe made a mistake today, first with Pugh, Fraser is much better. then at the end bringing Pitman on, stupid mistakes lets hope he learns from them. Still hasnt signed Camp. the guy will want more money now, after today. We lost 2 points today due to poor management.[/p][/quote]Were you at the game?[/p][/quote]yes, was you, if so, hope you got wet too. holdinkæft

3:27pm Thu 2 Jan 14

holdinkæft says...

horsted wrote:
I felt replacing Grabban with Pitman was a mistake, he has no pace, Rantie is the obvious replacement with his speed, he would have upset those centre half's, Pitman to me does not fit the style EH plays, he is a top league one player, but certainly not up to this level, as for Brightons late goal, Mark Pugh gave the ball away in the Brighton half, he was very naive, he should have taken the ball into the corner, his one error costs us that late pressure and goal.
Hooray, Im not the only one with these views.
[quote][p][bold]horsted[/bold] wrote: I felt replacing Grabban with Pitman was a mistake, he has no pace, Rantie is the obvious replacement with his speed, he would have upset those centre half's, Pitman to me does not fit the style EH plays, he is a top league one player, but certainly not up to this level, as for Brightons late goal, Mark Pugh gave the ball away in the Brighton half, he was very naive, he should have taken the ball into the corner, his one error costs us that late pressure and goal.[/p][/quote]Hooray, Im not the only one with these views. holdinkæft

3:48pm Thu 2 Jan 14

susi.m says...

horsted wrote:
I felt replacing Grabban with Pitman was a mistake, he has no pace, Rantie is the obvious replacement with his speed, he would have upset those centre half's, Pitman to me does not fit the style EH plays, he is a top league one player, but certainly not up to this level, as for Brightons late goal, Mark Pugh gave the ball away in the Brighton half, he was very naive, he should have taken the ball into the corner, his one error costs us that late pressure and goal.
Grabban looked knackered to me as did Ritchie, which I am guessing is why they were replaced. Grabban ran his socks off.
However, Pugh also looked knackered but we cant have 2 wingers on the bench. Pugh generally had a great game.
[quote][p][bold]horsted[/bold] wrote: I felt replacing Grabban with Pitman was a mistake, he has no pace, Rantie is the obvious replacement with his speed, he would have upset those centre half's, Pitman to me does not fit the style EH plays, he is a top league one player, but certainly not up to this level, as for Brightons late goal, Mark Pugh gave the ball away in the Brighton half, he was very naive, he should have taken the ball into the corner, his one error costs us that late pressure and goal.[/p][/quote]Grabban looked knackered to me as did Ritchie, which I am guessing is why they were replaced. Grabban ran his socks off. However, Pugh also looked knackered but we cant have 2 wingers on the bench. Pugh generally had a great game. susi.m

3:57pm Thu 2 Jan 14

susi.m says...

holdinkæft wrote:
susi.m wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
Feel Howe made a mistake today, first with Pugh, Fraser is much better.
then at the end bringing Pitman on, stupid mistakes lets hope he learns from them. Still hasnt signed Camp. the guy will want more money now, after today.
We lost 2 points today due to poor management.
Were you at the game?
yes, was you, if so, hope you got wet too.
If you were at the gamethen I am sure you noticed that Grabbon had run his socks off and was totally knackered, which I am sure is why King Eddie had the sense to replace him with new blood when he did.
Pugh had a great game generally and work very very hard. He was running rings round that Brighton defender.

If you think you could do a better job in football management then should start taking all your coaching badges and work yourself up to a decent level.
We will no doubt eventually need to have someone lined up to replaced Eddie and JT several years down the line.

Didn't get too wet in my row plus had a good coat on. Only the first few rows were getting wet.
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]susi.m[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: Feel Howe made a mistake today, first with Pugh, Fraser is much better. then at the end bringing Pitman on, stupid mistakes lets hope he learns from them. Still hasnt signed Camp. the guy will want more money now, after today. We lost 2 points today due to poor management.[/p][/quote]Were you at the game?[/p][/quote]yes, was you, if so, hope you got wet too.[/p][/quote]If you were at the gamethen I am sure you noticed that Grabbon had run his socks off and was totally knackered, which I am sure is why King Eddie had the sense to replace him with new blood when he did. Pugh had a great game generally and work very very hard. He was running rings round that Brighton defender. If you think you could do a better job in football management then should start taking all your coaching badges and work yourself up to a decent level. We will no doubt eventually need to have someone lined up to replaced Eddie and JT several years down the line. Didn't get too wet in my row plus had a good coat on. Only the first few rows were getting wet. susi.m

3:58pm Thu 2 Jan 14

holdinkæft says...

holdinkæft wrote:
horsted wrote:
I felt replacing Grabban with Pitman was a mistake, he has no pace, Rantie is the obvious replacement with his speed, he would have upset those centre half's, Pitman to me does not fit the style EH plays, he is a top league one player, but certainly not up to this level, as for Brightons late goal, Mark Pugh gave the ball away in the Brighton half, he was very naive, he should have taken the ball into the corner, his one error costs us that late pressure and goal.
Hooray, Im not the only one with these views.
Just seen the replay, why was Pugh running away from goal for the penalty, the ref was only 10 yards away, he saw it all. their goal was offside, a man lying on the goal line interfering with play surely.
is that positive enough for you.
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]horsted[/bold] wrote: I felt replacing Grabban with Pitman was a mistake, he has no pace, Rantie is the obvious replacement with his speed, he would have upset those centre half's, Pitman to me does not fit the style EH plays, he is a top league one player, but certainly not up to this level, as for Brightons late goal, Mark Pugh gave the ball away in the Brighton half, he was very naive, he should have taken the ball into the corner, his one error costs us that late pressure and goal.[/p][/quote]Hooray, Im not the only one with these views.[/p][/quote]Just seen the replay, why was Pugh running away from goal for the penalty, the ref was only 10 yards away, he saw it all. their goal was offside, a man lying on the goal line interfering with play surely. is that positive enough for you. holdinkæft

4:28pm Thu 2 Jan 14

nonnogeppetto says...

Does anyone happens to know what time the squad trains at the training ground? My two and half year old grandson wants me to take him to watch football however before I contemplate taking him to a proper match I want to test the waters by taking him to a practice session so that as soon as he gets fed up I can take him home something that would loathe to do if it was a real match. Thank you.

By the way all the above makes interesting reading and I can see at least a dozen of potential replacement managers should Eddie leave!!!!!
Does anyone happens to know what time the squad trains at the training ground? My two and half year old grandson wants me to take him to watch football however before I contemplate taking him to a proper match I want to test the waters by taking him to a practice session so that as soon as he gets fed up I can take him home something that would loathe to do if it was a real match. Thank you. By the way all the above makes interesting reading and I can see at least a dozen of potential replacement managers should Eddie leave!!!!! nonnogeppetto

4:43pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Lowe-Ryder says...

Word floating round on the Portsmouth News site suggest Fogden might be on his way down there on loan (I assume it'd be a loan anyway) - some of the Fishy ones seem to think they're in with a shout of signing Kevin Philips though.

You can always rely on them for a laugh...
Word floating round on the Portsmouth News site suggest Fogden might be on his way down there on loan (I assume it'd be a loan anyway) - some of the Fishy ones seem to think they're in with a shout of signing Kevin Philips though. You can always rely on them for a laugh... Lowe-Ryder

5:08pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Beaker66 says...

Brighton supporter here. I cannot believe that some of you are slagging off Eddie Howe. He's probably the best manager you've had in years and you want him out? Pathetic!
I was at the game and we could not believe the penalty decision, it was an absolute shocker. Certainly the challenge on Surman later in the half was worthy of a pen though. In the first half we totally outplayed you. In the second half you were a different team, in the first 15 minutes you came at us and started to look dangerous. Then when we had the ball you closed us down quickly, harrying us til we gave it away, then keeping possession well when you did get the ball. Grabban looked good but was totally knackered by the time he was subbed. All in all Howe got it right with his tactics and for us it's definitely two points dropped even though it was nice to get that late goal.
Brighton supporter here. I cannot believe that some of you are slagging off Eddie Howe. He's probably the best manager you've had in years and you want him out? Pathetic! I was at the game and we could not believe the penalty decision, it was an absolute shocker. Certainly the challenge on Surman later in the half was worthy of a pen though. In the first half we totally outplayed you. In the second half you were a different team, in the first 15 minutes you came at us and started to look dangerous. Then when we had the ball you closed us down quickly, harrying us til we gave it away, then keeping possession well when you did get the ball. Grabban looked good but was totally knackered by the time he was subbed. All in all Howe got it right with his tactics and for us it's definitely two points dropped even though it was nice to get that late goal. Beaker66

5:38pm Thu 2 Jan 14

nonnogeppetto says...

Beaker66 wrote:
Brighton supporter here. I cannot believe that some of you are slagging off Eddie Howe. He's probably the best manager you've had in years and you want him out? Pathetic!
I was at the game and we could not believe the penalty decision, it was an absolute shocker. Certainly the challenge on Surman later in the half was worthy of a pen though. In the first half we totally outplayed you. In the second half you were a different team, in the first 15 minutes you came at us and started to look dangerous. Then when we had the ball you closed us down quickly, harrying us til we gave it away, then keeping possession well when you did get the ball. Grabban looked good but was totally knackered by the time he was subbed. All in all Howe got it right with his tactics and for us it's definitely two points dropped even though it was nice to get that late goal.
It takes an opposition's fan to come on here and defend our manager well done for doing so because for some of our supporters there is nothing EH does that will ever be right and they slag him at every opportune moment. I guess every football club has them. Good luck with the rest of the season and Happy New Year to you.
[quote][p][bold]Beaker66[/bold] wrote: Brighton supporter here. I cannot believe that some of you are slagging off Eddie Howe. He's probably the best manager you've had in years and you want him out? Pathetic! I was at the game and we could not believe the penalty decision, it was an absolute shocker. Certainly the challenge on Surman later in the half was worthy of a pen though. In the first half we totally outplayed you. In the second half you were a different team, in the first 15 minutes you came at us and started to look dangerous. Then when we had the ball you closed us down quickly, harrying us til we gave it away, then keeping possession well when you did get the ball. Grabban looked good but was totally knackered by the time he was subbed. All in all Howe got it right with his tactics and for us it's definitely two points dropped even though it was nice to get that late goal.[/p][/quote]It takes an opposition's fan to come on here and defend our manager well done for doing so because for some of our supporters there is nothing EH does that will ever be right and they slag him at every opportune moment. I guess every football club has them. Good luck with the rest of the season and Happy New Year to you. nonnogeppetto

6:47pm Thu 2 Jan 14

abc100 says...

nonnogeppetto wrote:
Beaker66 wrote:
Brighton supporter here. I cannot believe that some of you are slagging off Eddie Howe. He's probably the best manager you've had in years and you want him out? Pathetic!
I was at the game and we could not believe the penalty decision, it was an absolute shocker. Certainly the challenge on Surman later in the half was worthy of a pen though. In the first half we totally outplayed you. In the second half you were a different team, in the first 15 minutes you came at us and started to look dangerous. Then when we had the ball you closed us down quickly, harrying us til we gave it away, then keeping possession well when you did get the ball. Grabban looked good but was totally knackered by the time he was subbed. All in all Howe got it right with his tactics and for us it's definitely two points dropped even though it was nice to get that late goal.
It takes an opposition's fan to come on here and defend our manager well done for doing so because for some of our supporters there is nothing EH does that will ever be right and they slag him at every opportune moment. I guess every football club has them. Good luck with the rest of the season and Happy New Year to you.
I can't believe some of the comments aimed at Eddie Howe by some people( can't call them fans) they really do make themselves sound rather silly, they can't of been around that long, of course he gets it wrong sometimes as all managers do but when I look at the league table his record for Afcb says it all, a couple of wins of a play off place, yeah he really is shocking ain't he !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beaker66[/bold] wrote: Brighton supporter here. I cannot believe that some of you are slagging off Eddie Howe. He's probably the best manager you've had in years and you want him out? Pathetic! I was at the game and we could not believe the penalty decision, it was an absolute shocker. Certainly the challenge on Surman later in the half was worthy of a pen though. In the first half we totally outplayed you. In the second half you were a different team, in the first 15 minutes you came at us and started to look dangerous. Then when we had the ball you closed us down quickly, harrying us til we gave it away, then keeping possession well when you did get the ball. Grabban looked good but was totally knackered by the time he was subbed. All in all Howe got it right with his tactics and for us it's definitely two points dropped even though it was nice to get that late goal.[/p][/quote]It takes an opposition's fan to come on here and defend our manager well done for doing so because for some of our supporters there is nothing EH does that will ever be right and they slag him at every opportune moment. I guess every football club has them. Good luck with the rest of the season and Happy New Year to you.[/p][/quote]I can't believe some of the comments aimed at Eddie Howe by some people( can't call them fans) they really do make themselves sound rather silly, they can't of been around that long, of course he gets it wrong sometimes as all managers do but when I look at the league table his record for Afcb says it all, a couple of wins of a play off place, yeah he really is shocking ain't he !!!!! abc100

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