AFC Bournemouth: Ruthless QPR defeat Cherries

Bournemouth Echo: FAMILIAR FOES: Eddie Howe shakes hands with Charlie Austin last night FAMILIAR FOES: Eddie Howe shakes hands with Charlie Austin last night

QPR 3 Cherries 0

HARRY Redknapp got the better of his former club tonight as Queens Park Rangers underlined their status as title favourites in a ruthless win over Cherries.

Redknapp, who famously began his managerial career at Dean Court, saw the Hoops claim the points in a feisty – and occasionally controversial – clash at Loftus Road.

Cherries had chances against the division’s meanest defence and were well in the game during the early stages but clinical QPR eventually stamped their authority by maximising their own opportunities to leave the Dorset outfit with one victory during a testing 11-match run.

The hosts demonstrated why they remain unbeaten on home turf in the league as emphatic finishing from Charlie Austin, Junior Hoilett and Matt Phillips settled the contest.

Former Poole Town striker Austin had already been denied by a smart Lee Camp save when he coolly converted from close range on 27 minutes.

QPR then reacted angrily after Cherries captain Tommy Elphick had looked fortunate to escape punishment for appearing to handle as he slid in to stop Austin’s run on goal.

Brett Pitman twice went close to a reply but Cherries’ bright start to the second half was abruptly halted when Hoilett doubled the advantage before Phillips produced a tremendous solo effort in the closing stages.

Following the 1-1 draw against Brighton, Cherries boss Eddie Howe opted to make three changes, with the most notable seeing record signing Tokelo Rantie named among the substitutes.

The striker was joined on the bench by Eunan O’Kane and Ryan Fraser as Andrew Surman, Shaun MacDonald and Marc Pugh were all handed starts.

QPR, who went into the match in third position but still overwhelming title frontrunners in the eyes of bookmakers, fielded a star-studded team packed with international and top-flight experience, a fact highlighted by the likes of Jermaine Jenas and Niko Kranjcar being forced to settle for substitute berths.

MacDonald was deployed as a deep-lying midfielder, tasked with shielding the defence in a 4-1-4-1 formation which saw Pitman operating as a lone frontman.

Matt Ritchie unleashed a 20-yard drive with his trusty left foot while, at the other end, QPR’s ace marksman Austin served warning of his renowned aerial prowess when he forced Camp into a sharp tip-over after he had met Danny Simpson’s cross with a trademark header.

It did not take long for engine-room foes Harry Arter and Joey Barton to clash. The pair were always likely to enjoy a duel and referee Andy Woolmer decided that a stern word was enough when, following a robust Barton foul, the former Premier League star hit the deck and pointed the finger at Arter for his apparent retaliation.

Cherries were denied an opener when Richard Dunne blocked from Andrew Surman after the midfielder had exchanged passes with Arter, having been sent clear by a beautiful MacDonald backheel.

But just when it looked as if Cherries were beginning to settle, Austin punished a defensive lapse to put QPR in front. He controlled with his chest and slotted home after Steve Cook had failed to deal with a looping cross from Andrew Johnson.

The match then took a controversial – and confusing – turn with all eyes on referee Woolmer. QPR’s players – and supporters – vociferously called for a penalty and red card when Elphick appeared to handle as he slid in to prevent Austin from reaching a long ball. With Austin trying to break clear and the ball perilously close to the 18-yard box, the hosts were left furious when Woolmer, following lengthy consultation with a linesman, opted to award a free-kick and no card.

A frustrated Barton thumped the set-piece into the defensive wall before earning himself a caution for his challenge on Simon Francis.

Despite the hosts dictating much of the play, Cherries still found openings and central defenders Cook and Elphick both headed over before Rob Green saved comfortably from Pitman after neat work from MacDonald and Surman had created the chance.

On the resumption, Pitman almost immediately missed a decent opportunity to restore parity. A fine Ritchie pass sent the striker clear but having brilliantly cut inside Dunne, he failed to hit the target with a curling left-footed effort.

But with the home crowd becoming frustrated, Cherries were unable to make the most of their bright spell and were made to pay the ultimate price when QPR struck to regain control. Hoilett was allowed time to take a touch and fire low across Camp after a right-wing cross had made its way to the far post.

Keeper Green was alert to push wide a low shot from Arter, Cherries' best performer on the night, before manager Howe replaced Pitman and MacDonald with Rantie and fit-again Lewis Grabban in a bid to revive Cherries’ fortunes.

Fraser was also introduced but QPR finished strongly and never looked in danger during the closing stages, with substitute Phillips storming through the Cherries defence to thump home from 18 yards to complete a chastening evening for the visitors.

QPR: (4-4-2) Green; Simpson, Dunne, Hill, Assou-Ekotto; Carroll, O’Neil (Traore, 81), Barton, Hoilett (Phillips, 74); Johnson (Jenas, 74), Austin.

Unused subs: Kranjcar, Henry, Young, Murphy (g/k).

Booked: Barton

Cherries: (4-1-4-1) Camp 5.5; Francis 5, Cook 5, Elphick 5, Daniels 5; MacDonald 5.5 (Grabban, 61); Ritchie 5.5 (Fraser, 68), Arter 6.5*, Surman 5, Pugh 6; Pitman 6 (Rantie, 61).

Unused subs: Harte, Thomas, O’Kane, Flahavan (g/k).

Booked: MacDonald

Referee: Andy Woolmer (Northamptonshire)

Attendance: 16,331 (including 1,467 away supporters)

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10:33pm Tue 3 Dec 13

nonnogeppetto says...

Very disappointed that we lost tonight even though it was expected I thought we might have lost by a lesser margin.
Unfortunately radios are not allowed in St Annes so I was not able to listen to the commentary on the match tonight. One thing that struck me is how many in St Annes who answered to the name of ‘Here We Go’ there was also a little man crouched in one corner dressed in a scout uniform whose name was Shinto smitho or something I just could not make it out, nor could I make out what he was saying when he started to talk about football. Oh well must go now it is time for the men in their white jackets!!!!
Very disappointed that we lost tonight even though it was expected I thought we might have lost by a lesser margin. Unfortunately radios are not allowed in St Annes so I was not able to listen to the commentary on the match tonight. One thing that struck me is how many in St Annes who answered to the name of ‘Here We Go’ there was also a little man crouched in one corner dressed in a scout uniform whose name was Shinto smitho or something I just could not make it out, nor could I make out what he was saying when he started to talk about football. Oh well must go now it is time for the men in their white jackets!!!! nonnogeppetto

10:50pm Tue 3 Dec 13

WHYNOT says...

and the relegation form continues
and the relegation form continues WHYNOT

10:54pm Tue 3 Dec 13

rogthedodge123 says...

The only thing we could have won tonight was the toss,we are now in our rightful place in the league and have hopefully learnt a lot along the way,Decembers games and their outcomes will decide where we are likely to finish,I firmly believe that we will start scoring and winning again but only if Pugh,Fraser,Grabban,
Pitman and Ritchie are fit and start every game,I know that it will leave TK on the bench but strikers have to score and at the moment its not working,all good teams have a couple of players who bang in the goals and for us last season it was Grabban and Pitman so they must be given a run again to make sure we don't slip into the bottom 3,
Im proud to be a cherry supporter especially when I hear the 1000 fans singing Eddie Howe despite being 3-0 down.
The only thing we could have won tonight was the toss,we are now in our rightful place in the league and have hopefully learnt a lot along the way,Decembers games and their outcomes will decide where we are likely to finish,I firmly believe that we will start scoring and winning again but only if Pugh,Fraser,Grabban, Pitman and Ritchie are fit and start every game,I know that it will leave TK on the bench but strikers have to score and at the moment its not working,all good teams have a couple of players who bang in the goals and for us last season it was Grabban and Pitman so they must be given a run again to make sure we don't slip into the bottom 3, Im proud to be a cherry supporter especially when I hear the 1000 fans singing Eddie Howe despite being 3-0 down. rogthedodge123

11:06pm Tue 3 Dec 13

ASM says...

our next game is tough too, I expect us to lose that. Bring on January, we badly need a striker a centre midfielder, some full backs, a centre back and camp on a permanent contract.
As long as we stay out of the bottom three I am happy. UTC
our next game is tough too, I expect us to lose that. Bring on January, we badly need a striker a centre midfielder, some full backs, a centre back and camp on a permanent contract. As long as we stay out of the bottom three I am happy. UTC ASM

11:08pm Tue 3 Dec 13

pete woodley says...

nonnogeppetto wrote:
Very disappointed that we lost tonight even though it was expected I thought we might have lost by a lesser margin.
Unfortunately radios are not allowed in St Annes so I was not able to listen to the commentary on the match tonight. One thing that struck me is how many in St Annes who answered to the name of ‘Here We Go’ there was also a little man crouched in one corner dressed in a scout uniform whose name was Shinto smitho or something I just could not make it out, nor could I make out what he was saying when he started to talk about football. Oh well must go now it is time for the men in their white jackets!!!!
If you are really ill,forget football, and train to be a councilor,well paid and you mix with a better class of people,like developers,and a chance to pose in the mayoral car.Anyone can apply even hospital porters.
[quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: Very disappointed that we lost tonight even though it was expected I thought we might have lost by a lesser margin. Unfortunately radios are not allowed in St Annes so I was not able to listen to the commentary on the match tonight. One thing that struck me is how many in St Annes who answered to the name of ‘Here We Go’ there was also a little man crouched in one corner dressed in a scout uniform whose name was Shinto smitho or something I just could not make it out, nor could I make out what he was saying when he started to talk about football. Oh well must go now it is time for the men in their white jackets!!!![/p][/quote]If you are really ill,forget football, and train to be a councilor,well paid and you mix with a better class of people,like developers,and a chance to pose in the mayoral car.Anyone can apply even hospital porters. pete woodley

11:12pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Who_R_Ya says...

I couldn't go tonight because of work, a season ticket holder of many years, and the alarm bells are ringing. We seem to have no idea how to set a team for this league, can't score and can't defend, midfield give the ball away to cheaply as do the defenders, we invite trouble and defend to deep, we have been saying that we need to get a couple of strong big players, look at all the teams this year we have played, and look at our little tiddler players, TK falls over when there is a gust of wind, Pitman is not a championship player and lazy. Eddie is walking on a fine line other clubs are reacting to the situation that is there for all to see, he needs to sort it soon otherwise it's offski for him. December is crucial that we get 4 wins otherwise we are going down.
I couldn't go tonight because of work, a season ticket holder of many years, and the alarm bells are ringing. We seem to have no idea how to set a team for this league, can't score and can't defend, midfield give the ball away to cheaply as do the defenders, we invite trouble and defend to deep, we have been saying that we need to get a couple of strong big players, look at all the teams this year we have played, and look at our little tiddler players, TK falls over when there is a gust of wind, Pitman is not a championship player and lazy. Eddie is walking on a fine line other clubs are reacting to the situation that is there for all to see, he needs to sort it soon otherwise it's offski for him. December is crucial that we get 4 wins otherwise we are going down. Who_R_Ya

11:13pm Tue 3 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

rogthedodge123 wrote:
The only thing we could have won tonight was the toss,we are now in our rightful place in the league and have hopefully learnt a lot along the way,Decembers games and their outcomes will decide where we are likely to finish,I firmly believe that we will start scoring and winning again but only if Pugh,Fraser,Grabban,

Pitman and Ritchie are fit and start every game,I know that it will leave TK on the bench but strikers have to score and at the moment its not working,all good teams have a couple of players who bang in the goals and for us last season it was Grabban and Pitman so they must be given a run again to make sure we don't slip into the bottom 3,
Im proud to be a cherry supporter especially when I hear the 1000 fans singing Eddie Howe despite being 3-0 down.
Howe is dragging us back into the bottom divisons again, just look at our starting line up tonight. down to 19th now, 4 pts off relegation. we really need to get rid of Pugh, Francis and Pitman. otherwise we are doomed.
[quote][p][bold]rogthedodge123[/bold] wrote: The only thing we could have won tonight was the toss,we are now in our rightful place in the league and have hopefully learnt a lot along the way,Decembers games and their outcomes will decide where we are likely to finish,I firmly believe that we will start scoring and winning again but only if Pugh,Fraser,Grabban, Pitman and Ritchie are fit and start every game,I know that it will leave TK on the bench but strikers have to score and at the moment its not working,all good teams have a couple of players who bang in the goals and for us last season it was Grabban and Pitman so they must be given a run again to make sure we don't slip into the bottom 3, Im proud to be a cherry supporter especially when I hear the 1000 fans singing Eddie Howe despite being 3-0 down.[/p][/quote]Howe is dragging us back into the bottom divisons again, just look at our starting line up tonight. down to 19th now, 4 pts off relegation. we really need to get rid of Pugh, Francis and Pitman. otherwise we are doomed. holdinkæft

11:23pm Tue 3 Dec 13

nonnogeppetto says...

pete woodley wrote:
nonnogeppetto wrote:
Very disappointed that we lost tonight even though it was expected I thought we might have lost by a lesser margin.
Unfortunately radios are not allowed in St Annes so I was not able to listen to the commentary on the match tonight. One thing that struck me is how many in St Annes who answered to the name of ‘Here We Go’ there was also a little man crouched in one corner dressed in a scout uniform whose name was Shinto smitho or something I just could not make it out, nor could I make out what he was saying when he started to talk about football. Oh well must go now it is time for the men in their white jackets!!!!
If you are really ill,forget football, and train to be a councilor,well paid and you mix with a better class of people,like developers,and a chance to pose in the mayoral car.Anyone can apply even hospital porters.
Thanks for the advice Pete but if you don't mind I will pass on that one!!! I like the beautiful game far too much!!
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nonnogeppetto[/bold] wrote: Very disappointed that we lost tonight even though it was expected I thought we might have lost by a lesser margin. Unfortunately radios are not allowed in St Annes so I was not able to listen to the commentary on the match tonight. One thing that struck me is how many in St Annes who answered to the name of ‘Here We Go’ there was also a little man crouched in one corner dressed in a scout uniform whose name was Shinto smitho or something I just could not make it out, nor could I make out what he was saying when he started to talk about football. Oh well must go now it is time for the men in their white jackets!!!![/p][/quote]If you are really ill,forget football, and train to be a councilor,well paid and you mix with a better class of people,like developers,and a chance to pose in the mayoral car.Anyone can apply even hospital porters.[/p][/quote]Thanks for the advice Pete but if you don't mind I will pass on that one!!! I like the beautiful game far too much!! nonnogeppetto

11:25pm Tue 3 Dec 13

afcb-mark says...

One win in 11 and now 4 points off relegation. Alarm bells ringing, this is not good.
One win in 11 and now 4 points off relegation. Alarm bells ringing, this is not good. afcb-mark

11:27pm Tue 3 Dec 13

YafcbY says...

What is all this nonsense talk about Eddie getting the sack? There was a good 1000 of us tonight singing his name for most the match! Everyone backs Eddie, and watching the team tonight was basically the usual story. We don't have rubbish players, they are just not clinical enough in this division. I hope in January we can sign an experienced midfielder, or striker, someone who is used to working from two to three chances in a game.

But please Rantie is a good player. But the small lad is not going to win crosses. Actually at the minute, no one is going to!!!
What is all this nonsense talk about Eddie getting the sack? There was a good 1000 of us tonight singing his name for most the match! Everyone backs Eddie, and watching the team tonight was basically the usual story. We don't have rubbish players, they are just not clinical enough in this division. I hope in January we can sign an experienced midfielder, or striker, someone who is used to working from two to three chances in a game. But please Rantie is a good player. But the small lad is not going to win crosses. Actually at the minute, no one is going to!!! YafcbY

11:32pm Tue 3 Dec 13

nonnogeppetto says...

YafcbY wrote:
What is all this nonsense talk about Eddie getting the sack? There was a good 1000 of us tonight singing his name for most the match! Everyone backs Eddie, and watching the team tonight was basically the usual story. We don't have rubbish players, they are just not clinical enough in this division. I hope in January we can sign an experienced midfielder, or striker, someone who is used to working from two to three chances in a game.

But please Rantie is a good player. But the small lad is not going to win crosses. Actually at the minute, no one is going to!!!
Your post isn't going to go down well with the doom and gloom brigade you are too positive!!
[quote][p][bold]YafcbY[/bold] wrote: What is all this nonsense talk about Eddie getting the sack? There was a good 1000 of us tonight singing his name for most the match! Everyone backs Eddie, and watching the team tonight was basically the usual story. We don't have rubbish players, they are just not clinical enough in this division. I hope in January we can sign an experienced midfielder, or striker, someone who is used to working from two to three chances in a game. But please Rantie is a good player. But the small lad is not going to win crosses. Actually at the minute, no one is going to!!![/p][/quote]Your post isn't going to go down well with the doom and gloom brigade you are too positive!! nonnogeppetto

11:39pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Who_R_Ya says...

YafcbY wrote:
What is all this nonsense talk about Eddie getting the sack? There was a good 1000 of us tonight singing his name for most the match! Everyone backs Eddie, and watching the team tonight was basically the usual story. We don't have rubbish players, they are just not clinical enough in this division. I hope in January we can sign an experienced midfielder, or striker, someone who is used to working from two to three chances in a game.

But please Rantie is a good player. But the small lad is not going to win crosses. Actually at the minute, no one is going to!!!
Not everyone supports Eddie. We all support AFCB and want to survive and enjoy this league but Eddie needs to step up to the plate and sort it out
[quote][p][bold]YafcbY[/bold] wrote: What is all this nonsense talk about Eddie getting the sack? There was a good 1000 of us tonight singing his name for most the match! Everyone backs Eddie, and watching the team tonight was basically the usual story. We don't have rubbish players, they are just not clinical enough in this division. I hope in January we can sign an experienced midfielder, or striker, someone who is used to working from two to three chances in a game. But please Rantie is a good player. But the small lad is not going to win crosses. Actually at the minute, no one is going to!!![/p][/quote]Not everyone supports Eddie. We all support AFCB and want to survive and enjoy this league but Eddie needs to step up to the plate and sort it out Who_R_Ya

11:48pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Solentcherry says...

Ok, our season starts on Saturday. Some flukey scores from the three bottom teams mean we are now in the relegation mix. We've had our honeymoon period of introduction to this division and its what happens from now on that will save us or sink us. Time for another escape act Eddie.
Before the season started, I would have taken staying up as a good result, and still would. Anything else will be a nice bonus.
I'm starting to believe that some of our players who have served us well are just not good enough for this league and need shipping out ASAP. We can't afford to miss the few chances that come our way, whilst the opposition bury theirs.
Also, I think that maybe, just maybe, we have been sold an average player in TK, and not the star we thought we were getting. If he really was that good he would surely have scored more by now. How many games does he need ? Fact is, he's not even hitting near misses or making keepers save his shots.
Hope he proves me wrong soon. COYC.
Ok, our season starts on Saturday. Some flukey scores from the three bottom teams mean we are now in the relegation mix. We've had our honeymoon period of introduction to this division and its what happens from now on that will save us or sink us. Time for another escape act Eddie. Before the season started, I would have taken staying up as a good result, and still would. Anything else will be a nice bonus. I'm starting to believe that some of our players who have served us well are just not good enough for this league and need shipping out ASAP. We can't afford to miss the few chances that come our way, whilst the opposition bury theirs. Also, I think that maybe, just maybe, we have been sold an average player in TK, and not the star we thought we were getting. If he really was that good he would surely have scored more by now. How many games does he need ? Fact is, he's not even hitting near misses or making keepers save his shots. Hope he proves me wrong soon. COYC. Solentcherry

12:16am Wed 4 Dec 13

lockandload says...

Personally I don't want Eddie to be sacked but one win in 11 is sacking material for any manager. His belief in pitman and rantie is worrying , but he is making mistakes and decisions that are costing us points and our owners won't put up with it for much longer . Come on Eddie sort it out now!
Personally I don't want Eddie to be sacked but one win in 11 is sacking material for any manager. His belief in pitman and rantie is worrying , but he is making mistakes and decisions that are costing us points and our owners won't put up with it for much longer . Come on Eddie sort it out now! lockandload

6:35am Wed 4 Dec 13

TedMacsCherryPants says...

Therapy session:
It all started going wrong in the curry house, c0cked my order up twice and still not convinced I got the curry I ordered!
Onto the pub…Shepherds Bush is on lock-down, no entry for the nasty Bournemouth fans, so onto the ground for a £4.20 lager in a plastic glass, GREAT!!!
Excellent Tuesday night turnout of Cherries supporters, unfortunately second best on the pitch all night long apart from one five minute spell!
My opinion of Charlie Austin is at rock bottom too after his smug goal celebration in front of us, arrogant tw@t, worse than Wiggins!!
The freefall continues and the bottom clubs pick up points while we can’t buy a decent goal, this is starting to get very worrying and EH’s excuses are getting predictable!
Cr@p away end by the way, a corridor with serving hatches, wouldn’t like to have to get out of there in a hurry and sat by boring folk that didn’t want to make a sound all game, not happy! :-)
Therapy session: It all started going wrong in the curry house, c0cked my order up twice and still not convinced I got the curry I ordered! Onto the pub…Shepherds Bush is on lock-down, no entry for the nasty Bournemouth fans, so onto the ground for a £4.20 lager in a plastic glass, GREAT!!! Excellent Tuesday night turnout of Cherries supporters, unfortunately second best on the pitch all night long apart from one five minute spell! My opinion of Charlie Austin is at rock bottom too after his smug goal celebration in front of us, arrogant tw@t, worse than Wiggins!! The freefall continues and the bottom clubs pick up points while we can’t buy a decent goal, this is starting to get very worrying and EH’s excuses are getting predictable! Cr@p away end by the way, a corridor with serving hatches, wouldn’t like to have to get out of there in a hurry and sat by boring folk that didn’t want to make a sound all game, not happy! :-) TedMacsCherryPants

6:59am Wed 4 Dec 13

pokesdown1 says...

Fluky scores in the relegation zone?

Law 10 states....

The team scoring most goals shall win the game.
Fluky scores in the relegation zone? Law 10 states.... The team scoring most goals shall win the game. pokesdown1

7:23am Wed 4 Dec 13

ParkstonePete says...

Due to family circumstances I have not attended as many games as I had hoped to tis season and Saturday and last night were my first two games for a while. Reading the comments about Saturday's match on this site I thought that I may have gone to a different game. On Saturday, our attack was powder puff, how much money did we waste on Rantie? Apart from20 min our midfield was over run, our defence looked scared each time Brighton attacked they looked a threat. I thought we pretty woeful.

Last night I guess we all thought we would struggle but we seemed cave in.

I am really concerned, we need to make so many changes in personnel to make us competitive will those changes happen and will they have time to gel.

Rantie has been a disaster and a complete waste of money

I truly hope I am wrong but unless major changes are made I fear for the worst
Due to family circumstances I have not attended as many games as I had hoped to tis season and Saturday and last night were my first two games for a while. Reading the comments about Saturday's match on this site I thought that I may have gone to a different game. On Saturday, our attack was powder puff, how much money did we waste on Rantie? Apart from20 min our midfield was over run, our defence looked scared each time Brighton attacked they looked a threat. I thought we pretty woeful. Last night I guess we all thought we would struggle but we seemed cave in. I am really concerned, we need to make so many changes in personnel to make us competitive will those changes happen and will they have time to gel. Rantie has been a disaster and a complete waste of money I truly hope I am wrong but unless major changes are made I fear for the worst ParkstonePete

7:41am Wed 4 Dec 13

alasdair1967 says...

I hate to post this but in my opinion Eddie and Jason must be on a tight rope with only one win in 11 and our slump down the league ,god forbid if they are sacked because they are deemed as the special ones by the majority of the fans IF THEY DO GO we as supporters must respect the boards decision and continue to support the players and the clubs name no matter who is selected as manager ,
I hate to post this but in my opinion Eddie and Jason must be on a tight rope with only one win in 11 and our slump down the league ,god forbid if they are sacked because they are deemed as the special ones by the majority of the fans IF THEY DO GO we as supporters must respect the boards decision and continue to support the players and the clubs name no matter who is selected as manager , alasdair1967

7:48am Wed 4 Dec 13

WHYNOT says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
I hate to post this but in my opinion Eddie and Jason must be on a tight rope with only one win in 11 and our slump down the league ,god forbid if they are sacked because they are deemed as the special ones by the majority of the fans IF THEY DO GO we as supporters must respect the boards decision and continue to support the players and the clubs name no matter who is selected as manager ,
look what Barnsley and Sheff Wed done last night after dumping there managers
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: I hate to post this but in my opinion Eddie and Jason must be on a tight rope with only one win in 11 and our slump down the league ,god forbid if they are sacked because they are deemed as the special ones by the majority of the fans IF THEY DO GO we as supporters must respect the boards decision and continue to support the players and the clubs name no matter who is selected as manager ,[/p][/quote]look what Barnsley and Sheff Wed done last night after dumping there managers WHYNOT

8:18am Wed 4 Dec 13

dc addict says...

So very disappointing, not just last night but on a regular basis.
We are virtually guaranteed to concede at least one goal a game. Our attack is powder puff. Even last night, the ball was crossed to the far post where there was NOBODY to meet it. We need more size and power in midfield where our lightweights, already isolated because we play wide in midfield, are overrun.
Rante will not score goals without a big lad to play off. We need a big forward, like Leon Clarke and a powerful midfielder like Ince from Brighton.
Eddie's strategy is obvious but it isn't working.
So very disappointing, not just last night but on a regular basis. We are virtually guaranteed to concede at least one goal a game. Our attack is powder puff. Even last night, the ball was crossed to the far post where there was NOBODY to meet it. We need more size and power in midfield where our lightweights, already isolated because we play wide in midfield, are overrun. Rante will not score goals without a big lad to play off. We need a big forward, like Leon Clarke and a powerful midfielder like Ince from Brighton. Eddie's strategy is obvious but it isn't working. dc addict

8:20am Wed 4 Dec 13

cherrygood says...

It's more exciting than being in mid table obscurity.
It's more exciting than being in mid table obscurity. cherrygood

8:28am Wed 4 Dec 13

susi.m says...

Most of us said that we would be happy just to stay up this season. Anything else would b a bonus.
Anyone who thinks we can get a better manager in than Eddie must not have any real knowledge of the game.
Im still loving it in the Championship and still expecting us to stay up and go for it again next season.
Most of us said that we would be happy just to stay up this season. Anything else would b a bonus. Anyone who thinks we can get a better manager in than Eddie must not have any real knowledge of the game. Im still loving it in the Championship and still expecting us to stay up and go for it again next season. susi.m

8:32am Wed 4 Dec 13

nonnogeppetto says...

Sacking EH would achieve nothing in fact it would make matters worse because his replacement would not be of any use in a club like ours. Even a foreign manager would not be able to deliver!

I was as disappointed as the rest that we lost last night but I have to say that anyone who thought that we would come away from Loftus Road with anything were deluding themselves sadly Saturday I don’t hold much hope for Saturday.

However I do agree that without a target man up front Rantie will not succeed too many crosses come and go without anyone to meet them.

I was not able to listen to the commentary last night so I don’t know how well or badly we played but I do hope that the players will respond positively and go out on Saturday and give their best.

Having said the above if the Board makes a decision I do hope they consider their next step very carefully because if things go pear shape they will lose a lot of supporters next season.
Sacking EH would achieve nothing in fact it would make matters worse because his replacement would not be of any use in a club like ours. Even a foreign manager would not be able to deliver! I was as disappointed as the rest that we lost last night but I have to say that anyone who thought that we would come away from Loftus Road with anything were deluding themselves sadly Saturday I don’t hold much hope for Saturday. However I do agree that without a target man up front Rantie will not succeed too many crosses come and go without anyone to meet them. I was not able to listen to the commentary last night so I don’t know how well or badly we played but I do hope that the players will respond positively and go out on Saturday and give their best. Having said the above if the Board makes a decision I do hope they consider their next step very carefully because if things go pear shape they will lose a lot of supporters next season. nonnogeppetto

8:34am Wed 4 Dec 13

Phil McG (Italy) says...

May I just point out that when we reached Division 2 (now the Championship) in 1987 as Division 3 Champions we spent our first season flirting with relegation. We only secured safety with our last home game of the season against Swindon. At no point did our fans call for the head of Harry Redknapp during that season. Why are people suggesting that Eddie Howe should be at risk?
Do you honestly believe that we are worse than Yeovil, Barnsley, Doncaster, Millwall, Sheffield Wednesday and Charlton? As long as we finish above 3 of those teams then that is all that matters.
Some people need to realise what supporting this club is really about and that FIFA on the playstation is not the real world.

UP THE CHERRIES!!
May I just point out that when we reached Division 2 (now the Championship) in 1987 as Division 3 Champions we spent our first season flirting with relegation. We only secured safety with our last home game of the season against Swindon. At no point did our fans call for the head of Harry Redknapp during that season. Why are people suggesting that Eddie Howe should be at risk? Do you honestly believe that we are worse than Yeovil, Barnsley, Doncaster, Millwall, Sheffield Wednesday and Charlton? As long as we finish above 3 of those teams then that is all that matters. Some people need to realise what supporting this club is really about and that FIFA on the playstation is not the real world. UP THE CHERRIES!! Phil McG (Italy)

8:37am Wed 4 Dec 13

nonnogeppetto says...

Apologies for the extra Saturday in my post!!! as afcbpete says it is down to old age!!!
Apologies for the extra Saturday in my post!!! as afcbpete says it is down to old age!!! nonnogeppetto

8:44am Wed 4 Dec 13

North stand badger says...

Right,lets move on to Reading. The support last night was magnificent and we need to continue play our part. We are all disappointed with recent results and its easy to slip in to 'sack the Manager' mode but there are some winnable games coming up and the team needs the fans behind them.
Right,lets move on to Reading. The support last night was magnificent and we need to continue play our part. We are all disappointed with recent results and its easy to slip in to 'sack the Manager' mode but there are some winnable games coming up and the team needs the fans behind them. North stand badger

8:48am Wed 4 Dec 13

pokesdown1 says...

Would you compare Rantie to Roger"its dust in my eyes"Boli?
Would you compare Rantie to Roger"its dust in my eyes"Boli? pokesdown1

8:49am Wed 4 Dec 13

B'mth123 says...

Absolutely clueless performance last night. I wouldn't mind so much if we loose but have given it a go.

Living close to Shepherds Bush I know several QPR season ticket holders. After the match their summary was that we are not the worst team technically that they have played this season, but by far the least threatening.

The affect that has with teams feeling comfortable against us is that they can push at us and only need 1 or 2 (in last night's case 3) chances and there is no way we can respond.

I can't see it getting better until the Jan window and I think by then we will be in the bottom 3 unless Eddie manages to come up with a system that his pathetically inept strike force can at least carry a smidge of a threat.

I think we should go back to day one of the season when Grabban & Thomas started (Thomas actually did really well) at least they were mobile and carried a threat.
Absolutely clueless performance last night. I wouldn't mind so much if we loose but have given it a go. Living close to Shepherds Bush I know several QPR season ticket holders. After the match their summary was that we are not the worst team technically that they have played this season, but by far the least threatening. The affect that has with teams feeling comfortable against us is that they can push at us and only need 1 or 2 (in last night's case 3) chances and there is no way we can respond. I can't see it getting better until the Jan window and I think by then we will be in the bottom 3 unless Eddie manages to come up with a system that his pathetically inept strike force can at least carry a smidge of a threat. I think we should go back to day one of the season when Grabban & Thomas started (Thomas actually did really well) at least they were mobile and carried a threat. B'mth123

8:52am Wed 4 Dec 13

cherriesforlife79 says...

Eddie just needs to realise that some of our players will not cut it in this league, Pitman, Thomas have to go making way for 2 strikers to come in. We were never going to win this league, and I was always one who said that a finish somewhere between 12th and 17th would be a great first season, something to build on. Yes at present TK does not seem the money we paid for him, but to be honest he has not got a striker who is capable of playing in this league up top with him. We will go to Reading Saturday, and best we can hope for is a point, then we have some massive games Birmingham, Yeovil, Sheff Wed and these are 3 games we have to take points from or we will I am afraid be treading water. January cannot come quick enough for Bournemouth, and if the Russian is really keen to take this club further he needs to tell Howe time to get rid of dead wood, and bring in some fresh players who can compete in this division. You have to remember 18 of the 24 clubs in our division have played in the premiership that says it all, we need to keep Ritchie come January. I hope that the board stick by Howe, as there is nobody out there at the minute who floats my boat to be manager, and lets face it the Russian would probably go foreign. We need investment, not silly comments like Cook saying we can topple premiership hoops just ridiculous comment, they have a team full of quality and experience. Up The Cherries and for ever I will continue to support us but we need to take a real big look at ourselves and some realism needs to come into the equation. On another note, Palace, Sheff Wed, Barnsley all won last night and they have all recently sacked your managers, I hope Howe has not lost the changing room, but if he has he needs to go!!!!!!!!
Eddie just needs to realise that some of our players will not cut it in this league, Pitman, Thomas have to go making way for 2 strikers to come in. We were never going to win this league, and I was always one who said that a finish somewhere between 12th and 17th would be a great first season, something to build on. Yes at present TK does not seem the money we paid for him, but to be honest he has not got a striker who is capable of playing in this league up top with him. We will go to Reading Saturday, and best we can hope for is a point, then we have some massive games Birmingham, Yeovil, Sheff Wed and these are 3 games we have to take points from or we will I am afraid be treading water. January cannot come quick enough for Bournemouth, and if the Russian is really keen to take this club further he needs to tell Howe time to get rid of dead wood, and bring in some fresh players who can compete in this division. You have to remember 18 of the 24 clubs in our division have played in the premiership that says it all, we need to keep Ritchie come January. I hope that the board stick by Howe, as there is nobody out there at the minute who floats my boat to be manager, and lets face it the Russian would probably go foreign. We need investment, not silly comments like Cook saying we can topple premiership hoops just ridiculous comment, they have a team full of quality and experience. Up The Cherries and for ever I will continue to support us but we need to take a real big look at ourselves and some realism needs to come into the equation. On another note, Palace, Sheff Wed, Barnsley all won last night and they have all recently sacked your managers, I hope Howe has not lost the changing room, but if he has he needs to go!!!!!!!! cherriesforlife79

9:02am Wed 4 Dec 13

ifordcherry says...

Yet another game without a win and STILL the blind are led by the blind....This IS relegation form and glossing up Eddie Howe and co will not change any of the past 7 results...We got a 1-1 draw against a very poor Brighton team that went on to lose at home to the mighty Barnsley....Face reality you disciples of EH,without a major change this club is in danger of not only getting relegated but if the unthinkable happens and Maxie boy chucks his newest toy away ??????...My opinion is that Max never reached the £££££ heights that he has by allowing sentiment to affect his business decisions.
Yet another game without a win and STILL the blind are led by the blind....This IS relegation form and glossing up Eddie Howe and co will not change any of the past 7 results...We got a 1-1 draw against a very poor Brighton team that went on to lose at home to the mighty Barnsley....Face reality you disciples of EH,without a major change this club is in danger of not only getting relegated but if the unthinkable happens and Maxie boy chucks his newest toy away ??????...My opinion is that Max never reached the £££££ heights that he has by allowing sentiment to affect his business decisions. ifordcherry

9:02am Wed 4 Dec 13

B'mth123 says...

Phil McG (Italy) wrote:
May I just point out that when we reached Division 2 (now the Championship) in 1987 as Division 3 Champions we spent our first season flirting with relegation. We only secured safety with our last home game of the season against Swindon. At no point did our fans call for the head of Harry Redknapp during that season. Why are people suggesting that Eddie Howe should be at risk?
Do you honestly believe that we are worse than Yeovil, Barnsley, Doncaster, Millwall, Sheffield Wednesday and Charlton? As long as we finish above 3 of those teams then that is all that matters.
Some people need to realise what supporting this club is really about and that FIFA on the playstation is not the real world.

UP THE CHERRIES!!
At the moment we are worse than all of those teams yes! Do you think we can go away and win at Watford 3 - 0? beat Burnley, Blackpool or Leicester......? It's all about when you play a team in this div and not who you play and at the moment we are the worst team in the league, by a clear mile. (Brighton dropped 2pts on Saturday and will be kicking themselves not taking all 3 from us during this "spell").

Eddie's job is to re group the players and get them believing again.

Also he has to make some tough decisions and be honest with himself and certain players and let go those that clearly cannot cut the grade in this div.

I believe Maxim will provide the funds in Jan for EH to sort it and I also believe he will do that. (but please Eddie, no more small skilful utility players), we need experience & steel + cutting edge in defence, midfield and of course upfront.
[quote][p][bold]Phil McG (Italy)[/bold] wrote: May I just point out that when we reached Division 2 (now the Championship) in 1987 as Division 3 Champions we spent our first season flirting with relegation. We only secured safety with our last home game of the season against Swindon. At no point did our fans call for the head of Harry Redknapp during that season. Why are people suggesting that Eddie Howe should be at risk? Do you honestly believe that we are worse than Yeovil, Barnsley, Doncaster, Millwall, Sheffield Wednesday and Charlton? As long as we finish above 3 of those teams then that is all that matters. Some people need to realise what supporting this club is really about and that FIFA on the playstation is not the real world. UP THE CHERRIES!![/p][/quote]At the moment we are worse than all of those teams yes! Do you think we can go away and win at Watford 3 - 0? beat Burnley, Blackpool or Leicester......? It's all about when you play a team in this div and not who you play and at the moment we are the worst team in the league, by a clear mile. (Brighton dropped 2pts on Saturday and will be kicking themselves not taking all 3 from us during this "spell"). Eddie's job is to re group the players and get them believing again. Also he has to make some tough decisions and be honest with himself and certain players and let go those that clearly cannot cut the grade in this div. I believe Maxim will provide the funds in Jan for EH to sort it and I also believe he will do that. (but please Eddie, no more small skilful utility players), we need experience & steel + cutting edge in defence, midfield and of course upfront. B'mth123

9:10am Wed 4 Dec 13

dc addict says...

Phil McG (Italy) wrote:
May I just point out that when we reached Division 2 (now the Championship) in 1987 as Division 3 Champions we spent our first season flirting with relegation. We only secured safety with our last home game of the season against Swindon. At no point did our fans call for the head of Harry Redknapp during that season. Why are people suggesting that Eddie Howe should be at risk?
Do you honestly believe that we are worse than Yeovil, Barnsley, Doncaster, Millwall, Sheffield Wednesday and Charlton? As long as we finish above 3 of those teams then that is all that matters.
Some people need to realise what supporting this club is really about and that FIFA on the playstation is not the real world.

UP THE CHERRIES!!
Quite right Phil, 4th from bottom will do for me too and I for one have no desire to see E and J sacked. It would be a stupid move by Maxim. However, despite his miracles, I do think Eddie has made errors and this is the forum to highlight them. I hope things turn around. None of us want the dramas of recent times. Patience please Mr Demin.
[quote][p][bold]Phil McG (Italy)[/bold] wrote: May I just point out that when we reached Division 2 (now the Championship) in 1987 as Division 3 Champions we spent our first season flirting with relegation. We only secured safety with our last home game of the season against Swindon. At no point did our fans call for the head of Harry Redknapp during that season. Why are people suggesting that Eddie Howe should be at risk? Do you honestly believe that we are worse than Yeovil, Barnsley, Doncaster, Millwall, Sheffield Wednesday and Charlton? As long as we finish above 3 of those teams then that is all that matters. Some people need to realise what supporting this club is really about and that FIFA on the playstation is not the real world. UP THE CHERRIES!![/p][/quote]Quite right Phil, 4th from bottom will do for me too and I for one have no desire to see E and J sacked. It would be a stupid move by Maxim. However, despite his miracles, I do think Eddie has made errors and this is the forum to highlight them. I hope things turn around. None of us want the dramas of recent times. Patience please Mr Demin. dc addict

9:10am Wed 4 Dec 13

pokesdown1 says...

The Russian?

Do you mean Max Demin?

Have some respect.
The Russian? Do you mean Max Demin? Have some respect. pokesdown1

9:11am Wed 4 Dec 13

TedMacsCherryPants says...

^ Enter stage left…Mr Paolo Di Canio, our new saviour!
^ Enter stage left…Mr Paolo Di Canio, our new saviour! TedMacsCherryPants

9:15am Wed 4 Dec 13

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road says...

B'mth123 wrote:
Absolutely clueless performance last night. I wouldn't mind so much if we loose but have given it a go.

Living close to Shepherds Bush I know several QPR season ticket holders. After the match their summary was that we are not the worst team technically that they have played this season, but by far the least threatening.

The affect that has with teams feeling comfortable against us is that they can push at us and only need 1 or 2 (in last night's case 3) chances and there is no way we can respond.

I can't see it getting better until the Jan window and I think by then we will be in the bottom 3 unless Eddie manages to come up with a system that his pathetically inept strike force can at least carry a smidge of a threat.

I think we should go back to day one of the season when Grabban & Thomas started (Thomas actually did really well) at least they were mobile and carried a threat.
Clearly you didn't see Thomas performance on saturday. The sooner he is gone the better. Totally lacking enthusiasm, he should be ashamed to pick up his wages, clearly he would rather be elsewhere and i would gladly drop him off.
I believe Mostyn and the board are still very much behind Eddie & Jason as are the vast majority of supporters. Idont see anyone offering a suitable replacment, and frankly it's embarassing the way some of moaners are calling for Eddie's head. Eddie always said he wanted to give last seasons squad a chance at this level, ok some may not be up to it, but at least give Eddie thechance to make the changes in January. Dont forget many of this squad were not signed by Eddie and his hands have been tied somewhat with the contracts they are on. Have some patience and keep the faith.!!!
[quote][p][bold]B'mth123[/bold] wrote: Absolutely clueless performance last night. I wouldn't mind so much if we loose but have given it a go. Living close to Shepherds Bush I know several QPR season ticket holders. After the match their summary was that we are not the worst team technically that they have played this season, but by far the least threatening. The affect that has with teams feeling comfortable against us is that they can push at us and only need 1 or 2 (in last night's case 3) chances and there is no way we can respond. I can't see it getting better until the Jan window and I think by then we will be in the bottom 3 unless Eddie manages to come up with a system that his pathetically inept strike force can at least carry a smidge of a threat. I think we should go back to day one of the season when Grabban & Thomas started (Thomas actually did really well) at least they were mobile and carried a threat.[/p][/quote]Clearly you didn't see Thomas performance on saturday. The sooner he is gone the better. Totally lacking enthusiasm, he should be ashamed to pick up his wages, clearly he would rather be elsewhere and i would gladly drop him off. I believe Mostyn and the board are still very much behind Eddie & Jason as are the vast majority of supporters. Idont see anyone offering a suitable replacment, and frankly it's embarassing the way some of moaners are calling for Eddie's head. Eddie always said he wanted to give last seasons squad a chance at this level, ok some may not be up to it, but at least give Eddie thechance to make the changes in January. Dont forget many of this squad were not signed by Eddie and his hands have been tied somewhat with the contracts they are on. Have some patience and keep the faith.!!! STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road

9:18am Wed 4 Dec 13

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road says...

TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
^ Enter stage left…Mr Paolo Di Canio, our new saviour!
NOT EVEN IN JEST Tedmac.!!!
[quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: ^ Enter stage left…Mr Paolo Di Canio, our new saviour![/p][/quote]NOT EVEN IN JEST Tedmac.!!! STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road

9:25am Wed 4 Dec 13

TedMacsCherryPants says...

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote: ^ Enter stage left…Mr Paolo Di Canio, our new saviour!
NOT EVEN IN JEST Tedmac.!!!
Apologies to all, but we don’t want to end up in Leeeeague Wan!
[quote][p][bold]STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: ^ Enter stage left…Mr Paolo Di Canio, our new saviour![/p][/quote]NOT EVEN IN JEST Tedmac.!!![/p][/quote]Apologies to all, but we don’t want to end up in Leeeeague Wan! TedMacsCherryPants

9:32am Wed 4 Dec 13

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road says...

TedMacsCherryPants wrote:
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:
TedMacsCherryPants wrote: ^ Enter stage left…Mr Paolo Di Canio, our new saviour!
NOT EVEN IN JEST Tedmac.!!!
Apologies to all, but we don’t want to end up in Leeeeague Wan!
On the bright side. If it does all go belly-up, at least you should be able to get a decent curry in Bradford or Walsall. :-)
[quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TedMacsCherryPants[/bold] wrote: ^ Enter stage left…Mr Paolo Di Canio, our new saviour![/p][/quote]NOT EVEN IN JEST Tedmac.!!![/p][/quote]Apologies to all, but we don’t want to end up in Leeeeague Wan![/p][/quote]On the bright side. If it does all go belly-up, at least you should be able to get a decent curry in Bradford or Walsall. :-) STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road

9:47am Wed 4 Dec 13

Afcbives says...

Ian holloway would be a decent replacement
Ian holloway would be a decent replacement Afcbives

9:49am Wed 4 Dec 13

contric says...

as i stated when eh was appointed on £15,000 a week they have created a bubble and it is being popped now and the abusive comments put on here when i commented with the bubble look ludicrous now because i live in the real world not airy fairy land like a lot of fans and i will tell fans now rantie is a complete waste of money
as i stated when eh was appointed on £15,000 a week they have created a bubble and it is being popped now and the abusive comments put on here when i commented with the bubble look ludicrous now because i live in the real world not airy fairy land like a lot of fans and i will tell fans now rantie is a complete waste of money contric

10:05am Wed 4 Dec 13

coops1965 says...

I cannot believe some of the negative sh*t I have read on this board you lot really are priceless, no heart , no soul , no belief , no faith , pathetic !

We are still a division 1 team playing in the big boys league and yes the honeymoon is over, but seriously have a bit of belief.

We were always going to get beaten by the bigger clubs and we were always going to struggle in the beginning because we have not yet grown as a team and adapted to this division. Some of the teams we are playing were in the bloody premiership over the last few years for Christ sake, get a reality check.
Nobody more than me gets more pi**ed off when we get beaten but we will do a lot better if we support the manager rather than if we give up on them now, get real you bunch of spineless fair weather fans.

Eddy Howe will get it right and he is the best man for the job.

U T C I A D.
I cannot believe some of the negative sh*t I have read on this board you lot really are priceless, no heart , no soul , no belief , no faith , pathetic ! We are still a division 1 team playing in the big boys league and yes the honeymoon is over, but seriously have a bit of belief. We were always going to get beaten by the bigger clubs and we were always going to struggle in the beginning because we have not yet grown as a team and adapted to this division. Some of the teams we are playing were in the bloody premiership over the last few years for Christ sake, get a reality check. Nobody more than me gets more pi**ed off when we get beaten but we will do a lot better if we support the manager rather than if we give up on them now, get real you bunch of spineless fair weather fans. Eddy Howe will get it right and he is the best man for the job. U T C I A D. coops1965

10:06am Wed 4 Dec 13

In Absentia says...

I really can't believe some of the comments about Eddie Howe on here. For a club with our support level and ground capacity, we are punching well above our weight just being in the Championship. It was also clearly stated that getting promoted last year was ahead of plan. Many overseas players take time to settle to the rigours of English league football and the time to judge Rantie will be next season. Too many people seem to have developed the memory capacity of a goldfish. Did people really think that this would be a comfortable season for us? A reality check is needed.
I really can't believe some of the comments about Eddie Howe on here. For a club with our support level and ground capacity, we are punching well above our weight just being in the Championship. It was also clearly stated that getting promoted last year was ahead of plan. Many overseas players take time to settle to the rigours of English league football and the time to judge Rantie will be next season. Too many people seem to have developed the memory capacity of a goldfish. Did people really think that this would be a comfortable season for us? A reality check is needed. In Absentia

10:24am Wed 4 Dec 13

Solentcherry says...

pokesdown1 wrote:
Fluky scores in the relegation zone?

Law 10 states....

The team scoring most goals shall win the game.
I know that pokesdown mate, but all three bottom clubs, two without managers, beating top of the league sides in one night ?.
That's flukey!
[quote][p][bold]pokesdown1[/bold] wrote: Fluky scores in the relegation zone? Law 10 states.... The team scoring most goals shall win the game.[/p][/quote]I know that pokesdown mate, but all three bottom clubs, two without managers, beating top of the league sides in one night ?. That's flukey! Solentcherry

10:41am Wed 4 Dec 13

a real supporter says...

Its time for Eddie to step up and prove his is able to manage at this level. Reading have sneaked up to 4th so a point on Saturday would be an achievement. Eddie needs to be given the next 3 homes games, Birmingham, Yeovil & Ipswich to prove he is capable otherwise, it has to be goodbye (sadly). He should not be given money in Jan to improve the team if we have not returned at least 6/9 points in December. Unfortunately, he has an unenviable task, as I cannot see how he can sort the striking problem with the players we have and a midfield that is continually overrun. I’m no expert but for sure we cannot compete starting with one forward and no support from the midfield. Hard decisions have to be made and a lot of work put in ASAP. Good luck Eddie UTCIAD
Its time for Eddie to step up and prove his is able to manage at this level. Reading have sneaked up to 4th so a point on Saturday would be an achievement. Eddie needs to be given the next 3 homes games, Birmingham, Yeovil & Ipswich to prove he is capable otherwise, it has to be goodbye (sadly). He should not be given money in Jan to improve the team if we have not returned at least 6/9 points in December. Unfortunately, he has an unenviable task, as I cannot see how he can sort the striking problem with the players we have and a midfield that is continually overrun. I’m no expert but for sure we cannot compete starting with one forward and no support from the midfield. Hard decisions have to be made and a lot of work put in ASAP. Good luck Eddie UTCIAD a real supporter

10:49am Wed 4 Dec 13

North stand badger says...

contric wrote:
as i stated when eh was appointed on £15,000 a week they have created a bubble and it is being popped now and the abusive comments put on here when i commented with the bubble look ludicrous now because i live in the real world not airy fairy land like a lot of fans and i will tell fans now rantie is a complete waste of money
We all bow down and doff our caps to you sir , a guru of football. i can't believe how we didn't spot the fact that Rantie is useless and EH and JT should be sacked. Thank you for pointing out the error of our ways and we can now go about our business having been shown the truth
[quote][p][bold]contric[/bold] wrote: as i stated when eh was appointed on £15,000 a week they have created a bubble and it is being popped now and the abusive comments put on here when i commented with the bubble look ludicrous now because i live in the real world not airy fairy land like a lot of fans and i will tell fans now rantie is a complete waste of money[/p][/quote]We all bow down and doff our caps to you sir , a guru of football. i can't believe how we didn't spot the fact that Rantie is useless and EH and JT should be sacked. Thank you for pointing out the error of our ways and we can now go about our business having been shown the truth North stand badger

11:03am Wed 4 Dec 13

devon fan says...

ASM wrote:
our next game is tough too, I expect us to lose that. Bring on January, we badly need a striker a centre midfielder, some full backs, a centre back and camp on a permanent contract.
As long as we stay out of the bottom three I am happy. UTC
I agree we badly need the players suggest, but having such a large squad I fear we will need to move a few on before we are able to bring anyone else in, and the only players that clubs will want will be the ones we want to keep, with one third of the squad permanently injured and a third of the fit ones never considered by Eddie it does not leave him much to choose from, it is quite obvious that Eddie is getting little response from the players who ar badly under acheiving, I do not feel that Mr Demin will be prepared to allow this to continue
[quote][p][bold]ASM[/bold] wrote: our next game is tough too, I expect us to lose that. Bring on January, we badly need a striker a centre midfielder, some full backs, a centre back and camp on a permanent contract. As long as we stay out of the bottom three I am happy. UTC[/p][/quote]I agree we badly need the players suggest, but having such a large squad I fear we will need to move a few on before we are able to bring anyone else in, and the only players that clubs will want will be the ones we want to keep, with one third of the squad permanently injured and a third of the fit ones never considered by Eddie it does not leave him much to choose from, it is quite obvious that Eddie is getting little response from the players who ar badly under acheiving, I do not feel that Mr Demin will be prepared to allow this to continue devon fan

11:14am Wed 4 Dec 13

Solentcherry says...

lockandload wrote:
Personally I don't want Eddie to be sacked but one win in 11 is sacking material for any manager. His belief in pitman and rantie is worrying , but he is making mistakes and decisions that are costing us points and our owners won't put up with it for much longer . Come on Eddie sort it out now!
I really hope the owner sticks with Eddie as I think he's the best manager this club has ever had. He will always be a legend here because of his achievements. Look where we are now and how far we've come and what we've been through.
BUT.........
We can all see that sometimes his tactics, based on his obsessive philosophy of how we should be playing ,maybe need changing now and then to suit . There is no plan B. we're being sussed by the opposition and can't or wont change our style to counter it.
Would be very ironic if a defeat to Harry's team led to Eddies dismissal.
[quote][p][bold]lockandload[/bold] wrote: Personally I don't want Eddie to be sacked but one win in 11 is sacking material for any manager. His belief in pitman and rantie is worrying , but he is making mistakes and decisions that are costing us points and our owners won't put up with it for much longer . Come on Eddie sort it out now![/p][/quote]I really hope the owner sticks with Eddie as I think he's the best manager this club has ever had. He will always be a legend here because of his achievements. Look where we are now and how far we've come and what we've been through. BUT......... We can all see that sometimes his tactics, based on his obsessive philosophy of how we should be playing ,maybe need changing now and then to suit . There is no plan B. we're being sussed by the opposition and can't or wont change our style to counter it. Would be very ironic if a defeat to Harry's team led to Eddies dismissal. Solentcherry

11:25am Wed 4 Dec 13

a real supporter says...

In Absentia (which presumably means you don’t attended any games) “the time to judge Rantie will be next season”. Well last night, because the away end is so near the pitch, we could all watch Rantie at close range and he is without doubt clueless. He wanders out to the wings to avoid going into the box, tries to beat 3 men, is always out of position, etc, etc he is mediocre at best and has absolutely no confidence. For example, he had a great chance when going through on the edge of the box and instead of taking it on for a 1 on 1 with the keeper or even the chance of being brought down for a penalty, he passed it out to the wing !!!. This is not the instinct of a forward. I assure you we cannot continue to start with him and hope he turns out OK next season. As for coops 1964 “Eddy Howe will get it right and he is the best man for the job” where’s your proof at this level?
In Absentia (which presumably means you don’t attended any games) “the time to judge Rantie will be next season”. Well last night, because the away end is so near the pitch, we could all watch Rantie at close range and he is without doubt clueless. He wanders out to the wings to avoid going into the box, tries to beat 3 men, is always out of position, etc, etc he is mediocre at best and has absolutely no confidence. For example, he had a great chance when going through on the edge of the box and instead of taking it on for a 1 on 1 with the keeper or even the chance of being brought down for a penalty, he passed it out to the wing !!!. This is not the instinct of a forward. I assure you we cannot continue to start with him and hope he turns out OK next season. As for coops 1964 “Eddy Howe will get it right and he is the best man for the job” where’s your proof at this level? a real supporter

11:28am Wed 4 Dec 13

redster says...

listened to the commentary last night, we had our moments but again just cannot score I never feel that rush of anticipation when we get in the box, as the move generally fizzles out, what is it with us and corner taking?
Willow said after the second goal we still have time! I thought nope never enough time for our "Strikers" .
We are still a good first div team trying to punch above our weight, the real fight now is between us and the lower strugglers!
Expect with our defence to unfortunately loose the next few games, then we really need to somehow pick up the pieces. Changes needed ? yes but what remains to be seen. We need to trust Eddie has some idea of how to get us moving again, and out of the losing/draw rut
listened to the commentary last night, we had our moments but again just cannot score I never feel that rush of anticipation when we get in the box, as the move generally fizzles out, what is it with us and corner taking? Willow said after the second goal we still have time! I thought nope never enough time for our "Strikers" . We are still a good first div team trying to punch above our weight, the real fight now is between us and the lower strugglers! Expect with our defence to unfortunately loose the next few games, then we really need to somehow pick up the pieces. Changes needed ? yes but what remains to be seen. We need to trust Eddie has some idea of how to get us moving again, and out of the losing/draw rut redster

11:38am Wed 4 Dec 13

abc100 says...

contric wrote:
as i stated when eh was appointed on £15,000 a week they have created a bubble and it is being popped now and the abusive comments put on here when i commented with the bubble look ludicrous now because i live in the real world not airy fairy land like a lot of fans and i will tell fans now rantie is a complete waste of money
15k, who says that, are you Eddies agent or related to him, were you present when his contract was negotiated or did the postmans cousins neighbour tell you cos he once knew a steward in the 70s!!!!
[quote][p][bold]contric[/bold] wrote: as i stated when eh was appointed on £15,000 a week they have created a bubble and it is being popped now and the abusive comments put on here when i commented with the bubble look ludicrous now because i live in the real world not airy fairy land like a lot of fans and i will tell fans now rantie is a complete waste of money[/p][/quote]15k, who says that, are you Eddies agent or related to him, were you present when his contract was negotiated or did the postmans cousins neighbour tell you cos he once knew a steward in the 70s!!!! abc100

11:44am Wed 4 Dec 13

mark.s says...

Even if we go down this season (which we wont) Howe should remain in charge. He's by far the best person for the job here.
Even if we go down this season (which we wont) Howe should remain in charge. He's by far the best person for the job here. mark.s

11:51am Wed 4 Dec 13

contric says...

i am saying what was reported in the echo £750,000 a year which works out at approx £15,000 a week the trouble is that some people only see and believe what they want to see as stated in a previous post i live in the real world and a bubble has been created and it is popping now i didnt become so successful by ignoring things good or bad thatwere staring me in the face an i am not eddies agent and i wasnt present when his contract was negotiated and i dont know the postman,s cousins neighbour who knew a steward in the 70,s
i am saying what was reported in the echo £750,000 a year which works out at approx £15,000 a week the trouble is that some people only see and believe what they want to see as stated in a previous post i live in the real world and a bubble has been created and it is popping now i didnt become so successful by ignoring things good or bad thatwere staring me in the face an i am not eddies agent and i wasnt present when his contract was negotiated and i dont know the postman,s cousins neighbour who knew a steward in the 70,s contric

12:06pm Wed 4 Dec 13

coops1965 says...

Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided.

You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board.

I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more.

I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way.

Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through.

If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame.

U T C I A D.
Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided. You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board. I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more. I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way. Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through. If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame. U T C I A D. coops1965

12:07pm Wed 4 Dec 13

bollybear says...

Get a grip,lads! Just compare the teams that were put out last night.. Do any of you really think we had a chance of winning ? They are Premiership players in all but name. Compare their wage bill with our own.
For those of you saying- "get rid of this or that player"-they are under contract ! In addition,a number of these players were not Eddie's signings.
Apart from Rantie,I feel his signings have been good. I am of the opinion that TK will be a far better player next year-so give him a chance.
So,if Eddie were replaced ,what team could the new man put out ? Imho, Eddie has earned the right to build his own team. No comparison between him and "cheque book " Redknapp.
Get a grip,lads! Just compare the teams that were put out last night.. Do any of you really think we had a chance of winning ? They are Premiership players in all but name. Compare their wage bill with our own. For those of you saying- "get rid of this or that player"-they are under contract ! In addition,a number of these players were not Eddie's signings. Apart from Rantie,I feel his signings have been good. I am of the opinion that TK will be a far better player next year-so give him a chance. So,if Eddie were replaced ,what team could the new man put out ? Imho, Eddie has earned the right to build his own team. No comparison between him and "cheque book " Redknapp. bollybear

12:24pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Wackerone says...

I think that I predicted Division one football for 2014/15 before this season started. Most of the fans here are severely deluded if they think the current crop of players are championship material. AFC is certainly not big enough for a championship club, never has been, never will be. As for blaming EH, you could bring in Brian Clough, Shanks and Fergie, the results would still be the same. Silk purse and Sows ear come to mind.
I think that I predicted Division one football for 2014/15 before this season started. Most of the fans here are severely deluded if they think the current crop of players are championship material. AFC is certainly not big enough for a championship club, never has been, never will be. As for blaming EH, you could bring in Brian Clough, Shanks and Fergie, the results would still be the same. Silk purse and Sows ear come to mind. Wackerone

12:38pm Wed 4 Dec 13

BackOfTheNet says...

Some are claiming we should sack EH for getting us to this division a year earlier than the squad was ready for?!

The squad with the most EH signings in this league is currently third in the table, they would be top if his current team hadn't won a superb point there recently :)

Which of the merry-go-round of poor managers should be appointed instead?

The stats last night suggest we had more possession and more efforts on goal. Sadly, we don't have as many experienced Premiership players to put away our chances.
Some are claiming we should sack EH for getting us to this division a year earlier than the squad was ready for?! The squad with the most EH signings in this league is currently third in the table, they would be top if his current team hadn't won a superb point there recently :) Which of the merry-go-round of poor managers should be appointed instead? The stats last night suggest we had more possession and more efforts on goal. Sadly, we don't have as many experienced Premiership players to put away our chances. BackOfTheNet

12:48pm Wed 4 Dec 13

North stand badger says...

Wackerone wrote:
I think that I predicted Division one football for 2014/15 before this season started. Most of the fans here are severely deluded if they think the current crop of players are championship material. AFC is certainly not big enough for a championship club, never has been, never will be. As for blaming EH, you could bring in Brian Clough, Shanks and Fergie, the results would still be the same. Silk purse and Sows ear come to mind.
Not another one! you all seem to be crawling our from under your stones.
[quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: I think that I predicted Division one football for 2014/15 before this season started. Most of the fans here are severely deluded if they think the current crop of players are championship material. AFC is certainly not big enough for a championship club, never has been, never will be. As for blaming EH, you could bring in Brian Clough, Shanks and Fergie, the results would still be the same. Silk purse and Sows ear come to mind.[/p][/quote]Not another one! you all seem to be crawling our from under your stones. North stand badger

12:53pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Afcbpete says...

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:
B'mth123 wrote:
Absolutely clueless performance last night. I wouldn't mind so much if we loose but have given it a go.

Living close to Shepherds Bush I know several QPR season ticket holders. After the match their summary was that we are not the worst team technically that they have played this season, but by far the least threatening.

The affect that has with teams feeling comfortable against us is that they can push at us and only need 1 or 2 (in last night's case 3) chances and there is no way we can respond.

I can't see it getting better until the Jan window and I think by then we will be in the bottom 3 unless Eddie manages to come up with a system that his pathetically inept strike force can at least carry a smidge of a threat.

I think we should go back to day one of the season when Grabban & Thomas started (Thomas actually did really well) at least they were mobile and carried a threat.
Clearly you didn't see Thomas performance on saturday. The sooner he is gone the better. Totally lacking enthusiasm, he should be ashamed to pick up his wages, clearly he would rather be elsewhere and i would gladly drop him off.
I believe Mostyn and the board are still very much behind Eddie & Jason as are the vast majority of supporters. Idont see anyone offering a suitable replacment, and frankly it's embarassing the way some of moaners are calling for Eddie's head. Eddie always said he wanted to give last seasons squad a chance at this level, ok some may not be up to it, but at least give Eddie thechance to make the changes in January. Dont forget many of this squad were not signed by Eddie and his hands have been tied somewhat with the contracts they are on. Have some patience and keep the faith.!!!
I've not bothered reading most of the stupid comments on here, Thank God I could rely on you to come up with a sensible post!!
We will continue to struggle until Eddie can bring in some quality in January. As you rightly say, this is still not Eddie's team, he's stuck with the likes of Thomas until he can off load a large number IMHO, but that may well take until the summer as contracts run down. I stand by everything I've written in the past, and whatever happens I'm always supporting Eddie/Jason and the team.... UTCIAD
[quote][p][bold]STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B'mth123[/bold] wrote: Absolutely clueless performance last night. I wouldn't mind so much if we loose but have given it a go. Living close to Shepherds Bush I know several QPR season ticket holders. After the match their summary was that we are not the worst team technically that they have played this season, but by far the least threatening. The affect that has with teams feeling comfortable against us is that they can push at us and only need 1 or 2 (in last night's case 3) chances and there is no way we can respond. I can't see it getting better until the Jan window and I think by then we will be in the bottom 3 unless Eddie manages to come up with a system that his pathetically inept strike force can at least carry a smidge of a threat. I think we should go back to day one of the season when Grabban & Thomas started (Thomas actually did really well) at least they were mobile and carried a threat.[/p][/quote]Clearly you didn't see Thomas performance on saturday. The sooner he is gone the better. Totally lacking enthusiasm, he should be ashamed to pick up his wages, clearly he would rather be elsewhere and i would gladly drop him off. I believe Mostyn and the board are still very much behind Eddie & Jason as are the vast majority of supporters. Idont see anyone offering a suitable replacment, and frankly it's embarassing the way some of moaners are calling for Eddie's head. Eddie always said he wanted to give last seasons squad a chance at this level, ok some may not be up to it, but at least give Eddie thechance to make the changes in January. Dont forget many of this squad were not signed by Eddie and his hands have been tied somewhat with the contracts they are on. Have some patience and keep the faith.!!![/p][/quote]I've not bothered reading most of the stupid comments on here, Thank God I could rely on you to come up with a sensible post!! We will continue to struggle until Eddie can bring in some quality in January. As you rightly say, this is still not Eddie's team, he's stuck with the likes of Thomas until he can off load a large number IMHO, but that may well take until the summer as contracts run down. I stand by everything I've written in the past, and whatever happens I'm always supporting Eddie/Jason and the team.... UTCIAD Afcbpete

1:15pm Wed 4 Dec 13

big_afcb_fan says...

we were very poor last night, time to bring in someone with championship credentials. ian holloway for me.
we were very poor last night, time to bring in someone with championship credentials. ian holloway for me. big_afcb_fan

1:16pm Wed 4 Dec 13

randomcherry says...

It's not crisis point, yet. All supporters should be enjoying the ride in this division and if you take a look around at all the long standing clubs in this league, a large majority of which are still on thier parachute payments and can therefore afford to attract players of a higher calibre, many of which have been released by premier clubs, you can see why we may struggle. There is a lot of dead wood that don't feature at all in the side but still have to be paid and surprisingly we can't off load as clubs just don't want the likes of Addison or Dermot. I think Rantie will come good, but i also think the insistence by the management in playing him has disrupted our ability up front. Stick with them Eddie and Jason are not bad managers over night.
It's not crisis point, yet. All supporters should be enjoying the ride in this division and if you take a look around at all the long standing clubs in this league, a large majority of which are still on thier parachute payments and can therefore afford to attract players of a higher calibre, many of which have been released by premier clubs, you can see why we may struggle. There is a lot of dead wood that don't feature at all in the side but still have to be paid and surprisingly we can't off load as clubs just don't want the likes of Addison or Dermot. I think Rantie will come good, but i also think the insistence by the management in playing him has disrupted our ability up front. Stick with them Eddie and Jason are not bad managers over night. randomcherry

1:20pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Afcbpete says...

randomcherry wrote:
It's not crisis point, yet. All supporters should be enjoying the ride in this division and if you take a look around at all the long standing clubs in this league, a large majority of which are still on thier parachute payments and can therefore afford to attract players of a higher calibre, many of which have been released by premier clubs, you can see why we may struggle. There is a lot of dead wood that don't feature at all in the side but still have to be paid and surprisingly we can't off load as clubs just don't want the likes of Addison or Dermot. I think Rantie will come good, but i also think the insistence by the management in playing him has disrupted our ability up front. Stick with them Eddie and Jason are not bad managers over night.
I've been saying similar for weeks, but the doom and gloom merchants won't listen, I'm giving up wasting my time on them. Just let them get depressed LOL
[quote][p][bold]randomcherry[/bold] wrote: It's not crisis point, yet. All supporters should be enjoying the ride in this division and if you take a look around at all the long standing clubs in this league, a large majority of which are still on thier parachute payments and can therefore afford to attract players of a higher calibre, many of which have been released by premier clubs, you can see why we may struggle. There is a lot of dead wood that don't feature at all in the side but still have to be paid and surprisingly we can't off load as clubs just don't want the likes of Addison or Dermot. I think Rantie will come good, but i also think the insistence by the management in playing him has disrupted our ability up front. Stick with them Eddie and Jason are not bad managers over night.[/p][/quote]I've been saying similar for weeks, but the doom and gloom merchants won't listen, I'm giving up wasting my time on them. Just let them get depressed LOL Afcbpete

1:44pm Wed 4 Dec 13

coops1965 says...

Wackerone wrote:
I think that I predicted Division one football for 2014/15 before this season started. Most of the fans here are severely deluded if they think the current crop of players are championship material. AFC is certainly not big enough for a championship club, never has been, never will be. As for blaming EH, you could bring in Brian Clough, Shanks and Fergie, the results would still be the same. Silk purse and Sows ear come to mind.
Are you as thick as the others on here ?
We need time and we will survive, we will go to market once the window opens and Eddy will get it right, you are just another I told you so merchant.

Oh and by the way who the hell are AFC, HMMM Arsenal, Aberdeen ?
Our club is ATHLETIC FOOTBALL CLUB BOURNEMOUTH. AFCB !

U T C I A D.
[quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: I think that I predicted Division one football for 2014/15 before this season started. Most of the fans here are severely deluded if they think the current crop of players are championship material. AFC is certainly not big enough for a championship club, never has been, never will be. As for blaming EH, you could bring in Brian Clough, Shanks and Fergie, the results would still be the same. Silk purse and Sows ear come to mind.[/p][/quote]Are you as thick as the others on here ? We need time and we will survive, we will go to market once the window opens and Eddy will get it right, you are just another I told you so merchant. Oh and by the way who the hell are AFC, HMMM Arsenal, Aberdeen ? Our club is ATHLETIC FOOTBALL CLUB BOURNEMOUTH. AFCB ! U T C I A D. coops1965

1:45pm Wed 4 Dec 13

cherrygood says...

It's so easy to be negative and it's no surprise that people who haven't posted in a while are starting to crawl back out the woodwork.
Yes we are playing poorly at the moment.
Yes we are low on confidence.
Yes we are probably a bit lightweight in midfield and attack right now.
This is probably Eddie Howe's first true test as manager at this club. Before now he has come in when things have been tough and has rescued us from oblivion. This time he has been at the helm going into this low period and he should be given time to find a solution.
It's possible that all we need is a bit of good fortune and a lucky win against a good side and then the confidence and results may return.
It's also possible that we need to bring in one or two players on loan or in the January window but that is down to Eddie and Mr Demin.
At the end of the day the target is at least fourth from bottom, and we haven't even got to half way in the season. Better to have your bad run in November and December as opposed to March and April.
It's so easy to be negative and it's no surprise that people who haven't posted in a while are starting to crawl back out the woodwork. Yes we are playing poorly at the moment. Yes we are low on confidence. Yes we are probably a bit lightweight in midfield and attack right now. This is probably Eddie Howe's first true test as manager at this club. Before now he has come in when things have been tough and has rescued us from oblivion. This time he has been at the helm going into this low period and he should be given time to find a solution. It's possible that all we need is a bit of good fortune and a lucky win against a good side and then the confidence and results may return. It's also possible that we need to bring in one or two players on loan or in the January window but that is down to Eddie and Mr Demin. At the end of the day the target is at least fourth from bottom, and we haven't even got to half way in the season. Better to have your bad run in November and December as opposed to March and April. cherrygood

2:22pm Wed 4 Dec 13

balsallcherry says...

The negativity has been around on here and on the vital cherries site for a few weeks now. We need to sell off the deadwood - if we can sell them to anyone - and we do need some loan signings. That said, there have seen some good performances from Cookie and Ritchie who appear capable of the step up, We have others too but they need better players around them to flourish. We have a good and well respected manager/assistant combination but the whole thing will take time. We made Brighton look average and thankful for a 'wonder goal'. We played really well at Burnley too. There have been some poor performaces as well but show me a team in any league that doesn't do that. We have some good games coming up in December that we have a good chance of winning - that could boost confidence all round - the window will then be open and we need people to go as well as come in during that period. Lets keep believing. We had a bit of a good start and expectations were on the rise. Unless I'm mistaken, the team that finishes fourth from bottom will be in the Championship next year. UTC.
The negativity has been around on here and on the vital cherries site for a few weeks now. We need to sell off the deadwood - if we can sell them to anyone - and we do need some loan signings. That said, there have seen some good performances from Cookie and Ritchie who appear capable of the step up, We have others too but they need better players around them to flourish. We have a good and well respected manager/assistant combination but the whole thing will take time. We made Brighton look average and thankful for a 'wonder goal'. We played really well at Burnley too. There have been some poor performaces as well but show me a team in any league that doesn't do that. We have some good games coming up in December that we have a good chance of winning - that could boost confidence all round - the window will then be open and we need people to go as well as come in during that period. Lets keep believing. We had a bit of a good start and expectations were on the rise. Unless I'm mistaken, the team that finishes fourth from bottom will be in the Championship next year. UTC. balsallcherry

2:32pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Afcbpete says...

balsallcherry wrote:
The negativity has been around on here and on the vital cherries site for a few weeks now. We need to sell off the deadwood - if we can sell them to anyone - and we do need some loan signings. That said, there have seen some good performances from Cookie and Ritchie who appear capable of the step up, We have others too but they need better players around them to flourish. We have a good and well respected manager/assistant combination but the whole thing will take time. We made Brighton look average and thankful for a 'wonder goal'. We played really well at Burnley too. There have been some poor performaces as well but show me a team in any league that doesn't do that. We have some good games coming up in December that we have a good chance of winning - that could boost confidence all round - the window will then be open and we need people to go as well as come in during that period. Lets keep believing. We had a bit of a good start and expectations were on the rise. Unless I'm mistaken, the team that finishes fourth from bottom will be in the Championship next year. UTC.
Spot on, I've said many times, we're very close to being a very good side. Add a bit more quality in January and there will be a big difference.... UTCIAD
[quote][p][bold]balsallcherry[/bold] wrote: The negativity has been around on here and on the vital cherries site for a few weeks now. We need to sell off the deadwood - if we can sell them to anyone - and we do need some loan signings. That said, there have seen some good performances from Cookie and Ritchie who appear capable of the step up, We have others too but they need better players around them to flourish. We have a good and well respected manager/assistant combination but the whole thing will take time. We made Brighton look average and thankful for a 'wonder goal'. We played really well at Burnley too. There have been some poor performaces as well but show me a team in any league that doesn't do that. We have some good games coming up in December that we have a good chance of winning - that could boost confidence all round - the window will then be open and we need people to go as well as come in during that period. Lets keep believing. We had a bit of a good start and expectations were on the rise. Unless I'm mistaken, the team that finishes fourth from bottom will be in the Championship next year. UTC.[/p][/quote]Spot on, I've said many times, we're very close to being a very good side. Add a bit more quality in January and there will be a big difference.... UTCIAD Afcbpete

2:36pm Wed 4 Dec 13

dustbindanny says...

This club is not awash with money, our gates average 7-8 k home fans, we cannot compete financially with clubs in the 15k plus crowds,who probably get double the revenue we do? Eddie seems to have too many players at his disposal, and there are obviously some he does not think are up to this league,therefore he ( at the moment) has to pick what he thinks is the best available ,all these players have contracts with the club and have to be paid wether they play or not,this all comes out of the playing budget and until he can offload some of the 'hangers on' we are going to see much of the same? I think Mr demin knows eddie predicament and will stick by him for the time being? My only 'jip', against Eddie is, I think he trusts in Brett to much?
This club is not awash with money, our gates average 7-8 k home fans, we cannot compete financially with clubs in the 15k plus crowds,who probably get double the revenue we do? Eddie seems to have too many players at his disposal, and there are obviously some he does not think are up to this league,therefore he ( at the moment) has to pick what he thinks is the best available ,all these players have contracts with the club and have to be paid wether they play or not,this all comes out of the playing budget and until he can offload some of the 'hangers on' we are going to see much of the same? I think Mr demin knows eddie predicament and will stick by him for the time being? My only 'jip', against Eddie is, I think he trusts in Brett to much? dustbindanny

2:39pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Dukecherry says...

It has to be said that EH has his back to the wall now. The divided opinion of the supporters of the club of his stewardship so far, goes a long way to reflect the difficult position he finds himself in.
Regardless of whether EH stays or goes, the club and the fans will pay a heavy price. In the end it may come to a damage limitation exercise. Sacking him will involve compensation and, more importantly, disruption that we can do without. Keeping him, on the other hand, may leave that glimmer of hope that he can keep us in this division. But if that does not happen the burden will be too big to shoulder by the owners.
For the fans who want to bring in more players I must say that is digging ourselves into a bigger hole than the one we are in now. Several concerns had been expressed about EH's methods of signing players trying to fill positions where we had depth and leaving the lines, where we were thin, exposed. If we want to go out and buy or take a player on loan every time we have an injury, I do not know when will the team gel together and when will EH consolidate. Equally, the cost will be high for the return, as we have seen.
Judging by the posts, commentaries on different websites and reactions, one can easily assume that the team that matched Wigan step for step in the League Cup last season played better than that of last night and previous games-remember we were plying a PL side. Not allowing some of the players who featured in both games to show what they can do for the club may prove detrimental to EH's reputation, or what will be left of it by the time we drop into the relegation zone.
It has to be said that EH has his back to the wall now. The divided opinion of the supporters of the club of his stewardship so far, goes a long way to reflect the difficult position he finds himself in. Regardless of whether EH stays or goes, the club and the fans will pay a heavy price. In the end it may come to a damage limitation exercise. Sacking him will involve compensation and, more importantly, disruption that we can do without. Keeping him, on the other hand, may leave that glimmer of hope that he can keep us in this division. But if that does not happen the burden will be too big to shoulder by the owners. For the fans who want to bring in more players I must say that is digging ourselves into a bigger hole than the one we are in now. Several concerns had been expressed about EH's methods of signing players trying to fill positions where we had depth and leaving the lines, where we were thin, exposed. If we want to go out and buy or take a player on loan every time we have an injury, I do not know when will the team gel together and when will EH consolidate. Equally, the cost will be high for the return, as we have seen. Judging by the posts, commentaries on different websites and reactions, one can easily assume that the team that matched Wigan step for step in the League Cup last season played better than that of last night and previous games-remember we were plying a PL side. Not allowing some of the players who featured in both games to show what they can do for the club may prove detrimental to EH's reputation, or what will be left of it by the time we drop into the relegation zone. Dukecherry

5:44pm Wed 4 Dec 13

B'mth123 says...

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:
B'mth123 wrote:
Absolutely clueless performance last night. I wouldn't mind so much if we loose but have given it a go.

Living close to Shepherds Bush I know several QPR season ticket holders. After the match their summary was that we are not the worst team technically that they have played this season, but by far the least threatening.

The affect that has with teams feeling comfortable against us is that they can push at us and only need 1 or 2 (in last night's case 3) chances and there is no way we can respond.

I can't see it getting better until the Jan window and I think by then we will be in the bottom 3 unless Eddie manages to come up with a system that his pathetically inept strike force can at least carry a smidge of a threat.

I think we should go back to day one of the season when Grabban & Thomas started (Thomas actually did really well) at least they were mobile and carried a threat.
Clearly you didn't see Thomas performance on saturday. The sooner he is gone the better. Totally lacking enthusiasm, he should be ashamed to pick up his wages, clearly he would rather be elsewhere and i would gladly drop him off.
I believe Mostyn and the board are still very much behind Eddie & Jason as are the vast majority of supporters. Idont see anyone offering a suitable replacment, and frankly it's embarassing the way some of moaners are calling for Eddie's head. Eddie always said he wanted to give last seasons squad a chance at this level, ok some may not be up to it, but at least give Eddie thechance to make the changes in January. Dont forget many of this squad were not signed by Eddie and his hands have been tied somewhat with the contracts they are on. Have some patience and keep the faith.!!!
Hi Steady Eddie,

Yes I did see the game on Saturday and Thomas wasn't really on long enough to pass judgement on, he did no better or worse than others.

As we simply lack options (until the Jan window) I think it's worth giving Thomas a 4 or 5 game starting run in the team, he either comes through or not.

Pitman is not clearly up to this level of football and if one was looking from the outside you could also accuse him of being lazy and appearing uninterested etc... but at least he has been given a run of games.

I am also confident that EH will sort this out in time and keep us up in the Championship.
[quote][p][bold]STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B'mth123[/bold] wrote: Absolutely clueless performance last night. I wouldn't mind so much if we loose but have given it a go. Living close to Shepherds Bush I know several QPR season ticket holders. After the match their summary was that we are not the worst team technically that they have played this season, but by far the least threatening. The affect that has with teams feeling comfortable against us is that they can push at us and only need 1 or 2 (in last night's case 3) chances and there is no way we can respond. I can't see it getting better until the Jan window and I think by then we will be in the bottom 3 unless Eddie manages to come up with a system that his pathetically inept strike force can at least carry a smidge of a threat. I think we should go back to day one of the season when Grabban & Thomas started (Thomas actually did really well) at least they were mobile and carried a threat.[/p][/quote]Clearly you didn't see Thomas performance on saturday. The sooner he is gone the better. Totally lacking enthusiasm, he should be ashamed to pick up his wages, clearly he would rather be elsewhere and i would gladly drop him off. I believe Mostyn and the board are still very much behind Eddie & Jason as are the vast majority of supporters. Idont see anyone offering a suitable replacment, and frankly it's embarassing the way some of moaners are calling for Eddie's head. Eddie always said he wanted to give last seasons squad a chance at this level, ok some may not be up to it, but at least give Eddie thechance to make the changes in January. Dont forget many of this squad were not signed by Eddie and his hands have been tied somewhat with the contracts they are on. Have some patience and keep the faith.!!![/p][/quote]Hi Steady Eddie, Yes I did see the game on Saturday and Thomas wasn't really on long enough to pass judgement on, he did no better or worse than others. As we simply lack options (until the Jan window) I think it's worth giving Thomas a 4 or 5 game starting run in the team, he either comes through or not. Pitman is not clearly up to this level of football and if one was looking from the outside you could also accuse him of being lazy and appearing uninterested etc... but at least he has been given a run of games. I am also confident that EH will sort this out in time and keep us up in the Championship. B'mth123

5:45pm Wed 4 Dec 13

ifordcherry says...

coops1965 wrote:
Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided.

You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board.

I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more.

I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way.

Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through.

If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame.

U T C I A D.
What a load of drivel you are spouting young coops....Football is a business and is results driven and Eddie Howe has not produced...Do you honestly think that Demin will be hanging around if we get relegated ??....If you had someone working for you and he gave you a 5% return when your staff target might be 60%+,Would you keep him on and pay him the same as the success boys...DON`T THINK SO COOPS !...Did Arsenal or Man U get relegated under the 2 managers you mention and would they have kept their jobs if they had ??...Also he is so Bournemouth through and through that the sunny climates of Burnley were just too much of a pull for him were they ??....People other than you are allowed their opinions me old fruit and yes U T C I A D.
[quote][p][bold]coops1965[/bold] wrote: Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided. You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board. I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more. I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way. Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through. If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame. U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]What a load of drivel you are spouting young coops....Football is a business and is results driven and Eddie Howe has not produced...Do you honestly think that Demin will be hanging around if we get relegated ??....If you had someone working for you and he gave you a 5% return when your staff target might be 60%+,Would you keep him on and pay him the same as the success boys...DON`T THINK SO COOPS !...Did Arsenal or Man U get relegated under the 2 managers you mention and would they have kept their jobs if they had ??...Also he is so Bournemouth through and through that the sunny climates of Burnley were just too much of a pull for him were they ??....People other than you are allowed their opinions me old fruit and yes U T C I A D. ifordcherry

6:02pm Wed 4 Dec 13

the amazon returns again says...

abc100 wrote:
contric wrote:
as i stated when eh was appointed on £15,000 a week they have created a bubble and it is being popped now and the abusive comments put on here when i commented with the bubble look ludicrous now because i live in the real world not airy fairy land like a lot of fans and i will tell fans now rantie is a complete waste of money
15k, who says that, are you Eddies agent or related to him, were you present when his contract was negotiated or did the postmans cousins neighbour tell you cos he once knew a steward in the 70s!!!!
Howe is on 15k a week FACT, heard this from the horses mouth. Howe is not cutting it and the sooner you lot see reality the better. He will take us down.
[quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]contric[/bold] wrote: as i stated when eh was appointed on £15,000 a week they have created a bubble and it is being popped now and the abusive comments put on here when i commented with the bubble look ludicrous now because i live in the real world not airy fairy land like a lot of fans and i will tell fans now rantie is a complete waste of money[/p][/quote]15k, who says that, are you Eddies agent or related to him, were you present when his contract was negotiated or did the postmans cousins neighbour tell you cos he once knew a steward in the 70s!!!![/p][/quote]Howe is on 15k a week FACT, heard this from the horses mouth. Howe is not cutting it and the sooner you lot see reality the better. He will take us down. the amazon returns again

6:32pm Wed 4 Dec 13

WHYNOT says...

ifordcherry wrote:
coops1965 wrote:
Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided.

You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board.

I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more.

I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way.

Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through.

If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame.

U T C I A D.
What a load of drivel you are spouting young coops....Football is a business and is results driven and Eddie Howe has not produced...Do you honestly think that Demin will be hanging around if we get relegated ??....If you had someone working for you and he gave you a 5% return when your staff target might be 60%+,Would you keep him on and pay him the same as the success boys...DON`T THINK SO COOPS !...Did Arsenal or Man U get relegated under the 2 managers you mention and would they have kept their jobs if they had ??...Also he is so Bournemouth through and through that the sunny climates of Burnley were just too much of a pull for him were they ??....People other than you are allowed their opinions me old fruit and yes U T C I A D.
yep he is so Bournemouth through and through he had agreed to go to Burnley before he came on tv and said he was staying here.
[quote][p][bold]ifordcherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]coops1965[/bold] wrote: Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided. You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board. I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more. I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way. Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through. If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame. U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]What a load of drivel you are spouting young coops....Football is a business and is results driven and Eddie Howe has not produced...Do you honestly think that Demin will be hanging around if we get relegated ??....If you had someone working for you and he gave you a 5% return when your staff target might be 60%+,Would you keep him on and pay him the same as the success boys...DON`T THINK SO COOPS !...Did Arsenal or Man U get relegated under the 2 managers you mention and would they have kept their jobs if they had ??...Also he is so Bournemouth through and through that the sunny climates of Burnley were just too much of a pull for him were they ??....People other than you are allowed their opinions me old fruit and yes U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]yep he is so Bournemouth through and through he had agreed to go to Burnley before he came on tv and said he was staying here. WHYNOT

7:18pm Wed 4 Dec 13

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road says...

WHYNOT wrote:
ifordcherry wrote:
coops1965 wrote:
Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided.

You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board.

I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more.

I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way.

Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through.

If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame.

U T C I A D.
What a load of drivel you are spouting young coops....Football is a business and is results driven and Eddie Howe has not produced...Do you honestly think that Demin will be hanging around if we get relegated ??....If you had someone working for you and he gave you a 5% return when your staff target might be 60%+,Would you keep him on and pay him the same as the success boys...DON`T THINK SO COOPS !...Did Arsenal or Man U get relegated under the 2 managers you mention and would they have kept their jobs if they had ??...Also he is so Bournemouth through and through that the sunny climates of Burnley were just too much of a pull for him were they ??....People other than you are allowed their opinions me old fruit and yes U T C I A D.
yep he is so Bournemouth through and through he had agreed to go to Burnley before he came on tv and said he was staying here.
What a short sited view you have.
It was well documented at the time that Mitchell's medalling in team affairs was the main reason Eddie wanted out. Any manager with ambition wants to ply their trade at the highest possible level, and at that time Eddies stock was at it's highest. The man shed tears after his last game at Colchester.
We all knew that Mitchell wanted (needed) the compo money from Burnley to keep the club afloat. I suspect that when Eddie stood there in front of the cameras and told us he was staying, he had just agreed a new deal with Mitchell on increased wages in order to bump-up any compansation deal, thus getting the best deal possible for the club.
That my friend is the actions of a man who cares very much about this club and his loyalty is without question admirable, which is more than can be said for some on here. Hang your heads in shame.
[quote][p][bold]WHYNOT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ifordcherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]coops1965[/bold] wrote: Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided. You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board. I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more. I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way. Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through. If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame. U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]What a load of drivel you are spouting young coops....Football is a business and is results driven and Eddie Howe has not produced...Do you honestly think that Demin will be hanging around if we get relegated ??....If you had someone working for you and he gave you a 5% return when your staff target might be 60%+,Would you keep him on and pay him the same as the success boys...DON`T THINK SO COOPS !...Did Arsenal or Man U get relegated under the 2 managers you mention and would they have kept their jobs if they had ??...Also he is so Bournemouth through and through that the sunny climates of Burnley were just too much of a pull for him were they ??....People other than you are allowed their opinions me old fruit and yes U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]yep he is so Bournemouth through and through he had agreed to go to Burnley before he came on tv and said he was staying here.[/p][/quote]What a short sited view you have. It was well documented at the time that Mitchell's medalling in team affairs was the main reason Eddie wanted out. Any manager with ambition wants to ply their trade at the highest possible level, and at that time Eddies stock was at it's highest. The man shed tears after his last game at Colchester. We all knew that Mitchell wanted (needed) the compo money from Burnley to keep the club afloat. I suspect that when Eddie stood there in front of the cameras and told us he was staying, he had just agreed a new deal with Mitchell on increased wages in order to bump-up any compansation deal, thus getting the best deal possible for the club. That my friend is the actions of a man who cares very much about this club and his loyalty is without question admirable, which is more than can be said for some on here. Hang your heads in shame. STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road

7:33pm Wed 4 Dec 13

WHYNOT says...

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:
WHYNOT wrote:
ifordcherry wrote:
coops1965 wrote:
Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided.

You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board.

I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more.

I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way.

Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through.

If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame.

U T C I A D.
What a load of drivel you are spouting young coops....Football is a business and is results driven and Eddie Howe has not produced...Do you honestly think that Demin will be hanging around if we get relegated ??....If you had someone working for you and he gave you a 5% return when your staff target might be 60%+,Would you keep him on and pay him the same as the success boys...DON`T THINK SO COOPS !...Did Arsenal or Man U get relegated under the 2 managers you mention and would they have kept their jobs if they had ??...Also he is so Bournemouth through and through that the sunny climates of Burnley were just too much of a pull for him were they ??....People other than you are allowed their opinions me old fruit and yes U T C I A D.
yep he is so Bournemouth through and through he had agreed to go to Burnley before he came on tv and said he was staying here.
What a short sited view you have.
It was well documented at the time that Mitchell's medalling in team affairs was the main reason Eddie wanted out. Any manager with ambition wants to ply their trade at the highest possible level, and at that time Eddies stock was at it's highest. The man shed tears after his last game at Colchester.
We all knew that Mitchell wanted (needed) the compo money from Burnley to keep the club afloat. I suspect that when Eddie stood there in front of the cameras and told us he was staying, he had just agreed a new deal with Mitchell on increased wages in order to bump-up any compansation deal, thus getting the best deal possible for the club.
That my friend is the actions of a man who cares very much about this club and his loyalty is without question admirable, which is more than can be said for some on here. Hang your heads in shame.
not short sited at all just fact, Burnley came in for him when he was talking to charlton and palace but their chairman was abroad and no deal could be done untill he came back
[quote][p][bold]STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WHYNOT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ifordcherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]coops1965[/bold] wrote: Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided. You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board. I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more. I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way. Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through. If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame. U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]What a load of drivel you are spouting young coops....Football is a business and is results driven and Eddie Howe has not produced...Do you honestly think that Demin will be hanging around if we get relegated ??....If you had someone working for you and he gave you a 5% return when your staff target might be 60%+,Would you keep him on and pay him the same as the success boys...DON`T THINK SO COOPS !...Did Arsenal or Man U get relegated under the 2 managers you mention and would they have kept their jobs if they had ??...Also he is so Bournemouth through and through that the sunny climates of Burnley were just too much of a pull for him were they ??....People other than you are allowed their opinions me old fruit and yes U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]yep he is so Bournemouth through and through he had agreed to go to Burnley before he came on tv and said he was staying here.[/p][/quote]What a short sited view you have. It was well documented at the time that Mitchell's medalling in team affairs was the main reason Eddie wanted out. Any manager with ambition wants to ply their trade at the highest possible level, and at that time Eddies stock was at it's highest. The man shed tears after his last game at Colchester. We all knew that Mitchell wanted (needed) the compo money from Burnley to keep the club afloat. I suspect that when Eddie stood there in front of the cameras and told us he was staying, he had just agreed a new deal with Mitchell on increased wages in order to bump-up any compansation deal, thus getting the best deal possible for the club. That my friend is the actions of a man who cares very much about this club and his loyalty is without question admirable, which is more than can be said for some on here. Hang your heads in shame.[/p][/quote]not short sited at all just fact, Burnley came in for him when he was talking to charlton and palace but their chairman was abroad and no deal could be done untill he came back WHYNOT

7:38pm Wed 4 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

coops1965 wrote:
I cannot believe some of the negative sh*t I have read on this board you lot really are priceless, no heart , no soul , no belief , no faith , pathetic !

We are still a division 1 team playing in the big boys league and yes the honeymoon is over, but seriously have a bit of belief.

We were always going to get beaten by the bigger clubs and we were always going to struggle in the beginning because we have not yet grown as a team and adapted to this division. Some of the teams we are playing were in the bloody premiership over the last few years for Christ sake, get a reality check.
Nobody more than me gets more pi**ed off when we get beaten but we will do a lot better if we support the manager rather than if we give up on them now, get real you bunch of spineless fair weather fans.

Eddy Howe will get it right and he is the best man for the job.

U T C I A D.
you dont watch the matches then, cant you see Howe cant pick a team.
Last night Hart should of played, why does Addison not get a bench warmer place? where was the new Arsenal loanee, why is Pitman still playing, when he is off form. these questions need answers, and by the way its every game we are weak. If Howe cant see it he needs to go.
[quote][p][bold]coops1965[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe some of the negative sh*t I have read on this board you lot really are priceless, no heart , no soul , no belief , no faith , pathetic ! We are still a division 1 team playing in the big boys league and yes the honeymoon is over, but seriously have a bit of belief. We were always going to get beaten by the bigger clubs and we were always going to struggle in the beginning because we have not yet grown as a team and adapted to this division. Some of the teams we are playing were in the bloody premiership over the last few years for Christ sake, get a reality check. Nobody more than me gets more pi**ed off when we get beaten but we will do a lot better if we support the manager rather than if we give up on them now, get real you bunch of spineless fair weather fans. Eddy Howe will get it right and he is the best man for the job. U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]you dont watch the matches then, cant you see Howe cant pick a team. Last night Hart should of played, why does Addison not get a bench warmer place? where was the new Arsenal loanee, why is Pitman still playing, when he is off form. these questions need answers, and by the way its every game we are weak. If Howe cant see it he needs to go. holdinkæft

7:42pm Wed 4 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

mark.s wrote:
Even if we go down this season (which we wont) Howe should remain in charge. He's by far the best person for the job here.
WHY, he needs a white stick.
[quote][p][bold]mark.s[/bold] wrote: Even if we go down this season (which we wont) Howe should remain in charge. He's by far the best person for the job here.[/p][/quote]WHY, he needs a white stick. holdinkæft

7:44pm Wed 4 Dec 13

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road says...

WHYNOT wrote:
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:
WHYNOT wrote:
ifordcherry wrote:
coops1965 wrote:
Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided.

You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board.

I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more.

I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way.

Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through.

If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame.

U T C I A D.
What a load of drivel you are spouting young coops....Football is a business and is results driven and Eddie Howe has not produced...Do you honestly think that Demin will be hanging around if we get relegated ??....If you had someone working for you and he gave you a 5% return when your staff target might be 60%+,Would you keep him on and pay him the same as the success boys...DON`T THINK SO COOPS !...Did Arsenal or Man U get relegated under the 2 managers you mention and would they have kept their jobs if they had ??...Also he is so Bournemouth through and through that the sunny climates of Burnley were just too much of a pull for him were they ??....People other than you are allowed their opinions me old fruit and yes U T C I A D.
yep he is so Bournemouth through and through he had agreed to go to Burnley before he came on tv and said he was staying here.
What a short sited view you have.
It was well documented at the time that Mitchell's medalling in team affairs was the main reason Eddie wanted out. Any manager with ambition wants to ply their trade at the highest possible level, and at that time Eddies stock was at it's highest. The man shed tears after his last game at Colchester.
We all knew that Mitchell wanted (needed) the compo money from Burnley to keep the club afloat. I suspect that when Eddie stood there in front of the cameras and told us he was staying, he had just agreed a new deal with Mitchell on increased wages in order to bump-up any compansation deal, thus getting the best deal possible for the club.
That my friend is the actions of a man who cares very much about this club and his loyalty is without question admirable, which is more than can be said for some on here. Hang your heads in shame.
not short sited at all just fact, Burnley came in for him when he was talking to charlton and palace but their chairman was abroad and no deal could be done untill he came back
Dont forget that at that time Eddie and Jason were reportedly only on 80k p.a and i believe only had 18 months left on their contracts??? I will let you do the maths but it aint anywhere near the 400k compo we got from Burnley.
[quote][p][bold]WHYNOT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WHYNOT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ifordcherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]coops1965[/bold] wrote: Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided. You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board. I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more. I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way. Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through. If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame. U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]What a load of drivel you are spouting young coops....Football is a business and is results driven and Eddie Howe has not produced...Do you honestly think that Demin will be hanging around if we get relegated ??....If you had someone working for you and he gave you a 5% return when your staff target might be 60%+,Would you keep him on and pay him the same as the success boys...DON`T THINK SO COOPS !...Did Arsenal or Man U get relegated under the 2 managers you mention and would they have kept their jobs if they had ??...Also he is so Bournemouth through and through that the sunny climates of Burnley were just too much of a pull for him were they ??....People other than you are allowed their opinions me old fruit and yes U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]yep he is so Bournemouth through and through he had agreed to go to Burnley before he came on tv and said he was staying here.[/p][/quote]What a short sited view you have. It was well documented at the time that Mitchell's medalling in team affairs was the main reason Eddie wanted out. Any manager with ambition wants to ply their trade at the highest possible level, and at that time Eddies stock was at it's highest. The man shed tears after his last game at Colchester. We all knew that Mitchell wanted (needed) the compo money from Burnley to keep the club afloat. I suspect that when Eddie stood there in front of the cameras and told us he was staying, he had just agreed a new deal with Mitchell on increased wages in order to bump-up any compansation deal, thus getting the best deal possible for the club. That my friend is the actions of a man who cares very much about this club and his loyalty is without question admirable, which is more than can be said for some on here. Hang your heads in shame.[/p][/quote]not short sited at all just fact, Burnley came in for him when he was talking to charlton and palace but their chairman was abroad and no deal could be done untill he came back[/p][/quote]Dont forget that at that time Eddie and Jason were reportedly only on 80k p.a and i believe only had 18 months left on their contracts??? I will let you do the maths but it aint anywhere near the 400k compo we got from Burnley. STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road

7:52pm Wed 4 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

coops1965 wrote:
Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided.

You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board.

I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more.

I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way.

Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through.

If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame.

U T C I A D.
Why do you idolise Howe, are you his car cleaner, or did he smile at you once.
We need a manager with balls. Not a mister nice guy.
WAKE UP
[quote][p][bold]coops1965[/bold] wrote: Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided. You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board. I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more. I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way. Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through. If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame. U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]Why do you idolise Howe, are you his car cleaner, or did he smile at you once. We need a manager with balls. Not a mister nice guy. WAKE UP holdinkæft

8:02pm Wed 4 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

Dukecherry wrote:
It has to be said that EH has his back to the wall now. The divided opinion of the supporters of the club of his stewardship so far, goes a long way to reflect the difficult position he finds himself in.
Regardless of whether EH stays or goes, the club and the fans will pay a heavy price. In the end it may come to a damage limitation exercise. Sacking him will involve compensation and, more importantly, disruption that we can do without. Keeping him, on the other hand, may leave that glimmer of hope that he can keep us in this division. But if that does not happen the burden will be too big to shoulder by the owners.
For the fans who want to bring in more players I must say that is digging ourselves into a bigger hole than the one we are in now. Several concerns had been expressed about EH's methods of signing players trying to fill positions where we had depth and leaving the lines, where we were thin, exposed. If we want to go out and buy or take a player on loan every time we have an injury, I do not know when will the team gel together and when will EH consolidate. Equally, the cost will be high for the return, as we have seen.
Judging by the posts, commentaries on different websites and reactions, one can easily assume that the team that matched Wigan step for step in the League Cup last season played better than that of last night and previous games-remember we were plying a PL side. Not allowing some of the players who featured in both games to show what they can do for the club may prove detrimental to EH's reputation, or what will be left of it by the time we drop into the relegation zone.
We played Wigan Reserves ln the cup, but a nice comment.
[quote][p][bold]Dukecherry[/bold] wrote: It has to be said that EH has his back to the wall now. The divided opinion of the supporters of the club of his stewardship so far, goes a long way to reflect the difficult position he finds himself in. Regardless of whether EH stays or goes, the club and the fans will pay a heavy price. In the end it may come to a damage limitation exercise. Sacking him will involve compensation and, more importantly, disruption that we can do without. Keeping him, on the other hand, may leave that glimmer of hope that he can keep us in this division. But if that does not happen the burden will be too big to shoulder by the owners. For the fans who want to bring in more players I must say that is digging ourselves into a bigger hole than the one we are in now. Several concerns had been expressed about EH's methods of signing players trying to fill positions where we had depth and leaving the lines, where we were thin, exposed. If we want to go out and buy or take a player on loan every time we have an injury, I do not know when will the team gel together and when will EH consolidate. Equally, the cost will be high for the return, as we have seen. Judging by the posts, commentaries on different websites and reactions, one can easily assume that the team that matched Wigan step for step in the League Cup last season played better than that of last night and previous games-remember we were plying a PL side. Not allowing some of the players who featured in both games to show what they can do for the club may prove detrimental to EH's reputation, or what will be left of it by the time we drop into the relegation zone.[/p][/quote]We played Wigan Reserves ln the cup, but a nice comment. holdinkæft

8:10pm Wed 4 Dec 13

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road says...

holdinkæft wrote:
coops1965 wrote:
Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided.

You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board.

I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more.

I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way.

Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through.

If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame.

U T C I A D.
Why do you idolise Howe, are you his car cleaner, or did he smile at you once.
We need a manager with balls. Not a mister nice guy.
WAKE UP
Eddie Howe has dug this club out of a massive hole twice before, so see no reason why he can't get us out of this blip.
If it were not for him, far from watching championship football (assuming you do) we would have been in the conference. Think before you post.!!!
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]coops1965[/bold] wrote: Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided. You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board. I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more. I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way. Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through. If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame. U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]Why do you idolise Howe, are you his car cleaner, or did he smile at you once. We need a manager with balls. Not a mister nice guy. WAKE UP[/p][/quote]Eddie Howe has dug this club out of a massive hole twice before, so see no reason why he can't get us out of this blip. If it were not for him, far from watching championship football (assuming you do) we would have been in the conference. Think before you post.!!! STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road

8:11pm Wed 4 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:
WHYNOT wrote:
ifordcherry wrote:
coops1965 wrote:
Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided.

You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board.

I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more.

I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way.

Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through.

If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame.

U T C I A D.
What a load of drivel you are spouting young coops....Football is a business and is results driven and Eddie Howe has not produced...Do you honestly think that Demin will be hanging around if we get relegated ??....If you had someone working for you and he gave you a 5% return when your staff target might be 60%+,Would you keep him on and pay him the same as the success boys...DON`T THINK SO COOPS !...Did Arsenal or Man U get relegated under the 2 managers you mention and would they have kept their jobs if they had ??...Also he is so Bournemouth through and through that the sunny climates of Burnley were just too much of a pull for him were they ??....People other than you are allowed their opinions me old fruit and yes U T C I A D.
yep he is so Bournemouth through and through he had agreed to go to Burnley before he came on tv and said he was staying here.
What a short sited view you have.
It was well documented at the time that Mitchell's medalling in team affairs was the main reason Eddie wanted out. Any manager with ambition wants to ply their trade at the highest possible level, and at that time Eddies stock was at it's highest. The man shed tears after his last game at Colchester.
We all knew that Mitchell wanted (needed) the compo money from Burnley to keep the club afloat. I suspect that when Eddie stood there in front of the cameras and told us he was staying, he had just agreed a new deal with Mitchell on increased wages in order to bump-up any compansation deal, thus getting the best deal possible for the club.
That my friend is the actions of a man who cares very much about this club and his loyalty is without question admirable, which is more than can be said for some on here. Hang your heads in shame.
WHAT A TROLL,
Read the facts, he wanted to better himself but wasnt good enough. FACT
[quote][p][bold]STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WHYNOT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ifordcherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]coops1965[/bold] wrote: Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided. You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board. I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more. I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way. Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through. If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame. U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]What a load of drivel you are spouting young coops....Football is a business and is results driven and Eddie Howe has not produced...Do you honestly think that Demin will be hanging around if we get relegated ??....If you had someone working for you and he gave you a 5% return when your staff target might be 60%+,Would you keep him on and pay him the same as the success boys...DON`T THINK SO COOPS !...Did Arsenal or Man U get relegated under the 2 managers you mention and would they have kept their jobs if they had ??...Also he is so Bournemouth through and through that the sunny climates of Burnley were just too much of a pull for him were they ??....People other than you are allowed their opinions me old fruit and yes U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]yep he is so Bournemouth through and through he had agreed to go to Burnley before he came on tv and said he was staying here.[/p][/quote]What a short sited view you have. It was well documented at the time that Mitchell's medalling in team affairs was the main reason Eddie wanted out. Any manager with ambition wants to ply their trade at the highest possible level, and at that time Eddies stock was at it's highest. The man shed tears after his last game at Colchester. We all knew that Mitchell wanted (needed) the compo money from Burnley to keep the club afloat. I suspect that when Eddie stood there in front of the cameras and told us he was staying, he had just agreed a new deal with Mitchell on increased wages in order to bump-up any compansation deal, thus getting the best deal possible for the club. That my friend is the actions of a man who cares very much about this club and his loyalty is without question admirable, which is more than can be said for some on here. Hang your heads in shame.[/p][/quote]WHAT A TROLL, Read the facts, he wanted to better himself but wasnt good enough. FACT holdinkæft

8:18pm Wed 4 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
coops1965 wrote:
Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided.

You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board.

I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more.

I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way.

Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through.

If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame.

U T C I A D.
Why do you idolise Howe, are you his car cleaner, or did he smile at you once.
We need a manager with balls. Not a mister nice guy.
WAKE UP
Eddie Howe has dug this club out of a massive hole twice before, so see no reason why he can't get us out of this blip.
If it were not for him, far from watching championship football (assuming you do) we would have been in the conference. Think before you post.!!!
Last season anyone could of won with the team we had, in fact they didnt need one. this year OH DEAR.....
[quote][p][bold]STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]coops1965[/bold] wrote: Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided. You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board. I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more. I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way. Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through. If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame. U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]Why do you idolise Howe, are you his car cleaner, or did he smile at you once. We need a manager with balls. Not a mister nice guy. WAKE UP[/p][/quote]Eddie Howe has dug this club out of a massive hole twice before, so see no reason why he can't get us out of this blip. If it were not for him, far from watching championship football (assuming you do) we would have been in the conference. Think before you post.!!![/p][/quote]Last season anyone could of won with the team we had, in fact they didnt need one. this year OH DEAR..... holdinkæft

8:22pm Wed 4 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

holdinkæft wrote:
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
coops1965 wrote:
Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided.

You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board.

I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more.

I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way.

Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through.

If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame.

U T C I A D.
Why do you idolise Howe, are you his car cleaner, or did he smile at you once.
We need a manager with balls. Not a mister nice guy.
WAKE UP
Eddie Howe has dug this club out of a massive hole twice before, so see no reason why he can't get us out of this blip.
If it were not for him, far from watching championship football (assuming you do) we would have been in the conference. Think before you post.!!!
Last season anyone could of won with the team we had, in fact they didnt need one. this year OH DEAR.....
Your like TedMac, stop living in the past.
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]coops1965[/bold] wrote: Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided. You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board. I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more. I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way. Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through. If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame. U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]Why do you idolise Howe, are you his car cleaner, or did he smile at you once. We need a manager with balls. Not a mister nice guy. WAKE UP[/p][/quote]Eddie Howe has dug this club out of a massive hole twice before, so see no reason why he can't get us out of this blip. If it were not for him, far from watching championship football (assuming you do) we would have been in the conference. Think before you post.!!![/p][/quote]Last season anyone could of won with the team we had, in fact they didnt need one. this year OH DEAR.....[/p][/quote]Your like TedMac, stop living in the past. holdinkæft

8:28pm Wed 4 Dec 13

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road says...

holdinkæft wrote:
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:
WHYNOT wrote:
ifordcherry wrote:
coops1965 wrote:
Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided.

You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board.

I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more.

I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way.

Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through.

If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame.

U T C I A D.
What a load of drivel you are spouting young coops....Football is a business and is results driven and Eddie Howe has not produced...Do you honestly think that Demin will be hanging around if we get relegated ??....If you had someone working for you and he gave you a 5% return when your staff target might be 60%+,Would you keep him on and pay him the same as the success boys...DON`T THINK SO COOPS !...Did Arsenal or Man U get relegated under the 2 managers you mention and would they have kept their jobs if they had ??...Also he is so Bournemouth through and through that the sunny climates of Burnley were just too much of a pull for him were they ??....People other than you are allowed their opinions me old fruit and yes U T C I A D.
yep he is so Bournemouth through and through he had agreed to go to Burnley before he came on tv and said he was staying here.
What a short sited view you have.
It was well documented at the time that Mitchell's medalling in team affairs was the main reason Eddie wanted out. Any manager with ambition wants to ply their trade at the highest possible level, and at that time Eddies stock was at it's highest. The man shed tears after his last game at Colchester.
We all knew that Mitchell wanted (needed) the compo money from Burnley to keep the club afloat. I suspect that when Eddie stood there in front of the cameras and told us he was staying, he had just agreed a new deal with Mitchell on increased wages in order to bump-up any compansation deal, thus getting the best deal possible for the club.
That my friend is the actions of a man who cares very much about this club and his loyalty is without question admirable, which is more than can be said for some on here. Hang your heads in shame.
WHAT A TROLL,
Read the facts, he wanted to better himself but wasnt good enough. FACT
I really can't be bothered with you, so i will leave you with your childsplay.
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WHYNOT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ifordcherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]coops1965[/bold] wrote: Anyone that seriously thinks that there is a better man for the job at this club out there then you are completely misguided. You really are a bunch of ignorant tw@ts who clearly know nothing about the club or the value in a long term manager who gets the backing of the supporters and the board. I will mention two names, Arsene Venger, and Taggart from Man UTD, need I say more. I cannot believe that there are fans out there wanting to jump ship and turf out possibly the best potential manager the country has seen for a long time. We should be looking forward with him and long term not jerking our knees at every result that does not go our way. Nobody likes an I told you so which is all that you lot are trying to be so you can be exonerated from any blame, like not backing the manager who is by the way Bournemouth through and through. If at the end of the season we are still in this division, which is all that we should expect by the way, nothing more, then you lot should hang your heads in bloody shame. U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]What a load of drivel you are spouting young coops....Football is a business and is results driven and Eddie Howe has not produced...Do you honestly think that Demin will be hanging around if we get relegated ??....If you had someone working for you and he gave you a 5% return when your staff target might be 60%+,Would you keep him on and pay him the same as the success boys...DON`T THINK SO COOPS !...Did Arsenal or Man U get relegated under the 2 managers you mention and would they have kept their jobs if they had ??...Also he is so Bournemouth through and through that the sunny climates of Burnley were just too much of a pull for him were they ??....People other than you are allowed their opinions me old fruit and yes U T C I A D.[/p][/quote]yep he is so Bournemouth through and through he had agreed to go to Burnley before he came on tv and said he was staying here.[/p][/quote]What a short sited view you have. It was well documented at the time that Mitchell's medalling in team affairs was the main reason Eddie wanted out. Any manager with ambition wants to ply their trade at the highest possible level, and at that time Eddies stock was at it's highest. The man shed tears after his last game at Colchester. We all knew that Mitchell wanted (needed) the compo money from Burnley to keep the club afloat. I suspect that when Eddie stood there in front of the cameras and told us he was staying, he had just agreed a new deal with Mitchell on increased wages in order to bump-up any compansation deal, thus getting the best deal possible for the club. That my friend is the actions of a man who cares very much about this club and his loyalty is without question admirable, which is more than can be said for some on here. Hang your heads in shame.[/p][/quote]WHAT A TROLL, Read the facts, he wanted to better himself but wasnt good enough. FACT[/p][/quote]I really can't be bothered with you, so i will leave you with your childsplay. STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road

8:39pm Wed 4 Dec 13

stjxf12 says...

My team AFC Bournemouth are playing football in the Championship , one league down from the mega bucks of the Premier League. Every week we are playing against teams/players who were playing in the PREMIER LEAGUE either least season or very recently. These players are household names. Queens Park Rangers are a fine example of that and if you go through their squad of players a high percentage have played a PREMIER LEAGUE status. They have the mega bucks money from the parachute payments of the PREMIER LEAGUE. Reading on Saturday were in the PREMIER LEAGUE and also received the mega bucks. This time last season Mr Howe recovered a horrendous start from Messers Groves and Brookes to gain the mighty Cherries to promotion of the promised land. Week in week out we are playing sides I could of only dreamt of playing for the last 45 years of following AFC Bournemouth .
Thank you Mr Howe and Mr Tindall .I will support you and my team through the high's and low's of this massive learning curve for us all. UTCIAD
My team AFC Bournemouth are playing football in the Championship , one league down from the mega bucks of the Premier League. Every week we are playing against teams/players who were playing in the PREMIER LEAGUE either least season or very recently. These players are household names. Queens Park Rangers are a fine example of that and if you go through their squad of players a high percentage have played a PREMIER LEAGUE status. They have the mega bucks money from the parachute payments of the PREMIER LEAGUE. Reading on Saturday were in the PREMIER LEAGUE and also received the mega bucks. This time last season Mr Howe recovered a horrendous start from Messers Groves and Brookes to gain the mighty Cherries to promotion of the promised land. Week in week out we are playing sides I could of only dreamt of playing for the last 45 years of following AFC Bournemouth . Thank you Mr Howe and Mr Tindall .I will support you and my team through the high's and low's of this massive learning curve for us all. UTCIAD stjxf12

8:44pm Wed 4 Dec 13

stjxf12 says...

holdinkæft wrote:
Dukecherry wrote:
It has to be said that EH has his back to the wall now. The divided opinion of the supporters of the club of his stewardship so far, goes a long way to reflect the difficult position he finds himself in.
Regardless of whether EH stays or goes, the club and the fans will pay a heavy price. In the end it may come to a damage limitation exercise. Sacking him will involve compensation and, more importantly, disruption that we can do without. Keeping him, on the other hand, may leave that glimmer of hope that he can keep us in this division. But if that does not happen the burden will be too big to shoulder by the owners.
For the fans who want to bring in more players I must say that is digging ourselves into a bigger hole than the one we are in now. Several concerns had been expressed about EH's methods of signing players trying to fill positions where we had depth and leaving the lines, where we were thin, exposed. If we want to go out and buy or take a player on loan every time we have an injury, I do not know when will the team gel together and when will EH consolidate. Equally, the cost will be high for the return, as we have seen.
Judging by the posts, commentaries on different websites and reactions, one can easily assume that the team that matched Wigan step for step in the League Cup last season played better than that of last night and previous games-remember we were plying a PL side. Not allowing some of the players who featured in both games to show what they can do for the club may prove detrimental to EH's reputation, or what will be left of it by the time we drop into the relegation zone.
We played Wigan Reserves ln the cup, but a nice comment.
and we beat their first team in the league !!!!! Nice comment DOH
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dukecherry[/bold] wrote: It has to be said that EH has his back to the wall now. The divided opinion of the supporters of the club of his stewardship so far, goes a long way to reflect the difficult position he finds himself in. Regardless of whether EH stays or goes, the club and the fans will pay a heavy price. In the end it may come to a damage limitation exercise. Sacking him will involve compensation and, more importantly, disruption that we can do without. Keeping him, on the other hand, may leave that glimmer of hope that he can keep us in this division. But if that does not happen the burden will be too big to shoulder by the owners. For the fans who want to bring in more players I must say that is digging ourselves into a bigger hole than the one we are in now. Several concerns had been expressed about EH's methods of signing players trying to fill positions where we had depth and leaving the lines, where we were thin, exposed. If we want to go out and buy or take a player on loan every time we have an injury, I do not know when will the team gel together and when will EH consolidate. Equally, the cost will be high for the return, as we have seen. Judging by the posts, commentaries on different websites and reactions, one can easily assume that the team that matched Wigan step for step in the League Cup last season played better than that of last night and previous games-remember we were plying a PL side. Not allowing some of the players who featured in both games to show what they can do for the club may prove detrimental to EH's reputation, or what will be left of it by the time we drop into the relegation zone.[/p][/quote]We played Wigan Reserves ln the cup, but a nice comment.[/p][/quote]and we beat their first team in the league !!!!! Nice comment DOH stjxf12

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