Saddled with dress code rules? (From Bournemouth Echo)

There are certain nudist activists who are on a mission, namely to make sure that everyone gets a really good look at their genitalia. They say it's necessary to "educate" an "desensitize" the public, but who have them the right to do that? They say that all children should be exposed to adult nudity, so they are going to make sure your kids see their private parts.
As we saw in the case of the Naked Rambler, Scotland decided it won't tolerate this kind of behaviour, and it's right not to do so. I hope the English courts will follow their lead and declare that the place for public nudity is on nudist beaches only, and that exhibitionism which hides behind the pretext of naturism is unacceptable.

bisonstrangler wrote:
There are certain nudist activists who are on a mission, namely to make sure that everyone gets a really good look at their genitalia. They say it's necessary to "educate" an "desensitize" the public, but who have them the right to do that? They say that all children should be exposed to adult nudity, so they are going to make sure your kids see their private parts. As we saw in the case of the Naked Rambler, Scotland decided it won't tolerate this kind of behaviour, and it's right not to do so. I hope the English courts will follow their lead and declare that the place for public nudity is on nudist beaches only, and that exhibitionism which hides behind the pretext of naturism is unacceptable.

I think we`ve had a bison-full enough of all this legalised bluff-oonery without you chipping in with the bigotted brainwash that keeps the various minions of our ever-thriving Sex Trade in clover and nudist beaches full of everybody who isn`t, (as well as is of course-weather permitting)....

No "bigoted brainwash" - just a sense of decency and a strong belief that such "activists" (almost always middle-aged men) who have a compulsion to expose themselves to strangers should face prosecution.

I want to be able to use public places without having to share them with exhibitionists.

Strange how all these "naturists" manage to wear hats, shoes and even socks, but somehow they always insist on having their genitals on show. Of course, it's not sexual, is it? Yeah! Right!

I'd make him cycle down a long potholed road without a saddle....

Joking aside, neither him or Gough (Naked Rambler) are any better than flashers. While the majority of naturists are content to use their own homes and dedicated beaches, this isn't enough for these two - I would describe their behaviour as antisocial naturism, as they use they use their naturism to be antisocial, both seem to have a couldn't care less what people think - they don't do naturists any favours, they are probably a thorn in the side of 'proper' naturists!! Or a thorn in somewhere!!1

I'd make him cycle down a long potholed road without a saddle....

Joking aside, neither him or Gough (Naked Rambler) are any better than flashers. While the majority of naturists are content to use their own homes and dedicated beaches, this isn't enough for these two - I would describe their behaviour as antisocial naturism, as they use they use their naturism to be antisocial, both seem to have a couldn't care less what people think - they don't do naturists any favours, they are probably a thorn in the side of 'proper' naturists!! Or a thorn in somewhere!

I'd make him cycle down a long potholed road without a saddle....

Joking aside, neither him or Gough (Naked Rambler) are any better than flashers. While the majority of naturists are content to use their own homes and dedicated beaches, this isn't enough for these two - I would describe their behaviour as antisocial naturism, as they use they use their naturism to be antisocial, both seem to have a couldn't care less what people think - they don't do naturists any favours, they are probably a thorn in the side of 'proper' naturists!! Or a thorn in somewhere!

bisonstrangler wrote:
No "bigoted brainwash" - just a sense of decency and a strong belief that such "activists" (almost always middle-aged men) who have a compulsion to expose themselves to strangers should face prosecution. I want to be able to use public places without having to share them with exhibitionists. Strange how all these "naturists" manage to wear hats, shoes and even socks, but somehow they always insist on having their genitals on show. Of course, it's not sexual, is it? Yeah! Right!

No recognition of the law as actually written=bb or worse.

I agree that the actions of Richard Collins do go beyond what most naturists would do, but you have to ask yourself; what harm has he actually done? How can the sight of a naked human being do any harm? We are all naked under our clothes, are we to assume that seeing ourselves naked will cause us some harm? Why then does it harm us to see someone else naked? Surely for a crime to have been committed there has to be a victim?

All that Richard Collins has done is the same as several thousands did on the weekend of 11/12/13 June this year in various towns and cities all over the UK and around the world when they took part in a protest known as the World Naked Bike Ride. Most of these had police escorts, except the one in London where the police decided that World Cup fans were more of a problem...

Once more we are urged to "think of the children". There is no evidence that children are harmed by seeing a naked person, but there is considerable evidence of harm due to prudery!

One of the most common reactions we get is "I don't mind it, but think of other people..." well if 88% of people consider it harmless and only 2% consider it criminal (2001 NOP survey), just who are these "other people". Are we to be ruled by a tiny minority who mostly only exist in people's imagination?

What harm has he actually done? He has upset people who were enjoying the use of a public place just as much as someone shouting obscene language or openly masturbating.
We are all naked under our clothes - which is precisely why we wear clothes!
The World Naked Bike Ride is a disgrace - the police should have intervened and stopped this from the start. It's an exhibitionists' free-for-all.
I don't want my kids seeing adult nudity and I reckon most other Brits feel the same way.
The NOP survey is intentionally misquoted here - it sets the scene of a nudist beach and then asks people whether they think the nudity is harmless - of course most are going to agree that it is - ON A NUDIST BEACH! That's where nudists belong - on a nudist beach - and well away from decent people. Nobody would have complained if Mr Collins had been on a nudist beach - but he wasn't - and people did complain.

bisonstrangler wrote:
What harm has he actually done? He has upset people who were enjoying the use of a public place just as much as someone shouting obscene language or openly masturbating. We are all naked under our clothes - which is precisely why we wear clothes! The World Naked Bike Ride is a disgrace - the police should have intervened and stopped this from the start. It's an exhibitionists' free-for-all. I don't want my kids seeing adult nudity and I reckon most other Brits feel the same way. The NOP survey is intentionally misquoted here - it sets the scene of a nudist beach and then asks people whether they think the nudity is harmless - of course most are going to agree that it is - ON A NUDIST BEACH! That's where nudists belong - on a nudist beach - and well away from decent people. Nobody would have complained if Mr Collins had been on a nudist beach - but he wasn't - and people did complain.

Out of the several hundred and likely thousand/s who must have seen him during his near 10m bike-ride it would appear that that 2% gymnophobe statistic, which as you surely know relates to Public Areas generally and not designated beaches, is well o.t.t. when it comes down to actually making a noise about personal dislikes as they can say rather more about self than ones target.
Pity was that the 2001 Pollsters didn`t quote the far higher giggle factor which comes out of somebody breaking stupidly harmful taboos.
By the way, what ever you may not choose to wear in Public Place, and even your own perhaps, remember Doctors general advice and ALWAYS wear shoes at the very least.
And not just to hide your bunnions either!