The tainting of democracy

The tainting of democracy

The tainting of democracy

First published in Opinion

THERE are no local elections here this May. Electors with a point to make will have to wait until 2015 or make do with June’s European elections.

This will be a relief to some political leaders who are justifiably feeling the heat at the moment. Sandbags and trees are just two of the issues in Christchurch.

In Poole, it’s the sacking of Judy Butt for representing those who elected her over the issue of travellers.

There are some who believe the democratic process has been seriously tainted in recent days. Council leaders Cllr Ray Nottage and Cllr Elaine Atkinson should be reflecting on this too.

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12:21pm Fri 14 Feb 14

60plus says...

I bet poole council leader is breathing a sigh of relief she sticks around a bit longer.
I bet poole council leader is breathing a sigh of relief she sticks around a bit longer. 60plus
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1:51pm Fri 14 Feb 14

coster says...

You can't honestly believe that we live in a Democracy?. The political charade that we allow to play around with us is well past its use. Communication advances now mean that remote representation through uncontrolled MPs is well out of date, should we not be investigating a more direct method of obtaining true Democracy.
You can't honestly believe that we live in a Democracy?. The political charade that we allow to play around with us is well past its use. Communication advances now mean that remote representation through uncontrolled MPs is well out of date, should we not be investigating a more direct method of obtaining true Democracy. coster
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2:34pm Fri 14 Feb 14

In Absentia says...

Perhaps the Editor should get a greater grasp of cabinet governance. The Tory group in Poole elect a leader, she chooses the Cabinet, one has a conflict of conscience with regard to a cabinet policy and has to go. What's the issue? If the Tory group disagree then they can pass a motion of no confidence in their leader and elect a new one.

Electors vote for councillors not who sits in the cabinet.
Perhaps the Editor should get a greater grasp of cabinet governance. The Tory group in Poole elect a leader, she chooses the Cabinet, one has a conflict of conscience with regard to a cabinet policy and has to go. What's the issue? If the Tory group disagree then they can pass a motion of no confidence in their leader and elect a new one. Electors vote for councillors not who sits in the cabinet. In Absentia
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8:50am Sat 15 Feb 14

Carolyn43 says...

In Absentia wrote:
Perhaps the Editor should get a greater grasp of cabinet governance. The Tory group in Poole elect a leader, she chooses the Cabinet, one has a conflict of conscience with regard to a cabinet policy and has to go. What's the issue? If the Tory group disagree then they can pass a motion of no confidence in their leader and elect a new one.

Electors vote for councillors not who sits in the cabinet.
The issue is that Atkinson obviously has no concern for residents; just for the cabinet. The cabinet should be acting in the interests of residents, just as Judy Butt did. I hear she's taken over Judy Butt's Community Engagement mantle. When did that woman last engage with the community?
.......
It's obvious that the cabinet is at odds with a large group of residents, but what the cabinet wants takes precedent over what the electorate want. That is not democracy. It's dictatorship. "We know what WE want and that's what you're going to get!"
[quote][p][bold]In Absentia[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the Editor should get a greater grasp of cabinet governance. The Tory group in Poole elect a leader, she chooses the Cabinet, one has a conflict of conscience with regard to a cabinet policy and has to go. What's the issue? If the Tory group disagree then they can pass a motion of no confidence in their leader and elect a new one. Electors vote for councillors not who sits in the cabinet.[/p][/quote]The issue is that Atkinson obviously has no concern for residents; just for the cabinet. The cabinet should be acting in the interests of residents, just as Judy Butt did. I hear she's taken over Judy Butt's Community Engagement mantle. When did that woman last engage with the community? ....... It's obvious that the cabinet is at odds with a large group of residents, but what the cabinet wants takes precedent over what the electorate want. That is not democracy. It's dictatorship. "We know what WE want and that's what you're going to get!" Carolyn43
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8:17am Sun 23 Feb 14

xchresident says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
In Absentia wrote:
Perhaps the Editor should get a greater grasp of cabinet governance. The Tory group in Poole elect a leader, she chooses the Cabinet, one has a conflict of conscience with regard to a cabinet policy and has to go. What's the issue? If the Tory group disagree then they can pass a motion of no confidence in their leader and elect a new one.

Electors vote for councillors not who sits in the cabinet.
The issue is that Atkinson obviously has no concern for residents; just for the cabinet. The cabinet should be acting in the interests of residents, just as Judy Butt did. I hear she's taken over Judy Butt's Community Engagement mantle. When did that woman last engage with the community?
.......
It's obvious that the cabinet is at odds with a large group of residents, but what the cabinet wants takes precedent over what the electorate want. That is not democracy. It's dictatorship. "We know what WE want and that's what you're going to get!"
Quote Carolyn 43 :It's obvious that the cabinet is at odds with a large group of residents, but what the cabinet wants takes precedent over what the electorate want. That is not democracy. It's dictatorship. "We know what WE want and that's what you're going to get!"

Much the same in Christchurch. Conservative group meetings make a wish list, the minutes of these are not available to the public and the exercise of a whip ensures that decisions are enforced during the following committee votes.

The wooden quality of ‘questions’ and ‘debate’ tells all. Even the 2 Independents in Christchurch appear loathe to go against the wishes of the Leader and his selected Portfolio holders..
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In Absentia[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the Editor should get a greater grasp of cabinet governance. The Tory group in Poole elect a leader, she chooses the Cabinet, one has a conflict of conscience with regard to a cabinet policy and has to go. What's the issue? If the Tory group disagree then they can pass a motion of no confidence in their leader and elect a new one. Electors vote for councillors not who sits in the cabinet.[/p][/quote]The issue is that Atkinson obviously has no concern for residents; just for the cabinet. The cabinet should be acting in the interests of residents, just as Judy Butt did. I hear she's taken over Judy Butt's Community Engagement mantle. When did that woman last engage with the community? ....... It's obvious that the cabinet is at odds with a large group of residents, but what the cabinet wants takes precedent over what the electorate want. That is not democracy. It's dictatorship. "We know what WE want and that's what you're going to get!"[/p][/quote]Quote Carolyn 43 :It's obvious that the cabinet is at odds with a large group of residents, but what the cabinet wants takes precedent over what the electorate want. That is not democracy. It's dictatorship. "We know what WE want and that's what you're going to get!" Much the same in Christchurch. Conservative group meetings make a wish list, the minutes of these are not available to the public and the exercise of a whip ensures that decisions are enforced during the following committee votes. The wooden quality of ‘questions’ and ‘debate’ tells all. Even the 2 Independents in Christchurch appear loathe to go against the wishes of the Leader and his selected Portfolio holders.. xchresident
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