£12m might not make life easier

Bournemouth Echo: £12m might not make life easier £12m might not make life easier

IT’S not often that local authorities find themselves within an extra £12million to spend.

Yet that’s the amount of grant that councils have to ease congestion in Bournemouth, Poole and Christchurch.

But there is a risk here of raising public expectations too high.

The government expects the grant to be spent on promoting alternatives to the car, so anyone who wants new roads will be disappointed.

And on the conurbation’s clogged major routes, any measure to improve life for one group of users is likely to make it harder for another group.

What’s more, bus companies now tend to concentrate heavily on their most lucrative routes, leaving some areas with little or no service.

But perhaps the biggest challenge is this. Most people agree there should be fewer cars on the road.

The trouble is that most of us think other people’s cars are the ones causing the problem.

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12:30pm Tue 12 Feb 13

s-pb2 says...

I would promote balloons. As £12m to talk about hot air seems the going rate
I would promote balloons. As £12m to talk about hot air seems the going rate s-pb2

1:26pm Tue 12 Feb 13

rayc says...

Who will shop in Ashley Road when those passengers in the priority buses whiz by? Those motorists who currently use the 30 minute free parking bays will avoid the road once they are replaced by heavily enforced bus lanes.
Who will shop in Ashley Road when those passengers in the priority buses whiz by? Those motorists who currently use the 30 minute free parking bays will avoid the road once they are replaced by heavily enforced bus lanes. rayc

2:02pm Tue 12 Feb 13

rayc says...

It is ironic that at the same time this was announced that Welsh councils are being asked to look again at pedestrian zones amid concern they are deterring shoppers.
The Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) says towns need to find new ways to attract people.
They should make them easier to get to and easier for car drivers to navigate around, it says.
It is ironic that at the same time this was announced that Welsh councils are being asked to look again at pedestrian zones amid concern they are deterring shoppers. The Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) says towns need to find new ways to attract people. They should make them easier to get to and easier for car drivers to navigate around, it says. rayc

3:20pm Tue 12 Feb 13

FNS-man says...

rayc wrote:
Who will shop in Ashley Road when those passengers in the priority buses whiz by? Those motorists who currently use the 30 minute free parking bays will avoid the road once they are replaced by heavily enforced bus lanes.
Errr, the people on the buses? You can get far more shoppers on a bus than you can into a car.
[quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: Who will shop in Ashley Road when those passengers in the priority buses whiz by? Those motorists who currently use the 30 minute free parking bays will avoid the road once they are replaced by heavily enforced bus lanes.[/p][/quote]Errr, the people on the buses? You can get far more shoppers on a bus than you can into a car. FNS-man

4:22pm Tue 12 Feb 13

rayc says...

FNS-man wrote:
rayc wrote:
Who will shop in Ashley Road when those passengers in the priority buses whiz by? Those motorists who currently use the 30 minute free parking bays will avoid the road once they are replaced by heavily enforced bus lanes.
Errr, the people on the buses? You can get far more shoppers on a bus than you can into a car.
This scheme is all about getting from Poole to Bournemouth to Christchurch and reverse. Do you really think people will get a bus to Poole and then another to Ashley Road to shop?
If I was a shop owner on Ashley Road I would be hoping your prediction is right compared to mine.
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: Who will shop in Ashley Road when those passengers in the priority buses whiz by? Those motorists who currently use the 30 minute free parking bays will avoid the road once they are replaced by heavily enforced bus lanes.[/p][/quote]Errr, the people on the buses? You can get far more shoppers on a bus than you can into a car.[/p][/quote]This scheme is all about getting from Poole to Bournemouth to Christchurch and reverse. Do you really think people will get a bus to Poole and then another to Ashley Road to shop? If I was a shop owner on Ashley Road I would be hoping your prediction is right compared to mine. rayc

7:16pm Tue 12 Feb 13

FNS-man says...

rayc wrote:
It is ironic that at the same time this was announced that Welsh councils are being asked to look again at pedestrian zones amid concern they are deterring shoppers. The Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) says towns need to find new ways to attract people. They should make them easier to get to and easier for car drivers to navigate around, it says.
This story is completely bogus. The shopkeeper in the story says that pedestrianisation is ruining his business. If you have a look on Google maps at where his shop is:

https://maps.google.
co.uk/maps?q=bus+sta
tion+road+in+colwyn+
bay&hl=en&ll=53.2957
86,-3.72657&spn=0.00
2411,0.004587&sll=53
.290155,-3.728786&ss
pn=0.009646,0.018346
&hnear=Colwyn+Bay,+S
eafield+Road+(W-boun
d)&t=h&z=18

then you see the big highlighted road, which is within about 50 yards of four car parks. So I'm not really sure what pedestrianisation has to do with it.

The other problem is, apparently, out-of-town shopping centres. Which are... pedestrianised. You're not going to get your car any closer to the shops in an out-of-town centre than you will to this guy's shop.
[quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: It is ironic that at the same time this was announced that Welsh councils are being asked to look again at pedestrian zones amid concern they are deterring shoppers. The Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) says towns need to find new ways to attract people. They should make them easier to get to and easier for car drivers to navigate around, it says.[/p][/quote]This story is completely bogus. The shopkeeper in the story says that pedestrianisation is ruining his business. If you have a look on Google maps at where his shop is: https://maps.google. co.uk/maps?q=bus+sta tion+road+in+colwyn+ bay&hl=en&ll=53.2957 86,-3.72657&spn=0.00 2411,0.004587&sll=53 .290155,-3.728786&ss pn=0.009646,0.018346 &hnear=Colwyn+Bay,+S eafield+Road+(W-boun d)&t=h&z=18 then you see the big highlighted road, which is within about 50 yards of four car parks. So I'm not really sure what pedestrianisation has to do with it. The other problem is, apparently, out-of-town shopping centres. Which are... pedestrianised. You're not going to get your car any closer to the shops in an out-of-town centre than you will to this guy's shop. FNS-man

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