Commissioner’s welcome pledge

Bournemouth Echo: Police commissioner Martyn Underhill Police commissioner Martyn Underhill

DORSET’S council taxpayers will be heartened by the pledge from the county’s police and crime commissioner that he will only spend public money where it is justified.

This is a message they want to hear. Martyn Underhill’s announcement that he does not need and will not appoint a deputy is also music to the ears.

PCCs in other parts of the country have already stoked up controversy in the staffing of their office. Several have been accused of cronyism after appointing deputies on salaries of up to £65,000, without having to go through an appointments process.

It appears to be a shocking loophole when such a situation would not be tolerated or allowed in most other parts of the public sector. So far it seems that only three out of the 41 commissioners are formally adopting the ‘no deputy’ position.

On this key issue of public confidence, Commissioner Underhill has got off to a sure-footed start..

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3:42pm Mon 10 Dec 12

pete woodley says...

He is full of bull,a PA for£38.000.what a waste of money.
He is full of bull,a PA for£38.000.what a waste of money. pete woodley
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4:04pm Mon 10 Dec 12

ajj-dorset says...

As predicted, another none story featuring the newly elected PCC, we had better get used to seeing this, cheap copy for the increasingly desperate echo and job justifying publicity for Mr Underhill.

Every politician pledges that they will only spend public money where it is justified, it is a shallow and pointless claim based on their own judgement of what is justified spending.

No doubt some would argue that the Millions spent on electing PCCs was justified, even though the vast majority of people didnt agree enough to vote.
As predicted, another none story featuring the newly elected PCC, we had better get used to seeing this, cheap copy for the increasingly desperate echo and job justifying publicity for Mr Underhill. Every politician pledges that they will only spend public money where it is justified, it is a shallow and pointless claim based on their own judgement of what is justified spending. No doubt some would argue that the Millions spent on electing PCCs was justified, even though the vast majority of people didnt agree enough to vote. ajj-dorset
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5:46pm Mon 10 Dec 12

ashleycross says...

As I understand it this post is to make sure we get policed in a way that suits Dorset rather than a kind of one size fits all approach from London or letting the police themselves choose what to do with their resources for us the voting public.I didn't vote but I would have done if I'd known how many other people would, and I will in future.
As such, it is probably not a one man and his dog type role if it is actually going to be any use to us. And one man and his dolly day dream won't be much use either, Whereas one man and a decent assistant has the makings of being able to have a good crack at the job, You get what you pay for after all.
As I understand it this post is to make sure we get policed in a way that suits Dorset rather than a kind of one size fits all approach from London or letting the police themselves choose what to do with their resources for us the voting public.I didn't vote but I would have done if I'd known how many other people would, and I will in future. As such, it is probably not a one man and his dog type role if it is actually going to be any use to us. And one man and his dolly day dream won't be much use either, Whereas one man and a decent assistant has the makings of being able to have a good crack at the job, You get what you pay for after all. ashleycross
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5:59pm Mon 10 Dec 12

ShuttleX says...

The proof of the pudding is in the eating Mr Underhill. I, and many others, will be watching to see just what difference you will make. My personal belief is you will make no difference what so ever. Like most people paid for by the public, you will do things that serve your chances of getting re-elected, rather than what is best for us, your paymasters. At least you are an Independent, which is a plus for you, but you will still have to prove yourself. Another plus is your decision not to appoint a deputy ( ie friend) as other PCC's have already done.Is there a website where we can see your progress? Or do we just wait till the Echo prints another story? I didn't vote because I think PCC's are not needed. I would have been much happier keeping the Police away from politics, as I haven't met a politician yet who is not as bent as a nine bob note. May'be you will be the first to prove me wrong.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating Mr Underhill. I, and many others, will be watching to see just what difference you will make. My personal belief is you will make no difference what so ever. Like most people paid for by the public, you will do things that serve your chances of getting re-elected, rather than what is best for us, your paymasters. At least you are an Independent, which is a plus for you, but you will still have to prove yourself. Another plus is your decision not to appoint a deputy ( ie friend) as other PCC's have already done.Is there a website where we can see your progress? Or do we just wait till the Echo prints another story? I didn't vote because I think PCC's are not needed. I would have been much happier keeping the Police away from politics, as I haven't met a politician yet who is not as bent as a nine bob note. May'be you will be the first to prove me wrong. ShuttleX
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7:43pm Mon 10 Dec 12

tbpoole says...

ShuttleX wrote:
The proof of the pudding is in the eating Mr Underhill. I, and many others, will be watching to see just what difference you will make. My personal belief is you will make no difference what so ever. Like most people paid for by the public, you will do things that serve your chances of getting re-elected, rather than what is best for us, your paymasters. At least you are an Independent, which is a plus for you, but you will still have to prove yourself. Another plus is your decision not to appoint a deputy ( ie friend) as other PCC's have already done.Is there a website where we can see your progress? Or do we just wait till the Echo prints another story? I didn't vote because I think PCC's are not needed. I would have been much happier keeping the Police away from politics, as I haven't met a politician yet who is not as bent as a nine bob note. May'be you will be the first to prove me wrong.
I'm glad that his only really important task over the next few years is just to prove you wrong....I thought he had a proper job to do as well!
[quote][p][bold]ShuttleX[/bold] wrote: The proof of the pudding is in the eating Mr Underhill. I, and many others, will be watching to see just what difference you will make. My personal belief is you will make no difference what so ever. Like most people paid for by the public, you will do things that serve your chances of getting re-elected, rather than what is best for us, your paymasters. At least you are an Independent, which is a plus for you, but you will still have to prove yourself. Another plus is your decision not to appoint a deputy ( ie friend) as other PCC's have already done.Is there a website where we can see your progress? Or do we just wait till the Echo prints another story? I didn't vote because I think PCC's are not needed. I would have been much happier keeping the Police away from politics, as I haven't met a politician yet who is not as bent as a nine bob note. May'be you will be the first to prove me wrong.[/p][/quote]I'm glad that his only really important task over the next few years is just to prove you wrong....I thought he had a proper job to do as well! tbpoole
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2:42am Tue 11 Dec 12

John T says...

tbpoole wrote:
ShuttleX wrote:
The proof of the pudding is in the eating Mr Underhill. I, and many others, will be watching to see just what difference you will make. My personal belief is you will make no difference what so ever. Like most people paid for by the public, you will do things that serve your chances of getting re-elected, rather than what is best for us, your paymasters. At least you are an Independent, which is a plus for you, but you will still have to prove yourself. Another plus is your decision not to appoint a deputy ( ie friend) as other PCC's have already done.Is there a website where we can see your progress? Or do we just wait till the Echo prints another story? I didn't vote because I think PCC's are not needed. I would have been much happier keeping the Police away from politics, as I haven't met a politician yet who is not as bent as a nine bob note. May'be you will be the first to prove me wrong.
I'm glad that his only really important task over the next few years is just to prove you wrong....I thought he had a proper job to do as well!
He does indeed have another proper job to do, which, if he is successful with, most of us on these forums will be truly grateful; that job is to try and shut up the antagonistic ramblings of old pete woodley, that gallant loser!
[quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ShuttleX[/bold] wrote: The proof of the pudding is in the eating Mr Underhill. I, and many others, will be watching to see just what difference you will make. My personal belief is you will make no difference what so ever. Like most people paid for by the public, you will do things that serve your chances of getting re-elected, rather than what is best for us, your paymasters. At least you are an Independent, which is a plus for you, but you will still have to prove yourself. Another plus is your decision not to appoint a deputy ( ie friend) as other PCC's have already done.Is there a website where we can see your progress? Or do we just wait till the Echo prints another story? I didn't vote because I think PCC's are not needed. I would have been much happier keeping the Police away from politics, as I haven't met a politician yet who is not as bent as a nine bob note. May'be you will be the first to prove me wrong.[/p][/quote]I'm glad that his only really important task over the next few years is just to prove you wrong....I thought he had a proper job to do as well![/p][/quote]He does indeed have another proper job to do, which, if he is successful with, most of us on these forums will be truly grateful; that job is to try and shut up the antagonistic ramblings of old pete woodley, that gallant loser! John T
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8:56am Tue 11 Dec 12

Glashen says...

ShuttleX wrote:
The proof of the pudding is in the eating Mr Underhill. I, and many others, will be watching to see just what difference you will make. My personal belief is you will make no difference what so ever. Like most people paid for by the public, you will do things that serve your chances of getting re-elected, rather than what is best for us, your paymasters. At least you are an Independent, which is a plus for you, but you will still have to prove yourself. Another plus is your decision not to appoint a deputy ( ie friend) as other PCC's have already done.Is there a website where we can see your progress? Or do we just wait till the Echo prints another story? I didn't vote because I think PCC's are not needed. I would have been much happier keeping the Police away from politics, as I haven't met a politician yet who is not as bent as a nine bob note. May'be you will be the first to prove me wrong.
I think it is a myth that you can keep "Politics out of Policing" even if that was Martyn's campaign line, you might just keep the worst of party politics out with an independent like Martyn.
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What he may actually do is listen to the public, because that is the only way he will be re-elected, so good luck to him, he will need it.
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I hope he will prove a success, this is one of those ideas that might just prove a lot better than the majority fear.
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By the way his new website is: http://www.dorset.pc
c.police.uk/Home.asp
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[quote][p][bold]ShuttleX[/bold] wrote: The proof of the pudding is in the eating Mr Underhill. I, and many others, will be watching to see just what difference you will make. My personal belief is you will make no difference what so ever. Like most people paid for by the public, you will do things that serve your chances of getting re-elected, rather than what is best for us, your paymasters. At least you are an Independent, which is a plus for you, but you will still have to prove yourself. Another plus is your decision not to appoint a deputy ( ie friend) as other PCC's have already done.Is there a website where we can see your progress? Or do we just wait till the Echo prints another story? I didn't vote because I think PCC's are not needed. I would have been much happier keeping the Police away from politics, as I haven't met a politician yet who is not as bent as a nine bob note. May'be you will be the first to prove me wrong.[/p][/quote]I think it is a myth that you can keep "Politics out of Policing" even if that was Martyn's campaign line, you might just keep the worst of party politics out with an independent like Martyn. - What he may actually do is listen to the public, because that is the only way he will be re-elected, so good luck to him, he will need it. - I hope he will prove a success, this is one of those ideas that might just prove a lot better than the majority fear. - By the way his new website is: http://www.dorset.pc c.police.uk/Home.asp x Glashen
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