Boscombe surf reef report due in February (From Bournemouth Echo)
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Boscombe surf reef report due in February
11:00am Friday 22nd January 2010 in
THE performance figures for how well the Boscombe Surf Reef has been performing so far are due at the end of February.
Plymouth University, the home of the UK’s first marine academy, is assessing the quality of the waves and the number of days suitable for surfing.
Cabinet member for tourism Cllr Anne Filer gave the date at Wednesday’s economy and tourism scrutiny panel.
* The council said after the meeting the findings will be delivered on 3 March
Comments(33)
enotsnihple
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11:30am Fri 22 Jan 10
Skono
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12:07pm Fri 22 Jan 10
On the day they release the figures, EVERYONE get down there with the TV crews and lets vote with our numbers.
People who live over looking the Reef can give their version of how many people have used it.
I expect the results will be from some spotty oik who will claim that it the wrong type of water in his bucket.
Here is a MASSIVE point, they only just moved the wave buoy to where it should have been to measure the waves correctly so how is their data going to show an average of the last few months?
More smoke and mirrors.
ski
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1:32pm Fri 22 Jan 10
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jboris
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1:42pm Fri 22 Jan 10
reefwatching
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2:27pm Fri 22 Jan 10
Bob49
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2:55pm Fri 22 Jan 10
The only success has been for the developers who have been allowed to built a 'gated community' that has no interest or interaction with it's environs. So please could we see where the real failure is and why it was always doomed to end this way.
SFRA
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4:33pm Fri 22 Jan 10
Fightingback
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5:15pm Fri 22 Jan 10
Name the councillors who supported it and lets get rid of them.
reechwa
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5:21pm Fri 22 Jan 10
wonderway
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6:11pm Fri 22 Jan 10
statement from council . was surf reef to be monitored for 12 months by plymouth uni before they could asertain if if functions correctly. As it took till Novemer before it was open we are still 9 months sort of councils full survey. so this report lacks substance
secondly Mr tweeks did not turn up a full council on tues night to give his "expert opinion" perhaps he is locked in Imax so this report that is to be presented is a toal waste of time or is it a way of the council to ensure more positive spin before they have their party for the reef in April.
Councillor and cabinet member for economy and leisure must be aware of this requirement. Also when the council was Audited there was some sort commings ie30,000 worth of desiel that was not monitored, plus 1/4 million pounds for sifting sand for ASR to be reclaimed back from ASR bill. is this being discused as well . Also as the flats that the council rented for ASR on sea front were unfurnished were are the chattles that were bought to furnish them now hope thatwill be addressed under the scrutiny pannels reviewi March. Perhaps councillors will clarify these points in the near future
pasword yeah-only?
tt52
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6:31pm Fri 22 Jan 10
upontown
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7:12pm Fri 22 Jan 10
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
ZZZZZZ
Bob49
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7:59pm Fri 22 Jan 10
Why did Mr Weight not turn up on Tuesday to present his report to the full council ?
Is there any missing £30k related to diesel ?
Likewise a suggested £150k for sand moving.
Were the flats provided by the council for ASR furnished by the council, if so what has happened to that furniture ?
As more and more of this fiasco unravels locals are still only being kept updated in a random fashion. It is time for the Echo to ask questions that it's readers want answered rather than simply printing sanitised press releases from the council.
woolamai
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11:16pm Fri 22 Jan 10
Wow - this ASR crowd must be really huge and sinister if they can have so much influence half way around the world.
It's built, it works, it's paid for, it ain't going away, and Boscombe is better for it. If you preferred the old clapped out run down dump that Boscombe was before I suggest you move to Morecombe - you'd absolutely love it.
Oh and stop complaining - talk about whingeing poms. You deserve Andy Murray.
grimreaper
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12:58am Sat 23 Jan 10
time nor Tide
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8:07am Sat 23 Jan 10
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=I32YYoH2I
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it is easy to assume defending whats there must be the work of the devil or those in cohoots with him. You will have to excuse those that have been "fleeced" for being a little skeptical. They all are just thinking after looking and they make conclusions from that. Your excuse is "they dont understand"
you want someone to believe you -fix your reef or give the money back.
everybody! - remember that 10 out of ten smoking doctors agreed that menthol cigarettes are good for your health. They were the best opinions money could buy and also got paid with shares in the company and a percentage of sales increases. Long live the scientists that dont get carried away with over the top claims - its probably our fault for depriving R&D of good money for too long and thus they started to invent their own schemes?
If you want to vomit just watch this piece of drivel.
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=Bm_Z03oC-
AQ
therein you find the person mentioned who said "if it doent work i dont get paid" he lied as it doesnt work and he got paid excessively.
then go to http://www.tourismco
ncern.org.uk/index.p
hp?page=diversion-of
-tsunami-funds
Here you can find the reason for taking tsunami funds has flip-flopped from surfing back to shoreline protection ( as the shoreline isnt in danger at this beach but who cares when you can double the cost of the reef)
help the poor folk in that area by writing the minister noted by the british group in the link. If you support the boscombe reef you can tell the Indian government all about its wonderfull sucess and plethura of benefits arising from the constructed cornacopia of goodness for peoples welfare. How the 5000 fishermen that got arrested protesting just didnt undertstand what a reef believer (investor) does. Help the government there decide to press on with the double the size -double the cost artificial surfing/erosion control (flipflops depending on the audience) reef using donated tsunami relief funding.
If plymouth University wants to align itself with these shenanigans then it had best be aware of what it is doing. Then of course someone has mentioned putting a flowrider in the imax - why bother ? BBC already has its own inhouse "surfgods"
http://www.stabmag.c
om/features/the-deat
h-of-a-surf-park.php
wollami and Dr davidson , are these cohorts of yours? do you defend the actions by this group in all the havoc they have apparently been doing from NZ to India and of course BBC?
but then all these global shenanagens are just mischief made up by satisfied customers? One does not have to be a Pom to know when he's been "ripped off". Take your reef, your surfgods dr's and your pathetic lame excuse of a post and put it where the sun dont shine. If you want to make me angy rip me off and call me a wingeing pom when I want the product I paid for! Its enough to spoil ones day! Woolami you dont know what you have started saying those things! Remeber surfgods believe they rule the world?
woolamai
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6:18pm Sat 23 Jan 10
Can't iamgine what a miserable job they must have having to listen to whineing and whingeing from you crybabys day after day. It must be worse then working in a creche.
You deserve Andy Murray and Nick Faldo.
Waves on the reef first light this morning - small but still the only place that had any this side of Kimmeridge. Chalk that one up Plymouth Uni.
time nor Tide
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8:05pm Sat 23 Jan 10
just amazing!
thank god for you they may be counting ripples - desperate times!
textbook example of grasping at straws.
"Making wild and often times unbelievable assumptions or using far fetched ideas and possibilities to reach the desired conclusion"
or
"a. Something of minimal value or importance.
b. Something with too little substance to provide support in a crisis: Near the end we were grasping at straws"
It will take a team of acedemics to work on every one of wool's assertions to come up with another magic elixer on that info?
Cant wait to see his name as a source of reliable observations and experience's.
serial reef surfer Woolovereyes says "its proven to be best value and insists another 3mill will make it even better"
for surf news of hawaii he goes on to say
"look at the pr value of the first reef , we are confident that the next will quadrupal that as council has great confidence in us"
Urging prompt payment for a better result woolovereyes supplied bank details for the money transfers yesterday.
Council is expected to oblige prompty to take advantage of the "free upgrade to preferred customer status" that has been offered for believing the drivel.
"customers such as BBC are not easy to come by " he quoted and then said " we have no hesitation in upgrading them to prefered customer status"
An official has stated that "all Bournemouth has an early christmas in being named as such a valuable customer."
"only good for woolovereyes will come of it and we are so priviliged to be the first in europe to benefit from this highly envyed position of status in the commercial surfing world"
In concluding to the whops and cheers of officials woolovereyes said " the Borough has finally made it"
Officials were too emotionaly overwhelmed to comment and "cheques" in the "email" was heard loudly resounding around the chamber as the backslapping and tears of joy flowed freely.
the coastal engineering fraternity were rushing to have its mode of business operations re-evaluated as one said " we have obviously been unsucessfull in praising our customers so" another said " wow - we have to do much more than that to procure additional contracts ".
A number of merchant bankers have taken keen interest in the way that woolovereyes has procured contacts and a new "derivatives " market in surfing waves on artificial reefs is now being offered in leui of the actual product.
officials at a number of other councils have all expressed interest in purchasing these derivatives instead actual reefs. "why gamble on a reef making waves when we can make more on betting when other councils finally wake up that ripples are not waves?"
meanwhile the average person remarked "I am a average ratepayer and what was that all about??"
woolamai
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10:01pm Sat 23 Jan 10
8:05pm Sat 23 Jan 10
"yes we all saw it it!
just amazing!"
Who are we - what you got - a little secret squirrel club checking out who's doing what on the beach? Pathetic. You need to get a life, start participating and stop frothing in your own bile at the thought of other people enjoying yourself - or your gonna have a jammy and end up in on a stretcher in a corridor waiting for more of your whining ilk to stop blocking beds.
In case you don't understand - the council aren't interested in your opinion, didn't ask for it, and won't be asking for it in future so you can keep up with the bilious windbagging on here but it's gonna achieve nothing and I'm going to keep riding waves you paid for. Ta.
time nor Tide
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1:00pm Sun 24 Jan 10
We took a vote and it was 100% -better off!
reefwatching
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10:05am Tue 26 Jan 10
time nor Tide
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6:14pm Tue 26 Jan 10
tata woolovereyes
everybody sees through you at last!
time nor Tide
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6:14pm Tue 26 Jan 10
tata woolovereyes
everybody sees through you at last!
woolamai
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9:24pm Thu 28 Jan 10
reefwatching wrote:If you really use the Boscombe seafront a lot then you don't have to be Einstein to work out who I am - do you?
I have my suspicions about who Woolamai is - perhaps he could (for what it's worth) confirm that he has no connection to ASR??
No waves forecast locally this weekend so I'm in the garage building a new board, but I might put an hour in at sunrise on Sunday.
Wave if your down there.
reefskeptic
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7:47am Fri 29 Jan 10
time nor Tide
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9:20pm Fri 29 Jan 10
Both the document quoted from below and wave tank is integral with the contract to provide waves breaking higher and longer than before. (also on double the occasions?) ... whoops if it sounds too good to be true?
"Reef 21 causes a height
reinforcement of 1.3-2.0
times (relative to the height
in front of the reef), which
is a significant height
improvement for the small
wave climate at Boscombe.
Importantly, the increased
height occurs down the full
length of the reef as there
are no significant wave
shadows."
1.So does the reef have 1.3 to 2.0 times the wave height of the waves at the piers?
2.Does this erected size wave occur down the full length of the reef as it does in the wave tank and promised by the five authors?
3.Does the reef provide useful surfing waves on twice as many occasions as happened before the reef was in place?
I could go into the erosion of sand leaving only pebbles on the beach as well but thats enough for now?
I dont think a acedemic institution is needed to answer these questions and who will peer review their findings - the IPCC?
The answers to these questions and more will be forthcomming in the next thrilling episode of the reefergate expose chronicles.
Personally I think its a outstanding sucess meeting all its promises .. in abundance. Yes all should attend the beach at right time and make that well known.
woolamai
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12:05pm Sat 30 Jan 10
Beach volleyball is a great idea. But still you complain, can't imagine why even you old bores wouldn't appreciate a few fit sheilas running around in tankinis.
What is it - is it just the fact that you don't like the idea of anyone enjoying themselves? What would make you happy - everyone under the age of 60 forced to stay indoors sucking lemons?
Why don't you suggest some sports you'd be good at - shopmobility scooter racing, who can go the longest without wetting themselves, whingeing without taking a breath, fastest to finish the Daily Mail, most pointless visit to the GP, slowest through the checkout......
You deserve Andy Murray, Nick Faldo and Geoff Boycott.
time nor Tide
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7:55pm Sat 30 Jan 10
tsk tsk you know it will send you blind! (let alone grow unwanted hair)
(hint ! you must take your medication every day for it to be effective!)
Now be a good little wmi and run off have a nice rest and tomorrow you can show us how you are such a good surfer that will revive the Borough?
you can have nice thoughts and dreams about the pier waves and how you would rather be surfing the reef.
You know, already - instead of banging on here with your nonsense you should put your energy to ensuring the reef is finished and performs as the 5 authors and the wave tank test said it would?
What is your problem with that?
time nor Tide
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11:04pm Thu 4 Feb 10
unty.us/environmenta
l_management/Artific
ialSurfingReef.cfm
this a a very detailed multidisciplinary study that is wise to read. It has implications for this reef and council. yes ASrr were part of the study team. It has a shock conclusion that is a real suprise.
reefwatching
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10:54am Mon 8 Feb 10
k/local/midwales/hi/
people_and_places/na
ture/newsid_8382000/
8382463.stm
They need to be warned!!
time nor Tide
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9:03pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Mick Newman "
Is it Mick that needs to be warned or the people who are funding Micks once respected firm for this high risk adventure that promises the engineers surfing time? Is there no end to people that get besotted by this type of hyperbole? All the coastal engineers I have spoken to see reefs as only one tool in a gammit of solutions -all of which can have surfing amenity attached to them in a more certain way for all of tide oppurtunity - but they are not patent-medicine solutions -eh?
reefskeptic
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7:33am Wed 17 Feb 10
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ws/news/3332394/Sea-
floor-shift-halts-re
ef-work
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It should be no surprise to the 'experts' at ASR that the sand shifts around in Opunake Bay. Shaw Mead and Kerry Black stood in front of the public meetings and said they were 'world experts' and knew all they needed to know about the beach in order to make world class waves for the town. And what the effects of the reef would be on the beach system and sand flow. The reality is these guys are full of their own spin and have zero credibility as scientists, engineers or project managers. I would not trust them and they should be held accountable for all the public money they have wasted. "
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honcho says...
11:13am Fri 22 Jan 10