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BRITAIN and America are two nations divided by a common language, said George Bernard Shaw... or was it Winston Churchill? Either way, it was a bloke.

Now had it been a woman speaking, there’s a pretty good chance she may not have been quite as succinct.

And that’s not me being sexist (why, perish the thought!) but the theory of Jean Hannah Edelstein, the 28-year-old American author of Himglish and Femalese.

She says men tend to communicate in a brief and straightforward manner, while women use more metaphorical language, and often communicate in a roundabout way.

Hey, lady, tell me something I didn’t already know – although, I suppose, if you did, I’d end up getting the wrong end of the stick.

That Venus and Mars analogy doesn’t even begin to describe the discrepancy, in my experience. After all, at least they’re in the same universe.

At this point I would like to say that any observations I may make are not based on a real person – this is because I value what remains of my ageing body.

But, just to be clear, there is a huge gender-based-lost-in-translation scenario going on here.

For example, why is it that women can spend an hour on the phone with someone they’ve arranged to meet up with later that day?

Do women seriously think men are happy to spend hours talking about wallpaper, curtains and carpets?

Well, we’re not. All we need to know is that whatever women choose (and they always choose) is cheap and easy to put up (or down, as the case may be).

Here’s another thing – shoes. We need a brown pair, a black pair, some trainers and possibly golf shoes. That’s it. End of discussion.

Other subjects we don’t want to talk about – feelings, medical stuff, TV soaps, what we’re having for dinner and where to go on holiday.

Men are not programmed to think further than half an hour into the future – unless it’s coming up with an excuse why we can’t visit Aunty Mabel a week on Saturday because it clashes with the big game.

And, on the day of the visit, when you say, “but we didn’t discuss it”, just remember, we did have a full and frank exchange of views – it’s just that you misinterpreted our grunts and harrumphs.

Ms Edelstein advises women, instead of saying: “You don’t listen to me”, to suggest instead, “We need to listen to each other more.”

She may be on to something there, but only if the bloke’s listening in the first place...


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Trifecta, Southbourne says...
9:24am Tue 26 Jan 10

"BRITAIN and America are two nations divided by a common language, said George Bernard Shaw... or was it Winston Churchill? Either way, it was a bloke."


It has also been attributed to Oscar Wilde who wrote in The Canterville Ghost that "We have really everything in common with America nowadays except, of course, language" and to Bertrand Russell in 1944 in a newspaper piece and to Dylan Thomas shortly afterwards. The GBS quote was never published although he is widely attributed with having coined the expression but I am fairly certain that WC can be discounted for this particular one. Perhaps ? :)

Mike Pickering, Bournemouth says...
3:04pm Tue 26 Jan 10

"...this is because I value what remains of my ageing body. "

Heh, yeh when my wife says something I don't agree with, I threaten her with physical violence too, heh..

Oh! Not so funny when it's the other way round is it ?
It IS a big joke to joke about women being domineering and violent towards their husbands, as if women like some grotesque characature of drunken abusive men from the last century and before.
It stems from the way that both boys and girls are raised with the idea that somehow it is worse for boys to hit girls than other boys, and so inter-boy violence is far more widely tolerated.
This tends to keep boys at a distance from each other and helps, to a degree, to maintain a certain level of respect between boys, as the fear of violent reprisal for an insult or angry word is real.
Girls on the other hand are taught that they can pretty much get away with behaving however they choose towards boys and men, and they will never get physical recriminations in the same way boys will. This has lead to the current situation in which many women are wantonly abusive, aggressive and rude to the men in their life, and everyone thinks its either normal, or just a big joke.
Noone is allowed to hit anyone else, so please don't subtly extend tolerance of violence with comments such as these.

GreenFire83, Boscombe says...
5:46pm Wed 27 Jan 10

Kevin Nash has obviously never listened to one of Neil Kinnock's speeches!

Honestly, can't you think of anything sensible to write about, instead of spreading this divisive propaganda?

Mike Pickering: Little girls will scrap with each other just the same as boys. The difference is in the reactions of the adults around them. With boys it's considered a normal part of growing up, but if it's girls then call the Daily Mail!! It's the end of civilisation as we know it!!

It'd do our society some good, methinks, to even out our reactions somewhere in the middle...

traindriver3ss, bournemouth says...
1:56pm Sun 14 Feb 10

perhaps if women would learn to listen to what you actually say and stop "reading between the lines" and also learnt that there is no need to use 300 words when 10 will do things would be easier!!!!

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