Motorists confused by 30mph and 40mph speed limit signs at Bakers Arms roundabout (From Bournemouth Echo)
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Motorists confused by 30mph and 40mph speed limit signs at Bakers Arms roundabout
11:00am Wednesday 1st September 2010 in
SO is it a 30mph or a 40mph zone? That’s the question, but does anyone know the answer?
This is the confusing juxtaposition of speed limit markers that has been baffling drivers as they head into Lytchett Minster from the Bakers Arms roundabout for over a week.
According to Dorset County Council the mishap arose when the speed limit was lowered on August 20 – and drivers should only pay attention to the 30mph sign, which “takes precedence”.
Clear as mud?
Ben Dalton, manager of St Peter’s Finger pub in Lytchett Minster, called the signs and changing speed limits “pretty poor and confusing”.
He added: “There’s a lot of tourists round here as well – it’s confusing even for me and I do the route about 10 times a week.”
Paul Johns, ward councillor for Lytchett Minster and Upton West, said: “I’m very concerned.
“It’s confusing for everyone and needs to be rectified.”
He said it was “ridiculous” to have two speed limits on the same road at the same time, and the public “weren’t to know” which took precedence. A Dorset County Council spokesperson said the strange mix of markers came about when the 30mph speed limit in Lytchett Minster was extended all the way along Dorchester Road back to the roundabout – previously a short 40mph stretch.
He added: “The signs were changed to display the new speed limit but unfortunately, due to heavy rain, our contractors were unable to complete the removal of the 40mph painted roundel, as this requires the road to be dry.
“The old 40mph roundel has been marked with spray paint for removal and will be repainted this week.
“Drivers should take note of the 30mph sign, which takes precedence.”
Comments(17)
rayc
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3:20pm Wed 1 Sep 10
I expect he/she went on the same training course as the Poole Council spokesperson who said the average speed cameras being trialled in Springdale Road as there to protect children going to Springdale First School.
poolebabe
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4:36pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Rally
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5:43pm Wed 1 Sep 10
poolebabe wrote:It would seem that a lot of motorists go out in their vehicles but leave behind their common sense and sense of responsibility.
The signs are confusing yes, but with a 30 sign there, anyone even trying to get away with fines for doing a 40 is just silly. The council should remove the 40mph sign as the 30 went up, that's fair enough, but if people honestly get confused and risk a higher speed, then they obviously don't have common sense, or a sense of responsibility.
Perry_Winkle
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6:44pm Wed 1 Sep 10
And local authority workers wonder that they have such a poor reputation...
twobigdogs
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7:11pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Rally wrote:Here we go again..............m
poolebabe wrote: The signs are confusing yes, but with a 30 sign there, anyone even trying to get away with fines for doing a 40 is just silly. The council should remove the 40mph sign as the 30 went up, that's fair enough, but if people honestly get confused and risk a higher speed, then they obviously don't have common sense, or a sense of responsibility.It would seem that a lot of motorists go out in their vehicles but leave behind their common sense and sense of responsibility.
ore anti motorist drivel!.............
....give it a rest ....................
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globecodds
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11:39pm Wed 1 Sep 10
Rally
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1:49am Thu 2 Sep 10
twobigdogs wrote:Steady on, twobigdogs.
Rally wrote:Here we go again..............m ore anti motorist drivel!............. ....give it a rest .................... .................poolebabe wrote: The signs are confusing yes, but with a 30 sign there, anyone even trying to get away with fines for doing a 40 is just silly. The council should remove the 40mph sign as the 30 went up, that's fair enough, but if people honestly get confused and risk a higher speed, then they obviously don't have common sense, or a sense of responsibility.It would seem that a lot of motorists go out in their vehicles but leave behind their common sense and sense of responsibility.
Now you're indulging in knee-jerk reaction.
You're not going to tell me that as a motorist you've never muttered or hollered some expletive or other at another motorist for cutting across you, tailgating you, turning without signalling, or any one of a host of other irksome driving errors that fellow motorists heap on us, and - let's be honest here - we heap on them.
One piece of advice given to motorists by expert drivers is: treat other road users as idiots.
So, you see, my comment is not 'anti-motorist drivel' after all.
upontown
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3:24am Thu 2 Sep 10
C-o-m-u-n-i-c-a-t-e!
EGHH
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6:20am Thu 2 Sep 10
McPricker
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8:21am Thu 2 Sep 10
twobigdogs wrote:Yeah, because saying that some motorists are irresponsible is the same as saying they're all scum. I get your point. You talk a lot of sense.
Rally wrote:Here we go again..............m
poolebabe wrote: The signs are confusing yes, but with a 30 sign there, anyone even trying to get away with fines for doing a 40 is just silly. The council should remove the 40mph sign as the 30 went up, that's fair enough, but if people honestly get confused and risk a higher speed, then they obviously don't have common sense, or a sense of responsibility.It would seem that a lot of motorists go out in their vehicles but leave behind their common sense and sense of responsibility.
ore anti motorist drivel!.............
....give it a rest ....................
.................
gudmenrmist
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8:22am Thu 2 Sep 10
rook
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9:18am Thu 2 Sep 10
Alternatively, if in doubt, assume the highest possible allowed speed is always the one to obey, then moan when one day you find it actually wasn't ;-)
Also, on this stretch of road, you'll quite soon find yourself in a built-up area with street lights, so the default is 30 anyway, and there's the small matter of a school (very strangely located, I admit) with most pupils walking or cycling to Upton.
McPricker
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9:24am Thu 2 Sep 10
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And don't worry, when I've had a few drinks I slow down to compensate for my slower reaction times – so it's just the same as if I'm sober but speeding. Speeding, drink-driving… same thing really.
Insight
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11:44am Thu 2 Sep 10
The 30 sign shouldn't have been erected until the 40 had been removed, it's nothing more than simple bureaucratic incompetence and in any other walk of life that's all it'd be seen as.
McPricker
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2:16pm Fri 3 Sep 10
Insight wrote:Oh dear, you must be so disappointed you can't start copying and pasting all that text again… that no one, NO ONE, ever reads. How sad.
I don't think there's even room for the traditional car/speeding/camera arguments on this one.
The 30 sign shouldn't have been erected until the 40 had been removed, it's nothing more than simple bureaucratic incompetence and in any other walk of life that's all it'd be seen as.
traindriver3ss
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8:39pm Thu 9 Sep 10
globecodds wrote:does anyone here not actually know anything about the highway code FFS? it is quite clear what the speed limit is from the only sign in the picture! which funnily enough fits the description and examples shown in the highway code!!!! the paint on the road is irrelevant!!! If i went along and painted 100 in a big circle on the spur road i bet some idiot would try and use it as an excuse for speeding!!!!!!
The 30 sign is legal under the highway code, the painted one is not, simples
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McPricker says...
11:38am Wed 1 Sep 10
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I'm sure all those people who moan about having to stare at their speedos whenever there's a speed camera will agree with me. Remember, use gaffer tape to cover the speedo so it can't distract you!
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Dorset Pro-Speeding website coming soon, complete with misinformation and nonsense.