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Plans for a ‘dynamic’ building at Poole Quay site

7:30pm Wednesday 1st July 2009 in


AN 11-STOREY tower could dominate Poole Quay’s skyline if a multi-million pound waterfront hotel and residential development gets the go ahead.

Patch Properties, has submitted an application to Poole council which includes a 149-bed hotel with 11-storey tower, as well as more than 150 homes in blocks up to six storeys, plus shops and public space.

It is the developer’s second proposal for the Quay Thistle Hotel and former East Quay Depot site, for which it paid £19 million in 2006. The first – which included 260 flats and a seven-storey hotel – was withdrawn in September when Poole planners listed 18 reasons for refusing.

The latest plans, particularly the 11-storey tower, have sparked objections, including from the Society of Poole Men. In a letter to planners, the society urged “that the top floor become a public view deck”, adding “such a tall building” without public access would be a “loss of a very valuable amenity.” They also expressed concern over the underground car park and flood risks.

Neighbours at Baiter Gardens, which has more than 50 sheltered accommodation units, are also worried. Anthony Soar, 72, said the noise and dirt produced by the building work would be “very stressful”.

“There just isn’t the infrastructure to support it,” he added. “I accept the area needs to be developed – at the moment it’s an eyesore – but the scale of the project is ridiculous.”

Jacqueline Mulliner, technical director at planning specialist Terence O’Rourke, which is working on the scheme, said: “It has been agreed with the council a dynamic building should be provided. The design, and proposed heights, have therefore been a positive choice, made in consultation with the council and English Heritage.”

She said they believed the scheme would make “a significant and positive contribution to the town.”

She confirmed the public would have access to some parts of the hotel, but not the tower.

The target date for decision is September 9.

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Comments(18)

godzillareturns says...
9:42am Thu 2 Jul 09

great!!! more high building to block the view

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free wessex says...
10:43am Thu 2 Jul 09

Oh dear! Take a look at a similar design at West Bay, in reality they end up looking like gun emplacements akin to Hitler's Atlantic wall and get covered in seagull dollop!

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AKKA says...
10:51am Thu 2 Jul 09

Here we go again.
When will the council get it into their heads? WE DO NOT NEED OR WANT ANY MORE TALL BLOCKS IN THIS TOWN!!!!!!
Poole is not Miami or Dubai.
It is fast becoming the ugliest town on the south coast.
Bring back and profit from its heritage and character. Look at places like Dartmouth, see beyond the bricks & blocks.

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Perry_Winkle says...
12:57pm Thu 2 Jul 09

A dynamic building? Is it going to move around then? Go for a jog every morning? Yet again, we are in danger of paying for some public servant's fantasy - Poole Quay is not Canary Wharf! It's bad enough they allowed the creation of a chav hutch on Sterte, further ruining the skyline on a major approach to Poole.

Are these people supposed to be professional planners? Time to think about what the word 'planning' means...

Security word 'true-pair'; let's hope BoP grow some!

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rook says...
1:14pm Thu 2 Jul 09

Excellent plans. It will modernise and improve the whole quayside area.

Oh - apparently we're supposed to object to anything which addresses the inevitable medium-term growth in the area. Why not make it like Miami, or even Sydney? Perhaps the old hotel site should be replaced with 1930's style 2 up 2 downs to fit in with the rest of the area.

I agree with the Poole Men that making the upper level open to the public would be a good idea, and a couple of restaurants with views over the harbour would surely bring extra revenue to the hotel.

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EdBmth says...
1:18pm Thu 2 Jul 09

Are we going to end up with another huge mess up like Dolphin Quays, with the company going bust half way through and directors of the parent company in prison?

An attempt to Google Patch Properties comes up with very little. A search via companies house comes up with a registered address of a cottage in Fishbourne Chichester. This company is listed as Adult and other educaction.

So who are patch properties and what are Poole Council letting themselves in for this time?


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Perry_Winkle says...
1:27pm Thu 2 Jul 09

"She confirmed the public would have access to some parts of the hotel, but not the tower."

Be a pretty funny hotel if the public didn't have access!! LOL

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PoisonedPen says...
1:33pm Thu 2 Jul 09

rook wrote:
Excellent plans. It will modernise and improve the whole quayside area.

Oh - apparently we're supposed to object to anything which addresses the inevitable medium-term growth in the area. Why not make it like Miami, or even Sydney? Perhaps the old hotel site should be replaced with 1930's style 2 up 2 downs to fit in with the rest of the area.

I agree with the Poole Men that making the upper level open to the public would be a good idea, and a couple of restaurants with views over the harbour would surely bring extra revenue to the hotel.
This isn't anything to do with the 'growth' in the area. This is not going to provide housing for locals. It's aim is to attract more wealthy grockles ..just like the eyesore next to it - to the detriment of the rest of us.

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Kevicious says...
1:36pm Thu 2 Jul 09

rook wrote:
Excellent plans. It will modernise and improve the whole quayside area. Oh - apparently we're supposed to object to anything which addresses the inevitable medium-term growth in the area. Why not make it like Miami, or even Sydney? Perhaps the old hotel site should be replaced with 1930's style 2 up 2 downs to fit in with the rest of the area. I agree with the Poole Men that making the upper level open to the public would be a good idea, and a couple of restaurants with views over the harbour would surely bring extra revenue to the hotel.
So how are luxury apartments going to help the long-term growth of Poole? More rich part-time residents, holiday lets and part-empty buildings, doing nothing for the long-term needs of Poole and its residents.

This part of town is everyones heritage, not the playground for the rich elite. A small hotel and a cultural attraction that Poole can be proud of (and will bring in money) would be a long term plan that would suit everyone but the property developers. And quite frankly I couldn't give a monkeys about them, given the souless mess they have already inflicted upon our town.

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585 says...
2:38pm Thu 2 Jul 09

Sounds like the Weymouth Pavilion scheme regurgitated and look what a mess that is in, the original contractors left and the successors are 'keeping their options open'.

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poolebabe says...
5:22pm Thu 2 Jul 09

YUK YUK YUK YUK! NO NO NO NO!! I really hate the modern look. I can't stand it at all. I visit Plymouth and the Ho and the Barbican, gorgeous, subtly modern, but maintained character. Loads of places in Cornwall, all quaint, very old and full of character and it is that character that brings the visitors to the towns and villages. Poole Quay USED to be such a lovely place with the penny arcades, aquarium, old town, Poole Pottery, it is now ruined in my opinion by this modern montrosity. I do not like any of it. I wish the BOP would stop trying to please the needs of the posh nobs!!

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benjamin says...
5:23pm Thu 2 Jul 09

More ugliness to spoil the Poole skyline. The design will fit in well with the camouflaged blocks of flats already spoiling the views. Maybe we need a hotelto replace the Thistle. We do not need more expensive empty flats or more enpty shop units to go with the still empty ones in the Dolphin Quay devolopement.

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rook says...
9:59pm Thu 2 Jul 09

Sorry chaps - looks like I've ruffled a few feathers.

I think attracting rich people from out of town is exactly what is needed as it brings wealth to the area which flows through the economy. In a similar way, you might ask who in Poole needs a Sunseeker, but the follow-on businesses which benefit from that one company are considerable and the employees of these companies might well spend their wages in Poole.

Obviously, whether you like or dislike the design is purely personal. I do, but we're all entitled to an opinion on what we think would fit best.

I wan't around when the plans for Barclays House were announced, but you can't deny that whether you like it or not, it's certainly brought wealth to the region.

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sen-m says...
10:57pm Thu 2 Jul 09

Poole council has been slowly killing Poole over the years.Why? any body born in Poole had rights on what they could do in the harbour area,this was decreed in a charter presented to the people of Poole (I'm not sure by which king tho I'm pos that the men of Poole would be able to fill in the gaps)these rights have been taken away from us over time.They are allowing the Quay to be ruined by these monstrous buildings which are to high and not in keeping with Poole and not affordable for local people.Beware because if this goes a head those who buy these properties will soon complain and try to stop people using the Quay like they tried to stop the bike night which raises money for charity and brings in money for the town.

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dasentity says...
7:44am Fri 3 Jul 09

Why? notice that they are all flats....I'm sorry to say but the council are ripping the heart out of this town. And its all to do with money. They say Poole is a beautiful place....all its going to be is a huge human car park. I cannot afford to live here anymore, kick out the poor and get in the rich...its a sad situation

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miketheplumb says...
12:51pm Fri 3 Jul 09

Somebody obviously thought this one through then. Let's build a tower (sorry read eyesore) and stop the peaant from gaining the benefit of the view it might offer. Wonder why they never thought of that in New York!
Just what we need NOT.

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stuartc73 says...
2:09am Sat 4 Jul 09

The 'Poole Quarter' over Seldown Bridge looks like a Ghetto already. This will look vile, there are too many flats in Poole, NO more please.

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John.Sprackling says...
8:39am Sun 5 Jul 09

EdBmth, Bournemouth asks "So who are Patch Properties and what are Poole Council letting themselves in for this time?

Well may he ask.

A request for the assignment of the Quay Thistle lease to Patch Properties 2006 Limited Partnership, a subsidiary of Burleigh Estates (Holdings) Ltd, and guaranteed by Metnor Group PLC was agreed by the Poole Council's Cabinet at their meeting on 19/09/06.

The accounts to 31/03/08 for Burleigh Estates (Poole) Limited state...

The company holds the shares in Wyatt Properties Limited as part of a joint venture to develop a property site owned by Patch Properties 2006 LP
(Wyatt Properties Limited, a property company registered in the British Virgin Islands does not publish its accounts)

The accounts to 31/03/08 for Burleigh Estates Holding Limited state...
The company has taken advantage of the exemptions in Financial Reporting Standard 8 not to disclose related party transactions between group companies where 90% or more of the voting rights are controlled within the group and where group accounts are prepared.

Other related parties disclosures include: Burleigh Estates (Poole) Limited

It seems that the ultimate holding company for Burleigh Estates (Poole) Limited and Burleigh Estates Holding Limited is Burleigh Estates PLC


Bearing in mind the Orb Developments 'saga', let's hope that the Council are confident that it knows who it is dealing with.

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