POLICE chiefs are using a brand-new licensing policy to try and stop a convenience store from selling alcohol.
Bournemouth Police are citing the fact that Charminster Road is now officially within a "cumulative impact area" to object to a licensing application by local store Bestbuy.
The decision to enlarge the cumulative impact area was only passed by full council in April. It means there is now a presumption that all new licensing applications in the area will be rejected.
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Applicants can only overcome this by convincing councillors their premises will not add to the levels of crime and disorder in the area.
In paperwork provided to the council's licensing committee, police analyst Matthew Seager said that more than a third of all violent crimes in Winton and Charminster between April 2007 and March 2008 occurred within 300 metres of Charminster Road.
"This suggests that violent crime in this geographical area is concentrated along Charminster Road and it is indeed one of the area's main violent crime hotspots," his report states.
But Dorset Licensing, acting on behalf of the store's owner, say the premises will comply with the recommendations of the Dorset Police crime prevention officer and CCTV images will be made available to the police on request.
They also say that alcohol will not be sold if there are any grounds to believe the sale will result in crime and disorder.
The request will go before the council's licensing board on Thursday.
Posted by: Christopher, Wallisdown & Winton West on 4:21pm Wed 7 May 08
More booze blocks should be issued out to off licences and other stores who persistently sell alcohol to the under aged. It goes on, and will continue to go on. There are a few culprits in this area.
More booze blocks should be issued out to off licences and other stores who persistently sell alcohol to the under aged. It goes on, and will continue to go on. There are a few culprits in this area.
Posted by: busman, Bournemouth on 5:40pm Wed 7 May 08
to be fair to some of the off licences, the kids who get hold of the alcohol use several diversionary tactics to confuse the shop assistant.
I have been in an off licence on a friday night and witnessed a group of young people come in and they split up, a few go to the counter and ask questions or buy sweets etc and generally make a lot of noise to keep attention away from the others who are stealing beer from the display fridges.
convenience stores need to have the alcohol behind the counter, not on display out in the shop.
to be fair to some of the off licences, the kids who get hold of the alcohol use several diversionary tactics to confuse the shop assistant.
I have been in an off licence on a friday night and witnessed a group of young people come in and they split up, a few go to the counter and ask questions or buy sweets etc and generally make a lot of noise to keep attention away from the others who are stealing beer from the display fridges.
convenience stores need to have the alcohol behind the counter, not on display out in the shop.
[quote][bold]busman[/bold] wrote:
to be fair to some of the off licences, the kids who get hold of the alcohol use several diversionary tactics to confuse the shop assistant.
I have been in an off licence on a friday night and witnessed a group of young people come in and they split up, a few go to the counter and ask questions or buy sweets etc and generally make a lot of noise to keep attention away from the others who are stealing beer from the display fridges.
convenience stores need to have the alcohol behind the counter, not on display out in the shop.[/quote] As a former security guard,i know that happens a lot,but a lot of staff do not care less,
busman wrote:
to be fair to some of the off licences, the kids who get hold of the alcohol use several diversionary tactics to confuse the shop assistant.
I have been in an off licence on a friday night and witnessed a group of young people come in and they split up, a few go to the counter and ask questions or buy sweets etc and generally make a lot of noise to keep attention away from the others who are stealing beer from the display fridges.
convenience stores need to have the alcohol behind the counter, not on display out in the shop.
As a former security guard,i know that happens a lot,but a lot of staff do not care less,
Posted by: fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown on 8:06am Thu 8 May 08
[quote][bold]Tony[/bold] wrote:
"oscar99" What a mess you have made of your spelllllllllllling,e ducation education education. [/quote] Probably a Bournemouth University student ;-)
Tony wrote:
"oscar99" What a mess you have made of your spelllllllllllling,e ducation education education.
Posted by: Samuel Cooke, Southbourne on 11:24am Thu 8 May 08
What a load of rubbish. What is happening to the England and its civil liberties. I am all for trying to crackdown on these 'binge drinking' hotspots and believe that there isn't enough punishment for these louts... but to stop a business from selling alcohol is disgusting.
What about the countless clubs in Bournemouth where these people get off their faces on a regular basis. Surely more control here would be targeting the problem much more finely than taking away one shops liberties while the other traders around have free reign, and the lager louts just go there for any alcohol instead.
What a load of rubbish. What is happening to the England and its civil liberties. I am all for trying to crackdown on these 'binge drinking' hotspots and believe that there isn't enough punishment for these louts... but to stop a business from selling alcohol is disgusting.
What about the countless clubs in Bournemouth where these people get off their faces on a regular basis. Surely more control here would be targeting the problem much more finely than taking away one shops liberties while the other traders around have free reign, and the lager louts just go there for any alcohol instead.
Posted by: 2Much, New Forest on 2:48pm Thu 8 May 08
[quote][bold]Samuel Cooke[/bold] wrote:
What a load of rubbish. What is happening to the England and its civil liberties. I am all for trying to crackdown on these 'binge drinking' hotspots and believe that there isn't enough punishment for these louts... but to stop a business from selling alcohol is disgusting. What about the countless clubs in Bournemouth where these people get off their faces on a regular basis. Surely more control here would be targeting the problem much more finely than taking away one shops liberties while the other traders around have free reign, and the lager louts just go there for any alcohol instead. [/quote] It's not disgusting that alcohol sales are being stopped in premises that have no regard for the law. It's all very well if you have a business, but that shop shouldn't rely on the sale of alcohol for profit making. When you have corner shops like we have, all sorts of people are employed, and maybe not given appropriate training..therefore mistakes will be made. I don't believe it's necessary for all the Spars/Londis/Tesco Express etc to have s=to sell booze.
Samuel Cooke wrote:
What a load of rubbish. What is happening to the England and its civil liberties. I am all for trying to crackdown on these 'binge drinking' hotspots and believe that there isn't enough punishment for these louts... but to stop a business from selling alcohol is disgusting. What about the countless clubs in Bournemouth where these people get off their faces on a regular basis. Surely more control here would be targeting the problem much more finely than taking away one shops liberties while the other traders around have free reign, and the lager louts just go there for any alcohol instead.
It's not disgusting that alcohol sales are being stopped in premises that have no regard for the law. It's all very well if you have a business, but that shop shouldn't rely on the sale of alcohol for profit making. When you have corner shops like we have, all sorts of people are employed, and maybe not given appropriate training..therefore mistakes will be made. I don't believe it's necessary for all the Spars/Londis/Tesco Express etc to have s=to sell booze.
Posted by: Christopher, Wallisdown & Winton West on 10:17pm Thu 8 May 08
In all fairness, with the exception of certain singled out Off Licences, most are abiding by the rules of their licence, like most pubs. It is the convenience stores, in particular those who employ the age group of those who come in to buy alcohol, who are left to man the store on their own, whilst the adults of the store sit out the back smoking. Yes, the stores know who we mean.
Clubs in town may do this, but that is then their problem to ensure it does not happen by rigourous checking at the doors. If you see the bottles of wine, spirits, cider, all empty lying round the local gathering points and parks. You will realise these do not come from the clubs, but the local stores.
In all fairness, with the exception of certain singled out Off Licences, most are abiding by the rules of their licence, like most pubs. It is the convenience stores, in particular those who employ the age group of those who come in to buy alcohol, who are left to man the store on their own, whilst the adults of the store sit out the back smoking. Yes, the stores know who we mean.
Clubs in town may do this, but that is then their problem to ensure it does not happen by rigourous checking at the doors. If you see the bottles of wine, spirits, cider, all empty lying round the local gathering points and parks. You will realise these do not come from the clubs, but the local stores.
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