Call for action over danger trees as car is crushed (From Bournemouth Echo)
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Call for action over danger trees as car is crushed
10:00am Thursday 11th October 2012 in News By Melanie Vass
The pine tree that fell on top of a car in Knyveton Road
CONCERNED residents are calling for action after a large pine tree fell and crushed a parked car.
Fortunately there was nobody in the silver Renault Clio, which was parked in Knyveton Road, Bournemouth, when the tree fell shortly after 8pm on Tuesday.
But this is the second tree to have fallen in this area in the past two years and residents are worried other trees may be unsafe.
They are now calling on the council to start replacing some of the older trees that appear to be leaning and could potentially pose a problem.
Simon Goodwin, the proprietor of the Cransley Hotel in Knyveton Road, said: “It does concern me. Knyveton Road is obviously full of pine trees that have been here for 100 years or more and many are well past their sell-by date.
“I just think they need to be lopped. They need to be replaced with smaller trees. It’s just becoming a danger now.
“We’ve got several in our car park and we have to keep having the dead stuff removed from them. Because of the tree preservation orders we can’t do anything else with them and there’s always a risk they could fall and injure someone or damage a car.”
Jonathan Perry, his co-proprietor, said: “Another tree came down in the same spot two years ago. Just like this time, that occurred when there was no wind at all. It is worrying.
“Other trees are leaning quite a lot. Sooner or later, there’s going to be someone either killed or hurt.”
Andy McDonald, parks manager for Bournemouth council, said: “We inspect all of the borough’s trees on a regular basis. The pine trees in this area were inspected recently but there were no indications that this tree posed any risk of falling.
“We are of course investigating what happened by unfortunately some trees do fall without any pre-warning or explanation. We will continue our inspections and if we have any concerns we will take the most appropriate action.”
Dorset Police confirmed the Renault was registered to a woman from Weston-Super-Mare. A lamppost was also damaged by the tree.
There was also a fallen tree at Colehill, when an oak tree crushed the perimeter fence at Colehill First School and fell over the footpath and verge. This incident, which also occurred on Tuesday evening, was dealt with by Dorset County Council, which made the area safe and erected temporary fencing.
Comments(27)
Say-it-how-it-is
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10:37am Thu 11 Oct 12
Your reporter in spain wrote:Couldn't of said it better. We need tree's, not chop them down. As you said they are the lungs of the world. Without these we can't breath. And what Simon said is just stupid "It does concern me. Knyveton Road is obviously full of pine trees that have been here for 100 years or more and many are well past their sell-by date" Well past there sell by date. Is he for real. Trees live longer than 100 years. Why should they be chopped down because, oh yeah they are over 100 years now. Lets chop all trees.
2 trees in 2 years ......... Not exactly a deluge is it . But in revenge against the wicked trees ,let's cut them all down and replace them with concrete and bricks because they are worth money .who needs trees .theyre only the lungs of the world
Knee jerk nonsense ,we are not overwhelmed with reports of trees murdering people on a regular basis
a.g.o.g.
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12:00pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Tripod
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12:17pm Thu 11 Oct 12
apop3d
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1:01pm Thu 11 Oct 12
We have applied twice to take down a pine that is destroying the foundation of our house and leaning precariously toward our neighbors. We have been denied both times. The prevailing climate seems to be that taking down ANY tree is bad, which is silly. Trees don't last forever. When this tree falls on our neighbor's house and they sue us for damages, will the council stand behind their decision by holding us harmless and making restitution? No, they won't.
A reasonable and responsible approach to tree management and conservation is what we need.
Miss Opinionated
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1:41pm Thu 11 Oct 12
justanoldie
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1:50pm Thu 11 Oct 12
thevisitor
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2:08pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Tripod wrote:And make sure they are painted in time for next years Air Show. Then with all the tickets issued the council get their money back. Mouchel wouldnt have thought of that...mind you neither would Beasley
Simple answer: Paint Double Yellow Lines down the road, then trees can't fall on parked cars! ;-)
rayc
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2:32pm Thu 11 Oct 12
manyogie
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4:52pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Greggers
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5:12pm Thu 11 Oct 12
apop3d wrote:The council always puts trees before people's safety. With regard to the tree you describe - if the tree falls on your neighbour's house they can only obtain a judgement for damages against you if they can prove you've been negligent and, for example, not taken any action about a tree in an unsafe condition. As you've applied to the council to remove this tree and they have refused your application, then their arboricultural officer doesn't think that the tree is in an unsafe condition. If the tree subsequently causes damage, then the responsibility is his and the council's. I believe this applies for a year after the council's decision.
Actually if you can get past the tree huggers' knee jerk reaction, the real issue is that the council steadfastly refuses to allow trees that are a hazard to life and property be taken down. We have applied twice to take down a pine that is destroying the foundation of our house and leaning precariously toward our neighbors. We have been denied both times. The prevailing climate seems to be that taking down ANY tree is bad, which is silly. Trees don't last forever. When this tree falls on our neighbor's house and they sue us for damages, will the council stand behind their decision by holding us harmless and making restitution? No, they won't. A reasonable and responsible approach to tree management and conservation is what we need.
With regard to the trees in this story - if the trees are owned by the council then the responsibility is theirs to ensure the safety of the trees and they can be sued if it can be proved that they have shirked that responsibility.
Simon1964
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5:17pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Say-it-how-it-is wrote:I have no problem with trees, the charm of Knyveton Road is that it is an avenue of Pines and Larch trees, not "prossies" they left with Lily Langtry. I object to the council allowing these trees (out of their natural habitat) to grow so large without replacing them at intervals. These trees are top heavy and leaning dangerously. Why not remove half a dozen and replant every two or three years? The Beech Avenue by Kingston Lacy is far more historic than Knyveton Road and is to be replaced. Still with trees, not with concrete.
Your reporter in spain wrote:Couldn't of said it better. We need tree's, not chop them down. As you said they are the lungs of the world. Without these we can't breath. And what Simon said is just stupid "It does concern me. Knyveton Road is obviously full of pine trees that have been here for 100 years or more and many are well past their sell-by date" Well past there sell by date. Is he for real. Trees live longer than 100 years. Why should they be chopped down because, oh yeah they are over 100 years now. Lets chop all trees.
2 trees in 2 years ......... Not exactly a deluge is it . But in revenge against the wicked trees ,let's cut them all down and replace them with concrete and bricks because they are worth money .who needs trees .theyre only the lungs of the world
Knee jerk nonsense ,we are not overwhelmed with reports of trees murdering people on a regular basis
Incidently Say-it-how-it-is, "Couldn't HAVE" not "Couldn't OF"
Simon1964
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5:23pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Letcommonsenseprevail
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6:45pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Letcommonsenseprevail
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6:47pm Thu 11 Oct 12
LetcommonsenseprevaiMankind
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These trees are a **** nuisance and should be brought to book immediately. I mean who the hell do they think they are? Sheltering wildlife, providing timber, giving manking oxygen, holding the topsoil in place, adding to the food chain, etc, etc. Taking liberties, the lot of 'em.
Letcommonsenseprevail
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6:49pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Letcommonsenseprevail
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6:52pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Tripod wrote:And if the trees fall down over the yellow lines, some nazi traffic warden can jump out from behind his bush and slap a ticket on it!! Trees would soon stop falling over after a couple of tickets!!!
Simple answer: Paint Double Yellow Lines down the road, then trees can't fall on parked cars! ;-)
Letcommonsenseprevail
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6:55pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Simon1964 wrote:Charm of knyveton road? Who are you trying to kid?
Say-it-how-it-is wrote:I have no problem with trees, the charm of Knyveton Road is that it is an avenue of Pines and Larch trees, not "prossies" they left with Lily Langtry. I object to the council allowing these trees (out of their natural habitat) to grow so large without replacing them at intervals. These trees are top heavy and leaning dangerously. Why not remove half a dozen and replant every two or three years? The Beech Avenue by Kingston Lacy is far more historic than Knyveton Road and is to be replaced. Still with trees, not with concrete.
Your reporter in spain wrote:Couldn't of said it better. We need tree's, not chop them down. As you said they are the lungs of the world. Without these we can't breath. And what Simon said is just stupid "It does concern me. Knyveton Road is obviously full of pine trees that have been here for 100 years or more and many are well past their sell-by date" Well past there sell by date. Is he for real. Trees live longer than 100 years. Why should they be chopped down because, oh yeah they are over 100 years now. Lets chop all trees.
2 trees in 2 years ......... Not exactly a deluge is it . But in revenge against the wicked trees ,let's cut them all down and replace them with concrete and bricks because they are worth money .who needs trees .theyre only the lungs of the world
Knee jerk nonsense ,we are not overwhelmed with reports of trees murdering people on a regular basis
Incidently Say-it-how-it-is, "Couldn't HAVE" not "Couldn't OF"
Treedoctor
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8:54pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Your reporter in spain
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9:12pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Treedoctor wrote:I doubt it I think the Clio suffered fatal injuries
Whoever is responsible, the evidence points to these trees clearly posing a risk as things stand. And it isn't a question of trees vs humankind, it's a question of the two living in harmony. I imagine some serious surgery will help restore the balance.
But on a serious note ,you cannot predict when a tree will let go , so you cut down one that's listing and in the next breath of wind ,what appears to be a perfectly sound one topples , we live in the new forest ,near as **** it and the downside of living in a forest is that nature sometimes does its own thing , if you are unlucky enough to be where it falls ,that's the way of the world but these things don't go quietly ,if an 80 ft tree is ripped out of the ground you hear it go , believe me
Treedoctor
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10:36pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Letcommonsenseprevail
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10:59pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Lord Spring
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11:32pm Thu 11 Oct 12
weevie
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6:30am Fri 12 Oct 12
The Firs were there first. The whole area was heathland, right up to the clifftop.
APC303
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10:31am Fri 12 Oct 12
justanoldie wrote:Please tell me more about your understanding of your deep knowledge of the axiom of uniform stress and the strategy of the minimal lever arm....
very large trees close to homes, should be pruned to allow strong wind gusts clear passage. The "do not touch" policy has gone too far.
Simon1964
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12:39pm Fri 12 Oct 12
weevie wrote:http://south-coast-c
(Is it beyond the wit of Echo web team to stop this idiot from posting his Ads?)
The Firs were there first. The whole area was heathland, right up to the clifftop.
entral.co.uk/pines/p
ines.htm
Actually they weren't there. They were introduced by the Victorians. The heathland did not include trees
Letcommonsenseprevail
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12:49pm Fri 12 Oct 12
Simon1964 wrote:Will you guys stop PINING on? You're giving me the NEEDLE. Perhaps these trees should be CONED off.
weevie wrote: (Is it beyond the wit of Echo web team to stop this idiot from posting his Ads?) The Firs were there first. The whole area was heathland, right up to the clifftop.http://south-coast-c entral.co.uk/pines/p ines.htm Actually they weren't there. They were introduced by the Victorians. The heathland did not include trees
Your reporter in spain says...
10:22am Thu 11 Oct 12
Knee jerk nonsense ,we are not overwhelmed with reports of trees murdering people on a regular basis