Sandacres pub in Sandbanks to become a Tesco Express

Bournemouth Echo: TIME CALLED: The Sandacres pub on Banks Road, in Sandbanks TIME CALLED: The Sandacres pub on Banks Road, in Sandbanks

THE last pub on the Sandbanks peninsula has closed down and is to re-open as a Tesco Express store.

After speculation about the future of the Sandacres pub on Banks Road, which shut its doors recently, Tesco has confirmed it has signed contracts to lease the ground floor.

Residents were being told in a letter that the vacant former pub has been acquired by the supermarket giant, which will be creating 20 local jobs.

Melanie Chiswell, the community liaison manager for Tesco said: “It’s a local shop for local people.”

She said: “We don’t require planning permission because pubs can be converted to shops without planning permission under permitted development rights.

“In my experience lots of people welcome Tesco Express stores because they regenerate buildings no longer in use, such as closed down pubs.

“We don’t have to knock the building down, can return some of its nice original features and improve the look of it.”

However Ken Sanson, chairman of the Sandbanks Association, expressed surprise and apprehension about the move.

“Once you come on to the peninsula, not every property is fully active. The main problem, of course, is the traffic for deliveries to stock the place. It will cause traffic problems in an area that is already affected by traffic problems.”

Cllr Bruce Grant-Braham, chairman of Poole Tourism Partnership, pictured inset, said: “It’s a pity. From the tourist point of view, it’s the ideal place to have a drink when you are approaching or leaving the beach.

“When I was a councillor for the area, there were very few residents living on Sandbanks and in the immediate vicinity. An awful lot of the properties are holiday or second homes and for much of the year they remain unoccupied.”

A popular venue on its Tuesday quiz nights, the pub across the road from the sea also attracted windsurfers and kitesurfers from Whitley Bay as well as holidaymakers and locals.

Tesco Express stores hours are usually from 6-7am to 10-11pm and it will have three to five deliveries a day. “Most of our customers walk,” said Ms Chiswell.

“They mostly come from within 1km.” However there will be some parking in the former pub’s car park.

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10:29am Fri 28 Sep 12

Dibbles2 says...

“In my experience lots of people welcome Tesco Express stores because they regenerate buildings no longer in use, such as closed down pubs. “Most of our customers walk,” said Ms Chiswell."

Wake up Ms Chiswell! You seriously need to go and visit the Wallisdown Tesco express! Which incidentally needs a better quality of staff and freezers that work! You put parking spaces backing onto a bus stop! I sincerely hope that the first person that gets hurt there sues Tesco express.
“In my experience lots of people welcome Tesco Express stores because they regenerate buildings no longer in use, such as closed down pubs. “Most of our customers walk,” said Ms Chiswell." Wake up Ms Chiswell! You seriously need to go and visit the Wallisdown Tesco express! Which incidentally needs a better quality of staff and freezers that work! You put parking spaces backing onto a bus stop! I sincerely hope that the first person that gets hurt there sues Tesco express. Dibbles2

10:32am Fri 28 Sep 12

Roband65 says...

The articulated lorries that deliver to the lilliput store cause enough problems where are they going to unload in shore road !
The articulated lorries that deliver to the lilliput store cause enough problems where are they going to unload in shore road ! Roband65

10:35am Fri 28 Sep 12

Humf says...

A jaw-dropping story indeed, a Tescos in Sandbanks and right on the harbour ? Lovely ! Carrier bags, rubbish, lovely bright tescos sign shining out from 7 -11. And on the corner of shore road at a junction where an accident waiting to happen. Is there any point having planning laws or departments ?

And the League of Gentlemen comment from the community liaison manager “It’s a local shop for local people.” - hilarious.
A jaw-dropping story indeed, a Tescos in Sandbanks and right on the harbour ? Lovely ! Carrier bags, rubbish, lovely bright tescos sign shining out from 7 -11. And on the corner of shore road at a junction where an accident waiting to happen. Is there any point having planning laws or departments ? And the League of Gentlemen comment from the community liaison manager “It’s a local shop for local people.” - hilarious. Humf

10:39am Fri 28 Sep 12

HRH of Boscombe says...

Surely Sandbanks should have a Harrods express or at least Waitrose.
Surely Sandbanks should have a Harrods express or at least Waitrose. HRH of Boscombe

11:21am Fri 28 Sep 12

Couchy125 says...

I hope they are going to stock plenty of prawn sandwiches.
I hope they are going to stock plenty of prawn sandwiches. Couchy125

11:36am Fri 28 Sep 12

sollie says...

Creating 20 jobs - does that mean we will see Harry Rednap on the tills!
Creating 20 jobs - does that mean we will see Harry Rednap on the tills! sollie

11:47am Fri 28 Sep 12

Brit76 says...

Mr Sansom, Chairman of Sandbanks Association, please don't give the potential for traffic issues (negligible) as the reason for your concern.

The real reason for your disapproval is down to snobbery and the fact that a Tesco store is not up market enough for the folk of Sandbanks.
Mr Sansom, Chairman of Sandbanks Association, please don't give the potential for traffic issues (negligible) as the reason for your concern. The real reason for your disapproval is down to snobbery and the fact that a Tesco store is not up market enough for the folk of Sandbanks. Brit76

11:52am Fri 28 Sep 12

Winstonchilled says...

not another one.................
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not another one................. ................. Winstonchilled

11:59am Fri 28 Sep 12

Couchy125 says...

sollie wrote:
Creating 20 jobs - does that mean we will see Harry Rednap on the tills!
Do you mean REDKNAPP.
[quote][p][bold]sollie[/bold] wrote: Creating 20 jobs - does that mean we will see Harry Rednap on the tills![/p][/quote]Do you mean REDKNAPP. Couchy125

12:02pm Fri 28 Sep 12

giveusthefacts says...

I am surprised the Sandacres lasted as long as it did. I use to frequent it on a regular basis. Unfortunately the landlady would only make an appearance at the end of the evening and became ruder and ruder. The last straw came when she bellowed across the pub that she had told us to drink up,so could we leave. I told her what I thought of her customer skills and did not frequent the place again. It's a shame because it could have been a great venue especially in the summer.
I am surprised the Sandacres lasted as long as it did. I use to frequent it on a regular basis. Unfortunately the landlady would only make an appearance at the end of the evening and became ruder and ruder. The last straw came when she bellowed across the pub that she had told us to drink up,so could we leave. I told her what I thought of her customer skills and did not frequent the place again. It's a shame because it could have been a great venue especially in the summer. giveusthefacts

12:04pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Lord Spring says...

sollie wrote:
Creating 20 jobs - does that mean we will see Harry Rednap on the tills!
And Richard Carr as a greeter, Dave Wells stacking shelves.
[quote][p][bold]sollie[/bold] wrote: Creating 20 jobs - does that mean we will see Harry Rednap on the tills![/p][/quote]And Richard Carr as a greeter, Dave Wells stacking shelves. Lord Spring

12:08pm Fri 28 Sep 12

grazzer says...

pubs are closing at an alarming rate and the fact that closed pubs can be turned into more Tesco Expresses without planning permission is a key factor in their demise.This will mean that there is now know proper pub in the area which means nowhere to go unless you are a footballer or estate agent-an absolute disgrace
Graham Cribb
pubs are closing at an alarming rate and the fact that closed pubs can be turned into more Tesco Expresses without planning permission is a key factor in their demise.This will mean that there is now know proper pub in the area which means nowhere to go unless you are a footballer or estate agent-an absolute disgrace Graham Cribb grazzer

12:09pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Justin666 says...

Upgrading Sandbanks at last.
Upgrading Sandbanks at last. Justin666

12:11pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Wardy72 says...

Absolutely appalling. Whoever let that happen needs there head examining. How many Tesco stores do we need in the same vicinity? Just goes to show greed is the only agenda for the councils in this area.
Absolutely appalling. Whoever let that happen needs there head examining. How many Tesco stores do we need in the same vicinity? Just goes to show greed is the only agenda for the councils in this area. Wardy72

12:13pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Couchy125 says...

Wardy72 wrote:
Absolutely appalling. Whoever let that happen needs there head examining. How many Tesco stores do we need in the same vicinity? Just goes to show greed is the only agenda for the councils in this area.
Oh for gods sake have a wash. I would have chosen ALDI myself.
[quote][p][bold]Wardy72[/bold] wrote: Absolutely appalling. Whoever let that happen needs there head examining. How many Tesco stores do we need in the same vicinity? Just goes to show greed is the only agenda for the councils in this area.[/p][/quote]Oh for gods sake have a wash. I would have chosen ALDI myself. Couchy125

12:18pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Justin666 says...

Couchy, you are quite right of course. Aldi would be far more appropriate for the local residents who may have difficulty in affording up market Tesco.
Couchy, you are quite right of course. Aldi would be far more appropriate for the local residents who may have difficulty in affording up market Tesco. Justin666

12:20pm Fri 28 Sep 12

boblister says...

With a Tesco Express less than a mile away at Lilliput did we really need another shop!!

It was bad enough losing the Beehive Pub at Lilliput, for an old peoples dwelling.

This is the last straw, it is an appalling decision. What about the new Localism Act don't we have a say??
With a Tesco Express less than a mile away at Lilliput did we really need another shop!! It was bad enough losing the Beehive Pub at Lilliput, for an old peoples dwelling. This is the last straw, it is an appalling decision. What about the new Localism Act don't we have a say?? boblister

12:24pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Mike Oxbig says...

grazzer wrote:
pubs are closing at an alarming rate and the fact that closed pubs can be turned into more Tesco Expresses without planning permission is a key factor in their demise.This will mean that there is now know proper pub in the area which means nowhere to go unless you are a footballer or estate agent-an absolute disgrace
Graham Cribb
What about the Beehive??
[quote][p][bold]grazzer[/bold] wrote: pubs are closing at an alarming rate and the fact that closed pubs can be turned into more Tesco Expresses without planning permission is a key factor in their demise.This will mean that there is now know proper pub in the area which means nowhere to go unless you are a footballer or estate agent-an absolute disgrace Graham Cribb[/p][/quote]What about the Beehive?? Mike Oxbig

12:26pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Mike Oxbig says...

Mike Oxbig wrote:
grazzer wrote:
pubs are closing at an alarming rate and the fact that closed pubs can be turned into more Tesco Expresses without planning permission is a key factor in their demise.This will mean that there is now know proper pub in the area which means nowhere to go unless you are a footballer or estate agent-an absolute disgrace
Graham Cribb
What about the Beehive??
I mean the Nightjar!
[quote][p][bold]Mike Oxbig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grazzer[/bold] wrote: pubs are closing at an alarming rate and the fact that closed pubs can be turned into more Tesco Expresses without planning permission is a key factor in their demise.This will mean that there is now know proper pub in the area which means nowhere to go unless you are a footballer or estate agent-an absolute disgrace Graham Cribb[/p][/quote]What about the Beehive??[/p][/quote]I mean the Nightjar! Mike Oxbig

12:26pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Couchy125 says...

Justin666 wrote:
Couchy, you are quite right of course. Aldi would be far more appropriate for the local residents who may have difficulty in affording up market Tesco.
You know it makes sense.
[quote][p][bold]Justin666[/bold] wrote: Couchy, you are quite right of course. Aldi would be far more appropriate for the local residents who may have difficulty in affording up market Tesco.[/p][/quote]You know it makes sense. Couchy125

12:28pm Fri 28 Sep 12

chiefwolf2 says...

blame the public who didn't use the pub.... and blame the public for using stores like this... they wouldn't build them if people didn't use them.... It is society and the consumerism culture that we have to blame for these stores popping up everywhere.......
blame the public who didn't use the pub.... and blame the public for using stores like this... they wouldn't build them if people didn't use them.... It is society and the consumerism culture that we have to blame for these stores popping up everywhere....... chiefwolf2

12:29pm Fri 28 Sep 12

wonderway says...

boblister wrote:
With a Tesco Express less than a mile away at Lilliput did we really need another shop!!

It was bad enough losing the Beehive Pub at Lilliput, for an old peoples dwelling.

This is the last straw, it is an appalling decision. What about the new Localism Act don't we have a say??
yea ask the whale EricPickles while he stuffs a prawn baguette in his mouth (sideways)
[quote][p][bold]boblister[/bold] wrote: With a Tesco Express less than a mile away at Lilliput did we really need another shop!! It was bad enough losing the Beehive Pub at Lilliput, for an old peoples dwelling. This is the last straw, it is an appalling decision. What about the new Localism Act don't we have a say??[/p][/quote]yea ask the whale EricPickles while he stuffs a prawn baguette in his mouth (sideways) wonderway

12:31pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Adrian XX says...

giveusthefacts wrote:
I am surprised the Sandacres lasted as long as it did. I use to frequent it on a regular basis. Unfortunately the landlady would only make an appearance at the end of the evening and became ruder and ruder. The last straw came when she bellowed across the pub that she had told us to drink up,so could we leave. I told her what I thought of her customer skills and did not frequent the place again. It's a shame because it could have been a great venue especially in the summer.
Yes, you are right. She was the rudest landlady (and actually the owner too as far as I know) on earth and had zero customer-facing skills. Luckily she wasn't there all the time.

The Sandacres was not a bad place when she wasn't there serving some decent real ale and cheap food too. Her bad reputation spread and many people just didn't go there because of it. Had she sold the pub on to someone who could run it without the rudeness then it would have made a lot more money.

I doubt 20 *net* jobs will be created. The Sandacres employed a few people too remember.
[quote][p][bold]giveusthefacts[/bold] wrote: I am surprised the Sandacres lasted as long as it did. I use to frequent it on a regular basis. Unfortunately the landlady would only make an appearance at the end of the evening and became ruder and ruder. The last straw came when she bellowed across the pub that she had told us to drink up,so could we leave. I told her what I thought of her customer skills and did not frequent the place again. It's a shame because it could have been a great venue especially in the summer.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are right. She was the rudest landlady (and actually the owner too as far as I know) on earth and had zero customer-facing skills. Luckily she wasn't there all the time. The Sandacres was not a bad place when she wasn't there serving some decent real ale and cheap food too. Her bad reputation spread and many people just didn't go there because of it. Had she sold the pub on to someone who could run it without the rudeness then it would have made a lot more money. I doubt 20 *net* jobs will be created. The Sandacres employed a few people too remember. Adrian XX

12:37pm Fri 28 Sep 12

dylan0202 says...

giveusthefacts wrote:
I am surprised the Sandacres lasted as long as it did. I use to frequent it on a regular basis. Unfortunately the landlady would only make an appearance at the end of the evening and became ruder and ruder. The last straw came when she bellowed across the pub that she had told us to drink up,so could we leave. I told her what I thought of her customer skills and did not frequent the place again. It's a shame because it could have been a great venue especially in the summer.
ha yes i seem to remember the rather obnoxious landlady - think she was half cut most of the time !!
however real shame about it closing i reckon, hadnt been there in recent times - but i was a good spot and seemed to attract normal people - unlike the false/pretentious/wa
nna be s that you find in Cafe Shore .. oh and the pool tables were fab . why oh why someone feels there is a need for another Tesco's is beyond me ..
[quote][p][bold]giveusthefacts[/bold] wrote: I am surprised the Sandacres lasted as long as it did. I use to frequent it on a regular basis. Unfortunately the landlady would only make an appearance at the end of the evening and became ruder and ruder. The last straw came when she bellowed across the pub that she had told us to drink up,so could we leave. I told her what I thought of her customer skills and did not frequent the place again. It's a shame because it could have been a great venue especially in the summer.[/p][/quote]ha yes i seem to remember the rather obnoxious landlady - think she was half cut most of the time !! however real shame about it closing i reckon, hadnt been there in recent times - but i was a good spot and seemed to attract normal people - unlike the false/pretentious/wa nna be s that you find in Cafe Shore .. oh and the pool tables were fab . why oh why someone feels there is a need for another Tesco's is beyond me .. dylan0202

12:38pm Fri 28 Sep 12

harrythered says...

Pubs, use them or lose them. Don't whinge about it if you don't make the effort. The biggest issue is that pubs can be converted without any need for planning permission - lobby your MP to support the proposed changes to the law that will stop this. And sign CAMRA's e petition (100,000 plus have signed already) that has forced a House of Commons debate re excessive alcohol taxes in pubs and the huge advantage supermarkets etc have in tax treatment on alcohol and food (no VAT) sales compared to pubs.
Pubs, use them or lose them. Don't whinge about it if you don't make the effort. The biggest issue is that pubs can be converted without any need for planning permission - lobby your MP to support the proposed changes to the law that will stop this. And sign CAMRA's e petition (100,000 plus have signed already) that has forced a House of Commons debate re excessive alcohol taxes in pubs and the huge advantage supermarkets etc have in tax treatment on alcohol and food (no VAT) sales compared to pubs. harrythered

12:39pm Fri 28 Sep 12

dylan0202 says...

Justin666 wrote:
Upgrading Sandbanks at last.
i m not sure that by putting a Tesco s in is upgrading anything !! a few grand spent on the nightjar would have made a vast difference tho i admit
[quote][p][bold]Justin666[/bold] wrote: Upgrading Sandbanks at last.[/p][/quote]i m not sure that by putting a Tesco s in is upgrading anything !! a few grand spent on the nightjar would have made a vast difference tho i admit dylan0202

12:41pm Fri 28 Sep 12

dylan0202 says...

*sandacres
*sandacres dylan0202

12:48pm Fri 28 Sep 12

bosco1 says...

Have to admit not been in the Pub as bit to far to travel.But reading the remarks from others and why couldent they sell it as a going concern keep it as a pub just rid of the rude landlady.?!! Many people including myself have transformed a business into a "gold MIne" so I ask why did Tesco get 1st choice.A wetherspoons takeover would have made a killing from day one.!! Very sad to see another Pub gone..
Have to admit not been in the Pub as bit to far to travel.But reading the remarks from others and why couldent they sell it as a going concern keep it as a pub just rid of the rude landlady.?!! Many people including myself have transformed a business into a "gold MIne" so I ask why did Tesco get 1st choice.A wetherspoons takeover would have made a killing from day one.!! Very sad to see another Pub gone.. bosco1

12:51pm Fri 28 Sep 12

rockstar03 says...

Another example of the "not in my back yard" culture of the pretentious areas surrounding Poole and Bournemouth. See the local residents association have stuck their noses in... Don't worry I'm sure we can all wipe our feet as we leave the store..don't want to soil your holy peninsular .....anyone know how KFC are getting on with the drive through in the upper class Ferndown district? Have the residents association won the day there?
Another example of the "not in my back yard" culture of the pretentious areas surrounding Poole and Bournemouth. See the local residents association have stuck their noses in... Don't worry I'm sure we can all wipe our feet as we leave the store..don't want to soil your holy peninsular .....anyone know how KFC are getting on with the drive through in the upper class Ferndown district? Have the residents association won the day there? rockstar03

12:52pm Fri 28 Sep 12

the boxer says...

chiefwolf2 wrote:
blame the public who didn't use the pub.... and blame the public for using stores like this... they wouldn't build them if people didn't use them.... It is society and the consumerism culture that we have to blame for these stores popping up everywhere.......
It was not the publics fault the pub failed, it was clearly the landlady and her “side-kick” who made no effort at all with the place. They were so rude and hostile to the customers, its no surprise most never returned. It strangely got busy when the “side-kick” left, but the damage had been done. The apathy they showed was extraordinary. It goes to show when you have an empty pub overlooking the harbour. They missed so many opportunities such as baby change and high chairs to encourage families, they could have done pizza take outs, no end of things. They deserved to fail.
[quote][p][bold]chiefwolf2[/bold] wrote: blame the public who didn't use the pub.... and blame the public for using stores like this... they wouldn't build them if people didn't use them.... It is society and the consumerism culture that we have to blame for these stores popping up everywhere.......[/p][/quote]It was not the publics fault the pub failed, it was clearly the landlady and her “side-kick” who made no effort at all with the place. They were so rude and hostile to the customers, its no surprise most never returned. It strangely got busy when the “side-kick” left, but the damage had been done. The apathy they showed was extraordinary. It goes to show when you have an empty pub overlooking the harbour. They missed so many opportunities such as baby change and high chairs to encourage families, they could have done pizza take outs, no end of things. They deserved to fail. the boxer

12:55pm Fri 28 Sep 12

B.F.G says...

Pete Faye stacking shelves, I'd pay to see that!
Pete Faye stacking shelves, I'd pay to see that! B.F.G

12:55pm Fri 28 Sep 12

harrythered says...

rockstar03 wrote:
Another example of the "not in my back yard" culture of the pretentious areas surrounding Poole and Bournemouth. See the local residents association have stuck their noses in... Don't worry I'm sure we can all wipe our feet as we leave the store..don't want to soil your holy peninsular .....anyone know how KFC are getting on with the drive through in the upper class Ferndown district? Have the residents association won the day there?
Ferndown - upper class? Nearly choked on me beer with laughter. Anyway KFC got planning for everything they wanted apart from a Col Sanders mega sign. How many take aways is that now - must be about 10.
[quote][p][bold]rockstar03[/bold] wrote: Another example of the "not in my back yard" culture of the pretentious areas surrounding Poole and Bournemouth. See the local residents association have stuck their noses in... Don't worry I'm sure we can all wipe our feet as we leave the store..don't want to soil your holy peninsular .....anyone know how KFC are getting on with the drive through in the upper class Ferndown district? Have the residents association won the day there?[/p][/quote]Ferndown - upper class? Nearly choked on me beer with laughter. Anyway KFC got planning for everything they wanted apart from a Col Sanders mega sign. How many take aways is that now - must be about 10. harrythered

12:56pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Adrian XX says...

harrythered wrote:
Pubs, use them or lose them. Don't whinge about it if you don't make the effort. The biggest issue is that pubs can be converted without any need for planning permission - lobby your MP to support the proposed changes to the law that will stop this. And sign CAMRA's e petition (100,000 plus have signed already) that has forced a House of Commons debate re excessive alcohol taxes in pubs and the huge advantage supermarkets etc have in tax treatment on alcohol and food (no VAT) sales compared to pubs.
It isn't true that supermarkets have a tax advantage on beer. Beer duty is payable by the breweries at the point of production: according to HMRC "beer is produced when the earliest of any of the following events takes place: The time when:"

the beer is put into any package
beer is removed from the brewery
beer is consumed
the beer is lost
beer reaches that state of maturity at which it is fit for consumption

VAT is payable by both pubs and supermarkets on beer.

The advantage the supermarkets have is that they don't have to provide space for you to sit and drink the beer!
[quote][p][bold]harrythered[/bold] wrote: Pubs, use them or lose them. Don't whinge about it if you don't make the effort. The biggest issue is that pubs can be converted without any need for planning permission - lobby your MP to support the proposed changes to the law that will stop this. And sign CAMRA's e petition (100,000 plus have signed already) that has forced a House of Commons debate re excessive alcohol taxes in pubs and the huge advantage supermarkets etc have in tax treatment on alcohol and food (no VAT) sales compared to pubs.[/p][/quote]It isn't true that supermarkets have a tax advantage on beer. Beer duty is payable by the breweries at the point of production: according to HMRC "beer is produced when the earliest of any of the following events takes place: The time when:" the beer is put into any package beer is removed from the brewery beer is consumed the beer is lost beer reaches that state of maturity at which it is fit for consumption VAT is payable by both pubs and supermarkets on beer. The advantage the supermarkets have is that they don't have to provide space for you to sit and drink the beer! Adrian XX

12:57pm Fri 28 Sep 12

jobsworthwatch says...

A Wetherspoons that incorporates a Tesco express would be a real winner!
A Wetherspoons that incorporates a Tesco express would be a real winner! jobsworthwatch

1:00pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Adrian XX says...

rockstar03 wrote:
Another example of the "not in my back yard" culture of the pretentious areas surrounding Poole and Bournemouth. See the local residents association have stuck their noses in... Don't worry I'm sure we can all wipe our feet as we leave the store..don't want to soil your holy peninsular .....anyone know how KFC are getting on with the drive through in the upper class Ferndown district? Have the residents association won the day there?
I doubt that's really the case. The Sandacres was no more upmarket than a Tesco Express. I think they are complaining about the loss of a reasonable place to have a drink. No one would mind much if the little shop by the ferry became a Tesco express: it would be open longer hours and sell a bigger, cheaper range.
[quote][p][bold]rockstar03[/bold] wrote: Another example of the "not in my back yard" culture of the pretentious areas surrounding Poole and Bournemouth. See the local residents association have stuck their noses in... Don't worry I'm sure we can all wipe our feet as we leave the store..don't want to soil your holy peninsular .....anyone know how KFC are getting on with the drive through in the upper class Ferndown district? Have the residents association won the day there?[/p][/quote]I doubt that's really the case. The Sandacres was no more upmarket than a Tesco Express. I think they are complaining about the loss of a reasonable place to have a drink. No one would mind much if the little shop by the ferry became a Tesco express: it would be open longer hours and sell a bigger, cheaper range. Adrian XX

1:04pm Fri 28 Sep 12

harrythered says...

Adrian XX wrote:
harrythered wrote:
Pubs, use them or lose them. Don't whinge about it if you don't make the effort. The biggest issue is that pubs can be converted without any need for planning permission - lobby your MP to support the proposed changes to the law that will stop this. And sign CAMRA's e petition (100,000 plus have signed already) that has forced a House of Commons debate re excessive alcohol taxes in pubs and the huge advantage supermarkets etc have in tax treatment on alcohol and food (no VAT) sales compared to pubs.
It isn't true that supermarkets have a tax advantage on beer. Beer duty is payable by the breweries at the point of production: according to HMRC "beer is produced when the earliest of any of the following events takes place: The time when:"

the beer is put into any package
beer is removed from the brewery
beer is consumed
the beer is lost
beer reaches that state of maturity at which it is fit for consumption

VAT is payable by both pubs and supermarkets on beer.

The advantage the supermarkets have is that they don't have to provide space for you to sit and drink the beer!
Yes they do have an advantage on tax on beer because they buy at big discounts from brewers then sell at cost price or less as a loss leader to get customers in and buy other products. As a result they pay far less VAT on the final price of the beer they sell. A pint of Fosters in a pub costs £3.50 and VAT is approx 70p a pint. In a supermarket you can buy 6 cans (almost 6 pints) of Fosters for about £6 - VAT on that is about 20p a pint. That is 50p a pint difference in VAT.
[quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harrythered[/bold] wrote: Pubs, use them or lose them. Don't whinge about it if you don't make the effort. The biggest issue is that pubs can be converted without any need for planning permission - lobby your MP to support the proposed changes to the law that will stop this. And sign CAMRA's e petition (100,000 plus have signed already) that has forced a House of Commons debate re excessive alcohol taxes in pubs and the huge advantage supermarkets etc have in tax treatment on alcohol and food (no VAT) sales compared to pubs.[/p][/quote]It isn't true that supermarkets have a tax advantage on beer. Beer duty is payable by the breweries at the point of production: according to HMRC "beer is produced when the earliest of any of the following events takes place: The time when:" the beer is put into any package beer is removed from the brewery beer is consumed the beer is lost beer reaches that state of maturity at which it is fit for consumption VAT is payable by both pubs and supermarkets on beer. The advantage the supermarkets have is that they don't have to provide space for you to sit and drink the beer![/p][/quote]Yes they do have an advantage on tax on beer because they buy at big discounts from brewers then sell at cost price or less as a loss leader to get customers in and buy other products. As a result they pay far less VAT on the final price of the beer they sell. A pint of Fosters in a pub costs £3.50 and VAT is approx 70p a pint. In a supermarket you can buy 6 cans (almost 6 pints) of Fosters for about £6 - VAT on that is about 20p a pint. That is 50p a pint difference in VAT. harrythered

1:10pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Humf says...

Adrian XX wrote:
rockstar03 wrote:
Another example of the "not in my back yard" culture of the pretentious areas surrounding Poole and Bournemouth. See the local residents association have stuck their noses in... Don't worry I'm sure we can all wipe our feet as we leave the store..don't want to soil your holy peninsular .....anyone know how KFC are getting on with the drive through in the upper class Ferndown district? Have the residents association won the day there?
I doubt that's really the case. The Sandacres was no more upmarket than a Tesco Express. I think they are complaining about the loss of a reasonable place to have a drink. No one would mind much if the little shop by the ferry became a Tesco express: it would be open longer hours and sell a bigger, cheaper range.
That's a very valid comment, i'd say it's only a matter of time before the Haven Stores get an offer they can't refuse from Tescos.

Just around the corner from Harry's house, he'll be delighted. Notepaper, pencils and red bull to help with those troublesome and time-consuming tax returns !
[quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rockstar03[/bold] wrote: Another example of the "not in my back yard" culture of the pretentious areas surrounding Poole and Bournemouth. See the local residents association have stuck their noses in... Don't worry I'm sure we can all wipe our feet as we leave the store..don't want to soil your holy peninsular .....anyone know how KFC are getting on with the drive through in the upper class Ferndown district? Have the residents association won the day there?[/p][/quote]I doubt that's really the case. The Sandacres was no more upmarket than a Tesco Express. I think they are complaining about the loss of a reasonable place to have a drink. No one would mind much if the little shop by the ferry became a Tesco express: it would be open longer hours and sell a bigger, cheaper range.[/p][/quote]That's a very valid comment, i'd say it's only a matter of time before the Haven Stores get an offer they can't refuse from Tescos. Just around the corner from Harry's house, he'll be delighted. Notepaper, pencils and red bull to help with those troublesome and time-consuming tax returns ! Humf

1:12pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Adrian XX says...

harrythered wrote:
Adrian XX wrote:
harrythered wrote:
Pubs, use them or lose them. Don't whinge about it if you don't make the effort. The biggest issue is that pubs can be converted without any need for planning permission - lobby your MP to support the proposed changes to the law that will stop this. And sign CAMRA's e petition (100,000 plus have signed already) that has forced a House of Commons debate re excessive alcohol taxes in pubs and the huge advantage supermarkets etc have in tax treatment on alcohol and food (no VAT) sales compared to pubs.
It isn't true that supermarkets have a tax advantage on beer. Beer duty is payable by the breweries at the point of production: according to HMRC "beer is produced when the earliest of any of the following events takes place: The time when:"

the beer is put into any package
beer is removed from the brewery
beer is consumed
the beer is lost
beer reaches that state of maturity at which it is fit for consumption

VAT is payable by both pubs and supermarkets on beer.

The advantage the supermarkets have is that they don't have to provide space for you to sit and drink the beer!
Yes they do have an advantage on tax on beer because they buy at big discounts from brewers then sell at cost price or less as a loss leader to get customers in and buy other products. As a result they pay far less VAT on the final price of the beer they sell. A pint of Fosters in a pub costs £3.50 and VAT is approx 70p a pint. In a supermarket you can buy 6 cans (almost 6 pints) of Fosters for about £6 - VAT on that is about 20p a pint. That is 50p a pint difference in VAT.
OK, I see your point. But it's stretching the meaning of "tax-advantage". Any organisation that has greater overheads has to charge more and will therefore need to charge more VAT. For example, a buffet restaurant will be able to sell food for less than a restaurant with full table service, but I don't think you could say it has a tax advantage. Nor can you expect the government to implement lower tax rates for certain types of outlet.
[quote][p][bold]harrythered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harrythered[/bold] wrote: Pubs, use them or lose them. Don't whinge about it if you don't make the effort. The biggest issue is that pubs can be converted without any need for planning permission - lobby your MP to support the proposed changes to the law that will stop this. And sign CAMRA's e petition (100,000 plus have signed already) that has forced a House of Commons debate re excessive alcohol taxes in pubs and the huge advantage supermarkets etc have in tax treatment on alcohol and food (no VAT) sales compared to pubs.[/p][/quote]It isn't true that supermarkets have a tax advantage on beer. Beer duty is payable by the breweries at the point of production: according to HMRC "beer is produced when the earliest of any of the following events takes place: The time when:" the beer is put into any package beer is removed from the brewery beer is consumed the beer is lost beer reaches that state of maturity at which it is fit for consumption VAT is payable by both pubs and supermarkets on beer. The advantage the supermarkets have is that they don't have to provide space for you to sit and drink the beer![/p][/quote]Yes they do have an advantage on tax on beer because they buy at big discounts from brewers then sell at cost price or less as a loss leader to get customers in and buy other products. As a result they pay far less VAT on the final price of the beer they sell. A pint of Fosters in a pub costs £3.50 and VAT is approx 70p a pint. In a supermarket you can buy 6 cans (almost 6 pints) of Fosters for about £6 - VAT on that is about 20p a pint. That is 50p a pint difference in VAT.[/p][/quote]OK, I see your point. But it's stretching the meaning of "tax-advantage". Any organisation that has greater overheads has to charge more and will therefore need to charge more VAT. For example, a buffet restaurant will be able to sell food for less than a restaurant with full table service, but I don't think you could say it has a tax advantage. Nor can you expect the government to implement lower tax rates for certain types of outlet. Adrian XX

1:17pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Percy Tatlock says...

boblister wrote:
With a Tesco Express less than a mile away at Lilliput did we really need another shop!!

It was bad enough losing the Beehive Pub at Lilliput, for an old peoples dwelling.

This is the last straw, it is an appalling decision. What about the new Localism Act don't we have a say??
There isn't any public houses or bars from the civic centre till the roundabout at Sandbanks. Localism, stock up at the local convenience store and entertain at home more like. Or pay the subs to join a yachting club or maybe one of hotels may let non patrons in for a drink. There seems to be something missing, community not convenience.
[quote][p][bold]boblister[/bold] wrote: With a Tesco Express less than a mile away at Lilliput did we really need another shop!! It was bad enough losing the Beehive Pub at Lilliput, for an old peoples dwelling. This is the last straw, it is an appalling decision. What about the new Localism Act don't we have a say??[/p][/quote]There isn't any public houses or bars from the civic centre till the roundabout at Sandbanks. Localism, stock up at the local convenience store and entertain at home more like. Or pay the subs to join a yachting club or maybe one of hotels may let non patrons in for a drink. There seems to be something missing, community not convenience. Percy Tatlock

1:19pm Fri 28 Sep 12

BmthNewshound says...

“Most of our customers walk,” ..... just shows how Tesco clearly don't know their customers. People in Sandbanks walk to the shop, you must be joking.
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The shop will probably do well in summer with people stocking up on snacks and drinks before heading for the beach, considerably cheaper than the expensive beachside outlets.
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“Most of our customers walk,” ..... just shows how Tesco clearly don't know their customers. People in Sandbanks walk to the shop, you must be joking. . The shop will probably do well in summer with people stocking up on snacks and drinks before heading for the beach, considerably cheaper than the expensive beachside outlets. . BmthNewshound

1:22pm Fri 28 Sep 12

harrythered says...

Adrian XX wrote:
harrythered wrote:
Adrian XX wrote:
harrythered wrote:
Pubs, use them or lose them. Don't whinge about it if you don't make the effort. The biggest issue is that pubs can be converted without any need for planning permission - lobby your MP to support the proposed changes to the law that will stop this. And sign CAMRA's e petition (100,000 plus have signed already) that has forced a House of Commons debate re excessive alcohol taxes in pubs and the huge advantage supermarkets etc have in tax treatment on alcohol and food (no VAT) sales compared to pubs.
It isn't true that supermarkets have a tax advantage on beer. Beer duty is payable by the breweries at the point of production: according to HMRC "beer is produced when the earliest of any of the following events takes place: The time when:"

the beer is put into any package
beer is removed from the brewery
beer is consumed
the beer is lost
beer reaches that state of maturity at which it is fit for consumption

VAT is payable by both pubs and supermarkets on beer.

The advantage the supermarkets have is that they don't have to provide space for you to sit and drink the beer!
Yes they do have an advantage on tax on beer because they buy at big discounts from brewers then sell at cost price or less as a loss leader to get customers in and buy other products. As a result they pay far less VAT on the final price of the beer they sell. A pint of Fosters in a pub costs £3.50 and VAT is approx 70p a pint. In a supermarket you can buy 6 cans (almost 6 pints) of Fosters for about £6 - VAT on that is about 20p a pint. That is 50p a pint difference in VAT.
OK, I see your point. But it's stretching the meaning of "tax-advantage". Any organisation that has greater overheads has to charge more and will therefore need to charge more VAT. For example, a buffet restaurant will be able to sell food for less than a restaurant with full table service, but I don't think you could say it has a tax advantage. Nor can you expect the government to implement lower tax rates for certain types of outlet.
Many European countries impose lower rates of VAT (5% in some cases) on sales in bars and cafes compared to supermarket/off sale outlets. Our country has the highest rate of beer tax (excise duty and VAT) in Europe and has an escalator tax rise built in every year of 2.5% above inflation - it's killing the pub trade and the supermarkets love it. They can pile it high, sell it cheap and have none of the associated costs of running pubs or dealing with drink or pub laws. How many people get loaded up with cheap booze from Tescos before going out. It's just a crazy one sided business.
[quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harrythered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harrythered[/bold] wrote: Pubs, use them or lose them. Don't whinge about it if you don't make the effort. The biggest issue is that pubs can be converted without any need for planning permission - lobby your MP to support the proposed changes to the law that will stop this. And sign CAMRA's e petition (100,000 plus have signed already) that has forced a House of Commons debate re excessive alcohol taxes in pubs and the huge advantage supermarkets etc have in tax treatment on alcohol and food (no VAT) sales compared to pubs.[/p][/quote]It isn't true that supermarkets have a tax advantage on beer. Beer duty is payable by the breweries at the point of production: according to HMRC "beer is produced when the earliest of any of the following events takes place: The time when:" the beer is put into any package beer is removed from the brewery beer is consumed the beer is lost beer reaches that state of maturity at which it is fit for consumption VAT is payable by both pubs and supermarkets on beer. The advantage the supermarkets have is that they don't have to provide space for you to sit and drink the beer![/p][/quote]Yes they do have an advantage on tax on beer because they buy at big discounts from brewers then sell at cost price or less as a loss leader to get customers in and buy other products. As a result they pay far less VAT on the final price of the beer they sell. A pint of Fosters in a pub costs £3.50 and VAT is approx 70p a pint. In a supermarket you can buy 6 cans (almost 6 pints) of Fosters for about £6 - VAT on that is about 20p a pint. That is 50p a pint difference in VAT.[/p][/quote]OK, I see your point. But it's stretching the meaning of "tax-advantage". Any organisation that has greater overheads has to charge more and will therefore need to charge more VAT. For example, a buffet restaurant will be able to sell food for less than a restaurant with full table service, but I don't think you could say it has a tax advantage. Nor can you expect the government to implement lower tax rates for certain types of outlet.[/p][/quote]Many European countries impose lower rates of VAT (5% in some cases) on sales in bars and cafes compared to supermarket/off sale outlets. Our country has the highest rate of beer tax (excise duty and VAT) in Europe and has an escalator tax rise built in every year of 2.5% above inflation - it's killing the pub trade and the supermarkets love it. They can pile it high, sell it cheap and have none of the associated costs of running pubs or dealing with drink or pub laws. How many people get loaded up with cheap booze from Tescos before going out. It's just a crazy one sided business. harrythered

1:34pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Adrian XX says...

Many European countries impose lower rates of VAT (5% in some cases) on sales in bars and cafes compared to supermarket/off sale outlets. Our country has the highest rate of beer tax (excise duty and VAT) in Europe and has an escalator tax rise built in every year of 2.5% above inflation - it's killing the pub trade and the supermarkets love it. They can pile it high, sell it cheap and have none of the associated costs of running pubs or dealing with drink or pub laws. How many people get loaded up with cheap booze from Tescos before going out. It's just a crazy one sided business.

I hadn't realised that some EU countries had dropped VAT rates for pubs. I guess you are talking about this: http://on.ft.com/NV1
nMs

I am not sure I would like to see this for the whole industry. Do we really want McDonalds paying less VAT? (and therefore the government needing to raise other taxes to compensate?). I think this could be applied to SMEs only.
[quote]Many European countries impose lower rates of VAT (5% in some cases) on sales in bars and cafes compared to supermarket/off sale outlets. Our country has the highest rate of beer tax (excise duty and VAT) in Europe and has an escalator tax rise built in every year of 2.5% above inflation - it's killing the pub trade and the supermarkets love it. They can pile it high, sell it cheap and have none of the associated costs of running pubs or dealing with drink or pub laws. How many people get loaded up with cheap booze from Tescos before going out. It's just a crazy one sided business.[/quote] I hadn't realised that some EU countries had dropped VAT rates for pubs. I guess you are talking about this: http://on.ft.com/NV1 nMs I am not sure I would like to see this for the whole industry. Do we really want McDonalds paying less VAT? (and therefore the government needing to raise other taxes to compensate?). I think this could be applied to SMEs only. Adrian XX

1:40pm Fri 28 Sep 12

BarrHumbug says...

I bet there wouldn't be this commotion if it was a Waitrose Express?

The pub could have done so much better if it had been managed properly and had some money spent on it, look at the Jazz Cafe round the corner, the place is packed all the time?
I bet there wouldn't be this commotion if it was a Waitrose Express? The pub could have done so much better if it had been managed properly and had some money spent on it, look at the Jazz Cafe round the corner, the place is packed all the time? BarrHumbug

1:45pm Fri 28 Sep 12

harrythered says...

Adrian XX wrote:
Many European countries impose lower rates of VAT (5% in some cases) on sales in bars and cafes compared to supermarket/off sale outlets. Our country has the highest rate of beer tax (excise duty and VAT) in Europe and has an escalator tax rise built in every year of 2.5% above inflation - it's killing the pub trade and the supermarkets love it. They can pile it high, sell it cheap and have none of the associated costs of running pubs or dealing with drink or pub laws. How many people get loaded up with cheap booze from Tescos before going out. It's just a crazy one sided business.

I hadn't realised that some EU countries had dropped VAT rates for pubs. I guess you are talking about this: http://on.ft.com/NV1

nMs

I am not sure I would like to see this for the whole industry. Do we really want McDonalds paying less VAT? (and therefore the government needing to raise other taxes to compensate?). I think this could be applied to SMEs only.
I think its about paying whats fair. I read that wetherspoons total tax bill is £500 million a year, or £13,000 per pub per week. That is a huge sum for a business of that size and equates to 45% of the cost of a pint in their pubs (figs courtesy of Tim Martin their chairman). I don't know what the answer is to address the inequality but it sure isn't taxing the pub and restaurant industry to death. After all that I think I need a pint (at the pub of course!!)
[quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote]Many European countries impose lower rates of VAT (5% in some cases) on sales in bars and cafes compared to supermarket/off sale outlets. Our country has the highest rate of beer tax (excise duty and VAT) in Europe and has an escalator tax rise built in every year of 2.5% above inflation - it's killing the pub trade and the supermarkets love it. They can pile it high, sell it cheap and have none of the associated costs of running pubs or dealing with drink or pub laws. How many people get loaded up with cheap booze from Tescos before going out. It's just a crazy one sided business.[/quote] I hadn't realised that some EU countries had dropped VAT rates for pubs. I guess you are talking about this: http://on.ft.com/NV1 nMs I am not sure I would like to see this for the whole industry. Do we really want McDonalds paying less VAT? (and therefore the government needing to raise other taxes to compensate?). I think this could be applied to SMEs only.[/p][/quote]I think its about paying whats fair. I read that wetherspoons total tax bill is £500 million a year, or £13,000 per pub per week. That is a huge sum for a business of that size and equates to 45% of the cost of a pint in their pubs (figs courtesy of Tim Martin their chairman). I don't know what the answer is to address the inequality but it sure isn't taxing the pub and restaurant industry to death. After all that I think I need a pint (at the pub of course!!) harrythered

1:57pm Fri 28 Sep 12

The Liberal says...

The Sandacres was a horrible eyesore, though, wasn't it? Why on earth didn't they do the place up and go upmarket?
The Sandacres was a horrible eyesore, though, wasn't it? Why on earth didn't they do the place up and go upmarket? The Liberal

2:14pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Humf says...

The Liberal wrote:
The Sandacres was a horrible eyesore, though, wasn't it? Why on earth didn't they do the place up and go upmarket?
Yes, in agreement there and needed something doing with it.

Missed opportunity perhaps, Cafe Shore does very well and overlooks a car park and a pedestrian crossing - Sandacres overlooks the harbour and faces west so perhaps could have been just as successful. Not a very pretty buidlding in general though.
[quote][p][bold]The Liberal[/bold] wrote: The Sandacres was a horrible eyesore, though, wasn't it? Why on earth didn't they do the place up and go upmarket?[/p][/quote]Yes, in agreement there and needed something doing with it. Missed opportunity perhaps, Cafe Shore does very well and overlooks a car park and a pedestrian crossing - Sandacres overlooks the harbour and faces west so perhaps could have been just as successful. Not a very pretty buidlding in general though. Humf

2:50pm Fri 28 Sep 12

arthur1948 says...

Perhaps Sanbanks is going down market..May knock a few pounds off property values
Perhaps Sanbanks is going down market..May knock a few pounds off property values arthur1948

2:51pm Fri 28 Sep 12

cyberdemon says...

I think a better idea would've been to add a lick of paint and turn it into a chilled out bar with a better outside area for kitesurfers and windsurfers to sit in. All the watersports schools would bring clients there and it's right opposite the main launching beach.
I think a better idea would've been to add a lick of paint and turn it into a chilled out bar with a better outside area for kitesurfers and windsurfers to sit in. All the watersports schools would bring clients there and it's right opposite the main launching beach. cyberdemon

2:51pm Fri 28 Sep 12

rugby_dave says...

B.F.G wrote:
Pete Faye stacking shelves, I'd pay to see that!
know that would be funny!! shame hes got a new managers job elsewhere :(
[quote][p][bold]B.F.G[/bold] wrote: Pete Faye stacking shelves, I'd pay to see that![/p][/quote]know that would be funny!! shame hes got a new managers job elsewhere :( rugby_dave

2:52pm Fri 28 Sep 12

catseye says...

personally I am looking forward to sitting on the beach knocking back cheap beer. I will be able to show my grand children how to make castles out of empty cans-when I have picked the broken glass out of their feet of course
personally I am looking forward to sitting on the beach knocking back cheap beer. I will be able to show my grand children how to make castles out of empty cans-when I have picked the broken glass out of their feet of course catseye

2:54pm Fri 28 Sep 12

boyerboy says...

Fred Sinclair will be turning in his grave.........I used to love the place but like all the old local pubs it has had its day and is tacky now.......we could do with a nice pub though - since the " Cliffs" opened , I do not feel we have a pub to call home.
Fred Sinclair will be turning in his grave.........I used to love the place but like all the old local pubs it has had its day and is tacky now.......we could do with a nice pub though - since the " Cliffs" opened , I do not feel we have a pub to call home. boyerboy

3:49pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Adrian XX says...

cyberdemon wrote:
I think a better idea would've been to add a lick of paint and turn it into a chilled out bar with a better outside area for kitesurfers and windsurfers to sit in. All the watersports schools would bring clients there and it's right opposite the main launching beach.
That's what happened anyway. How would you make it more chilled out? (Apart from by changing the staff).
[quote][p][bold]cyberdemon[/bold] wrote: I think a better idea would've been to add a lick of paint and turn it into a chilled out bar with a better outside area for kitesurfers and windsurfers to sit in. All the watersports schools would bring clients there and it's right opposite the main launching beach.[/p][/quote]That's what happened anyway. How would you make it more chilled out? (Apart from by changing the staff). Adrian XX

3:53pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Adrian XX says...

boyerboy wrote:
Fred Sinclair will be turning in his grave.........I used to love the place but like all the old local pubs it has had its day and is tacky now.......we could do with a nice pub though - since the " Cliffs" opened , I do not feel we have a pub to call home.
Agreed. There isn't much money to be made from real pubs any more sadly. Packed, noisy places selling only big brands is where the cash is.

The Inn in the Park and the Beehive are "half-acceptable", though the quality of the food at both establishments is low, and the beer isn't up to much either. I guess they make their money from the guest rooms.
[quote][p][bold]boyerboy[/bold] wrote: Fred Sinclair will be turning in his grave.........I used to love the place but like all the old local pubs it has had its day and is tacky now.......we could do with a nice pub though - since the " Cliffs" opened , I do not feel we have a pub to call home.[/p][/quote]Agreed. There isn't much money to be made from real pubs any more sadly. Packed, noisy places selling only big brands is where the cash is. The Inn in the Park and the Beehive are "half-acceptable", though the quality of the food at both establishments is low, and the beer isn't up to much either. I guess they make their money from the guest rooms. Adrian XX

4:34pm Fri 28 Sep 12

cyberdemon says...

Adrian XX wrote:
cyberdemon wrote:
I think a better idea would've been to add a lick of paint and turn it into a chilled out bar with a better outside area for kitesurfers and windsurfers to sit in. All the watersports schools would bring clients there and it's right opposite the main launching beach.
That's what happened anyway. How would you make it more chilled out? (Apart from by changing the staff).
Put more tables outside and have table service. Think apres ski bar. That way you can sit down in your wetsuit.

More ambitiously, change the windows for big opening doors, and maybe add some tv's inside playing videos of watersports.
[quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cyberdemon[/bold] wrote: I think a better idea would've been to add a lick of paint and turn it into a chilled out bar with a better outside area for kitesurfers and windsurfers to sit in. All the watersports schools would bring clients there and it's right opposite the main launching beach.[/p][/quote]That's what happened anyway. How would you make it more chilled out? (Apart from by changing the staff).[/p][/quote]Put more tables outside and have table service. Think apres ski bar. That way you can sit down in your wetsuit. More ambitiously, change the windows for big opening doors, and maybe add some tv's inside playing videos of watersports. cyberdemon

4:45pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Adrian XX says...

Put more tables outside and have table service. Think apres ski bar. That way you can sit down in your wetsuit.

More ambitiously, change the windows for big opening doors, and maybe add some tv's inside playing videos of watersports.

Service at tables outside (and inside) would definitely have improved. Changing the windows for doors would have taken quite a long time to pay back.

TV screens playing watersports would have to have been introduced very carefully: they would alienate those people who don't like watersports, so putting them on at the right time of day would have been essential. I remember the experiment they tried with live bands at the Sandacres. People who liked live music turned up, but some of the regulars who didn't like it stayed away. The result: no net gain.
[quote]Put more tables outside and have table service. Think apres ski bar. That way you can sit down in your wetsuit. More ambitiously, change the windows for big opening doors, and maybe add some tv's inside playing videos of watersports. [/quote] Service at tables outside (and inside) would definitely have improved. Changing the windows for doors would have taken quite a long time to pay back. TV screens playing watersports would have to have been introduced very carefully: they would alienate those people who don't like watersports, so putting them on at the right time of day would have been essential. I remember the experiment they tried with live bands at the Sandacres. People who liked live music turned up, but some of the regulars who didn't like it stayed away. The result: no net gain. Adrian XX

5:41pm Fri 28 Sep 12

grazzer says...

to say that the people of sandbanks don't want a Tesco because it is not upmarket enough is nonsense as there was just as big an outcry over the wallisdown one which is hardly an upmarket area..The main problem is the loss of an amenity.l spent over 40 years running pubs in the Poole and Bournemouth area and .given half a chance would have come out of retirement to turn the
sandacres into an absolute goldmine
Graham Cribb
to say that the people of sandbanks don't want a Tesco because it is not upmarket enough is nonsense as there was just as big an outcry over the wallisdown one which is hardly an upmarket area..The main problem is the loss of an amenity.l spent over 40 years running pubs in the Poole and Bournemouth area and .given half a chance would have come out of retirement to turn the sandacres into an absolute goldmine Graham Cribb grazzer

5:54pm Fri 28 Sep 12

manyogie says...

FFS
Its a shop whats more acceptable, a derilict site, or a business?
FFS Its a shop whats more acceptable, a derilict site, or a business? manyogie

6:12pm Fri 28 Sep 12

madras says...

Melanie Chiswell, the community liaison manager for Tesco said: “It’s a local shop for local people.”

What, as in the league of gentlemen? -
Don't touch the things! This is a local shop for local people, there's nothing for you here!
Melanie Chiswell, the community liaison manager for Tesco said: “It’s a local shop for local people.” What, as in the league of gentlemen? - Don't touch the things! This is a local shop for local people, there's nothing for you here! madras

6:42pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Was Charlie says...

We must be reaching saturation point when it comes to food outlets. There's a finite number of customers so they must just be spreading themselves round more and more stores without generating more profit. Unless, of course, Tesco is hoping people will abandon other names to make turning this country into Tescoland a little easier.
......
Personally, because of previous unpleasant personal experiences of what they sell, I'd rather starve than shop at Tesco.
We must be reaching saturation point when it comes to food outlets. There's a finite number of customers so they must just be spreading themselves round more and more stores without generating more profit. Unless, of course, Tesco is hoping people will abandon other names to make turning this country into Tescoland a little easier. ...... Personally, because of previous unpleasant personal experiences of what they sell, I'd rather starve than shop at Tesco. Was Charlie

6:52pm Fri 28 Sep 12

pete woodley says...

Dibbles2 wrote:
“In my experience lots of people welcome Tesco Express stores because they regenerate buildings no longer in use, such as closed down pubs. “Most of our customers walk,” said Ms Chiswell."

Wake up Ms Chiswell! You seriously need to go and visit the Wallisdown Tesco express! Which incidentally needs a better quality of staff and freezers that work! You put parking spaces backing onto a bus stop! I sincerely hope that the first person that gets hurt there sues Tesco express.
You are right about the stupidy of parking
[quote][p][bold]Dibbles2[/bold] wrote: “In my experience lots of people welcome Tesco Express stores because they regenerate buildings no longer in use, such as closed down pubs. “Most of our customers walk,” said Ms Chiswell." Wake up Ms Chiswell! You seriously need to go and visit the Wallisdown Tesco express! Which incidentally needs a better quality of staff and freezers that work! You put parking spaces backing onto a bus stop! I sincerely hope that the first person that gets hurt there sues Tesco express.[/p][/quote]You are right about the stupidy of parking pete woodley

7:05pm Fri 28 Sep 12

lilliputian says...

Brit76 wrote:
Mr Sansom, Chairman of Sandbanks Association, please don't give the potential for traffic issues (negligible) as the reason for your concern. The real reason for your disapproval is down to snobbery and the fact that a Tesco store is not up market enough for the folk of Sandbanks.
A crass comment, stemming from ignorance of the traffic nightmares caused by long queues of traffic building up along Shore Road during the summer months. Now we are to expect regular thrice daily visits from articulated lorries making deliveries, not to mention cars attempting to exit from the shop car park into the traffic queue. If you want to see the sort of problems encountered look no further than a mile up the road to the Tesco 'artics', who routinely ignore the traffic restrictions on loading and unloading in Lilliput.
[quote][p][bold]Brit76[/bold] wrote: Mr Sansom, Chairman of Sandbanks Association, please don't give the potential for traffic issues (negligible) as the reason for your concern. The real reason for your disapproval is down to snobbery and the fact that a Tesco store is not up market enough for the folk of Sandbanks.[/p][/quote]A crass comment, stemming from ignorance of the traffic nightmares caused by long queues of traffic building up along Shore Road during the summer months. Now we are to expect regular thrice daily visits from articulated lorries making deliveries, not to mention cars attempting to exit from the shop car park into the traffic queue. If you want to see the sort of problems encountered look no further than a mile up the road to the Tesco 'artics', who routinely ignore the traffic restrictions on loading and unloading in Lilliput. lilliputian

7:46pm Fri 28 Sep 12

penhale says...

Couchy125 wrote:
Wardy72 wrote:
Absolutely appalling. Whoever let that happen needs there head examining. How many Tesco stores do we need in the same vicinity? Just goes to show greed is the only agenda for the councils in this area.
Oh for gods sake have a wash. I would have chosen ALDI myself.
Lidl would have been better I feel.
[quote][p][bold]Couchy125[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wardy72[/bold] wrote: Absolutely appalling. Whoever let that happen needs there head examining. How many Tesco stores do we need in the same vicinity? Just goes to show greed is the only agenda for the councils in this area.[/p][/quote]Oh for gods sake have a wash. I would have chosen ALDI myself.[/p][/quote]Lidl would have been better I feel. penhale

7:51pm Fri 28 Sep 12

pete woodley says...

How dare lorry drivers go and park in Lilliput,have you no respect for the "ladies and gentlemen" in that area,what is the world coming to, such terrible behaviour.If we are not careful we will soon see people walking along the pavements,and making a noise at 10 am and as late as 5pm.One likes peace and quiet,one does.Mama and Papa will not like this.
How dare lorry drivers go and park in Lilliput,have you no respect for the "ladies and gentlemen" in that area,what is the world coming to, such terrible behaviour.If we are not careful we will soon see people walking along the pavements,and making a noise at 10 am and as late as 5pm.One likes peace and quiet,one does.Mama and Papa will not like this. pete woodley

8:28pm Fri 28 Sep 12

phonehome says...

We must be reaching saturation point when it comes to food outlets. There's a finite number of customers so they must just be spreading themselves round more and more stores without generating more profit. Unless, of course, Tesco is hoping people will abandon other names to make turning this country into Tescoland a little easier.

Hadn't you noticed? People are getting fatter!
We must be reaching saturation point when it comes to food outlets. There's a finite number of customers so they must just be spreading themselves round more and more stores without generating more profit. Unless, of course, Tesco is hoping people will abandon other names to make turning this country into Tescoland a little easier. Hadn't you noticed? People are getting fatter! phonehome

8:38pm Fri 28 Sep 12

pete woodley says...

Please was that comment needed, i am doing my best,there is a lot worse than me.lol.
Please was that comment needed, i am doing my best,there is a lot worse than me.lol. pete woodley

8:39pm Fri 28 Sep 12

pete woodley says...

Please was that comment needed, i am doing my best,there is a lot worse than me.lol.
Please was that comment needed, i am doing my best,there is a lot worse than me.lol. pete woodley

8:41pm Fri 28 Sep 12

casperella says...

If you dream of sand dunes and salty air..... Then you knew Sandbanks 30 years ago. The new builds, the new people , and the new money. Nothing wrong with progress but the character of Sandbanks has been gradually erased. A Tesco Express is the icing on the cake.
If you dream of sand dunes and salty air..... Then you knew Sandbanks 30 years ago. The new builds, the new people , and the new money. Nothing wrong with progress but the character of Sandbanks has been gradually erased. A Tesco Express is the icing on the cake. casperella

9:05pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Moordown1 says...

The character of sandbanks was erased a long time ago. What a shame
The character of sandbanks was erased a long time ago. What a shame Moordown1

10:43pm Fri 28 Sep 12

ABCD1 says...

Whilst I don't agree with the Tesco Express, the Sandacres should of shut years ago. It was a disgrace!

Surely a nice new restaurant / cafe would of been the best option. Cafe Shore isn't as nice as it used to be.

Ah well at least it will be easy to get a picnic for the beach! In the summer, what will they sell in the winter then? Just a few papers to the old f*rts.
Whilst I don't agree with the Tesco Express, the Sandacres should of shut years ago. It was a disgrace! Surely a nice new restaurant / cafe would of been the best option. Cafe Shore isn't as nice as it used to be. Ah well at least it will be easy to get a picnic for the beach! In the summer, what will they sell in the winter then? Just a few papers to the old f*rts. ABCD1

12:07am Sat 29 Sep 12

Bob49 says...

"They deserved to fail"

perhaps that was the idea
"They deserved to fail" perhaps that was the idea Bob49

12:42am Sat 29 Sep 12

Phixer says...

Wardy72 wrote:
Absolutely appalling. Whoever let that happen needs there head examining. How many Tesco stores do we need in the same vicinity? Just goes to show greed is the only agenda for the councils in this area.
If your reading skills were up to it, you would notice that the local council is not involved with this change of use.
[quote][p][bold]Wardy72[/bold] wrote: Absolutely appalling. Whoever let that happen needs there head examining. How many Tesco stores do we need in the same vicinity? Just goes to show greed is the only agenda for the councils in this area.[/p][/quote]If your reading skills were up to it, you would notice that the local council is not involved with this change of use. Phixer

8:09am Sat 29 Sep 12

Was Charlie says...

phonehome wrote:
We must be reaching saturation point when it comes to food outlets. There's a finite number of customers so they must just be spreading themselves round more and more stores without generating more profit. Unless, of course, Tesco is hoping people will abandon other names to make turning this country into Tescoland a little easier.

Hadn't you noticed? People are getting fatter!
Phonehome wrote: "Hadn't you noticed? People are getting fatter!"
........
They don't need more food outlets to do that - they can just buy more from the existing ones.
.......
Seems wherever you look, there's a new Tesco Express. Obviously no other businesses can survive because Tesco and the rest have put them all out of business. We're definitely heading for Tescoland when it will be "You'll buy what we're offering at the prices we're charging or starve."
[quote][p][bold]phonehome[/bold] wrote: We must be reaching saturation point when it comes to food outlets. There's a finite number of customers so they must just be spreading themselves round more and more stores without generating more profit. Unless, of course, Tesco is hoping people will abandon other names to make turning this country into Tescoland a little easier. Hadn't you noticed? People are getting fatter![/p][/quote]Phonehome wrote: "Hadn't you noticed? People are getting fatter!" ........ They don't need more food outlets to do that - they can just buy more from the existing ones. ....... Seems wherever you look, there's a new Tesco Express. Obviously no other businesses can survive because Tesco and the rest have put them all out of business. We're definitely heading for Tescoland when it will be "You'll buy what we're offering at the prices we're charging or starve." Was Charlie

8:24am Sat 29 Sep 12

pete woodley says...

Was Charlie,when Tesco came to Parkstone,it put my fathers small general shop in Branksome, out of business,and others nearby suffered afterwards.This time its worse,and your comment Tescoland is what i can see coming.Their prices will rise.
Was Charlie,when Tesco came to Parkstone,it put my fathers small general shop in Branksome, out of business,and others nearby suffered afterwards.This time its worse,and your comment Tescoland is what i can see coming.Their prices will rise. pete woodley

9:43am Sat 29 Sep 12

Dibbles2 says...

BarrHumbug wrote:
I bet there wouldn't be this commotion if it was a Waitrose Express?

The pub could have done so much better if it had been managed properly and had some money spent on it, look at the Jazz Cafe round the corner, the place is packed all the time?
The general commotion is aimed at the fact that Tescos exress are cropping up in every vacant pub going and you have to remember its not just residents that dont want it. Its visitors too! They dont provide adequate parking therefore causing traffic problems. Any other business would have parking restrictions added but as said in the article they dont need to apply for planning permission so those restrictions arent added.
[quote][p][bold]BarrHumbug[/bold] wrote: I bet there wouldn't be this commotion if it was a Waitrose Express? The pub could have done so much better if it had been managed properly and had some money spent on it, look at the Jazz Cafe round the corner, the place is packed all the time?[/p][/quote]The general commotion is aimed at the fact that Tescos exress are cropping up in every vacant pub going and you have to remember its not just residents that dont want it. Its visitors too! They dont provide adequate parking therefore causing traffic problems. Any other business would have parking restrictions added but as said in the article they dont need to apply for planning permission so those restrictions arent added. Dibbles2

9:49am Sat 29 Sep 12

Dibbles2 says...

pete woodley wrote:
Dibbles2 wrote:
“In my experience lots of people welcome Tesco Express stores because they regenerate buildings no longer in use, such as closed down pubs. “Most of our customers walk,” said Ms Chiswell."

Wake up Ms Chiswell! You seriously need to go and visit the Wallisdown Tesco express! Which incidentally needs a better quality of staff and freezers that work! You put parking spaces backing onto a bus stop! I sincerely hope that the first person that gets hurt there sues Tesco express.
You are right about the stupidy of parking
However Pete if they dont provide adequate parking at Sandbanks you have to pay to park on the road! I hope this puts prospective customers off but alas seeing how busy the Poole Quay store is I fear not. Their classy window displays of cardboard walkers crisps boxes will have the holiday makers flooding in.
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dibbles2[/bold] wrote: “In my experience lots of people welcome Tesco Express stores because they regenerate buildings no longer in use, such as closed down pubs. “Most of our customers walk,” said Ms Chiswell." Wake up Ms Chiswell! You seriously need to go and visit the Wallisdown Tesco express! Which incidentally needs a better quality of staff and freezers that work! You put parking spaces backing onto a bus stop! I sincerely hope that the first person that gets hurt there sues Tesco express.[/p][/quote]You are right about the stupidy of parking[/p][/quote]However Pete if they dont provide adequate parking at Sandbanks you have to pay to park on the road! I hope this puts prospective customers off but alas seeing how busy the Poole Quay store is I fear not. Their classy window displays of cardboard walkers crisps boxes will have the holiday makers flooding in. Dibbles2

10:16am Sat 29 Sep 12

MrPitiful says...

Oh dear.What on Earth is happening down on the golden (half) mile?

A Tesco Express!

Fact - half the local NIMBY's moaning on here & behind their £3 bottles of water in Cafe Shore will end up shopping there.

Especially about 10 minutes before closing time when they reduce the prices of all the perishable fresh goods in the 'fridge.

Welcome to 21st century living Sandbanks & Lilliput folks - we've been waiting for you.

What you now need to do is close down one of your half empty, outdated & over-priced hotels & let Primark move in.

Primark? - Google 'em!
Oh dear.What on Earth is happening down on the golden (half) mile? A Tesco Express! Fact - half the local NIMBY's moaning on here & behind their £3 bottles of water in Cafe Shore will end up shopping there. Especially about 10 minutes before closing time when they reduce the prices of all the perishable fresh goods in the 'fridge. Welcome to 21st century living Sandbanks & Lilliput folks - we've been waiting for you. What you now need to do is close down one of your half empty, outdated & over-priced hotels & let Primark move in. Primark? - Google 'em! MrPitiful

12:24pm Sat 29 Sep 12

BIGTONE says...

casperella wrote:
If you dream of sand dunes and salty air..... Then you knew Sandbanks 30 years ago. The new builds, the new people , and the new money. Nothing wrong with progress but the character of Sandbanks has been gradually erased. A Tesco Express is the icing on the cake.
Naww. A drive through McDonalds at Sandbanks ferry.Can't wait.

What better way than chomping a Big Mac on the ferry taking in the views and sea air.

Bliss.
[quote][p][bold]casperella[/bold] wrote: If you dream of sand dunes and salty air..... Then you knew Sandbanks 30 years ago. The new builds, the new people , and the new money. Nothing wrong with progress but the character of Sandbanks has been gradually erased. A Tesco Express is the icing on the cake.[/p][/quote]Naww. A drive through McDonalds at Sandbanks ferry.Can't wait. What better way than chomping a Big Mac on the ferry taking in the views and sea air. Bliss. BIGTONE

12:54pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Adrian XX says...

Fact - half the local NIMBY's moaning on here & behind their £3 bottles of water in Cafe Shore will end up shopping there.


I suspect there is a lot of jealous rage here clouding people's judgement.

It isn't the people who own houses on Sandbanks who use the facilities there or even live there most of the time. Nor is it they who are complaining. There are many people who go to Sandbanks to enjoy the beach and end up having a drink in Cafe Shore. Tesco Express arriving there will cause more problems for those visiting than those owning property there - mainly due to parking.

On a sunny day, there are queues onto the peninsula back as far as Haven Road or even Evening Hill and all the spaces by the Sandacres are taken up by wind and kite surfers if there is even the slightest bit of wind. It is going to cause even more chaos when people decide to pull into Tesco to buy a pork pie or a packet of fags. Perhaps Tesco should be forced to finance permanent traffic warden 200 metres either side of the store?
[quote]Fact - half the local NIMBY's moaning on here & behind their £3 bottles of water in Cafe Shore will end up shopping there.[/quote] I suspect there is a lot of jealous rage here clouding people's judgement. It isn't the people who own houses on Sandbanks who use the facilities there or even live there most of the time. Nor is it they who are complaining. There are many people who go to Sandbanks to enjoy the beach and end up having a drink in Cafe Shore. Tesco Express arriving there will cause more problems for those visiting than those owning property there - mainly due to parking. On a sunny day, there are queues onto the peninsula back as far as Haven Road or even Evening Hill and all the spaces by the Sandacres are taken up by wind and kite surfers if there is even the slightest bit of wind. It is going to cause even more chaos when people decide to pull into Tesco to buy a pork pie or a packet of fags. Perhaps Tesco should be forced to finance permanent traffic warden 200 metres either side of the store? Adrian XX

2:07pm Sat 29 Sep 12

moorsman70 says...

the public gets what the public wants
the public gets what the public wants moorsman70

2:08pm Sat 29 Sep 12

moorsman70 says...

the public gets what the public wants
the public gets what the public wants moorsman70

3:14pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Felicity1 says...

Good idea. It will do really well there, bring Sandbanks down to a bit of reality.Sandbanks boo boo
Good idea. It will do really well there, bring Sandbanks down to a bit of reality.Sandbanks boo boo Felicity1

4:06pm Sat 29 Sep 12

b26b says...

Excellent news anything to **** off the rich
Excellent news anything to **** off the rich b26b

4:07pm Sat 29 Sep 12

b26b says...

And bedsides who cares?
And bedsides who cares? b26b

4:10pm Sat 29 Sep 12

oneshortleg says...

I cannot believe that a pub/restaurant etc cannot work on this site with those views. I just think the landlord has sold to the highest bidder!
I cannot believe that a pub/restaurant etc cannot work on this site with those views. I just think the landlord has sold to the highest bidder! oneshortleg

4:32pm Sat 29 Sep 12

I like wine :) says...

I used to live in Sandbanks many years ago and my house mates and I practically lived in the local pubs (Sandacres and Beehive). Lots of the locals did too, it was the only bit of community we had. I hate to see places that should have other purposes taken over by Tesco's locals. The church in Westbourne being the saddest for me. They are like scavengers moving in and taking over potential new business ideas from locals.

The Sandacres was awful in recent years but could have been fantastic pub/cafe and a real money spinner in the right hands. As a visiter to Sandbanks now I'm really saddened to see it being exploited as it was one of the few areas we had left that wasn't overtaken by supermarkets.....Peo
ple took picnics down the beach not plastic sandwiches and boxes of beers. :(

PS.I wasn't rich, I paid £30 per week to share a flat next to the ferry and loved how cut off from society the place was in the winter. Many people go there in the winter for peace and solitude not Tesco Express!
I used to live in Sandbanks many years ago and my house mates and I practically lived in the local pubs (Sandacres and Beehive). Lots of the locals did too, it was the only bit of community we had. I hate to see places that should have other purposes taken over by Tesco's locals. The church in Westbourne being the saddest for me. They are like scavengers moving in and taking over potential new business ideas from locals. The Sandacres was awful in recent years but could have been fantastic pub/cafe and a real money spinner in the right hands. As a visiter to Sandbanks now I'm really saddened to see it being exploited as it was one of the few areas we had left that wasn't overtaken by supermarkets.....Peo ple took picnics down the beach not plastic sandwiches and boxes of beers. :( PS.I wasn't rich, I paid £30 per week to share a flat next to the ferry and loved how cut off from society the place was in the winter. Many people go there in the winter for peace and solitude not Tesco Express! I like wine :)

7:47pm Sat 29 Sep 12

ashleycross says...

I can't believe how commented on this story is! As for being a posh area, nonsense. To quote Mrs Slocombe in are you being served, "The quality do not wear their bosoms hitched up round their earholes Miss Brahms". To update this, "the quality do not wear their cheeks hitched up round their earholes".I'm sure Tesco will be right at home on Sandbanks.I'm just hoping they put in all the posh nosh we used to get at the Lilliput branch when it first opened, but we now don't get it. Bring back Cauldron and Dorset Cereals, sadly not the right demographic dear, as the level of botox used locally shows.
I can't believe how commented on this story is! As for being a posh area, nonsense. To quote Mrs Slocombe in are you being served, "The quality do not wear their bosoms hitched up round their earholes Miss Brahms". To update this, "the quality do not wear their cheeks hitched up round their earholes".I'm sure Tesco will be right at home on Sandbanks.I'm just hoping they put in all the posh nosh we used to get at the Lilliput branch when it first opened, but we now don't get it. Bring back Cauldron and Dorset Cereals, sadly not the right demographic dear, as the level of botox used locally shows. ashleycross

8:35pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Bournefre says...

I can't imagine there would be this much commotion if a pub in Bournemouth were turned into a Tesco Express, in fact it would probably be welcomed. Without ever having set foot in the Sandacres I'm going to proclaim that it is a good job it shut, because it will discourage binge drinking and antisocial behaviour, with it's cheap drinks and offers such as buy one get one free.
I can't imagine there would be this much commotion if a pub in Bournemouth were turned into a Tesco Express, in fact it would probably be welcomed. Without ever having set foot in the Sandacres I'm going to proclaim that it is a good job it shut, because it will discourage binge drinking and antisocial behaviour, with it's cheap drinks and offers such as buy one get one free. Bournefre

6:43am Sun 30 Sep 12

EGHH says...

Glad the space is being used to serve the community by Tesco's. The pub was crap! It didn't look inviting from the outside for a start!!
Glad the space is being used to serve the community by Tesco's. The pub was crap! It didn't look inviting from the outside for a start!! EGHH

8:38am Sun 30 Sep 12

BIGTONE says...

Bournefre wrote:
I can't imagine there would be this much commotion if a pub in Bournemouth were turned into a Tesco Express, in fact it would probably be welcomed. Without ever having set foot in the Sandacres I'm going to proclaim that it is a good job it shut, because it will discourage binge drinking and antisocial behaviour, with it's cheap drinks and offers such as buy one get one free.
But Tesco's and the like are famous for their BOGOF offers on cases of beer.
[quote][p][bold]Bournefre[/bold] wrote: I can't imagine there would be this much commotion if a pub in Bournemouth were turned into a Tesco Express, in fact it would probably be welcomed. Without ever having set foot in the Sandacres I'm going to proclaim that it is a good job it shut, because it will discourage binge drinking and antisocial behaviour, with it's cheap drinks and offers such as buy one get one free.[/p][/quote]But Tesco's and the like are famous for their BOGOF offers on cases of beer. BIGTONE

11:20am Sun 30 Sep 12

gameon says...

Lord Spring wrote:
sollie wrote:
Creating 20 jobs - does that mean we will see Harry Rednap on the tills!
And Richard Carr as a greeter, Dave Wells stacking shelves.
And Eddie Mitchell handling the money and paying the staff and suppliers
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sollie[/bold] wrote: Creating 20 jobs - does that mean we will see Harry Rednap on the tills![/p][/quote]And Richard Carr as a greeter, Dave Wells stacking shelves.[/p][/quote]And Eddie Mitchell handling the money and paying the staff and suppliers gameon

11:35am Sun 30 Sep 12

pete woodley says...

gameon wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
sollie wrote:
Creating 20 jobs - does that mean we will see Harry Rednap on the tills!
And Richard Carr as a greeter, Dave Wells stacking shelves.
And Eddie Mitchell handling the money and paying the staff and suppliers
Who is going to lay the car park ?.
[quote][p][bold]gameon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sollie[/bold] wrote: Creating 20 jobs - does that mean we will see Harry Rednap on the tills![/p][/quote]And Richard Carr as a greeter, Dave Wells stacking shelves.[/p][/quote]And Eddie Mitchell handling the money and paying the staff and suppliers[/p][/quote]Who is going to lay the car park ?. pete woodley

12:07pm Sun 30 Sep 12

gameon says...

The Pikeys adding to the ambience of Tescos!!
The Pikeys adding to the ambience of Tescos!! gameon

12:49pm Sun 30 Sep 12

pete woodley says...

The statement "sandbanks is going down" should say the type of resident is going down,Eddie Mitchell,Harry Redknap,and a few others that we often read about in the Echo.Its a posers paradise now,and if the police did have the time to stop aload of cars at night for breathaliser tests,i am sure they would have a hay day.
The statement "sandbanks is going down" should say the type of resident is going down,Eddie Mitchell,Harry Redknap,and a few others that we often read about in the Echo.Its a posers paradise now,and if the police did have the time to stop aload of cars at night for breathaliser tests,i am sure they would have a hay day. pete woodley

1:09pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Adrian XX says...

I can't imagine there would be this much commotion if a pub in Bournemouth were turned into a Tesco Express, in fact it would probably be welcomed.

But there aren't any real pubs left in Bournemouth.
[quote]I can't imagine there would be this much commotion if a pub in Bournemouth were turned into a Tesco Express, in fact it would probably be welcomed.[/quote] But there aren't any real pubs left in Bournemouth. Adrian XX

6:19pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Bmthdad says...

Humf wrote:
A jaw-dropping story indeed, a Tescos in Sandbanks and right on the harbour ? Lovely ! Carrier bags, rubbish, lovely bright tescos sign shining out from 7 -11. And on the corner of shore road at a junction where an accident waiting to happen. Is there any point having planning laws or departments ?

And the League of Gentlemen comment from the community liaison manager “It’s a local shop for local people.” - hilarious.
Perhaps if you read the story properly, you would notice that there is no requirement for planning permission.
The change can be made under "permitted development rights".
perhaps if more people had used the pub it wouldn't have needed to close.
Better someone makes use of the building that it sit empty and become derelict.
The shop will also provide jobs.
Some people are never happy
[quote][p][bold]Humf[/bold] wrote: A jaw-dropping story indeed, a Tescos in Sandbanks and right on the harbour ? Lovely ! Carrier bags, rubbish, lovely bright tescos sign shining out from 7 -11. And on the corner of shore road at a junction where an accident waiting to happen. Is there any point having planning laws or departments ? And the League of Gentlemen comment from the community liaison manager “It’s a local shop for local people.” - hilarious.[/p][/quote]Perhaps if you read the story properly, you would notice that there is no requirement for planning permission. The change can be made under "permitted development rights". perhaps if more people had used the pub it wouldn't have needed to close. Better someone makes use of the building that it sit empty and become derelict. The shop will also provide jobs. Some people are never happy Bmthdad

7:50pm Sun 30 Sep 12

fifty shades of brown envelopes says...

Pete woodley on the door head bouncer
Pete woodley on the door head bouncer fifty shades of brown envelopes

2:12am Mon 1 Oct 12

pete woodley says...

Wouldnt be the first time.
Wouldnt be the first time. pete woodley

9:56am Mon 1 Oct 12

social-poet says...

"A popular venue on its Tuesday quiz nights, the pub across the road from the sea also attracted windsurfers and kitesurfers from Whitley Bay as well as holidaymakers and locals."

Well it wasn't that popular then - if it closed down!
"A popular venue on its Tuesday quiz nights, the pub across the road from the sea also attracted windsurfers and kitesurfers from Whitley Bay as well as holidaymakers and locals." Well it wasn't that popular then - if it closed down! social-poet

10:48am Mon 1 Oct 12

fifty shades of brown envelopes says...

fifty shades of brown envelopes wrote:
Pete woodley on the door head bouncer
or hamworthygirl
whats the diffo.
[quote][p][bold]fifty shades of brown envelopes[/bold] wrote: Pete woodley on the door head bouncer[/p][/quote]or hamworthygirl whats the diffo. fifty shades of brown envelopes

12:25pm Mon 1 Oct 12

seasick steve says...

It is a real shame to see the Sandacres Pub go, I spent many happy times there, great pool tables too..... the only un-pretentious pub in the area where you you could truly kick back and chill with your mates....also great place to take your drink onto the beach and watch the sun go down...Them were the days.
It is a real shame to see the Sandacres Pub go, I spent many happy times there, great pool tables too..... the only un-pretentious pub in the area where you you could truly kick back and chill with your mates....also great place to take your drink onto the beach and watch the sun go down...Them were the days. seasick steve

5:09pm Mon 1 Oct 12

pete woodley says...

fifty shades of brown envelopes wrote:
fifty shades of brown envelopes wrote:
Pete woodley on the door head bouncer
or hamworthygirl
whats the diffo.
No difference, we both are not as stupid as you.And neither of us make silly childish statements like you always are doing,obviously what you are on has a effect on your brain.
[quote][p][bold]fifty shades of brown envelopes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fifty shades of brown envelopes[/bold] wrote: Pete woodley on the door head bouncer[/p][/quote]or hamworthygirl whats the diffo.[/p][/quote]No difference, we both are not as stupid as you.And neither of us make silly childish statements like you always are doing,obviously what you are on has a effect on your brain. pete woodley

6:18pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Bournefre says...

BIGTONE wrote:
Bournefre wrote:
I can't imagine there would be this much commotion if a pub in Bournemouth were turned into a Tesco Express, in fact it would probably be welcomed. Without ever having set foot in the Sandacres I'm going to proclaim that it is a good job it shut, because it will discourage binge drinking and antisocial behaviour, with it's cheap drinks and offers such as buy one get one free.
But Tesco's and the like are famous for their BOGOF offers on cases of beer.
Not Tesco express though, which is what this will be. Tesco express are actually quite expensive for cans of beer.
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bournefre[/bold] wrote: I can't imagine there would be this much commotion if a pub in Bournemouth were turned into a Tesco Express, in fact it would probably be welcomed. Without ever having set foot in the Sandacres I'm going to proclaim that it is a good job it shut, because it will discourage binge drinking and antisocial behaviour, with it's cheap drinks and offers such as buy one get one free.[/p][/quote]But Tesco's and the like are famous for their BOGOF offers on cases of beer.[/p][/quote]Not Tesco express though, which is what this will be. Tesco express are actually quite expensive for cans of beer. Bournefre

6:30pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Bournefre says...

Adrian XX wrote:
I can't imagine there would be this much commotion if a pub in Bournemouth were turned into a Tesco Express, in fact it would probably be welcomed.

But there aren't any real pubs left in Bournemouth.
No, because they've all been shut down because apparently there are too many, or priced out of business to pay for things like taxi wardens. Drinking establishments can make money out of students necking back Jaegerbombs, but they can't make money from people sitting around talking. This is apparently what the public want every time they demand the pubs pay for this that and the other, and call for it all to be made more expensive; the end product being that people get tanked up before they go out, and old people have to 'run the gauntlet' on their way back from the theatre.
[quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote]I can't imagine there would be this much commotion if a pub in Bournemouth were turned into a Tesco Express, in fact it would probably be welcomed.[/quote] But there aren't any real pubs left in Bournemouth.[/p][/quote]No, because they've all been shut down because apparently there are too many, or priced out of business to pay for things like taxi wardens. Drinking establishments can make money out of students necking back Jaegerbombs, but they can't make money from people sitting around talking. This is apparently what the public want every time they demand the pubs pay for this that and the other, and call for it all to be made more expensive; the end product being that people get tanked up before they go out, and old people have to 'run the gauntlet' on their way back from the theatre. Bournefre

6:32pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Bournefre says...

Maybe they should turn it into a swimming pool or ice rink instead.
Maybe they should turn it into a swimming pool or ice rink instead. Bournefre

7:06pm Mon 1 Oct 12

EDDIE GROVES. says...

pete woodley wrote:
fifty shades of brown envelopes wrote:
fifty shades of brown envelopes wrote:
Pete woodley on the door head bouncer
or hamworthygirl
whats the diffo.
No difference, we both are not as stupid as you.And neither of us make silly childish statements like you always are doing,obviously what you are on has a effect on your brain.
I can arange for the three of you to go boot camp, that should silence you.
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fifty shades of brown envelopes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fifty shades of brown envelopes[/bold] wrote: Pete woodley on the door head bouncer[/p][/quote]or hamworthygirl whats the diffo.[/p][/quote]No difference, we both are not as stupid as you.And neither of us make silly childish statements like you always are doing,obviously what you are on has a effect on your brain.[/p][/quote]I can arange for the three of you to go boot camp, that should silence you. EDDIE GROVES.

8:50am Tue 2 Oct 12

pete woodley says...

Eddie are you taking the same stuff.
Eddie are you taking the same stuff. pete woodley

12:52pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Arthur Maureen says...

Fedupwithjobsworths could be the trolley monkey round up those pesky trolleys, think Pete Woodley would be more suited to checkout supervisor
Fedupwithjobsworths could be the trolley monkey round up those pesky trolleys, think Pete Woodley would be more suited to checkout supervisor Arthur Maureen

12:52pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Arthur Maureen says...

Fedupwithjobsworths could be the trolley monkey round up those pesky trolleys, think Pete Woodley would be more suited to checkout supervisor
Fedupwithjobsworths could be the trolley monkey round up those pesky trolleys, think Pete Woodley would be more suited to checkout supervisor Arthur Maureen

1:04pm Tue 2 Oct 12

bornINpoole69 says...

lots of interesting stuff here!
I am very amused by the comments of the
"have nots" and if their attitude in life is like their posts, they will always be "have nots"!
Someone said above there is no where for a drink from Park gates to the ferry.
What about Salterns? good range of beers and wine.
The Sandbanks Hotel? bit too pricey maybe. I stopped going to Jazzies years ago when I was short measured so lets move onto Cafe Shore and The Haven Hotel.
All expensive. iF YOU WANT WETHERBOARDS PRICES GO WETHERBOARDS!
I also see major drink problems on the beach as well as litter. not just litter from the pisheads but far worse - the foxes. they will go through every bin at night and distribute the contents when are then ripped open by the seagulls. Tesco will of course get the blame.
Then there will be the beach parties - an 18b year old will go to Tescos (bypassing the Pete Woolley security) and purchase enough booze to sink a surfreef. then we have drunken orgies at shore road beach, empty cans and bottles everywhere and of course noise.As far as traffic is concerned, the idiots at the council have already caused the biggest traffic jams in the town by removing the filter lane at the main car park so parkers and through traffic have to sit in line for hours on a busy summers day. Maybe Tesco could do a kerb side cold drinks service so the motorist can keep cool and hydrated whilst they wait to get past.
lots of interesting stuff here! I am very amused by the comments of the "have nots" and if their attitude in life is like their posts, they will always be "have nots"! Someone said above there is no where for a drink from Park gates to the ferry. What about Salterns? good range of beers and wine. The Sandbanks Hotel? bit too pricey maybe. I stopped going to Jazzies years ago when I was short measured so lets move onto Cafe Shore and The Haven Hotel. All expensive. iF YOU WANT WETHERBOARDS PRICES GO WETHERBOARDS! I also see major drink problems on the beach as well as litter. not just litter from the pisheads but far worse - the foxes. they will go through every bin at night and distribute the contents when are then ripped open by the seagulls. Tesco will of course get the blame. Then there will be the beach parties - an 18b year old will go to Tescos (bypassing the Pete Woolley security) and purchase enough booze to sink a surfreef. then we have drunken orgies at shore road beach, empty cans and bottles everywhere and of course noise.As far as traffic is concerned, the idiots at the council have already caused the biggest traffic jams in the town by removing the filter lane at the main car park so parkers and through traffic have to sit in line for hours on a busy summers day. Maybe Tesco could do a kerb side cold drinks service so the motorist can keep cool and hydrated whilst they wait to get past. bornINpoole69

4:50pm Tue 2 Oct 12

pete woodley says...

Arthur Maureen wrote:
Fedupwithjobsworths could beWhats the wages,i am interested.
[quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: Fedupwithjobsworths could beWhats the wages,i am interested. pete woodley

4:58pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Talkingheadera says...

harrythered wrote:
Adrian XX wrote:
Many European countries impose lower rates of VAT (5% in some cases) on sales in bars and cafes compared to supermarket/off sale outlets. Our country has the highest rate of beer tax (excise duty and VAT) in Europe and has an escalator tax rise built in every year of 2.5% above inflation - it's killing the pub trade and the supermarkets love it. They can pile it high, sell it cheap and have none of the associated costs of running pubs or dealing with drink or pub laws. How many people get loaded up with cheap booze from Tescos before going out. It's just a crazy one sided business.

I hadn't realised that some EU countries had dropped VAT rates for pubs. I guess you are talking about this: http://on.ft.com/NV1


nMs

I am not sure I would like to see this for the whole industry. Do we really want McDonalds paying less VAT? (and therefore the government needing to raise other taxes to compensate?). I think this could be applied to SMEs only.
I think its about paying whats fair. I read that wetherspoons total tax bill is £500 million a year, or £13,000 per pub per week. That is a huge sum for a business of that size and equates to 45% of the cost of a pint in their pubs (figs courtesy of Tim Martin their chairman). I don't know what the answer is to address the inequality but it sure isn't taxing the pub and restaurant industry to death. After all that I think I need a pint (at the pub of course!!)
I think you'll find the reason other nations tax lower to food and beverage outlets is to encourage people to eat and drink out.
Simple. The more this happens the more tax and vat the government gains rather than no vat on food in a supermarket. Low prices equals low vat in supermarkets. More people eating and drinking out helps the economy. I don't see the need for duty full stop. What's wrong with just vat?
[quote][p][bold]harrythered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote]Many European countries impose lower rates of VAT (5% in some cases) on sales in bars and cafes compared to supermarket/off sale outlets. Our country has the highest rate of beer tax (excise duty and VAT) in Europe and has an escalator tax rise built in every year of 2.5% above inflation - it's killing the pub trade and the supermarkets love it. They can pile it high, sell it cheap and have none of the associated costs of running pubs or dealing with drink or pub laws. How many people get loaded up with cheap booze from Tescos before going out. It's just a crazy one sided business.[/quote] I hadn't realised that some EU countries had dropped VAT rates for pubs. I guess you are talking about this: http://on.ft.com/NV1 nMs I am not sure I would like to see this for the whole industry. Do we really want McDonalds paying less VAT? (and therefore the government needing to raise other taxes to compensate?). I think this could be applied to SMEs only.[/p][/quote]I think its about paying whats fair. I read that wetherspoons total tax bill is £500 million a year, or £13,000 per pub per week. That is a huge sum for a business of that size and equates to 45% of the cost of a pint in their pubs (figs courtesy of Tim Martin their chairman). I don't know what the answer is to address the inequality but it sure isn't taxing the pub and restaurant industry to death. After all that I think I need a pint (at the pub of course!!)[/p][/quote]I think you'll find the reason other nations tax lower to food and beverage outlets is to encourage people to eat and drink out. Simple. The more this happens the more tax and vat the government gains rather than no vat on food in a supermarket. Low prices equals low vat in supermarkets. More people eating and drinking out helps the economy. I don't see the need for duty full stop. What's wrong with just vat? Talkingheadera

1:14pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Dont drop litter says...

Felicity1 wrote:
Good idea. It will do really well there, bring Sandbanks down to a bit of reality.Sandbanks boo boo
Jealous idiot
[quote][p][bold]Felicity1[/bold] wrote: Good idea. It will do really well there, bring Sandbanks down to a bit of reality.Sandbanks boo boo[/p][/quote]Jealous idiot Dont drop litter

1:17pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Dont drop litter says...

b26b wrote:
Excellent news anything to **** off the rich
Another jealous idiot. Don't try to pretend that you don't want more from life. There is nothing wrong with trying to better you self or your surroundings - but there is wrong it trying to bring down those who have.
[quote][p][bold]b26b[/bold] wrote: Excellent news anything to **** off the rich[/p][/quote]Another jealous idiot. Don't try to pretend that you don't want more from life. There is nothing wrong with trying to better you self or your surroundings - but there is wrong it trying to bring down those who have. Dont drop litter

10:23pm Wed 3 Oct 12

jimmy saville says...

i think its time i change my user name!
i think its time i change my user name! jimmy saville

9:19am Thu 4 Oct 12

Incognito1 says...

Is this actually going to be allowed to happen? Is there any way to stop it happening? A Tesco's by the beach in the beautiful Poole Harbour must be the final straw. Why not open a McDonald's as well? Asda will want a piece of the action too but they can buy sandbanks car park and develop that, because as we know it will be in keeping with Poole Harbour and surrounding areas. Don't worry about planning.

'A local shop for local people' arrrh isn't that nice, they are doing it for us! Not that the staff get paid nothing along with the suppliers of food who get screwed down to minimal profit margins.

Tesco I loathe you, can't you make do with the Lilliput store that offers huge returns or do you really have to ruin shore road as well? Go away, we don't want you here.
Is this actually going to be allowed to happen? Is there any way to stop it happening? A Tesco's by the beach in the beautiful Poole Harbour must be the final straw. Why not open a McDonald's as well? Asda will want a piece of the action too but they can buy sandbanks car park and develop that, because as we know it will be in keeping with Poole Harbour and surrounding areas. Don't worry about planning. 'A local shop for local people' arrrh isn't that nice, they are doing it for us! Not that the staff get paid nothing along with the suppliers of food who get screwed down to minimal profit margins. Tesco I loathe you, can't you make do with the Lilliput store that offers huge returns or do you really have to ruin shore road as well? Go away, we don't want you here. Incognito1

7:20pm Thu 4 Oct 12

pete woodley says...

Incognito1 wrote:
Is this actually going to be allowed to happen? Is there any way to stop it happening? A Tesco's by the beach in the beautiful Poole Harbour must be the final straw. Why not open a McDonald's as well? Asda will want a piece of the action too but they can buy sandbanks car park and develop that, because as we know it will be in keeping with Poole Harbour and surrounding areas. Don't worry about planning.

'A local shop for local people' arrrh isn't that nice, they are doing it for us! Not that the staff get paid nothing along with the suppliers of food who get screwed down to minimal profit margins.

Tesco I loathe you, can't you make do with the Lilliput store that offers huge returns or do you really have to ruin shore road as well? Go away, we don't want you here.
Other areas have to put up with it,whats so special about sandbanks,posers paradise.
[quote][p][bold]Incognito1[/bold] wrote: Is this actually going to be allowed to happen? Is there any way to stop it happening? A Tesco's by the beach in the beautiful Poole Harbour must be the final straw. Why not open a McDonald's as well? Asda will want a piece of the action too but they can buy sandbanks car park and develop that, because as we know it will be in keeping with Poole Harbour and surrounding areas. Don't worry about planning. 'A local shop for local people' arrrh isn't that nice, they are doing it for us! Not that the staff get paid nothing along with the suppliers of food who get screwed down to minimal profit margins. Tesco I loathe you, can't you make do with the Lilliput store that offers huge returns or do you really have to ruin shore road as well? Go away, we don't want you here.[/p][/quote]Other areas have to put up with it,whats so special about sandbanks,posers paradise. pete woodley

10:18pm Thu 4 Oct 12

equipe says...

The real problem will be litter, especially in summer evenings. I regularly walk the beach harbour side there and see people picnicing as the sun goes down. Next morning theres can empty packets all over the place. Such a shame to see. Also great shame pub is closing. But it was a dire pub. Your feet stuck to thread bare carpet as you walked around. It could have been so much better.
The real problem will be litter, especially in summer evenings. I regularly walk the beach harbour side there and see people picnicing as the sun goes down. Next morning theres can empty packets all over the place. Such a shame to see. Also great shame pub is closing. But it was a dire pub. Your feet stuck to thread bare carpet as you walked around. It could have been so much better. equipe

10:43pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Hampshire Dorset says...

I think it's tragic. There is no need for another Tesco Express, for goodness sake there is one less than 3 minutes drive away! It smacks of a big business offering far more money than others to get the site. Ok, that is a free market but the shop is not needed, it is rampant expansion and where oh where is the unique side of our community going? Sandacres was a lovely pub, we used it alot and is a loss to the area. Am rapidly going off the idea of using Tesco at all - what with their desecration of the church in Westbourne they simply seem intent on domination. Frankly the product they rely on isn't much cop, they will be wresting another part of the community by doing this and they should never be allowed to open there. As for parking, that is a nonsense. Tesco, you really need to think again as you are gradually annoying more and more people - as for Ms Chisholm, a hollow voice with a pitiful explanation.
I think it's tragic. There is no need for another Tesco Express, for goodness sake there is one less than 3 minutes drive away! It smacks of a big business offering far more money than others to get the site. Ok, that is a free market but the shop is not needed, it is rampant expansion and where oh where is the unique side of our community going? Sandacres was a lovely pub, we used it alot and is a loss to the area. Am rapidly going off the idea of using Tesco at all - what with their desecration of the church in Westbourne they simply seem intent on domination. Frankly the product they rely on isn't much cop, they will be wresting another part of the community by doing this and they should never be allowed to open there. As for parking, that is a nonsense. Tesco, you really need to think again as you are gradually annoying more and more people - as for Ms Chisholm, a hollow voice with a pitiful explanation. Hampshire Dorset

9:00am Fri 5 Oct 12

Incognito1 says...

pete woodley wrote:
Incognito1 wrote: Is this actually going to be allowed to happen? Is there any way to stop it happening? A Tesco's by the beach in the beautiful Poole Harbour must be the final straw. Why not open a McDonald's as well? Asda will want a piece of the action too but they can buy sandbanks car park and develop that, because as we know it will be in keeping with Poole Harbour and surrounding areas. Don't worry about planning. 'A local shop for local people' arrrh isn't that nice, they are doing it for us! Not that the staff get paid nothing along with the suppliers of food who get screwed down to minimal profit margins. Tesco I loathe you, can't you make do with the Lilliput store that offers huge returns or do you really have to ruin shore road as well? Go away, we don't want you here.
Other areas have to put up with it,whats so special about sandbanks,posers paradise.
What's so special about the shore road site? Really? Umm....the fact to faces right on to the beach!! A place where people go to relax. Do people want to see a Tesco sign lit up in the middle of a beautiful part of the world. Logistically I can't see how it can work with deliveries etc. If Lilliput is anything to go by the 5:30/6 am noisy deliveries will have the locals up in arms.

Other areas do have to put up with it but how many people, for example, decend on Bournemouth road (as nice an area as it is) with their families to enjoy a day by the sea, or go kitesurfing there? Sandbanks is a place for everyone to enjoy not just the locals as I'm sure everyone agrees and a commercial eyesore is not appropriate.

Is there a petition started yet? If enough people oppose it can be stopped.
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Incognito1[/bold] wrote: Is this actually going to be allowed to happen? Is there any way to stop it happening? A Tesco's by the beach in the beautiful Poole Harbour must be the final straw. Why not open a McDonald's as well? Asda will want a piece of the action too but they can buy sandbanks car park and develop that, because as we know it will be in keeping with Poole Harbour and surrounding areas. Don't worry about planning. 'A local shop for local people' arrrh isn't that nice, they are doing it for us! Not that the staff get paid nothing along with the suppliers of food who get screwed down to minimal profit margins. Tesco I loathe you, can't you make do with the Lilliput store that offers huge returns or do you really have to ruin shore road as well? Go away, we don't want you here.[/p][/quote]Other areas have to put up with it,whats so special about sandbanks,posers paradise.[/p][/quote]What's so special about the shore road site? Really? Umm....the fact to faces right on to the beach!! A place where people go to relax. Do people want to see a Tesco sign lit up in the middle of a beautiful part of the world. Logistically I can't see how it can work with deliveries etc. If Lilliput is anything to go by the 5:30/6 am noisy deliveries will have the locals up in arms. Other areas do have to put up with it but how many people, for example, decend on Bournemouth road (as nice an area as it is) with their families to enjoy a day by the sea, or go kitesurfing there? Sandbanks is a place for everyone to enjoy not just the locals as I'm sure everyone agrees and a commercial eyesore is not appropriate. Is there a petition started yet? If enough people oppose it can be stopped. Incognito1

9:09am Fri 5 Oct 12

Incognito1 says...

pete woodley wrote:
How dare lorry drivers go and park in Lilliput,have you no respect for the "ladies and gentlemen" in that area,what is the world coming to, such terrible behaviour.If we are not careful we will soon see people walking along the pavements,and making a noise at 10 am and as late as 5pm.One likes peace and quiet,one does.Mama and Papa will not like this.
weak
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: How dare lorry drivers go and park in Lilliput,have you no respect for the "ladies and gentlemen" in that area,what is the world coming to, such terrible behaviour.If we are not careful we will soon see people walking along the pavements,and making a noise at 10 am and as late as 5pm.One likes peace and quiet,one does.Mama and Papa will not like this.[/p][/quote]weak Incognito1

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