Restaurant faces closure after complaints about noise

A POPULAR New Forest restaurant that opened without planning permission is facing closure after a spate of complaints about late-night noise.

Councillors rejected an application to continue using Anchor House in Lymington as an eatery, despite strong support from customers.

People living near by say they have had to put up with rowdy behaviour and the sound of car doors slamming as late as 11pm.

A report to the district council’s planning and development control committee said: “The establishment has been operating for a number of years as a bar/restaurant without planning permission and has already caused unnecessary annoyance and distress to local residents.

“On a busy summer evening there’s very significant noise both from patrons drinking at the premises and those leaving late into the night.”

The council received more than 80 letters of support from diners.

Planning agent Bob Hull, representing the applicant, Fine Food 4 Sail, said late-night noise had been wrongly attributed to the business.

Comments(23)

pete woodley says...
11:22am Sun 16 Sep 12

Is the local oppisition coming indirectly from certain local licencees.

MikeFrench says...
11:41am Sun 16 Sep 12

WOW!! 11pm - what a shocker....

Frank28 says...
12:16pm Sun 16 Sep 12

If the restaurant has been running as an unlawful business for a number of years; why didn't the Council Planning snoopers notice it?

manyogie says...
12:16pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Fairs fair, if it did flout the planning laws then, in essence, what other laws can it flout?
Hygene, employment, licensing?
We do need to review rents/rates etc to encourage new business, but we do need laws too to protect our own environment and welfare.

I-H-S says...
12:24pm Sun 16 Sep 12

They have simply found the truth of the adage-

'The only way to know how far to go is by going too far'.

Phixer says...
2:49pm Sun 16 Sep 12

MikeFrench wrote:
WOW!! 11pm - what a shocker....
Indeed, and it is nearly dark at that time of night in mid-summer!

BIGTONE says...
9:00pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Phixer wrote:
MikeFrench wrote:
WOW!! 11pm - what a shocker....
Indeed, and it is nearly dark at that time of night in mid-summer!
Yep the zimmer frames are hung up by 10pm in Lymington.

Old Harry says...
9:23pm Sun 16 Sep 12

BIGTONE wrote:
Phixer wrote:
MikeFrench wrote: WOW!! 11pm - what a shocker....
Indeed, and it is nearly dark at that time of night in mid-summer!
Yep the zimmer frames are hung up by 10pm in Lymington.
You don't have to use a zimmer frame to object to a persistent source of noise after 10 at night. Visit the location. Sure there are trade premises in the area but they close early evening and the remaining properties are residential. The planning laws are supposed to protect the right of those living in the area to reside in peace.

pete woodley says...
9:28pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Are you saying all the pubs in town should shut at 10 pm,which it would have to be,if its all or nothing.Or is just one p-lace upsetting other pubs/restaurants.

Adrian XX says...
8:39am Mon 17 Sep 12

One should be able to reside in peace at any time of day and 11pm is very late to be disturbed if you have to get up at 5 or 6 am to commute to work.

Ferngully says...
9:16am Mon 17 Sep 12

Adrian XX wrote:
One should be able to reside in peace at any time of day and 11pm is very late to be disturbed if you have to get up at 5 or 6 am to commute to work.
Typical lymo's winging about people enjoying themselves .... cant wait for wetherspoons to open.

polblagger says...
10:48am Mon 17 Sep 12

No planning permission = no business.

You can't circumvent the law and cry foul.

I'm afraid the only word that comes to mind is, tough.

pete woodley says...
1:51pm Mon 17 Sep 12

And you cant close one at 10pm and let the rest stay open till 11pm.

Dave321 says...
5:11pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Well, yes you can, Pete, when one has been operated illegally without planning permission for around 4 years and the other businesses all have planning permission. The original building was a small coffee shop which operated legally, complete with planning permission, between the hours of roughly 9-5. Since then the "cafe" has become a restaurant and bar, without planning permission, and there have been numerous noise and other issues emanating from the business leading to distress for local residents, some of whom live within feet of the building across a single track road. A friend of mine tells me that it is not unusual for private functions to go on well into the early hours. Not much fun when she has to get up at 6 am for work and her kids are trying to study for their GCSEs. Some of the supporters of "this popular restaurant" actually live in Warwickshire and Surrey so don't have to put up with the noise and antisocial behaviour that the local residents do.

Adrian XX says...
6:36pm Mon 17 Sep 12

winging about people enjoying themselves

The complaint is about noise, not about people enjoying themselves. Noise simply has to be limited in areas of dense population.

pete woodley says...
7:06pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Dave321,why has the council not said anything till now,Lymingtons reputation with pubs has been going on for 100 years,apart from the amount of them,licensees always had a free hand,especially those with the right connections,

pete woodley says...
7:09pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Dave321,why has the council not said anything till now,Lymingtons reputation with pubs has been going on for 100 years,apart from the amount of them,licensees always had a free hand,especially those with the right connections,

Derrick45 says...
8:11pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Surprise Surprise.
Lymington always has been "who you know" and "who has the money"
I was born there and lived in the area until 2004

Bit like the "pound shop" issue.

Unfortunately the real people of Lymington were driven out in the sixties and all Lymington is now is an imitation of Bond Street.
It is such a shame that a once nice Forest town has been spoilt by outsiders who have made Lymington a whore to money

pete woodley says...
9:29am Tue 18 Sep 12

Derrick45,as you say money talks in Lymington,licencees can do what they like open without planning permission or paint a pillar box,one gets done,the other gets away with it,wonder which one was a mason,or had"friends" in the right place.Obviously the "illegal"drinking place did not have Ben Ainslie as a customer otherwise all would be ok.

andydixon says...
3:03pm Wed 19 Sep 12

I must be missing something here.
Was this place serving alcohol illegally or not?

jaylo says...
3:20pm Wed 19 Sep 12

so was it granted a licence to serve alchol ,but not planning permission for a bar???idiots

Dorset Logic says...
3:21pm Thu 20 Sep 12

This is a locals town for locals only

pete woodley says...
9:21pm Fri 21 Sep 12

Affluent locals,you mean.

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