UPDATED: Council gives go-ahead for new "superclub"

Bournemouth Echo: James Beedham, owner of V Club James Beedham, owner of V Club

A BID to merge two town centre nightspots into a “superclub” has been approved by Bournemouth's licensing committee.

V Club, which operates in the former St Andrew's Church in Exeter Road, will join with the Viper Lounge behind it to become one venue.

Operators are booking big name DJs and music acts to appear at the venue, in the hope of reinvigorating the night-time economy.

Dorset Police and environmental health had objected to the original application but worked with the applicants Vee Assets Ltd to agree a long list of conditions.

These include a requirement to have a welfare officer based in the nightclub to assist any vulnerable party-goers.

Local nightclub entrepreneur Richard Carr is a consultant for the two venues. A newly created walkway through an existing alley will link them up. 

The site is in the heart of Bournemouth’s “cumulative impact area”, which means councillors have to refuse new applications unless the applicants can demonstrate they will not cause additional problems.

Speaking before the bid was approved, town centre ward councillor David Smith said: “The last thing the town needs is any more large super-nightclubs.”

In a letter to the town’s licensing board, Gail Wade of Dorset Police stated the conditions currently offered by the applicants were “wholly inadequate.”

She added that, currently, 60 per cent of all alcohol related crime and 62 per cent of all non-domestic assaults in Bournemouth occur within the cumulative impact area.”

Lynn Barr, of Bournemouth Trading Standards, said they had concerns that merging the two premises could cause noise problems for nearby residents.

Resident Rachel Young wrote an objection, saying: “I have attended V on several occasions and I am very alarmed at the amount of drunk people on the streets outside the venue.

“I have witnessed many fights as well as people who are vulnerable and ill because of their considerable consumption of alcohol.”

Oliver Jones, the former club promoter and owner of Dusk Till Dawn, said: “There was a time when Bournemouth was rated as one of the top destinations for clubbing in the UK. If V can bring the big, exciting names they are talking about getting, it would draw the students and be exciting.

Restaurant entrepreneur Andy Price, owner of West Beach and The Print Room, said decisions made on clubs like this would determine Bournemouth’s future.

He said: “I have mixed feelings. It will bring potentially an Ibiza style feeling. I think we should aspire more to being the English Riviera.”

You have your say

Alice Cadman, 18, from Broadstone, said: “I go to V and I think it’s quite good. If it gets bigger it would be better. I always think of it as younger people whereas around Walkabout is for people in their 20s.”

Lucia Charlton, 31, a retail worker from the town centre, said: “We hear screaming and shouting until 3am or 4am.

“I understand a superclub will be for the younger people but I think the council and police need to be prepared for it.”

Scott Charlton, 34, a restaurant manager from the town centre, said: “I think it will be ok and hopefully will bring more business to the town centre. Everyone gets hungry and wants to eat and trade dies off after 9pm.”

Graham Smith, 69, a retired MD from Ferndown, said: “We don’t come into the town centre much at night. If you come to a panto with the grandchildren there’s swearing and trouble as you leave. I think a superclub might add to that atmosphere.”

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8:45am Thu 13 Sep 12

jeebuscripes says...

With the death of the high street in progress, the only real revenue to be gained in this area is through nightclubs, bars and restaurants.
With the death of the high street in progress, the only real revenue to be gained in this area is through nightclubs, bars and restaurants. jeebuscripes
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8:52am Thu 13 Sep 12

whataboutthat says...

Town centre ward councillor David Smith said: “The last thing the town needs is any more large super-nightclubs.

It's a town centre for heaven's sake

'Gail Wade of Dorset Police states the conditions currently offered by the applicants were “wholly inadequate.”'

Police deciding/interfering with market forces.

'merging the two premises could cause noise problems for nearby residents.' + 'Resident Rachel Young wrote an objection'

Don't rent/buy a home in the town centre. Did you not notice the pubs and clubs when you moved in?
Town centre ward councillor David Smith said: “The last thing the town needs is any more large super-nightclubs. It's a town centre for heaven's sake 'Gail Wade of Dorset Police states the conditions currently offered by the applicants were “wholly inadequate.”' Police deciding/interfering with market forces. 'merging the two premises could cause noise problems for nearby residents.' + 'Resident Rachel Young wrote an objection' Don't rent/buy a home in the town centre. Did you not notice the pubs and clubs when you moved in? whataboutthat
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8:54am Thu 13 Sep 12

Pablo23 says...

I can't see anything really wrong with it, but I thought the 'super club' & celebrity DJ culture and died out somewhat in the 90s.
Is it financially viable we must ask ourselves.
These days I prefer a village pub personally.
I can't see anything really wrong with it, but I thought the 'super club' & celebrity DJ culture and died out somewhat in the 90s. Is it financially viable we must ask ourselves. These days I prefer a village pub personally. Pablo23
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8:54am Thu 13 Sep 12

Huey says...

Actually “the last thing Bournemouth needs” is another surf reef I doubt the already nightclub-saturated town centre will notice two clubs become one big club.
Actually “the last thing Bournemouth needs” is another surf reef I doubt the already nightclub-saturated town centre will notice two clubs become one big club. Huey
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8:57am Thu 13 Sep 12

arsmith says...

How will more trouble be created?

The 2 clubs are already there, does a walkway = trouble?!
How will more trouble be created? The 2 clubs are already there, does a walkway = trouble?! arsmith
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8:59am Thu 13 Sep 12

The Liberal says...

Who in their right mind would choose to live in Bournemouth town centre? And as someone in the article said, taking young kids to the theatre there is pretty much a no-no. It's just a horrible, menacing atmosphere there at night.
Who in their right mind would choose to live in Bournemouth town centre? And as someone in the article said, taking young kids to the theatre there is pretty much a no-no. It's just a horrible, menacing atmosphere there at night. The Liberal
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9:04am Thu 13 Sep 12

Martin Caine says...

The objects are nonsense because there are already two venues there, so by merging the two into one you are in fact losing one of the many nightclubs, and creating one that will but much more easily manageable for all concerned. I would hate to have to count the number of hen and stag parties that now bring revenue to Bournemouth, not just for the clubs and hotels but for all the traders. If this scheme was to be refused I am sure it would be for all the wrong reasons!
The objects are nonsense because there are already two venues there, so by merging the two into one you are in fact losing one of the many nightclubs, and creating one that will but much more easily manageable for all concerned. I would hate to have to count the number of hen and stag parties that now bring revenue to Bournemouth, not just for the clubs and hotels but for all the traders. If this scheme was to be refused I am sure it would be for all the wrong reasons! Martin Caine
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9:22am Thu 13 Sep 12

andyjb10 says...

Two existing buildings operating as nightclubs to merge into one establishment shock horror.
Two existing buildings operating as nightclubs to merge into one establishment shock horror. andyjb10
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9:23am Thu 13 Sep 12

PooleParky says...

We had a Superclub in Nottingham... it was actually one that had less trouble and violence than the others. Because it was so big, there were various rooms with different music to cater for all tastes...

It might have been a co-incidence, but it seemed as though people went to their own room of preference and didn't clash as much as in other places....
We had a Superclub in Nottingham... it was actually one that had less trouble and violence than the others. Because it was so big, there were various rooms with different music to cater for all tastes... It might have been a co-incidence, but it seemed as though people went to their own room of preference and didn't clash as much as in other places.... PooleParky
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9:56am Thu 13 Sep 12

Mike Oxbig says...

jeebuscripes wrote:
With the death of the high street in progress, the only real revenue to be gained in this area is through nightclubs, bars and restaurants.
Spot on there.
[quote][p][bold]jeebuscripes[/bold] wrote: With the death of the high street in progress, the only real revenue to be gained in this area is through nightclubs, bars and restaurants.[/p][/quote]Spot on there. Mike Oxbig
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9:57am Thu 13 Sep 12

Humf says...

i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...
i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background... Humf
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10:23am Thu 13 Sep 12

nat-365 says...

arsmith wrote:
How will more trouble be created?

The 2 clubs are already there, does a walkway = trouble?!
now that is a fact and in my oppinion ,people congregating in the alleyway to smoke as they do now are a problem and a noise issue which this walkway will eliminate
as someone else commented ,what has this got to do with the police they are paid to police not to decide wether a business can make changes - thats what planning departments exist for . has no police officer ever used any of the clubs in bournemouth? yes of course they have . these clubs and whatever problems are being highlighted already exist - people want entertainment the town needs income ,nightlife earns more for the town than the daytime economy so we have to live with it ,most of the moaners on here never go into town at night and if the town got rid of ALL the clubs pubs and bars they still wouldnt because it wouldnt be viable to staff anything else and it would be a lonely existance even for a saddo !!
[quote][p][bold]arsmith[/bold] wrote: How will more trouble be created? The 2 clubs are already there, does a walkway = trouble?![/p][/quote]now that is a fact and in my oppinion ,people congregating in the alleyway to smoke as they do now are a problem and a noise issue which this walkway will eliminate as someone else commented ,what has this got to do with the police they are paid to police not to decide wether a business can make changes - thats what planning departments exist for . has no police officer ever used any of the clubs in bournemouth? yes of course they have . these clubs and whatever problems are being highlighted already exist - people want entertainment the town needs income ,nightlife earns more for the town than the daytime economy so we have to live with it ,most of the moaners on here never go into town at night and if the town got rid of ALL the clubs pubs and bars they still wouldnt because it wouldnt be viable to staff anything else and it would be a lonely existance even for a saddo !! nat-365
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10:26am Thu 13 Sep 12

KLH says...

As a resident of the town centre, there are also people who have lived here for a good few decades, older people, and these people don't need the "don't live in the town centre if you don't like it" attitude. These people were here FIRST.

Hope the board see sense on this one with a big NO.
As a resident of the town centre, there are also people who have lived here for a good few decades, older people, and these people don't need the "don't live in the town centre if you don't like it" attitude. These people were here FIRST. Hope the board see sense on this one with a big NO. KLH
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10:29am Thu 13 Sep 12

nat-365 says...

KLH wrote:
As a resident of the town centre, there are also people who have lived here for a good few decades, older people, and these people don't need the "don't live in the town centre if you don't like it" attitude. These people were here FIRST.

Hope the board see sense on this one with a big NO.
you live there and havent noticed that this club is already there and has been for ages ??? who are you Stevie Wonder
[quote][p][bold]KLH[/bold] wrote: As a resident of the town centre, there are also people who have lived here for a good few decades, older people, and these people don't need the "don't live in the town centre if you don't like it" attitude. These people were here FIRST. Hope the board see sense on this one with a big NO.[/p][/quote]you live there and havent noticed that this club is already there and has been for ages ??? who are you Stevie Wonder nat-365
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10:41am Thu 13 Sep 12

Old Harry says...

You have to give it to Richard Carr, he has never given up on the conurbation. I only hope he gives back as much as he takes.
You have to give it to Richard Carr, he has never given up on the conurbation. I only hope he gives back as much as he takes. Old Harry
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10:44am Thu 13 Sep 12

Say-it-how-it-is says...

Humf wrote:
i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...
Oh you no him to well. I think everyone who was in the clubbing world back in the day, no what he's like. I thought he ran out of money.
[quote][p][bold]Humf[/bold] wrote: i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...[/p][/quote]Oh you no him to well. I think everyone who was in the clubbing world back in the day, no what he's like. I thought he ran out of money. Say-it-how-it-is
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10:49am Thu 13 Sep 12

Say-it-how-it-is says...

KLH wrote:
As a resident of the town centre, there are also people who have lived here for a good few decades, older people, and these people don't need the "don't live in the town centre if you don't like it" attitude. These people were here FIRST.

Hope the board see sense on this one with a big NO.
Night clubs have been in Bournemouth for years now. They haven't just popped up over night. I was told by my Mum's friend who is 70, that she use to go clubbing in Bournemouth back then. That was the only place to have fun back then.
[quote][p][bold]KLH[/bold] wrote: As a resident of the town centre, there are also people who have lived here for a good few decades, older people, and these people don't need the "don't live in the town centre if you don't like it" attitude. These people were here FIRST. Hope the board see sense on this one with a big NO.[/p][/quote]Night clubs have been in Bournemouth for years now. They haven't just popped up over night. I was told by my Mum's friend who is 70, that she use to go clubbing in Bournemouth back then. That was the only place to have fun back then. Say-it-how-it-is
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10:53am Thu 13 Sep 12

nat-365 says...

Say-it-how-it-is wrote:
Humf wrote:
i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...
Oh you no him to well. I think everyone who was in the clubbing world back in the day, no what he's like. I thought he ran out of money.
are you being ironic or are you just naive - Carr aint the first ,and wont be the last . like it or not he is a better businessman than some in this town and if you are going to make money you have to be a bit ruthless ,its that simple .i dont think he seeks anyones approval
[quote][p][bold]Say-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Humf[/bold] wrote: i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...[/p][/quote]Oh you no him to well. I think everyone who was in the clubbing world back in the day, no what he's like. I thought he ran out of money.[/p][/quote]are you being ironic or are you just naive - Carr aint the first ,and wont be the last . like it or not he is a better businessman than some in this town and if you are going to make money you have to be a bit ruthless ,its that simple .i dont think he seeks anyones approval nat-365
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10:57am Thu 13 Sep 12

Martin Caine says...

KLH wrote:
As a resident of the town centre, there are also people who have lived here for a good few decades, older people, and these people don't need the "don't live in the town centre if you don't like it" attitude. These people were here FIRST.

Hope the board see sense on this one with a big NO.
I hope you see sense and work out that merging two clubs into one reduces the number of clubs in Bournemouth, which surely has to be in improvement in your eyes ?
[quote][p][bold]KLH[/bold] wrote: As a resident of the town centre, there are also people who have lived here for a good few decades, older people, and these people don't need the "don't live in the town centre if you don't like it" attitude. These people were here FIRST. Hope the board see sense on this one with a big NO.[/p][/quote]I hope you see sense and work out that merging two clubs into one reduces the number of clubs in Bournemouth, which surely has to be in improvement in your eyes ? Martin Caine
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11:26am Thu 13 Sep 12

whataboutthat says...

KLH wrote:
As a resident of the town centre, there are also people who have lived here for a good few decades, older people, and these people don't need the "don't live in the town centre if you don't like it" attitude. These people were here FIRST.

Hope the board see sense on this one with a big NO.
Move.
[quote][p][bold]KLH[/bold] wrote: As a resident of the town centre, there are also people who have lived here for a good few decades, older people, and these people don't need the "don't live in the town centre if you don't like it" attitude. These people were here FIRST. Hope the board see sense on this one with a big NO.[/p][/quote]Move. whataboutthat
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11:46am Thu 13 Sep 12

twenty says...

As many others have said; the two venues are already there and operating, so it's hardly going to make much difference!

In fact, the proposed idea has more positive factors than negative from where I'm standing. Bigger venues can afford to have better artists performing, which means people are more likely to visit the club for the music, not just to get drunk.

The only reason I'd go there is if there was an artist/DJ playing who I was interested in. And at the moment that doesn't happen because all they seem to ever have is RnB nights and Hed Kandi nights! But as it currently stands, you will find me a few doors down in Moon in the Square binge drinking on cheap alcohol. Long live wetherspoons!
As many others have said; the two venues are already there and operating, so it's hardly going to make much difference! In fact, the proposed idea has more positive factors than negative from where I'm standing. Bigger venues can afford to have better artists performing, which means people are more likely to visit the club for the music, not just to get drunk. The only reason I'd go there is if there was an artist/DJ playing who I was interested in. And at the moment that doesn't happen because all they seem to ever have is RnB nights and Hed Kandi nights! But as it currently stands, you will find me a few doors down in Moon in the Square binge drinking on cheap alcohol. Long live wetherspoons! twenty
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11:48am Thu 13 Sep 12

Say-it-how-it-is says...

nat-365 wrote:
Say-it-how-it-is wrote:
Humf wrote:
i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...
Oh you no him to well. I think everyone who was in the clubbing world back in the day, no what he's like. I thought he ran out of money.
are you being ironic or are you just naive - Carr aint the first ,and wont be the last . like it or not he is a better businessman than some in this town and if you are going to make money you have to be a bit ruthless ,its that simple .i dont think he seeks anyones approval
No not being ironic nor naive. I know carr all to well. How he almost destroyed the opera house in boscombe. And the smaller bars in Poole quay. Just let them go to ruin.
[quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Say-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Humf[/bold] wrote: i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...[/p][/quote]Oh you no him to well. I think everyone who was in the clubbing world back in the day, no what he's like. I thought he ran out of money.[/p][/quote]are you being ironic or are you just naive - Carr aint the first ,and wont be the last . like it or not he is a better businessman than some in this town and if you are going to make money you have to be a bit ruthless ,its that simple .i dont think he seeks anyones approval[/p][/quote]No not being ironic nor naive. I know carr all to well. How he almost destroyed the opera house in boscombe. And the smaller bars in Poole quay. Just let them go to ruin. Say-it-how-it-is
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12:21pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Liberty12 says...

I like most people commenting think it's a good idea. As people have said, there are two clubs there already so all I can see at the moment are positives. Like it or not, we are now a popular area for stag and hen do's which do bring money into the town and this 'Super Club' would be able to accomodate them very well. Perhaps may stop so much movement between clubs which could create anti social behaviour. If I remeber rightly Laver Ignite used to be two smaller cubs (Clouds & something else) it was then made into one club. When I used to go to town, the place was called the Cage & Zoo and it was a really good club with different rooms for different music. We used to go there and stay there all night. For the record, if you live in a Town Centre you can definately expect some noise and this idea is not going to change that.
I like most people commenting think it's a good idea. As people have said, there are two clubs there already so all I can see at the moment are positives. Like it or not, we are now a popular area for stag and hen do's which do bring money into the town and this 'Super Club' would be able to accomodate them very well. Perhaps may stop so much movement between clubs which could create anti social behaviour. If I remeber rightly Laver Ignite used to be two smaller cubs (Clouds & something else) it was then made into one club. When I used to go to town, the place was called the Cage & Zoo and it was a really good club with different rooms for different music. We used to go there and stay there all night. For the record, if you live in a Town Centre you can definately expect some noise and this idea is not going to change that. Liberty12
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12:30pm Thu 13 Sep 12

tricky1007 says...

whataboutthat wrote:
Town centre ward councillor David Smith said: “The last thing the town needs is any more large super-nightclubs.

It's a town centre for heaven's sake

'Gail Wade of Dorset Police states the conditions currently offered by the applicants were “wholly inadequate.”'

Police deciding/interfering with market forces.

'merging the two premises could cause noise problems for nearby residents.' + 'Resident Rachel Young wrote an objection'

Don't rent/buy a home in the town centre. Did you not notice the pubs and clubs when you moved in?
V used to be a church! so they probably did not see the club. People don't mind the clubs its the anti social behaviour that goes along with it. If they do attract big names they will go the same way as all the other clubs that tried it, they will go bust. And i though Richard Carr was recently going on about the town needing more entertainment rather than just bars and clubs?!!
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: Town centre ward councillor David Smith said: “The last thing the town needs is any more large super-nightclubs. It's a town centre for heaven's sake 'Gail Wade of Dorset Police states the conditions currently offered by the applicants were “wholly inadequate.”' Police deciding/interfering with market forces. 'merging the two premises could cause noise problems for nearby residents.' + 'Resident Rachel Young wrote an objection' Don't rent/buy a home in the town centre. Did you not notice the pubs and clubs when you moved in?[/p][/quote]V used to be a church! so they probably did not see the club. People don't mind the clubs its the anti social behaviour that goes along with it. If they do attract big names they will go the same way as all the other clubs that tried it, they will go bust. And i though Richard Carr was recently going on about the town needing more entertainment rather than just bars and clubs?!! tricky1007
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12:30pm Thu 13 Sep 12

tricky1007 says...

whataboutthat wrote:
Town centre ward councillor David Smith said: “The last thing the town needs is any more large super-nightclubs.

It's a town centre for heaven's sake

'Gail Wade of Dorset Police states the conditions currently offered by the applicants were “wholly inadequate.”'

Police deciding/interfering with market forces.

'merging the two premises could cause noise problems for nearby residents.' + 'Resident Rachel Young wrote an objection'

Don't rent/buy a home in the town centre. Did you not notice the pubs and clubs when you moved in?
V used to be a church! so they probably did not see the club. People don't mind the clubs its the anti social behaviour that goes along with it. If they do attract big names they will go the same way as all the other clubs that tried it, they will go bust. And i though Richard Carr was recently going on about the town needing more entertainment rather than just bars and clubs?!!
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: Town centre ward councillor David Smith said: “The last thing the town needs is any more large super-nightclubs. It's a town centre for heaven's sake 'Gail Wade of Dorset Police states the conditions currently offered by the applicants were “wholly inadequate.”' Police deciding/interfering with market forces. 'merging the two premises could cause noise problems for nearby residents.' + 'Resident Rachel Young wrote an objection' Don't rent/buy a home in the town centre. Did you not notice the pubs and clubs when you moved in?[/p][/quote]V used to be a church! so they probably did not see the club. People don't mind the clubs its the anti social behaviour that goes along with it. If they do attract big names they will go the same way as all the other clubs that tried it, they will go bust. And i though Richard Carr was recently going on about the town needing more entertainment rather than just bars and clubs?!! tricky1007
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12:33pm Thu 13 Sep 12

BmthNewshound says...

The council needs to make its mind up, does it want a nightime economy or not. On one hand they blow their own trumpet and accept awards (purple flag) for a well managed nightime economy on the other they seem to loathe its very existence.
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The licence isn't to open a new club just merge the two together. If the council was happy to licences for the existing clubs its very difficult to see how they can justify refusing the new application. But then again this is Bournemouth where Councillors rarely make decisions based on common sense.
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Like him or loathe him when it comes to running clubs and bars Richard Carr knows his stuff. When they first opened his bars set new standards and helped to generate a lot of money for the local economy. He's also had experience of dealing with Bournemouth's incompetent and irrational Councillors.
The council needs to make its mind up, does it want a nightime economy or not. On one hand they blow their own trumpet and accept awards (purple flag) for a well managed nightime economy on the other they seem to loathe its very existence. . The licence isn't to open a new club just merge the two together. If the council was happy to licences for the existing clubs its very difficult to see how they can justify refusing the new application. But then again this is Bournemouth where Councillors rarely make decisions based on common sense. . Like him or loathe him when it comes to running clubs and bars Richard Carr knows his stuff. When they first opened his bars set new standards and helped to generate a lot of money for the local economy. He's also had experience of dealing with Bournemouth's incompetent and irrational Councillors. BmthNewshound
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12:34pm Thu 13 Sep 12

nat-365 says...

Say-it-how-it-is wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Say-it-how-it-is wrote:
Humf wrote:
i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...
Oh you no him to well. I think everyone who was in the clubbing world back in the day, no what he's like. I thought he ran out of money.
are you being ironic or are you just naive - Carr aint the first ,and wont be the last . like it or not he is a better businessman than some in this town and if you are going to make money you have to be a bit ruthless ,its that simple .i dont think he seeks anyones approval
No not being ironic nor naive. I know carr all to well. How he almost destroyed the opera house in boscombe. And the smaller bars in Poole quay. Just let them go to ruin.
on the contrary he was the pioneer for contemporary Bournemouth nightlife,not always successful but at least put his or the banks money where his mouth was or this town would still be stuck in the jimmy saville era - the opera house pre-Carr was a dump he at least had a go is still on the ball and he will likely always be involved here , i am sure he isnt trying to win a popularity contest but do you think he cares how other people percieve him after all its their money in his pocket ,i think he smiles more than he frowns . am i in his fan club ? no,but i think that if you stick your jaw out and it gets the occassional smack but you still come back for more sooner or later you will be a worthy winner .
oh so you know Carr all to well do you ? another one !! you probably dont even know his middle name and he 'almost destroyed .......' ,did he ??
hitler almost won world war two ,richard branson almost flew around the world in a hot air ballon ,100s of people almost climb mount everest each year - 'almost' is not - job done . critism for the sake of it is very shortsited and a little bit nasty - envy is not a nice quality in an adult
[quote][p][bold]Say-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Say-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Humf[/bold] wrote: i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...[/p][/quote]Oh you no him to well. I think everyone who was in the clubbing world back in the day, no what he's like. I thought he ran out of money.[/p][/quote]are you being ironic or are you just naive - Carr aint the first ,and wont be the last . like it or not he is a better businessman than some in this town and if you are going to make money you have to be a bit ruthless ,its that simple .i dont think he seeks anyones approval[/p][/quote]No not being ironic nor naive. I know carr all to well. How he almost destroyed the opera house in boscombe. And the smaller bars in Poole quay. Just let them go to ruin.[/p][/quote]on the contrary he was the pioneer for contemporary Bournemouth nightlife,not always successful but at least put his or the banks money where his mouth was or this town would still be stuck in the jimmy saville era - the opera house pre-Carr was a dump he at least had a go is still on the ball and he will likely always be involved here , i am sure he isnt trying to win a popularity contest but do you think he cares how other people percieve him after all its their money in his pocket ,i think he smiles more than he frowns . am i in his fan club ? no,but i think that if you stick your jaw out and it gets the occassional smack but you still come back for more sooner or later you will be a worthy winner . oh so you know Carr all to well do you ? another one !! you probably dont even know his middle name and he 'almost destroyed .......' ,did he ?? hitler almost won world war two ,richard branson almost flew around the world in a hot air ballon ,100s of people almost climb mount everest each year - 'almost' is not - job done . critism for the sake of it is very shortsited and a little bit nasty - envy is not a nice quality in an adult nat-365
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12:38pm Thu 13 Sep 12

tricky1007 says...

twenty wrote:
As many others have said; the two venues are already there and operating, so it's hardly going to make much difference!

In fact, the proposed idea has more positive factors than negative from where I'm standing. Bigger venues can afford to have better artists performing, which means people are more likely to visit the club for the music, not just to get drunk.

The only reason I'd go there is if there was an artist/DJ playing who I was interested in. And at the moment that doesn't happen because all they seem to ever have is RnB nights and Hed Kandi nights! But as it currently stands, you will find me a few doors down in Moon in the Square binge drinking on cheap alcohol. Long live wetherspoons!
They will have to charge a big ticket price, and then to get people in will have to do drinks at the usual silly prices. Bars in town take no more money now than when they used to close earlier. People drink at home and come out drunk, then head to the cheap bars, and then on to somewhere that is busy, but charge to get in, Staffing levels are down in the bars compared to years ago, i am all for bars in town, but lets start charging sensible drink prices, as people are to stupid to control how much they drink, or maybe we should start charging people who need hospital treatment through to much alcohol, then it would be fair to say they are helping with the economy, because the money they spend in a bar, goes nowhere near to covering there treatment!
[quote][p][bold]twenty[/bold] wrote: As many others have said; the two venues are already there and operating, so it's hardly going to make much difference! In fact, the proposed idea has more positive factors than negative from where I'm standing. Bigger venues can afford to have better artists performing, which means people are more likely to visit the club for the music, not just to get drunk. The only reason I'd go there is if there was an artist/DJ playing who I was interested in. And at the moment that doesn't happen because all they seem to ever have is RnB nights and Hed Kandi nights! But as it currently stands, you will find me a few doors down in Moon in the Square binge drinking on cheap alcohol. Long live wetherspoons![/p][/quote]They will have to charge a big ticket price, and then to get people in will have to do drinks at the usual silly prices. Bars in town take no more money now than when they used to close earlier. People drink at home and come out drunk, then head to the cheap bars, and then on to somewhere that is busy, but charge to get in, Staffing levels are down in the bars compared to years ago, i am all for bars in town, but lets start charging sensible drink prices, as people are to stupid to control how much they drink, or maybe we should start charging people who need hospital treatment through to much alcohol, then it would be fair to say they are helping with the economy, because the money they spend in a bar, goes nowhere near to covering there treatment! tricky1007
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12:48pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Say-it-how-it-is says...

tricky1007 wrote:
twenty wrote:
As many others have said; the two venues are already there and operating, so it's hardly going to make much difference!

In fact, the proposed idea has more positive factors than negative from where I'm standing. Bigger venues can afford to have better artists performing, which means people are more likely to visit the club for the music, not just to get drunk.

The only reason I'd go there is if there was an artist/DJ playing who I was interested in. And at the moment that doesn't happen because all they seem to ever have is RnB nights and Hed Kandi nights! But as it currently stands, you will find me a few doors down in Moon in the Square binge drinking on cheap alcohol. Long live wetherspoons!
They will have to charge a big ticket price, and then to get people in will have to do drinks at the usual silly prices. Bars in town take no more money now than when they used to close earlier. People drink at home and come out drunk, then head to the cheap bars, and then on to somewhere that is busy, but charge to get in, Staffing levels are down in the bars compared to years ago, i am all for bars in town, but lets start charging sensible drink prices, as people are to stupid to control how much they drink, or maybe we should start charging people who need hospital treatment through to much alcohol, then it would be fair to say they are helping with the economy, because the money they spend in a bar, goes nowhere near to covering there treatment!
Well said trick. It would help the NSH service if they did pay for their treatment. I get so annoyed when they get so drunk and are a right mess at the end of the night. Clubs have really bin and gone now. The last time I went out was years ago. And all they play is R&B now. Bars are a lot better now. And should charge a sensible price for drinks.
[quote][p][bold]tricky1007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]twenty[/bold] wrote: As many others have said; the two venues are already there and operating, so it's hardly going to make much difference! In fact, the proposed idea has more positive factors than negative from where I'm standing. Bigger venues can afford to have better artists performing, which means people are more likely to visit the club for the music, not just to get drunk. The only reason I'd go there is if there was an artist/DJ playing who I was interested in. And at the moment that doesn't happen because all they seem to ever have is RnB nights and Hed Kandi nights! But as it currently stands, you will find me a few doors down in Moon in the Square binge drinking on cheap alcohol. Long live wetherspoons![/p][/quote]They will have to charge a big ticket price, and then to get people in will have to do drinks at the usual silly prices. Bars in town take no more money now than when they used to close earlier. People drink at home and come out drunk, then head to the cheap bars, and then on to somewhere that is busy, but charge to get in, Staffing levels are down in the bars compared to years ago, i am all for bars in town, but lets start charging sensible drink prices, as people are to stupid to control how much they drink, or maybe we should start charging people who need hospital treatment through to much alcohol, then it would be fair to say they are helping with the economy, because the money they spend in a bar, goes nowhere near to covering there treatment![/p][/quote]Well said trick. It would help the NSH service if they did pay for their treatment. I get so annoyed when they get so drunk and are a right mess at the end of the night. Clubs have really bin and gone now. The last time I went out was years ago. And all they play is R&B now. Bars are a lot better now. And should charge a sensible price for drinks. Say-it-how-it-is
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12:58pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Talkingheadera says...

Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons. Talkingheadera
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1:29pm Thu 13 Sep 12

whataboutthat says...

Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.
[quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you. whataboutthat
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1:32pm Thu 13 Sep 12

nat-365 says...

Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
So what - yes we all know ,you dont have priviledged information , does anyone actually care ,we aint the tax man - who appointed you director of morals for bournemouth then ? most of the goons on the council beat Carr hands down for wriggling - big deal !
[quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]So what - yes we all know ,you dont have priviledged information , does anyone actually care ,we aint the tax man - who appointed you director of morals for bournemouth then ? most of the goons on the council beat Carr hands down for wriggling - big deal ! nat-365
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1:42pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Humf says...

nat-365 wrote:
Say-it-how-it-is wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Say-it-how-it-is wrote:
Humf wrote:
i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...
Oh you no him to well. I think everyone who was in the clubbing world back in the day, no what he's like. I thought he ran out of money.
are you being ironic or are you just naive - Carr aint the first ,and wont be the last . like it or not he is a better businessman than some in this town and if you are going to make money you have to be a bit ruthless ,its that simple .i dont think he seeks anyones approval
No not being ironic nor naive. I know carr all to well. How he almost destroyed the opera house in boscombe. And the smaller bars in Poole quay. Just let them go to ruin.
on the contrary he was the pioneer for contemporary Bournemouth nightlife,not always successful but at least put his or the banks money where his mouth was or this town would still be stuck in the jimmy saville era - the opera house pre-Carr was a dump he at least had a go is still on the ball and he will likely always be involved here , i am sure he isnt trying to win a popularity contest but do you think he cares how other people percieve him after all its their money in his pocket ,i think he smiles more than he frowns . am i in his fan club ? no,but i think that if you stick your jaw out and it gets the occassional smack but you still come back for more sooner or later you will be a worthy winner .
oh so you know Carr all to well do you ? another one !! you probably dont even know his middle name and he 'almost destroyed .......' ,did he ??
hitler almost won world war two ,richard branson almost flew around the world in a hot air ballon ,100s of people almost climb mount everest each year - 'almost' is not - job done . critism for the sake of it is very shortsited and a little bit nasty - envy is not a nice quality in an adult
I agree that some of his ventures were successful and good for Bournemouth and the surrounding area but I don't think that any of the creditors left high and dry would be so keen to applaud.

What i think annoys alot of people is that Richard is banned from being a director and, whilst he can do what he likes with his own money, he now working again and I'm sure most would question what his role is in this and other ventures where he is supposedly a consultant.

It has nothing to do with envy or not knowing him personally but about what has gone on in the past and the fact that he seems to have had a nice break and carrying on regardless of what went on with Future 3000 and the other companies he was involved with.

And I quote from the Echo :

"Future 3000 has 523 potential unsecured creditors, mainly trade suppliers, who are owed a total of £1.8m. They are not expected to see any of their money."
[quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Say-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Say-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Humf[/bold] wrote: i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...[/p][/quote]Oh you no him to well. I think everyone who was in the clubbing world back in the day, no what he's like. I thought he ran out of money.[/p][/quote]are you being ironic or are you just naive - Carr aint the first ,and wont be the last . like it or not he is a better businessman than some in this town and if you are going to make money you have to be a bit ruthless ,its that simple .i dont think he seeks anyones approval[/p][/quote]No not being ironic nor naive. I know carr all to well. How he almost destroyed the opera house in boscombe. And the smaller bars in Poole quay. Just let them go to ruin.[/p][/quote]on the contrary he was the pioneer for contemporary Bournemouth nightlife,not always successful but at least put his or the banks money where his mouth was or this town would still be stuck in the jimmy saville era - the opera house pre-Carr was a dump he at least had a go is still on the ball and he will likely always be involved here , i am sure he isnt trying to win a popularity contest but do you think he cares how other people percieve him after all its their money in his pocket ,i think he smiles more than he frowns . am i in his fan club ? no,but i think that if you stick your jaw out and it gets the occassional smack but you still come back for more sooner or later you will be a worthy winner . oh so you know Carr all to well do you ? another one !! you probably dont even know his middle name and he 'almost destroyed .......' ,did he ?? hitler almost won world war two ,richard branson almost flew around the world in a hot air ballon ,100s of people almost climb mount everest each year - 'almost' is not - job done . critism for the sake of it is very shortsited and a little bit nasty - envy is not a nice quality in an adult[/p][/quote]I agree that some of his ventures were successful and good for Bournemouth and the surrounding area but I don't think that any of the creditors left high and dry would be so keen to applaud. What i think annoys alot of people is that Richard is banned from being a director and, whilst he can do what he likes with his own money, he now working again and I'm sure most would question what his role is in this and other ventures where he is supposedly a consultant. It has nothing to do with envy or not knowing him personally but about what has gone on in the past and the fact that he seems to have had a nice break and carrying on regardless of what went on with Future 3000 and the other companies he was involved with. And I quote from the Echo : "Future 3000 has 523 potential unsecured creditors, mainly trade suppliers, who are owed a total of £1.8m. They are not expected to see any of their money." Humf
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1:59pm Thu 13 Sep 12

nat-365 says...

Humf wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Say-it-how-it-is wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Say-it-how-it-is wrote:
Humf wrote:
i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...
Oh you no him to well. I think everyone who was in the clubbing world back in the day, no what he's like. I thought he ran out of money.
are you being ironic or are you just naive - Carr aint the first ,and wont be the last . like it or not he is a better businessman than some in this town and if you are going to make money you have to be a bit ruthless ,its that simple .i dont think he seeks anyones approval
No not being ironic nor naive. I know carr all to well. How he almost destroyed the opera house in boscombe. And the smaller bars in Poole quay. Just let them go to ruin.
on the contrary he was the pioneer for contemporary Bournemouth nightlife,not always successful but at least put his or the banks money where his mouth was or this town would still be stuck in the jimmy saville era - the opera house pre-Carr was a dump he at least had a go is still on the ball and he will likely always be involved here , i am sure he isnt trying to win a popularity contest but do you think he cares how other people percieve him after all its their money in his pocket ,i think he smiles more than he frowns . am i in his fan club ? no,but i think that if you stick your jaw out and it gets the occassional smack but you still come back for more sooner or later you will be a worthy winner .
oh so you know Carr all to well do you ? another one !! you probably dont even know his middle name and he 'almost destroyed .......' ,did he ??
hitler almost won world war two ,richard branson almost flew around the world in a hot air ballon ,100s of people almost climb mount everest each year - 'almost' is not - job done . critism for the sake of it is very shortsited and a little bit nasty - envy is not a nice quality in an adult
I agree that some of his ventures were successful and good for Bournemouth and the surrounding area but I don't think that any of the creditors left high and dry would be so keen to applaud.

What i think annoys alot of people is that Richard is banned from being a director and, whilst he can do what he likes with his own money, he now working again and I'm sure most would question what his role is in this and other ventures where he is supposedly a consultant.

It has nothing to do with envy or not knowing him personally but about what has gone on in the past and the fact that he seems to have had a nice break and carrying on regardless of what went on with Future 3000 and the other companies he was involved with.

And I quote from the Echo :

"Future 3000 has 523 potential unsecured creditors, mainly trade suppliers, who are owed a total of £1.8m. They are not expected to see any of their money."
and I can asure you he isnt the worst of them - creditors never complain when they are earning from him , impose credit limits instead of letting greed rule your head
[quote][p][bold]Humf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Say-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Say-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Humf[/bold] wrote: i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...[/p][/quote]Oh you no him to well. I think everyone who was in the clubbing world back in the day, no what he's like. I thought he ran out of money.[/p][/quote]are you being ironic or are you just naive - Carr aint the first ,and wont be the last . like it or not he is a better businessman than some in this town and if you are going to make money you have to be a bit ruthless ,its that simple .i dont think he seeks anyones approval[/p][/quote]No not being ironic nor naive. I know carr all to well. How he almost destroyed the opera house in boscombe. And the smaller bars in Poole quay. Just let them go to ruin.[/p][/quote]on the contrary he was the pioneer for contemporary Bournemouth nightlife,not always successful but at least put his or the banks money where his mouth was or this town would still be stuck in the jimmy saville era - the opera house pre-Carr was a dump he at least had a go is still on the ball and he will likely always be involved here , i am sure he isnt trying to win a popularity contest but do you think he cares how other people percieve him after all its their money in his pocket ,i think he smiles more than he frowns . am i in his fan club ? no,but i think that if you stick your jaw out and it gets the occassional smack but you still come back for more sooner or later you will be a worthy winner . oh so you know Carr all to well do you ? another one !! you probably dont even know his middle name and he 'almost destroyed .......' ,did he ?? hitler almost won world war two ,richard branson almost flew around the world in a hot air ballon ,100s of people almost climb mount everest each year - 'almost' is not - job done . critism for the sake of it is very shortsited and a little bit nasty - envy is not a nice quality in an adult[/p][/quote]I agree that some of his ventures were successful and good for Bournemouth and the surrounding area but I don't think that any of the creditors left high and dry would be so keen to applaud. What i think annoys alot of people is that Richard is banned from being a director and, whilst he can do what he likes with his own money, he now working again and I'm sure most would question what his role is in this and other ventures where he is supposedly a consultant. It has nothing to do with envy or not knowing him personally but about what has gone on in the past and the fact that he seems to have had a nice break and carrying on regardless of what went on with Future 3000 and the other companies he was involved with. And I quote from the Echo : "Future 3000 has 523 potential unsecured creditors, mainly trade suppliers, who are owed a total of £1.8m. They are not expected to see any of their money."[/p][/quote]and I can asure you he isnt the worst of them - creditors never complain when they are earning from him , impose credit limits instead of letting greed rule your head nat-365
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2:11pm Thu 13 Sep 12

nat-365 says...

like it or not it was approved - so critise all you like Richard Carr wins the day
like it or not it was approved - so critise all you like Richard Carr wins the day nat-365
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2:38pm Thu 13 Sep 12

billythereb says...

lets put this in perspective,messers Carr & Co (Consultant!) Nooooo what a fabrication.
purely for tax reasons eh!
i wonder how many palms the grease monkey stroked to make this happen!

it wasnt so long ago it was reported that the stone architecture of the old church was not deemed safe regarding thumpy thumpy music anyway.
but hey Money can overide anything in the world of business,phaps!
Bournemouth is busy enough without folk wanting more , and may i say the stench of **** & sick when i go to work at 7am is not very nice
lets put this in perspective,messers Carr & Co (Consultant!) Nooooo what a fabrication. purely for tax reasons eh! i wonder how many palms the grease monkey stroked to make this happen! it wasnt so long ago it was reported that the stone architecture of the old church was not deemed safe regarding thumpy thumpy music anyway. but hey Money can overide anything in the world of business,phaps! Bournemouth is busy enough without folk wanting more , and may i say the stench of **** & sick when i go to work at 7am is not very nice billythereb
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3:02pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Martinesque says...

whataboutthat wrote:
Town centre ward councillor David Smith said: “The last thing the town needs is any more large super-nightclubs. It's a town centre for heaven's sake 'Gail Wade of Dorset Police states the conditions currently offered by the applicants were “wholly inadequate.”' Police deciding/interfering with market forces. 'merging the two premises could cause noise problems for nearby residents.' + 'Resident Rachel Young wrote an objection' Don't rent/buy a home in the town centre. Did you not notice the pubs and clubs when you moved in?
Are you Richard Carr in disguise?
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: Town centre ward councillor David Smith said: “The last thing the town needs is any more large super-nightclubs. It's a town centre for heaven's sake 'Gail Wade of Dorset Police states the conditions currently offered by the applicants were “wholly inadequate.”' Police deciding/interfering with market forces. 'merging the two premises could cause noise problems for nearby residents.' + 'Resident Rachel Young wrote an objection' Don't rent/buy a home in the town centre. Did you not notice the pubs and clubs when you moved in?[/p][/quote]Are you Richard Carr in disguise? Martinesque
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3:59pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Redgolfer00 says...

Say-it-how-it-is wrote:
Humf wrote:
i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...
Oh you no him to well. I think everyone who was in the clubbing world back in the day, no what he's like. I thought he ran out of money.
He aint ran out of money, who interviewed the staff at V before they opened, why was the manager who was employed at Crank, which Mr. Carr owned before, install as the manager at V.
No Mr. Carr still has his money but even a declared bankcrupt still has ways and means, look at our Eddie.
[quote][p][bold]Say-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Humf[/bold] wrote: i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...[/p][/quote]Oh you no him to well. I think everyone who was in the clubbing world back in the day, no what he's like. I thought he ran out of money.[/p][/quote]He aint ran out of money, who interviewed the staff at V before they opened, why was the manager who was employed at Crank, which Mr. Carr owned before, install as the manager at V. No Mr. Carr still has his money but even a declared bankcrupt still has ways and means, look at our Eddie. Redgolfer00
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4:13pm Thu 13 Sep 12

oneshortleg says...

I see the FOG has come back again!
I see the FOG has come back again! oneshortleg
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4:20pm Thu 13 Sep 12

O'Reilly says...

Pablo23 wrote:
I can't see anything really wrong with it, but I thought the 'super club' & celebrity DJ culture and died out somewhat in the 90s.
Is it financially viable we must ask ourselves.
These days I prefer a village pub personally.
Are they any left Pablo? I find them a bit thin on the ground when I'm out and about.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo23[/bold] wrote: I can't see anything really wrong with it, but I thought the 'super club' & celebrity DJ culture and died out somewhat in the 90s. Is it financially viable we must ask ourselves. These days I prefer a village pub personally.[/p][/quote]Are they any left Pablo? I find them a bit thin on the ground when I'm out and about. O'Reilly
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4:24pm Thu 13 Sep 12

ekimnoslen says...

Absolutely, yes, yes, yes! What Bournemouth needs is more nightclubs, more booze licences, longer drinking hours, more stag & hen "vomit-ups" and late night punch-ups.
You may have ascertained by now that I have moved elsewhere!
Absolutely, yes, yes, yes! What Bournemouth needs is more nightclubs, more booze licences, longer drinking hours, more stag & hen "vomit-ups" and late night punch-ups. You may have ascertained by now that I have moved elsewhere! ekimnoslen
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4:35pm Thu 13 Sep 12

robsmith123 says...

ekimnoslen wrote:
Absolutely, yes, yes, yes! What Bournemouth needs is more nightclubs, more booze licences, longer drinking hours, more stag & hen "vomit-ups" and late night punch-ups.
You may have ascertained by now that I have moved elsewhere!
we also need a theme park based on camels and bechemal sauce.

bechemal is great as it can be spelt in two different ways, as can spelt.

whoop !!!!
[quote][p][bold]ekimnoslen[/bold] wrote: Absolutely, yes, yes, yes! What Bournemouth needs is more nightclubs, more booze licences, longer drinking hours, more stag & hen "vomit-ups" and late night punch-ups. You may have ascertained by now that I have moved elsewhere![/p][/quote]we also need a theme park based on camels and bechemal sauce. bechemal is great as it can be spelt in two different ways, as can spelt. whoop !!!! robsmith123
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5:06pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Azphreal says...

So the police,ward counsellor and the licencing all said they were unhappy about it but it goes ahead anyway. Thought we keep getting told how the 'nightime economy' is booming so why now do we get 'hope of reinvigorating the night-time economy'?
So the police,ward counsellor and the licencing all said they were unhappy about it but it goes ahead anyway. Thought we keep getting told how the 'nightime economy' is booming so why now do we get 'hope of reinvigorating the night-time economy'? Azphreal
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5:28pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Bournefre says...

If they wanted to reduce conflict they'd make drinks more affordable so people don't try to steal them when they're left on a table for people to use the smoking area. The key to an enjoyable evening is not having some drunken tramp coming up to you every 5 minutes and telling you to buy her a drink.
If they wanted to reduce conflict they'd make drinks more affordable so people don't try to steal them when they're left on a table for people to use the smoking area. The key to an enjoyable evening is not having some drunken tramp coming up to you every 5 minutes and telling you to buy her a drink. Bournefre
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5:50pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Adrian XX says...

With appropriate noise-limitation (especially severely limiting bass), noise disturbance to residents can be minimised and this merger will not make much of a difference.

Many people make the point that you should expect noise if you live in a town centre. Yes, you should because that is the current state of town centres. However, it wasn't always thus and I don't think town centres should be this way at night. Efforts to further reduce noise should go ahead.

You can enjoy a night out without ear-damaging noise levels in the same way you can enjoy a night out without liver-damaging alcohol intake.
With appropriate noise-limitation (especially severely limiting bass), noise disturbance to residents can be minimised and this merger will not make much of a difference. Many people make the point that you should expect noise if you live in a town centre. Yes, you should because that is the current state of town centres. However, it wasn't always thus and I don't think town centres should be this way at night. Efforts to further reduce noise should go ahead. You can enjoy a night out without ear-damaging noise levels in the same way you can enjoy a night out without liver-damaging alcohol intake. Adrian XX
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5:51pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Adrian XX says...

I expect the anti-Carr posters will get comments switched off on this story. In fact, I suspect his lawyers are talking to the Echo right now.

Anyway, didn't he say he would have to leave the area? Things must be looking up for him.
I expect the anti-Carr posters will get comments switched off on this story. In fact, I suspect his lawyers are talking to the Echo right now. Anyway, didn't he say he would have to leave the area? Things must be looking up for him. Adrian XX
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6:11pm Thu 13 Sep 12

manyogie says...

Anyone remember the headline re Carr leaving Dorset because no one liked him.?
What went wrong.?
Anyone remember the headline re Carr leaving Dorset because no one liked him.? What went wrong.? manyogie
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6:40pm Thu 13 Sep 12

TedTheRed says...

Typically over dramatised this story... but surprisingly some sensible comments from us 'readers' for a change.

Lets get one thing straight, V is not a superclub, nor merging it with Viper will it become a superclub. Yes, its bournemouth biggest club, but we are not talking about The Ministry of Sound, The Manor, Fabric or Cream and Slinky at The Operahouse are we. Some have already made the point that having a larger space with multiple rooms has benefits over a saturated state of smaller 'night clubs' we currently have. Quality over quantity any day please.

Where Bournemouth went t1ts up is when these so called 'night clubs' like Yates, Bliss, Chilli Whites, The Mary Shelley etc. were allowed to have extended opening hours. Rane them back in and stagger the economies with a sensible schedule of closing times. Back to the good 'ol days of drinking up at 11pm then heading to a proper night club for some music and a rave up.
Typically over dramatised this story... but surprisingly some sensible comments from us 'readers' for a change. Lets get one thing straight, V is not a superclub, nor merging it with Viper will it become a superclub. Yes, its bournemouth biggest club, but we are not talking about The Ministry of Sound, The Manor, Fabric or Cream and Slinky at The Operahouse are we. Some have already made the point that having a larger space with multiple rooms has benefits over a saturated state of smaller 'night clubs' we currently have. Quality over quantity any day please. Where Bournemouth went t1ts up is when these so called 'night clubs' like Yates, Bliss, Chilli Whites, The Mary Shelley etc. were allowed to have extended opening hours. Rane them back in and stagger the economies with a sensible schedule of closing times. Back to the good 'ol days of drinking up at 11pm then heading to a proper night club for some music and a rave up. TedTheRed
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6:43pm Thu 13 Sep 12

alasdair1967 says...

Say-it-how-it-is wrote:
Humf wrote:
i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...
Oh you no him to well. I think everyone who was in the clubbing world back in the day, no what he's like. I thought he ran out of money.
hardly being driven around in his new v10 bmw 7 series every night to his business concerns not bad for a recent bankrupt
[quote][p][bold]Say-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Humf[/bold] wrote: i see Dicky Carr is a "consultant" yet again - i do chuckle at the way he pops up year after year, if I was more suspicious I'd think he might be investing again in the background...[/p][/quote]Oh you no him to well. I think everyone who was in the clubbing world back in the day, no what he's like. I thought he ran out of money.[/p][/quote]hardly being driven around in his new v10 bmw 7 series every night to his business concerns not bad for a recent bankrupt alasdair1967
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7:01pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Benny Dorm says...

There will be the same amount of vomit and urinating in doorways, the same amount of fights in the street and the same amount of class A drugs.

It'll just be centred around 1 big club instead of 2 smaller ones. I don't see what the problem is.
There will be the same amount of vomit and urinating in doorways, the same amount of fights in the street and the same amount of class A drugs. It'll just be centred around 1 big club instead of 2 smaller ones. I don't see what the problem is. Benny Dorm
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7:09pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Talkingheadera says...

whataboutthat wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.
Libel is mistruth isn't it.
Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating.
Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration.
This is illegal and he should be in prison.
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.[/p][/quote]Libel is mistruth isn't it. Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating. Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration. This is illegal and he should be in prison. Talkingheadera
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7:33pm Thu 13 Sep 12

nat-365 says...

Talkingheadera wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.
Libel is mistruth isn't it.
Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating.
Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration.
This is illegal and he should be in prison.
have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued
hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool !
[quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.[/p][/quote]Libel is mistruth isn't it. Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating. Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration. This is illegal and he should be in prison.[/p][/quote]have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool ! nat-365
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7:38pm Thu 13 Sep 12

mikeymagic2 says...

Just what we need in Bmth! Let's have a sweepstake on how many pikey **** get arrested on the opening night! The class of this place has gone!
Just what we need in Bmth! Let's have a sweepstake on how many pikey **** get arrested on the opening night! The class of this place has gone! mikeymagic2
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8:02pm Thu 13 Sep 12

nat-365 says...

mikeymagic2 wrote:
Just what we need in Bmth! Let's have a sweepstake on how many pikey **** get arrested on the opening night! The class of this place has gone!
opening night ? its been open for years its just a modification of something that already exists - did you read the story ?
[quote][p][bold]mikeymagic2[/bold] wrote: Just what we need in Bmth! Let's have a sweepstake on how many pikey **** get arrested on the opening night! The class of this place has gone![/p][/quote]opening night ? its been open for years its just a modification of something that already exists - did you read the story ? nat-365
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8:09pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Bob49 says...

"I am very alarmed at the amount of drunk people on the streets outside the venue."




Perhaps they could encourage people to consume soft drinks instead.


Though I'm not too sure if selling coke is as profitable as selling alcohol.
"I am very alarmed at the amount of drunk people on the streets outside the venue." Perhaps they could encourage people to consume soft drinks instead. Though I'm not too sure if selling coke is as profitable as selling alcohol. Bob49
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8:29pm Thu 13 Sep 12

arsmith says...

Perhaps they should turn the imax into a club, get the drunks off the street and inside
Perhaps they should turn the imax into a club, get the drunks off the street and inside arsmith
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8:56pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Talkingheadera says...

nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.
Libel is mistruth isn't it.
Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating.
Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration.
This is illegal and he should be in prison.
have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued
hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool !
I told you it's not hearsay.
[quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.[/p][/quote]Libel is mistruth isn't it. Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating. Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration. This is illegal and he should be in prison.[/p][/quote]have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool ![/p][/quote]I told you it's not hearsay. Talkingheadera
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8:59pm Thu 13 Sep 12

mpdor says...

All i would say is when richard carr left Bmth he opened his mouth and attacked the town in the paper and gave the impression that over his dead body would he return to it
All i would say is when richard carr left Bmth he opened his mouth and attacked the town in the paper and gave the impression that over his dead body would he return to it mpdor
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9:24pm Thu 13 Sep 12

EDDIE GROVES. says...

Mr Richard Carr Is a star, a blessing to your town
You dont know when your breads buttered
Mr Richard Carr Is a star, a blessing to your town You dont know when your breads buttered EDDIE GROVES.
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10:10pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Mangiafuoco says...

I love Rich Carr. I love you, Rich. You're lovable. Big lovable bloke. Loveable lump. Loveable lummox. Rich... Dove, party boy. Big oaf.
I love Rich Carr. I love you, Rich. You're lovable. Big lovable bloke. Loveable lump. Loveable lummox. Rich... Dove, party boy. Big oaf. Mangiafuoco
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10:42pm Thu 13 Sep 12

oneshortleg says...

It is illegal to serve someone who is or appears to be drunk! Yeah right how many prosecutions have of pub/club bosses do you see in the courts?
It is illegal to serve someone who is or appears to be drunk! Yeah right how many prosecutions have of pub/club bosses do you see in the courts? oneshortleg
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11:30pm Thu 13 Sep 12

John T says...

Bob 49 wrote: 'Though I am not too sure if selling coke is as profitable as selling alcohol.'

I should consult Richard Carr, if I were you, old chap.
Bob 49 wrote: 'Though I am not too sure if selling coke is as profitable as selling alcohol.' I should consult Richard Carr, if I were you, old chap. John T
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11:30pm Thu 13 Sep 12

AnastasiaB says...

Bournemouth at night is a no go zone now anyway and will not attract families whatever the council do so the only way they can get revenue is from these clubs so of course they will approve it. The town centre at night is not a good place and I no longer go to Town at night despite being a club goer. I would rather go elsewhere where I feel safer.
Bournemouth at night is a no go zone now anyway and will not attract families whatever the council do so the only way they can get revenue is from these clubs so of course they will approve it. The town centre at night is not a good place and I no longer go to Town at night despite being a club goer. I would rather go elsewhere where I feel safer. AnastasiaB
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6:11am Fri 14 Sep 12

nat-365 says...

Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.
Libel is mistruth isn't it.
Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating.
Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration.
This is illegal and he should be in prison.
have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued
hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool !
I told you it's not hearsay.
your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face
i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up
[quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.[/p][/quote]Libel is mistruth isn't it. Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating. Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration. This is illegal and he should be in prison.[/p][/quote]have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool ![/p][/quote]I told you it's not hearsay.[/p][/quote]your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up nat-365
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6:21am Fri 14 Sep 12

nat-365 says...

AnastasiaB wrote:
Bournemouth at night is a no go zone now anyway and will not attract families whatever the council do so the only way they can get revenue is from these clubs so of course they will approve it. The town centre at night is not a good place and I no longer go to Town at night despite being a club goer. I would rather go elsewhere where I feel safer.
no go zone ?? this isnt Basra what tripe some of you people write .
have you had your face slashed or something , you get conflict anywhere you get crowds and its been like that forever but in reality its the same and as safe as anywhere else ,for goodness sake get it in perspective
[quote][p][bold]AnastasiaB[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth at night is a no go zone now anyway and will not attract families whatever the council do so the only way they can get revenue is from these clubs so of course they will approve it. The town centre at night is not a good place and I no longer go to Town at night despite being a club goer. I would rather go elsewhere where I feel safer.[/p][/quote]no go zone ?? this isnt Basra what tripe some of you people write . have you had your face slashed or something , you get conflict anywhere you get crowds and its been like that forever but in reality its the same and as safe as anywhere else ,for goodness sake get it in perspective nat-365
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6:38am Fri 14 Sep 12

EGHH says...

Bournemouth has been the clubbing capital of the south coast for years. If it brings much needed cash into the local economy so be it. Good luck to them.
Bournemouth has been the clubbing capital of the south coast for years. If it brings much needed cash into the local economy so be it. Good luck to them. EGHH
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7:02am Fri 14 Sep 12

Talkingheadera says...

nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.
Libel is mistruth isn't it.
Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating.
Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration.
This is illegal and he should be in prison.
have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued
hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool !
I told you it's not hearsay.
your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face
i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up
Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years?
Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.
[quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.[/p][/quote]Libel is mistruth isn't it. Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating. Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration. This is illegal and he should be in prison.[/p][/quote]have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool ![/p][/quote]I told you it's not hearsay.[/p][/quote]your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up[/p][/quote]Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years? Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact. Talkingheadera
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7:25am Fri 14 Sep 12

jobsworthwatch says...

The rowing club has been demolished, no swimming pool and 'no cycling' signs everywhere you look; so much for the Olympic legacy! If the event of 'alcohol consumption' were to be included in the Rio Olympics then we would win gold!
The rowing club has been demolished, no swimming pool and 'no cycling' signs everywhere you look; so much for the Olympic legacy! If the event of 'alcohol consumption' were to be included in the Rio Olympics then we would win gold! jobsworthwatch
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7:32am Fri 14 Sep 12

nat-365 says...

Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.
Libel is mistruth isn't it.
Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating.
Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration.
This is illegal and he should be in prison.
have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued
hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool !
I told you it's not hearsay.
your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face
i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up
Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years?
Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.
he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that
if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact !
i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here
[quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.[/p][/quote]Libel is mistruth isn't it. Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating. Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration. This is illegal and he should be in prison.[/p][/quote]have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool ![/p][/quote]I told you it's not hearsay.[/p][/quote]your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up[/p][/quote]Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years? Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.[/p][/quote]he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact ! i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here nat-365
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7:40am Fri 14 Sep 12

Talkingheadera says...

nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.
Libel is mistruth isn't it.
Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating.
Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration.
This is illegal and he should be in prison.
have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued
hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool !
I told you it's not hearsay.
your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face
i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up
Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years?
Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.
he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that
if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact !
i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here
Oh I would.
I take it as you are so concerned that you are mr are or his lapdog.
Why a would you be so irate otherwise. How do you think it's all hearsay. ? How do you know how far I from the truth?
You have no idea
[quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.[/p][/quote]Libel is mistruth isn't it. Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating. Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration. This is illegal and he should be in prison.[/p][/quote]have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool ![/p][/quote]I told you it's not hearsay.[/p][/quote]your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up[/p][/quote]Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years? Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.[/p][/quote]he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact ! i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here[/p][/quote]Oh I would. I take it as you are so concerned that you are mr are or his lapdog. Why a would you be so irate otherwise. How do you think it's all hearsay. ? How do you know how far I from the truth? You have no idea Talkingheadera
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7:50am Fri 14 Sep 12

nat-365 says...

Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.
Libel is mistruth isn't it.
Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating.
Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration.
This is illegal and he should be in prison.
have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued
hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool !
I told you it's not hearsay.
your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face
i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up
Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years?
Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.
he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that
if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact !
i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here
Oh I would.
I take it as you are so concerned that you are mr are or his lapdog.
Why a would you be so irate otherwise. How do you think it's all hearsay. ? How do you know how far I from the truth?
You have no idea
I am nothing to do with Mr Carr - thats another assumption you got wrong . but i dislike tremendously malicious gossip spread by idiots like you .
so you WOULD confront him would you ? so why havent you ,instead of hiding behind your computer screen ?because you are a weasel . inaccurate with your information and a nobody
i challenge you to confront the man , bring your evidence ?? youre all mouth
[quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.[/p][/quote]Libel is mistruth isn't it. Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating. Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration. This is illegal and he should be in prison.[/p][/quote]have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool ![/p][/quote]I told you it's not hearsay.[/p][/quote]your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up[/p][/quote]Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years? Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.[/p][/quote]he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact ! i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here[/p][/quote]Oh I would. I take it as you are so concerned that you are mr are or his lapdog. Why a would you be so irate otherwise. How do you think it's all hearsay. ? How do you know how far I from the truth? You have no idea[/p][/quote]I am nothing to do with Mr Carr - thats another assumption you got wrong . but i dislike tremendously malicious gossip spread by idiots like you . so you WOULD confront him would you ? so why havent you ,instead of hiding behind your computer screen ?because you are a weasel . inaccurate with your information and a nobody i challenge you to confront the man , bring your evidence ?? youre all mouth nat-365
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8:55am Fri 14 Sep 12

Adrian XX says...

if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists

Don't be silly. There are hundreds of criminal cases where evidence comes to light at a later date.

If he is not being investigated (and it is quite likely that any investigation would not be made public), then it could be because evidence is well-hidden.

As a disqualified director, Richard Carr must not:

Be a director of any company
Act like a director - even without being formally appointed
Influence the running of a company through the directors
Be involved in the formation of a new company
Act in a way that promotes a company

I would suggest that Richard Carr is breaking the law at least on the last point here, though I am not an insolvency practitioner so I don't know the law intimately. I suspect he is acting in a way that promotes one of James Beedham's many companies, all of which are listed here: http://bit.ly/PoKgz0

As far as I can see it wouldn't be HMRC who prosecute such a case, but the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills.
[quote]if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists[/quote] Don't be silly. There are hundreds of criminal cases where evidence comes to light at a later date. If he is not being investigated (and it is quite likely that any investigation would not be made public), then it could be because evidence is well-hidden. As a disqualified director, Richard Carr must not: Be a director of any company Act like a director - even without being formally appointed Influence the running of a company through the directors Be involved in the formation of a new company Act in a way that promotes a company I would suggest that Richard Carr is breaking the law at least on the last point here, though I am not an insolvency practitioner so I don't know the law intimately. I suspect he is acting in a way that promotes one of James Beedham's many companies, all of which are listed here: http://bit.ly/PoKgz0 As far as I can see it wouldn't be HMRC who prosecute such a case, but the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills. Adrian XX
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9:11am Fri 14 Sep 12

spooki says...

Bob49 wrote:
"I am very alarmed at the amount of drunk people on the streets outside the venue."




Perhaps they could encourage people to consume soft drinks instead.


Though I'm not too sure if selling coke is as profitable as selling alcohol.
By 'Coke' I assume you mean the drink? When I used to go out to Wetherspoons in the evening it was CHEAPER to buy a spirit & mixer or a pint of lager than to buy a pint of Coke. I don't go now I prefer to buy my soft drinks in a supermarket and enjoy them at home where I can enjoy it and not worry about some drunken idiot barging into me, some sad desperate fool spiking it or listen to lads swearing.
On the subject of a superclub, the clubs are there already so what difference will it make? If you don't like it, don't go.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: "I am very alarmed at the amount of drunk people on the streets outside the venue." Perhaps they could encourage people to consume soft drinks instead. Though I'm not too sure if selling coke is as profitable as selling alcohol.[/p][/quote]By 'Coke' I assume you mean the drink? When I used to go out to Wetherspoons in the evening it was CHEAPER to buy a spirit & mixer or a pint of lager than to buy a pint of Coke. I don't go now I prefer to buy my soft drinks in a supermarket and enjoy them at home where I can enjoy it and not worry about some drunken idiot barging into me, some sad desperate fool spiking it or listen to lads swearing. On the subject of a superclub, the clubs are there already so what difference will it make? If you don't like it, don't go. spooki
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9:28am Fri 14 Sep 12

nat-365 says...

Adrian XX wrote:
if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists

Don't be silly. There are hundreds of criminal cases where evidence comes to light at a later date.

If he is not being investigated (and it is quite likely that any investigation would not be made public), then it could be because evidence is well-hidden.

As a disqualified director, Richard Carr must not:

Be a director of any company
Act like a director - even without being formally appointed
Influence the running of a company through the directors
Be involved in the formation of a new company
Act in a way that promotes a company

I would suggest that Richard Carr is breaking the law at least on the last point here, though I am not an insolvency practitioner so I don't know the law intimately. I suspect he is acting in a way that promotes one of James Beedham's many companies, all of which are listed here: http://bit.ly/PoKgz0

As far as I can see it wouldn't be HMRC who prosecute such a case, but the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills.
i am not critical of absolute fact - havent seen any of that ? - but supposition amounts to nothing . Carr is not on bail pending proscecution ,would have to be charged within a year and a day etc etc its not happening is it
if a prosecution ever happens i will publically eat a large slice of humble pie - dont hold you breath for that one
[quote][p][bold]Adrian XX[/bold] wrote: [quote]if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists[/quote] Don't be silly. There are hundreds of criminal cases where evidence comes to light at a later date. If he is not being investigated (and it is quite likely that any investigation would not be made public), then it could be because evidence is well-hidden. As a disqualified director, Richard Carr must not: Be a director of any company Act like a director - even without being formally appointed Influence the running of a company through the directors Be involved in the formation of a new company Act in a way that promotes a company I would suggest that Richard Carr is breaking the law at least on the last point here, though I am not an insolvency practitioner so I don't know the law intimately. I suspect he is acting in a way that promotes one of James Beedham's many companies, all of which are listed here: http://bit.ly/PoKgz0 As far as I can see it wouldn't be HMRC who prosecute such a case, but the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills.[/p][/quote]i am not critical of absolute fact - havent seen any of that ? - but supposition amounts to nothing . Carr is not on bail pending proscecution ,would have to be charged within a year and a day etc etc its not happening is it if a prosecution ever happens i will publically eat a large slice of humble pie - dont hold you breath for that one nat-365
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10:13am Fri 14 Sep 12

Redgolfer00 says...

nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.
Libel is mistruth isn't it.
Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating.
Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration.
This is illegal and he should be in prison.
have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued
hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool !
I told you it's not hearsay.
your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face
i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up
Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years?
Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.
he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that
if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact !
i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here
Friend of Mr. Carr are we, I too am a taxi driver and have on more than once had the disgusting experience of having him in my cab and he was bagging with his cronies about what he was going to do or not to do so I know the other driver is telling the truth or am I lying as well. The problem with Mr. Carr is he spouts one thing in the press and does the opposite, he is banned because of being bankrupt , so why is he on today echo saying we should be grateful to him for creating a ''super club'' when he should not have anything to do with that venture but we all know he has his grubby little fingers all over it.
[quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.[/p][/quote]Libel is mistruth isn't it. Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating. Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration. This is illegal and he should be in prison.[/p][/quote]have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool ![/p][/quote]I told you it's not hearsay.[/p][/quote]your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up[/p][/quote]Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years? Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.[/p][/quote]he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact ! i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here[/p][/quote]Friend of Mr. Carr are we, I too am a taxi driver and have on more than once had the disgusting experience of having him in my cab and he was bagging with his cronies about what he was going to do or not to do so I know the other driver is telling the truth or am I lying as well. The problem with Mr. Carr is he spouts one thing in the press and does the opposite, he is banned because of being bankrupt , so why is he on today echo saying we should be grateful to him for creating a ''super club'' when he should not have anything to do with that venture but we all know he has his grubby little fingers all over it. Redgolfer00
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10:58am Fri 14 Sep 12

nat-365 says...

Redgolfer00 wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.
Libel is mistruth isn't it.
Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating.
Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration.
This is illegal and he should be in prison.
have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued
hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool !
I told you it's not hearsay.
your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face
i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up
Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years?
Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.
he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that
if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact !
i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here
Friend of Mr. Carr are we, I too am a taxi driver and have on more than once had the disgusting experience of having him in my cab and he was bagging with his cronies about what he was going to do or not to do so I know the other driver is telling the truth or am I lying as well. The problem with Mr. Carr is he spouts one thing in the press and does the opposite, he is banned because of being bankrupt , so why is he on today echo saying we should be grateful to him for creating a ''super club'' when he should not have anything to do with that venture but we all know he has his grubby little fingers all over it.
and it is your word against his . I've said it often enough ,you need evidence ,no evidence = no case ,what is difficult to understand in that line ?
if you took an illegal fare,someone said you did ,you said you didnt and there was no one to back up the accusation , how could you be found guilty of an offence ? does that explain my point ?
what you THINK amounts to NOTHING
[quote][p][bold]Redgolfer00[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.[/p][/quote]Libel is mistruth isn't it. Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating. Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration. This is illegal and he should be in prison.[/p][/quote]have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool ![/p][/quote]I told you it's not hearsay.[/p][/quote]your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up[/p][/quote]Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years? Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.[/p][/quote]he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact ! i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here[/p][/quote]Friend of Mr. Carr are we, I too am a taxi driver and have on more than once had the disgusting experience of having him in my cab and he was bagging with his cronies about what he was going to do or not to do so I know the other driver is telling the truth or am I lying as well. The problem with Mr. Carr is he spouts one thing in the press and does the opposite, he is banned because of being bankrupt , so why is he on today echo saying we should be grateful to him for creating a ''super club'' when he should not have anything to do with that venture but we all know he has his grubby little fingers all over it.[/p][/quote]and it is your word against his . I've said it often enough ,you need evidence ,no evidence = no case ,what is difficult to understand in that line ? if you took an illegal fare,someone said you did ,you said you didnt and there was no one to back up the accusation , how could you be found guilty of an offence ? does that explain my point ? what you THINK amounts to NOTHING nat-365
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11:23am Fri 14 Sep 12

Bob49 says...

" oh so you know Carr all to well do you ? another one !! you probably dont even know his middle name "


Dinsdale ?
" oh so you know Carr all to well do you ? another one !! you probably dont even know his middle name " Dinsdale ? Bob49
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11:41am Fri 14 Sep 12

The Liberal says...

nat-365 wrote:
like it or not it was approved - so critise all you like Richard Carr wins the day
Why's that? I thought he was merely a 'consultant'?
[quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: like it or not it was approved - so critise all you like Richard Carr wins the day[/p][/quote]Why's that? I thought he was merely a 'consultant'? The Liberal
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11:44am Fri 14 Sep 12

The Liberal says...

nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.
Libel is mistruth isn't it.
Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating.
Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration.
This is illegal and he should be in prison.
have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued
hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool !
Better to be a fool than a sock puppet.
[quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.[/p][/quote]Libel is mistruth isn't it. Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating. Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration. This is illegal and he should be in prison.[/p][/quote]have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool ![/p][/quote]Better to be a fool than a sock puppet. The Liberal
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1:04pm Fri 14 Sep 12

madras says...

Pablo23 wrote:
I can't see anything really wrong with it, but I thought the 'super club' & celebrity DJ culture and died out somewhat in the 90s.
Is it financially viable we must ask ourselves.
These days I prefer a village pub personally.
'I always think of it as younger people whereas around Walkabout is for people in their 20s'

Oh my, I feel soooooo old!
[quote][p][bold]Pablo23[/bold] wrote: I can't see anything really wrong with it, but I thought the 'super club' & celebrity DJ culture and died out somewhat in the 90s. Is it financially viable we must ask ourselves. These days I prefer a village pub personally.[/p][/quote]'I always think of it as younger people whereas around Walkabout is for people in their 20s' Oh my, I feel soooooo old! madras
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2:11pm Fri 14 Sep 12

MrPitiful says...

Interesting to note that tickets for V clubs events involving the big names such as Pete Tong, DJ Fresh etc. are now being sold on the website of BHLive, the company which is in partnership with the council & runs venues like the BIC etc.
Interesting to note that tickets for V clubs events involving the big names such as Pete Tong, DJ Fresh etc. are now being sold on the website of BHLive, the company which is in partnership with the council & runs venues like the BIC etc. MrPitiful
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2:43pm Fri 14 Sep 12

Martin Caine says...

So how did this actually turn into a 'Hate Carr' campaign anyway ? I thought the discussion was about merging two night clubs into one. Well it's got the green light now so good luck to all involved in the venture I for one wish them all the luck with it as I believe it will bring more money to the town. As for all those that are happy to slag of Richard Carr, I dare you to do as well as he has because only then do you really have the right to do so!
So how did this actually turn into a 'Hate Carr' campaign anyway ? I thought the discussion was about merging two night clubs into one. Well it's got the green light now so good luck to all involved in the venture I for one wish them all the luck with it as I believe it will bring more money to the town. As for all those that are happy to slag of Richard Carr, I dare you to do as well as he has because only then do you really have the right to do so! Martin Caine
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2:57pm Fri 14 Sep 12

Bob49 says...

"I dare you to do as well as he has because only then do you really have the right to do so!”


Or maybe most of us choose to pay the people we owe money to. Choose to honour the debts of those that trusted us by providing us with goods and services.

Perhaps when you can take a quiet moment from singing his praises, you might care to consider how quickly society would collapse were we all to conduct ourselves in such a way as he does.
"I dare you to do as well as he has because only then do you really have the right to do so!” Or maybe most of us choose to pay the people we owe money to. Choose to honour the debts of those that trusted us by providing us with goods and services. Perhaps when you can take a quiet moment from singing his praises, you might care to consider how quickly society would collapse were we all to conduct ourselves in such a way as he does. Bob49
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3:22pm Fri 14 Sep 12

Martin Caine says...

Bob49 wrote:
"I dare you to do as well as he has because only then do you really have the right to do so!”


Or maybe most of us choose to pay the people we owe money to. Choose to honour the debts of those that trusted us by providing us with goods and services.

Perhaps when you can take a quiet moment from singing his praises, you might care to consider how quickly society would collapse were we all to conduct ourselves in such a way as he does.
I'm sure I still have a receivers letter from Dundee's somewhere for an unpaid bill still outstanding, though I am sure I made more profit than loss from Dundee's, So I don't have a problem with him over it, that is after all the gamble everyone takes when dealing with limited companies. I had a business at Tower Park at the same time as Richard and I assure you we both got shafted by Price Waterhouse, when Tower Park Ltd went bankrupt. So I am not singing his praises as such I am pointing out the nonsense that is being posted here. I bet the taxi drivers in this thread were glad to take his money at the time.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: "I dare you to do as well as he has because only then do you really have the right to do so!” Or maybe most of us choose to pay the people we owe money to. Choose to honour the debts of those that trusted us by providing us with goods and services. Perhaps when you can take a quiet moment from singing his praises, you might care to consider how quickly society would collapse were we all to conduct ourselves in such a way as he does.[/p][/quote]I'm sure I still have a receivers letter from Dundee's somewhere for an unpaid bill still outstanding, though I am sure I made more profit than loss from Dundee's, So I don't have a problem with him over it, that is after all the gamble everyone takes when dealing with limited companies. I had a business at Tower Park at the same time as Richard and I assure you we both got shafted by Price Waterhouse, when Tower Park Ltd went bankrupt. So I am not singing his praises as such I am pointing out the nonsense that is being posted here. I bet the taxi drivers in this thread were glad to take his money at the time. Martin Caine
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3:45pm Fri 14 Sep 12

Bob49 says...

So by trading as a limited company you absolve yourself of all moral and social, as well as financial responsibilty.

As to the taxi drivers, it is far more than them with 'recollections'.

And what do you expect them to do. Stop the taxi and eject him because he is shouting his gob off, again ?
So by trading as a limited company you absolve yourself of all moral and social, as well as financial responsibilty. As to the taxi drivers, it is far more than them with 'recollections'. And what do you expect them to do. Stop the taxi and eject him because he is shouting his gob off, again ? Bob49
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3:56pm Fri 14 Sep 12

Martin Caine says...

Bob49 wrote:
So by trading as a limited company you absolve yourself of all moral and social, as well as financial responsibilty.

As to the taxi drivers, it is far more than them with 'recollections'.

And what do you expect them to do. Stop the taxi and eject him because he is shouting his gob off, again ?
No I simply expect them not to slag of someone who has paid them money for a service but I may be the only one that thinks that is wrong. Like I said I am pleased they got the green light, so I will gladly leave others to debate the moral and social standards of business with Bob49
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: So by trading as a limited company you absolve yourself of all moral and social, as well as financial responsibilty. As to the taxi drivers, it is far more than them with 'recollections'. And what do you expect them to do. Stop the taxi and eject him because he is shouting his gob off, again ?[/p][/quote]No I simply expect them not to slag of someone who has paid them money for a service but I may be the only one that thinks that is wrong. Like I said I am pleased they got the green light, so I will gladly leave others to debate the moral and social standards of business with Bob49 Martin Caine
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4:43pm Fri 14 Sep 12

Bob49 says...

He paid for the service (a taxi ride) that is all

If he doesn't want them to comment on what he said then might I suggest he doesn't spend the journey bragging about his 'escapades'.
He paid for the service (a taxi ride) that is all If he doesn't want them to comment on what he said then might I suggest he doesn't spend the journey bragging about his 'escapades'. Bob49
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5:15pm Fri 14 Sep 12

nat-365 says...

Martin Caine wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
"I dare you to do as well as he has because only then do you really have the right to do so!”


Or maybe most of us choose to pay the people we owe money to. Choose to honour the debts of those that trusted us by providing us with goods and services.

Perhaps when you can take a quiet moment from singing his praises, you might care to consider how quickly society would collapse were we all to conduct ourselves in such a way as he does.
I'm sure I still have a receivers letter from Dundee's somewhere for an unpaid bill still outstanding, though I am sure I made more profit than loss from Dundee's, So I don't have a problem with him over it, that is after all the gamble everyone takes when dealing with limited companies. I had a business at Tower Park at the same time as Richard and I assure you we both got shafted by Price Waterhouse, when Tower Park Ltd went bankrupt. So I am not singing his praises as such I am pointing out the nonsense that is being posted here. I bet the taxi drivers in this thread were glad to take his money at the time.
an absolutely fair and reasonable comment from a man who was in the thick of it , you won a lot and lost a little but you are mature enough to know that these things happen and dont bear a grudge .taxi drivers ... well they never rip anyone off . much !
[quote][p][bold]Martin Caine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: "I dare you to do as well as he has because only then do you really have the right to do so!” Or maybe most of us choose to pay the people we owe money to. Choose to honour the debts of those that trusted us by providing us with goods and services. Perhaps when you can take a quiet moment from singing his praises, you might care to consider how quickly society would collapse were we all to conduct ourselves in such a way as he does.[/p][/quote]I'm sure I still have a receivers letter from Dundee's somewhere for an unpaid bill still outstanding, though I am sure I made more profit than loss from Dundee's, So I don't have a problem with him over it, that is after all the gamble everyone takes when dealing with limited companies. I had a business at Tower Park at the same time as Richard and I assure you we both got shafted by Price Waterhouse, when Tower Park Ltd went bankrupt. So I am not singing his praises as such I am pointing out the nonsense that is being posted here. I bet the taxi drivers in this thread were glad to take his money at the time.[/p][/quote]an absolutely fair and reasonable comment from a man who was in the thick of it , you won a lot and lost a little but you are mature enough to know that these things happen and dont bear a grudge .taxi drivers ... well they never rip anyone off . much ! nat-365
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6:25pm Fri 14 Sep 12

Talkingheadera says...

Redgolfer00 wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.
Libel is mistruth isn't it.
Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating.
Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration.
This is illegal and he should be in prison.
have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued
hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool !
I told you it's not hearsay.
your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face
i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up
Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years?
Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.
he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that
if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact !
i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here
Friend of Mr. Carr are we, I too am a taxi driver and have on more than once had the disgusting experience of having him in my cab and he was bagging with his cronies about what he was going to do or not to do so I know the other driver is telling the truth or am I lying as well. The problem with Mr. Carr is he spouts one thing in the press and does the opposite, he is banned because of being bankrupt , so why is he on today echo saying we should be grateful to him for creating a ''super club'' when he should not have anything to do with that venture but we all know he has his grubby little fingers all over it.
I think you'll find a bankrupt gets banned for something like 3 years. 10 years if been underhand with something.like laundering money.
[quote][p][bold]Redgolfer00[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.[/p][/quote]Libel is mistruth isn't it. Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating. Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration. This is illegal and he should be in prison.[/p][/quote]have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool ![/p][/quote]I told you it's not hearsay.[/p][/quote]your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up[/p][/quote]Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years? Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.[/p][/quote]he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact ! i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here[/p][/quote]Friend of Mr. Carr are we, I too am a taxi driver and have on more than once had the disgusting experience of having him in my cab and he was bagging with his cronies about what he was going to do or not to do so I know the other driver is telling the truth or am I lying as well. The problem with Mr. Carr is he spouts one thing in the press and does the opposite, he is banned because of being bankrupt , so why is he on today echo saying we should be grateful to him for creating a ''super club'' when he should not have anything to do with that venture but we all know he has his grubby little fingers all over it.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find a bankrupt gets banned for something like 3 years. 10 years if been underhand with something.like laundering money. Talkingheadera
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7:46pm Fri 14 Sep 12

Talkingheadera says...

And Carr has a lovely big house in America. Not bad for a bankrupt who said I've lost everything!
Not hearsay
And Carr has a lovely big house in America. Not bad for a bankrupt who said I've lost everything! Not hearsay Talkingheadera
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8:12pm Fri 14 Sep 12

Talkingheadera says...

A bankrupt director can be banned for 2 years! Carr got 10 because serious failings.
Why ?
A bankrupt director can be banned for 2 years! Carr got 10 because serious failings. Why ? Talkingheadera
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10:03pm Fri 14 Sep 12

mmm2008 says...

nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.
Libel is mistruth isn't it.
Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating.
Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration.
This is illegal and he should be in prison.
have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued
hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool !
I told you it's not hearsay.
your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face
i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up
Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years?
Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.
he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that
if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact !
i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here
Why is nat-365 so defensive? And angry?
[quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.[/p][/quote]Libel is mistruth isn't it. Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating. Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration. This is illegal and he should be in prison.[/p][/quote]have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool ![/p][/quote]I told you it's not hearsay.[/p][/quote]your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up[/p][/quote]Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years? Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.[/p][/quote]he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact ! i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here[/p][/quote]Why is nat-365 so defensive? And angry? mmm2008
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1:35am Sat 15 Sep 12

Hercule Poirot says...

nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.
Libel is mistruth isn't it.
Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating.
Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration.
This is illegal and he should be in prison.
have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued
hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool !
I told you it's not hearsay.
your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face
i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up
Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years?
Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.
he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that
if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact !
i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here
What sort of person makes these comments:
"i challenge you to confront the man , bring your evidence ?? youre all mouth"
"have you had your face slashed or something"
"you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face"?
Sounds like the criminal underworld may have arrived in Bournemouth.
[quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.[/p][/quote]Libel is mistruth isn't it. Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating. Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration. This is illegal and he should be in prison.[/p][/quote]have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool ![/p][/quote]I told you it's not hearsay.[/p][/quote]your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up[/p][/quote]Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years? Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.[/p][/quote]he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact ! i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here[/p][/quote]What sort of person makes these comments: "i challenge you to confront the man , bring your evidence ?? youre all mouth" "have you had your face slashed or something" "you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face"? Sounds like the criminal underworld may have arrived in Bournemouth. Hercule Poirot
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9:57am Sat 15 Sep 12

Talkingheadera says...

Hercule Poirot wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
nat-365 wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
Open your eyes and ears people.
Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years.
All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact.
Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.
Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.
Libel is mistruth isn't it.
Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating.
Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration.
This is illegal and he should be in prison.
have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued
hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool !
I told you it's not hearsay.
your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face
i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up
Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years?
Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.
he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that
if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact !
i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here
What sort of person makes these comments:
"i challenge you to confront the man , bring your evidence ?? youre all mouth"
"have you had your face slashed or something"
"you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face"?
Sounds like the criminal underworld may have arrived in Bournemouth.
Hit a raw nerve have I.?
What sort of person? One that's a lot nearer the truth than you think.
[quote][p][bold]Hercule Poirot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nat-365[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: Open your eyes and ears people. Fact. The clubs are carrs except in name. His lapdog ex manager is the front man. Carrs banned from being a director for 10 years. All his laundered cash went into this and dundees. That's why all suppliers are paid in cash.he needs to get rid of it. This isn't hearsay. It's fact. Obnoxious man who loves hanger ons.[/p][/quote]Obnoxious as he may be according to many commenters on here I hope you have a solicitor as your comment is libel and actionable. I'd stick to mere vulgar abuse if I was you.[/p][/quote]Libel is mistruth isn't it. Like I said its fact. The tax man should be investigating. Plenty of taxi drivers know he bundled all his cash out the days before he went onto administration. This is illegal and he should be in prison.[/p][/quote]have you any idea what evidence is ,you are lining yourself up to be sued hearsay doesnt stand up in court - you are a fool ![/p][/quote]I told you it's not hearsay.[/p][/quote]your protests are not evidence ,you are talking rubbish ,if you have evidence take it to the police - i suspect youll be ushered out of the police station, they have to investigate an accusation but i think you will end up with egg on your face i think you simply have a personal vendetta against the guy and if i were Mr Carr i would report you for harrassment ,just because someone told you what some else told them doesnt make it fact - grow up[/p][/quote]Why is he banned from being a director for 10 years? Because hmrc investigated and found he laundered money to the USA and to family members. Fact.[/p][/quote]he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that if HMRC couldnt prosecute him as a criminal then take it from me that no evidence exists , can you not see that ? its not fact - youre an oaf, thats fact ! i cant really understand either why Richard Carr would tell his business to 'plenty of taxi drivers' , it just does not have an ounce of truth in it ,you listen to or start ridiculous gossip and label it as 'fact' - take it from me you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face ,so dont say it on here[/p][/quote]What sort of person makes these comments: "i challenge you to confront the man , bring your evidence ?? youre all mouth" "have you had your face slashed or something" "you are a muppet and wouldnt have the bottle to say it to the mans face"? Sounds like the criminal underworld may have arrived in Bournemouth.[/p][/quote]Hit a raw nerve have I.? What sort of person? One that's a lot nearer the truth than you think. Talkingheadera
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12:04pm Sat 15 Sep 12

Bob49 says...

"he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that" - nat365

that is untrue as the actual reason given was -

"But he has now entered into a 10 year Bankruptcy Restriction Undertaking after the discovery of what the Insolvency Service called his “unfit conduct.”


'then take it from me that no evidence exists' - nat365


again, not true as evidence does exist, as in -

"....following claims that he stashed nearly £270,000 in the bank account of a relative’s husband and put £100,000 into a US bank account.

The Insolvency Service also revealed he incurred more than £100,000 of debt just weeks after Future 3000 plc and Ravine Lifestyle Limited went into administration, and made cash withdrawals totalling £150,000 from his UK bank account."


both quotes were reported in the local media -13th Oct 2009
"he is banned as a director for 10 years because he is a bankrupt ,there is nothing unusual about that" - nat365 that is untrue as the actual reason given was - "But he has now entered into a 10 year Bankruptcy Restriction Undertaking after the discovery of what the Insolvency Service called his “unfit conduct.” 'then take it from me that no evidence exists' - nat365 again, not true as evidence does exist, as in - "....following claims that he stashed nearly £270,000 in the bank account of a relative’s husband and put £100,000 into a US bank account. The Insolvency Service also revealed he incurred more than £100,000 of debt just weeks after Future 3000 plc and Ravine Lifestyle Limited went into administration, and made cash withdrawals totalling £150,000 from his UK bank account." both quotes were reported in the local media -13th Oct 2009 Bob49
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12:36pm Sat 15 Sep 12

MrPitiful says...

"both quotes were reported in the local media -13th Oct 2009" - bob49

Oh so it must be true then.
"both quotes were reported in the local media -13th Oct 2009" - bob49 Oh so it must be true then. MrPitiful
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3:20pm Sat 15 Sep 12

Bob49 says...

It was a reference date to be used, that's all.

As to whether it is true, then if not we have to presume the Insolvency service (who made those statements) are lying ....


... as is Richard Carr who, in acknowledging those actions, replied with -

"He told the Daily Echo that the money sent to the US was owed to a friend and that the £270,000 was paid into his brother-in-law’s account.

“The properties that were sold were owned by my sister so the money was given back to her.”



Others can choose to believe what they wish, though these earlier statements are rather illuminating -

"An official statement of Mr Carr’s “unfit conduct” said: “Although Mr Carr either knew or ought to have known that he was personally insolvent, he continued to use his existing credit facilities to fund his previous lifestyle, which he made no attempt to moderate.” - reported 9th Oct 2009


"Bournemouth Official Receiver Tony Ryan said: “Mr Carr’s business failures resulted in him becoming liable for significant sums under company guarantees.

“At a time when he was aware of these liabilities, his actions put his personal assets beyond the reach of his creditors, and such culpable conduct warranted investigation by the Insolvency Service following the Bankruptcy Order made against him on October 10 2008."


So how much did he owe -

"When his two main companies went into administration, Mr Carr was liable for £7.5m of the companies’ debts, which he had personally guaranteed."


And how much did he have, before "his actions put his personal assets beyond the reach of his creditors" ?

" £536,194, comprising a credit bank balance, proceeds from the sale of two properties and a £500 watch "

Which coincidental with the approach of bankruptcy he discovered belonged to close family members, rather than himself.
It was a reference date to be used, that's all. As to whether it is true, then if not we have to presume the Insolvency service (who made those statements) are lying .... ... as is Richard Carr who, in acknowledging those actions, replied with - "He told the Daily Echo that the money sent to the US was owed to a friend and that the £270,000 was paid into his brother-in-law’s account. “The properties that were sold were owned by my sister so the money was given back to her.” Others can choose to believe what they wish, though these earlier statements are rather illuminating - "An official statement of Mr Carr’s “unfit conduct” said: “Although Mr Carr either knew or ought to have known that he was personally insolvent, he continued to use his existing credit facilities to fund his previous lifestyle, which he made no attempt to moderate.” - reported 9th Oct 2009 "Bournemouth Official Receiver Tony Ryan said: “Mr Carr’s business failures resulted in him becoming liable for significant sums under company guarantees. “At a time when he was aware of these liabilities, his actions put his personal assets beyond the reach of his creditors, and such culpable conduct warranted investigation by the Insolvency Service following the Bankruptcy Order made against him on October 10 2008." So how much did he owe - "When his two main companies went into administration, Mr Carr was liable for £7.5m of the companies’ debts, which he had personally guaranteed." And how much did he have, before "his actions put his personal assets beyond the reach of his creditors" ? " £536,194, comprising a credit bank balance, proceeds from the sale of two properties and a £500 watch " Which coincidental with the approach of bankruptcy he discovered belonged to close family members, rather than himself. Bob49
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9:27pm Sat 15 Sep 12

Talkingheadera says...

How we should be so grateful to have such a wonderful businessman in our town!
He has also been charged for drink driving on numerous occasions, been involved with assaulting people,
And making unwanted sexual advances to members of his staff. The
list goes on.
Oh and when he sold the lease on the opera house he didn't have the decency to tell his staff. They turned up for work and were locked out!
How grateful we all shoul be!
How we should be so grateful to have such a wonderful businessman in our town! He has also been charged for drink driving on numerous occasions, been involved with assaulting people, And making unwanted sexual advances to members of his staff. The list goes on. Oh and when he sold the lease on the opera house he didn't have the decency to tell his staff. They turned up for work and were locked out! How grateful we all shoul be! Talkingheadera
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10:29pm Sat 15 Sep 12

bobthedestroyer says...

They should create a purpose built superclub on the NCP carpark (the rip off one) and close the two venues in question, moves the noise a little bit further away from the residents and is well positioned for public transport to get people away when the night is over. COuncil could build it and then rent it out to a private company to run it
They should create a purpose built superclub on the NCP carpark (the rip off one) and close the two venues in question, moves the noise a little bit further away from the residents and is well positioned for public transport to get people away when the night is over. COuncil could build it and then rent it out to a private company to run it bobthedestroyer
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9:19am Tue 18 Sep 12

arthur1948 says...

as always money wins...no thought as usual for decent folk
as always money wins...no thought as usual for decent folk arthur1948
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5:35pm Tue 18 Sep 12

chrspeters says...

Out of all these many, some hostile, responses I feel much akin to arthur1948 words ‘as always money wins...no thought as usual for decent folk’.

Most attacks have been for and against Mr Carr and his money-making/losing ventures. Yet it surprises me most that the local council have not been brought into question over why they allowed this venture to go ahead?

Some here argue that it is good business that will bring in lots of revenue.

Yet I ask, who for?

It won’t be for the likes of us ordinary council tax payers as we will have to pay out more on street clean-ups, police and ambulance turnouts for all the mayhem that these binge or obviously now new super-binge drinking venues will produce. It has been quoted above that the likes of Carr have raked in fortunes and are living so well on the sheer degradation of Bournemouth and we local taxpayers are paying for it with the aftermath daily/nightly clean up.

To my mind, if the local council wanted to improve Bournemouth, then they would cut down of binge drinking venues and not just go further to make them ‘super’ the problem. If we are to go down that road of putting money-making businesses way before any respectable values, then why not create Bournemouth as a place to come for all binge-drinkers, drug dealers and users, prostitutes and clients – there will sure be a lot of money to make but again, who for?

Bournemouth needs entrepreneurs to return our town once again to a family resort. What we don’t need is more ideas to degrade us even further.
Out of all these many, some hostile, responses I feel much akin to arthur1948 words ‘as always money wins...no thought as usual for decent folk’. Most attacks have been for and against Mr Carr and his money-making/losing ventures. Yet it surprises me most that the local council have not been brought into question over why they allowed this venture to go ahead? Some here argue that it is good business that will bring in lots of revenue. Yet I ask, who for? It won’t be for the likes of us ordinary council tax payers as we will have to pay out more on street clean-ups, police and ambulance turnouts for all the mayhem that these binge or obviously now new super-binge drinking venues will produce. It has been quoted above that the likes of Carr have raked in fortunes and are living so well on the sheer degradation of Bournemouth and we local taxpayers are paying for it with the aftermath daily/nightly clean up. To my mind, if the local council wanted to improve Bournemouth, then they would cut down of binge drinking venues and not just go further to make them ‘super’ the problem. If we are to go down that road of putting money-making businesses way before any respectable values, then why not create Bournemouth as a place to come for all binge-drinkers, drug dealers and users, prostitutes and clients – there will sure be a lot of money to make but again, who for? Bournemouth needs entrepreneurs to return our town once again to a family resort. What we don’t need is more ideas to degrade us even further. chrspeters
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