A mum at 13: girl expecting baby with boy aged 14 (From Bournemouth Echo)

BIGTONE wrote:
No education,No job = pregnancy,benefits and a Council property.

Duckorange wrote:

BIGTONE wrote:
No education,No job = pregnancy,benefits and a Council property.

14 years old and no job. Not even a paper round. So fast to judgment, Bigtone

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

ElmerFudd wrote:
Is anyone actually REALLY surprised in todays chav-laden 'celebritney' culture. No doubt they will next be on Jeremy Kyle, hire Max to publicise their story and appear on some fly-on-the-wall documentary about trying to raise a child and juggling SATs revision, that’s assuming they actually do 'bovver' going to school.
Also I'm not surprised that the lily-livered namby-pambys in so-shal-services-inn

it's first court action is to hide their identities. At 13, the 'father' is at the age of criminal responsibility and, as I understand it, the law on statutory rape has not yet been repealed.
The first court action should have thus been charges against him, but again, that really is no surprise in today's society.

Fred21 wrote:
"I would insist on abortion" "abortion should be compulsory" What disgusting comments! That is still a child's life you are so flippantly ending! Yes its a parent and education fail, but abortion isn't the answer many childless couples would give a child a loving home!!

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

ASM wrote:
We all know what the future holds for this 2, they probably won't be together in 2 years time any way. Work should be compulsory for all capable parents who claim benefits. These kids aren't stupid, they know they can spend the rest of their lives in their nice little council house, having parties every night and playing playstation, with free housing, healthcare, schools and weekly allowance. Why not make scroungers/dossers/l

ow-life's join the army or do community service for their 80 quid each per week, plus thousands of pounds worth of other benefits each month

hammer wrote:
I bet you they ride their bicycles on the pavement as well!

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

Fred21 wrote:
"I would insist on abortion" "abortion should be compulsory" What disgusting comments! That is still a child's life you are so flippantly ending! Yes its a parent and education fail, but abortion isn't the answer many childless couples would give a child a loving home!!

What kind of life?? Some feral future burden for the taxpayer. Fine keep it but they can find a way to pay it.

BournemouthMum wrote:

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

Fred21 wrote:
"I would insist on abortion" "abortion should be compulsory" What disgusting comments! That is still a child's life you are so flippantly ending! Yes its a parent and education fail, but abortion isn't the answer many childless couples would give a child a loving home!!

What kind of life?? Some feral future burden for the taxpayer. Fine keep it but they can find a way to pay it.

Absolutely. The child is doomed before it is even born, and will no doubt repeat the cycle.

best troll ever wrote:
congratulations to them both well done.

ASM wrote:
We all know what the future holds for this 2, they probably won't be together in 2 years time any way. Work should be compulsory for all capable parents who claim benefits. These kids aren't stupid, they know they can spend the rest of their lives in their nice little council house, having parties every night and playing playstation, with free housing, healthcare, schools and weekly allowance. Why not make scroungers/dossers/l ow-life's join the army or do community service for their 80 quid each per week, plus thousands of pounds worth of other benefits each month

burgerboy wrote:

best troll ever wrote:
congratulations to them both well done.

With this type of comment and the one you left about the young girl hurt by a skateboarder on yesterdays posts i really think you need checking out by the authorites reguarding your disturbing views on children.!!!!!

hammer wrote:
I bet you they ride their bicycles on the pavement as well!

ASM wrote:
We all know what the future holds for this 2, they probably won't be together in 2 years time any way. Work should be compulsory for all capable parents who claim benefits. These kids aren't stupid, they know they can spend the rest of their lives in their nice little council house, having parties every night and playing playstation, with free housing, healthcare, schools and weekly allowance. Why not make scroungers/dossers/l

ow-life's join the army or do community service for their 80 quid each per week, plus thousands of pounds worth of other benefits each month

BournemouthMum wrote:

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

Fred21 wrote:
"I would insist on abortion" "abortion should be compulsory" What disgusting comments! That is still a child's life you are so flippantly ending! Yes its a parent and education fail, but abortion isn't the answer many childless couples would give a child a loving home!!

What kind of life?? Some feral future burden for the taxpayer. Fine keep it but they can find a way to pay it.

Absolutely. The child is doomed before it is even born, and will no doubt repeat the cycle.

rach74 wrote:
as i said above earlier, why oh why print this story

Fred21 wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

Well said Lorrianea!!

best troll ever wrote:
burgerboy says...
11:31am Tue 11 Sep 12
With this type of comment and the one you left about the young girl hurt by a skateboarder on yesterdays posts i really think you need checking out by the authorites reguarding your disturbing views on children.!!!!!

BournemouthMum wrote:

rach74 wrote: as i said above earlier, why oh why print this story

Why print this story?... Umm let's see... because it's news, because it affects ALL of us (well us taxpayers who will be left to pick up the bill anyway), because it is in the public interest, because pregnancy in a person so young is (thankfully) extremely rare, because it has occurred in our area and this is a regional paper, etc. etc. etc.

joncon wrote:
As a wise man once said: judge not lest ye be judged. Everyone makes mistakes when they're young. Can anyone here say they didn't? And Jobseekers allowance is under £60.00 a week for the under 25's. It's only £71.00. a week for the over 25's. But why check your facts, eh?

best troll ever wrote:

best troll ever wrote:
burgerboy says...
11:31am Tue 11 Sep 12
With this type of comment and the one you left about the young girl hurt by a skateboarder on yesterdays posts i really think you need checking out by the authorites reguarding your disturbing views on children.!!!!!

Why!! you want to kill !! a little baby!!???
I would stick YOU in the army!!!!!

blakieboy7 wrote:
Bigtone is absolutely right. If the government DID NOT pay benefits, then people would think twice about bringing another life into this world. I say the government should take the children away from child parents and let them be adopted by loving, caring people who have jobs, stability etc but who cannot have kids!

RebeccaDeWinter wrote:
Why have they both not been arrested and charged with child abuse & rape? Both are underage & should be prosecuted.

Fred21 wrote:
"I would insist on abortion"
"abortion should be compulsory"

What disgusting comments! That is still a child's life you are so flippantly ending!

Yes its a parent and education fail, but abortion isn't the answer many childless couples would give a child a loving home!!

best troll ever wrote:

best troll ever wrote: burgerboy says... 11:31am Tue 11 Sep 12 With this type of comment and the one you left about the young girl hurt by a skateboarder on yesterdays posts i really think you need checking out by the authorites reguarding your disturbing views on children.!!!!!

Why!! you want to kill !! a little baby!!??? I would stick YOU in the army!!!!!

The Renegade Master wrote:
You are never going to stop teenagers having sex. They are bombarded from all sides with sexual imagery in films, tv programmes, music videos and magazines as well as their hormones going crazy, so it's no surprise that a few will "start early".
It's easy to pigeon hole these two youngsters as low intelligence, Council house dwelling low lifes with useless parents on benefits as some people here have done, but the reality is that they could just as easily be from Sandbanks with multi millionaire parents! We don't know.
We also don't know that the teenagers weren't practising safe sex. Prophylactics are not 100% guaranteed to work you know!
So let's not judge these two kids too harshly. We don't know the full story. You never know, they may both step up to the plate and become wonderful parents. Stranger things have happened.

best troll ever wrote:

best troll ever wrote:
burgerboy says...
11:31am Tue 11 Sep 12
With this type of comment and the one you left about the young girl hurt by a skateboarder on yesterdays posts i really think you need checking out by the authorites reguarding your disturbing views on children.!!!!!

Why!! you want to kill !! a little baby!!???
I would stick YOU in the army!!!!!

spooki wrote:

Fred21 wrote:
"I would insist on abortion"
"abortion should be compulsory"

What disgusting comments! That is still a child's life you are so flippantly ending!

Yes its a parent and education fail, but abortion isn't the answer many childless couples would give a child a loving home!!

So you think a thirteen year olds body is geared up ready for childbirth? Or to even carry a baby? I was 35 when I got pregnant and my body had trouble accepting it, how does a 13yr old do it? It's not flippant, I'm just considering the health of both of them.
Absolutely horrendous though.

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

lorrainea wrote:

Fred21 wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote: I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

Well said Lorrianea!!

Thanks Fred21...You will find that Bournemouth mum is as uneducated as the 13 year old .. FACT!

best troll ever wrote:

best troll ever wrote:
burgerboy says...
11:31am Tue 11 Sep 12
With this type of comment and the one you left about the young girl hurt by a skateboarder on yesterdays posts i really think you need checking out by the authorites reguarding your disturbing views on children.!!!!!

Why!! you want to kill !! a little baby!!???
I would stick YOU in the army!!!!!

best troll ever wrote:

best troll ever wrote:

best troll ever wrote:
burgerboy says...
11:31am Tue 11 Sep 12
With this type of comment and the one you left about the young girl hurt by a skateboarder on yesterdays posts i really think you need checking out by the authorites reguarding your disturbing views on children.!!!!!

Why!! you want to kill !! a little baby!!???
I would stick YOU in the army!!!!!

I mean to say 35 years old and dont know how to have a baby!!!!!!!
I got this book here you can borrow
its called-
. ..99 Shades Of Turling Moor.

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

Fred21 wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote: I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

Well said Lorrianea!!

Thanks Fred21...You will find that Bournemouth mum is as uneducated as the 13 year old .. FACT!

Unfortunately too many mothers are like you these days and need to be removed. . It's not my place or anyone elses to be forced into paying to raised yet more future parasitic scum at a more rapid pace. . If you can't understand such a simple concept I would be surprised if you went any further than the alphabet in your education.

ElmerFudd wrote:

The Renegade Master wrote:
You are never going to stop teenagers having sex. They are bombarded from all sides with sexual imagery in films, tv programmes, music videos and magazines as well as their hormones going crazy, so it's no surprise that a few will "start early".
It's easy to pigeon hole these two youngsters as low intelligence, Council house dwelling low lifes with useless parents on benefits as some people here have done, but the reality is that they could just as easily be from Sandbanks with multi millionaire parents! We don't know.
We also don't know that the teenagers weren't practising safe sex. Prophylactics are not 100% guaranteed to work you know!
So let's not judge these two kids too harshly. We don't know the full story. You never know, they may both step up to the plate and become wonderful parents. Stranger things have happened.

But, it is STILL statutory rape.

Fred21 wrote:

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

Fred21 wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote: I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

Well said Lorrianea!!

Thanks Fred21...You will find that Bournemouth mum is as uneducated as the 13 year old .. FACT!

Unfortunately too many mothers are like you these days and need to be removed. . It's not my place or anyone elses to be forced into paying to raised yet more future parasitic scum at a more rapid pace. . If you can't understand such a simple concept I would be surprised if you went any further than the alphabet in your education.

It is the uneducated that are unable to enter into a simply debate without slinging personal insults!

The Renegade Master wrote:

ElmerFudd wrote:

The Renegade Master wrote: You are never going to stop teenagers having sex. They are bombarded from all sides with sexual imagery in films, tv programmes, music videos and magazines as well as their hormones going crazy, so it's no surprise that a few will "start early". It's easy to pigeon hole these two youngsters as low intelligence, Council house dwelling low lifes with useless parents on benefits as some people here have done, but the reality is that they could just as easily be from Sandbanks with multi millionaire parents! We don't know. We also don't know that the teenagers weren't practising safe sex. Prophylactics are not 100% guaranteed to work you know! So let's not judge these two kids too harshly. We don't know the full story. You never know, they may both step up to the plate and become wonderful parents. Stranger things have happened.

But, it is STILL statutory rape.

What should happen in your opinion then? Have the lad sent to jail or maybe hung drawn and quartered? It takes two to tango and I'm certain the girl involved was every bit as much a willing participant as the boy.

RebeccaDeWinter wrote:
Why have they both not been arrested and charged with child abuse & rape? Both are underage & should be prosecuted.

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

The Renegade Master wrote:

ElmerFudd wrote:

The Renegade Master wrote: You are never going to stop teenagers having sex. They are bombarded from all sides with sexual imagery in films, tv programmes, music videos and magazines as well as their hormones going crazy, so it's no surprise that a few will "start early". It's easy to pigeon hole these two youngsters as low intelligence, Council house dwelling low lifes with useless parents on benefits as some people here have done, but the reality is that they could just as easily be from Sandbanks with multi millionaire parents! We don't know. We also don't know that the teenagers weren't practising safe sex. Prophylactics are not 100% guaranteed to work you know! So let's not judge these two kids too harshly. We don't know the full story. You never know, they may both step up to the plate and become wonderful parents. Stranger things have happened.

But, it is STILL statutory rape.

What should happen in your opinion then? Have the lad sent to jail or maybe hung drawn and quartered? It takes two to tango and I'm certain the girl involved was every bit as much a willing participant as the boy.

They were both raped by each other (legalislation wise). Yes charge both of them.

AFCBtree wrote:
Epic Fail! Should be a law somewhere that if you are pregnant and are 16yrs old or less then you should be forced to have an abortion. Everything has consequences and at that age you shouldnt be given the choice to have a baby when you cant support it financially or mentally.Why should we have to pay for it.

AFCBtree wrote:
Epic Fail!

Should be a law somewhere that if you are pregnant and are 16yrs old or less then you should be forced to have an abortion. Everything has consequences and at that age you shouldnt be given the choice to have a baby when you cant support it financially or mentally.Why should we have to pay for it.

rach74 wrote:

AFCBtree wrote:
Epic Fail! Should be a law somewhere that if you are pregnant and are 16yrs old or less then you should be forced to have an abortion. Everything has consequences and at that age you shouldnt be given the choice to have a baby when you cant support it financially or mentally.Why should we have to pay for it.

exactly

ElmerFudd wrote:
Is anyone actually REALLY surprised in todays chav-laden 'celebritney' culture. No doubt they will next be on Jeremy Kyle, hire Max to publicise their story and appear on some fly-on-the-wall documentary about trying to raise a child and juggling SATs revision, that’s assuming they actually do 'bovver' going to school.
Also I'm not surprised that the lily-livered namby-pambys in so-shal-services-inn

it's first court action is to hide their identities. At 13, the 'father' is at the age of criminal responsibility and, as I understand it, the law on statutory rape has not yet been repealed.
The first court action should have thus been charges against him, but again, that really is no surprise in today's society.

wizzydolphin wrote:

ASM wrote:
We all know what the future holds for this 2, they probably won't be together in 2 years time any way. Work should be compulsory for all capable parents who claim benefits. These kids aren't stupid, they know they can spend the rest of their lives in their nice little council house, having parties every night and playing playstation, with free housing, healthcare, schools and weekly allowance. Why not make scroungers/dossers/l


ow-life's join the army or do community service for their 80 quid each per week, plus thousands of pounds worth of other benefits each month

Please don't make them join the Army, my son and his friends all worked hard to join up, it has taken them a lot of dedication to get as far as they have. Community service yes, Army no

andyjb10 wrote:

rach74 wrote:

AFCBtree wrote: Epic Fail! Should be a law somewhere that if you are pregnant and are 16yrs old or less then you should be forced to have an abortion. Everything has consequences and at that age you shouldnt be given the choice to have a baby when you cant support it financially or mentally.Why should we have to pay for it.

exactly

Exactly what? Is that the scale of your intelligence to chip in with a one word answer in this matter. Plonker

andyjb10 wrote:

AFCBtree wrote:
Epic Fail!

Should be a law somewhere that if you are pregnant and are 16yrs old or less then you should be forced to have an abortion. Everything has consequences and at that age you shouldnt be given the choice to have a baby when you cant support it financially or mentally.Why should we have to pay for it.

What a nasty bit of work you sound like.

End a innocent child's life, for what reason? Does life mean that little?

Who is to say that the grandparents are not well off and will support the kids and baby?

Shame on you.

EGHH wrote:
This isn't a story! It's happening everyday in the UK. I firmly believe girls should be given the opportunity to have contraceptive implants as soon as they start their periods. Just because the Religious do-gooders (of all faiths) bury their heads in the sand does not mean kids aren't having sex!! Better to prevent a pregnancy than to have an unwanted child in the world.

BournemouthMum wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

AFCBtree wrote:
Epic Fail!

Should be a law somewhere that if you are pregnant and are 16yrs old or less then you should be forced to have an abortion. Everything has consequences and at that age you shouldnt be given the choice to have a baby when you cant support it financially or mentally.Why should we have to pay for it.

What a nasty bit of work you sound like.

End a innocent child's life, for what reason? Does life mean that little?

Who is to say that the grandparents are not well off and will support the kids and baby?

Shame on you.

Not quite 'ending an innocent child's life' as you put it. Terminating a pregnancy is just that, and there are many forms of contraception that effectively terminate pregnancies after conception - the coil and the morning after pill for example. If my daughter had got herself in this position at the age of 13 I would have taken control of the situation and taken her straight to a clinic to have a termination. At the age of 13 the girl will still be under the control of her parents and in allowing the pregnancy to continue they are not only placing a burden on taxpayers, but putting their 13 year old CHILD in a very damaging position, both medically and psycologically.

As others have suggested, there should be a law in force to ensure that this would be carried out, as no child of 13 is capable of carrying a pregnancy, giving birth and nurturing a baby without experiencing problems that will have an impact on her for the rest of her life.

rach74 wrote:

hammer wrote:
I bet you they ride their bicycles on the pavement as well!

doubt that. stay at home on computers more like

burgerboy wrote:

best troll ever wrote:

best troll ever wrote: burgerboy says... 11:31am Tue 11 Sep 12 With this type of comment and the one you left about the young girl hurt by a skateboarder on yesterdays posts i really think you need checking out by the authorites reguarding your disturbing views on children.!!!!!

Why!! you want to kill !! a little baby!!??? I would stick YOU in the army!!!!!

With your deranged comments and distubing views a stay in a secure establishment may be the best course of action for youself, then just maybe that will stop your perverse and disjointed rantings.(;o(.

BournemouthMum wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

AFCBtree wrote:
Epic Fail!

Should be a law somewhere that if you are pregnant and are 16yrs old or less then you should be forced to have an abortion. Everything has consequences and at that age you shouldnt be given the choice to have a baby when you cant support it financially or mentally.Why should we have to pay for it.

What a nasty bit of work you sound like.

End a innocent child's life, for what reason? Does life mean that little?

Who is to say that the grandparents are not well off and will support the kids and baby?

Shame on you.

Not quite 'ending an innocent child's life' as you put it. Terminating a pregnancy is just that, and there are many forms of contraception that effectively terminate pregnancies after conception - the coil and the morning after pill for example. If my daughter had got herself in this position at the age of 13 I would have taken control of the situation and taken her straight to a clinic to have a termination. At the age of 13 the girl will still be under the control of her parents and in allowing the pregnancy to continue they are not only placing a burden on taxpayers, but putting their 13 year old CHILD in a very damaging position, both medically and psycologically.

As others have suggested, there should be a law in force to ensure that this would be carried out, as no child of 13 is capable of carrying a pregnancy, giving birth and nurturing a baby without experiencing problems that will have an impact on her for the rest of her life.

giveusthefacts wrote:
And the parents are going along with their children becoming parents at that age are they?.
Apart from the fact that this is the result of underage sex, there is no excuse for an unplanned pregnancy in this day and age.

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
This is where abortion should be compulsory. This pair of idiots don't deserve support from the taxpayer. Their parents are still responsibly for their actions and should be made to face that responsibility.

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

Fred21 wrote:
"I would insist on abortion" "abortion should be compulsory" What disgusting comments! That is still a child's life you are so flippantly ending! Yes its a parent and education fail, but abortion isn't the answer many childless couples would give a child a loving home!!

What kind of life?? Some feral future burden for the taxpayer. Fine keep it but they can find a way to pay it.

The Renegade Master wrote:
You are never going to stop teenagers having sex. They are bombarded from all sides with sexual imagery in films, tv programmes, music videos and magazines as well as their hormones going crazy, so it's no surprise that a few will "start early".
It's easy to pigeon hole these two youngsters as low intelligence, Council house dwelling low lifes with useless parents on benefits as some people here have done, but the reality is that they could just as easily be from Sandbanks with multi millionaire parents! We don't know.
We also don't know that the teenagers weren't practising safe sex. Prophylactics are not 100% guaranteed to work you know!
So let's not judge these two kids too harshly. We don't know the full story. You never know, they may both step up to the plate and become wonderful parents. Stranger things have happened.

BournemouthMum wrote:

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

Fred21 wrote:
"I would insist on abortion" "abortion should be compulsory" What disgusting comments! That is still a child's life you are so flippantly ending! Yes its a parent and education fail, but abortion isn't the answer many childless couples would give a child a loving home!!

What kind of life?? Some feral future burden for the taxpayer. Fine keep it but they can find a way to pay it.

Absolutely. The child is doomed before it is even born, and will no doubt repeat the cycle.

BournemouthMum wrote:

rach74 wrote:
as i said above earlier, why oh why print this story

Why print this story?... Umm let's see... because it's news, because it affects ALL of us (well us taxpayers who will be left to pick up the bill anyway), because it is in the public interest, because pregnancy in a person so young is (thankfully) extremely rare, because it has occurred in our area and this is a regional paper, etc. etc. etc.

blakieboy7 wrote:
Bigtone is absolutely right. If the government DID NOT pay benefits, then people would think twice about bringing another life into this world. I say the government should take the children away from child parents and let them be adopted by loving, caring people who have jobs, stability etc but who cannot have kids!

spooki wrote:

Fred21 wrote:
"I would insist on abortion"
"abortion should be compulsory"

What disgusting comments! That is still a child's life you are so flippantly ending!

Yes its a parent and education fail, but abortion isn't the answer many childless couples would give a child a loving home!!

So you think a thirteen year olds body is geared up ready for childbirth? Or to even carry a baby? I was 35 when I got pregnant and my body had trouble accepting it, how does a 13yr old do it? It's not flippant, I'm just considering the health of both of them.
Absolutely horrendous though.

s-pb2 wrote:

The Renegade Master wrote:
You are never going to stop teenagers having sex. They are bombarded from all sides with sexual imagery in films, tv programmes, music videos and magazines as well as their hormones going crazy, so it's no surprise that a few will "start early".
It's easy to pigeon hole these two youngsters as low intelligence, Council house dwelling low lifes with useless parents on benefits as some people here have done, but the reality is that they could just as easily be from Sandbanks with multi millionaire parents! We don't know.
We also don't know that the teenagers weren't practising safe sex. Prophylactics are not 100% guaranteed to work you know!
So let's not judge these two kids too harshly. We don't know the full story. You never know, they may both step up to the plate and become wonderful parents. Stranger things have happened.

Renegade Master, at last someone who has engaged their brain before commenting. I agree with everything you say.

goatty wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

Oh, yes a 14 year old being a good mother. What a joke. Social Services should take the baby straight away and give it to people who are old enough to have children and are financially sound to look after them.
These pair of idiots will be sponging off the state and no doubt asking for a council flat as soon as they are 16. If they want a kid PAY FOR IT. If they want a home PAY FOR IT,

AFCBtree wrote:
Epic Fail!

Should be a law somewhere that if you are pregnant and are 16yrs old or less then you should be forced to have an abortion. Everything has consequences and at that age you shouldnt be given the choice to have a baby when you cant support it financially or mentally.Why should we have to pay for it.

AFCBtree wrote:
Epic Fail!

Should be a law somewhere that if you are pregnant and are 16yrs old or less then you should be forced to have an abortion. Everything has consequences and at that age you shouldnt be given the choice to have a baby when you cant support it financially or mentally.Why should we have to pay for it.

Hobad1 wrote:

s-pb2 wrote:

The Renegade Master wrote:
You are never going to stop teenagers having sex. They are bombarded from all sides with sexual imagery in films, tv programmes, music videos and magazines as well as their hormones going crazy, so it's no surprise that a few will "start early".
It's easy to pigeon hole these two youngsters as low intelligence, Council house dwelling low lifes with useless parents on benefits as some people here have done, but the reality is that they could just as easily be from Sandbanks with multi millionaire parents! We don't know.
We also don't know that the teenagers weren't practising safe sex. Prophylactics are not 100% guaranteed to work you know!
So let's not judge these two kids too harshly. We don't know the full story. You never know, they may both step up to the plate and become wonderful parents. Stranger things have happened.

Renegade Master, at last someone who has engaged their brain before commenting. I agree with everything you say.

"So let's not judge these two kids too harshly" and "at last someone who has engaged their brain before commenting"....it's underage sex. Enough said.

s-pb2 wrote:

Hobad1 wrote:

s-pb2 wrote:

The Renegade Master wrote:
You are never going to stop teenagers having sex. They are bombarded from all sides with sexual imagery in films, tv programmes, music videos and magazines as well as their hormones going crazy, so it's no surprise that a few will "start early".
It's easy to pigeon hole these two youngsters as low intelligence, Council house dwelling low lifes with useless parents on benefits as some people here have done, but the reality is that they could just as easily be from Sandbanks with multi millionaire parents! We don't know.
We also don't know that the teenagers weren't practising safe sex. Prophylactics are not 100% guaranteed to work you know!
So let's not judge these two kids too harshly. We don't know the full story. You never know, they may both step up to the plate and become wonderful parents. Stranger things have happened.

Renegade Master, at last someone who has engaged their brain before commenting. I agree with everything you say.

"So let's not judge these two kids too harshly" and "at last someone who has engaged their brain before commenting"....it's underage sex. Enough said.

Yes it is underage sex, but we also arent in the 1950s anymore, thank goodness. This couple should and will be given support to come to terms of this not vilified by people with pitchforks and burning torches in the local press.

Was Charlie wrote:
Several years ago I taught at a school where this happened to two pupils of similar age. They were actively having sex, but, like so many youngsters, had mistaken ideas on how to avoid pregnancy such as if you do it standing up, you won’t get pregnant. They’re not as knowledgeable as many think.
........
Naturally their names couldn't be kept secret as the pregnancy became obvious. Fortunately, they had support from both sets of parents and were advised by Social Services to do a deal with a national newspaper and get something out of their situation being reported to the whole country. The money was put in trust for the child’s future – not to be touched until he was 18.
.......
The boy was obviously less affected than the girl, but fortunately her parents helped raise the child so she could continue with her education and the boy and his parents were actively involved as well. Last I heard both had gone on to university and had worthwhile careers and the child was a well-balanced teenager.

crazymama146 wrote:
Why is their identity being protected? The first thing that should have been done is that they should have been prosecuted. Sex under 16 is illegal, and saying 'these things happen' is not going to discourage anyone, but prosecution would.

s-pb2 wrote:

goatty wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

Oh, yes a 14 year old being a good mother. What a joke. Social Services should take the baby straight away and give it to people who are old enough to have children and are financially sound to look after them.
These pair of idiots will be sponging off the state and no doubt asking for a council flat as soon as they are 16. If they want a kid PAY FOR IT. If they want a home PAY FOR IT,

So you know the couple and their backgrounds? Or is it just another ignorant comment?

goatty wrote:

s-pb2 wrote:

goatty wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

Oh, yes a 14 year old being a good mother. What a joke. Social Services should take the baby straight away and give it to people who are old enough to have children and are financially sound to look after them.
These pair of idiots will be sponging off the state and no doubt asking for a council flat as soon as they are 16. If they want a kid PAY FOR IT. If they want a home PAY FOR IT,

So you know the couple and their backgrounds? Or is it just another ignorant comment?

How would I know the backgrounds of a couple of irresponsible teenagers and don't call them a couple. They are simply to morons who the state will have to pick up the tab for. I wonder if the Government did not pay handouts and did not hand out Council Flats for Chavs with babies wether they'd still be popping them out? I think not.
If you think its a good idea for kids of this age to have babies and think it is correct for others like me to have pay for them, why don't you donate your wages, that is if you are actually working.
Can you imagine the life the poor little baby will have??? Its time this country got a grip with morons like this. Maybe a contraceptive implant by law until they are 18.

Wesoblind wrote:
parent fail

andyjb10 wrote:

goatty wrote:

s-pb2 wrote:

goatty wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

Oh, yes a 14 year old being a good mother. What a joke. Social Services should take the baby straight away and give it to people who are old enough to have children and are financially sound to look after them.
These pair of idiots will be sponging off the state and no doubt asking for a council flat as soon as they are 16. If they want a kid PAY FOR IT. If they want a home PAY FOR IT,

So you know the couple and their backgrounds? Or is it just another ignorant comment?

How would I know the backgrounds of a couple of irresponsible teenagers and don't call them a couple. They are simply to morons who the state will have to pick up the tab for. I wonder if the Government did not pay handouts and did not hand out Council Flats for Chavs with babies wether they'd still be popping them out? I think not.
If you think its a good idea for kids of this age to have babies and think it is correct for others like me to have pay for them, why don't you donate your wages, that is if you are actually working.
Can you imagine the life the poor little baby will have??? Its time this country got a grip with morons like this. Maybe a contraceptive implant by law until they are 18.

I think you need to take a long look in the mirror to see who the moron is if you honestly believe that a 13 & 14 year have a child to get a council house, that wouldn't of even crossed their minds you fool.

How do you know this baby will have a bad life? Do you know the families involved?

You talk utter tripe

Roband65 wrote:
My 8 year old read this on an echo billboard and told me ffs Turlin Moor,Rossmore take your pick didnt we hold the record for the youngest mother until recently !

goatty wrote:

s-pb2 wrote:

goatty wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

Oh, yes a 14 year old being a good mother. What a joke. Social Services should take the baby straight away and give it to people who are old enough to have children and are financially sound to look after them.
These pair of idiots will be sponging off the state and no doubt asking for a council flat as soon as they are 16. If they want a kid PAY FOR IT. If they want a home PAY FOR IT,

So you know the couple and their backgrounds? Or is it just another ignorant comment?

How would I know the backgrounds of a couple of irresponsible teenagers and don't call them a couple. They are simply to morons who the state will have to pick up the tab for. I wonder if the Government did not pay handouts and did not hand out Council Flats for Chavs with babies wether they'd still be popping them out? I think not.
If you think its a good idea for kids of this age to have babies and think it is correct for others like me to have pay for them, why don't you donate your wages, that is if you are actually working.
Can you imagine the life the poor little baby will have??? Its time this country got a grip with morons like this. Maybe a contraceptive implant by law until they are 18.

ElmerFudd wrote:
Is anyone actually REALLY surprised in todays chav-laden 'celebritney' culture. No doubt they will next be on Jeremy Kyle, hire Max to publicise their story and appear on some fly-on-the-wall documentary about trying to raise a child and juggling SATs revision, that’s assuming they actually do 'bovver' going to school.
Also I'm not surprised that the lily-livered namby-pambys in so-shal-services-inn

it's first court action is to hide their identities. At 13, the 'father' is at the age of criminal responsibility and, as I understand it, the law on statutory rape has not yet been repealed.
The first court action should have thus been charges against him, but again, that really is no surprise in today's society.

Hobad1 wrote:

s-pb2 wrote:

Hobad1 wrote:

s-pb2 wrote:

The Renegade Master wrote:
You are never going to stop teenagers having sex. They are bombarded from all sides with sexual imagery in films, tv programmes, music videos and magazines as well as their hormones going crazy, so it's no surprise that a few will "start early".
It's easy to pigeon hole these two youngsters as low intelligence, Council house dwelling low lifes with useless parents on benefits as some people here have done, but the reality is that they could just as easily be from Sandbanks with multi millionaire parents! We don't know.
We also don't know that the teenagers weren't practising safe sex. Prophylactics are not 100% guaranteed to work you know!
So let's not judge these two kids too harshly. We don't know the full story. You never know, they may both step up to the plate and become wonderful parents. Stranger things have happened.

Renegade Master, at last someone who has engaged their brain before commenting. I agree with everything you say.

"So let's not judge these two kids too harshly" and "at last someone who has engaged their brain before commenting"....it's underage sex. Enough said.

Yes it is underage sex, but we also arent in the 1950s anymore, thank goodness. This couple should and will be given support to come to terms of this not vilified by people with pitchforks and burning torches in the local press.

Rape, murder, money laundering, drug dealing all happened in the 50s. Are you saying we should turn a blind eye to them to ? I think you need some morals.

Was Charlie wrote:
Several years ago I taught at a school where this happened to two pupils of similar age. They were actively having sex, but, like so many youngsters, had mistaken ideas on how to avoid pregnancy such as if you do it standing up, you won’t get pregnant. They’re not as knowledgeable as many think.
........
Naturally their names couldn't be kept secret as the pregnancy became obvious. Fortunately, they had support from both sets of parents and were advised by Social Services to do a deal with a national newspaper and get something out of their situation being reported to the whole country. The money was put in trust for the child’s future – not to be touched until he was 18.
.......
The boy was obviously less affected than the girl, but fortunately her parents helped raise the child so she could continue with her education and the boy and his parents were actively involved as well. Last I heard both had gone on to university and had worthwhile careers and the child was a well-balanced teenager.

s-pb2 wrote:

Was Charlie wrote:
Several years ago I taught at a school where this happened to two pupils of similar age. They were actively having sex, but, like so many youngsters, had mistaken ideas on how to avoid pregnancy such as if you do it standing up, you won’t get pregnant. They’re not as knowledgeable as many think.
........
Naturally their names couldn't be kept secret as the pregnancy became obvious. Fortunately, they had support from both sets of parents and were advised by Social Services to do a deal with a national newspaper and get something out of their situation being reported to the whole country. The money was put in trust for the child’s future – not to be touched until he was 18.
.......
The boy was obviously less affected than the girl, but fortunately her parents helped raise the child so she could continue with her education and the boy and his parents were actively involved as well. Last I heard both had gone on to university and had worthwhile careers and the child was a well-balanced teenager.

Interesting account. Not sure that going to the national press was a good idea, but it looked as if things worked out for all , so pleased to hear. Good to see there are some of us on here today who dont seem to possess pitchforks and burning torches!

i hate do-gooders wrote:
im sorry but no one to blame but the parents !!!!then again i expect they are only a few years older than there kids so probably the norm for those people,anyway im sure they will be very happy in there 4 bed council house not having to do anything for thr rest of there live,oh sorry except pop out a new sprog every 4 years so they can keep staying on benefits,did i say kids or meal tickets !!!!!!!!! also how is this not a rape case as i thought the legal age was 15 or am i wrong ??? once again this joke of a justice system

alanhl wrote:

ElmerFudd wrote:
Is anyone actually REALLY surprised in todays chav-laden 'celebritney' culture. No doubt they will next be on Jeremy Kyle, hire Max to publicise their story and appear on some fly-on-the-wall documentary about trying to raise a child and juggling SATs revision, that’s assuming they actually do 'bovver' going to school.
Also I'm not surprised that the lily-livered namby-pambys in so-shal-services-inn


it's first court action is to hide their identities. At 13, the 'father' is at the age of criminal responsibility and, as I understand it, the law on statutory rape has not yet been repealed.
The first court action should have thus been charges against him, but again, that really is no surprise in today's society.

fortunately for the boy he has to be over 16 or 18 before it becomes statutory rape, not that i approve of the girls situation but i expect she was a willing partner. it's lack of education in that department that's the problem

The Renegade Master wrote:

ElmerFudd wrote:

The Renegade Master wrote:
You are never going to stop teenagers having sex. They are bombarded from all sides with sexual imagery in films, tv programmes, music videos and magazines as well as their hormones going crazy, so it's no surprise that a few will "start early".
It's easy to pigeon hole these two youngsters as low intelligence, Council house dwelling low lifes with useless parents on benefits as some people here have done, but the reality is that they could just as easily be from Sandbanks with multi millionaire parents! We don't know.
We also don't know that the teenagers weren't practising safe sex. Prophylactics are not 100% guaranteed to work you know!
So let's not judge these two kids too harshly. We don't know the full story. You never know, they may both step up to the plate and become wonderful parents. Stranger things have happened.

But, it is STILL statutory rape.

What should happen in your opinion then? Have the lad sent to jail or maybe hung drawn and quartered? It takes two to tango and I'm certain the girl involved was every bit as much a willing participant as the boy.

andyjb10 wrote:

crazymama146 wrote:
Why is their identity being protected? The first thing that should have been done is that they should have been prosecuted. Sex under 16 is illegal, and saying 'these things happen' is not going to discourage anyone, but prosecution would.

And what exactly would prosecuting them result in, please tell us clever clogs.

Why also should their identity be public knowledge? They are not a threat to you or I.

It really is scary that people such as yourself are aloud the vote.

Mr JoJo wrote:

ElmerFudd wrote:
Is anyone actually REALLY surprised in todays chav-laden 'celebritney' culture. No doubt they will next be on Jeremy Kyle, hire Max to publicise their story and appear on some fly-on-the-wall documentary about trying to raise a child and juggling SATs revision, that’s assuming they actually do 'bovver' going to school.
Also I'm not surprised that the lily-livered namby-pambys in so-shal-services-inn


it's first court action is to hide their identities. At 13, the 'father' is at the age of criminal responsibility and, as I understand it, the law on statutory rape has not yet been repealed.
The first court action should have thus been charges against him, but again, that really is no surprise in today's society.

Um, yeah... have you forgotten that the "mother" is also above the age of criminal responsibility and thus is equally culpable under the law for statutory rape, or does she get off because she was evidently a sweet innocent little girl who was tricked by that pervy boy right? Pfffh.

The SR law is there to protect naive children from adults who might take advantage of them, not to punish teens who make stupid mistakes with each other.

andyjb10 wrote:

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

The Renegade Master wrote:

ElmerFudd wrote:

The Renegade Master wrote: You are never going to stop teenagers having sex. They are bombarded from all sides with sexual imagery in films, tv programmes, music videos and magazines as well as their hormones going crazy, so it's no surprise that a few will "start early". It's easy to pigeon hole these two youngsters as low intelligence, Council house dwelling low lifes with useless parents on benefits as some people here have done, but the reality is that they could just as easily be from Sandbanks with multi millionaire parents! We don't know. We also don't know that the teenagers weren't practising safe sex. Prophylactics are not 100% guaranteed to work you know! So let's not judge these two kids too harshly. We don't know the full story. You never know, they may both step up to the plate and become wonderful parents. Stranger things have happened.

But, it is STILL statutory rape.

What should happen in your opinion then? Have the lad sent to jail or maybe hung drawn and quartered? It takes two to tango and I'm certain the girl involved was every bit as much a willing participant as the boy.

They were both raped by each other (legalislation wise). Yes charge both of them.

You complete boffon. Yes, send them both down for 10 years at the tax payers expense and leave the baby in the hands of someone else to deal with. What an utter moron you have made yourself sound like.

s-pb2 wrote:

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

Fred21 wrote: "I would insist on abortion" "abortion should be compulsory" What disgusting comments! That is still a child's life you are so flippantly ending! Yes its a parent and education fail, but abortion isn't the answer many childless couples would give a child a loving home!!

What kind of life?? Some feral future burden for the taxpayer. Fine keep it but they can find a way to pay it.

So you know the couple? You know where they come from? Their backgrounds? Thought not. Idiot comment

ElmerFudd wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

crazymama146 wrote:
Why is their identity being protected? The first thing that should have been done is that they should have been prosecuted. Sex under 16 is illegal, and saying 'these things happen' is not going to discourage anyone, but prosecution would.

And what exactly would prosecuting them result in, please tell us clever clogs.

Why also should their identity be public knowledge? They are not a threat to you or I.

It really is scary that people such as yourself are aloud the vote.

Blimey... and it's a scary thought that people such as you are allowed to attempt to spell or use proper grammar, especially when you patronise others as "clever clogs". Are you sure that you can actually read a voting slip?

chrspeters wrote:
I don’t seriously believe that is a photo of the ‘girls’ tum. Just taken from some archive to highlight the story.

s-pb2 wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:

rach74 wrote: as i said above earlier, why oh why print this story

Why print this story?... Umm let's see... because it's news, because it affects ALL of us (well us taxpayers who will be left to pick up the bill anyway), because it is in the public interest, because pregnancy in a person so young is (thankfully) extremely rare, because it has occurred in our area and this is a regional paper, etc. etc. etc.

No its not news, unless you are directly affected. No it doesnt affect all of us, otherwise according to you every announcement of a pregnancy should be reported. Again, no its not in the public interest, unless you get off on things like this. And the rest is just nonsense and arent reasons at all.

scrumpyjack wrote:
static kill says...

"Well at least now she has a reason to get a tattoo on her wrist.”

Brilliant. best quote of the day.

andyjb10 wrote:

ElmerFudd wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

crazymama146 wrote:
Why is their identity being protected? The first thing that should have been done is that they should have been prosecuted. Sex under 16 is illegal, and saying 'these things happen' is not going to discourage anyone, but prosecution would.

And what exactly would prosecuting them result in, please tell us clever clogs.

Why also should their identity be public knowledge? They are not a threat to you or I.

It really is scary that people such as yourself are aloud the vote.

Blimey... and it's a scary thought that people such as you are allowed to attempt to spell or use proper grammar, especially when you patronise others as "clever clogs". Are you sure that you can actually read a voting slip?

Yet still you haven't explained your reasons in believing why the identity of these two should be public knowledge?

Clearly jumping on a bandwagon without the intelligence to come up with your own thoughts.

Foolish.

In Absentia wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

AFCBtree wrote:
Epic Fail!

Should be a law somewhere that if you are pregnant and are 16yrs old or less then you should be forced to have an abortion. Everything has consequences and at that age you shouldnt be given the choice to have a baby when you cant support it financially or mentally.Why should we have to pay for it.

What a nasty bit of work you sound like.

End a innocent child's life, for what reason? Does life mean that little?

Who is to say that the grandparents are not well off and will support the kids and baby?

Shame on you.

Not quite 'ending an innocent child's life' as you put it. Terminating a pregnancy is just that, and there are many forms of contraception that effectively terminate pregnancies after conception - the coil and the morning after pill for example. If my daughter had got herself in this position at the age of 13 I would have taken control of the situation and taken her straight to a clinic to have a termination. At the age of 13 the girl will still be under the control of her parents and in allowing the pregnancy to continue they are not only placing a burden on taxpayers, but putting their 13 year old CHILD in a very damaging position, both medically and psycologically.

As others have suggested, there should be a law in force to ensure that this would be carried out, as no child of 13 is capable of carrying a pregnancy, giving birth and nurturing a baby without experiencing problems that will have an impact on her for the rest of her life.

What you're proposing is a form of eugenics. Something the Third Reich was very keen on.

You simply cannot have state sponsored termination of pregnancies for people under 16, who's the judge and jury in these cases? I don't think I'd want it to be someone thinking along economic lines like yourself?

Some of the callous remarks I've read on here really are pretty sickening. Again, I say the Echo is a disgrace for even reporting the case and their online editor is the same for allowing such a free for all of comment on here.

PooleParky wrote:

In Absentia wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

AFCBtree wrote:
Epic Fail!

Should be a law somewhere that if you are pregnant and are 16yrs old or less then you should be forced to have an abortion. Everything has consequences and at that age you shouldnt be given the choice to have a baby when you cant support it financially or mentally.Why should we have to pay for it.

What a nasty bit of work you sound like.

End a innocent child's life, for what reason? Does life mean that little?

Who is to say that the grandparents are not well off and will support the kids and baby?

Shame on you.

Not quite 'ending an innocent child's life' as you put it. Terminating a pregnancy is just that, and there are many forms of contraception that effectively terminate pregnancies after conception - the coil and the morning after pill for example. If my daughter had got herself in this position at the age of 13 I would have taken control of the situation and taken her straight to a clinic to have a termination. At the age of 13 the girl will still be under the control of her parents and in allowing the pregnancy to continue they are not only placing a burden on taxpayers, but putting their 13 year old CHILD in a very damaging position, both medically and psycologically.

As others have suggested, there should be a law in force to ensure that this would be carried out, as no child of 13 is capable of carrying a pregnancy, giving birth and nurturing a baby without experiencing problems that will have an impact on her for the rest of her life.

What you're proposing is a form of eugenics. Something the Third Reich was very keen on.

You simply cannot have state sponsored termination of pregnancies for people under 16, who's the judge and jury in these cases? I don't think I'd want it to be someone thinking along economic lines like yourself?

Some of the callous remarks I've read on here really are pretty sickening. Again, I say the Echo is a disgrace for even reporting the case and their online editor is the same for allowing such a free for all of comment on here.

Ding ding ding...Godwins Law

ElmerFudd wrote:

PooleParky wrote:

In Absentia wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

AFCBtree wrote: Epic Fail! Should be a law somewhere that if you are pregnant and are 16yrs old or less then you should be forced to have an abortion. Everything has consequences and at that age you shouldnt be given the choice to have a baby when you cant support it financially or mentally.Why should we have to pay for it.

What a nasty bit of work you sound like. End a innocent child's life, for what reason? Does life mean that little? Who is to say that the grandparents are not well off and will support the kids and baby? Shame on you.

Not quite 'ending an innocent child's life' as you put it. Terminating a pregnancy is just that, and there are many forms of contraception that effectively terminate pregnancies after conception - the coil and the morning after pill for example. If my daughter had got herself in this position at the age of 13 I would have taken control of the situation and taken her straight to a clinic to have a termination. At the age of 13 the girl will still be under the control of her parents and in allowing the pregnancy to continue they are not only placing a burden on taxpayers, but putting their 13 year old CHILD in a very damaging position, both medically and psycologically. As others have suggested, there should be a law in force to ensure that this would be carried out, as no child of 13 is capable of carrying a pregnancy, giving birth and nurturing a baby without experiencing problems that will have an impact on her for the rest of her life.

What you're proposing is a form of eugenics. Something the Third Reich was very keen on. You simply cannot have state sponsored termination of pregnancies for people under 16, who's the judge and jury in these cases? I don't think I'd want it to be someone thinking along economic lines like yourself? Some of the callous remarks I've read on here really are pretty sickening. Again, I say the Echo is a disgrace for even reporting the case and their online editor is the same for allowing such a free for all of comment on here.

Ding ding ding...Godwins Law

Yep... Godwin's Law alright. Well spotted :)

KitKatPuss wrote:

scrumpyjack wrote: static kill says... "Well at least now she has a reason to get a tattoo on her wrist.” Brilliant. best quote of the day.

Really????? So a tattoo on your wrist means what then? I have lots of tattoos, doesn't change the way I am and how I live my life.

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

KitKatPuss wrote:

scrumpyjack wrote: static kill says... "Well at least now she has a reason to get a tattoo on her wrist.” Brilliant. best quote of the day.

Really????? So a tattoo on your wrist means what then? I have lots of tattoos, doesn't change the way I am and how I live my life.

The ones under the wrist are generally referred to as tramp stamps. Thought that was common knowledge.

andyjb10 wrote:

Roband65 wrote:
My 8 year old read this on an echo billboard and told me ffs Turlin Moor,Rossmore take your pick didnt we hold the record for the youngest mother until recently !

Your 8 year old sounds like a right charmer

In Absentia wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

AFCBtree wrote:
Epic Fail!

Should be a law somewhere that if you are pregnant and are 16yrs old or less then you should be forced to have an abortion. Everything has consequences and at that age you shouldnt be given the choice to have a baby when you cant support it financially or mentally.Why should we have to pay for it.

What a nasty bit of work you sound like.

End a innocent child's life, for what reason? Does life mean that little?

Who is to say that the grandparents are not well off and will support the kids and baby?

Shame on you.

Not quite 'ending an innocent child's life' as you put it. Terminating a pregnancy is just that, and there are many forms of contraception that effectively terminate pregnancies after conception - the coil and the morning after pill for example. If my daughter had got herself in this position at the age of 13 I would have taken control of the situation and taken her straight to a clinic to have a termination. At the age of 13 the girl will still be under the control of her parents and in allowing the pregnancy to continue they are not only placing a burden on taxpayers, but putting their 13 year old CHILD in a very damaging position, both medically and psycologically.

As others have suggested, there should be a law in force to ensure that this would be carried out, as no child of 13 is capable of carrying a pregnancy, giving birth and nurturing a baby without experiencing problems that will have an impact on her for the rest of her life.

What you're proposing is a form of eugenics. Something the Third Reich was very keen on.

You simply cannot have state sponsored termination of pregnancies for people under 16, who's the judge and jury in these cases? I don't think I'd want it to be someone thinking along economic lines like yourself?

Some of the callous remarks I've read on here really are pretty sickening. Again, I say the Echo is a disgrace for even reporting the case and their online editor is the same for allowing such a free for all of comment on here.

static kill wrote:

KitKatPuss wrote:

scrumpyjack wrote:
static kill says...

"Well at least now she has a reason to get a tattoo on her wrist.”

Brilliant. best quote of the day.

Really????? So a tattoo on your wrist means what then? I have lots of tattoos, doesn't change the way I am and how I live my life.

No, but the way you are and how you live your life are probably reflected in the tattoos you chose to have.
Do you have your kids named tattooed on your wrists?

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

KitKatPuss wrote:

scrumpyjack wrote: static kill says... "Well at least now she has a reason to get a tattoo on her wrist.” Brilliant. best quote of the day.

Really????? So a tattoo on your wrist means what then? I have lots of tattoos, doesn't change the way I am and how I live my life.

The ones under the wrist are generally referred to as tramp stamps. Thought that was common knowledge.

KitKatPuss wrote:

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

KitKatPuss wrote:

scrumpyjack wrote: static kill says... "Well at least now she has a reason to get a tattoo on her wrist.” Brilliant. best quote of the day.

Really????? So a tattoo on your wrist means what then? I have lots of tattoos, doesn't change the way I am and how I live my life.

The ones under the wrist are generally referred to as tramp stamps. Thought that was common knowledge.

HRH, they may be commonly referred to as a tramp stamp as are tattoos on the lower back. However where a person chooses to get their tattoos does not always have to have a bearing on what they do and who they are!

Roband65 wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

Roband65 wrote:
My 8 year old read this on an echo billboard and told me ffs Turlin Moor,Rossmore take your pick didnt we hold the record for the youngest mother until recently !

Your 8 year old sounds like a right charmer

and you sound like a right dickh--d

andyjb10 wrote:

Roband65 wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

Roband65 wrote:
My 8 year old read this on an echo billboard and told me ffs Turlin Moor,Rossmore take your pick didnt we hold the record for the youngest mother until recently !

Your 8 year old sounds like a right charmer

and you sound like a right dickh--d

And it would now seem that your 8 year old has far more intelligence than yourself. Scary thought.

i hate do-gooders wrote:
im sorry but no one to blame but the parents !!!!then again i expect they are only a few years older than there kids so probably the norm for those people,anyway im sure they will be very happy in there 4 bed council house not having to do anything for thr rest of there live,oh sorry except pop out a new sprog every 4 years so they can keep staying on benefits,did i say kids or meal tickets !!!!!!!!! also how is this not a rape case as i thought the legal age was 15 or am i wrong ??? once again this joke of a justice system

andyjb10 wrote:

goatty wrote:

s-pb2 wrote:

goatty wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

Oh, yes a 14 year old being a good mother. What a joke. Social Services should take the baby straight away and give it to people who are old enough to have children and are financially sound to look after them.
These pair of idiots will be sponging off the state and no doubt asking for a council flat as soon as they are 16. If they want a kid PAY FOR IT. If they want a home PAY FOR IT,

So you know the couple and their backgrounds? Or is it just another ignorant comment?

How would I know the backgrounds of a couple of irresponsible teenagers and don't call them a couple. They are simply to morons who the state will have to pick up the tab for. I wonder if the Government did not pay handouts and did not hand out Council Flats for Chavs with babies wether they'd still be popping them out? I think not.
If you think its a good idea for kids of this age to have babies and think it is correct for others like me to have pay for them, why don't you donate your wages, that is if you are actually working.
Can you imagine the life the poor little baby will have??? Its time this country got a grip with morons like this. Maybe a contraceptive implant by law until they are 18.

I think you need to take a long look in the mirror to see who the moron is if you honestly believe that a 13 & 14 year have a child to get a council house, that wouldn't of even crossed their minds you fool.

How do you know this baby will have a bad life? Do you know the families involved?

You talk utter tripe

jeebuscripes wrote:
This is brilliant. This is just like an episode of Jeremy Kyle, except the audience (the Echo commenters) have been given the microphone.

An article like this is golddust, it really is. I can just imagine some of the readers and commenters frothing at the mouth ready to decry the collapse of civilisation.

LOVE IT.

Keep up the great work.

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

s-pb2 wrote:

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

Fred21 wrote: "I would insist on abortion" "abortion should be compulsory" What disgusting comments! That is still a child's life you are so flippantly ending! Yes its a parent and education fail, but abortion isn't the answer many childless couples would give a child a loving home!!

What kind of life?? Some feral future burden for the taxpayer. Fine keep it but they can find a way to pay it.

So you know the couple? You know where they come from? Their backgrounds? Thought not. Idiot comment

Idiotic comment would probably be more appropriate. Of course I know where they come from and what their backgrounds are like. There situation explains it all.

Mike Pickering wrote:
Very good, s-pb2, I wholeheartedly agree. As indeed was ever thus, for the greatest part of human history, 250,000 years until about 75 years ago, it was not at all uncommon for young people to have babies at this age, and the challenges they faced must have been almost identical to those these kids face.
I wish them all the luck in the world, and not just because they're going to need it - all young (and not so young parents) do. Nothing can prepare you for the hard work and sometimes seemingly crushing responsibility that being a new parent will bring, but also no one could prepare you for the love you can feel for a new life, and how nurturing them changes your whole outlook on life and who you are.
That's hard when you're not fully grown, but not impossible.
With all the compassion and hope in the world I wish them all the best - as a long-time tax payer I wouldn't begrudge them one penny that might or might not get from the state; if I knew who they were I'd buy them some baby clothes. Why are people on here so brave and full of spit and bile - if you knew them, or they were a family member, you wouldn't make such terrible comments, and it's only to the extent that it's a story in a paper you read that it's any of your **** business, you foul-mouthed bunch of half-wits.

goatty wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

goatty wrote:

s-pb2 wrote:

goatty wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

Oh, yes a 14 year old being a good mother. What a joke. Social Services should take the baby straight away and give it to people who are old enough to have children and are financially sound to look after them.
These pair of idiots will be sponging off the state and no doubt asking for a council flat as soon as they are 16. If they want a kid PAY FOR IT. If they want a home PAY FOR IT,

So you know the couple and their backgrounds? Or is it just another ignorant comment?

How would I know the backgrounds of a couple of irresponsible teenagers and don't call them a couple. They are simply to morons who the state will have to pick up the tab for. I wonder if the Government did not pay handouts and did not hand out Council Flats for Chavs with babies wether they'd still be popping them out? I think not.
If you think its a good idea for kids of this age to have babies and think it is correct for others like me to have pay for them, why don't you donate your wages, that is if you are actually working.
Can you imagine the life the poor little baby will have??? Its time this country got a grip with morons like this. Maybe a contraceptive implant by law until they are 18.

I think you need to take a long look in the mirror to see who the moron is if you honestly believe that a 13 & 14 year have a child to get a council house, that wouldn't of even crossed their minds you fool.

How do you know this baby will have a bad life? Do you know the families involved?

You talk utter tripe

and it is people like you you that that encourage this sort of 'sickness' in our society. Obviously a Liberal do gooder, not working and sponging off the state as it is clear that you think it is a good idea to do so. I expect these little chavs will live with Mommy and daddy in their 4 bedroom council house, and the parents will be asking for more money to look after the new addition!

CherrySi wrote:
Wow thanks, your really spoiling us taxpayers....can't wait to pay for your housing, child care, benefits...Xmas come early!!

andyjb10 wrote:

goatty wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

goatty wrote:

s-pb2 wrote:

goatty wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

Oh, yes a 14 year old being a good mother. What a joke. Social Services should take the baby straight away and give it to people who are old enough to have children and are financially sound to look after them.
These pair of idiots will be sponging off the state and no doubt asking for a council flat as soon as they are 16. If they want a kid PAY FOR IT. If they want a home PAY FOR IT,

So you know the couple and their backgrounds? Or is it just another ignorant comment?

How would I know the backgrounds of a couple of irresponsible teenagers and don't call them a couple. They are simply to morons who the state will have to pick up the tab for. I wonder if the Government did not pay handouts and did not hand out Council Flats for Chavs with babies wether they'd still be popping them out? I think not.
If you think its a good idea for kids of this age to have babies and think it is correct for others like me to have pay for them, why don't you donate your wages, that is if you are actually working.
Can you imagine the life the poor little baby will have??? Its time this country got a grip with morons like this. Maybe a contraceptive implant by law until they are 18.

I think you need to take a long look in the mirror to see who the moron is if you honestly believe that a 13 & 14 year have a child to get a council house, that wouldn't of even crossed their minds you fool.

How do you know this baby will have a bad life? Do you know the families involved?

You talk utter tripe

and it is people like you you that that encourage this sort of 'sickness' in our society. Obviously a Liberal do gooder, not working and sponging off the state as it is clear that you think it is a good idea to do so. I expect these little chavs will live with Mommy and daddy in their 4 bedroom council house, and the parents will be asking for more money to look after the new addition!

You sound like a complete numpty and have once again shown yourself up.

I work thank you very much and I'd quite easily hazard a guess I pay far more tax than you, however that has nothing to do with this matter.

I'm not for one minute congratulating these two, nor am I liberal go gooder as you so stupidly put it. I'm simply saying that if you don't have all the facts, who the hell are you to make such naive comments.

R1Dan123 wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

goatty wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

goatty wrote:

s-pb2 wrote:

goatty wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

Oh, yes a 14 year old being a good mother. What a joke. Social Services should take the baby straight away and give it to people who are old enough to have children and are financially sound to look after them.
These pair of idiots will be sponging off the state and no doubt asking for a council flat as soon as they are 16. If they want a kid PAY FOR IT. If they want a home PAY FOR IT,

So you know the couple and their backgrounds? Or is it just another ignorant comment?

How would I know the backgrounds of a couple of irresponsible teenagers and don't call them a couple. They are simply to morons who the state will have to pick up the tab for. I wonder if the Government did not pay handouts and did not hand out Council Flats for Chavs with babies wether they'd still be popping them out? I think not.
If you think its a good idea for kids of this age to have babies and think it is correct for others like me to have pay for them, why don't you donate your wages, that is if you are actually working.
Can you imagine the life the poor little baby will have??? Its time this country got a grip with morons like this. Maybe a contraceptive implant by law until they are 18.

I think you need to take a long look in the mirror to see who the moron is if you honestly believe that a 13 & 14 year have a child to get a council house, that wouldn't of even crossed their minds you fool.

How do you know this baby will have a bad life? Do you know the families involved?

You talk utter tripe

and it is people like you you that that encourage this sort of 'sickness' in our society. Obviously a Liberal do gooder, not working and sponging off the state as it is clear that you think it is a good idea to do so. I expect these little chavs will live with Mommy and daddy in their 4 bedroom council house, and the parents will be asking for more money to look after the new addition!

You sound like a complete numpty and have once again shown yourself up.

I work thank you very much and I'd quite easily hazard a guess I pay far more tax than you, however that has nothing to do with this matter.

I'm not for one minute congratulating these two, nor am I liberal go gooder as you so stupidly put it. I'm simply saying that if you don't have all the facts, who the hell are you to make such naive comments.

Here are the facts, these kids broke the law, let's face it, the modern society is full of do gooders... Kids think they can do anything... Remember the time a police officer slapped a kid and the upraw it caused? Ever since kids show no respect... Now your saying that a 13 year old mother is acceptable? I agree, you are a liberal do gooder! And if your playing tit for tat, I think I pay more tax than you, and this is the one reason why myself and other 'high earners' end up moving abroad Cyprus or UAE etc, therefore taking money OUT of this country, all because people/kids can't keep there trousers on or simply think its cool not to bag up!
Well thanks all you liberal do gooders cause the way I see it, you ruin this country!

R1Dan123 wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

goatty wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

goatty wrote:

s-pb2 wrote:

goatty wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

Oh, yes a 14 year old being a good mother. What a joke. Social Services should take the baby straight away and give it to people who are old enough to have children and are financially sound to look after them.
These pair of idiots will be sponging off the state and no doubt asking for a council flat as soon as they are 16. If they want a kid PAY FOR IT. If they want a home PAY FOR IT,

So you know the couple and their backgrounds? Or is it just another ignorant comment?

How would I know the backgrounds of a couple of irresponsible teenagers and don't call them a couple. They are simply to morons who the state will have to pick up the tab for. I wonder if the Government did not pay handouts and did not hand out Council Flats for Chavs with babies wether they'd still be popping them out? I think not.
If you think its a good idea for kids of this age to have babies and think it is correct for others like me to have pay for them, why don't you donate your wages, that is if you are actually working.
Can you imagine the life the poor little baby will have??? Its time this country got a grip with morons like this. Maybe a contraceptive implant by law until they are 18.

I think you need to take a long look in the mirror to see who the moron is if you honestly believe that a 13 & 14 year have a child to get a council house, that wouldn't of even crossed their minds you fool.

How do you know this baby will have a bad life? Do you know the families involved?

You talk utter tripe

and it is people like you you that that encourage this sort of 'sickness' in our society. Obviously a Liberal do gooder, not working and sponging off the state as it is clear that you think it is a good idea to do so. I expect these little chavs will live with Mommy and daddy in their 4 bedroom council house, and the parents will be asking for more money to look after the new addition!

You sound like a complete numpty and have once again shown yourself up.

I work thank you very much and I'd quite easily hazard a guess I pay far more tax than you, however that has nothing to do with this matter.

I'm not for one minute congratulating these two, nor am I liberal go gooder as you so stupidly put it. I'm simply saying that if you don't have all the facts, who the hell are you to make such naive comments.

Here are the facts, these kids broke the law, let's face it, the modern society is full of do gooders... Kids think they can do anything... Remember the time a police officer slapped a kid and the upraw it caused? Ever since kids show no respect... Now your saying that a 13 year old mother is acceptable? I agree, you are a liberal do gooder! And if your playing tit for tat, I think I pay more tax than you, and this is the one reason why myself and other 'high earners' end up moving abroad Cyprus or UAE etc, therefore taking money OUT of this country, all because people/kids can't keep there trousers on or simply think its cool not to bag up!
Well thanks all you liberal do gooders cause the way I see it, you ruin this country!

leanne101 wrote:

R1Dan123 wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

goatty wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

goatty wrote:

s-pb2 wrote:

goatty wrote:

lorrainea wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

Insist on an abortion and let her live with that for the rest of her life. You selfish woman! Hopefully the child will not be put up for adoption but will be kept with its birth mother where it will no doubt be loved. God forbid if we all had a mother like you!

Oh, yes a 14 year old being a good mother. What a joke. Social Services should take the baby straight away and give it to people who are old enough to have children and are financially sound to look after them.
These pair of idiots will be sponging off the state and no doubt asking for a council flat as soon as they are 16. If they want a kid PAY FOR IT. If they want a home PAY FOR IT,

So you know the couple and their backgrounds? Or is it just another ignorant comment?

How would I know the backgrounds of a couple of irresponsible teenagers and don't call them a couple. They are simply to morons who the state will have to pick up the tab for. I wonder if the Government did not pay handouts and did not hand out Council Flats for Chavs with babies wether they'd still be popping them out? I think not.
If you think its a good idea for kids of this age to have babies and think it is correct for others like me to have pay for them, why don't you donate your wages, that is if you are actually working.
Can you imagine the life the poor little baby will have??? Its time this country got a grip with morons like this. Maybe a contraceptive implant by law until they are 18.

I think you need to take a long look in the mirror to see who the moron is if you honestly believe that a 13 & 14 year have a child to get a council house, that wouldn't of even crossed their minds you fool.

How do you know this baby will have a bad life? Do you know the families involved?

You talk utter tripe

and it is people like you you that that encourage this sort of 'sickness' in our society. Obviously a Liberal do gooder, not working and sponging off the state as it is clear that you think it is a good idea to do so. I expect these little chavs will live with Mommy and daddy in their 4 bedroom council house, and the parents will be asking for more money to look after the new addition!

You sound like a complete numpty and have once again shown yourself up.

I work thank you very much and I'd quite easily hazard a guess I pay far more tax than you, however that has nothing to do with this matter.

I'm not for one minute congratulating these two, nor am I liberal go gooder as you so stupidly put it. I'm simply saying that if you don't have all the facts, who the hell are you to make such naive comments.

Here are the facts, these kids broke the law, let's face it, the modern society is full of do gooders... Kids think they can do anything... Remember the time a police officer slapped a kid and the upraw it caused? Ever since kids show no respect... Now your saying that a 13 year old mother is acceptable? I agree, you are a liberal do gooder! And if your playing tit for tat, I think I pay more tax than you, and this is the one reason why myself and other 'high earners' end up moving abroad Cyprus or UAE etc, therefore taking money OUT of this country, all because people/kids can't keep there trousers on or simply think its cool not to bag up!
Well thanks all you liberal do gooders cause the way I see it, you ruin this country!

I agree with you. I think if benefits and free housing wasn't so available not many people would be so keen to have children they have no way of supporting. It's only because they know that mug taxpayers will pay for them that they choose to live feckless lifestyles. It is time this was stopped. Council housing should be allocated to people who work hard but are on a lower income and find it difficult to afford private rented housing or a mortgage. We should stop giving and giving because scroungers contribute nothing at all to our society.

rach74 wrote:
as i said above earlier, why oh why print this story

ledge374 wrote:

rach74 wrote:
as i said above earlier, why oh why print this story

They print it so every one with a view can get on their soap box and tell everyone else that theirs is wrong, it creates more hits on their website every time someone feels the need to reply to another comment. Good marketing if you ask me. Its amazing how on every story the same few always turn it personal and turn it into a slangfest. Story aside, the biggest failing is everyones attitude towards each other on here.

Amelia_40 wrote:

ledge374 wrote:

rach74 wrote:
as i said above earlier, why oh why print this story

They print it so every one with a view can get on their soap box and tell everyone else that theirs is wrong, it creates more hits on their website every time someone feels the need to reply to another comment. Good marketing if you ask me. Its amazing how on every story the same few always turn it personal and turn it into a slangfest. Story aside, the biggest failing is everyones attitude towards each other on here.

It is sad when people do that because it often leads to the comments being removed. Everyone is entitled to their view and personally I wouldn't slate anyone for having a view that opposes my own. Fortunately we live in a society where free speech is allowed.

To add to that I would also say that those who are saying that this story shouldn't have been made public - it hasn't, we do not know the names of those involved only that a 13 year old is pregnant. And as others have pointed out it IS our business because those of us who work (or in my case own businesses) will be paying for this so we have a right to an opinion on it.

Amelia_40 wrote:

ledge374 wrote:

rach74 wrote:
as i said above earlier, why oh why print this story

They print it so every one with a view can get on their soap box and tell everyone else that theirs is wrong, it creates more hits on their website every time someone feels the need to reply to another comment. Good marketing if you ask me. Its amazing how on every story the same few always turn it personal and turn it into a slangfest. Story aside, the biggest failing is everyones attitude towards each other on here.

It is sad when people do that because it often leads to the comments being removed. Everyone is entitled to their view and personally I wouldn't slate anyone for having a view that opposes my own. Fortunately we live in a society where free speech is allowed.

To add to that I would also say that those who are saying that this story shouldn't have been made public - it hasn't, we do not know the names of those involved only that a 13 year old is pregnant. And as others have pointed out it IS our business because those of us who work (or in my case own businesses) will be paying for this so we have a right to an opinion on it.

Hobad1 wrote:

burgerboy wrote:

best troll ever wrote:

best troll ever wrote: burgerboy says... 11:31am Tue 11 Sep 12 With this type of comment and the one you left about the young girl hurt by a skateboarder on yesterdays posts i really think you need checking out by the authorites reguarding your disturbing views on children.!!!!!

Why!! you want to kill !! a little baby!!??? I would stick YOU in the army!!!!!

With your deranged comments and distubing views a stay in a secure establishment may be the best course of action for youself, then just maybe that will stop your perverse and disjointed rantings.(;o(.

Agree with you burgerboy. Judging by his comments, `best troll ever' does seem to be a wierdo, or a wind-up-merchant. Either way he or she is not contributing anything meaningful to this discussion.

TheBiggestFanOfGersh
win wrote:
Personally, I feel that abortion is the only viable route, this girl's vulva will not dilate enough to have the baby born naturally and C-section would be rather dangerous (not to mention the horrific scars)

I understand that people here are very anti-abortion, I accept you opinions, but stop throwing around insults just because someone suggests it. It's not a swearword, you don't need to punish people for using it!

This is a simple matter of realisation for the children in question. If I were the boy, I would have wanted her to abort (NO 13/14 year old boy wants to be a father, this was also probably his first sexual interaction and chances are, he't not going to be proud of this) Secondly, if I were the girl, I would want to keep it, but that's because that's what women are like, you hold life with higher values than men (sorry for the generalisation, but just go with it). As for the parents, if I was the boy's Dad, I would chastise him, if I were the girl's Dad, I'd want to kill the boy.

Abortion, in my eyes, is the only way to remedy this. Else, neither of them will have a normal, teenage life.

TheBogeyMan wrote:

TheBiggestFanOfGersh win wrote: Personally, I feel that abortion is the only viable route, this girl's vulva will not dilate enough to have the baby born naturally and C-section would be rather dangerous (not to mention the horrific scars) I understand that people here are very anti-abortion, I accept you opinions, but stop throwing around insults just because someone suggests it. It's not a swearword, you don't need to punish people for using it! This is a simple matter of realisation for the children in question. If I were the boy, I would have wanted her to abort (NO 13/14 year old boy wants to be a father, this was also probably his first sexual interaction and chances are, he't not going to be proud of this) Secondly, if I were the girl, I would want to keep it, but that's because that's what women are like, you hold life with higher values than men (sorry for the generalisation, but just go with it). As for the parents, if I was the boy's Dad, I would chastise him, if I were the girl's Dad, I'd want to kill the boy. Abortion, in my eyes, is the only way to remedy this. Else, neither of them will have a normal, teenage life.

Here here mate.

Amelia_40 wrote:
This girl should have had an abortion. Any sensible person would realise that a 13 year old would not be able to support a baby. I can't believe that there are comments here stating that the parents could be wealthy etc. when we all know that is not the case. If they are wealthy then Social Services wouldn't have become involved as the family would have provided adequate provision and support for their daughter and we would not know about the case. Social Services obtained a court order to prevent the names being made public for a good reason.

Social Services were probably involved with the familiy aleady otherwise who would have brought it to their attention? I think most of us have the intelligence and wisdom to deduce those things from the story. Others obviously prefer to live in cloud cuckoo land.

Was Charlie wrote:
Several years ago I taught at a school where this happened to two pupils of similar age. They were actively having sex, but, like so many youngsters, had mistaken ideas on how to avoid pregnancy such as if you do it standing up, you won’t get pregnant. They’re not as knowledgeable as many think.
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Naturally their names couldn't be kept secret as the pregnancy became obvious. Fortunately, they had support from both sets of parents and were advised by Social Services to do a deal with a national newspaper and get something out of their situation being reported to the whole country. The money was put in trust for the child’s future – not to be touched until he was 18.
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The boy was obviously less affected than the girl, but fortunately her parents helped raise the child so she could continue with her education and the boy and his parents were actively involved as well. Last I heard both had gone on to university and had worthwhile careers and the child was a well-balanced teenager.

BournemouthMum wrote:
I'd be horrified if this was my daughter. I'd be insisting on an abortion. Children having children is ridicullous and what chance does this poor mite have being brought into the world by 'parents' who can barely take care of themselves. Hopefully the child will be put up for adoption so it can at least have a decent start in life.

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HRH of Boscombe wrote:

KitKatPuss wrote:

scrumpyjack wrote: static kill says... "Well at least now she has a reason to get a tattoo on her wrist.” Brilliant. best quote of the day.

Really????? So a tattoo on your wrist means what then? I have lots of tattoos, doesn't change the way I am and how I live my life.

The ones under the wrist are generally referred to as tramp stamps. Thought that was common knowledge.

HRH, they may be commonly referred to as a tramp stamp as are tattoos on the lower back. However where a person chooses to get their tattoos does not always have to have a bearing on what they do and who they are!

Really?? It is like wearing a label.

TheBiggestFanOfGersh
win wrote:
Personally, I feel that abortion is the only viable route, this girl's vulva will not dilate enough to have the baby born naturally and C-section would be rather dangerous (not to mention the horrific scars)

I understand that people here are very anti-abortion, I accept you opinions, but stop throwing around insults just because someone suggests it. It's not a swearword, you don't need to punish people for using it!

This is a simple matter of realisation for the children in question. If I were the boy, I would have wanted her to abort (NO 13/14 year old boy wants to be a father, this was also probably his first sexual interaction and chances are, he't not going to be proud of this) Secondly, if I were the girl, I would want to keep it, but that's because that's what women are like, you hold life with higher values than men (sorry for the generalisation, but just go with it). As for the parents, if I was the boy's Dad, I would chastise him, if I were the girl's Dad, I'd want to kill the boy.

Abortion, in my eyes, is the only way to remedy this. Else, neither of them will have a normal, teenage life.