Blame games as traders claim business harmed by Olympics

Bournemouth Echo: Few people on Weymouth’s quayside Few people on Weymouth’s quayside

TRADERS claim they are losing up to 50 per cent of their business as visitors shun the Olympics in Weymouth and Portland .

Organisers predicted an extra 30,000 visitors a day flocking into the resort during the Sailing events – but the town has been much quieter than anticipated.

There are now claims that the predictions of congestion – with warning signs as far away as Southampton and Bristol warning motorists of delays – have scared people away.

The signs have now been changed to: ‘Weymouth 2012 games No Delays’ in a bid to get more people to come.

Park and Ride sites at Monkey’s Jump and Kingston Maurward, with a combined capacity of 5,235 have stood virtually empty at times.

Businesses away from the beach claim that people have deserted the town and hat they are struggling after a dreadful summer so far.

The Bayside Festival has slashed entry fees and the price of tickets for evening concerts in a bid to boost numbers.

But the council and traders say there is still time to turn it around and people are being encouraged to get the message out via social networks.

Margaret Turner, of Seacrest Guesthouse, said: “It has been terrible so far. About 75 per cent of my rooms are empty. I think people are staying away, not just because of the Olympics, but because of the recession.

“They need to stop telling people to stay away. The adverts saying how busy it is are not helping.”

David Harris, of the fruit stall in St Mary Street, said: “Business has been rubbish. It’s not that people aren’t visiting, because they are. But they are not spending in town.

“It is tight at the moment and people are watching the pennies. There is nothing the council can do. They have got people here, and they can’t force them to spend money.”

Jane Germon, of Queen of Hearts newsagents and gift shop, St Alban Street, said: “It has been disastrous.

“They have told people to stay away and not use their cars and that is what people are doing.

“It is too late now to improve the situation now. It is a shame because the Olympics was hyped up so much.”

Gordon Clarke, manager of Seas the Moment seafood shop near Hope Square, said: “We are not doing well at all.

“It is nothing exceptional, the Olympic Sailing has not benefited us at all.

“It is the quietest it has been in Weymouth in years at this time of year.

“The road system in place doesn't work and locals aren’t coming down because they can’t park anywhere.”

 

"More visitors are expected"

 

LOCAL Olympic organisers refused to be drawn on why their estimates of the number of visitors were so wide of the mark.


And they wouldn’t comment on the concerns raised by traders that their trade was down by around 50 per cent. They issued a statement claiming that more than 11,000 people watched the opening ceremony on Weymouth beach and Weymouth and Portland have received an unprecedented level of global media coverage.


They said: “With the Olympic medal races still to begin, more visitors are expected to arrive to enjoy a unique seaside experience.”


Dorset Olympic Board chairman Angus Campbell said: “The transport system has been working well. Transport plans do have to cover every eventuality and be flexible enough to cope with large numbers of visitors. However, we and our transport partners are responding to local concerns about visitor numbers by promoting the various options for getting to Weymouth and Portland.
“There is capacity on both the road and public transport networks, so I’d encourage people to come and enjoy the Olympic atmosphere.”


A spokesperson from the Highways Agency added: “It became clear over the weekend that traffic was running smoothly on all routes into Dorset and as a result the Highways Agency reacted quickly by changing the messaging to advise there were no delays.”

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11:49am Tue 31 Jul 12

satisfecho says...

Even though it's not good for local traders it's good that they can be honest enough to blame some of this on the recession.

As they rightly said, they can't force people to spend money.
Even though it's not good for local traders it's good that they can be honest enough to blame some of this on the recession. As they rightly said, they can't force people to spend money. satisfecho

11:49am Tue 31 Jul 12

weypaul says...

All this is sadly true. A small number of businesses will do well but most will be very badly hit.
There is no point in trying to distribute too much blame - most of us were over the moon when we knew Weymouth had won the Olympics.
Where blame can be attached is to our local Authorities; for the idiotic and insensitive way the TWO YEARS of roadworks were carried out, which has already devastated a number of businesses beyond the point of no return; and for the imbecility of allowing the message to be propagated that Weymouth was going to be inaccessible this summer. 30,000 visitors a day - was there really anybody who believed this? And even if it were true, it would not have replaced the thousands of lost ordinary visitors.
The Sailing Olympics are wonderful and I am proud to see it happening in my home town, but there is going to be a lot of pain and a lot of recrimination afterwards.
All this is sadly true. A small number of businesses will do well but most will be very badly hit. There is no point in trying to distribute too much blame - most of us were over the moon when we knew Weymouth had won the Olympics. Where blame can be attached is to our local Authorities; for the idiotic and insensitive way the TWO YEARS of roadworks were carried out, which has already devastated a number of businesses beyond the point of no return; and for the imbecility of allowing the message to be propagated that Weymouth was going to be inaccessible this summer. 30,000 visitors a day - was there really anybody who believed this? And even if it were true, it would not have replaced the thousands of lost ordinary visitors. The Sailing Olympics are wonderful and I am proud to see it happening in my home town, but there is going to be a lot of pain and a lot of recrimination afterwards. weypaul

12:05pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Crabber says...

'IF YOU BUILD IT,THEY WON'T COME...... As said many times in the last 2 years WHITE ELEPHANT. As for all those 'Grockles' who have been coming to Weymuff for years and haven't come this year ,they have probably gone to Torbay or The Isle of Wight and I am afraid that's where they'll be going in the future. Even Condor made a mountain out of a molehill to get out of the Harbour. As you walk down St Marys / St Thomas Street mind the Tumbleweeds. Oh and it will even worse when Debenhams move into the Brewery Complex in Dorchester very soon and close Weymuffs store
'IF YOU BUILD IT,THEY WON'T COME...... As said many times in the last 2 years WHITE ELEPHANT. As for all those 'Grockles' who have been coming to Weymuff for years and haven't come this year ,they have probably gone to Torbay or The Isle of Wight and I am afraid that's where they'll be going in the future. Even Condor made a mountain out of a molehill to get out of the Harbour. As you walk down St Marys / St Thomas Street mind the Tumbleweeds. Oh and it will even worse when Debenhams move into the Brewery Complex in Dorchester very soon and close Weymuffs store Crabber

12:14pm Tue 31 Jul 12

izzyarch says...

Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.
Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned. izzyarch

12:16pm Tue 31 Jul 12

John New says...

It was always going to happen. Turn it around and ask yourself if you would go to London in the next few days to say the Science Musuem or leave your London tourist trip until the Autumn? Our problem has been the weather was also so awful before the dratted event started the local traders have had a double whammy.
It was always going to happen. Turn it around and ask yourself if you would go to London in the next few days to say the Science Musuem or leave your London tourist trip until the Autumn? Our problem has been the weather was also so awful before the dratted event started the local traders have had a double whammy. John New

12:22pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Taxpayinglocal says...

OK, im sorry but blaming the recession is not the case here. The recession is the reason ppl SHOULD be coming to be weymouth as they cant afford to go abroad. Dont tell me i dont know what im talking about either, as im a Taxi Driver, and i see the streets all year round everyday nearly all day. 2 years ago before the roadworks was happening, we was also apparently in a recession but the summer was heaving with ppl, the hotels were packed, the beach was crammed to the rafters. I was picking up people saying they cant afford to go abroad no more so they have a holiday in the country. As for what the olympics has done to a cabbie in particular well lets put it this way, would you be busy if you were STOPPED from working. We have no ranks, well we have 1 outside the crown, only allowed to have 3 cars on it!!! there are 80 hackney vehicles in the town. Its been an absolute shambles from the get go. I did one job from the crown hotel to prince regent and it went £10.80, on our official paper work about the road closures we were told we can use Glocuester street to drive up to drop off on the seafront, but no they changed it last min to fully closed, so just to get to the Prince Regent i had to go all way to morrisons and back down again!! Its absolutely disgusting the way the locals have been treated during all this, sickening is also a word that comes to mind.
OK, im sorry but blaming the recession is not the case here. The recession is the reason ppl SHOULD be coming to be weymouth as they cant afford to go abroad. Dont tell me i dont know what im talking about either, as im a Taxi Driver, and i see the streets all year round everyday nearly all day. 2 years ago before the roadworks was happening, we was also apparently in a recession but the summer was heaving with ppl, the hotels were packed, the beach was crammed to the rafters. I was picking up people saying they cant afford to go abroad no more so they have a holiday in the country. As for what the olympics has done to a cabbie in particular well lets put it this way, would you be busy if you were STOPPED from working. We have no ranks, well we have 1 outside the crown, only allowed to have 3 cars on it!!! there are 80 hackney vehicles in the town. Its been an absolute shambles from the get go. I did one job from the crown hotel to prince regent and it went £10.80, on our official paper work about the road closures we were told we can use Glocuester street to drive up to drop off on the seafront, but no they changed it last min to fully closed, so just to get to the Prince Regent i had to go all way to morrisons and back down again!! Its absolutely disgusting the way the locals have been treated during all this, sickening is also a word that comes to mind. Taxpayinglocal

12:31pm Tue 31 Jul 12

bobby1966 says...

izzyarch wrote:
Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.
and your the perfect person then mate your to quick to judge what the hell has smoking and being overweight got to do with all this . it doesnt matter what these people look like or what they like to do they have money in their pockets which they spend to help improve weymouth via the councils facilities. i smoke and am overweight and live in weymouth ,yet i work 70 hours a week to support my wife and 2 kids and take no income or handouts from the government i also pay a hefty poll tax bill and all my taxes and help out in the community in my spare time ,so am i a drain on your wonderful little narrow minded brain.your prob unemployed and its people like me paying for your upkeep to live in this beautiful town ,either that or your a posh wannabe that still lives in a society of class where anything below you is considered evil and not worthy .
[quote][p][bold]izzyarch[/bold] wrote: Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.[/p][/quote]and your the perfect person then mate your to quick to judge what the hell has smoking and being overweight got to do with all this . it doesnt matter what these people look like or what they like to do they have money in their pockets which they spend to help improve weymouth via the councils facilities. i smoke and am overweight and live in weymouth ,yet i work 70 hours a week to support my wife and 2 kids and take no income or handouts from the government i also pay a hefty poll tax bill and all my taxes and help out in the community in my spare time ,so am i a drain on your wonderful little narrow minded brain.your prob unemployed and its people like me paying for your upkeep to live in this beautiful town ,either that or your a posh wannabe that still lives in a society of class where anything below you is considered evil and not worthy . bobby1966

12:32pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Simon 1965 says...

I can confirm that I, a regular holiday maker to Weymouth, have not been put off by the Olympics - I have just spent five days in the town with a friend, and am back next Saturday for two weeks with my family.

I wish to confirm as well that even though some of you class me as a "grockle" for daring to visit your lovely area out of choice, I an not inactive, do not drink to eccess, do not smoke, do not have tattoos and neither am I overweight. Neither are my friends who visit Weymouth on a regular basis either.

For what its worth, the town looks great, and the main shopping streets seem very busy.

Simon N.
South Wales
I can confirm that I, a regular holiday maker to Weymouth, have not been put off by the Olympics - I have just spent five days in the town with a friend, and am back next Saturday for two weeks with my family. I wish to confirm as well that even though some of you class me as a "grockle" for daring to visit your lovely area out of choice, I an not inactive, do not drink to eccess, do not smoke, do not have tattoos and neither am I overweight. Neither are my friends who visit Weymouth on a regular basis either. For what its worth, the town looks great, and the main shopping streets seem very busy. Simon N. South Wales Simon 1965

12:37pm Tue 31 Jul 12

bobby1966 says...

Simon 1965 wrote:
I can confirm that I, a regular holiday maker to Weymouth, have not been put off by the Olympics - I have just spent five days in the town with a friend, and am back next Saturday for two weeks with my family.

I wish to confirm as well that even though some of you class me as a "grockle" for daring to visit your lovely area out of choice, I an not inactive, do not drink to eccess, do not smoke, do not have tattoos and neither am I overweight. Neither are my friends who visit Weymouth on a regular basis either.

For what its worth, the town looks great, and the main shopping streets seem very busy.

Simon N.
South Wales
lol nice one mate i to am a grockle even though i have been here 7 years and always worked and input into this community. i think sometimes the proper locals (non grockles) dont seem to realise that without the holiday makers this town would be nothing ,jobs would be almost impossible to find ,there would be no shops to shop at etc etc the place would be a dump. BE NICE TO HAVE YA MATE HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR HOLIDAY AND HAVE A GREAT TIME THANKS
[quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: I can confirm that I, a regular holiday maker to Weymouth, have not been put off by the Olympics - I have just spent five days in the town with a friend, and am back next Saturday for two weeks with my family. I wish to confirm as well that even though some of you class me as a "grockle" for daring to visit your lovely area out of choice, I an not inactive, do not drink to eccess, do not smoke, do not have tattoos and neither am I overweight. Neither are my friends who visit Weymouth on a regular basis either. For what its worth, the town looks great, and the main shopping streets seem very busy. Simon N. South Wales[/p][/quote]lol nice one mate i to am a grockle even though i have been here 7 years and always worked and input into this community. i think sometimes the proper locals (non grockles) dont seem to realise that without the holiday makers this town would be nothing ,jobs would be almost impossible to find ,there would be no shops to shop at etc etc the place would be a dump. BE NICE TO HAVE YA MATE HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR HOLIDAY AND HAVE A GREAT TIME THANKS bobby1966

12:51pm Tue 31 Jul 12

maximan says...

izzyarch wrote:
Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.
Well done love...a new Olympic record in narrow mindedness
[quote][p][bold]izzyarch[/bold] wrote: Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.[/p][/quote]Well done love...a new Olympic record in narrow mindedness maximan

12:52pm Tue 31 Jul 12

tedbungy says...

This is to the rest of the world

COME ON DOWN WE HAVE GOT LOTS OF ROOM.

London will be ramed with tourists visit Weymouth & Portland see the Olympics close up and for free
This is to the rest of the world COME ON DOWN WE HAVE GOT LOTS OF ROOM. London will be ramed with tourists visit Weymouth & Portland see the Olympics close up and for free tedbungy

1:01pm Tue 31 Jul 12

rjimmer says...

izzyarch wrote:
Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.
I think your humour was lost on some people!!! Still, if the cap fits, they can wear it.
[quote][p][bold]izzyarch[/bold] wrote: Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.[/p][/quote]I think your humour was lost on some people!!! Still, if the cap fits, they can wear it. rjimmer

1:08pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Jello Biafra says...

izzyarch wrote:
Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.
They say opposites attract. I hope you meet someone who is good-looking, intelligent, and cultured.
[quote][p][bold]izzyarch[/bold] wrote: Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.[/p][/quote]They say opposites attract. I hope you meet someone who is good-looking, intelligent, and cultured. Jello Biafra

1:09pm Tue 31 Jul 12

jmc1 says...

tedbungy wrote:
This is to the rest of the world

COME ON DOWN WE HAVE GOT LOTS OF ROOM.

London will be ramed with tourists visit Weymouth & Portland see the Olympics close up and for free
Like I can do from the sofa in my living room and a lot drier and warmer as well
[quote][p][bold]tedbungy[/bold] wrote: This is to the rest of the world COME ON DOWN WE HAVE GOT LOTS OF ROOM. London will be ramed with tourists visit Weymouth & Portland see the Olympics close up and for free[/p][/quote]Like I can do from the sofa in my living room and a lot drier and warmer as well jmc1

1:14pm Tue 31 Jul 12

maximan says...

rjimmer wrote:
izzyarch wrote:
Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.
I think your humour was lost on some people!!! Still, if the cap fits, they can wear it.
Where is humour there? Well I suppose that some found Bernard Manning funny as well....unlike the post - it takes all kinds
[quote][p][bold]rjimmer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]izzyarch[/bold] wrote: Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.[/p][/quote]I think your humour was lost on some people!!! Still, if the cap fits, they can wear it.[/p][/quote]Where is humour there? Well I suppose that some found Bernard Manning funny as well....unlike the post - it takes all kinds maximan

1:22pm Tue 31 Jul 12

satisfecho says...

Taxpayinglocal wrote:
OK, im sorry but blaming the recession is not the case here. The recession is the reason ppl SHOULD be coming to be weymouth as they cant afford to go abroad. Dont tell me i dont know what im talking about either, as im a Taxi Driver, and i see the streets all year round everyday nearly all day. 2 years ago before the roadworks was happening, we was also apparently in a recession but the summer was heaving with ppl, the hotels were packed, the beach was crammed to the rafters. I was picking up people saying they cant afford to go abroad no more so they have a holiday in the country. As for what the olympics has done to a cabbie in particular well lets put it this way, would you be busy if you were STOPPED from working. We have no ranks, well we have 1 outside the crown, only allowed to have 3 cars on it!!! there are 80 hackney vehicles in the town. Its been an absolute shambles from the get go. I did one job from the crown hotel to prince regent and it went £10.80, on our official paper work about the road closures we were told we can use Glocuester street to drive up to drop off on the seafront, but no they changed it last min to fully closed, so just to get to the Prince Regent i had to go all way to morrisons and back down again!! Its absolutely disgusting the way the locals have been treated during all this, sickening is also a word that comes to mind.
The recession is hitting families more today than two years ago.

Today there is a lot less disposable income in peoples pockets, therefore you can't compare to what is was like before improvements to the town.
[quote][p][bold]Taxpayinglocal[/bold] wrote: OK, im sorry but blaming the recession is not the case here. The recession is the reason ppl SHOULD be coming to be weymouth as they cant afford to go abroad. Dont tell me i dont know what im talking about either, as im a Taxi Driver, and i see the streets all year round everyday nearly all day. 2 years ago before the roadworks was happening, we was also apparently in a recession but the summer was heaving with ppl, the hotels were packed, the beach was crammed to the rafters. I was picking up people saying they cant afford to go abroad no more so they have a holiday in the country. As for what the olympics has done to a cabbie in particular well lets put it this way, would you be busy if you were STOPPED from working. We have no ranks, well we have 1 outside the crown, only allowed to have 3 cars on it!!! there are 80 hackney vehicles in the town. Its been an absolute shambles from the get go. I did one job from the crown hotel to prince regent and it went £10.80, on our official paper work about the road closures we were told we can use Glocuester street to drive up to drop off on the seafront, but no they changed it last min to fully closed, so just to get to the Prince Regent i had to go all way to morrisons and back down again!! Its absolutely disgusting the way the locals have been treated during all this, sickening is also a word that comes to mind.[/p][/quote]The recession is hitting families more today than two years ago. Today there is a lot less disposable income in peoples pockets, therefore you can't compare to what is was like before improvements to the town. satisfecho

1:24pm Tue 31 Jul 12

ohec says...

Brilliant all those greedy businesses that thought they were going to make a fortune have come unstuck, having the Olympics in Weymouth & Portland was a mistake from the word go, the ordinary local people have been shat on from a great height and destroying the town has brought nothing but misery to everybody, ripping floral roundabouts out to replace them with a sea of tarmac and junctions that don't work.
Weymouth has always been a bucket and spade seaside town but it has been going down hill for years and now they have deterred their usual clientele by holding the Olympics and there is a good chance they won't come back, as for cost you can go to many European destinations cheaper than a holiday in Weymouth so anybody that thinks a holiday anywhere in the U.K. is cheap is deluded. Weymouth needs to return to its roots as a quaint little seaside town and get rid of the drunks and tramps and make it a real old fashioned family holiday town again.
Brilliant all those greedy businesses that thought they were going to make a fortune have come unstuck, having the Olympics in Weymouth & Portland was a mistake from the word go, the ordinary local people have been shat on from a great height and destroying the town has brought nothing but misery to everybody, ripping floral roundabouts out to replace them with a sea of tarmac and junctions that don't work. Weymouth has always been a bucket and spade seaside town but it has been going down hill for years and now they have deterred their usual clientele by holding the Olympics and there is a good chance they won't come back, as for cost you can go to many European destinations cheaper than a holiday in Weymouth so anybody that thinks a holiday anywhere in the U.K. is cheap is deluded. Weymouth needs to return to its roots as a quaint little seaside town and get rid of the drunks and tramps and make it a real old fashioned family holiday town again. ohec

1:24pm Tue 31 Jul 12

ManOnTheSilverMountain says...

Greedy traders trying to cash in on the Olympics is why everyone is staying away.

That and the abysmal local bus services put on by First. (waited 2 hrs at the statue and not a single sign of either a Preston, Dorchester or Littlemoor bus, all of which should have been every 10 minutes).
Greedy traders trying to cash in on the Olympics is why everyone is staying away. That and the abysmal local bus services put on by First. (waited 2 hrs at the statue and not a single sign of either a Preston, Dorchester or Littlemoor bus, all of which should have been every 10 minutes). ManOnTheSilverMountain

1:33pm Tue 31 Jul 12

rjimmer says...

ManOnTheSilverMounta
in
wrote:
Greedy traders trying to cash in on the Olympics is why everyone is staying away.

That and the abysmal local bus services put on by First. (waited 2 hrs at the statue and not a single sign of either a Preston, Dorchester or Littlemoor bus, all of which should have been every 10 minutes).
I think it's the people who are reportedly charging £8,000 for a 2-week trade pitch near the Pavilion who are the greedy ones.
[quote][p][bold]ManOnTheSilverMounta in[/bold] wrote: Greedy traders trying to cash in on the Olympics is why everyone is staying away. That and the abysmal local bus services put on by First. (waited 2 hrs at the statue and not a single sign of either a Preston, Dorchester or Littlemoor bus, all of which should have been every 10 minutes).[/p][/quote]I think it's the people who are reportedly charging £8,000 for a 2-week trade pitch near the Pavilion who are the greedy ones. rjimmer

1:33pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Duckorange says...

I dunno, let's blame people googling "Olympics in Weymouth" and finding nothing but moaning in the local paper's newspapers comments.
I dunno, let's blame people googling "Olympics in Weymouth" and finding nothing but moaning in the local paper's newspapers comments. Duckorange

1:40pm Tue 31 Jul 12

tedbungy says...

jmc1 wrote:
tedbungy wrote: This is to the rest of the world COME ON DOWN WE HAVE GOT LOTS OF ROOM. London will be ramed with tourists visit Weymouth & Portland see the Olympics close up and for free
Like I can do from the sofa in my living room and a lot drier and warmer as well
I take your point but the sofa will be there next year the olympics wont
[quote][p][bold]jmc1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tedbungy[/bold] wrote: This is to the rest of the world COME ON DOWN WE HAVE GOT LOTS OF ROOM. London will be ramed with tourists visit Weymouth & Portland see the Olympics close up and for free[/p][/quote]Like I can do from the sofa in my living room and a lot drier and warmer as well[/p][/quote]I take your point but the sofa will be there next year the olympics wont tedbungy

1:41pm Tue 31 Jul 12

poppy33 says...

I am a local and have to say that I always said I would be avoiding the town centre like the plague during the olympic games as I was under the impression traffic would be chaos with nowhere to park, buses are already a nightmare if you have two young children as its almost an imposibility to get on a bus so the bus was out so I just thought we would stay away. Saturday I drove and parked without a problem on the outskirts headed to see the battle of the winds, the town was extremly quiet and it was a fab evening. I am now sold on the whole olympic events in Weymouth its just a shame that the last few years has been hell for most of us and the whole olympic event has been overhyped making most local people stay away. I told quite a few people how fab the battle of the winds was and they have all said they really wanted to go but didn't because they didn't want to pay extortianate parking . Buses have been unreliable in the area with a family member waiting over an hour on a bus service that is supposed to go every minutes. Roll on Friday night for the Bayside events.
I am a local and have to say that I always said I would be avoiding the town centre like the plague during the olympic games as I was under the impression traffic would be chaos with nowhere to park, buses are already a nightmare if you have two young children as its almost an imposibility to get on a bus so the bus was out so I just thought we would stay away. Saturday I drove and parked without a problem on the outskirts headed to see the battle of the winds, the town was extremly quiet and it was a fab evening. I am now sold on the whole olympic events in Weymouth its just a shame that the last few years has been hell for most of us and the whole olympic event has been overhyped making most local people stay away. I told quite a few people how fab the battle of the winds was and they have all said they really wanted to go but didn't because they didn't want to pay extortianate parking . Buses have been unreliable in the area with a family member waiting over an hour on a bus service that is supposed to go every minutes. Roll on Friday night for the Bayside events. poppy33

1:49pm Tue 31 Jul 12

satisfecho says...

Duckorange wrote:
I dunno, let's blame people googling "Olympics in Weymouth" and finding nothing but moaning in the local paper's newspapers comments.
Those type of online comments do more harm than good.
[quote][p][bold]Duckorange[/bold] wrote: I dunno, let's blame people googling "Olympics in Weymouth" and finding nothing but moaning in the local paper's newspapers comments.[/p][/quote]Those type of online comments do more harm than good. satisfecho

1:52pm Tue 31 Jul 12

thetiger says...

There's certainly a lot less traffic on the roads compared to last summer, I've yet to see any cars in the monkeys jump 'park and ride' car park. I dont have any dependancy on the tourist trade or the olympics so can only benefit from less congested roads.

Shame about businesses in Weymouth, all those promises of '30,000 visitors' a day from the olympic organisers and the council. Doesn't take a genius to work out that '30,000 visitors a day' is just not a realistic figure (as now proven)
There's certainly a lot less traffic on the roads compared to last summer, I've yet to see any cars in the monkeys jump 'park and ride' car park. I dont have any dependancy on the tourist trade or the olympics so can only benefit from less congested roads. Shame about businesses in Weymouth, all those promises of '30,000 visitors' a day from the olympic organisers and the council. Doesn't take a genius to work out that '30,000 visitors a day' is just not a realistic figure (as now proven) thetiger

2:16pm Tue 31 Jul 12

PoetPeter says...

This was always going to be the case and was inevitable. Weymouth has been destroyed by the vainglorious ambition of local politicians.

Businesses have been going bust throughout the absurd, disastrous road "improvements" and this will be the nail in the coffin for most of those who have held on.

The chief executive of WPBC, all the councillors and all those at DCC responsible should resign forthwith.
This was always going to be the case and was inevitable. Weymouth has been destroyed by the vainglorious ambition of local politicians. Businesses have been going bust throughout the absurd, disastrous road "improvements" and this will be the nail in the coffin for most of those who have held on. The chief executive of WPBC, all the councillors and all those at DCC responsible should resign forthwith. PoetPeter

2:22pm Tue 31 Jul 12

The Good Ship Hardy says...

For quite a while the railway companies have been advising potential customers that due to "congestion" they ought to consider park and rides schemes. Well I caught the 1024 down from Southampton yesterday, returning on the 5.20. Neither were that busy, in fact I'd say no more so than a normal summer holiday weekday. Amused to see 2 Virgin Cross Country and 1 GWR unit sitting outside ready to take the hordes of passengers home early evening. I don't think so. I thought the 2 screens on the beach were brilliant whilst I would never pay for to be "seated" on Nothe Fort. Weymouth was so quiet for the end of July, I do feel for the traders in what should be their busiest time of the year. Sorry Council, you have got it wrong in so many ways, hang your heads in shame !!!
For quite a while the railway companies have been advising potential customers that due to "congestion" they ought to consider park and rides schemes. Well I caught the 1024 down from Southampton yesterday, returning on the 5.20. Neither were that busy, in fact I'd say no more so than a normal summer holiday weekday. Amused to see 2 Virgin Cross Country and 1 GWR unit sitting outside ready to take the hordes of passengers home early evening. I don't think so. I thought the 2 screens on the beach were brilliant whilst I would never pay for to be "seated" on Nothe Fort. Weymouth was so quiet for the end of July, I do feel for the traders in what should be their busiest time of the year. Sorry Council, you have got it wrong in so many ways, hang your heads in shame !!! The Good Ship Hardy

2:24pm Tue 31 Jul 12

satisfecho says...

PoetPeter wrote:
This was always going to be the case and was inevitable. Weymouth has been destroyed by the vainglorious ambition of local politicians.

Businesses have been going bust throughout the absurd, disastrous road "improvements" and this will be the nail in the coffin for most of those who have held on.

The chief executive of WPBC, all the councillors and all those at DCC responsible should resign forthwith.
And what happens if they did all resign?

Are you going to put yourself in the firing line?
[quote][p][bold]PoetPeter[/bold] wrote: This was always going to be the case and was inevitable. Weymouth has been destroyed by the vainglorious ambition of local politicians. Businesses have been going bust throughout the absurd, disastrous road "improvements" and this will be the nail in the coffin for most of those who have held on. The chief executive of WPBC, all the councillors and all those at DCC responsible should resign forthwith.[/p][/quote]And what happens if they did all resign? Are you going to put yourself in the firing line? satisfecho

2:29pm Tue 31 Jul 12

chesilboy says...

Taxpayinglocal wrote:
OK, im sorry but blaming the recession is not the case here. The recession is the reason ppl SHOULD be coming to be weymouth as they cant afford to go abroad. Dont tell me i dont know what im talking about either, as im a Taxi Driver, and i see the streets all year round everyday nearly all day. 2 years ago before the roadworks was happening, we was also apparently in a recession but the summer was heaving with ppl, the hotels were packed, the beach was crammed to the rafters. I was picking up people saying they cant afford to go abroad no more so they have a holiday in the country. As for what the olympics has done to a cabbie in particular well lets put it this way, would you be busy if you were STOPPED from working. We have no ranks, well we have 1 outside the crown, only allowed to have 3 cars on it!!! there are 80 hackney vehicles in the town. Its been an absolute shambles from the get go. I did one job from the crown hotel to prince regent and it went £10.80, on our official paper work about the road closures we were told we can use Glocuester street to drive up to drop off on the seafront, but no they changed it last min to fully closed, so just to get to the Prince Regent i had to go all way to morrisons and back down again!! Its absolutely disgusting the way the locals have been treated during all this, sickening is also a word that comes to mind.
"Dont tell me i dont know what im talking about either, as im a Taxi Driver"

With due respect and to be taken with good humour: that is the funniest sentence I have read on this site for quite some time! :-)
[quote][p][bold]Taxpayinglocal[/bold] wrote: OK, im sorry but blaming the recession is not the case here. The recession is the reason ppl SHOULD be coming to be weymouth as they cant afford to go abroad. Dont tell me i dont know what im talking about either, as im a Taxi Driver, and i see the streets all year round everyday nearly all day. 2 years ago before the roadworks was happening, we was also apparently in a recession but the summer was heaving with ppl, the hotels were packed, the beach was crammed to the rafters. I was picking up people saying they cant afford to go abroad no more so they have a holiday in the country. As for what the olympics has done to a cabbie in particular well lets put it this way, would you be busy if you were STOPPED from working. We have no ranks, well we have 1 outside the crown, only allowed to have 3 cars on it!!! there are 80 hackney vehicles in the town. Its been an absolute shambles from the get go. I did one job from the crown hotel to prince regent and it went £10.80, on our official paper work about the road closures we were told we can use Glocuester street to drive up to drop off on the seafront, but no they changed it last min to fully closed, so just to get to the Prince Regent i had to go all way to morrisons and back down again!! Its absolutely disgusting the way the locals have been treated during all this, sickening is also a word that comes to mind.[/p][/quote]"Dont tell me i dont know what im talking about either, as im a Taxi Driver" With due respect and to be taken with good humour: that is the funniest sentence I have read on this site for quite some time! :-) chesilboy

3:01pm Tue 31 Jul 12

PoetPeter says...

satisfecho wrote:
PoetPeter wrote:
This was always going to be the case and was inevitable. Weymouth has been destroyed by the vainglorious ambition of local politicians.

Businesses have been going bust throughout the absurd, disastrous road "improvements" and this will be the nail in the coffin for most of those who have held on.

The chief executive of WPBC, all the councillors and all those at DCC responsible should resign forthwith.
And what happens if they did all resign?

Are you going to put yourself in the firing line?
A primary school class could do a better and more responsible job of running WPBC and I'm not overstating nor being anything less than 100% literal.

The whole episode has been a shambles from beginning to end as I and others have been warning for many, many months on this website.

Local politicians and civil servants have been nothing less than criminally negligent in the way they have frittered away our money and destroyed our town.
[quote][p][bold]satisfecho[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PoetPeter[/bold] wrote: This was always going to be the case and was inevitable. Weymouth has been destroyed by the vainglorious ambition of local politicians. Businesses have been going bust throughout the absurd, disastrous road "improvements" and this will be the nail in the coffin for most of those who have held on. The chief executive of WPBC, all the councillors and all those at DCC responsible should resign forthwith.[/p][/quote]And what happens if they did all resign? Are you going to put yourself in the firing line?[/p][/quote]A primary school class could do a better and more responsible job of running WPBC and I'm not overstating nor being anything less than 100% literal. The whole episode has been a shambles from beginning to end as I and others have been warning for many, many months on this website. Local politicians and civil servants have been nothing less than criminally negligent in the way they have frittered away our money and destroyed our town. PoetPeter

3:10pm Tue 31 Jul 12

portlandboy says...

How long will it be before the loons within the DCC & WPBC come forth to claim that their road system was a complete success, whilst "forgetting" to mention that the numbers of vehicles that travelled through it were 1,000's less than they predicted when forcing the changes upon us all?
And on that subject, can anyone please explain why the junction by the Jubilee Clock on the seafront was changed (and King's Street's pavements) when the road was to be closed for the duration of the sailing?
How long will it be before the loons within the DCC & WPBC come forth to claim that their road system was a complete success, whilst "forgetting" to mention that the numbers of vehicles that travelled through it were 1,000's less than they predicted when forcing the changes upon us all? And on that subject, can anyone please explain why the junction by the Jubilee Clock on the seafront was changed (and King's Street's pavements) when the road was to be closed for the duration of the sailing? portlandboy

3:42pm Tue 31 Jul 12

portlandboy says...

Merlin,
That's what has annoyed me throughout this whole situation, when you bother to call or email ANY of the council staff involved with the Olympics they are more than happy to lie about things if it suits them to do so, rather than be the honest people they are supposed to be.
Merlin, That's what has annoyed me throughout this whole situation, when you bother to call or email ANY of the council staff involved with the Olympics they are more than happy to lie about things if it suits them to do so, rather than be the honest people they are supposed to be. portlandboy

4:02pm Tue 31 Jul 12

oldbrock says...

ohec wrote:
Brilliant all those greedy businesses that thought they were going to make a fortune have come unstuck, having the Olympics in Weymouth & Portland was a mistake from the word go, the ordinary local people have been shat on from a great height and destroying the town has brought nothing but misery to everybody, ripping floral roundabouts out to replace them with a sea of tarmac and junctions that don't work.
Weymouth has always been a bucket and spade seaside town but it has been going down hill for years and now they have deterred their usual clientele by holding the Olympics and there is a good chance they won't come back, as for cost you can go to many European destinations cheaper than a holiday in Weymouth so anybody that thinks a holiday anywhere in the U.K. is cheap is deluded. Weymouth needs to return to its roots as a quaint little seaside town and get rid of the drunks and tramps and make it a real old fashioned family holiday town again.
brilliant, to the point, and correct, especially the first and last lines, will not dwell on the always been bucket and spade town as there are too many on here who want the changes, there are few who would agree but for what its worth, here's one who does
[quote][p][bold]ohec[/bold] wrote: Brilliant all those greedy businesses that thought they were going to make a fortune have come unstuck, having the Olympics in Weymouth & Portland was a mistake from the word go, the ordinary local people have been shat on from a great height and destroying the town has brought nothing but misery to everybody, ripping floral roundabouts out to replace them with a sea of tarmac and junctions that don't work. Weymouth has always been a bucket and spade seaside town but it has been going down hill for years and now they have deterred their usual clientele by holding the Olympics and there is a good chance they won't come back, as for cost you can go to many European destinations cheaper than a holiday in Weymouth so anybody that thinks a holiday anywhere in the U.K. is cheap is deluded. Weymouth needs to return to its roots as a quaint little seaside town and get rid of the drunks and tramps and make it a real old fashioned family holiday town again.[/p][/quote]brilliant, to the point, and correct, especially the first and last lines, will not dwell on the always been bucket and spade town as there are too many on here who want the changes, there are few who would agree but for what its worth, here's one who does oldbrock

4:15pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Share Truce says...

Moan Moan Moan
Moan Moan Moan Share Truce

4:24pm Tue 31 Jul 12

monkeydog says...

ohec wrote:
Brilliant all those greedy businesses that thought they were going to make a fortune have come unstuck, having the Olympics in Weymouth & Portland was a mistake from the word go, the ordinary local people have been shat on from a great height and destroying the town has brought nothing but misery to everybody, ripping floral roundabouts out to replace them with a sea of tarmac and junctions that don't work.
Weymouth has always been a bucket and spade seaside town but it has been going down hill for years and now they have deterred their usual clientele by holding the Olympics and there is a good chance they won't come back, as for cost you can go to many European destinations cheaper than a holiday in Weymouth so anybody that thinks a holiday anywhere in the U.K. is cheap is deluded. Weymouth needs to return to its roots as a quaint little seaside town and get rid of the drunks and tramps and make it a real old fashioned family holiday town again.
I think you will find that there is a relationship of cause and effect in the two phrases 'going down hill for years' and 'old fashioned family holiday town'.
[quote][p][bold]ohec[/bold] wrote: Brilliant all those greedy businesses that thought they were going to make a fortune have come unstuck, having the Olympics in Weymouth & Portland was a mistake from the word go, the ordinary local people have been shat on from a great height and destroying the town has brought nothing but misery to everybody, ripping floral roundabouts out to replace them with a sea of tarmac and junctions that don't work. Weymouth has always been a bucket and spade seaside town but it has been going down hill for years and now they have deterred their usual clientele by holding the Olympics and there is a good chance they won't come back, as for cost you can go to many European destinations cheaper than a holiday in Weymouth so anybody that thinks a holiday anywhere in the U.K. is cheap is deluded. Weymouth needs to return to its roots as a quaint little seaside town and get rid of the drunks and tramps and make it a real old fashioned family holiday town again.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that there is a relationship of cause and effect in the two phrases 'going down hill for years' and 'old fashioned family holiday town'. monkeydog

4:35pm Tue 31 Jul 12

RobinofLocksley says...

satisfecho wrote:
Duckorange wrote:
I dunno, let's blame people googling "Olympics in Weymouth" and finding nothing but moaning in the local paper's newspapers comments.
Those type of online comments do more harm than good.
Quite right - that Duckorange is a dreadful troll!
[quote][p][bold]satisfecho[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Duckorange[/bold] wrote: I dunno, let's blame people googling "Olympics in Weymouth" and finding nothing but moaning in the local paper's newspapers comments.[/p][/quote]Those type of online comments do more harm than good.[/p][/quote]Quite right - that Duckorange is a dreadful troll! RobinofLocksley

4:41pm Tue 31 Jul 12

dogboy1 says...

I think amongst all the moaning there are a number of valid points being made here. I was never convinced that a sailing event alone was going to be a big pull and certainly the works leading up to it has been extremely frustrating. On the flip side and I never thought I would say this but having been dragged into town on Friday evening, first time for a very long time, for the opening ceremony I was quite proud of the set up and that my home town was part of a once in a lifetime event. I very much doubt the Olympics will return to the UK for some generations to come. I thoroughly enjoyed myself, so much so that we returned Saturday evening to see the battle of the winds and Sunday to see the sailing. There is no doubt that visitor numbers are down significantly, and I do sympathise will local traders, but as a local I haved loved being able to enjoy Weymouth at its best without the crowds. Drove straight in on Sunday afternoon parked immediatlely by the marina and had a cracking afternoon in the sun.
I definitely get the feeling that Weymouth is improving starting with the Carnival/Air day last year. I just really hope that depsite the problems so far that events will continue to be staged in this beautiful setting for all to enjoy
I think amongst all the moaning there are a number of valid points being made here. I was never convinced that a sailing event alone was going to be a big pull and certainly the works leading up to it has been extremely frustrating. On the flip side and I never thought I would say this but having been dragged into town on Friday evening, first time for a very long time, for the opening ceremony I was quite proud of the set up and that my home town was part of a once in a lifetime event. I very much doubt the Olympics will return to the UK for some generations to come. I thoroughly enjoyed myself, so much so that we returned Saturday evening to see the battle of the winds and Sunday to see the sailing. There is no doubt that visitor numbers are down significantly, and I do sympathise will local traders, but as a local I haved loved being able to enjoy Weymouth at its best without the crowds. Drove straight in on Sunday afternoon parked immediatlely by the marina and had a cracking afternoon in the sun. I definitely get the feeling that Weymouth is improving starting with the Carnival/Air day last year. I just really hope that depsite the problems so far that events will continue to be staged in this beautiful setting for all to enjoy dogboy1

4:46pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Black Raven says...

For months & months before the Olympics arrived the council has made life difficult for residents & businesses alike, major road works, ridiculous traffic systems (Asda - not to mention their ridiculous car park too), high parking charges, cutting of 1 hour free parking places, extortionate rents & cost cutting inappropriately (Weymouth Harbour - (who the heck didn't monitor that breadwinner !!) Condor has gone & I'm pretty positive they will avoid coming back especially due to the high complaints of problems getting cars off in the peak of summer because of the system of narrowing along the Esplanade. I loved Weymouth, pretty little seaside town, ruined by it's council, I like many have been driven to shop elsewhere & won't be coming back until the road,parking systems change. Shops were pulling out long before the Olympics, high rents, on-line shopping & the recession not helping but also accessibility. Don't blame the Olympics WPBC & DCC were already on a suicidal path. Support Bring back the Old Weymouth yes! Bring back free parking, make access easier, drops rents, that way the people will come back, it will take time though & for Weymouth the sand is running low.... Most people I know are in the same mind, it's only worth coming to Weymouth to get your hair done! And no I'm not moaning I'm being realistic....
For months & months before the Olympics arrived the council has made life difficult for residents & businesses alike, major road works, ridiculous traffic systems (Asda - not to mention their ridiculous car park too), high parking charges, cutting of 1 hour free parking places, extortionate rents & cost cutting inappropriately (Weymouth Harbour - (who the heck didn't monitor that breadwinner !!) Condor has gone & I'm pretty positive they will avoid coming back especially due to the high complaints of problems getting cars off in the peak of summer because of the system of narrowing along the Esplanade. I loved Weymouth, pretty little seaside town, ruined by it's council, I like many have been driven to shop elsewhere & won't be coming back until the road,parking systems change. Shops were pulling out long before the Olympics, high rents, on-line shopping & the recession not helping but also accessibility. Don't blame the Olympics WPBC & DCC were already on a suicidal path. Support Bring back the Old Weymouth yes! Bring back free parking, make access easier, drops rents, that way the people will come back, it will take time though & for Weymouth the sand is running low.... Most people I know are in the same mind, it's only worth coming to Weymouth to get your hair done! And no I'm not moaning I'm being realistic.... Black Raven

4:50pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Black Raven says...

"Weymouth needs to return to its roots as a quaint little seaside town and get rid of the drunks and tramps and make it a real old fashioned family holiday town again".
Hear Hear !!
"Weymouth needs to return to its roots as a quaint little seaside town and get rid of the drunks and tramps and make it a real old fashioned family holiday town again". Hear Hear !! Black Raven

5:03pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Black Raven says...

"Weymouth needs to return to its roots as a quaint little seaside town and get rid of the drunks and tramps and make it a real old fashioned family holiday town again".
Hear Hear !!
"Weymouth needs to return to its roots as a quaint little seaside town and get rid of the drunks and tramps and make it a real old fashioned family holiday town again". Hear Hear !! Black Raven

5:31pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Amicus says...

shumm mishtake, shurly?
30,000 would be the total number for the event duration, including competitors, officials, hangers on and coppers and ambulance staff. Oh, and the liggers. Not far off methinks.
shumm mishtake, shurly? 30,000 would be the total number for the event duration, including competitors, officials, hangers on and coppers and ambulance staff. Oh, and the liggers. Not far off methinks. Amicus

5:49pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Iona says...

Even though road closures force loads of local people to go via the Olympic route between Chafeys and Manor roundabout to cross town. The traffic as not been bad. Clearly we are getting far fewer visitors than expected.
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Will we see an increase in visitors as local medal events intensify?
Will the road closures be needed for the para olympics?
Will the Nothe Tavern or others go bust?
Will the council, LOCOG and Highways Agency continue to get it wrong?
It is really exciting. Someone should write a soap opera!
Even though road closures force loads of local people to go via the Olympic route between Chafeys and Manor roundabout to cross town. The traffic as not been bad. Clearly we are getting far fewer visitors than expected. . Will we see an increase in visitors as local medal events intensify? Will the road closures be needed for the para olympics? Will the Nothe Tavern or others go bust? Will the council, LOCOG and Highways Agency continue to get it wrong? It is really exciting. Someone should write a soap opera! Iona

6:07pm Tue 31 Jul 12

snowleopard says...

Basil Fawlty and Mr Bean to take over
from DCC and W&PBC.
Couldn't get it much worse
Not forgetting Frank Spencer to oversee rest of Olympics in this area.
Park & Ride under control of Inspector Blake from 'On The Buses'.
Basil Fawlty and Mr Bean to take over from DCC and W&PBC. Couldn't get it much worse Not forgetting Frank Spencer to oversee rest of Olympics in this area. Park & Ride under control of Inspector Blake from 'On The Buses'. snowleopard

6:08pm Tue 31 Jul 12

PEJ says...

I have been a supporter of the Olympics from the onset until our oddjob councils decided to uproot Weymouth with their millions of pounds traffic light system. Parking is now a nightmare with major car parks closed and if I wish to go to a park and ride be charged an obscene amount. Plus who decided to charge £10 per person for the Pavilion, my grandchildren would have liked to go but at £40 for us all plus £10 park and ride no way. Obviously the thousands of tourists expected have found out the charges and stayed away in their droves. One tourist booked for a week but stayed only 2 days refusing to pay the £70 park and ride charges for a week. I was considering booking tickets for the Nothe only to be told I have to sit on the grass and not take food or drink. I am now firmly planted in comfort on my sofa watching the Olympics from my house and enjoying the grandchildren with a BBQ. I estimate I have saved in excess of £100. It is only the 3rd day W&PBC change the prices now and we may support the Olympics with our money.
I have been a supporter of the Olympics from the onset until our oddjob councils decided to uproot Weymouth with their millions of pounds traffic light system. Parking is now a nightmare with major car parks closed and if I wish to go to a park and ride be charged an obscene amount. Plus who decided to charge £10 per person for the Pavilion, my grandchildren would have liked to go but at £40 for us all plus £10 park and ride no way. Obviously the thousands of tourists expected have found out the charges and stayed away in their droves. One tourist booked for a week but stayed only 2 days refusing to pay the £70 park and ride charges for a week. I was considering booking tickets for the Nothe only to be told I have to sit on the grass and not take food or drink. I am now firmly planted in comfort on my sofa watching the Olympics from my house and enjoying the grandchildren with a BBQ. I estimate I have saved in excess of £100. It is only the 3rd day W&PBC change the prices now and we may support the Olympics with our money. PEJ

7:24pm Tue 31 Jul 12

ianplambert says...

"LOCAL Olympic organisers refused to be drawn on why their estimates of the number of visitors were so wide of the mark.


And they wouldn’t comment on the concerns raised by traders that their trade was down by around 50 per cent. They issued a statement claiming that more than 11,000 people watched the opening ceremony on Weymouth beach and Weymouth and Portland have received an unprecedented level of global media coverage."

In the same news article, it stated over 2,000 of those 11,000 people were local people. In truth there were less than 9,000 visitors.
"LOCAL Olympic organisers refused to be drawn on why their estimates of the number of visitors were so wide of the mark. And they wouldn’t comment on the concerns raised by traders that their trade was down by around 50 per cent. They issued a statement claiming that more than 11,000 people watched the opening ceremony on Weymouth beach and Weymouth and Portland have received an unprecedented level of global media coverage." In the same news article, it stated over 2,000 of those 11,000 people were local people. In truth there were less than 9,000 visitors. ianplambert

7:30pm Tue 31 Jul 12

ianplambert says...

IApparantly the park and ride is £12.50 with £10 going to the Olympic lot and £2.50 going to our Council. Most of the buses I've seen are empty and those with people in were just a handful. The cost of all these buses, personnel and security that are gaurding the park and ride routes must be staggering, based on what I've seen it would have been cheaper to give a free Taxi voucher to each park and ride customer. The diesel alone must go into the thousands for all those buses driving back and forth empty!
IApparantly the park and ride is £12.50 with £10 going to the Olympic lot and £2.50 going to our Council. Most of the buses I've seen are empty and those with people in were just a handful. The cost of all these buses, personnel and security that are gaurding the park and ride routes must be staggering, based on what I've seen it would have been cheaper to give a free Taxi voucher to each park and ride customer. The diesel alone must go into the thousands for all those buses driving back and forth empty! ianplambert

7:39pm Tue 31 Jul 12

bollywood says...

The Olympic sailing is excellent, everyone knows that the Portland Sailing Academy is capable of organising and running international events. The problem has been the intervention of the DCC and W&P Council who have been predicatably greedy and had no consideration for the holidaymaker. The Bayside festival grossly overpriced for what it has to offer and the live site should have been at Lodmoor. Weymouth is a seaside town. The beach is its best asset which has been ignored by the bullies. The buses are running to their own timetables and the car parks overpriced. Come on DCC and W&P admit you have got it very wrong and do something about it before it is too late!
The Olympic sailing is excellent, everyone knows that the Portland Sailing Academy is capable of organising and running international events. The problem has been the intervention of the DCC and W&P Council who have been predicatably greedy and had no consideration for the holidaymaker. The Bayside festival grossly overpriced for what it has to offer and the live site should have been at Lodmoor. Weymouth is a seaside town. The beach is its best asset which has been ignored by the bullies. The buses are running to their own timetables and the car parks overpriced. Come on DCC and W&P admit you have got it very wrong and do something about it before it is too late! bollywood

7:52pm Tue 31 Jul 12

iampuzzled says...

bollywood
I am afraid that the Olympic sailors will be accompanied around the course by flying porcine objects before DCC and W&P admit they have got it very wrong, because they are the 'experts' and we know 'nuffin' and are good for 'nuffin' except to be providers of their salaries and perks.
bollywood I am afraid that the Olympic sailors will be accompanied around the course by flying porcine objects before DCC and W&P admit they have got it very wrong, because they are the 'experts' and we know 'nuffin' and are good for 'nuffin' except to be providers of their salaries and perks. iampuzzled

8:26pm Tue 31 Jul 12

bollywood says...

Actually the flock of pink pigs got out when the council officials were busy burying their heads in the sand, sitting on the sea front sipping coffee and staring at the near empty beach through their rose tinted specs pretending everything in the garden is Rosy. Just waiting for the 'it will be like Barcelona comment to be wheeled out' what a joke.
Actually the flock of pink pigs got out when the council officials were busy burying their heads in the sand, sitting on the sea front sipping coffee and staring at the near empty beach through their rose tinted specs pretending everything in the garden is Rosy. Just waiting for the 'it will be like Barcelona comment to be wheeled out' what a joke. bollywood

8:31pm Tue 31 Jul 12

SILVERMAN says...

For some of us it was obvious this would be a non event. Why would anyone travel all the way to Weymouth to watch little white triangles, so far away , you can hardly see them?
HOWEVER, IT IS NOT TOO LATE FOR THE COUNCIL TO RAISE THIER HAND AND SAY, YES WE GOT IT WRONG. THEY SHOULD IMMEDIATELY OPEN ALL THE TOWN CENTRE CAR PARKS SO THAT LOCAL PEOPLE CAN GO ABOUT THIER BUSINESS IN THIER TOWN.
For some of us it was obvious this would be a non event. Why would anyone travel all the way to Weymouth to watch little white triangles, so far away , you can hardly see them? HOWEVER, IT IS NOT TOO LATE FOR THE COUNCIL TO RAISE THIER HAND AND SAY, YES WE GOT IT WRONG. THEY SHOULD IMMEDIATELY OPEN ALL THE TOWN CENTRE CAR PARKS SO THAT LOCAL PEOPLE CAN GO ABOUT THIER BUSINESS IN THIER TOWN. SILVERMAN

8:41pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Taxpayinglocal says...

Share Truce wrote:
Moan Moan Moan
Well fair enough we were all moaning on the build up, but we go promises it will all come back come olympics, 30000 ppl a day etcetc, but look what happened, now im sorry to say but we need to MOAN now, its the ones who sit back and do nothing that allow our town to be overun like it has by overpaid vips, big corporate businesses etcetc. Someone needs to make a stand and some heads need calling up at the council offices. But i guess those that actually care for thier town and business who make a stand will just be labelled "moaners".
[quote][p][bold]Share Truce[/bold] wrote: Moan Moan Moan[/p][/quote]Well fair enough we were all moaning on the build up, but we go promises it will all come back come olympics, 30000 ppl a day etcetc, but look what happened, now im sorry to say but we need to MOAN now, its the ones who sit back and do nothing that allow our town to be overun like it has by overpaid vips, big corporate businesses etcetc. Someone needs to make a stand and some heads need calling up at the council offices. But i guess those that actually care for thier town and business who make a stand will just be labelled "moaners". Taxpayinglocal

8:50pm Tue 31 Jul 12

SILVERMAN says...

OH, AND BY THE WAY.... ORGANISERS DID NOT PREDICT 30000 VISITORS DAILY. tHEY ACTUALLY SAID UP TO 60000 VISITORS PER DAY......... ( today they got the 6 bit right )
OH, AND BY THE WAY.... ORGANISERS DID NOT PREDICT 30000 VISITORS DAILY. tHEY ACTUALLY SAID UP TO 60000 VISITORS PER DAY......... ( today they got the 6 bit right ) SILVERMAN

8:52pm Tue 31 Jul 12

ksmain says...

SILVERMAN wrote:
For some of us it was obvious this would be a non event. Why would anyone travel all the way to Weymouth to watch little white triangles, so far away , you can hardly see them? HOWEVER, IT IS NOT TOO LATE FOR THE COUNCIL TO RAISE THIER HAND AND SAY, YES WE GOT IT WRONG. THEY SHOULD IMMEDIATELY OPEN ALL THE TOWN CENTRE CAR PARKS SO THAT LOCAL PEOPLE CAN GO ABOUT THIER BUSINESS IN THIER TOWN.
After first reducing the Car parks/park and ride charges to the levels they were at before the Olympics came to town. To my mind this blatant profiteering has helped little - and the fact they are giving tickets away to events they were previously charging for just proves that people are little fooled by this.

Having lived here alll my life, I cannot ever remember (even given the weather) the town being so empty in the holiday season. And this for supposedly the biggest sporting event in this country for years.

If the charges remain as now or are put up in the paraolympics I will be doing my shopping in Dorchester (no harm as I work there any way) or Yeovil.
[quote][p][bold]SILVERMAN[/bold] wrote: For some of us it was obvious this would be a non event. Why would anyone travel all the way to Weymouth to watch little white triangles, so far away , you can hardly see them? HOWEVER, IT IS NOT TOO LATE FOR THE COUNCIL TO RAISE THIER HAND AND SAY, YES WE GOT IT WRONG. THEY SHOULD IMMEDIATELY OPEN ALL THE TOWN CENTRE CAR PARKS SO THAT LOCAL PEOPLE CAN GO ABOUT THIER BUSINESS IN THIER TOWN.[/p][/quote]After first reducing the Car parks/park and ride charges to the levels they were at before the Olympics came to town. To my mind this blatant profiteering has helped little - and the fact they are giving tickets away to events they were previously charging for just proves that people are little fooled by this. Having lived here alll my life, I cannot ever remember (even given the weather) the town being so empty in the holiday season. And this for supposedly the biggest sporting event in this country for years. If the charges remain as now or are put up in the paraolympics I will be doing my shopping in Dorchester (no harm as I work there any way) or Yeovil. ksmain

8:56pm Tue 31 Jul 12

martinstarr3 says...

ianplambert wrote:
IApparantly the park and ride is £12.50 with £10 going to the Olympic lot and £2.50 going to our Council. Most of the buses I've seen are empty and those with people in were just a handful. The cost of all these buses, personnel and security that are gaurding the park and ride routes must be staggering, based on what I've seen it would have been cheaper to give a free Taxi voucher to each park and ride customer. The diesel alone must go into the thousands for all those buses driving back and forth empty!
Its gone up from £3.50 to £12.50,please use the local Buses they are the same price
[quote][p][bold]ianplambert[/bold] wrote: IApparantly the park and ride is £12.50 with £10 going to the Olympic lot and £2.50 going to our Council. Most of the buses I've seen are empty and those with people in were just a handful. The cost of all these buses, personnel and security that are gaurding the park and ride routes must be staggering, based on what I've seen it would have been cheaper to give a free Taxi voucher to each park and ride customer. The diesel alone must go into the thousands for all those buses driving back and forth empty![/p][/quote]Its gone up from £3.50 to £12.50,please use the local Buses they are the same price martinstarr3

9:00pm Tue 31 Jul 12

martinstarr3 says...

Did you now that if you live in a council house over looking the Olympic Sailing you have to pay £32 extra on your rent
Did you now that if you live in a council house over looking the Olympic Sailing you have to pay £32 extra on your rent martinstarr3

9:00pm Tue 31 Jul 12

martinstarr3 says...

Did you now that if you live in a council house over looking the Olympic Sailing you have to pay £32 extra on your rent
Did you now that if you live in a council house over looking the Olympic Sailing you have to pay £32 extra on your rent martinstarr3

9:03pm Tue 31 Jul 12

martinstarr3 says...

Please come to Weymouth but use the public Buses
Please come to Weymouth but use the public Buses martinstarr3

9:17pm Tue 31 Jul 12

portland rebel says...

i have said all along that sailing is not a spectator sport, yes maybe 5,000 folks at the nothe, but where are the other 25,000 plus we were all told would be coming, funny how all the rose tinted glasses brigade have kept very quiet.
i have said all along that sailing is not a spectator sport, yes maybe 5,000 folks at the nothe, but where are the other 25,000 plus we were all told would be coming, funny how all the rose tinted glasses brigade have kept very quiet. portland rebel

9:25pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Merrittpr says...

This is what I think has gone wrong.....

The road and car parking closures have meant that people are simply not coming into town leaving the harbour area like a ghost town for this time of year. I feel for all the local shops in town and on the beach that are losing a fortune due to all the restrictions etc.

Too much of the beach has been taken over, made even worse by the hideous, restrictive, blue meshing.

The live site is closer to dead than alive. Why did they just not have live music and food available here, people would have just concentrated in one area and it would have been FREE. I'm not in the least surprised that the Bayside Festival has slashed its prices, it's just a glorified market.

Who dreamt up the 30,000 visitors, the Nothe is only ticketed for 4,600 or so. The FREE spaces around the fort and Stone Pier are not exactly heaving!!

The town was busy for the opening ceremony because the weather was great, the live site had something LIVE to see, and there were the fireworks (after which most people left).

Get the BBC to mention on prime time that Weymouth is not horrendous to get to so come on down. AND please open some of the roads and get people in again, another week of poor grading will cripple local traders who are struggling big time already......

I'm off to price up LED fairy lights....
This is what I think has gone wrong..... The road and car parking closures have meant that people are simply not coming into town leaving the harbour area like a ghost town for this time of year. I feel for all the local shops in town and on the beach that are losing a fortune due to all the restrictions etc. Too much of the beach has been taken over, made even worse by the hideous, restrictive, blue meshing. The live site is closer to dead than alive. Why did they just not have live music and food available here, people would have just concentrated in one area and it would have been FREE. I'm not in the least surprised that the Bayside Festival has slashed its prices, it's just a glorified market. Who dreamt up the 30,000 visitors, the Nothe is only ticketed for 4,600 or so. The FREE spaces around the fort and Stone Pier are not exactly heaving!! The town was busy for the opening ceremony because the weather was great, the live site had something LIVE to see, and there were the fireworks (after which most people left). Get the BBC to mention on prime time that Weymouth is not horrendous to get to so come on down. AND please open some of the roads and get people in again, another week of poor grading will cripple local traders who are struggling big time already...... I'm off to price up LED fairy lights.... Merrittpr

9:25pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Spherical Objects says...

When it was announced that the UK had been awarded the Olympics, and that Weymouth and Portland would host the sailing events, common sense was replaced by pound signs.

At the time, more grounded people were drawing comparisons with Athens, where traditional tourists were deterred by the spectre of hordes coming to see the Olympics, and the hordes - if they ever existed, forecast numbers apparently being plucked from thin air - deterred by price increases.

Looking at London's empty shopping streets, and Weymouth and Portland's reduced summer visitors, it's plain to see that the lessons of history were ignored....

In this area, perhaps there was a degree of wilful ignorance, given that the Olympics were used as an 'unofficial' reason for the Relief Road and it's accompanying sculptures.

On the plus side, the town has been smartened up, and the traffic-restricted areas of town are a joy.

Both should become part of the Olympic legacy, and perhaps a basis for making Weymouth a more desirable / upmarket holiday resort.
When it was announced that the UK had been awarded the Olympics, and that Weymouth and Portland would host the sailing events, common sense was replaced by pound signs. At the time, more grounded people were drawing comparisons with Athens, where traditional tourists were deterred by the spectre of hordes coming to see the Olympics, and the hordes - if they ever existed, forecast numbers apparently being plucked from thin air - deterred by price increases. Looking at London's empty shopping streets, and Weymouth and Portland's reduced summer visitors, it's plain to see that the lessons of history were ignored.... In this area, perhaps there was a degree of wilful ignorance, given that the Olympics were used as an 'unofficial' reason for the Relief Road and it's accompanying sculptures. On the plus side, the town has been smartened up, and the traffic-restricted areas of town are a joy. Both should become part of the Olympic legacy, and perhaps a basis for making Weymouth a more desirable / upmarket holiday resort. Spherical Objects

9:26pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Presstostop says...

Here's and interesting fact. The drivers that drive the new and empty double deckers are earning £140 a day and staying at hotels in Poole and Bournemouth. Local Weymouth and Portland hotels are not good enough it seems.
Here's and interesting fact. The drivers that drive the new and empty double deckers are earning £140 a day and staying at hotels in Poole and Bournemouth. Local Weymouth and Portland hotels are not good enough it seems. Presstostop

9:36pm Tue 31 Jul 12

whatever66 says...

How funny everyones greed has hit them hard serves them all right, lets hope this doesnt scar weymouth forever........
How funny everyones greed has hit them hard serves them all right, lets hope this doesnt scar weymouth forever........ whatever66

9:46pm Tue 31 Jul 12

well oill beef hooked says...

We have been coming down to weymouth for 30 years.There are 15 of us who each year come down on holiday and we also come down for days out.I have been down weymouth a couple of times for the day but as for the holiday that was def a no go.We normally go in the may so not when the games were on but judging by some of the prices you would have thought they were.The price of the holiday doubled added to that all the road works it just wasnt worth it.I hope the prices will go down after the games.Its not the games what are putting people off its the greed.
We have been coming down to weymouth for 30 years.There are 15 of us who each year come down on holiday and we also come down for days out.I have been down weymouth a couple of times for the day but as for the holiday that was def a no go.We normally go in the may so not when the games were on but judging by some of the prices you would have thought they were.The price of the holiday doubled added to that all the road works it just wasnt worth it.I hope the prices will go down after the games.Its not the games what are putting people off its the greed. well oill beef hooked

9:47pm Tue 31 Jul 12

bollywood says...

The new buses are running to time with no passengers on them. First buses are not running to time and in some cases not turning up at all, and have very little in the way of customers so what is the excuse?
The new buses are running to time with no passengers on them. First buses are not running to time and in some cases not turning up at all, and have very little in the way of customers so what is the excuse? bollywood

9:47pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Yellowcave says...

I do not think the people of Weymouth are against the Olympics, I think they are distraught with the actions that have been imposed on our town in the name of the Olympics.

First off there was the utility pipe replacements - fair enough lots of grief but we all benefit in the long term, but the rush was on as they had to finished by the Olympics.
Secondly there was the ridiculous Weymouth Transport Fiasco, which involved replacing functioning roundabouts with traffic lights when the main hold ups on the route were actually caused by the existing traffic lights in Kings St. This SCOOT idea was first mooted by DCC in the 90s and rejected until DCC came up with a Public Transport Improvement package agreed by the then Labour Government, which DCC insisted they could only deliver if the junctions were controllable, ie SCOOT in by the back door. Even then it was only when the ODA? demanded a high speed link between the Olympic Sites that the controllable traffic light option was highlighted and used to get a bit of Olympic funding that the scheme became financially viable. It was put in as an Olympic requirement but in actual fact had very little to do with the Olympics. The WTF did untold damage to the well being of the town in the name of the Olympics, but as we can see it has not done anything beneficial for the Olympic traffic.
Now we have the ridiculous road closures which have split the town in half. There is still much in-fighting going on with one lot saying the road is open the other lot keeping it closed with different "lots" involved at different locations.
Over the years we have run music events on the beach and harbourside where local musicians have given their performances freely. One thing of note is that the people of Weymouth do not turn up to spectate if the cost is too high, so who thought that they would fill up at £10 per head to see copycat acts obviously did not ask around locally first.

How did the organisers not notice the complete lack of congestion during any of the Sail for Gold events that had 3 times the participants of the actual Olympics?
We have the blind (DCC/WPBC) leading the blind (ODA) with neither sure as to who is actually leading or where they were going.
My money is on the fact that 4000 tickets were available daily for this area for the 15 days of the competition giving rise to 60000 possible extra spectators, and that this 60000 figure was assumed to be a daily figure and when it was discovered it was not, noone would own up and so have perpetuated the myth.
As far as I am aware we have a fairly hard time filling Weymouth with the high parking charges on a normal summer, the beaches are nowhere near as packed as they were when parking was freely available, so what planet do these strangers come from where increasing the cost astronomically leads to more take up?

the sooner someone takes a stand and admits that it is crippling the town and opens up the link between the esplanade and commercial road the sooner we can get back to normality.

I still think this site needs a preview button!
I do not think the people of Weymouth are against the Olympics, I think they are distraught with the actions that have been imposed on our town in the name of the Olympics. First off there was the utility pipe replacements - fair enough lots of grief but we all benefit in the long term, but the rush was on as they had to finished by the Olympics. Secondly there was the ridiculous Weymouth Transport Fiasco, which involved replacing functioning roundabouts with traffic lights when the main hold ups on the route were actually caused by the existing traffic lights in Kings St. This SCOOT idea was first mooted by DCC in the 90s and rejected until DCC came up with a Public Transport Improvement package agreed by the then Labour Government, which DCC insisted they could only deliver if the junctions were controllable, ie SCOOT in by the back door. Even then it was only when the ODA? demanded a high speed link between the Olympic Sites that the controllable traffic light option was highlighted and used to get a bit of Olympic funding that the scheme became financially viable. It was put in as an Olympic requirement but in actual fact had very little to do with the Olympics. The WTF did untold damage to the well being of the town in the name of the Olympics, but as we can see it has not done anything beneficial for the Olympic traffic. Now we have the ridiculous road closures which have split the town in half. There is still much in-fighting going on with one lot saying the road is open the other lot keeping it closed with different "lots" involved at different locations. Over the years we have run music events on the beach and harbourside where local musicians have given their performances freely. One thing of note is that the people of Weymouth do not turn up to spectate if the cost is too high, so who thought that they would fill up at £10 per head to see copycat acts obviously did not ask around locally first. How did the organisers not notice the complete lack of congestion during any of the Sail for Gold events that had 3 times the participants of the actual Olympics? We have the blind (DCC/WPBC) leading the blind (ODA) with neither sure as to who is actually leading or where they were going. My money is on the fact that 4000 tickets were available daily for this area for the 15 days of the competition giving rise to 60000 possible extra spectators, and that this 60000 figure was assumed to be a daily figure and when it was discovered it was not, noone would own up and so have perpetuated the myth. As far as I am aware we have a fairly hard time filling Weymouth with the high parking charges on a normal summer, the beaches are nowhere near as packed as they were when parking was freely available, so what planet do these strangers come from where increasing the cost astronomically leads to more take up? the sooner someone takes a stand and admits that it is crippling the town and opens up the link between the esplanade and commercial road the sooner we can get back to normality. I still think this site needs a preview button! Yellowcave

9:47pm Tue 31 Jul 12

ksmain says...

Presstostop wrote:
Here's and interesting fact. The drivers that drive the new and empty double deckers are earning £140 a day and staying at hotels in Poole and Bournemouth. Local Weymouth and Portland hotels are not good enough it seems.
And who is paying for this largesse - those of us that pay taxes!!!

Which is why I reckon a RESPONSIBLE council should act now - come up with a plan as to how many buses are needed for the crowd sizes (I reckon less than 5,000), open all the town to traffic except the prom from Kings Statue to the Pavillion, reduce car park and park & ride fees to pre-Olympic prices (though do I understand from Wessex FM that Monkey Jump is free from tomorrow?) and get sign to display that there is more than adequate parking in the town and restrictions have been lifted.

They might still rescue what I now reckon is close to a disaster.
[quote][p][bold]Presstostop[/bold] wrote: Here's and interesting fact. The drivers that drive the new and empty double deckers are earning £140 a day and staying at hotels in Poole and Bournemouth. Local Weymouth and Portland hotels are not good enough it seems.[/p][/quote]And who is paying for this largesse - those of us that pay taxes!!! Which is why I reckon a RESPONSIBLE council should act now - come up with a plan as to how many buses are needed for the crowd sizes (I reckon less than 5,000), open all the town to traffic except the prom from Kings Statue to the Pavillion, reduce car park and park & ride fees to pre-Olympic prices (though do I understand from Wessex FM that Monkey Jump is free from tomorrow?) and get sign to display that there is more than adequate parking in the town and restrictions have been lifted. They might still rescue what I now reckon is close to a disaster. ksmain

9:50pm Tue 31 Jul 12

PoetPeter says...

This was all predicted time and time again in threads on this website.

Heads must roll. The only person to come out of this with any credit is John Tweed, CEO of the National Sailing Academy, who has achieved magnificently.

We should ask him to run the whole of Dorset and throw out these incompetent numpties, both councillors and WPBC/DCC executives.
This was all predicted time and time again in threads on this website. Heads must roll. The only person to come out of this with any credit is John Tweed, CEO of the National Sailing Academy, who has achieved magnificently. We should ask him to run the whole of Dorset and throw out these incompetent numpties, both councillors and WPBC/DCC executives. PoetPeter

9:59pm Tue 31 Jul 12

ETV says...

ohec says "Brilliant all those greedy businesses that thought they were going to make a fortune have come unstuck"
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You're either a troll or a plank.
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What about all the non greedy businesses that have had nothing but a hammering for the entire olympic run-up and now have lost an entire summer trading?
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Who do you think pays the wages of all the good folk of Weymouth, and the business rates that keep the town alive?
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I don't usually respond to tards but in your case I'm prepared to make an exception.
ohec says "Brilliant all those greedy businesses that thought they were going to make a fortune have come unstuck" . You're either a troll or a plank. . What about all the non greedy businesses that have had nothing but a hammering for the entire olympic run-up and now have lost an entire summer trading? . Who do you think pays the wages of all the good folk of Weymouth, and the business rates that keep the town alive? . I don't usually respond to tards but in your case I'm prepared to make an exception. ETV

10:13pm Tue 31 Jul 12

ianplambert says...

ETV wrote:
ohec says "Brilliant all those greedy businesses that thought they were going to make a fortune have come unstuck"
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You're either a troll or a plank.
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What about all the non greedy businesses that have had nothing but a hammering for the entire olympic run-up and now have lost an entire summer trading?
.
Who do you think pays the wages of all the good folk of Weymouth, and the business rates that keep the town alive?
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I don't usually respond to tards but in your case I'm prepared to make an exception.
Both sides of that are true. Friends of ours are camping this week and the price had jumped from £350 last year to £425 this year!
[quote][p][bold]ETV[/bold] wrote: ohec says "Brilliant all those greedy businesses that thought they were going to make a fortune have come unstuck" . You're either a troll or a plank. . What about all the non greedy businesses that have had nothing but a hammering for the entire olympic run-up and now have lost an entire summer trading? . Who do you think pays the wages of all the good folk of Weymouth, and the business rates that keep the town alive? . I don't usually respond to tards but in your case I'm prepared to make an exception.[/p][/quote]Both sides of that are true. Friends of ours are camping this week and the price had jumped from £350 last year to £425 this year! ianplambert

10:19pm Tue 31 Jul 12

ianplambert says...

We have a population of 70,000 ish. From enquiries made it seems that the town can handle £150,000 with a good Carnival day bringing in 200,000 and with that the town is heaving. Those figures are not enough to have secured funding for the new roads, I believe the figure have to be higher in order to secure this level of funding. So it begs the question; Were the figures falsified or was some kind of genuine catastrophic mistake made?
We have a population of 70,000 ish. From enquiries made it seems that the town can handle £150,000 with a good Carnival day bringing in 200,000 and with that the town is heaving. Those figures are not enough to have secured funding for the new roads, I believe the figure have to be higher in order to secure this level of funding. So it begs the question; Were the figures falsified or was some kind of genuine catastrophic mistake made? ianplambert

10:21pm Tue 31 Jul 12

ARRHH! says...

It really doesn't help that Dorset County Council have told it's staff to stay at home! Does everything stop beacause of the Olympics?
It really doesn't help that Dorset County Council have told it's staff to stay at home! Does everything stop beacause of the Olympics? ARRHH!

10:24pm Tue 31 Jul 12

ronlin says...

I live in poole and have avoided weymouth like the plague because of the olympics , when ive seen weymouth on tv i noticed the screening all around the beach areas blocking the sea from the view of anyone walking along the front , no wonder people stay away .
I live in poole and have avoided weymouth like the plague because of the olympics , when ive seen weymouth on tv i noticed the screening all around the beach areas blocking the sea from the view of anyone walking along the front , no wonder people stay away . ronlin

10:39pm Tue 31 Jul 12

jcrwey says...

Lots of visitors have been commenting how well organised and efficient the councils organisation has been.

They have also organised the fantastic Weymouth Ambassador programme - visitors have loved the helpful pink people along the seafront.
Lots of visitors have been commenting how well organised and efficient the councils organisation has been. They have also organised the fantastic Weymouth Ambassador programme - visitors have loved the helpful pink people along the seafront. jcrwey

10:48pm Tue 31 Jul 12

jcrwey says...

Free Parking in some of the Park & Ride sites from tomorrow.

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Free Parking in some of the Park & Ride sites from tomorrow. http://www.facebook. com/notes/weymouth-p ortland/free-olympic -car-parking-in-weym outh-confirmed-great -news-for-2012-visit ors-and-/10150821657 438078 jcrwey

11:05pm Tue 31 Jul 12

bobby1966 says...

well i decided to have a stroll to the bayside festival tonight. and you have to see why people say the prices are offputting heres a few examples(which i refused to buy) 1 bacon bap (1 roll 2 slices of bacon and a tissue) price 5-00 each , 1 crab sandwhich with a bit of salad 8-00 pound . a can of coke 1-40 also a couple of clothing stalls which were not of a great name charging silly money for tops because they had a boat on also was a lady selling flip flops for 30 quid a throw lmao .

so we decided to head to the free site and tbh it was like a creche on the sports side full of kids and nothing of real interest for adults apart from maybe trying sailing then you have the 2 free screens but why would you want to pay for travel to watch something you can watch at home.
well i decided to have a stroll to the bayside festival tonight. and you have to see why people say the prices are offputting heres a few examples(which i refused to buy) 1 bacon bap (1 roll 2 slices of bacon and a tissue) price 5-00 each , 1 crab sandwhich with a bit of salad 8-00 pound . a can of coke 1-40 also a couple of clothing stalls which were not of a great name charging silly money for tops because they had a boat on also was a lady selling flip flops for 30 quid a throw lmao . so we decided to head to the free site and tbh it was like a creche on the sports side full of kids and nothing of real interest for adults apart from maybe trying sailing then you have the 2 free screens but why would you want to pay for travel to watch something you can watch at home. bobby1966

12:20am Wed 1 Aug 12

Taxpayinglocal says...

ETV wrote:
ohec says "Brilliant all those greedy businesses that thought they were going to make a fortune have come unstuck"
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You're either a troll or a plank.
.
What about all the non greedy businesses that have had nothing but a hammering for the entire olympic run-up and now have lost an entire summer trading?
.
Who do you think pays the wages of all the good folk of Weymouth, and the business rates that keep the town alive?
.
I don't usually respond to tards but in your case I'm prepared to make an exception.
nice post, i own a Taxi and if theres one thing we cannot do with our business and that is higher our prices, our fares whether you use a rank car, bee cars, weyline or fleetline are all exactly the same rate they were in the depths of Winter. Taxi driving in any seaside resort is a lucrative income especially Weymouth with its popularity, but im afraid its the Olympics which has hit us hard this summer/week so far. Let alone them closing the seafront completely where our taxi rank is, there is quite a few ppl up that way in the day, we would actually get a little business. But of course, that would be too much thought for local businesses to allow something like that.
[quote][p][bold]ETV[/bold] wrote: ohec says "Brilliant all those greedy businesses that thought they were going to make a fortune have come unstuck" . You're either a troll or a plank. . What about all the non greedy businesses that have had nothing but a hammering for the entire olympic run-up and now have lost an entire summer trading? . Who do you think pays the wages of all the good folk of Weymouth, and the business rates that keep the town alive? . I don't usually respond to tards but in your case I'm prepared to make an exception.[/p][/quote]nice post, i own a Taxi and if theres one thing we cannot do with our business and that is higher our prices, our fares whether you use a rank car, bee cars, weyline or fleetline are all exactly the same rate they were in the depths of Winter. Taxi driving in any seaside resort is a lucrative income especially Weymouth with its popularity, but im afraid its the Olympics which has hit us hard this summer/week so far. Let alone them closing the seafront completely where our taxi rank is, there is quite a few ppl up that way in the day, we would actually get a little business. But of course, that would be too much thought for local businesses to allow something like that. Taxpayinglocal

12:20am Wed 1 Aug 12

Saddler says...

Look on the bright side. At least we haven't attracted the Beckhams yet!
Look on the bright side. At least we haven't attracted the Beckhams yet! Saddler

5:12am Wed 1 Aug 12

EtaoinShrdlu says...

This has been coming for years, the council rolls over when promised money for roads, millions get spent, brown envelopes filled, nudge nudge wink wink you scratch my back etc. And after all that the Chawler lookalikes can't screw any more benefit money so have to stay home (ie council houses) and scull their two for the price of one high octane cider and puff on their duty frees. Line up the councillors who predicted the bonanza and throw them one by one from the top of the Weymuff Tower. Now watch them bid for the Commonwealth Games!!!!!!
This has been coming for years, the council rolls over when promised money for roads, millions get spent, brown envelopes filled, nudge nudge wink wink you scratch my back etc. And after all that the Chawler lookalikes can't screw any more benefit money so have to stay home (ie council houses) and scull their two for the price of one high octane cider and puff on their duty frees. Line up the councillors who predicted the bonanza and throw them one by one from the top of the Weymuff Tower. Now watch them bid for the Commonwealth Games!!!!!! EtaoinShrdlu

7:28am Wed 1 Aug 12

JamesYoung says...

jcrwey wrote:
Lots of visitors have been commenting how well organised and efficient the councils organisation has been.

They have also organised the fantastic Weymouth Ambassador programme - visitors have loved the helpful pink people along the seafront.
"Lots of visitors" ...... Well that's where your claim starts to fall apart.

With the millions that have been spent, it's no surprise that the handful of visitors feel the system is running efficiently. The ambassadors are great, but there are clearly a lot more than necessary. I assume they are volunteers.
[quote][p][bold]jcrwey[/bold] wrote: Lots of visitors have been commenting how well organised and efficient the councils organisation has been. They have also organised the fantastic Weymouth Ambassador programme - visitors have loved the helpful pink people along the seafront.[/p][/quote]"Lots of visitors" ...... Well that's where your claim starts to fall apart. With the millions that have been spent, it's no surprise that the handful of visitors feel the system is running efficiently. The ambassadors are great, but there are clearly a lot more than necessary. I assume they are volunteers. JamesYoung

8:01am Wed 1 Aug 12

Ashers 5 says...

This was taken from a National newspaper..."Returni
ng from Hastings the other night, steered well clear of london (M25 signs displaying avoid london)and got back home reasonably quick. Was going to visit Weymouth again this year but decided not to bother because of the Olympics".
Just one example....how many more have decided not to come here ?
Without a shadow of doubt the Olympics has put and will continue to put off folks coming to Weymouth.
This was taken from a National newspaper..."Returni ng from Hastings the other night, steered well clear of london (M25 signs displaying avoid london)and got back home reasonably quick. Was going to visit Weymouth again this year but decided not to bother because of the Olympics". Just one example....how many more have decided not to come here ? Without a shadow of doubt the Olympics has put and will continue to put off folks coming to Weymouth. Ashers 5

8:04am Wed 1 Aug 12

cj07589 says...

rjimmer wrote:
izzyarch wrote:
Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.
I think your humour was lost on some people!!! Still, if the cap fits, they can wear it.
Good work Lizzyarch, I love the candid description it is 95% spot on. We don't bother going to Weymouth in the summer as it's mostly overflowing with uncouth Tattooed drunk chavs. It's sad some are unable to see it for what it actually is but then again it sort of sums up their out look generally. Keep up the good work!
[quote][p][bold]rjimmer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]izzyarch[/bold] wrote: Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.[/p][/quote]I think your humour was lost on some people!!! Still, if the cap fits, they can wear it.[/p][/quote]Good work Lizzyarch, I love the candid description it is 95% spot on. We don't bother going to Weymouth in the summer as it's mostly overflowing with uncouth Tattooed drunk chavs. It's sad some are unable to see it for what it actually is but then again it sort of sums up their out look generally. Keep up the good work! cj07589

8:08am Wed 1 Aug 12

satisfecho says...

http://www.yachtingw
orld.com/blogs/elain
e-bunting/532271/a-b
rilliant-day-at-the-
sailing-olympics
http://www.yachtingw orld.com/blogs/elain e-bunting/532271/a-b rilliant-day-at-the- sailing-olympics satisfecho

8:11am Wed 1 Aug 12

Caption Sensible says...

The relentless malcontent shown by some, right from the Olympic announcement.

The inept, confusing and negative travel advice given by Dorset County Council.

The remorseless detrimental reporting by a so-called supportive local newspaper.

Have all combined in an attempt to thwart an opportunity to spring-board this borough to another level,

Well done to you all - I hope you are proud of yourselves...

But I have news for you - the Olympics is, and will continue to be a success in Weymouth & Portland. And the borough will move forwards, with or without you.
The relentless malcontent shown by some, right from the Olympic announcement. The inept, confusing and negative travel advice given by Dorset County Council. The remorseless detrimental reporting by a so-called supportive local newspaper. Have all combined in an attempt to thwart an opportunity to spring-board this borough to another level, Well done to you all - I hope you are proud of yourselves... But I have news for you - the Olympics is, and will continue to be a success in Weymouth & Portland. And the borough will move forwards, with or without you. Caption Sensible

8:13am Wed 1 Aug 12

satisfecho says...

Ashers 5 wrote:
This was taken from a National newspaper..."Re
turni
ng from Hastings the other night, steered well clear of london (M25 signs displaying avoid london)and got back home reasonably quick. Was going to visit Weymouth again this year but decided not to bother because of the Olympics".
Just one example....how many more have decided not to come here ?
Without a shadow of doubt the Olympics has put and will continue to put off folks coming to Weymouth.
And on another side of the coin, the a Yachting forum.

I've just booked a decent looking guest house for 2 adults and 1 child (family room) for £95 a night. One call to Weymouth Tourist Info and a list of places with vacancies took 2 minutes.

If the pictures on the web are accurate, 5 mins from Weymouth beach for that money during the Olmypics seems reasonable.

470 Women's racing is on....if Saskia Clark and Hannah Mills read YBW and need any top tips, feel free to PM me!
[quote][p][bold]Ashers 5[/bold] wrote: This was taken from a National newspaper..."Re turni ng from Hastings the other night, steered well clear of london (M25 signs displaying avoid london)and got back home reasonably quick. Was going to visit Weymouth again this year but decided not to bother because of the Olympics". Just one example....how many more have decided not to come here ? Without a shadow of doubt the Olympics has put and will continue to put off folks coming to Weymouth.[/p][/quote]And on another side of the coin, the a Yachting forum. I've just booked a decent looking guest house for 2 adults and 1 child (family room) for £95 a night. One call to Weymouth Tourist Info and a list of places with vacancies took 2 minutes. If the pictures on the web are accurate, 5 mins from Weymouth beach for that money during the Olmypics seems reasonable. 470 Women's racing is on....if Saskia Clark and Hannah Mills read YBW and need any top tips, feel free to PM me! satisfecho

8:51am Wed 1 Aug 12

osmington4 says...

Well I think it`s really sad that Weymouth is so quiet. The council clearly have spent some cash on new buses and every single one of them has been empty or nearly so. It`s like the Marie Celeste in Weymouth..........ve
ry disappointing for the local traders as they were probably hoping the Olympics would turn their trade around. What about all the locals who were going to let their houses for thousands of pounds every week???? I think it`s quite embarassing for the organisers as well....it`s like having a party and nobody going to it. Shame. Everthing has been overpriced and let`s face it sailing is and never will be a spectator sport. Why anyone would want to pay £70 plus to sit at the Nothe and stare at a load of white sails miles out to sea baffles me........I`m sure things will pick up post Olympics.
Well I think it`s really sad that Weymouth is so quiet. The council clearly have spent some cash on new buses and every single one of them has been empty or nearly so. It`s like the Marie Celeste in Weymouth..........ve ry disappointing for the local traders as they were probably hoping the Olympics would turn their trade around. What about all the locals who were going to let their houses for thousands of pounds every week???? I think it`s quite embarassing for the organisers as well....it`s like having a party and nobody going to it. Shame. Everthing has been overpriced and let`s face it sailing is and never will be a spectator sport. Why anyone would want to pay £70 plus to sit at the Nothe and stare at a load of white sails miles out to sea baffles me........I`m sure things will pick up post Olympics. osmington4

8:52am Wed 1 Aug 12

JamesYoung says...

satisfecho wrote:
Ashers 5 wrote:
This was taken from a National newspaper..."Re

turni
ng from Hastings the other night, steered well clear of london (M25 signs displaying avoid london)and got back home reasonably quick. Was going to visit Weymouth again this year but decided not to bother because of the Olympics".
Just one example....how many more have decided not to come here ?
Without a shadow of doubt the Olympics has put and will continue to put off folks coming to Weymouth.
And on another side of the coin, the a Yachting forum.

I've just booked a decent looking guest house for 2 adults and 1 child (family room) for £95 a night. One call to Weymouth Tourist Info and a list of places with vacancies took 2 minutes.

If the pictures on the web are accurate, 5 mins from Weymouth beach for that money during the Olmypics seems reasonable.

470 Women's racing is on....if Saskia Clark and Hannah Mills read YBW and need any top tips, feel free to PM me!
Do you not see the irony in what you've just posted? People are able to book rooms at low prices! Where is all the extra trade that was promised? The Olympics are proving to be great for s locals with no dependence on the tourism economy but they have been a disaster for many local businesses.
As for the "relentless malcontent" referred to by Captain Sensible, I have been saying for four years that the event was being overhyped, not because of some ideological fanaticism, but because experience from Sydney, Beijing, Vancouver - all f which is well documented in academic sources,says that the return on investment is negligible and for satellite towns, negative. As one paper put it, when asked to name the town that hosted the sailing events in the 2004 Olympics, not one person in a hundred asked could do so. Just because you question a dogma does not make your view wrong.
[quote][p][bold]satisfecho[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashers 5[/bold] wrote: This was taken from a National newspaper..."Re turni ng from Hastings the other night, steered well clear of london (M25 signs displaying avoid london)and got back home reasonably quick. Was going to visit Weymouth again this year but decided not to bother because of the Olympics". Just one example....how many more have decided not to come here ? Without a shadow of doubt the Olympics has put and will continue to put off folks coming to Weymouth.[/p][/quote]And on another side of the coin, the a Yachting forum. I've just booked a decent looking guest house for 2 adults and 1 child (family room) for £95 a night. One call to Weymouth Tourist Info and a list of places with vacancies took 2 minutes. If the pictures on the web are accurate, 5 mins from Weymouth beach for that money during the Olmypics seems reasonable. 470 Women's racing is on....if Saskia Clark and Hannah Mills read YBW and need any top tips, feel free to PM me![/p][/quote]Do you not see the irony in what you've just posted? People are able to book rooms at low prices! Where is all the extra trade that was promised? The Olympics are proving to be great for s locals with no dependence on the tourism economy but they have been a disaster for many local businesses. As for the "relentless malcontent" referred to by Captain Sensible, I have been saying for four years that the event was being overhyped, not because of some ideological fanaticism, but because experience from Sydney, Beijing, Vancouver - all f which is well documented in academic sources,says that the return on investment is negligible and for satellite towns, negative. As one paper put it, when asked to name the town that hosted the sailing events in the 2004 Olympics, not one person in a hundred asked could do so. Just because you question a dogma does not make your view wrong. JamesYoung

8:57am Wed 1 Aug 12

Nuttynutjob says...

Black Raven wrote:
For months & months before the Olympics arrived the council has made life difficult for residents & businesses alike, major road works, ridiculous traffic systems (Asda - not to mention their ridiculous car park too), high parking charges, cutting of 1 hour free parking places, extortionate rents & cost cutting inappropriately (Weymouth Harbour - (who the heck didn't monitor that breadwinner !!) Condor has gone & I'm pretty positive they will avoid coming back especially due to the high complaints of problems getting cars off in the peak of summer because of the system of narrowing along the Esplanade. I loved Weymouth, pretty little seaside town, ruined by it's council, I like many have been driven to shop elsewhere & won't be coming back until the road,parking systems change. Shops were pulling out long before the Olympics, high rents, on-line shopping & the recession not helping but also accessibility. Don't blame the Olympics WPBC & DCC were already on a suicidal path. Support Bring back the Old Weymouth yes! Bring back free parking, make access easier, drops rents, that way the people will come back, it will take time though & for Weymouth the sand is running low.... Most people I know are in the same mind, it's only worth coming to Weymouth to get your hair done! And no I'm not moaning I'm being realistic....
I couldn't agree more. As you read the comments posted here over the last few years it becomes so very apparent that the council is a regime. Seldom responding to the resident, and would seem to be actively working toward the inevitable - a town centre of boarded up units and charity shops. They had to pander to Olympic activity, but their plan started many years ago. Why would you pay £4 to park and buy some second hand clothes? Thank goodness my Wife's shop closed last year, it would have been double the debt if we had kept going..
[quote][p][bold]Black Raven[/bold] wrote: For months & months before the Olympics arrived the council has made life difficult for residents & businesses alike, major road works, ridiculous traffic systems (Asda - not to mention their ridiculous car park too), high parking charges, cutting of 1 hour free parking places, extortionate rents & cost cutting inappropriately (Weymouth Harbour - (who the heck didn't monitor that breadwinner !!) Condor has gone & I'm pretty positive they will avoid coming back especially due to the high complaints of problems getting cars off in the peak of summer because of the system of narrowing along the Esplanade. I loved Weymouth, pretty little seaside town, ruined by it's council, I like many have been driven to shop elsewhere & won't be coming back until the road,parking systems change. Shops were pulling out long before the Olympics, high rents, on-line shopping & the recession not helping but also accessibility. Don't blame the Olympics WPBC & DCC were already on a suicidal path. Support Bring back the Old Weymouth yes! Bring back free parking, make access easier, drops rents, that way the people will come back, it will take time though & for Weymouth the sand is running low.... Most people I know are in the same mind, it's only worth coming to Weymouth to get your hair done! And no I'm not moaning I'm being realistic....[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more. As you read the comments posted here over the last few years it becomes so very apparent that the council is a regime. Seldom responding to the resident, and would seem to be actively working toward the inevitable - a town centre of boarded up units and charity shops. They had to pander to Olympic activity, but their plan started many years ago. Why would you pay £4 to park and buy some second hand clothes? Thank goodness my Wife's shop closed last year, it would have been double the debt if we had kept going.. Nuttynutjob

9:03am Wed 1 Aug 12

ianplambert says...

What is needed now is for the businesses to get together, something in it's self that rarely happens in this country. Instead of **** and bemoaning eachother, if all the businesses got together with a joint class action legal case they would win hands down and the Council or the Olympic organisers would have to pay up. Some businesses are coining it in from the Council alreeady, for example are some fishermen being paid £3,500 per week not to fish for the Olympics? Who else is being paid not to work? Come on Weymouth businesses, get your acts together and work WITH eachother for a change!
What is needed now is for the businesses to get together, something in it's self that rarely happens in this country. Instead of **** and bemoaning eachother, if all the businesses got together with a joint class action legal case they would win hands down and the Council or the Olympic organisers would have to pay up. Some businesses are coining it in from the Council alreeady, for example are some fishermen being paid £3,500 per week not to fish for the Olympics? Who else is being paid not to work? Come on Weymouth businesses, get your acts together and work WITH eachother for a change! ianplambert

9:04am Wed 1 Aug 12

Nuttynutjob says...

5 weeks ago there was a sign at the top of the M3 (southbound) displaying 'Weymouth and Portland Olympic sailing events - expect delays' it put me off and I live here..
5 weeks ago there was a sign at the top of the M3 (southbound) displaying 'Weymouth and Portland Olympic sailing events - expect delays' it put me off and I live here.. Nuttynutjob

9:06am Wed 1 Aug 12

Merrittpr says...

Well it's Wednesday already and the Olympic sailing has been on for a good few days now. The weather seems to be on the turn so I would anticipate less visitors to the beach. Let's see if those in charge start looking at how the arrangements have gone so far and start to make changes ASAP based on attendance figures and the concerns of locals raised on various platforms including this one. There is absolutely no excuse if action is not taken soon to rectify matters based on all the data over the last few days......
Well it's Wednesday already and the Olympic sailing has been on for a good few days now. The weather seems to be on the turn so I would anticipate less visitors to the beach. Let's see if those in charge start looking at how the arrangements have gone so far and start to make changes ASAP based on attendance figures and the concerns of locals raised on various platforms including this one. There is absolutely no excuse if action is not taken soon to rectify matters based on all the data over the last few days...... Merrittpr

9:07am Wed 1 Aug 12

satisfecho says...

JamesYoung wrote:
satisfecho wrote:
Ashers 5 wrote:
This was taken from a National newspaper..."Re


turni
ng from Hastings the other night, steered well clear of london (M25 signs displaying avoid london)and got back home reasonably quick. Was going to visit Weymouth again this year but decided not to bother because of the Olympics".
Just one example....how many more have decided not to come here ?
Without a shadow of doubt the Olympics has put and will continue to put off folks coming to Weymouth.
And on another side of the coin, the a Yachting forum.

I've just booked a decent looking guest house for 2 adults and 1 child (family room) for £95 a night. One call to Weymouth Tourist Info and a list of places with vacancies took 2 minutes.

If the pictures on the web are accurate, 5 mins from Weymouth beach for that money during the Olmypics seems reasonable.

470 Women's racing is on....if Saskia Clark and Hannah Mills read YBW and need any top tips, feel free to PM me!
Do you not see the irony in what you've just posted? People are able to book rooms at low prices! Where is all the extra trade that was promised? The Olympics are proving to be great for s locals with no dependence on the tourism economy but they have been a disaster for many local businesses.
As for the "relentless malcontent" referred to by Captain Sensible, I have been saying for four years that the event was being overhyped, not because of some ideological fanaticism, but because experience from Sydney, Beijing, Vancouver - all f which is well documented in academic sources,says that the return on investment is negligible and for satellite towns, negative. As one paper put it, when asked to name the town that hosted the sailing events in the 2004 Olympics, not one person in a hundred asked could do so. Just because you question a dogma does not make your view wrong.
But if they tried to book a couple of weeks back would they have been charged £95.00?

Some B&B's are saying they are booked up as they did not raise prices.

Others are not booked up and some of those have been trying to get half as much again if not double or more.

That's the irony.
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]satisfecho[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashers 5[/bold] wrote: This was taken from a National newspaper..."Re turni ng from Hastings the other night, steered well clear of london (M25 signs displaying avoid london)and got back home reasonably quick. Was going to visit Weymouth again this year but decided not to bother because of the Olympics". Just one example....how many more have decided not to come here ? Without a shadow of doubt the Olympics has put and will continue to put off folks coming to Weymouth.[/p][/quote]And on another side of the coin, the a Yachting forum. I've just booked a decent looking guest house for 2 adults and 1 child (family room) for £95 a night. One call to Weymouth Tourist Info and a list of places with vacancies took 2 minutes. If the pictures on the web are accurate, 5 mins from Weymouth beach for that money during the Olmypics seems reasonable. 470 Women's racing is on....if Saskia Clark and Hannah Mills read YBW and need any top tips, feel free to PM me![/p][/quote]Do you not see the irony in what you've just posted? People are able to book rooms at low prices! Where is all the extra trade that was promised? The Olympics are proving to be great for s locals with no dependence on the tourism economy but they have been a disaster for many local businesses. As for the "relentless malcontent" referred to by Captain Sensible, I have been saying for four years that the event was being overhyped, not because of some ideological fanaticism, but because experience from Sydney, Beijing, Vancouver - all f which is well documented in academic sources,says that the return on investment is negligible and for satellite towns, negative. As one paper put it, when asked to name the town that hosted the sailing events in the 2004 Olympics, not one person in a hundred asked could do so. Just because you question a dogma does not make your view wrong.[/p][/quote]But if they tried to book a couple of weeks back would they have been charged £95.00? Some B&B's are saying they are booked up as they did not raise prices. Others are not booked up and some of those have been trying to get half as much again if not double or more. That's the irony. satisfecho

9:33am Wed 1 Aug 12

PoetPeter says...

Caption Sensible wrote:
The relentless malcontent shown by some, right from the Olympic announcement.

The inept, confusing and negative travel advice given by Dorset County Council.

The remorseless detrimental reporting by a so-called supportive local newspaper.

Have all combined in an attempt to thwart an opportunity to spring-board this borough to another level,

Well done to you all - I hope you are proud of yourselves...

But I have news for you - the Olympics is, and will continue to be a success in Weymouth & Portland. And the borough will move forwards, with or without you.
You're delusional Cap'n. The sport may be a success and the National Sailing Academy certainly is but for Weymouth and Dorset it is a disaster, a sacrifice for the egos and ambitions of incompetent politicians and civil servants.

The class action suit against the councils seems like a fine idea. These crooks and conmen who have destroyed our town and robbed so much taxpayer's money must not be allowed to get away with it!
[quote][p][bold]Caption Sensible[/bold] wrote: The relentless malcontent shown by some, right from the Olympic announcement. The inept, confusing and negative travel advice given by Dorset County Council. The remorseless detrimental reporting by a so-called supportive local newspaper. Have all combined in an attempt to thwart an opportunity to spring-board this borough to another level, Well done to you all - I hope you are proud of yourselves... But I have news for you - the Olympics is, and will continue to be a success in Weymouth & Portland. And the borough will move forwards, with or without you.[/p][/quote]You're delusional Cap'n. The sport may be a success and the National Sailing Academy certainly is but for Weymouth and Dorset it is a disaster, a sacrifice for the egos and ambitions of incompetent politicians and civil servants. The class action suit against the councils seems like a fine idea. These crooks and conmen who have destroyed our town and robbed so much taxpayer's money must not be allowed to get away with it! PoetPeter

10:01am Wed 1 Aug 12

JamesYoung says...

PoetPeter wrote:
Caption Sensible wrote:
The relentless malcontent shown by some, right from the Olympic announcement.

The inept, confusing and negative travel advice given by Dorset County Council.

The remorseless detrimental reporting by a so-called supportive local newspaper.

Have all combined in an attempt to thwart an opportunity to spring-board this borough to another level,

Well done to you all - I hope you are proud of yourselves...

But I have news for you - the Olympics is, and will continue to be a success in Weymouth & Portland. And the borough will move forwards, with or without you.
You're delusional Cap'n. The sport may be a success and the National Sailing Academy certainly is but for Weymouth and Dorset it is a disaster, a sacrifice for the egos and ambitions of incompetent politicians and civil servants.

The class action suit against the councils seems like a fine idea. These crooks and conmen who have destroyed our town and robbed so much taxpayer's money must not be allowed to get away with it!
A fine idea indeed, but class actions are not permissible in England. There was some talk of changing the legislation, but then everybody would sue RBS and as the taxpayer owns it ....
[quote][p][bold]PoetPeter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caption Sensible[/bold] wrote: The relentless malcontent shown by some, right from the Olympic announcement. The inept, confusing and negative travel advice given by Dorset County Council. The remorseless detrimental reporting by a so-called supportive local newspaper. Have all combined in an attempt to thwart an opportunity to spring-board this borough to another level, Well done to you all - I hope you are proud of yourselves... But I have news for you - the Olympics is, and will continue to be a success in Weymouth & Portland. And the borough will move forwards, with or without you.[/p][/quote]You're delusional Cap'n. The sport may be a success and the National Sailing Academy certainly is but for Weymouth and Dorset it is a disaster, a sacrifice for the egos and ambitions of incompetent politicians and civil servants. The class action suit against the councils seems like a fine idea. These crooks and conmen who have destroyed our town and robbed so much taxpayer's money must not be allowed to get away with it![/p][/quote]A fine idea indeed, but class actions are not permissible in England. There was some talk of changing the legislation, but then everybody would sue RBS and as the taxpayer owns it .... JamesYoung

10:09am Wed 1 Aug 12

Imaginebooks says...

Well - we've certainly got community spirit over this, anyway - even if it is mostly negative. Yes, people have been put off coming during the Olympics - by the transport organisation; by some ridiculous hotel prices; and - by Weymouth's unrelenting whinging! For God's sake! We have the most wonderful town and Island in the World - and now the Greatest Show on Earth has come to Weymouth and Portland! Stop whinging Weymouth and take a lesson from our Olympians - if an Olympian falls during a race, they don't just stand there and look around for someone to blame THEY GET UP AS FAST AS THEY CAN AND RUN FASTER THAN EVER TO TRY AND WIN THE RACE! That's what we have to do now. Tell everyone how wonderful Weymouth and Portland are! Smile and WELCOME our visitors! If we are not overrun we have a golden opportunity to give them the holiday of a lifetime and the welcome and service they deserve. Welcome the World to our wonderful Town!
Well - we've certainly got community spirit over this, anyway - even if it is mostly negative. Yes, people have been put off coming during the Olympics - by the transport organisation; by some ridiculous hotel prices; and - by Weymouth's unrelenting whinging! For God's sake! We have the most wonderful town and Island in the World - and now the Greatest Show on Earth has come to Weymouth and Portland! Stop whinging Weymouth and take a lesson from our Olympians - if an Olympian falls during a race, they don't just stand there and look around for someone to blame THEY GET UP AS FAST AS THEY CAN AND RUN FASTER THAN EVER TO TRY AND WIN THE RACE! That's what we have to do now. Tell everyone how wonderful Weymouth and Portland are! Smile and WELCOME our visitors! If we are not overrun we have a golden opportunity to give them the holiday of a lifetime and the welcome and service they deserve. Welcome the World to our wonderful Town! Imaginebooks

10:14am Wed 1 Aug 12

ianplambert says...

The use of the phrase 'class action' was wrong of me, however there is no law that says likeminded people can't get together and sue.

The trouble is most of the traders I know only look out for themselves and only come together to gang up on someone else, shame really.

Too many of our Councillors for far too long have been working on their own agendas instead of the community benefit. The best legacy they could have left was to 'invent' 1,000 jobs that were sustainable forever. In a town like this where it relys heavily on seasonal employment, a legacy of 1,000 sustainable jobs would have been something to have been proud of. The money they have wasted could have done 3 times that. If they had any decency they would resign and let someone with a bit more get up and go take over!
The use of the phrase 'class action' was wrong of me, however there is no law that says likeminded people can't get together and sue. The trouble is most of the traders I know only look out for themselves and only come together to gang up on someone else, shame really. Too many of our Councillors for far too long have been working on their own agendas instead of the community benefit. The best legacy they could have left was to 'invent' 1,000 jobs that were sustainable forever. In a town like this where it relys heavily on seasonal employment, a legacy of 1,000 sustainable jobs would have been something to have been proud of. The money they have wasted could have done 3 times that. If they had any decency they would resign and let someone with a bit more get up and go take over! ianplambert

10:21am Wed 1 Aug 12

ohec says...

Very sad to see how Weymouth has degenerated over the last 30/40 years and this Olympic farce has just about finished the job, is it too late to turn things around yes i think it is without massive investment and i can't see that happening at least not in the short term. W&PBC have missed out on a fabulous opportunity to make some radical changes to Weymouth like selling the council offices for development, why do they need to be in such a prime position all they need is a small shop in town for payments and the rest of the offices could be on the Granby or Lynch Lane. Weymouth started loosing its charm when they built the Swannery Bridge and ever since then it has gone down hill and gradually lost the unique charm that made Weymouth what it was, and now i am afraid to say it will be in the doldrums for many years to come.
Very sad to see how Weymouth has degenerated over the last 30/40 years and this Olympic farce has just about finished the job, is it too late to turn things around yes i think it is without massive investment and i can't see that happening at least not in the short term. W&PBC have missed out on a fabulous opportunity to make some radical changes to Weymouth like selling the council offices for development, why do they need to be in such a prime position all they need is a small shop in town for payments and the rest of the offices could be on the Granby or Lynch Lane. Weymouth started loosing its charm when they built the Swannery Bridge and ever since then it has gone down hill and gradually lost the unique charm that made Weymouth what it was, and now i am afraid to say it will be in the doldrums for many years to come. ohec

10:40am Wed 1 Aug 12

monkeydog says...

satisfecho wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
satisfecho wrote:
Ashers 5 wrote:
This was taken from a National newspaper..."Re



turni
ng from Hastings the other night, steered well clear of london (M25 signs displaying avoid london)and got back home reasonably quick. Was going to visit Weymouth again this year but decided not to bother because of the Olympics".
Just one example....how many more have decided not to come here ?
Without a shadow of doubt the Olympics has put and will continue to put off folks coming to Weymouth.
And on another side of the coin, the a Yachting forum.

I've just booked a decent looking guest house for 2 adults and 1 child (family room) for £95 a night. One call to Weymouth Tourist Info and a list of places with vacancies took 2 minutes.

If the pictures on the web are accurate, 5 mins from Weymouth beach for that money during the Olmypics seems reasonable.

470 Women's racing is on....if Saskia Clark and Hannah Mills read YBW and need any top tips, feel free to PM me!
Do you not see the irony in what you've just posted? People are able to book rooms at low prices! Where is all the extra trade that was promised? The Olympics are proving to be great for s locals with no dependence on the tourism economy but they have been a disaster for many local businesses.
As for the "relentless malcontent" referred to by Captain Sensible, I have been saying for four years that the event was being overhyped, not because of some ideological fanaticism, but because experience from Sydney, Beijing, Vancouver - all f which is well documented in academic sources,says that the return on investment is negligible and for satellite towns, negative. As one paper put it, when asked to name the town that hosted the sailing events in the 2004 Olympics, not one person in a hundred asked could do so. Just because you question a dogma does not make your view wrong.
But if they tried to book a couple of weeks back would they have been charged £95.00?

Some B&B's are saying they are booked up as they did not raise prices.

Others are not booked up and some of those have been trying to get half as much again if not double or more.

That's the irony.
The guesthouses near mine are charging last years prices, have fewer visitors because of the Olympics and are obviously making less money. I've heard of places charging ridiculous amounts but have yet to identify one.
[quote][p][bold]satisfecho[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]satisfecho[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashers 5[/bold] wrote: This was taken from a National newspaper..."Re turni ng from Hastings the other night, steered well clear of london (M25 signs displaying avoid london)and got back home reasonably quick. Was going to visit Weymouth again this year but decided not to bother because of the Olympics". Just one example....how many more have decided not to come here ? Without a shadow of doubt the Olympics has put and will continue to put off folks coming to Weymouth.[/p][/quote]And on another side of the coin, the a Yachting forum. I've just booked a decent looking guest house for 2 adults and 1 child (family room) for £95 a night. One call to Weymouth Tourist Info and a list of places with vacancies took 2 minutes. If the pictures on the web are accurate, 5 mins from Weymouth beach for that money during the Olmypics seems reasonable. 470 Women's racing is on....if Saskia Clark and Hannah Mills read YBW and need any top tips, feel free to PM me![/p][/quote]Do you not see the irony in what you've just posted? People are able to book rooms at low prices! Where is all the extra trade that was promised? The Olympics are proving to be great for s locals with no dependence on the tourism economy but they have been a disaster for many local businesses. As for the "relentless malcontent" referred to by Captain Sensible, I have been saying for four years that the event was being overhyped, not because of some ideological fanaticism, but because experience from Sydney, Beijing, Vancouver - all f which is well documented in academic sources,says that the return on investment is negligible and for satellite towns, negative. As one paper put it, when asked to name the town that hosted the sailing events in the 2004 Olympics, not one person in a hundred asked could do so. Just because you question a dogma does not make your view wrong.[/p][/quote]But if they tried to book a couple of weeks back would they have been charged £95.00? Some B&B's are saying they are booked up as they did not raise prices. Others are not booked up and some of those have been trying to get half as much again if not double or more. That's the irony.[/p][/quote]The guesthouses near mine are charging last years prices, have fewer visitors because of the Olympics and are obviously making less money. I've heard of places charging ridiculous amounts but have yet to identify one. monkeydog

10:44am Wed 1 Aug 12

wildcatrod says...

Surely one thing is obvious that nobody seems to have picked up on. If you are an enthusiast for the Olympics, What you really want to be doing is staying at home glued to the goggle-box. That way you can have a running update of the progress and choose the events you most want to see.
I was one of the people caught out in the traffic chaos on the first day of the King Street closure. Had we kept our roundabouts we could have done about turns quickly and with no fuss. Perhaps, now that the numpty who was on a contract to design the smart light project has gone, can we have the roundabouts back please?
Surely one thing is obvious that nobody seems to have picked up on. If you are an enthusiast for the Olympics, What you really want to be doing is staying at home glued to the goggle-box. That way you can have a running update of the progress and choose the events you most want to see. I was one of the people caught out in the traffic chaos on the first day of the King Street closure. Had we kept our roundabouts we could have done about turns quickly and with no fuss. Perhaps, now that the numpty who was on a contract to design the smart light project has gone, can we have the roundabouts back please? wildcatrod

10:49am Wed 1 Aug 12

Doc Watson says...

What astonishes me is the apparent surprise. When Weymouth was confirmed as the venue for these games a few of us wondered what the impact would be, so we asked sailing clubs at previous venues what their experiences had been - they all said the same, no big numbers. These comments were published on the Echo forum and put face to face to certain council officials (who's smug reply "just wait and see" must be haunting them now)
It's such a shame, the facilities and entertainments in place are awesome and the council should be congratulated for that, but those officials that failed to do even basic research, and especially those who were stupid enough to tell hoteliers and other businesses that they could charge what they wanted during the Olympics (and in doing so make it clear to the world that Weymouth was ready to fleece everybody it could) should be forced to suffer the same financial misery they have inflicted on others with their arrogance and stupidity.
We are where we are so we must make sure we try to enjoy every minute of this amazing event - it's come at a hell of a price!
What astonishes me is the apparent surprise. When Weymouth was confirmed as the venue for these games a few of us wondered what the impact would be, so we asked sailing clubs at previous venues what their experiences had been - they all said the same, no big numbers. These comments were published on the Echo forum and put face to face to certain council officials (who's smug reply "just wait and see" must be haunting them now) It's such a shame, the facilities and entertainments in place are awesome and the council should be congratulated for that, but those officials that failed to do even basic research, and especially those who were stupid enough to tell hoteliers and other businesses that they could charge what they wanted during the Olympics (and in doing so make it clear to the world that Weymouth was ready to fleece everybody it could) should be forced to suffer the same financial misery they have inflicted on others with their arrogance and stupidity. We are where we are so we must make sure we try to enjoy every minute of this amazing event - it's come at a hell of a price! Doc Watson

11:05am Wed 1 Aug 12

rjimmer says...

ianplambert 10:14am Wed 1 Aug 12.Say: "The best legacy they could have left was to 'invent' 1,000 jobs that were sustainable forever.".......That could easily been achieved if the Port of Portland had been allowed to develop to it's full potential. Only 3 deep-water ports on the Channel, Southampton, Rotterdam and Portland, but all we get is sailing and conservation! Build the Western Route to Portland from the Chickerell Link PDQ.
ianplambert 10:14am Wed 1 Aug 12.Say: "The best legacy they could have left was to 'invent' 1,000 jobs that were sustainable forever.".......That could easily been achieved if the Port of Portland had been allowed to develop to it's full potential. Only 3 deep-water ports on the Channel, Southampton, Rotterdam and Portland, but all we get is sailing and conservation! Build the Western Route to Portland from the Chickerell Link PDQ. rjimmer

11:57am Wed 1 Aug 12

annotator1 says...

It would be useful, for the Echo to print these complaints and comment, send them to the Olympic Committee in London and request that the traders, in bulk, are compensated for their mismanagement..
It would be useful, for the Echo to print these complaints and comment, send them to the Olympic Committee in London and request that the traders, in bulk, are compensated for their mismanagement.. annotator1

1:39pm Wed 1 Aug 12

cockymoor says...

I think the Hoteliers, Traders and Council need to take a good look at themselves . They where rubbing their hands with delight when they heard the Olympics were coming . How much money can we make from these unwitting punters was the cry Accomodation prices rocketed , car park and ride made expensive, pay to sit on grassy Knoll, the list is endless. Guess what? the punters stayed away, Nice one.
I think the Hoteliers, Traders and Council need to take a good look at themselves . They where rubbing their hands with delight when they heard the Olympics were coming . How much money can we make from these unwitting punters was the cry Accomodation prices rocketed , car park and ride made expensive, pay to sit on grassy Knoll, the list is endless. Guess what? the punters stayed away, Nice one. cockymoor

1:40pm Wed 1 Aug 12

cockymoor says...

I think the Hoteliers, Traders and Council need to take a good look at themselves . They where rubbing their hands with delight when they heard the Olympics were coming . How much money can we make from these unwitting punters was the cry Accomodation prices rocketed , car park and ride made expensive, pay to sit on grassy bank, the list is endless. Guess what? the punters stayed away, Nice one.
I think the Hoteliers, Traders and Council need to take a good look at themselves . They where rubbing their hands with delight when they heard the Olympics were coming . How much money can we make from these unwitting punters was the cry Accomodation prices rocketed , car park and ride made expensive, pay to sit on grassy bank, the list is endless. Guess what? the punters stayed away, Nice one. cockymoor

2:09pm Wed 1 Aug 12

JamesYoung says...

rjimmer wrote:
ianplambert 10:14am Wed 1 Aug 12.Say: "The best legacy they could have left was to 'invent' 1,000 jobs that were sustainable forever.".......That could easily been achieved if the Port of Portland had been allowed to develop to it's full potential. Only 3 deep-water ports on the Channel, Southampton, Rotterdam and Portland, but all we get is sailing and conservation! Build the Western Route to Portland from the Chickerell Link PDQ.
This is an interesting one but i wonder about its viability. Southampton is losing trade to Liverpool. Transport links from Dorset to the rest of the UK are poor, even with this link road. What you would need is an upgrade of the road to Yeovil and an upgrade of the A31 to dual carriageway. Southampton and Rotterdam are also massive in comparison to Portland but i don't know what impact economies of scale have. Conservation is a real issue though - but then, other countries build tunnels. And a year on, wildlife is encroaching on the new relief road.
[quote][p][bold]rjimmer[/bold] wrote: ianplambert 10:14am Wed 1 Aug 12.Say: "The best legacy they could have left was to 'invent' 1,000 jobs that were sustainable forever.".......That could easily been achieved if the Port of Portland had been allowed to develop to it's full potential. Only 3 deep-water ports on the Channel, Southampton, Rotterdam and Portland, but all we get is sailing and conservation! Build the Western Route to Portland from the Chickerell Link PDQ.[/p][/quote]This is an interesting one but i wonder about its viability. Southampton is losing trade to Liverpool. Transport links from Dorset to the rest of the UK are poor, even with this link road. What you would need is an upgrade of the road to Yeovil and an upgrade of the A31 to dual carriageway. Southampton and Rotterdam are also massive in comparison to Portland but i don't know what impact economies of scale have. Conservation is a real issue though - but then, other countries build tunnels. And a year on, wildlife is encroaching on the new relief road. JamesYoung

2:23pm Wed 1 Aug 12

ohec says...

rjimmer wrote:
ianplambert 10:14am Wed 1 Aug 12.Say: "The best legacy they could have left was to 'invent' 1,000 jobs that were sustainable forever.".......That could easily been achieved if the Port of Portland had been allowed to develop to it's full potential. Only 3 deep-water ports on the Channel, Southampton, Rotterdam and Portland, but all we get is sailing and conservation! Build the Western Route to Portland from the Chickerell Link PDQ.
The council should have bought Portland's dockyard when the M.O.D virtually gave it away they could have developed it and created jobs not to mention having the option of using the road through the dockyard as an alternative route to tophill but no the whole council are so short sighted they should make a block booking at Specsaver's, all they ever think about is increasing car park charges, and if Condor don't return thats more revenue lost because the council were too short sighted to invest in facilities for them. Portland could be used a lot more because of the deep water but the lack of decent roads means it will never be a major port, the only way that would ever change is if they extended the M27 to link up with the M5 and i think pigs will learn how to fly before that happens.
[quote][p][bold]rjimmer[/bold] wrote: ianplambert 10:14am Wed 1 Aug 12.Say: "The best legacy they could have left was to 'invent' 1,000 jobs that were sustainable forever.".......That could easily been achieved if the Port of Portland had been allowed to develop to it's full potential. Only 3 deep-water ports on the Channel, Southampton, Rotterdam and Portland, but all we get is sailing and conservation! Build the Western Route to Portland from the Chickerell Link PDQ.[/p][/quote]The council should have bought Portland's dockyard when the M.O.D virtually gave it away they could have developed it and created jobs not to mention having the option of using the road through the dockyard as an alternative route to tophill but no the whole council are so short sighted they should make a block booking at Specsaver's, all they ever think about is increasing car park charges, and if Condor don't return thats more revenue lost because the council were too short sighted to invest in facilities for them. Portland could be used a lot more because of the deep water but the lack of decent roads means it will never be a major port, the only way that would ever change is if they extended the M27 to link up with the M5 and i think pigs will learn how to fly before that happens. ohec

2:35pm Wed 1 Aug 12

JamesYoung says...

ohec wrote:
rjimmer wrote:
ianplambert 10:14am Wed 1 Aug 12.Say: "The best legacy they could have left was to 'invent' 1,000 jobs that were sustainable forever.".......That could easily been achieved if the Port of Portland had been allowed to develop to it's full potential. Only 3 deep-water ports on the Channel, Southampton, Rotterdam and Portland, but all we get is sailing and conservation! Build the Western Route to Portland from the Chickerell Link PDQ.
The council should have bought Portland's dockyard when the M.O.D virtually gave it away they could have developed it and created jobs not to mention having the option of using the road through the dockyard as an alternative route to tophill but no the whole council are so short sighted they should make a block booking at Specsaver's, all they ever think about is increasing car park charges, and if Condor don't return thats more revenue lost because the council were too short sighted to invest in facilities for them. Portland could be used a lot more because of the deep water but the lack of decent roads means it will never be a major port, the only way that would ever change is if they extended the M27 to link up with the M5 and i think pigs will learn how to fly before that happens.
Anecdotally, Condor will return. Poole Harbour creates too long a run in, and these machines run better at speed. It would eat into their profit margins to keep it there.
[quote][p][bold]ohec[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rjimmer[/bold] wrote: ianplambert 10:14am Wed 1 Aug 12.Say: "The best legacy they could have left was to 'invent' 1,000 jobs that were sustainable forever.".......That could easily been achieved if the Port of Portland had been allowed to develop to it's full potential. Only 3 deep-water ports on the Channel, Southampton, Rotterdam and Portland, but all we get is sailing and conservation! Build the Western Route to Portland from the Chickerell Link PDQ.[/p][/quote]The council should have bought Portland's dockyard when the M.O.D virtually gave it away they could have developed it and created jobs not to mention having the option of using the road through the dockyard as an alternative route to tophill but no the whole council are so short sighted they should make a block booking at Specsaver's, all they ever think about is increasing car park charges, and if Condor don't return thats more revenue lost because the council were too short sighted to invest in facilities for them. Portland could be used a lot more because of the deep water but the lack of decent roads means it will never be a major port, the only way that would ever change is if they extended the M27 to link up with the M5 and i think pigs will learn how to fly before that happens.[/p][/quote]Anecdotally, Condor will return. Poole Harbour creates too long a run in, and these machines run better at speed. It would eat into their profit margins to keep it there. JamesYoung

2:54pm Wed 1 Aug 12

ianplambert says...

How many businesses will go bust because of this fiasco? We are already at 30 percent above the national average, and the second highest region in the country (even london is lower!). We have more bankruptcy's pro rats of population than St Albans...... The effects of this haven't even started yet.
How many businesses will go bust because of this fiasco? We are already at 30 percent above the national average, and the second highest region in the country (even london is lower!). We have more bankruptcy's pro rats of population than St Albans...... The effects of this haven't even started yet. ianplambert

3:00pm Wed 1 Aug 12

Taxpayinglocal says...

Theres a new conspiracy going round, isnt it funny how the Condor left just months before the olympics, and how apparently the docks never got repaired when they had plenty of time to do so, im saying this because, where would all the condor traffic go once it comes off the boat with roads closed all day and car park full of that fetisval crap, was this a delibrate ploy to make the condor leave so they didnt have to worry about this condor traffic.
Theres a new conspiracy going round, isnt it funny how the Condor left just months before the olympics, and how apparently the docks never got repaired when they had plenty of time to do so, im saying this because, where would all the condor traffic go once it comes off the boat with roads closed all day and car park full of that fetisval crap, was this a delibrate ploy to make the condor leave so they didnt have to worry about this condor traffic. Taxpayinglocal

3:50pm Wed 1 Aug 12

bradley red 1 says...

Not surprised one bit by this news, come on who is actually interested in these rich boys and girls sailing around the waters anyway? traders were very gullible in deed expecting to line there pockets with all these supposed extra visitors to the region,roads closed,buses laid on,all these extra police sat up at southwell park twiddling there thumbs on holiday,complete and utter waste of taxpayers money, the council did not consider local residents one bit with this non event,sooner it is all over the better in my own humble opinion!
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Not surprised one bit by this news, come on who is actually interested in these rich boys and girls sailing around the waters anyway? traders were very gullible in deed expecting to line there pockets with all these supposed extra visitors to the region,roads closed,buses laid on,all these extra police sat up at southwell park twiddling there thumbs on holiday,complete and utter waste of taxpayers money, the council did not consider local residents one bit with this non event,sooner it is all over the better in my own humble opinion! , bradley red 1

5:01pm Wed 1 Aug 12

rjimmer says...

ohec says...2:23pm Wed 1 Aug 12."Portland could be used a lot more because of the deep water but the lack of decent roads means it will never be a major port, the only way that would ever change is if they extended the M27 to link up with the M5 "......The reason that the harbour and dockyard was sold so cheaply(£1M?) was that it's development would have been expected to fund better road links.
ohec says...2:23pm Wed 1 Aug 12."Portland could be used a lot more because of the deep water but the lack of decent roads means it will never be a major port, the only way that would ever change is if they extended the M27 to link up with the M5 "......The reason that the harbour and dockyard was sold so cheaply(£1M?) was that it's development would have been expected to fund better road links. rjimmer

7:31pm Wed 1 Aug 12

cj07589 says...

cockymoor wrote:
I think the Hoteliers, Traders and Council need to take a good look at themselves . They where rubbing their hands with delight when they heard the Olympics were coming . How much money can we make from these unwitting punters was the cry Accomodation prices rocketed , car park and ride made expensive, pay to sit on grassy Knoll, the list is endless. Guess what? the punters stayed away, Nice one.
Spot on really, it seems that greed has driven the punters away. It's disappointing really I think the ethos and principles of the games have been diluted it used to about human endeavour and participation. Silly old me, I suppose we should of expected the gullible public to foot the bill and get mugged to watch it. Gold medal to Rip off Britain I say so it's a bit of justice that the punters have wised up.
[quote][p][bold]cockymoor[/bold] wrote: I think the Hoteliers, Traders and Council need to take a good look at themselves . They where rubbing their hands with delight when they heard the Olympics were coming . How much money can we make from these unwitting punters was the cry Accomodation prices rocketed , car park and ride made expensive, pay to sit on grassy Knoll, the list is endless. Guess what? the punters stayed away, Nice one.[/p][/quote]Spot on really, it seems that greed has driven the punters away. It's disappointing really I think the ethos and principles of the games have been diluted it used to about human endeavour and participation. Silly old me, I suppose we should of expected the gullible public to foot the bill and get mugged to watch it. Gold medal to Rip off Britain I say so it's a bit of justice that the punters have wised up. cj07589

8:28pm Wed 1 Aug 12

Merrittpr says...

I don't believe it!! The stage on the live site has gone and all we are left with are 2 big screens. Why on earth is all the beach still closed and turnstiles in place. Put a few fences around the base of the screens, stick some security guards around the fences and let the public freely go up and down the beach. What a total waste to be left with nothing but 2 screens on the beach. I despair!! All this talk of people saying that Weymouth should grasp the Olympics and show the town off for the world to see..... Is this the best we can come up with....
I don't believe it!! The stage on the live site has gone and all we are left with are 2 big screens. Why on earth is all the beach still closed and turnstiles in place. Put a few fences around the base of the screens, stick some security guards around the fences and let the public freely go up and down the beach. What a total waste to be left with nothing but 2 screens on the beach. I despair!! All this talk of people saying that Weymouth should grasp the Olympics and show the town off for the world to see..... Is this the best we can come up with.... Merrittpr

9:42pm Wed 1 Aug 12

Grockler says...

Don't worry Weymuff soon be over and you have that wonderful traffic management system LOL as yr legacy
Don't worry Weymuff soon be over and you have that wonderful traffic management system LOL as yr legacy Grockler

10:47pm Wed 1 Aug 12

annotator1 says...

Taxpayinglocal wrote:
Theres a new conspiracy going round, isnt it funny how the Condor left just months before the olympics, and how apparently the docks never got repaired when they had plenty of time to do so, im saying this because, where would all the condor traffic go once it comes off the boat with roads closed all day and car park full of that fetisval crap, was this a delibrate ploy to make the condor leave so they didnt have to worry about this condor traffic.
That sums it up, in a nut shell. Why ever would a competent council allow the loss of a Nationally Used Service?
[quote][p][bold]Taxpayinglocal[/bold] wrote: Theres a new conspiracy going round, isnt it funny how the Condor left just months before the olympics, and how apparently the docks never got repaired when they had plenty of time to do so, im saying this because, where would all the condor traffic go once it comes off the boat with roads closed all day and car park full of that fetisval crap, was this a delibrate ploy to make the condor leave so they didnt have to worry about this condor traffic.[/p][/quote]That sums it up, in a nut shell. Why ever would a competent council allow the loss of a Nationally Used Service? annotator1

8:34am Thu 2 Aug 12

Black Raven says...

annotator1 wrote:
Taxpayinglocal wrote:
Theres a new conspiracy going round, isnt it funny how the Condor left just months before the olympics, and how apparently the docks never got repaired when they had plenty of time to do so, im saying this because, where would all the condor traffic go once it comes off the boat with roads closed all day and car park full of that fetisval crap, was this a delibrate ploy to make the condor leave so they didnt have to worry about this condor traffic.
That sums it up, in a nut shell. Why ever would a competent council allow the loss of a Nationally Used Service?
Well I heard a rumour that Condor had intended to run viewing trips during the Olympics, WPBC got wind of it & said no. Condor was also told it couldn't run the boat out when sailor were competing. The harbour has been dodgy for years, unpainted, unkempt, cafe closed even though there has been interested parties in running it, they've been told no. Condor coming back - I very much doubt it, they said the Navy would never leave - they did ! As for financial loss Brittany Ferries manage quite well out of Poole/Plymouth. There the councils are open minded.
[quote][p][bold]annotator1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Taxpayinglocal[/bold] wrote: Theres a new conspiracy going round, isnt it funny how the Condor left just months before the olympics, and how apparently the docks never got repaired when they had plenty of time to do so, im saying this because, where would all the condor traffic go once it comes off the boat with roads closed all day and car park full of that fetisval crap, was this a delibrate ploy to make the condor leave so they didnt have to worry about this condor traffic.[/p][/quote]That sums it up, in a nut shell. Why ever would a competent council allow the loss of a Nationally Used Service?[/p][/quote]Well I heard a rumour that Condor had intended to run viewing trips during the Olympics, WPBC got wind of it & said no. Condor was also told it couldn't run the boat out when sailor were competing. The harbour has been dodgy for years, unpainted, unkempt, cafe closed even though there has been interested parties in running it, they've been told no. Condor coming back - I very much doubt it, they said the Navy would never leave - they did ! As for financial loss Brittany Ferries manage quite well out of Poole/Plymouth. There the councils are open minded. Black Raven

8:36am Thu 2 Aug 12

Black Raven says...

Bad spelling apologies." Their council"
Bad spelling apologies." Their council" Black Raven

9:29am Thu 2 Aug 12

annotator1 says...

Sorry, but who wrote the title to this issue as "Blame games as traders claim business harmed by Olympics"?

This is NOT A GAME it is reality!
Sorry, but who wrote the title to this issue as "Blame games as traders claim business harmed by Olympics"? This is NOT A GAME it is reality! annotator1

9:45am Thu 2 Aug 12

Jello Biafra says...

I'm looking forward to the W&PBC one legged arse kicking competition!
I'm looking forward to the W&PBC one legged arse kicking competition! Jello Biafra

10:49am Thu 2 Aug 12

RobinofLocksley says...

Merrittpr wrote:
I don't believe it!! The stage on the live site has gone and all we are left with are 2 big screens. Why on earth is all the beach still closed and turnstiles in place. Put a few fences around the base of the screens, stick some security guards around the fences and let the public freely go up and down the beach. What a total waste to be left with nothing but 2 screens on the beach. I despair!! All this talk of people saying that Weymouth should grasp the Olympics and show the town off for the world to see..... Is this the best we can come up with....
That staging was for the Cultural Olympiad / Opening Ceremony show. They'd hardly continue to put on more stage shows which would compete with the already-poorly-atten
ded Bayside Festival, would they?
[quote][p][bold]Merrittpr[/bold] wrote: I don't believe it!! The stage on the live site has gone and all we are left with are 2 big screens. Why on earth is all the beach still closed and turnstiles in place. Put a few fences around the base of the screens, stick some security guards around the fences and let the public freely go up and down the beach. What a total waste to be left with nothing but 2 screens on the beach. I despair!! All this talk of people saying that Weymouth should grasp the Olympics and show the town off for the world to see..... Is this the best we can come up with....[/p][/quote]That staging was for the Cultural Olympiad / Opening Ceremony show. They'd hardly continue to put on more stage shows which would compete with the already-poorly-atten ded Bayside Festival, would they? RobinofLocksley

11:39am Thu 2 Aug 12

JamesYoung says...

Black Raven wrote:
annotator1 wrote:
Taxpayinglocal wrote:
Theres a new conspiracy going round, isnt it funny how the Condor left just months before the olympics, and how apparently the docks never got repaired when they had plenty of time to do so, im saying this because, where would all the condor traffic go once it comes off the boat with roads closed all day and car park full of that fetisval crap, was this a delibrate ploy to make the condor leave so they didnt have to worry about this condor traffic.
That sums it up, in a nut shell. Why ever would a competent council allow the loss of a Nationally Used Service?
Well I heard a rumour that Condor had intended to run viewing trips during the Olympics, WPBC got wind of it & said no. Condor was also told it couldn't run the boat out when sailor were competing. The harbour has been dodgy for years, unpainted, unkempt, cafe closed even though there has been interested parties in running it, they've been told no. Condor coming back - I very much doubt it, they said the Navy would never leave - they did ! As for financial loss Brittany Ferries manage quite well out of Poole/Plymouth. There the councils are open minded.
I don't think the costs of running that catamaran would ever be covered by viewing trips, so i seriously doubt that was ever a viable option. The point about Brittany Ferries is that they run a traditional ferry service where the faster you go the more fuel you burn. Catamarans are more efficient the faster they go, hence speed is important and the longer run into Poole eats into profits. They will be back.
[quote][p][bold]Black Raven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]annotator1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Taxpayinglocal[/bold] wrote: Theres a new conspiracy going round, isnt it funny how the Condor left just months before the olympics, and how apparently the docks never got repaired when they had plenty of time to do so, im saying this because, where would all the condor traffic go once it comes off the boat with roads closed all day and car park full of that fetisval crap, was this a delibrate ploy to make the condor leave so they didnt have to worry about this condor traffic.[/p][/quote]That sums it up, in a nut shell. Why ever would a competent council allow the loss of a Nationally Used Service?[/p][/quote]Well I heard a rumour that Condor had intended to run viewing trips during the Olympics, WPBC got wind of it & said no. Condor was also told it couldn't run the boat out when sailor were competing. The harbour has been dodgy for years, unpainted, unkempt, cafe closed even though there has been interested parties in running it, they've been told no. Condor coming back - I very much doubt it, they said the Navy would never leave - they did ! As for financial loss Brittany Ferries manage quite well out of Poole/Plymouth. There the councils are open minded.[/p][/quote]I don't think the costs of running that catamaran would ever be covered by viewing trips, so i seriously doubt that was ever a viable option. The point about Brittany Ferries is that they run a traditional ferry service where the faster you go the more fuel you burn. Catamarans are more efficient the faster they go, hence speed is important and the longer run into Poole eats into profits. They will be back. JamesYoung

12:01pm Thu 2 Aug 12

Black Raven says...

JamesYoung wrote:
Black Raven wrote:
annotator1 wrote:
Taxpayinglocal wrote:
Theres a new conspiracy going round, isnt it funny how the Condor left just months before the olympics, and how apparently the docks never got repaired when they had plenty of time to do so, im saying this because, where would all the condor traffic go once it comes off the boat with roads closed all day and car park full of that fetisval crap, was this a delibrate ploy to make the condor leave so they didnt have to worry about this condor traffic.
That sums it up, in a nut shell. Why ever would a competent council allow the loss of a Nationally Used Service?
Well I heard a rumour that Condor had intended to run viewing trips during the Olympics, WPBC got wind of it & said no. Condor was also told it couldn't run the boat out when sailor were competing. The harbour has been dodgy for years, unpainted, unkempt, cafe closed even though there has been interested parties in running it, they've been told no. Condor coming back - I very much doubt it, they said the Navy would never leave - they did ! As for financial loss Brittany Ferries manage quite well out of Poole/Plymouth. There the councils are open minded.
I don't think the costs of running that catamaran would ever be covered by viewing trips, so i seriously doubt that was ever a viable option. The point about Brittany Ferries is that they run a traditional ferry service where the faster you go the more fuel you burn. Catamarans are more efficient the faster they go, hence speed is important and the longer run into Poole eats into profits. They will be back.
As I said viewing trips were a rumour only.
Condor has been running out of Poole long before they couldn't in Weymouth, we've booked via Brittany Ferries several times over the last few years & been placed on a Condor Vessel out of Poole. Easier to get to France (no lengthy crossovers at Guernsey/Jersey) my money is on a non-return, the amount of complaints Condor has recieved over the lack of facilities & traffic access on & off the boat in Weymouth have been phenominal (Trust me I know) plus the Harbour fees in Weymouth are higher.
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Black Raven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]annotator1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Taxpayinglocal[/bold] wrote: Theres a new conspiracy going round, isnt it funny how the Condor left just months before the olympics, and how apparently the docks never got repaired when they had plenty of time to do so, im saying this because, where would all the condor traffic go once it comes off the boat with roads closed all day and car park full of that fetisval crap, was this a delibrate ploy to make the condor leave so they didnt have to worry about this condor traffic.[/p][/quote]That sums it up, in a nut shell. Why ever would a competent council allow the loss of a Nationally Used Service?[/p][/quote]Well I heard a rumour that Condor had intended to run viewing trips during the Olympics, WPBC got wind of it & said no. Condor was also told it couldn't run the boat out when sailor were competing. The harbour has been dodgy for years, unpainted, unkempt, cafe closed even though there has been interested parties in running it, they've been told no. Condor coming back - I very much doubt it, they said the Navy would never leave - they did ! As for financial loss Brittany Ferries manage quite well out of Poole/Plymouth. There the councils are open minded.[/p][/quote]I don't think the costs of running that catamaran would ever be covered by viewing trips, so i seriously doubt that was ever a viable option. The point about Brittany Ferries is that they run a traditional ferry service where the faster you go the more fuel you burn. Catamarans are more efficient the faster they go, hence speed is important and the longer run into Poole eats into profits. They will be back.[/p][/quote]As I said viewing trips were a rumour only. Condor has been running out of Poole long before they couldn't in Weymouth, we've booked via Brittany Ferries several times over the last few years & been placed on a Condor Vessel out of Poole. Easier to get to France (no lengthy crossovers at Guernsey/Jersey) my money is on a non-return, the amount of complaints Condor has recieved over the lack of facilities & traffic access on & off the boat in Weymouth have been phenominal (Trust me I know) plus the Harbour fees in Weymouth are higher. Black Raven

12:01pm Thu 2 Aug 12

Black Raven says...

http://www.brittany-
ferries.co.uk/fleet/
high-speed
http://www.brittany- ferries.co.uk/fleet/ high-speed Black Raven

12:40pm Thu 2 Aug 12

PR Chap says...

Just as a bit of background… I have handled the PR & Publicity for many large scale tourist events in Dorset, some attracting up to 60,000 people to a single event.

I have also created the publicity for musical events, leading to sell-out performances.

Whilst the result of the Bay Festival is unfortunate, I would ask the question that bearing in mind I live not more than 40 minutes from Weymouth – why did I not even hear about this festival?

The overriding PR message emanating from Weymouth pre ‘The Games’ has been that exclusive corporate sponsorship has clearly attempted to prevent local businesses from profiting from ‘The Games’ and that both locals and tourists would have to pay through the nose in order to even see an Olympic competitor.

This leads to cynicism in the minds of the public.

Whilst areas may be available to view ‘The Games’ for free, it has not been in the organisers’ interests to promote these, and I would guess they are therefore largely unknown outside the local community.

With ‘The Games’ now viewed simply as an exclusive franchise by many, exclusivity by its very nature… excludes, and therefore perhaps we should not be so surprised at the result.

To my mind, the combination of perceived overcharging (for a park and ride for example), combined with the message that tourists should not visit due to congestion and lack of parking is a ‘perfect storm’ of PR mismanagement.

It would seem to me that the last time Weymouth had such a PR issue, it was down to The Plague, which of course is a great pity since Weymouth has much to offer.

I look forward to visiting again myself when it is possible to park, take in the atmosphere and enjoy a reasonably inexpensive day out with the family.
Just as a bit of background… I have handled the PR & Publicity for many large scale tourist events in Dorset, some attracting up to 60,000 people to a single event. I have also created the publicity for musical events, leading to sell-out performances. Whilst the result of the Bay Festival is unfortunate, I would ask the question that bearing in mind I live not more than 40 minutes from Weymouth – why did I not even hear about this festival? The overriding PR message emanating from Weymouth pre ‘The Games’ has been that exclusive corporate sponsorship has clearly attempted to prevent local businesses from profiting from ‘The Games’ and that both locals and tourists would have to pay through the nose in order to even see an Olympic competitor. This leads to cynicism in the minds of the public. Whilst areas may be available to view ‘The Games’ for free, it has not been in the organisers’ interests to promote these, and I would guess they are therefore largely unknown outside the local community. With ‘The Games’ now viewed simply as an exclusive franchise by many, exclusivity by its very nature… excludes, and therefore perhaps we should not be so surprised at the result. To my mind, the combination of perceived overcharging (for a park and ride for example), combined with the message that tourists should not visit due to congestion and lack of parking is a ‘perfect storm’ of PR mismanagement. It would seem to me that the last time Weymouth had such a PR issue, it was down to The Plague, which of course is a great pity since Weymouth has much to offer. I look forward to visiting again myself when it is possible to park, take in the atmosphere and enjoy a reasonably inexpensive day out with the family. PR Chap

12:45pm Thu 2 Aug 12

MaidofDorset says...

Black Raven wrote:
"Weymouth needs to return to its roots as a quaint little seaside town and get rid of the drunks and tramps and make it a real old fashioned family holiday town again".
Hear Hear !!
I think you have a point. The town has a very pleasant ambiance at the moment.

Perhaps we could retain a few ambassadors to guide the visitors around, they are probably much more useful on the streets than a hidden Tourist Information Office.

We could even run a free or low cost bus along the front and round by the harbour so visitors could get around more easily.Happy tourist in my experience linger and spend money.

The Radio ! road show used to be very successful on the beach (we should have something for the youngsters). Is it a case of getting the right entertainment at the right price?
[quote][p][bold]Black Raven[/bold] wrote: "Weymouth needs to return to its roots as a quaint little seaside town and get rid of the drunks and tramps and make it a real old fashioned family holiday town again". Hear Hear !![/p][/quote]I think you have a point. The town has a very pleasant ambiance at the moment. Perhaps we could retain a few ambassadors to guide the visitors around, they are probably much more useful on the streets than a hidden Tourist Information Office. We could even run a free or low cost bus along the front and round by the harbour so visitors could get around more easily.Happy tourist in my experience linger and spend money. The Radio ! road show used to be very successful on the beach (we should have something for the youngsters). Is it a case of getting the right entertainment at the right price? MaidofDorset

1:29pm Thu 2 Aug 12

Nan 60 says...

Well - we've certainly got community spirit over this, anyway - even if it is mostly negative. Yes, people have been put off coming during the Olympics - by the transport organisation; by some ridiculous hotel prices; and - by Weymouth's unrelenting whinging! For God's sake! We have the most wonderful town and Island in the World - and now the Greatest Show on Earth has come to Weymouth and Portland! Stop whinging Weymouth and take a lesson from our Olympians - if an Olympian falls during a race, they don't just stand there and look around for someone to blame THEY GET UP AS FAST AS THEY CAN AND RUN FASTER THAN EVER TO TRY AND WIN THE RACE! That's what we have to do now. Tell everyone how wonderful Weymouth and Portland are! Smile and WELCOME our visitors! If we are not overrun we have a golden opportunity to give them the holiday of a lifetime and the welcome and service they deserve. Welcome the World to our wonderful Town!”
Well - we've certainly got community spirit over this, anyway - even if it is mostly negative. Yes, people have been put off coming during the Olympics - by the transport organisation; by some ridiculous hotel prices; and - by Weymouth's unrelenting whinging! For God's sake! We have the most wonderful town and Island in the World - and now the Greatest Show on Earth has come to Weymouth and Portland! Stop whinging Weymouth and take a lesson from our Olympians - if an Olympian falls during a race, they don't just stand there and look around for someone to blame THEY GET UP AS FAST AS THEY CAN AND RUN FASTER THAN EVER TO TRY AND WIN THE RACE! That's what we have to do now. Tell everyone how wonderful Weymouth and Portland are! Smile and WELCOME our visitors! If we are not overrun we have a golden opportunity to give them the holiday of a lifetime and the welcome and service they deserve. Welcome the World to our wonderful Town! Imaginebooks
Quote
I will have a pint of what he is drinking!
Well - we've certainly got community spirit over this, anyway - even if it is mostly negative. Yes, people have been put off coming during the Olympics - by the transport organisation; by some ridiculous hotel prices; and - by Weymouth's unrelenting whinging! For God's sake! We have the most wonderful town and Island in the World - and now the Greatest Show on Earth has come to Weymouth and Portland! Stop whinging Weymouth and take a lesson from our Olympians - if an Olympian falls during a race, they don't just stand there and look around for someone to blame THEY GET UP AS FAST AS THEY CAN AND RUN FASTER THAN EVER TO TRY AND WIN THE RACE! That's what we have to do now. Tell everyone how wonderful Weymouth and Portland are! Smile and WELCOME our visitors! If we are not overrun we have a golden opportunity to give them the holiday of a lifetime and the welcome and service they deserve. Welcome the World to our wonderful Town!” Well - we've certainly got community spirit over this, anyway - even if it is mostly negative. Yes, people have been put off coming during the Olympics - by the transport organisation; by some ridiculous hotel prices; and - by Weymouth's unrelenting whinging! For God's sake! We have the most wonderful town and Island in the World - and now the Greatest Show on Earth has come to Weymouth and Portland! Stop whinging Weymouth and take a lesson from our Olympians - if an Olympian falls during a race, they don't just stand there and look around for someone to blame THEY GET UP AS FAST AS THEY CAN AND RUN FASTER THAN EVER TO TRY AND WIN THE RACE! That's what we have to do now. Tell everyone how wonderful Weymouth and Portland are! Smile and WELCOME our visitors! If we are not overrun we have a golden opportunity to give them the holiday of a lifetime and the welcome and service they deserve. Welcome the World to our wonderful Town! Imaginebooks Quote I will have a pint of what he is drinking! Nan 60

1:29pm Thu 2 Aug 12

Nan 60 says...

Well - we've certainly got community spirit over this, anyway - even if it is mostly negative. Yes, people have been put off coming during the Olympics - by the transport organisation; by some ridiculous hotel prices; and - by Weymouth's unrelenting whinging! For God's sake! We have the most wonderful town and Island in the World - and now the Greatest Show on Earth has come to Weymouth and Portland! Stop whinging Weymouth and take a lesson from our Olympians - if an Olympian falls during a race, they don't just stand there and look around for someone to blame THEY GET UP AS FAST AS THEY CAN AND RUN FASTER THAN EVER TO TRY AND WIN THE RACE! That's what we have to do now. Tell everyone how wonderful Weymouth and Portland are! Smile and WELCOME our visitors! If we are not overrun we have a golden opportunity to give them the holiday of a lifetime and the welcome and service they deserve. Welcome the World to our wonderful Town!”
Well - we've certainly got community spirit over this, anyway - even if it is mostly negative. Yes, people have been put off coming during the Olympics - by the transport organisation; by some ridiculous hotel prices; and - by Weymouth's unrelenting whinging! For God's sake! We have the most wonderful town and Island in the World - and now the Greatest Show on Earth has come to Weymouth and Portland! Stop whinging Weymouth and take a lesson from our Olympians - if an Olympian falls during a race, they don't just stand there and look around for someone to blame THEY GET UP AS FAST AS THEY CAN AND RUN FASTER THAN EVER TO TRY AND WIN THE RACE! That's what we have to do now. Tell everyone how wonderful Weymouth and Portland are! Smile and WELCOME our visitors! If we are not overrun we have a golden opportunity to give them the holiday of a lifetime and the welcome and service they deserve. Welcome the World to our wonderful Town! Imaginebooks
Quote
I will have a pint of what he is drinking!
Well - we've certainly got community spirit over this, anyway - even if it is mostly negative. Yes, people have been put off coming during the Olympics - by the transport organisation; by some ridiculous hotel prices; and - by Weymouth's unrelenting whinging! For God's sake! We have the most wonderful town and Island in the World - and now the Greatest Show on Earth has come to Weymouth and Portland! Stop whinging Weymouth and take a lesson from our Olympians - if an Olympian falls during a race, they don't just stand there and look around for someone to blame THEY GET UP AS FAST AS THEY CAN AND RUN FASTER THAN EVER TO TRY AND WIN THE RACE! That's what we have to do now. Tell everyone how wonderful Weymouth and Portland are! Smile and WELCOME our visitors! If we are not overrun we have a golden opportunity to give them the holiday of a lifetime and the welcome and service they deserve. Welcome the World to our wonderful Town!” Well - we've certainly got community spirit over this, anyway - even if it is mostly negative. Yes, people have been put off coming during the Olympics - by the transport organisation; by some ridiculous hotel prices; and - by Weymouth's unrelenting whinging! For God's sake! We have the most wonderful town and Island in the World - and now the Greatest Show on Earth has come to Weymouth and Portland! Stop whinging Weymouth and take a lesson from our Olympians - if an Olympian falls during a race, they don't just stand there and look around for someone to blame THEY GET UP AS FAST AS THEY CAN AND RUN FASTER THAN EVER TO TRY AND WIN THE RACE! That's what we have to do now. Tell everyone how wonderful Weymouth and Portland are! Smile and WELCOME our visitors! If we are not overrun we have a golden opportunity to give them the holiday of a lifetime and the welcome and service they deserve. Welcome the World to our wonderful Town! Imaginebooks Quote I will have a pint of what he is drinking! Nan 60

3:39pm Thu 2 Aug 12

Laughing gnome says...

BLIMEY !
BLIMEY ! Laughing gnome

4:29pm Thu 2 Aug 12

iampuzzled says...

I have seen examples where the nut on the keyboard is a bit loose and a key gets pressed twice but this is the first time where a whole paragraph is repeated and then posted twice.
four bites at the cherry??
I have seen examples where the nut on the keyboard is a bit loose and a key gets pressed twice but this is the first time where a whole paragraph is repeated and then posted twice. four bites at the cherry?? iampuzzled

4:40pm Thu 2 Aug 12

PoetPeter says...

I don't think that what is going on here is whinging. It's local people rightly concerned at the appalling, irresponsible and incompetent management of our town, the Olympics event and everything around it.

It's not as if many of us weren't warning about these consequences years ago. The local councillors and executives at DCC/WPBC have been blinded by the glory they saw coming their way.

If one of our athletes had failed to train, follow the advice of his/her coach, eat sensibly and then got disqualified for a false start, we wouldn't call it whinging, we'd say they got what was inevitably coming to them and that is what has happened with the idiots who have mismanaged this opportunity.

There have to be severe consequences for this failure. That is the only way that democracy can work. The failure goes very, very deep though. The mistakes are inexcusable and could have been avoided.

We need a public inquiry and I'd be very surprised if there wasn't a case for some criminal prosecutions.
I don't think that what is going on here is whinging. It's local people rightly concerned at the appalling, irresponsible and incompetent management of our town, the Olympics event and everything around it. It's not as if many of us weren't warning about these consequences years ago. The local councillors and executives at DCC/WPBC have been blinded by the glory they saw coming their way. If one of our athletes had failed to train, follow the advice of his/her coach, eat sensibly and then got disqualified for a false start, we wouldn't call it whinging, we'd say they got what was inevitably coming to them and that is what has happened with the idiots who have mismanaged this opportunity. There have to be severe consequences for this failure. That is the only way that democracy can work. The failure goes very, very deep though. The mistakes are inexcusable and could have been avoided. We need a public inquiry and I'd be very surprised if there wasn't a case for some criminal prosecutions. PoetPeter

5:08pm Thu 2 Aug 12

Merrittpr says...

RobinofLocksley wrote:
Merrittpr wrote:
I don't believe it!! The stage on the live site has gone and all we are left with are 2 big screens. Why on earth is all the beach still closed and turnstiles in place. Put a few fences around the base of the screens, stick some security guards around the fences and let the public freely go up and down the beach. What a total waste to be left with nothing but 2 screens on the beach. I despair!! All this talk of people saying that Weymouth should grasp the Olympics and show the town off for the world to see..... Is this the best we can come up with....
That staging was for the Cultural Olympiad / Opening Ceremony show. They'd hardly continue to put on more stage shows which would compete with the already-poorly-atten

ded Bayside Festival, would they?
The point of my post, and previous ones on the subject, refer to the live site being now only 2 screens when entertainment could have been layed on to make the site worth visiting. Having the Bayside festival off the beach has naturally been a disaster as its just split the crowd, plus the original costings were too high. Last years week long festival on the beach was great, it should have been organised in a similar fashion. That would be my point.
[quote][p][bold]RobinofLocksley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Merrittpr[/bold] wrote: I don't believe it!! The stage on the live site has gone and all we are left with are 2 big screens. Why on earth is all the beach still closed and turnstiles in place. Put a few fences around the base of the screens, stick some security guards around the fences and let the public freely go up and down the beach. What a total waste to be left with nothing but 2 screens on the beach. I despair!! All this talk of people saying that Weymouth should grasp the Olympics and show the town off for the world to see..... Is this the best we can come up with....[/p][/quote]That staging was for the Cultural Olympiad / Opening Ceremony show. They'd hardly continue to put on more stage shows which would compete with the already-poorly-atten ded Bayside Festival, would they?[/p][/quote]The point of my post, and previous ones on the subject, refer to the live site being now only 2 screens when entertainment could have been layed on to make the site worth visiting. Having the Bayside festival off the beach has naturally been a disaster as its just split the crowd, plus the original costings were too high. Last years week long festival on the beach was great, it should have been organised in a similar fashion. That would be my point. Merrittpr

7:22pm Thu 2 Aug 12

Peter Gunn says...

Taxpayinglocal wrote:
Theres a new conspiracy going round, isnt it funny how the Condor left just months before the olympics, and how apparently the docks never got repaired when they had plenty of time to do so, im saying this because, where would all the condor traffic go once it comes off the boat with roads closed all day and car park full of that fetisval crap, was this a delibrate ploy to make the condor leave so they didnt have to worry about this condor traffic.
I did wonder how long it would take for someone to 'wake up and smell the coffee'!
[quote][p][bold]Taxpayinglocal[/bold] wrote: Theres a new conspiracy going round, isnt it funny how the Condor left just months before the olympics, and how apparently the docks never got repaired when they had plenty of time to do so, im saying this because, where would all the condor traffic go once it comes off the boat with roads closed all day and car park full of that fetisval crap, was this a delibrate ploy to make the condor leave so they didnt have to worry about this condor traffic.[/p][/quote]I did wonder how long it would take for someone to 'wake up and smell the coffee'! Peter Gunn

11:57pm Thu 2 Aug 12

lancashire grockle says...

I have been visiting Weymouth pretty much annually since I was born, now in my 40s I bring my own little lad who looks forward to going, especially the fishing off the stone pier, crabbing and the walk around Nothe (the dinosaur walk as he calls it). Not this year. The reason was simple - I made other plans as when I came to book the prices for two weeks in a holiday let had not doubled or even trebled- they had quadroupled because of greed. Some will call it the Olympics but it's pretty much the same thing. Prices may have dropped again now there are so many unlet, but that's too late. The owners of rental properties, and I appreciate there won't be many local ones, have whizzed on their chips as I simply some a different pier to fish off and harbour to stick a crab line in to. Will we come back? I don't know yet, but there's a sour taste left, especially when one has checked that the first prices quoted were correct and told that 20 odd years loyal custom didn't count for much as demand would be very high, to be then emailed with a special offer of only double the normal price about three weeks ago. It's actually quite nice in a way to read that generally our holiday money is very welcome in the town and makes a return a bit more likely ;-). I do wonder how many there are like me though. And I do miss my annual trip to Floods, the Kings Arms and the Royal Oak...
I have been visiting Weymouth pretty much annually since I was born, now in my 40s I bring my own little lad who looks forward to going, especially the fishing off the stone pier, crabbing and the walk around Nothe (the dinosaur walk as he calls it). Not this year. The reason was simple - I made other plans as when I came to book the prices for two weeks in a holiday let had not doubled or even trebled- they had quadroupled because of greed. Some will call it the Olympics but it's pretty much the same thing. Prices may have dropped again now there are so many unlet, but that's too late. The owners of rental properties, and I appreciate there won't be many local ones, have whizzed on their chips as I simply some a different pier to fish off and harbour to stick a crab line in to. Will we come back? I don't know yet, but there's a sour taste left, especially when one has checked that the first prices quoted were correct and told that 20 odd years loyal custom didn't count for much as demand would be very high, to be then emailed with a special offer of only double the normal price about three weeks ago. It's actually quite nice in a way to read that generally our holiday money is very welcome in the town and makes a return a bit more likely ;-). I do wonder how many there are like me though. And I do miss my annual trip to Floods, the Kings Arms and the Royal Oak... lancashire grockle

3:52am Fri 3 Aug 12

Rocky Wade says...

bobby1966 wrote:
izzyarch wrote:
Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.
and your the perfect person then mate your to quick to judge what the hell has smoking and being overweight got to do with all this . it doesnt matter what these people look like or what they like to do they have money in their pockets which they spend to help improve weymouth via the councils facilities. i smoke and am overweight and live in weymouth ,yet i work 70 hours a week to support my wife and 2 kids and take no income or handouts from the government i also pay a hefty poll tax bill and all my taxes and help out in the community in my spare time ,so am i a drain on your wonderful little narrow minded brain.your prob unemployed and its people like me paying for your upkeep to live in this beautiful town ,either that or your a posh wannabe that still lives in a society of class where anything below you is considered evil and not worthy .
Just a note from down under. When I went to school at All Saints back in the 60's the personal signature for myself was " I ", always a capital letter. Reading recent posts to the Echo, it now appears, in many cases ( to be a lower case) "i". When did the rules change? Wish I'd known back then, I might have past English.
All the best cobbers, see yous ron. (col. for Later on)
[quote][p][bold]bobby1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]izzyarch[/bold] wrote: Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.[/p][/quote]and your the perfect person then mate your to quick to judge what the hell has smoking and being overweight got to do with all this . it doesnt matter what these people look like or what they like to do they have money in their pockets which they spend to help improve weymouth via the councils facilities. i smoke and am overweight and live in weymouth ,yet i work 70 hours a week to support my wife and 2 kids and take no income or handouts from the government i also pay a hefty poll tax bill and all my taxes and help out in the community in my spare time ,so am i a drain on your wonderful little narrow minded brain.your prob unemployed and its people like me paying for your upkeep to live in this beautiful town ,either that or your a posh wannabe that still lives in a society of class where anything below you is considered evil and not worthy .[/p][/quote]Just a note from down under. When I went to school at All Saints back in the 60's the personal signature for myself was " I ", always a capital letter. Reading recent posts to the Echo, it now appears, in many cases ( to be a lower case) "i". When did the rules change? Wish I'd known back then, I might have past English. All the best cobbers, see yous ron. (col. for Later on) Rocky Wade

6:34am Fri 3 Aug 12

Merrittpr says...

Rocky Wade wrote:
bobby1966 wrote:
izzyarch wrote:
Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.
and your the perfect person then mate your to quick to judge what the hell has smoking and being overweight got to do with all this . it doesnt matter what these people look like or what they like to do they have money in their pockets which they spend to help improve weymouth via the councils facilities. i smoke and am overweight and live in weymouth ,yet i work 70 hours a week to support my wife and 2 kids and take no income or handouts from the government i also pay a hefty poll tax bill and all my taxes and help out in the community in my spare time ,so am i a drain on your wonderful little narrow minded brain.your prob unemployed and its people like me paying for your upkeep to live in this beautiful town ,either that or your a posh wannabe that still lives in a society of class where anything below you is considered evil and not worthy .
Just a note from down under. When I went to school at All Saints back in the 60's the personal signature for myself was " I ", always a capital letter. Reading recent posts to the Echo, it now appears, in many cases ( to be a lower case) "i". When did the rules change? Wish I'd known back then, I might have past English.
All the best cobbers, see yous ron. (col. for Later on)
I think you mean passed English....
[quote][p][bold]Rocky Wade[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobby1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]izzyarch[/bold] wrote: Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.[/p][/quote]and your the perfect person then mate your to quick to judge what the hell has smoking and being overweight got to do with all this . it doesnt matter what these people look like or what they like to do they have money in their pockets which they spend to help improve weymouth via the councils facilities. i smoke and am overweight and live in weymouth ,yet i work 70 hours a week to support my wife and 2 kids and take no income or handouts from the government i also pay a hefty poll tax bill and all my taxes and help out in the community in my spare time ,so am i a drain on your wonderful little narrow minded brain.your prob unemployed and its people like me paying for your upkeep to live in this beautiful town ,either that or your a posh wannabe that still lives in a society of class where anything below you is considered evil and not worthy .[/p][/quote]Just a note from down under. When I went to school at All Saints back in the 60's the personal signature for myself was " I ", always a capital letter. Reading recent posts to the Echo, it now appears, in many cases ( to be a lower case) "i". When did the rules change? Wish I'd known back then, I might have past English. All the best cobbers, see yous ron. (col. for Later on)[/p][/quote]I think you mean passed English.... Merrittpr

8:18am Fri 3 Aug 12

cj07589 says...

Rocky Wade wrote:
bobby1966 wrote:
izzyarch wrote:
Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.
and your the perfect person then mate your to quick to judge what the hell has smoking and being overweight got to do with all this . it doesnt matter what these people look like or what they like to do they have money in their pockets which they spend to help improve weymouth via the councils facilities. i smoke and am overweight and live in weymouth ,yet i work 70 hours a week to support my wife and 2 kids and take no income or handouts from the government i also pay a hefty poll tax bill and all my taxes and help out in the community in my spare time ,so am i a drain on your wonderful little narrow minded brain.your prob unemployed and its people like me paying for your upkeep to live in this beautiful town ,either that or your a posh wannabe that still lives in a society of class where anything below you is considered evil and not worthy .
Just a note from down under. When I went to school at All Saints back in the 60's the personal signature for myself was " I ", always a capital letter. Reading recent posts to the Echo, it now appears, in many cases ( to be a lower case) "i". When did the rules change? Wish I'd known back then, I might have past English.
All the best cobbers, see yous ron. (col. for Later on)
Did you have an I-phone back in the 60's? I suspect not therefore could I suggest you ask your grand child why the auto text function seems to always use the lower case and doesn't punctuate correctly either. It's a combination of modern technology and lazy users not proof reader their posts before pressing send. By the way, I agree in the point that education standards have dropped a long way, in my experience half the kids I have contact with speak like some yarddy London gangsta aka (I'm a hard man with little education) its no wonder why we cant even organise the Olympics or procure equippement for our soldiers properly. In fact I'd go so far as to say the Australians would have a better control of the English language compared to the majority who live on this increasingly over crowded island.
[quote][p][bold]Rocky Wade[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobby1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]izzyarch[/bold] wrote: Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.[/p][/quote]and your the perfect person then mate your to quick to judge what the hell has smoking and being overweight got to do with all this . it doesnt matter what these people look like or what they like to do they have money in their pockets which they spend to help improve weymouth via the councils facilities. i smoke and am overweight and live in weymouth ,yet i work 70 hours a week to support my wife and 2 kids and take no income or handouts from the government i also pay a hefty poll tax bill and all my taxes and help out in the community in my spare time ,so am i a drain on your wonderful little narrow minded brain.your prob unemployed and its people like me paying for your upkeep to live in this beautiful town ,either that or your a posh wannabe that still lives in a society of class where anything below you is considered evil and not worthy .[/p][/quote]Just a note from down under. When I went to school at All Saints back in the 60's the personal signature for myself was " I ", always a capital letter. Reading recent posts to the Echo, it now appears, in many cases ( to be a lower case) "i". When did the rules change? Wish I'd known back then, I might have past English. All the best cobbers, see yous ron. (col. for Later on)[/p][/quote]Did you have an I-phone back in the 60's? I suspect not therefore could I suggest you ask your grand child why the auto text function seems to always use the lower case and doesn't punctuate correctly either. It's a combination of modern technology and lazy users not proof reader their posts before pressing send. By the way, I agree in the point that education standards have dropped a long way, in my experience half the kids I have contact with speak like some yarddy London gangsta aka (I'm a hard man with little education) its no wonder why we cant even organise the Olympics or procure equippement for our soldiers properly. In fact I'd go so far as to say the Australians would have a better control of the English language compared to the majority who live on this increasingly over crowded island. cj07589

8:44am Fri 3 Aug 12

Jello Biafra says...

I ain't playa hatin' on da lingo, jus want 2 check yo lingo. Nah mean? Like, got to help a brotha out when that foo be hittin up yo house, so when the brotha nee help, u need come help this foo out? Nah mean?
I ain't playa hatin' on da lingo, jus want 2 check yo lingo. Nah mean? Like, got to help a brotha out when that foo be hittin up yo house, so when the brotha nee help, u need come help this foo out? Nah mean? Jello Biafra

10:17am Fri 3 Aug 12

maximan says...

Rocky Wade wrote:
bobby1966 wrote:
izzyarch wrote:
Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.
and your the perfect person then mate your to quick to judge what the hell has smoking and being overweight got to do with all this . it doesnt matter what these people look like or what they like to do they have money in their pockets which they spend to help improve weymouth via the councils facilities. i smoke and am overweight and live in weymouth ,yet i work 70 hours a week to support my wife and 2 kids and take no income or handouts from the government i also pay a hefty poll tax bill and all my taxes and help out in the community in my spare time ,so am i a drain on your wonderful little narrow minded brain.your prob unemployed and its people like me paying for your upkeep to live in this beautiful town ,either that or your a posh wannabe that still lives in a society of class where anything below you is considered evil and not worthy .
Just a note from down under. When I went to school at All Saints back in the 60's the personal signature for myself was " I ", always a capital letter. Reading recent posts to the Echo, it now appears, in many cases ( to be a lower case) "i". When did the rules change? Wish I'd known back then, I might have past English.
All the best cobbers, see yous ron. (col. for Later on)
When I was a lad, I might have gotten a clip around the head if I put my elbows on the dinner table. Luckily over the years we came to realise that things like certain table manners were not very important in relationship to (say) being a nice person. Society therefore chose to emphasise more important things. I guess this change of attitude would also apply to grammar. The content of the article being of more importance than the structure.
[quote][p][bold]Rocky Wade[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobby1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]izzyarch[/bold] wrote: Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.[/p][/quote]and your the perfect person then mate your to quick to judge what the hell has smoking and being overweight got to do with all this . it doesnt matter what these people look like or what they like to do they have money in their pockets which they spend to help improve weymouth via the councils facilities. i smoke and am overweight and live in weymouth ,yet i work 70 hours a week to support my wife and 2 kids and take no income or handouts from the government i also pay a hefty poll tax bill and all my taxes and help out in the community in my spare time ,so am i a drain on your wonderful little narrow minded brain.your prob unemployed and its people like me paying for your upkeep to live in this beautiful town ,either that or your a posh wannabe that still lives in a society of class where anything below you is considered evil and not worthy .[/p][/quote]Just a note from down under. When I went to school at All Saints back in the 60's the personal signature for myself was " I ", always a capital letter. Reading recent posts to the Echo, it now appears, in many cases ( to be a lower case) "i". When did the rules change? Wish I'd known back then, I might have past English. All the best cobbers, see yous ron. (col. for Later on)[/p][/quote]When I was a lad, I might have gotten a clip around the head if I put my elbows on the dinner table. Luckily over the years we came to realise that things like certain table manners were not very important in relationship to (say) being a nice person. Society therefore chose to emphasise more important things. I guess this change of attitude would also apply to grammar. The content of the article being of more importance than the structure. maximan

10:39am Fri 3 Aug 12

-Wingl- says...

It's nice that people can enjoy themselves every once in a while. However, all good things come to and end. Realistic sustainability is the key. Unfortunately, some people who are in the right place at the wrong time, capalitise. I fear that when the 'show' has moved on, most of us will be paying for it in more ways than cash alone. Spin, spin and spin. Accountability?
It's nice that people can enjoy themselves every once in a while. However, all good things come to and end. Realistic sustainability is the key. Unfortunately, some people who are in the right place at the wrong time, capalitise. I fear that when the 'show' has moved on, most of us will be paying for it in more ways than cash alone. Spin, spin and spin. Accountability? -Wingl-

11:07am Fri 3 Aug 12

portlandboy says...

I don't think things are going quite as well as the council and Olympic big-wigs would like us to believe:
http://www.wessexfm.
com/news/dorset-news
/734026/breaking-new
s---bayside-festival
-packs-up/
I don't think things are going quite as well as the council and Olympic big-wigs would like us to believe: http://www.wessexfm. com/news/dorset-news /734026/breaking-new s---bayside-festival -packs-up/ portlandboy

11:23am Fri 3 Aug 12

RobinofLocksley says...

Jello Biafra wrote:
I ain't playa hatin' on da lingo, jus want 2 check yo lingo. Nah mean? Like, got to help a brotha out when that foo be hittin up yo house, so when the brotha nee help, u need come help this foo out? Nah mean?
No.
[quote][p][bold]Jello Biafra[/bold] wrote: I ain't playa hatin' on da lingo, jus want 2 check yo lingo. Nah mean? Like, got to help a brotha out when that foo be hittin up yo house, so when the brotha nee help, u need come help this foo out? Nah mean?[/p][/quote]No. RobinofLocksley

11:35am Fri 3 Aug 12

portlandboy says...

If you haven't seen this yet, please take a look. Whatever your thoughts on it all, this is very clever:
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=anlV2nj_W
8Q&feature=share
If you haven't seen this yet, please take a look. Whatever your thoughts on it all, this is very clever: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=anlV2nj_W 8Q&feature=share portlandboy

5:24pm Fri 3 Aug 12

cj07589 says...

maximan wrote:
Rocky Wade wrote:
bobby1966 wrote:
izzyarch wrote:
Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.
and your the perfect person then mate your to quick to judge what the hell has smoking and being overweight got to do with all this . it doesnt matter what these people look like or what they like to do they have money in their pockets which they spend to help improve weymouth via the councils facilities. i smoke and am overweight and live in weymouth ,yet i work 70 hours a week to support my wife and 2 kids and take no income or handouts from the government i also pay a hefty poll tax bill and all my taxes and help out in the community in my spare time ,so am i a drain on your wonderful little narrow minded brain.your prob unemployed and its people like me paying for your upkeep to live in this beautiful town ,either that or your a posh wannabe that still lives in a society of class where anything below you is considered evil and not worthy .
Just a note from down under. When I went to school at All Saints back in the 60's the personal signature for myself was " I ", always a capital letter. Reading recent posts to the Echo, it now appears, in many cases ( to be a lower case) "i". When did the rules change? Wish I'd known back then, I might have past English.
All the best cobbers, see yous ron. (col. for Later on)
When I was a lad, I might have gotten a clip around the head if I put my elbows on the dinner table. Luckily over the years we came to realise that things like certain table manners were not very important in relationship to (say) being a nice person. Society therefore chose to emphasise more important things. I guess this change of attitude would also apply to grammar. The content of the article being of more importance than the structure.
I think content and structure are equally as important, otherwise the message or point being communicated can be misinterpreted or lost in translation.
[quote][p][bold]maximan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocky Wade[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobby1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]izzyarch[/bold] wrote: Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.[/p][/quote]and your the perfect person then mate your to quick to judge what the hell has smoking and being overweight got to do with all this . it doesnt matter what these people look like or what they like to do they have money in their pockets which they spend to help improve weymouth via the councils facilities. i smoke and am overweight and live in weymouth ,yet i work 70 hours a week to support my wife and 2 kids and take no income or handouts from the government i also pay a hefty poll tax bill and all my taxes and help out in the community in my spare time ,so am i a drain on your wonderful little narrow minded brain.your prob unemployed and its people like me paying for your upkeep to live in this beautiful town ,either that or your a posh wannabe that still lives in a society of class where anything below you is considered evil and not worthy .[/p][/quote]Just a note from down under. When I went to school at All Saints back in the 60's the personal signature for myself was " I ", always a capital letter. Reading recent posts to the Echo, it now appears, in many cases ( to be a lower case) "i". When did the rules change? Wish I'd known back then, I might have past English. All the best cobbers, see yous ron. (col. for Later on)[/p][/quote]When I was a lad, I might have gotten a clip around the head if I put my elbows on the dinner table. Luckily over the years we came to realise that things like certain table manners were not very important in relationship to (say) being a nice person. Society therefore chose to emphasise more important things. I guess this change of attitude would also apply to grammar. The content of the article being of more importance than the structure.[/p][/quote]I think content and structure are equally as important, otherwise the message or point being communicated can be misinterpreted or lost in translation. cj07589

6:37pm Fri 3 Aug 12

thornton34ukuk says...

This is from a friend who has hit it on the head hope u don't mine me posting it

So the Dorset Evening Echo is joining forces with olympic organisers to spread the word that down here in Weymouth and Portland is the place to be?! Funny that because the Echo have done nothing but produce negative headlines from the start! The Echo is a disgrace and no wonder people aren't coming down because potential visitors are googling olympic sailing and finding your shambolic headlines! You should be encouraging people, not scaring them off! As for certain hoteliers who are struggling.....well maybe you shouldn't have been so greedy by putting prices up by double in some cases and waiting for your big corporate bookings which blatantly wasn't going to materialise! Also the signs in other counties saying "long delays etc" was ridiculous! Why put them up when we had a new road to deal with the supposed influx of holiday makers! Get down to Weymouth if you can and forget about the negative comments coming from some locals! There's plenty to do!
This is from a friend who has hit it on the head hope u don't mine me posting it So the Dorset Evening Echo is joining forces with olympic organisers to spread the word that down here in Weymouth and Portland is the place to be?! Funny that because the Echo have done nothing but produce negative headlines from the start! The Echo is a disgrace and no wonder people aren't coming down because potential visitors are googling olympic sailing and finding your shambolic headlines! You should be encouraging people, not scaring them off! As for certain hoteliers who are struggling.....well maybe you shouldn't have been so greedy by putting prices up by double in some cases and waiting for your big corporate bookings which blatantly wasn't going to materialise! Also the signs in other counties saying "long delays etc" was ridiculous! Why put them up when we had a new road to deal with the supposed influx of holiday makers! Get down to Weymouth if you can and forget about the negative comments coming from some locals! There's plenty to do! thornton34ukuk

6:55pm Fri 3 Aug 12

iampuzzled says...

portlandboy
I thought it was great
portlandboy I thought it was great iampuzzled

9:58pm Fri 3 Aug 12

maximan says...

cj07589 wrote:
maximan wrote:
Rocky Wade wrote:
bobby1966 wrote:
izzyarch wrote:
Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.
and your the perfect person then mate your to quick to judge what the hell has smoking and being overweight got to do with all this . it doesnt matter what these people look like or what they like to do they have money in their pockets which they spend to help improve weymouth via the councils facilities. i smoke and am overweight and live in weymouth ,yet i work 70 hours a week to support my wife and 2 kids and take no income or handouts from the government i also pay a hefty poll tax bill and all my taxes and help out in the community in my spare time ,so am i a drain on your wonderful little narrow minded brain.your prob unemployed and its people like me paying for your upkeep to live in this beautiful town ,either that or your a posh wannabe that still lives in a society of class where anything below you is considered evil and not worthy .
Just a note from down under. When I went to school at All Saints back in the 60's the personal signature for myself was " I ", always a capital letter. Reading recent posts to the Echo, it now appears, in many cases ( to be a lower case) "i". When did the rules change? Wish I'd known back then, I might have past English.
All the best cobbers, see yous ron. (col. for Later on)
When I was a lad, I might have gotten a clip around the head if I put my elbows on the dinner table. Luckily over the years we came to realise that things like certain table manners were not very important in relationship to (say) being a nice person. Society therefore chose to emphasise more important things. I guess this change of attitude would also apply to grammar. The content of the article being of more importance than the structure.
I think content and structure are equally as important, otherwise the message or point being communicated can be misinterpreted or lost in translation.
sorry, could you rephrase that. I didn't quite get it ;)
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maximan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocky Wade[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobby1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]izzyarch[/bold] wrote: Summer in Weymouth minus hoards of inactive, fag-smoking, alcohol-loving, tattooed, morbidly obese that add to the thousands that live here already. It's absolute bliss at the moment as far as I'm concerned.[/p][/quote]and your the perfect person then mate your to quick to judge what the hell has smoking and being overweight got to do with all this . it doesnt matter what these people look like or what they like to do they have money in their pockets which they spend to help improve weymouth via the councils facilities. i smoke and am overweight and live in weymouth ,yet i work 70 hours a week to support my wife and 2 kids and take no income or handouts from the government i also pay a hefty poll tax bill and all my taxes and help out in the community in my spare time ,so am i a drain on your wonderful little narrow minded brain.your prob unemployed and its people like me paying for your upkeep to live in this beautiful town ,either that or your a posh wannabe that still lives in a society of class where anything below you is considered evil and not worthy .[/p][/quote]Just a note from down under. When I went to school at All Saints back in the 60's the personal signature for myself was " I ", always a capital letter. Reading recent posts to the Echo, it now appears, in many cases ( to be a lower case) "i". When did the rules change? Wish I'd known back then, I might have past English. All the best cobbers, see yous ron. (col. for Later on)[/p][/quote]When I was a lad, I might have gotten a clip around the head if I put my elbows on the dinner table. Luckily over the years we came to realise that things like certain table manners were not very important in relationship to (say) being a nice person. Society therefore chose to emphasise more important things. I guess this change of attitude would also apply to grammar. The content of the article being of more importance than the structure.[/p][/quote]I think content and structure are equally as important, otherwise the message or point being communicated can be misinterpreted or lost in translation.[/p][/quote]sorry, could you rephrase that. I didn't quite get it ;) maximan

7:50am Sat 4 Aug 12

cevadriver says...

well we do come to weymouth twice a year but was told on the news that your local council advised people not to come so we are in cornwall this year and apart from that we will be back for a pre booked weekend in sept but after that its goodbye weymouth our two weeks will be spent elswhere, we have been going to weymouth for the last 40 years , Enjoy your two weeks of glory. ps i do visit to deliver to cancer patients once a month and will buy a sandwich when im there so all is not lost way to go w&pdc Andy n liz
well we do come to weymouth twice a year but was told on the news that your local council advised people not to come so we are in cornwall this year and apart from that we will be back for a pre booked weekend in sept but after that its goodbye weymouth our two weeks will be spent elswhere, we have been going to weymouth for the last 40 years , Enjoy your two weeks of glory. ps i do visit to deliver to cancer patients once a month and will buy a sandwich when im there so all is not lost way to go w&pdc Andy n liz cevadriver

12:08am Sun 5 Aug 12

thornton34ukuk says...

im sorry but council wont do nothing there happy with there new council office in dorch witch is being bult what about that i bet most of the money went on that u have put are town and portland to shame and echo has not suported us as well all they do is put the crap about how biz it has been i fill sorry for are children big shame
im sorry but council wont do nothing there happy with there new council office in dorch witch is being bult what about that i bet most of the money went on that u have put are town and portland to shame and echo has not suported us as well all they do is put the crap about how biz it has been i fill sorry for are children big shame thornton34ukuk

6:19pm Mon 6 Aug 12

Stixalot says...

Best thing about town at the moment??? No traffic on the esplanade best idea ever! No traffic equals less pollution and cleaner air around the beach and restaurants they should do this every start of the season people won't complain eventually ( well there's always a few I suppose) and the system has managed to cope well enough so far. I commute everyday at peak times and have not really experienced much congestion at all
Best thing about town at the moment??? No traffic on the esplanade best idea ever! No traffic equals less pollution and cleaner air around the beach and restaurants they should do this every start of the season people won't complain eventually ( well there's always a few I suppose) and the system has managed to cope well enough so far. I commute everyday at peak times and have not really experienced much congestion at all Stixalot

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