Knife attack, fight with a bottle, a prostitute and a sad child: what a 10-year-old child sees every day from his bedroom window in Boscombe

Bournemouth Echo: SAD SIGHTS: The 10-year-old’s picture SAD SIGHTS: The 10-year-old’s picture

A CHILD’S drawing of what he sees from his Boscombe bedroom window – a prostitute, a fight and a man urinating in public.

Click to view the drawing at full size

His dad passed the picture to the Echo and said: “It’s sad that they see this sort of behaviour from adults all the time and they see it as normal.”

The 10-year-old boy lives close to Churchill Gardens and the area’s red light district around St Clement’s Church.

His drawing shows a man fighting with a bottle and knife, a woman with money stuffed in her stocking – and a sad boy.

The boy said: “I see all these people out of my window all the time – sometimes I tell my dad, sometimes I just watch them.”

The dad said: “He sees prostitutes regularly and the people fighting with the bottle. He’s seen people urinating in the graveyard at St Clements.

“The children often get woken by shouting and screaming and witness women being picked up in cars, a lot of aggressive men are around all the time.”

The Echo spoke to residents living in the area and they said the disturbing images in the drawing were all too common.

Boscombe resident Chris Thompson, 22, who grew up in the area, said: “You see lots and lots of fights between groups of lads.

“When I was growing up the prostitution was more towards the train station. Churchill Gardens has improved a lot.

“When you are little all this frightens you, you feel shocked.”

The Echo was speaking to one woman when she stopped a passing Dave Wells van mid-interview.

She told the van driver: “There’s smackheads injecting in our toilet again.”

There was a group of men drinking and dropping beer cans in Churchill Gardens.

As the Echo interviewed two fathers and their children at 1.30pm, there were two prostitutes over the road stopping passing cars.

Joey Robinson, 28, dad of eight and three-year-old girls, said: “You see a lot of drinkers here and you see prostitutes all the time along here.

“You want to get your children away from that.

“I came here from Tottenham and I find it worse here than certain parts of Tottenham. I didn’t believe it was like this.”

His cousin Jay Robinson, 27, a dad of one, said: “You get drunks on benders, a lot of shouting and arguing.

“You get prostitutes at night without fail – they even follow you sometimes. It’s not nice for the children.”

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9:24am Tue 12 Jun 12

politicaltrainspotter says...

Nothing new then.
Nothing new then. politicaltrainspotter

9:30am Tue 12 Jun 12

The Liberal says...

How sad. We tend to forget that children see these things going on and that it really affects them.
How sad. We tend to forget that children see these things going on and that it really affects them. The Liberal

9:50am Tue 12 Jun 12

rudolph_hucker says...

None of this nonsense on Chessel Avenue where I live.
I wouldn't want to live anywhere else in Bournemouth.
There will always be drug addicts and whores in some areas.
None of this nonsense on Chessel Avenue where I live. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else in Bournemouth. There will always be drug addicts and whores in some areas. rudolph_hucker

9:54am Tue 12 Jun 12

poolebabe says...

The Liberal wrote:
How sad. We tend to forget that children see these things going on and that it really affects them.
Too true. It is very sad.
[quote][p][bold]The Liberal[/bold] wrote: How sad. We tend to forget that children see these things going on and that it really affects them.[/p][/quote]Too true. It is very sad. poolebabe

10:03am Tue 12 Jun 12

The Renegade Master says...

My advice to this young boy's dad is simple. Move. If you don't want to live where the scum are you have no choice because our Council and local police seem unable or unwilling to solve the problem.
My advice to this young boy's dad is simple. Move. If you don't want to live where the scum are you have no choice because our Council and local police seem unable or unwilling to solve the problem. The Renegade Master

10:13am Tue 12 Jun 12

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH says...

Nothing has changed in the past 12 years of being here. The Police need to grow some balls like in the USA. Over there you go to jail for loitering!
Nothing has changed in the past 12 years of being here. The Police need to grow some balls like in the USA. Over there you go to jail for loitering! ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH

10:17am Tue 12 Jun 12

Anarmslength says...

The Echo was speaking to one woman when she stopped a passing Dave Wells van mid-interview.

She told the van driver: “There’s smackheads injecting in our toilet again.” ...... wasn't it Mr Wells who invited all the "smackheads" here in the first place? He couldn't care less who injects what in his toilets as the majority of his income is guaranteed from Bournemouth Council.
The Echo was speaking to one woman when she stopped a passing Dave Wells van mid-interview. She told the van driver: “There’s smackheads injecting in our toilet again.” ...... wasn't it Mr Wells who invited all the "smackheads" here in the first place? He couldn't care less who injects what in his toilets as the majority of his income is guaranteed from Bournemouth Council. Anarmslength

10:27am Tue 12 Jun 12

Telscombe Cliffy says...

Agree with Renegade, the answer is to move, Boscombe won't change. Similar accomodation is available in Charminster/Winton not too far away without such a nasty environment for children. Wouln't like my children to have grown up in Boscombe and even now they are in their late teens /early twenties I advise them not to visit the area. There are nicer areas a stones throw away.
Agree with Renegade, the answer is to move, Boscombe won't change. Similar accomodation is available in Charminster/Winton not too far away without such a nasty environment for children. Wouln't like my children to have grown up in Boscombe and even now they are in their late teens /early twenties I advise them not to visit the area. There are nicer areas a stones throw away. Telscombe Cliffy

10:27am Tue 12 Jun 12

elite50 says...

As for the police doing all they can.
If they are looking the other way they cant do anything.
Or maybe they should get the 10 year old to show them when the law is being broken!
Hey Mr. Plod, are you embarassed?
If not, you should be!
As for the police doing all they can. If they are looking the other way they cant do anything. Or maybe they should get the 10 year old to show them when the law is being broken! Hey Mr. Plod, are you embarassed? If not, you should be! elite50

10:38am Tue 12 Jun 12

Dave2207 says...

Plod should be spending time plodding - on foot - not driving around in a vehicle and fleetingly visiting an area.
Plod should be spending time plodding - on foot - not driving around in a vehicle and fleetingly visiting an area. Dave2207

10:43am Tue 12 Jun 12

lisa401 says...

Anarmslength wrote:
The Echo was speaking to one woman when she stopped a passing Dave Wells van mid-interview.

She told the van driver: “There’s smackheads injecting in our toilet again.” ...... wasn't it Mr Wells who invited all the "smackheads" here in the first place? He couldn't care less who injects what in his toilets as the majority of his income is guaranteed from Bournemouth Council.
"The majority of his income is guaranteed from Bournemouth Council"... You mean US - the mug council tax payers?
[quote][p][bold]Anarmslength[/bold] wrote: The Echo was speaking to one woman when she stopped a passing Dave Wells van mid-interview. She told the van driver: “There’s smackheads injecting in our toilet again.” ...... wasn't it Mr Wells who invited all the "smackheads" here in the first place? He couldn't care less who injects what in his toilets as the majority of his income is guaranteed from Bournemouth Council.[/p][/quote]"The majority of his income is guaranteed from Bournemouth Council"... You mean US - the mug council tax payers? lisa401

10:51am Tue 12 Jun 12

wallydown says...

Anarmslength wrote:
The Echo was speaking to one woman when she stopped a passing Dave Wells van mid-interview.

She told the van driver: “There’s smackheads injecting in our toilet again.” ...... wasn't it Mr Wells who invited all the "smackheads" here in the first place? He couldn't care less who injects what in his toilets as the majority of his income is guaranteed from Bournemouth Council.
Honestly ,people like you annoy me!
So besides accommodation that the government have failed to provide Dave Wells also has to do the job of the police ? I dont know the figures but the suggestion is that Dave Wells houses 2000 people. I think its probably more - hes not a bloody social worker.he takes on the rubbish nobody else wants so why shouldnt he be financially rewarded for that? If he turfed them all out it would really cost this council a fortune to provide an alternative.
so hes a multimillionaire ,so what ,i dont consider that hes a flash individual and many years ago i lived in his places and was very grateful for it,ive never had a problem with him and he worked long hours then and probably still does - riches earned and well deserved. If he is now enjoying the spoils of a lifes work then so be it.
this childs observations of boscombe reflect what we all know about this area ,efforts are being made to change it but the problems are deep rooted and i dont think they will ever do more than control it on a basic level . If you dont like boscombe there is only one solution ,you have to move .the people who live in that area and have various issues are there because they have a network that supports their problem and they dont want that broken up and realistically nor do the authorities its better to know where these people are and have some access to them in one place . A lot of the people living in boscombe really are struggling with their lives and you wouldnt want to be there !!
[quote][p][bold]Anarmslength[/bold] wrote: The Echo was speaking to one woman when she stopped a passing Dave Wells van mid-interview. She told the van driver: “There’s smackheads injecting in our toilet again.” ...... wasn't it Mr Wells who invited all the "smackheads" here in the first place? He couldn't care less who injects what in his toilets as the majority of his income is guaranteed from Bournemouth Council.[/p][/quote]Honestly ,people like you annoy me! So besides accommodation that the government have failed to provide Dave Wells also has to do the job of the police ? I dont know the figures but the suggestion is that Dave Wells houses 2000 people. I think its probably more - hes not a bloody social worker.he takes on the rubbish nobody else wants so why shouldnt he be financially rewarded for that? If he turfed them all out it would really cost this council a fortune to provide an alternative. so hes a multimillionaire ,so what ,i dont consider that hes a flash individual and many years ago i lived in his places and was very grateful for it,ive never had a problem with him and he worked long hours then and probably still does - riches earned and well deserved. If he is now enjoying the spoils of a lifes work then so be it. this childs observations of boscombe reflect what we all know about this area ,efforts are being made to change it but the problems are deep rooted and i dont think they will ever do more than control it on a basic level . If you dont like boscombe there is only one solution ,you have to move .the people who live in that area and have various issues are there because they have a network that supports their problem and they dont want that broken up and realistically nor do the authorities its better to know where these people are and have some access to them in one place . A lot of the people living in boscombe really are struggling with their lives and you wouldnt want to be there !! wallydown

10:52am Tue 12 Jun 12

penhale says...

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote:
Nothing has changed in the past 12 years of being here. The Police need to grow some balls like in the USA. Over there you go to jail for loitering!
What, and infringe the human rights of the scum who infest Boscombe, you cant do that.
[quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: Nothing has changed in the past 12 years of being here. The Police need to grow some balls like in the USA. Over there you go to jail for loitering![/p][/quote]What, and infringe the human rights of the scum who infest Boscombe, you cant do that. penhale

11:02am Tue 12 Jun 12

mysticalshoelace says...

My advice to this young boy's dad is simple. Move.
I'm sure half the residents of Boscombe would move tomorrow if they could but unfortunately it's not that easy, moving is very expensive especially if you are renting.
[quote]My advice to this young boy's dad is simple. Move.[/quote]I'm sure half the residents of Boscombe would move tomorrow if they could but unfortunately it's not that easy, moving is very expensive especially if you are renting. mysticalshoelace

11:16am Tue 12 Jun 12

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH says...

penhale wrote:
ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote:
Nothing has changed in the past 12 years of being here. The Police need to grow some balls like in the USA. Over there you go to jail for loitering!
What, and infringe the human rights of the scum who infest Boscombe, you cant do that.
thanks Penhale, on the "other story like this" ( http://www.bournemou
thecho.co.uk/news/97
55379.Sketch_of_sham
e___We_re_working_ha
rd_to_address_issues
_in_Boscombe___say_D
orset_Police ) it appears people don't want a civilized society and are all for keeping lawless, disrespectful, violent, scary-for-adults-as-
well-as-children Boscombe the way it is.

I do wish The Echo wouldn't create multiple articles on virtually the same topic at the same time then after some time make certain of those articles hard to find later on in the day. They've done it before...
[quote][p][bold]penhale[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: Nothing has changed in the past 12 years of being here. The Police need to grow some balls like in the USA. Over there you go to jail for loitering![/p][/quote]What, and infringe the human rights of the scum who infest Boscombe, you cant do that.[/p][/quote]thanks Penhale, on the "other story like this" ( http://www.bournemou thecho.co.uk/news/97 55379.Sketch_of_sham e___We_re_working_ha rd_to_address_issues _in_Boscombe___say_D orset_Police ) it appears people don't want a civilized society and are all for keeping lawless, disrespectful, violent, scary-for-adults-as- well-as-children Boscombe the way it is. I do wish The Echo wouldn't create multiple articles on virtually the same topic at the same time then after some time make certain of those articles hard to find later on in the day. They've done it before... ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH

11:29am Tue 12 Jun 12

beachcomber1 says...

i live in Boscombe, and it's perfectly fine where i live. i don't like the whole area being tarred with the same brish.
i live in Boscombe, and it's perfectly fine where i live. i don't like the whole area being tarred with the same brish. beachcomber1

11:29am Tue 12 Jun 12

beachcomber1 says...

oops i meant brush of course lol
oops i meant brush of course lol beachcomber1

11:35am Tue 12 Jun 12

O'Reilly says...

I think it is time the police started one of their 'Zero Tolerance' campaigns in certain quarters of Boscombe, oh! and not just for one day.
I think it is time the police started one of their 'Zero Tolerance' campaigns in certain quarters of Boscombe, oh! and not just for one day. O'Reilly

11:40am Tue 12 Jun 12

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH says...

O'Reilly wrote:
I think it is time the police started one of their 'Zero Tolerance' campaigns in certain quarters of Boscombe, oh! and not just for one day.
Bingo!
[quote][p][bold]O'Reilly[/bold] wrote: I think it is time the police started one of their 'Zero Tolerance' campaigns in certain quarters of Boscombe, oh! and not just for one day.[/p][/quote]Bingo! ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH

11:46am Tue 12 Jun 12

BmthNewshound says...

This haunting picture reminds me of William Hogarths iconic sketch of Gin Lane in London in the 1750’s in which he illustrates the inability of the government and the church to remedy the evil effects of gin. Over 250 years later it seems that things haven’t changed much, except that gin isn’t the only substance available. If you don't know what I'm talking about google it.
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Its very easy for people to say that the family should move. They probably didn’t choose to live in Boscombe it may have been the only part of town they could afford. Average earnings in Bournemouth are below the national average whilst housing costs are higher than average.
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This isn’t an image of Boscombe our esteemed Council Leader would choose to recognise. Despite the £millions that’s been pumped into Boscombe there simply isn’t the political will to tackle the social problems which plague the area. To tackle social deprivation and drugs & alcohol abuse would mean that Bournemouth Council would have to admit to the scale of the problem and that doesn’t sit well with their rather rose-tinted image of Bournemouth.
This haunting picture reminds me of William Hogarths iconic sketch of Gin Lane in London in the 1750’s in which he illustrates the inability of the government and the church to remedy the evil effects of gin. Over 250 years later it seems that things haven’t changed much, except that gin isn’t the only substance available. If you don't know what I'm talking about google it. . Its very easy for people to say that the family should move. They probably didn’t choose to live in Boscombe it may have been the only part of town they could afford. Average earnings in Bournemouth are below the national average whilst housing costs are higher than average. . This isn’t an image of Boscombe our esteemed Council Leader would choose to recognise. Despite the £millions that’s been pumped into Boscombe there simply isn’t the political will to tackle the social problems which plague the area. To tackle social deprivation and drugs & alcohol abuse would mean that Bournemouth Council would have to admit to the scale of the problem and that doesn’t sit well with their rather rose-tinted image of Bournemouth. BmthNewshound

12:12pm Tue 12 Jun 12

derek_acorah says...

Dave2207 wrote:
Plod should be spending time plodding - on foot - not driving around in a vehicle and fleetingly visiting an area.
They clearly have more important things to do. Towns dont 'surround' themselves you know. There may be someone, somewhere driving without a seatbelt on. Worse still, some of the driving awareness courses may not be full, threatening revenue. As we know, there are no excuses for that.
[quote][p][bold]Dave2207[/bold] wrote: Plod should be spending time plodding - on foot - not driving around in a vehicle and fleetingly visiting an area.[/p][/quote]They clearly have more important things to do. Towns dont 'surround' themselves you know. There may be someone, somewhere driving without a seatbelt on. Worse still, some of the driving awareness courses may not be full, threatening revenue. As we know, there are no excuses for that. derek_acorah

12:35pm Tue 12 Jun 12

BigBadPhil says...

This story really is stupid .... how about what a 1o year old boy draws from his wooden hut in Africa ... did he really see all this from his window .. if so then his father needs to get a grip on life and move to a better area .. but I still expect if the boy did another drawing from his window the same items would come up .. prehaps from the films and tv that he is allowed to watch which really is not suitable ... come on does he really see ' ladys of the night ' stuffing money down their knickers .. most of the girls in that area dont even wear knickers !!
This story really is stupid .... how about what a 1o year old boy draws from his wooden hut in Africa ... did he really see all this from his window .. if so then his father needs to get a grip on life and move to a better area .. but I still expect if the boy did another drawing from his window the same items would come up .. prehaps from the films and tv that he is allowed to watch which really is not suitable ... come on does he really see ' ladys of the night ' stuffing money down their knickers .. most of the girls in that area dont even wear knickers !! BigBadPhil

12:39pm Tue 12 Jun 12

carm11 says...

A sketch or poem can often illustrate the problem better than a thousand ernest words.
A sketch or poem can often illustrate the problem better than a thousand ernest words. carm11

12:48pm Tue 12 Jun 12

aboveitall says...

boSCUMbe...
boSCUMbe... aboveitall

12:58pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Wilkie says...

wallydown, work for Dave Wells do you? It's quite right that he was responsible for importing the first wave of benefits druggies from predominately Liverpool in the 1980's. I recall that at one time in that era 42% of crime was attributable to persons from Livepool, who probably made up 1% of the population at that time. His rabbit hutch developments are an absolute discrace to my beautiful town. Money is his only driver, the man has no social conscience.
wallydown, work for Dave Wells do you? It's quite right that he was responsible for importing the first wave of benefits druggies from predominately Liverpool in the 1980's. I recall that at one time in that era 42% of crime was attributable to persons from Livepool, who probably made up 1% of the population at that time. His rabbit hutch developments are an absolute discrace to my beautiful town. Money is his only driver, the man has no social conscience. Wilkie

1:17pm Tue 12 Jun 12

BigBadPhil says...

Wilkie that's stereotypical .. if he didnt supply ' rabbit hutch developments ' where would all these people live ? prostitutes , men peeing in the street all need somewhere to sleep at night ... Mr Wells is just providing a service .. like our prostitute in the picture ..... I bet she lives in canford cliffs really .
Wilkie that's stereotypical .. if he didnt supply ' rabbit hutch developments ' where would all these people live ? prostitutes , men peeing in the street all need somewhere to sleep at night ... Mr Wells is just providing a service .. like our prostitute in the picture ..... I bet she lives in canford cliffs really . BigBadPhil

1:44pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Branksome Boy says...

I live opposite a DW Rabbit hutch but I'm in Poole and if I bothered to look out my window on most nights I would see drug deals going on outside the flats, fights between residents are frequent and a new resident has decided that she can't be bothered to take her child's nappies to the bin so she throws them out the window! The police are their at least 3 times each week! Oh I would love to move but I can't afford to and why should I - I was here before DW rubbish residents!
I live opposite a DW Rabbit hutch but I'm in Poole and if I bothered to look out my window on most nights I would see drug deals going on outside the flats, fights between residents are frequent and a new resident has decided that she can't be bothered to take her child's nappies to the bin so she throws them out the window! The police are their at least 3 times each week! Oh I would love to move but I can't afford to and why should I - I was here before DW rubbish residents! Branksome Boy

1:50pm Tue 12 Jun 12

BigBadPhil says...

You cant choose your neighbours .. you can live in sandbanks and still have horrid neighbours ... money doesn't buy class !
You cant choose your neighbours .. you can live in sandbanks and still have horrid neighbours ... money doesn't buy class ! BigBadPhil

1:55pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Wilkie says...

BigBadphil, if the rabbit hutches weren't there then they would live somewhere other than Bournemouth. Unfortunately, due to all the garden grabbing, family homes with gardens are now at a premium. This causes middle and higher income familes, who are neither a draw on the town's resources or as source of crime to look for somewhere outside of the town to live, to be replaced by Dave Well's tenants.
BigBadphil, if the rabbit hutches weren't there then they would live somewhere other than Bournemouth. Unfortunately, due to all the garden grabbing, family homes with gardens are now at a premium. This causes middle and higher income familes, who are neither a draw on the town's resources or as source of crime to look for somewhere outside of the town to live, to be replaced by Dave Well's tenants. Wilkie

1:58pm Tue 12 Jun 12

rudolph_hucker says...

Mr N James wrote:
I'm very disapointed in the third comment from rudolph-Hucker ,I hope ive put the H in and not a F. Well done for living in nice area. (i Do) We all cant live in a nice areas and no one wants hookers ect out there house.

Hucker what you should had said is ,im sorry about the young lad and what he has seen through his window and i hope things get sorted out for him and his family. But no all you said i live in a nice area BOLLO**S to every one els. HOW SAD YOU ARE.
I live in Boscombe, same as the lad who drew the picture.
[quote][p][bold]Mr N James[/bold] wrote: I'm very disapointed in the third comment from rudolph-Hucker ,I hope ive put the H in and not a F. Well done for living in nice area. (i Do) We all cant live in a nice areas and no one wants hookers ect out there house. Hucker what you should had said is ,im sorry about the young lad and what he has seen through his window and i hope things get sorted out for him and his family. But no all you said i live in a nice area BOLLO**S to every one els. HOW SAD YOU ARE.[/p][/quote]I live in Boscombe, same as the lad who drew the picture. rudolph_hucker

2:08pm Tue 12 Jun 12

BigBadPhil says...

I tend to disagree Wilkie .. society needs different class of people .. I would predict 80% of the 'rabbit hutch ' people choose not to work...simply for the free lodgings .. and unless they have had a house in a nice area they know no difference... spend a day in east london .. a real eye opener !
I tend to disagree Wilkie .. society needs different class of people .. I would predict 80% of the 'rabbit hutch ' people choose not to work...simply for the free lodgings .. and unless they have had a house in a nice area they know no difference... spend a day in east london .. a real eye opener ! BigBadPhil

2:11pm Tue 12 Jun 12

wallydown says...

Wilkie wrote:
wallydown, work for Dave Wells do you? It's quite right that he was responsible for importing the first wave of benefits druggies from predominately Liverpool in the 1980's. I recall that at one time in that era 42% of crime was attributable to persons from Livepool, who probably made up 1% of the population at that time. His rabbit hutch developments are an absolute discrace to my beautiful town. Money is his only driver, the man has no social conscience.
How ignorant are you? No i dont work for DW . Rabbit hutches, i dont think the average housing association property is any bigger these days ,space costs money and in bournemouth plenty of it ,in my work i call at a lot of these properties and they seem perfectly adequate. Its a start for people . 100% better than a bedsit or the street.
what have you got against scoucers ? They are the same as everyone else but with a lairy attitude that seems to be part of their make up. No one says youve got to like everyone but at least have a reason to have a go at them
[quote][p][bold]Wilkie[/bold] wrote: wallydown, work for Dave Wells do you? It's quite right that he was responsible for importing the first wave of benefits druggies from predominately Liverpool in the 1980's. I recall that at one time in that era 42% of crime was attributable to persons from Livepool, who probably made up 1% of the population at that time. His rabbit hutch developments are an absolute discrace to my beautiful town. Money is his only driver, the man has no social conscience.[/p][/quote]How ignorant are you? No i dont work for DW . Rabbit hutches, i dont think the average housing association property is any bigger these days ,space costs money and in bournemouth plenty of it ,in my work i call at a lot of these properties and they seem perfectly adequate. Its a start for people . 100% better than a bedsit or the street. what have you got against scoucers ? They are the same as everyone else but with a lairy attitude that seems to be part of their make up. No one says youve got to like everyone but at least have a reason to have a go at them wallydown

2:11pm Tue 12 Jun 12

makingsenseofitall says...

The Council have clearly made a decision to contain the "problem people" in one area, rather than address the problems for the people. The Council could buy Houses of Multiple Occupancy when they come up for sale and convert them into large family flats with gardens, which has been expressed on this site many times. This would not only gradually change the mix of the population living around the Crescent but also provide much needed good housing.
Dave Wells is a business man so it's not his role in society to provide for the vulnerable and those in need, however, the Council do have a duty to scrutinise the accommodation he provides and they pay for (and we pay for from our taxes)....but the Council checks are brief and certainly not thorough....one would think the Council are happy to allow poor housing to continue.
The Council say their 'solution' is to build 11 houses (in a different area of Boscombe) on the Boscombe Community and Art site and ignore the potential the BCCA has for bringing tourists to the area, and providing jobs and a long-term base for children and young people to go to and see and do exciting, productive things.
As for the police, their numbers on the streets are reduced and have been for years so I guess they do what they can. As for social services, their numbers are also reduced and they do what they can. As for other voluntary organisations, they are stretched to the limit.
It has been reported that in recent years, B'mth Council has received £25 million to improve Boscombe...and like so many others I would like to know where that money has gone because I certainly don't see Boscombe improving; to the contrary it is getting more and more deprived.
Without the political will to change it, Boscombe will continue to decline, more children will see and emulate what is infront of them, more children will be offered drugs by dealers in the local park and the cycle will continue.
What has been described by this child is the reality of Boscombe ..it might not be the reality in upmarket parts of Boscombe on the South side of Christchurch Rd....but it is the reality of how people have to live who have insufficient money to get out.
As for blaming Mr. Wells, for all the problems...he will do what he can get away with and what provides a money for himself ....and he sure isn't going to provide ammenities for the area...that is the job of the Council.
The Council have clearly made a decision to contain the "problem people" in one area, rather than address the problems for the people. The Council could buy Houses of Multiple Occupancy when they come up for sale and convert them into large family flats with gardens, which has been expressed on this site many times. This would not only gradually change the mix of the population living around the Crescent but also provide much needed good housing. Dave Wells is a business man so it's not his role in society to provide for the vulnerable and those in need, however, the Council do have a duty to scrutinise the accommodation he provides and they pay for (and we pay for from our taxes)....but the Council checks are brief and certainly not thorough....one would think the Council are happy to allow poor housing to continue. The Council say their 'solution' is to build 11 houses (in a different area of Boscombe) on the Boscombe Community and Art site and ignore the potential the BCCA has for bringing tourists to the area, and providing jobs and a long-term base for children and young people to go to and see and do exciting, productive things. As for the police, their numbers on the streets are reduced and have been for years so I guess they do what they can. As for social services, their numbers are also reduced and they do what they can. As for other voluntary organisations, they are stretched to the limit. It has been reported that in recent years, B'mth Council has received £25 million to improve Boscombe...and like so many others I would like to know where that money has gone because I certainly don't see Boscombe improving; to the contrary it is getting more and more deprived. Without the political will to change it, Boscombe will continue to decline, more children will see and emulate what is infront of them, more children will be offered drugs by dealers in the local park and the cycle will continue. What has been described by this child is the reality of Boscombe ..it might not be the reality in upmarket parts of Boscombe on the South side of Christchurch Rd....but it is the reality of how people have to live who have insufficient money to get out. As for blaming Mr. Wells, for all the problems...he will do what he can get away with and what provides a money for himself ....and he sure isn't going to provide ammenities for the area...that is the job of the Council. makingsenseofitall

2:18pm Tue 12 Jun 12

dylan0202 says...

on a more positive note .. not a bad drawing from the little lad .. could be the next Lowry ..
on a more positive note .. not a bad drawing from the little lad .. could be the next Lowry .. dylan0202

2:32pm Tue 12 Jun 12

wallydown says...

makingsenseofitall wrote:
The Council have clearly made a decision to contain the "problem people" in one area, rather than address the problems for the people. The Council could buy Houses of Multiple Occupancy when they come up for sale and convert them into large family flats with gardens, which has been expressed on this site many times. This would not only gradually change the mix of the population living around the Crescent but also provide much needed good housing.
Dave Wells is a business man so it's not his role in society to provide for the vulnerable and those in need, however, the Council do have a duty to scrutinise the accommodation he provides and they pay for (and we pay for from our taxes)....but the Council checks are brief and certainly not thorough....one would think the Council are happy to allow poor housing to continue.
The Council say their 'solution' is to build 11 houses (in a different area of Boscombe) on the Boscombe Community and Art site and ignore the potential the BCCA has for bringing tourists to the area, and providing jobs and a long-term base for children and young people to go to and see and do exciting, productive things.
As for the police, their numbers on the streets are reduced and have been for years so I guess they do what they can. As for social services, their numbers are also reduced and they do what they can. As for other voluntary organisations, they are stretched to the limit.
It has been reported that in recent years, B'mth Council has received £25 million to improve Boscombe...and like so many others I would like to know where that money has gone because I certainly don't see Boscombe improving; to the contrary it is getting more and more deprived.
Without the political will to change it, Boscombe will continue to decline, more children will see and emulate what is infront of them, more children will be offered drugs by dealers in the local park and the cycle will continue.
What has been described by this child is the reality of Boscombe ..it might not be the reality in upmarket parts of Boscombe on the South side of Christchurch Rd....but it is the reality of how people have to live who have insufficient money to get out.
As for blaming Mr. Wells, for all the problems...he will do what he can get away with and what provides a money for himself ....and he sure isn't going to provide ammenities for the area...that is the job of the Council.
I have to ask,do you ever travel around this country ? Boscombe is heaven compared to some places and your ideal world solution is just pie in the sky stuff.the council cant dictate and its not their business to interfere in other peoples lives.
if you help a lot of these people they simply see it as an opportunity to take the mickey ,the best you can do is to quietly control them and attempt to educate,but they listen to their peers who are away with the fairies in a couldnt care less world and they pass this mantra on to their offspring ,its dreadful but thats how it is
[quote][p][bold]makingsenseofitall[/bold] wrote: The Council have clearly made a decision to contain the "problem people" in one area, rather than address the problems for the people. The Council could buy Houses of Multiple Occupancy when they come up for sale and convert them into large family flats with gardens, which has been expressed on this site many times. This would not only gradually change the mix of the population living around the Crescent but also provide much needed good housing. Dave Wells is a business man so it's not his role in society to provide for the vulnerable and those in need, however, the Council do have a duty to scrutinise the accommodation he provides and they pay for (and we pay for from our taxes)....but the Council checks are brief and certainly not thorough....one would think the Council are happy to allow poor housing to continue. The Council say their 'solution' is to build 11 houses (in a different area of Boscombe) on the Boscombe Community and Art site and ignore the potential the BCCA has for bringing tourists to the area, and providing jobs and a long-term base for children and young people to go to and see and do exciting, productive things. As for the police, their numbers on the streets are reduced and have been for years so I guess they do what they can. As for social services, their numbers are also reduced and they do what they can. As for other voluntary organisations, they are stretched to the limit. It has been reported that in recent years, B'mth Council has received £25 million to improve Boscombe...and like so many others I would like to know where that money has gone because I certainly don't see Boscombe improving; to the contrary it is getting more and more deprived. Without the political will to change it, Boscombe will continue to decline, more children will see and emulate what is infront of them, more children will be offered drugs by dealers in the local park and the cycle will continue. What has been described by this child is the reality of Boscombe ..it might not be the reality in upmarket parts of Boscombe on the South side of Christchurch Rd....but it is the reality of how people have to live who have insufficient money to get out. As for blaming Mr. Wells, for all the problems...he will do what he can get away with and what provides a money for himself ....and he sure isn't going to provide ammenities for the area...that is the job of the Council.[/p][/quote]I have to ask,do you ever travel around this country ? Boscombe is heaven compared to some places and your ideal world solution is just pie in the sky stuff.the council cant dictate and its not their business to interfere in other peoples lives. if you help a lot of these people they simply see it as an opportunity to take the mickey ,the best you can do is to quietly control them and attempt to educate,but they listen to their peers who are away with the fairies in a couldnt care less world and they pass this mantra on to their offspring ,its dreadful but thats how it is wallydown

2:32pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Bob49 says...

"if he didnt supply ' rabbit hutch developments ' where would all these people live ?"

Where they lived before there was hige sums of money to be made by bringing them into the area.

If you alllow (even pay) someone to feed all the seagulls then you can hardly be surprised if the place is covered in bird s***.

Stop the person who is feeding them and they will have no reason to congregate there.
"if he didnt supply ' rabbit hutch developments ' where would all these people live ?" Where they lived before there was hige sums of money to be made by bringing them into the area. If you alllow (even pay) someone to feed all the seagulls then you can hardly be surprised if the place is covered in bird s***. Stop the person who is feeding them and they will have no reason to congregate there. Bob49

2:37pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Wilkie says...

Wallydown, no problem with scousers at all. As with any town, Liverpool will have the good, the bad and the ugly. However, we didn't receive a representative cross section from Liverpool, but a concentration of their criminal element, as was evident from the crime figures in those days.
Wallydown, no problem with scousers at all. As with any town, Liverpool will have the good, the bad and the ugly. However, we didn't receive a representative cross section from Liverpool, but a concentration of their criminal element, as was evident from the crime figures in those days. Wilkie

2:43pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Piston_Broke says...

BigBadPhil wrote:
This story really is stupid .... how about what a 1o year old boy draws from his wooden hut in Africa ... did he really see all this from his window .. if so then his father needs to get a grip on life and move to a better area .. but I still expect if the boy did another drawing from his window the same items would come up .. prehaps from the films and tv that he is allowed to watch which really is not suitable ... come on does he really see ' ladys of the night ' stuffing money down their knickers .. most of the girls in that area dont even wear knickers !!
Reference the last line of your post, please tell how you know this.
[quote][p][bold]BigBadPhil[/bold] wrote: This story really is stupid .... how about what a 1o year old boy draws from his wooden hut in Africa ... did he really see all this from his window .. if so then his father needs to get a grip on life and move to a better area .. but I still expect if the boy did another drawing from his window the same items would come up .. prehaps from the films and tv that he is allowed to watch which really is not suitable ... come on does he really see ' ladys of the night ' stuffing money down their knickers .. most of the girls in that area dont even wear knickers !![/p][/quote]Reference the last line of your post, please tell how you know this. Piston_Broke

2:45pm Tue 12 Jun 12

stevobath says...

Part of the problem started when they knocked down 100s of family homes & pedestrianised,I say killed, Boscombe.
Anyone who knows the history of Bournemouth will tell you Boscombe has systematically been run down on purpose.Why? Because it was for many years a much better place to shop than Bournemouth town Centre.
Obviously there are other things that have also made the area worse, such as turning what were massive high class family homes, with servants, into HMOs.
In Edwardian times Walpole Rd & the Park area were THE place to live. Sorry I digress..My point is in reality the Council arent interested in improving Boscombe again As it DOES have the potential there to more than rival the centre of town.Big business obviously doesnt want that.The Boscombe area has been systematically run down since the 70s.I notice Southbourne shopping area slowly going the same way--Its not untouched by drugs etc.Southbourne too is rife with drugs & addicts.Its the same all over UK.Wherever there are poor people with low paid jobs or nothing at all there wiil b a social downturn in the area.The Council have just speeded this up with their 'Non Policies' IMHO.
Part of the problem started when they knocked down 100s of family homes & pedestrianised,I say killed, Boscombe. Anyone who knows the history of Bournemouth will tell you Boscombe has systematically been run down on purpose.Why? Because it was for many years a much better place to shop than Bournemouth town Centre. Obviously there are other things that have also made the area worse, such as turning what were massive high class family homes, with servants, into HMOs. In Edwardian times Walpole Rd & the Park area were THE place to live. Sorry I digress..My point is in reality the Council arent interested in improving Boscombe again As it DOES have the potential there to more than rival the centre of town.Big business obviously doesnt want that.The Boscombe area has been systematically run down since the 70s.I notice Southbourne shopping area slowly going the same way--Its not untouched by drugs etc.Southbourne too is rife with drugs & addicts.Its the same all over UK.Wherever there are poor people with low paid jobs or nothing at all there wiil b a social downturn in the area.The Council have just speeded this up with their 'Non Policies' IMHO. stevobath

3:01pm Tue 12 Jun 12

makingsenseofitall says...

Wallydown, our government figures put Boscombe as the most deprived community in the South West of England and its getting worse. I have lived in Maryhill, Easterhouse, and Shettleston all in Glasgow; several areas in London, Reading and in Toxteth and Anfield in Liverpool.....plus other areas of the country and abroad.
Yes Boscombe in PARTS might seem not as bad but around the Crescent it is every bit as bad and worse than what I've seen and what makes matters worse is that the Council are clearly intent in just leaving it to get worse.
When I lived in Newcastle and in Cardiff the amount of effort that was put in by both Councils was massive and has paid off.
Wallydown, our government figures put Boscombe as the most deprived community in the South West of England and its getting worse. I have lived in Maryhill, Easterhouse, and Shettleston all in Glasgow; several areas in London, Reading and in Toxteth and Anfield in Liverpool.....plus other areas of the country and abroad. Yes Boscombe in PARTS might seem not as bad but around the Crescent it is every bit as bad and worse than what I've seen and what makes matters worse is that the Council are clearly intent in just leaving it to get worse. When I lived in Newcastle and in Cardiff the amount of effort that was put in by both Councils was massive and has paid off. makingsenseofitall

3:05pm Tue 12 Jun 12

ellandrhia says...

Boscombe is a joke. The beggers, drunks and druggies carry on as normal. The bikes tear up and down the high street and shops close their doors for good at an alarming rate. Large pit bull type dogs run around off the lead and fights are commonplace. Meanwhile Dave Wells merrily lets his run-down flats and bedsits get worse knowing that he's on a winner whilst relaxing in his lovely house in Sanbanks. Great for the tourists who come up Sea Road on the land train which parks right in the middle of it all on the high street. Way to go Bournemouth coucil!
Boscombe is a joke. The beggers, drunks and druggies carry on as normal. The bikes tear up and down the high street and shops close their doors for good at an alarming rate. Large pit bull type dogs run around off the lead and fights are commonplace. Meanwhile Dave Wells merrily lets his run-down flats and bedsits get worse knowing that he's on a winner whilst relaxing in his lovely house in Sanbanks. Great for the tourists who come up Sea Road on the land train which parks right in the middle of it all on the high street. Way to go Bournemouth coucil! ellandrhia

3:18pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Afcblees says...

Some of you people make me laugh,I was born in Bosc hospital lived in southbourne most of my life till early teens then lived in rented accom with my partner in sthbourne,pokesdown and boscombe. It's easy to move from one place to another when renting but we have now finally bought our own house in boscombe near Gloucester rd we don't have any problems as yet just the odd slanging match from neighbours down the road, but nothing any normal st has,I feel sorry for those that live near to st Clements rd area but we feel that boscombe is ideal for us the sea,kings park footy stadium all we need on our door step,hard work and more neighbour hood watch scheme will drown these Sally's out.
Some of you people make me laugh,I was born in Bosc hospital lived in southbourne most of my life till early teens then lived in rented accom with my partner in sthbourne,pokesdown and boscombe. It's easy to move from one place to another when renting but we have now finally bought our own house in boscombe near Gloucester rd we don't have any problems as yet just the odd slanging match from neighbours down the road, but nothing any normal st has,I feel sorry for those that live near to st Clements rd area but we feel that boscombe is ideal for us the sea,kings park footy stadium all we need on our door step,hard work and more neighbour hood watch scheme will drown these Sally's out. Afcblees

3:20pm Tue 12 Jun 12

EGHH says...

Out of the mouths of babes... The only thing that will ever fix Boscombe is a tactical nuclear strike on it!!
Out of the mouths of babes... The only thing that will ever fix Boscombe is a tactical nuclear strike on it!! EGHH

3:35pm Tue 12 Jun 12

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH says...

My theory would be give these lowlife scum ("thugs") something to fear. Right now they act like (and think as if they) own the streets. Most evident outside Nationwide on the west side of Boscombe and immediate vicinity.

Something to fear, as in zero tolerance, round them up, ship 'em off to the local nick, book 'em and charge 'em and let them (try and) plead their innocence in a court of law.

(This includes loitering (after being asked to move on), being drunk in a public place, not having a license for their dog, even roudy behavior, etc, etc, ABSOLUTE ZERO TOLERANCE!)

See how that works. Simple strategy if you ask me, no?
My theory would be give these lowlife scum ("thugs") something to fear. Right now they act like (and think as if they) own the streets. Most evident outside Nationwide on the west side of Boscombe and immediate vicinity. Something to fear, as in zero tolerance, round them up, ship 'em off to the local nick, book 'em and charge 'em and let them (try and) plead their innocence in a court of law. (This includes loitering (after being asked to move on), being drunk in a public place, not having a license for their dog, even roudy behavior, etc, etc, ABSOLUTE ZERO TOLERANCE!) See how that works. Simple strategy if you ask me, no? ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH

3:47pm Tue 12 Jun 12

oneshortleg says...

Boscombe isn't the problem its a minority of people that cause the problems. Prostitution and drugs in the main go hand in hand, legalise them and if you want to partake its up to you.
As for the boy concerned yes its sad but at least its all happening outside, their are many children in are world that see these things INSIDE their homes. It is easy to say move out, but where to there just isn't the housing in this area!
Boscombe isn't the problem its a minority of people that cause the problems. Prostitution and drugs in the main go hand in hand, legalise them and if you want to partake its up to you. As for the boy concerned yes its sad but at least its all happening outside, their are many children in are world that see these things INSIDE their homes. It is easy to say move out, but where to there just isn't the housing in this area! oneshortleg

3:48pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Bev Mills says...

Sadly I must agree with many of these comments. I was born and brought up in Boscombe and it was such a pleasant, family area. The pedestrianisation was the beginning of the end for this lovely place. We moved out some years ago now, because we could see how the area was deteriorating. Thank goodness we did. If ever I come into Boscombe, I can't wait to get out. At times I have felt very vulnerable and threatened by things going on around me. Something which never happened during my childhood and teens. I can't believe successive councils (of all parties) have allowed the area to become what it is today.
Sadly I must agree with many of these comments. I was born and brought up in Boscombe and it was such a pleasant, family area. The pedestrianisation was the beginning of the end for this lovely place. We moved out some years ago now, because we could see how the area was deteriorating. Thank goodness we did. If ever I come into Boscombe, I can't wait to get out. At times I have felt very vulnerable and threatened by things going on around me. Something which never happened during my childhood and teens. I can't believe successive councils (of all parties) have allowed the area to become what it is today. Bev Mills

5:01pm Tue 12 Jun 12

paulo007 says...

"a prostitute, a fight and a man urinating in public"
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Sounds like a good night out to me! Chuck in a curry and some poppadoms and it's a perfect night!
"a prostitute, a fight and a man urinating in public" -------------------- ------------------ Sounds like a good night out to me! Chuck in a curry and some poppadoms and it's a perfect night! paulo007

5:42pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Earl says...

O'Reilly wrote:
I think it is time the police started one of their 'Zero Tolerance' campaigns in certain quarters of Boscombe, oh! and not just for one day.
"Just call the police " that's the advice they give as do some councillors, the trouble is the police don't turn up for about 30 to 40 minutes giving the perpetrators plenty of time to disappear waste of time having a police force why not close Boscombe police station (saves money) and get a few more police on the beat that way we may get a better service.
[quote][p][bold]O'Reilly[/bold] wrote: I think it is time the police started one of their 'Zero Tolerance' campaigns in certain quarters of Boscombe, oh! and not just for one day.[/p][/quote]"Just call the police " that's the advice they give as do some councillors, the trouble is the police don't turn up for about 30 to 40 minutes giving the perpetrators plenty of time to disappear waste of time having a police force why not close Boscombe police station (saves money) and get a few more police on the beat that way we may get a better service. Earl

5:42pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Earl says...

O'Reilly wrote:
I think it is time the police started one of their 'Zero Tolerance' campaigns in certain quarters of Boscombe, oh! and not just for one day.
"Just call the police " that's the advice they give as do some councillors, the trouble is the police don't turn up for about 30 to 40 minutes giving the perpetrators plenty of time to disappear waste of time having a police force why not close Boscombe police station (saves money) and get a few more police on the beat that way we may get a better service.
[quote][p][bold]O'Reilly[/bold] wrote: I think it is time the police started one of their 'Zero Tolerance' campaigns in certain quarters of Boscombe, oh! and not just for one day.[/p][/quote]"Just call the police " that's the advice they give as do some councillors, the trouble is the police don't turn up for about 30 to 40 minutes giving the perpetrators plenty of time to disappear waste of time having a police force why not close Boscombe police station (saves money) and get a few more police on the beat that way we may get a better service. Earl

5:43pm Tue 12 Jun 12

step up says...

It all starts with the scurge that are HMO's. Once you allow them an area is doomed. I've seen it in Charminster. Once beautiful Edwardian houses with huge mature gardens once converted into one room hovels drive families out to be replaced by the alcoholics and drug addicts that invariably inhabit HMO's and there you have it. It's not rocket science. The type of housing dictates the whole profile of an area and sadly the council are in the pockets of scum landlords with as has been stated, retire to Sandbanks.
It all starts with the scurge that are HMO's. Once you allow them an area is doomed. I've seen it in Charminster. Once beautiful Edwardian houses with huge mature gardens once converted into one room hovels drive families out to be replaced by the alcoholics and drug addicts that invariably inhabit HMO's and there you have it. It's not rocket science. The type of housing dictates the whole profile of an area and sadly the council are in the pockets of scum landlords with as has been stated, retire to Sandbanks. step up

6:15pm Tue 12 Jun 12

mysticalshoelace says...

It all starts with the scurge that are HMO's.
Have to agree, in this case the council have caused Boscombe to be what it is today by allowing so many HMO's and other poor quality bedsit accommodation. The council sowed the seeds and the residents are reaping the results.
[quote]It all starts with the scurge that are HMO's. [/quote]Have to agree, in this case the council have caused Boscombe to be what it is today by allowing so many HMO's and other poor quality bedsit accommodation. The council sowed the seeds and the residents are reaping the results. mysticalshoelace

6:26pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Desperado says...

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote:
Nothing has changed in the past 12 years of being here. The Police need to grow some balls like in the USA. Over there you go to jail for loitering!
They are far to busy , with the easy task of catching motorists going 2 mph over the speed limit.
And I agree with the comment from ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH .
Have you seen the way they pussyfoot around the scum that are a law unto themselves , when they set up camp on playing fields and so on.
I don't know what the police force is coming too , they are not doing themselves any favours , one day honest folk will have had enough , and take the law into their own hands .
Then look out ...........
[quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: Nothing has changed in the past 12 years of being here. The Police need to grow some balls like in the USA. Over there you go to jail for loitering![/p][/quote]They are far to busy , with the easy task of catching motorists going 2 mph over the speed limit. And I agree with the comment from ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH . Have you seen the way they pussyfoot around the scum that are a law unto themselves , when they set up camp on playing fields and so on. I don't know what the police force is coming too , they are not doing themselves any favours , one day honest folk will have had enough , and take the law into their own hands . Then look out ........... Desperado

6:32pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Dibbles2 says...

Its all about statistics! Drug treatment results are forged and manipulated so that it looks like they are successful when the truth is they arent. The treatment agencies continue to pull in the money. PS many services are nice little family run tax dodges where the priotity is themselves! Conflict of interests are round every corner and BADSUF investigate and then never do anything. Its about time that the echo investigated what really goes on with the money set to tackle drugs and how successful they are. Now that would make a news story!
Its all about statistics! Drug treatment results are forged and manipulated so that it looks like they are successful when the truth is they arent. The treatment agencies continue to pull in the money. PS many services are nice little family run tax dodges where the priotity is themselves! Conflict of interests are round every corner and BADSUF investigate and then never do anything. Its about time that the echo investigated what really goes on with the money set to tackle drugs and how successful they are. Now that would make a news story! Dibbles2

6:49pm Tue 12 Jun 12

mmm2008 says...

wallydown wrote:
Anarmslength wrote:
The Echo was speaking to one woman when she stopped a passing Dave Wells van mid-interview.

She told the van driver: “There’s smackheads injecting in our toilet again.” ...... wasn't it Mr Wells who invited all the "smackheads" here in the first place? He couldn't care less who injects what in his toilets as the majority of his income is guaranteed from Bournemouth Council.
Honestly ,people like you annoy me!
So besides accommodation that the government have failed to provide Dave Wells also has to do the job of the police ? I dont know the figures but the suggestion is that Dave Wells houses 2000 people. I think its probably more - hes not a bloody social worker.he takes on the rubbish nobody else wants so why shouldnt he be financially rewarded for that? If he turfed them all out it would really cost this council a fortune to provide an alternative.
so hes a multimillionaire ,so what ,i dont consider that hes a flash individual and many years ago i lived in his places and was very grateful for it,ive never had a problem with him and he worked long hours then and probably still does - riches earned and well deserved. If he is now enjoying the spoils of a lifes work then so be it.
this childs observations of boscombe reflect what we all know about this area ,efforts are being made to change it but the problems are deep rooted and i dont think they will ever do more than control it on a basic level . If you dont like boscombe there is only one solution ,you have to move .the people who live in that area and have various issues are there because they have a network that supports their problem and they dont want that broken up and realistically nor do the authorities its better to know where these people are and have some access to them in one place . A lot of the people living in boscombe really are struggling with their lives and you wouldnt want to be there !!
My sister went out with a member of the Wells family who carried a baseball bat in his car to collect rent! So glad this family have hit the big time. Crime pays.
[quote][p][bold]wallydown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anarmslength[/bold] wrote: The Echo was speaking to one woman when she stopped a passing Dave Wells van mid-interview. She told the van driver: “There’s smackheads injecting in our toilet again.” ...... wasn't it Mr Wells who invited all the "smackheads" here in the first place? He couldn't care less who injects what in his toilets as the majority of his income is guaranteed from Bournemouth Council.[/p][/quote]Honestly ,people like you annoy me! So besides accommodation that the government have failed to provide Dave Wells also has to do the job of the police ? I dont know the figures but the suggestion is that Dave Wells houses 2000 people. I think its probably more - hes not a bloody social worker.he takes on the rubbish nobody else wants so why shouldnt he be financially rewarded for that? If he turfed them all out it would really cost this council a fortune to provide an alternative. so hes a multimillionaire ,so what ,i dont consider that hes a flash individual and many years ago i lived in his places and was very grateful for it,ive never had a problem with him and he worked long hours then and probably still does - riches earned and well deserved. If he is now enjoying the spoils of a lifes work then so be it. this childs observations of boscombe reflect what we all know about this area ,efforts are being made to change it but the problems are deep rooted and i dont think they will ever do more than control it on a basic level . If you dont like boscombe there is only one solution ,you have to move .the people who live in that area and have various issues are there because they have a network that supports their problem and they dont want that broken up and realistically nor do the authorities its better to know where these people are and have some access to them in one place . A lot of the people living in boscombe really are struggling with their lives and you wouldnt want to be there !![/p][/quote]My sister went out with a member of the Wells family who carried a baseball bat in his car to collect rent! So glad this family have hit the big time. Crime pays. mmm2008

6:49pm Tue 12 Jun 12

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH says...

Desperado wrote:
ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote:
Nothing has changed in the past 12 years of being here. The Police need to grow some balls like in the USA. Over there you go to jail for loitering!
They are far to busy , with the easy task of catching motorists going 2 mph over the speed limit.
And I agree with the comment from ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH .
Have you seen the way they pussyfoot around the scum that are a law unto themselves , when they set up camp on playing fields and so on.
I don't know what the police force is coming too , they are not doing themselves any favours , one day honest folk will have had enough , and take the law into their own hands .
Then look out ...........
Time and time again have I witnessed the Police walking up, yet just talking to, the daily gathering of drunks, louts and posses that congregate outside McDonald's in Boscombe.

Do they (the Police) have no backbone?
[quote][p][bold]Desperado[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: Nothing has changed in the past 12 years of being here. The Police need to grow some balls like in the USA. Over there you go to jail for loitering![/p][/quote]They are far to busy , with the easy task of catching motorists going 2 mph over the speed limit. And I agree with the comment from ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH . Have you seen the way they pussyfoot around the scum that are a law unto themselves , when they set up camp on playing fields and so on. I don't know what the police force is coming too , they are not doing themselves any favours , one day honest folk will have had enough , and take the law into their own hands . Then look out ...........[/p][/quote]Time and time again have I witnessed the Police walking up, yet just talking to, the daily gathering of drunks, louts and posses that congregate outside McDonald's in Boscombe. Do they (the Police) have no backbone? ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH

7:17pm Tue 12 Jun 12

wallydown says...

mmm2008 wrote:
wallydown wrote:
Anarmslength wrote:
The Echo was speaking to one woman when she stopped a passing Dave Wells van mid-interview.

She told the van driver: “There’s smackheads injecting in our toilet again.” ...... wasn't it Mr Wells who invited all the "smackheads" here in the first place? He couldn't care less who injects what in his toilets as the majority of his income is guaranteed from Bournemouth Council.
Honestly ,people like you annoy me!
So besides accommodation that the government have failed to provide Dave Wells also has to do the job of the police ? I dont know the figures but the suggestion is that Dave Wells houses 2000 people. I think its probably more - hes not a bloody social worker.he takes on the rubbish nobody else wants so why shouldnt he be financially rewarded for that? If he turfed them all out it would really cost this council a fortune to provide an alternative.
so hes a multimillionaire ,so what ,i dont consider that hes a flash individual and many years ago i lived in his places and was very grateful for it,ive never had a problem with him and he worked long hours then and probably still does - riches earned and well deserved. If he is now enjoying the spoils of a lifes work then so be it.
this childs observations of boscombe reflect what we all know about this area ,efforts are being made to change it but the problems are deep rooted and i dont think they will ever do more than control it on a basic level . If you dont like boscombe there is only one solution ,you have to move .the people who live in that area and have various issues are there because they have a network that supports their problem and they dont want that broken up and realistically nor do the authorities its better to know where these people are and have some access to them in one place . A lot of the people living in boscombe really are struggling with their lives and you wouldnt want to be there !!
My sister went out with a member of the Wells family who carried a baseball bat in his car to collect rent! So glad this family have hit the big time. Crime pays.
And that proves what point exactly? I wasnt nominating dave wells for a knighthood for his services to social housing and customer service . I think hes done a good job in difficult circumstances . He is probably the only landlord building new properties in this area. Im sure he deserves a degree of support for what he has done . If you allow the sort of people he takes on to get the upper hand they get out of hand very quickly so they need to know that it wont be tolerated - have you seen any problems with his tenants reported recently ? And i dont mean unbalanced documentrys . Most people who get a dig generally deserve it and that doesnt just apply to dave wells tenants ,its called survival of the fittest.
[quote][p][bold]mmm2008[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wallydown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anarmslength[/bold] wrote: The Echo was speaking to one woman when she stopped a passing Dave Wells van mid-interview. She told the van driver: “There’s smackheads injecting in our toilet again.” ...... wasn't it Mr Wells who invited all the "smackheads" here in the first place? He couldn't care less who injects what in his toilets as the majority of his income is guaranteed from Bournemouth Council.[/p][/quote]Honestly ,people like you annoy me! So besides accommodation that the government have failed to provide Dave Wells also has to do the job of the police ? I dont know the figures but the suggestion is that Dave Wells houses 2000 people. I think its probably more - hes not a bloody social worker.he takes on the rubbish nobody else wants so why shouldnt he be financially rewarded for that? If he turfed them all out it would really cost this council a fortune to provide an alternative. so hes a multimillionaire ,so what ,i dont consider that hes a flash individual and many years ago i lived in his places and was very grateful for it,ive never had a problem with him and he worked long hours then and probably still does - riches earned and well deserved. If he is now enjoying the spoils of a lifes work then so be it. this childs observations of boscombe reflect what we all know about this area ,efforts are being made to change it but the problems are deep rooted and i dont think they will ever do more than control it on a basic level . If you dont like boscombe there is only one solution ,you have to move .the people who live in that area and have various issues are there because they have a network that supports their problem and they dont want that broken up and realistically nor do the authorities its better to know where these people are and have some access to them in one place . A lot of the people living in boscombe really are struggling with their lives and you wouldnt want to be there !![/p][/quote]My sister went out with a member of the Wells family who carried a baseball bat in his car to collect rent! So glad this family have hit the big time. Crime pays.[/p][/quote]And that proves what point exactly? I wasnt nominating dave wells for a knighthood for his services to social housing and customer service . I think hes done a good job in difficult circumstances . He is probably the only landlord building new properties in this area. Im sure he deserves a degree of support for what he has done . If you allow the sort of people he takes on to get the upper hand they get out of hand very quickly so they need to know that it wont be tolerated - have you seen any problems with his tenants reported recently ? And i dont mean unbalanced documentrys . Most people who get a dig generally deserve it and that doesnt just apply to dave wells tenants ,its called survival of the fittest. wallydown

7:18pm Tue 12 Jun 12

s-pb2 says...

Ive lived in Boscombe for many years and have seen a distinct downturn in the last 5 years or so. Yes it had problems before then, but they seem to be getting worse by the month. I dont blame the police, but rather the system. The police are out there in both uniform and plain clothes (wearing ear pieces). The police arent going to arrest someone being a bit drunk outside MacDonalds because they will spend the rest of the day processing the prisoner. If you spoke to a police officer and ask whats the biggest pain in the bum, its the paperwork that comes with arresting someone, it takes far too long, and prevents police from getting back out there.

The blame goes to a succession of various governments going back to the 80s and council administrations who have had no real stomach to deal with those who have no desire to make anything of themselves, and not made any effort into making Boscombe a great place to live, which it was many years ago.

Yet again i see calls for legalising drugs. What a stupid idea! What would it solve exactly? How would drugs be distributed? Would drugs be made more readily available? If so, think of the impact it would have on our NHS and our Children's Social Care Services with parents far too dependent on drugs to look after their own children!

The fact is no one with any influence will do anything with Boscombe, and will leave it to rot. All the police can do with their resources is put cotton wool on gaping wounds. The people of Boscombe are not deprived. The majority still have their massive TV's and iPhones and yet will claim every benefit available.
Ive lived in Boscombe for many years and have seen a distinct downturn in the last 5 years or so. Yes it had problems before then, but they seem to be getting worse by the month. I dont blame the police, but rather the system. The police are out there in both uniform and plain clothes (wearing ear pieces). The police arent going to arrest someone being a bit drunk outside MacDonalds because they will spend the rest of the day processing the prisoner. If you spoke to a police officer and ask whats the biggest pain in the bum, its the paperwork that comes with arresting someone, it takes far too long, and prevents police from getting back out there. The blame goes to a succession of various governments going back to the 80s and council administrations who have had no real stomach to deal with those who have no desire to make anything of themselves, and not made any effort into making Boscombe a great place to live, which it was many years ago. Yet again i see calls for legalising drugs. What a stupid idea! What would it solve exactly? How would drugs be distributed? Would drugs be made more readily available? If so, think of the impact it would have on our NHS and our Children's Social Care Services with parents far too dependent on drugs to look after their own children! The fact is no one with any influence will do anything with Boscombe, and will leave it to rot. All the police can do with their resources is put cotton wool on gaping wounds. The people of Boscombe are not deprived. The majority still have their massive TV's and iPhones and yet will claim every benefit available. s-pb2

7:34pm Tue 12 Jun 12

pete woodley says...

Can anyone tell me why parents would let their kids watch what went on ?.
Can anyone tell me why parents would let their kids watch what went on ?. pete woodley

8:04pm Tue 12 Jun 12

LordLilliput says...

My god, they're basing a 'bash Boscombe' story on the scribblings of a 10 year old now..

He's TEN, he's a CHILD with no doubt a vivid imagination as most kids have. Children are like that - they see something, hear something - they draw it. I doubt he sees it everyday as reported.

And I'm trying to picture the moment the father got home from work, saw the picture and was straight on the phone to The Echo saying something like 'My sons drawn a picture.. I don't like it.. You'd better get over here straight away..'

Laughably - they did!
My god, they're basing a 'bash Boscombe' story on the scribblings of a 10 year old now.. He's TEN, he's a CHILD with no doubt a vivid imagination as most kids have. Children are like that - they see something, hear something - they draw it. I doubt he sees it everyday as reported. And I'm trying to picture the moment the father got home from work, saw the picture and was straight on the phone to The Echo saying something like 'My sons drawn a picture.. I don't like it.. You'd better get over here straight away..' Laughably - they did! LordLilliput

8:37pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Football banning order yob says...

Bos-scum **** hole of a area, full of crack heads, prozzies, and general scum of the earth. Feel sorry for the lad who see's this everyday.. About time the police over here were armed and feared once more.. The country's become a nanny state. These wasters life should be sent to France!
Bos-scum **** hole of a area, full of crack heads, prozzies, and general scum of the earth. Feel sorry for the lad who see's this everyday.. About time the police over here were armed and feared once more.. The country's become a nanny state. These wasters life should be sent to France! Football banning order yob

8:52pm Tue 12 Jun 12

scouserdavewells says...

I live in canford cliffs, I used to live in churchill gardens, got out of there years ago, full of scallywags and jocks and scouser scroungers,
I live in canford cliffs, I used to live in churchill gardens, got out of there years ago, full of scallywags and jocks and scouser scroungers, scouserdavewells

9:03pm Tue 12 Jun 12

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH says...

LordLilliput wrote:
My god, they're basing a 'bash Boscombe' story on the scribblings of a 10 year old now..

He's TEN, he's a CHILD with no doubt a vivid imagination as most kids have. Children are like that - they see something, hear something - they draw it. I doubt he sees it everyday as reported.

And I'm trying to picture the moment the father got home from work, saw the picture and was straight on the phone to The Echo saying something like 'My sons drawn a picture.. I don't like it.. You'd better get over here straight away..'

Laughably - they did!
someone with their head in the clouds.
[quote][p][bold]LordLilliput[/bold] wrote: My god, they're basing a 'bash Boscombe' story on the scribblings of a 10 year old now.. He's TEN, he's a CHILD with no doubt a vivid imagination as most kids have. Children are like that - they see something, hear something - they draw it. I doubt he sees it everyday as reported. And I'm trying to picture the moment the father got home from work, saw the picture and was straight on the phone to The Echo saying something like 'My sons drawn a picture.. I don't like it.. You'd better get over here straight away..' Laughably - they did![/p][/quote]someone with their head in the clouds. ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH

9:05pm Tue 12 Jun 12

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH says...

Football banning order yob wrote:
Bos-scum **** hole of a area, full of crack heads, prozzies, and general scum of the earth. Feel sorry for the lad who see's this everyday.. About time the police over here were armed and feared once more.. The country's become a nanny state. These wasters life should be sent to France!
France has a lot more respectable and nicer places than many areas in England. What an idiotic (hooligan?) comment!
[quote][p][bold]Football banning order yob[/bold] wrote: Bos-scum **** hole of a area, full of crack heads, prozzies, and general scum of the earth. Feel sorry for the lad who see's this everyday.. About time the police over here were armed and feared once more.. The country's become a nanny state. These wasters life should be sent to France![/p][/quote]France has a lot more respectable and nicer places than many areas in England. What an idiotic (hooligan?) comment! ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH

9:05pm Tue 12 Jun 12

High Treason says...

BigBadPhil wrote:
This story really is stupid .... how about what a 1o year old boy draws from his wooden hut in Africa ... did he really see all this from his window .. if so then his father needs to get a grip on life and move to a better area .. but I still expect if the boy did another drawing from his window the same items would come up .. prehaps from the films and tv that he is allowed to watch which really is not suitable ... come on does he really see ' ladys of the night ' stuffing money down their knickers .. most of the girls in that area dont even wear knickers !!
"most of the girls in that area dont even wear knickers"

You know that because ... ... .......... .... .....
[quote][p][bold]BigBadPhil[/bold] wrote: This story really is stupid .... how about what a 1o year old boy draws from his wooden hut in Africa ... did he really see all this from his window .. if so then his father needs to get a grip on life and move to a better area .. but I still expect if the boy did another drawing from his window the same items would come up .. prehaps from the films and tv that he is allowed to watch which really is not suitable ... come on does he really see ' ladys of the night ' stuffing money down their knickers .. most of the girls in that area dont even wear knickers !![/p][/quote]"most of the girls in that area dont even wear knickers" You know that because ... ... .......... .... ..... High Treason

9:39pm Tue 12 Jun 12

LordLilliput says...

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote:
LordLilliput wrote:
My god, they're basing a 'bash Boscombe' story on the scribblings of a 10 year old now..

He's TEN, he's a CHILD with no doubt a vivid imagination as most kids have. Children are like that - they see something, hear something - they draw it. I doubt he sees it everyday as reported.

And I'm trying to picture the moment the father got home from work, saw the picture and was straight on the phone to The Echo saying something like 'My sons drawn a picture.. I don't like it.. You'd better get over here straight away..'

Laughably - they did!
someone with their head in the clouds.
Not at all. I am not disputing the problems Boscombe faces and needs to address. I am simply questioning why The Echo needs to write a story based upon a child's sketch (that's the crux of the article) and why that child's father deems it necessary to exploit his son's obvious vulnerability to the press.

How does that make me out of touch?
[quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordLilliput[/bold] wrote: My god, they're basing a 'bash Boscombe' story on the scribblings of a 10 year old now.. He's TEN, he's a CHILD with no doubt a vivid imagination as most kids have. Children are like that - they see something, hear something - they draw it. I doubt he sees it everyday as reported. And I'm trying to picture the moment the father got home from work, saw the picture and was straight on the phone to The Echo saying something like 'My sons drawn a picture.. I don't like it.. You'd better get over here straight away..' Laughably - they did![/p][/quote]someone with their head in the clouds.[/p][/quote]Not at all. I am not disputing the problems Boscombe faces and needs to address. I am simply questioning why The Echo needs to write a story based upon a child's sketch (that's the crux of the article) and why that child's father deems it necessary to exploit his son's obvious vulnerability to the press. How does that make me out of touch? LordLilliput

9:54pm Tue 12 Jun 12

ILoveBoscombe says...

Afcblees wrote:
Some of you people make me laugh,I was born in Bosc hospital lived in southbourne most of my life till early teens then lived in rented accom with my partner in sthbourne,pokesdown and boscombe. It's easy to move from one place to another when renting but we have now finally bought our own house in boscombe near Gloucester rd we don't have any problems as yet just the odd slanging match from neighbours down the road, but nothing any normal st has,I feel sorry for those that live near to st Clements rd area but we feel that boscombe is ideal for us the sea,kings park footy stadium all we need on our door step,hard work and more neighbour hood watch scheme will drown these Sally's out.
Couldn't agree more
[quote][p][bold]Afcblees[/bold] wrote: Some of you people make me laugh,I was born in Bosc hospital lived in southbourne most of my life till early teens then lived in rented accom with my partner in sthbourne,pokesdown and boscombe. It's easy to move from one place to another when renting but we have now finally bought our own house in boscombe near Gloucester rd we don't have any problems as yet just the odd slanging match from neighbours down the road, but nothing any normal st has,I feel sorry for those that live near to st Clements rd area but we feel that boscombe is ideal for us the sea,kings park footy stadium all we need on our door step,hard work and more neighbour hood watch scheme will drown these Sally's out.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more ILoveBoscombe

10:29pm Tue 12 Jun 12

BmthNewshound says...

This story has now made the national press. The picture is reproduced in the Daily Mail which has an article which includes the following :
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“Once Boscombe was the chosen destination for the well-heeled Victorians who erected large churches as a signpost for their morals.

But now the prostitutes, drug addicts and general violence have become major issues, despite valiant efforts to improve the area through investment and charity.”
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One reader commented :
"I always thought bournemouth was a genteel little town... it must have gone downhill since I went there as a kid"
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It seems whenever Bournemouth gets mentioned in the press its for something negative... Porngate, the reef, now our towns social problems are laid bear.... How much longer is Bournemouth Council going to sit back and watch the town decline.
This story has now made the national press. The picture is reproduced in the Daily Mail which has an article which includes the following : . “Once Boscombe was the chosen destination for the well-heeled Victorians who erected large churches as a signpost for their morals. But now the prostitutes, drug addicts and general violence have become major issues, despite valiant efforts to improve the area through investment and charity.” . One reader commented : "I always thought bournemouth was a genteel little town... it must have gone downhill since I went there as a kid" . It seems whenever Bournemouth gets mentioned in the press its for something negative... Porngate, the reef, now our towns social problems are laid bear.... How much longer is Bournemouth Council going to sit back and watch the town decline. BmthNewshound

11:30pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Dibbles2 says...

|I used to live in Windham Road when my 15 year old son was on his way to the video shop and was prpositioned by a hooker. He thought fast produced his blockbuster card and shouted "vice squad! Get down on the floor!" Needless to same her and her dirty pimp who was hiding in gate a few doors away ran off and we moved! Not every one is fortunate enough to be able to move.
|I used to live in Windham Road when my 15 year old son was on his way to the video shop and was prpositioned by a hooker. He thought fast produced his blockbuster card and shouted "vice squad! Get down on the floor!" Needless to same her and her dirty pimp who was hiding in gate a few doors away ran off and we moved! Not every one is fortunate enough to be able to move. Dibbles2

11:36pm Tue 12 Jun 12

mysticalshoelace says...

My god, they're basing a 'bash Boscombe' story on the scribblings of a 10 year old now..

He's TEN, he's a CHILD with no doubt a vivid imagination as most kids have. Children are like that - they see something, hear something - they draw it. I doubt he sees it everyday as reported.

If anything this child's drawings are played down, St Clement's Road is in reality far worse. There may be some nice parts of Boscombe but St Clement's Road, Walpole Road and the Crescent have to be the worst.

The place is crawling with prostitutes, druggies and drunks and there is fighting on the street. There are used needles, condoms, vomit and human excrement in the alley ways and people can be seen around the park drinking cans of cheap cider as early as 10 am.

Coincidently more than 3/4 of the properties in these 3 streets are owned by Dave Wells whose head quarters is also on St Clement's Road ...hmmm.
[quote]My god, they're basing a 'bash Boscombe' story on the scribblings of a 10 year old now.. He's TEN, he's a CHILD with no doubt a vivid imagination as most kids have. Children are like that - they see something, hear something - they draw it. I doubt he sees it everyday as reported. [/quote] If anything this child's drawings are played down, St Clement's Road is in reality far worse. There may be some nice parts of Boscombe but St Clement's Road, Walpole Road and the Crescent have to be the worst. The place is crawling with prostitutes, druggies and drunks and there is fighting on the street. There are used needles, condoms, vomit and human excrement in the alley ways and people can be seen around the park drinking cans of cheap cider as early as 10 am. Coincidently more than 3/4 of the properties in these 3 streets are owned by Dave Wells whose head quarters is also on St Clement's Road ...hmmm. mysticalshoelace

11:49pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Yankee1 says...

The 'powers that be' could change this if they had the will or the desire, but instead they cower before political correctness and pure indolence. Rather than throw good money after bad with botched surf reefs and surf 'pods', they must man up and create a zero tolerance policy toward the low lifes that seem to be drawn to Boscombe - a town with all of the advantages to become a beautiful part of Bournemouth. It takes will and a bit of courage, but it can be done. It is up to Boscombe to decide what it wants to be: a 'compromise', tipping its hat to lowlifes, or a family oriented part of Bournemouth?
The 'powers that be' could change this if they had the will or the desire, but instead they cower before political correctness and pure indolence. Rather than throw good money after bad with botched surf reefs and surf 'pods', they must man up and create a zero tolerance policy toward the low lifes that seem to be drawn to Boscombe - a town with all of the advantages to become a beautiful part of Bournemouth. It takes will and a bit of courage, but it can be done. It is up to Boscombe to decide what it wants to be: a 'compromise', tipping its hat to lowlifes, or a family oriented part of Bournemouth? Yankee1

12:44am Wed 13 Jun 12

Voguelady says...

This story is completely ridiculous and has been blown out of proportion. We all know what the Boscombe area is like and has been for many years.
Mr Wells is not the only landlord in this area and is currently supporting the Boscombe Regeneration Scheme. He also makes donations to local Schools, Charity Events and sponsors many well worth causes.
Many of his existing tenants who have moved into his new build properties and are extremely happy with their accomodation.
If you took the time to visit the Dave Wells Website you can see pictures and information on available accomodation and all the services and help which is available to his Tenants.
I understand that a certain ex councillor who has been campaigning against Mr Wells has a new man in her life, is it by any chance the writer of this article ? Perhaps the Echo should have contacted Dave Wells Properties before they printed such a one sided story !!!
This story is completely ridiculous and has been blown out of proportion. We all know what the Boscombe area is like and has been for many years. Mr Wells is not the only landlord in this area and is currently supporting the Boscombe Regeneration Scheme. He also makes donations to local Schools, Charity Events and sponsors many well worth causes. Many of his existing tenants who have moved into his new build properties and are extremely happy with their accomodation. If you took the time to visit the Dave Wells Website you can see pictures and information on available accomodation and all the services and help which is available to his Tenants. I understand that a certain ex councillor who has been campaigning against Mr Wells has a new man in her life, is it by any chance the writer of this article ? Perhaps the Echo should have contacted Dave Wells Properties before they printed such a one sided story !!! Voguelady

12:56am Wed 13 Jun 12

mysticalshoelace says...

LMPO
LMPO mysticalshoelace

7:32am Wed 13 Jun 12

Football banning order yob says...

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote:
Football banning order yob wrote:
Bos-scum **** hole of a area, full of crack heads, prozzies, and general scum of the earth. Feel sorry for the lad who see's this everyday.. About time the police over here were armed and feared once more.. The country's become a nanny state. These wasters life should be sent to France!
France has a lot more respectable and nicer places than many areas in England. What an idiotic (hooligan?) comment!
I hate the French. Simple. Now if you loved b'mouth that much you'd want this scum gone.
[quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Football banning order yob[/bold] wrote: Bos-scum **** hole of a area, full of crack heads, prozzies, and general scum of the earth. Feel sorry for the lad who see's this everyday.. About time the police over here were armed and feared once more.. The country's become a nanny state. These wasters life should be sent to France![/p][/quote]France has a lot more respectable and nicer places than many areas in England. What an idiotic (hooligan?) comment![/p][/quote]I hate the French. Simple. Now if you loved b'mouth that much you'd want this scum gone. Football banning order yob

8:27am Wed 13 Jun 12

domupchuck says...

This is not news and is also an appallingly poor choice of front page space. Boscombe in so many ways is a much better place than it was 10 years ago and is only getting better. I used to draw pictures probably not dissimilar to this when I was 10 years old and I grew up in Littledown.
This is not news and is also an appallingly poor choice of front page space. Boscombe in so many ways is a much better place than it was 10 years ago and is only getting better. I used to draw pictures probably not dissimilar to this when I was 10 years old and I grew up in Littledown. domupchuck

9:20am Wed 13 Jun 12

BournemouthMum says...

The answer is for all the nice decent people to move out of Boscombe and just leave it to those who want to destroy it. That way they can live in a dump of their own making and no one else will have to suffer.

I think it's too late to turn it around now. As others have said, the decline started with the Sovereign Centre and pedestrianisation. All the decent shops started to disappear one by one - Co-op Living, M&S, clothes and shoe shops, electrical shops and so on. There's nothing there anymore, no reason for anyone outside the area to even go near the place (apart from driving through of course). Just let those who choose to live there get on with it.

Oh and before someone says "it's expensive to move", yes it is, but if you REALLY want a better future for your children you would pull out all the stops to ensure they are brought up in a decent area - there's no excuse.
The answer is for all the nice decent people to move out of Boscombe and just leave it to those who want to destroy it. That way they can live in a dump of their own making and no one else will have to suffer. I think it's too late to turn it around now. As others have said, the decline started with the Sovereign Centre and pedestrianisation. All the decent shops started to disappear one by one - Co-op Living, M&S, clothes and shoe shops, electrical shops and so on. There's nothing there anymore, no reason for anyone outside the area to even go near the place (apart from driving through of course). Just let those who choose to live there get on with it. Oh and before someone says "it's expensive to move", yes it is, but if you REALLY want a better future for your children you would pull out all the stops to ensure they are brought up in a decent area - there's no excuse. BournemouthMum

9:27am Wed 13 Jun 12

BournemouthMum says...

Dibbles2 wrote:
|I used to live in Windham Road when my 15 year old son was on his way to the video shop and was prpositioned by a hooker. He thought fast produced his blockbuster card and shouted "vice squad! Get down on the floor!" Needless to same her and her dirty pimp who was hiding in gate a few doors away ran off and we moved! Not every one is fortunate enough to be able to move.
Lol!
[quote][p][bold]Dibbles2[/bold] wrote: |I used to live in Windham Road when my 15 year old son was on his way to the video shop and was prpositioned by a hooker. He thought fast produced his blockbuster card and shouted "vice squad! Get down on the floor!" Needless to same her and her dirty pimp who was hiding in gate a few doors away ran off and we moved! Not every one is fortunate enough to be able to move.[/p][/quote]Lol! BournemouthMum

9:37am Wed 13 Jun 12

*Fiona* says...

The situation in the area is directly attributable to Dave Wells.

Sadly he has what is known as a seared conscience.

His moral consciousness is insensitive he seems to be a bad man that has an inordinate love of money.

He was recently exposed as a rouge landlord on Channel 4 and he doesnt seem to be at all bothered.


Ive heard he has a terminal illness so I do feel rather sorry for him.
The situation in the area is directly attributable to Dave Wells. Sadly he has what is known as a seared conscience. His moral consciousness is insensitive he seems to be a bad man that has an inordinate love of money. He was recently exposed as a rouge landlord on Channel 4 and he doesnt seem to be at all bothered. Ive heard he has a terminal illness so I do feel rather sorry for him. *Fiona*

10:41am Wed 13 Jun 12

BIGTONE says...

My car has adequate acceleration when driving through Boscombe.
My car has adequate acceleration when driving through Boscombe. BIGTONE

10:45am Wed 13 Jun 12

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH says...

Football banning order yob wrote:
ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote:
Football banning order yob wrote:
Bos-scum **** hole of a area, full of crack heads, prozzies, and general scum of the earth. Feel sorry for the lad who see's this everyday.. About time the police over here were armed and feared once more.. The country's become a nanny state. These wasters life should be sent to France!
France has a lot more respectable and nicer places than many areas in England. What an idiotic (hooligan?) comment!
I hate the French. Simple. Now if you loved b'mouth that much you'd want this scum gone.
The French are more civilized than you will ever be! Why do you hate the French? What have they done to you? By the way I am English, but on many trips to France I have found them very pleasant, friendly and a lot safer than here in UK.

You hate the French? Why?
[quote][p][bold]Football banning order yob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Football banning order yob[/bold] wrote: Bos-scum **** hole of a area, full of crack heads, prozzies, and general scum of the earth. Feel sorry for the lad who see's this everyday.. About time the police over here were armed and feared once more.. The country's become a nanny state. These wasters life should be sent to France![/p][/quote]France has a lot more respectable and nicer places than many areas in England. What an idiotic (hooligan?) comment![/p][/quote]I hate the French. Simple. Now if you loved b'mouth that much you'd want this scum gone.[/p][/quote]The French are more civilized than you will ever be! Why do you hate the French? What have they done to you? By the way I am English, but on many trips to France I have found them very pleasant, friendly and a lot safer than here in UK. You hate the French? Why? ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH

10:46am Wed 13 Jun 12

Anarmslength says...

wallydown wrote:
Anarmslength wrote:
The Echo was speaking to one woman when she stopped a passing Dave Wells van mid-interview.

She told the van driver: “There’s smackheads injecting in our toilet again.” ...... wasn't it Mr Wells who invited all the "smackheads" here in the first place? He couldn't care less who injects what in his toilets as the majority of his income is guaranteed from Bournemouth Council.
Honestly ,people like you annoy me!
So besides accommodation that the government have failed to provide Dave Wells also has to do the job of the police ? I dont know the figures but the suggestion is that Dave Wells houses 2000 people. I think its probably more - hes not a bloody social worker.he takes on the rubbish nobody else wants so why shouldnt he be financially rewarded for that? If he turfed them all out it would really cost this council a fortune to provide an alternative.
so hes a multimillionaire ,so what ,i dont consider that hes a flash individual and many years ago i lived in his places and was very grateful for it,ive never had a problem with him and he worked long hours then and probably still does - riches earned and well deserved. If he is now enjoying the spoils of a lifes work then so be it.
this childs observations of boscombe reflect what we all know about this area ,efforts are being made to change it but the problems are deep rooted and i dont think they will ever do more than control it on a basic level . If you dont like boscombe there is only one solution ,you have to move .the people who live in that area and have various issues are there because they have a network that supports their problem and they dont want that broken up and realistically nor do the authorities its better to know where these people are and have some access to them in one place . A lot of the people living in boscombe really are struggling with their lives and you wouldnt want to be there !!
You have completely missed my point. The so called undesirable element are here BECAUSE of Mr Wells, that was the point I was making and no of course he isn't a social worker nor does he have to be but he has carried out social engineering by buying houses and turning them into bedsits, then filling them with people likely to "lower the tone" of the area in order to devalue properties so they are cheaper for him to buy when the locals have finally had enough and decide to move. However I agree with a lot of the points you made. I live in Boscombe and I like it. There are far worse places to live, I know because I've lived in some of them. Anyway I'm now beginning to think this picture wasn't actually drawn by a child.
[quote][p][bold]wallydown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anarmslength[/bold] wrote: The Echo was speaking to one woman when she stopped a passing Dave Wells van mid-interview. She told the van driver: “There’s smackheads injecting in our toilet again.” ...... wasn't it Mr Wells who invited all the "smackheads" here in the first place? He couldn't care less who injects what in his toilets as the majority of his income is guaranteed from Bournemouth Council.[/p][/quote]Honestly ,people like you annoy me! So besides accommodation that the government have failed to provide Dave Wells also has to do the job of the police ? I dont know the figures but the suggestion is that Dave Wells houses 2000 people. I think its probably more - hes not a bloody social worker.he takes on the rubbish nobody else wants so why shouldnt he be financially rewarded for that? If he turfed them all out it would really cost this council a fortune to provide an alternative. so hes a multimillionaire ,so what ,i dont consider that hes a flash individual and many years ago i lived in his places and was very grateful for it,ive never had a problem with him and he worked long hours then and probably still does - riches earned and well deserved. If he is now enjoying the spoils of a lifes work then so be it. this childs observations of boscombe reflect what we all know about this area ,efforts are being made to change it but the problems are deep rooted and i dont think they will ever do more than control it on a basic level . If you dont like boscombe there is only one solution ,you have to move .the people who live in that area and have various issues are there because they have a network that supports their problem and they dont want that broken up and realistically nor do the authorities its better to know where these people are and have some access to them in one place . A lot of the people living in boscombe really are struggling with their lives and you wouldnt want to be there !![/p][/quote]You have completely missed my point. The so called undesirable element are here BECAUSE of Mr Wells, that was the point I was making and no of course he isn't a social worker nor does he have to be but he has carried out social engineering by buying houses and turning them into bedsits, then filling them with people likely to "lower the tone" of the area in order to devalue properties so they are cheaper for him to buy when the locals have finally had enough and decide to move. However I agree with a lot of the points you made. I live in Boscombe and I like it. There are far worse places to live, I know because I've lived in some of them. Anyway I'm now beginning to think this picture wasn't actually drawn by a child. Anarmslength

10:53am Wed 13 Jun 12

Bob49 says...

"Boscombe in so many ways is a much better place than it was 10 years ago and is only getting better."

Absolute nonsense

Whilst many on here may differ on what should be done, there is a consensus that the place is progressively getting worse year on year.

Absurd claims, as with idiot ideas on wasting money on railings and pointless initiatives, do more harm than good.

As long as there is still a financial incentive to bring in more addicts, drunks and 'problem' people then the deterioration will continue.

Stop that 'trade' and you will eventually clean up the area.
"Boscombe in so many ways is a much better place than it was 10 years ago and is only getting better." Absolute nonsense Whilst many on here may differ on what should be done, there is a consensus that the place is progressively getting worse year on year. Absurd claims, as with idiot ideas on wasting money on railings and pointless initiatives, do more harm than good. As long as there is still a financial incentive to bring in more addicts, drunks and 'problem' people then the deterioration will continue. Stop that 'trade' and you will eventually clean up the area. Bob49

11:34am Wed 13 Jun 12

*Fiona* says...

Ive seen that woman bottom right hand corner of the childs drawing.

She walks about in a bikini top and mini skirt in all weathers swigging a can of lager she looks really unhealthy shes obviously on crack.
Ive seen that woman bottom right hand corner of the childs drawing. She walks about in a bikini top and mini skirt in all weathers swigging a can of lager she looks really unhealthy shes obviously on crack. *Fiona*

11:46am Wed 13 Jun 12

Telscombe Cliffy says...

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote:
Football banning order yob wrote:
ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote:
Football banning order yob wrote:
Bos-scum **** hole of a area, full of crack heads, prozzies, and general scum of the earth. Feel sorry for the lad who see's this everyday.. About time the police over here were armed and feared once more.. The country's become a nanny state. These wasters life should be sent to France!
France has a lot more respectable and nicer places than many areas in England. What an idiotic (hooligan?) comment!
I hate the French. Simple. Now if you loved b'mouth that much you'd want this scum gone.
The French are more civilized than you will ever be! Why do you hate the French? What have they done to you? By the way I am English, but on many trips to France I have found them very pleasant, friendly and a lot safer than here in UK.

You hate the French? Why?
Yes why hate the French. Unless you've forgotten we were invaded and conquered by the Normans in 1066- or havent you heard yet? Just because you're on an Island no need to rubbish your ancestors now. We are basically French unless you were decended from the Vikings or Anglo Saxons.(Invaders as well). I've found the French nowadays have much more class than us and always helpful and polite to me. PS their food is better too, they fought long and hard to resist Mc Donalds getting a hold in France.
[quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Football banning order yob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Football banning order yob[/bold] wrote: Bos-scum **** hole of a area, full of crack heads, prozzies, and general scum of the earth. Feel sorry for the lad who see's this everyday.. About time the police over here were armed and feared once more.. The country's become a nanny state. These wasters life should be sent to France![/p][/quote]France has a lot more respectable and nicer places than many areas in England. What an idiotic (hooligan?) comment![/p][/quote]I hate the French. Simple. Now if you loved b'mouth that much you'd want this scum gone.[/p][/quote]The French are more civilized than you will ever be! Why do you hate the French? What have they done to you? By the way I am English, but on many trips to France I have found them very pleasant, friendly and a lot safer than here in UK. You hate the French? Why?[/p][/quote]Yes why hate the French. Unless you've forgotten we were invaded and conquered by the Normans in 1066- or havent you heard yet? Just because you're on an Island no need to rubbish your ancestors now. We are basically French unless you were decended from the Vikings or Anglo Saxons.(Invaders as well). I've found the French nowadays have much more class than us and always helpful and polite to me. PS their food is better too, they fought long and hard to resist Mc Donalds getting a hold in France. Telscombe Cliffy

11:48am Wed 13 Jun 12

Telscombe Cliffy says...

High Treason wrote:
BigBadPhil wrote:
This story really is stupid .... how about what a 1o year old boy draws from his wooden hut in Africa ... did he really see all this from his window .. if so then his father needs to get a grip on life and move to a better area .. but I still expect if the boy did another drawing from his window the same items would come up .. prehaps from the films and tv that he is allowed to watch which really is not suitable ... come on does he really see ' ladys of the night ' stuffing money down their knickers .. most of the girls in that area dont even wear knickers !!
"most of the girls in that area dont even wear knickers"

You know that because ... ... .......... .... .....
........Of the short skirts, obviously.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BigBadPhil[/bold] wrote: This story really is stupid .... how about what a 1o year old boy draws from his wooden hut in Africa ... did he really see all this from his window .. if so then his father needs to get a grip on life and move to a better area .. but I still expect if the boy did another drawing from his window the same items would come up .. prehaps from the films and tv that he is allowed to watch which really is not suitable ... come on does he really see ' ladys of the night ' stuffing money down their knickers .. most of the girls in that area dont even wear knickers !![/p][/quote]"most of the girls in that area dont even wear knickers" You know that because ... ... .......... .... .....[/p][/quote]........Of the short skirts, obviously. Telscombe Cliffy

12:03pm Wed 13 Jun 12

praelis says...

The sad truth of the matter is this kind of thing happens in every major town /city in england, if not the uk. Back in 1998 when my son was just 2 and a half, i had to teach him of the dangers of needles as we lived just round the corner from the crescent where at one time back then there used to be piles of syringes as well as beer cans liteering the little green space, which is strange cosidering there were 2 rehab centres within the vicinity. With regards to the 10 year old, they should not be really surprised at what they see as the council make only efforts to hide the problems or move them on, not actually sit down with the residents and deal with them.
The sad truth of the matter is this kind of thing happens in every major town /city in england, if not the uk. Back in 1998 when my son was just 2 and a half, i had to teach him of the dangers of needles as we lived just round the corner from the crescent where at one time back then there used to be piles of syringes as well as beer cans liteering the little green space, which is strange cosidering there were 2 rehab centres within the vicinity. With regards to the 10 year old, they should not be really surprised at what they see as the council make only efforts to hide the problems or move them on, not actually sit down with the residents and deal with them. praelis

12:09pm Wed 13 Jun 12

99telboy says...

I have been a Boscombe HMO owner for the past 28 years. The landlords in this area are in no way to blame. The drug users frequent this area purely as that is where there supplies are. Get rid of the dealers and the druggies will go elsewhere, and take the associated problems of crime with them.
The solution lies directly with the police. If they mounted a constant harrassment campaign against all drug users and dealers ( rather like their consistent harrassment of motorists to finance their ludicrously profitable "Driver Awareness Courses" ) for 6 months the problem would decrease massively. Bournemouth is primarily a seaside resort and has massive potential , but the druggie society must be positively discouraged from coming here in the first place.
I have been a Boscombe HMO owner for the past 28 years. The landlords in this area are in no way to blame. The drug users frequent this area purely as that is where there supplies are. Get rid of the dealers and the druggies will go elsewhere, and take the associated problems of crime with them. The solution lies directly with the police. If they mounted a constant harrassment campaign against all drug users and dealers ( rather like their consistent harrassment of motorists to finance their ludicrously profitable "Driver Awareness Courses" ) for 6 months the problem would decrease massively. Bournemouth is primarily a seaside resort and has massive potential , but the druggie society must be positively discouraged from coming here in the first place. 99telboy

1:17pm Wed 13 Jun 12

mysticalshoelace says...

HMO's are for people with problems, put too many HMO's in a small area and you're left with a big PROBLEM.
HMO's are for people with problems, put too many HMO's in a small area and you're left with a big PROBLEM. mysticalshoelace

1:33pm Wed 13 Jun 12

mysticalshoelace says...

If anyone still thinks this is a nice area take a look at the crime statistics provided by the police http://www.police.uk
/crime/?q=Bournemout
h%20BH1%204DZ,%20UK#
crimetypes/2012-04
to compare with other areas just drag the red marker on the map.
If anyone still thinks this is a nice area take a look at the crime statistics provided by the police http://www.police.uk /crime/?q=Bournemout h%20BH1%204DZ,%20UK# crimetypes/2012-04 to compare with other areas just drag the red marker on the map. mysticalshoelace

2:17pm Wed 13 Jun 12

stevobath says...

praelis wrote:
The sad truth of the matter is this kind of thing happens in every major town /city in england, if not the uk. Back in 1998 when my son was just 2 and a half, i had to teach him of the dangers of needles as we lived just round the corner from the crescent where at one time back then there used to be piles of syringes as well as beer cans liteering the little green space, which is strange cosidering there were 2 rehab centres within the vicinity. With regards to the 10 year old, they should not be really surprised at what they see as the council make only efforts to hide the problems or move them on, not actually sit down with the residents and deal with them.
What a stupid comment.
Go to any re-hab & you will find regular testing.Anyone found taking drugs will be out.
The needles being thrown around are likely to come from people whove lived in the area for years not someone who stays in a rehab for 3 months & then goes back home.a large proportion of rehab clients come from the South East/London.
Once again the Echo Boscombe bashing...I suppose the kid & his Dad have got their 15 minutes of fame!

Questions should be asked of the Council & why its constantly allowed Boscombe to die? Its about competing with the Town Centre.Boscombes 'Golden Mile' was a favourite area for shopping in the 70s.It more than rivalled the Town Centre.The powers that be want Boscombe to run itself into the ground.
Knocking down 100s of good family homes to make way for a rubbish pedestrianised area was the start.
BEWARE SOUTHBOURNE is slowly heading the same way.In the end the only shopping area will be the Town Centre,just as the rich & influential in the Council & business want.
As for Dave Wells? Funny how everyone starts moaning about him now, just cause of a CH 4 prog...There have been people whove complained about Mr Wells 'methods' etc for years. Hes been allowed to get away with charging max rent for the smallest amount of outlay.However to suggest its just people on benefits that rent from him is rubbish.Although expensive he is still the only Lanlord that some on low pay can afford.I myself was one.I worked in a Nursing Home for over 10 yrs & his accomodation was all I could afford.It was that or live in a tent! He charged extra for electric & it took months for him to fix a leaking roof.The massive & beautiful garden at the property was soon turned into garages by him,which the Council allowed.Obviously it helps to bend the rules & the Law when in the property renting business.I did actually send some interesting info to the Echo regarding Mr Wells way of getting rid of sitting tenants.Of course the Echo werent interested.No just bash Boscombe & create a negative image for THE WHOLE OF THE TOWN.Talk about 'Shooting Onesel In The Foot'! WELL DONE ECHO!
[quote][p][bold]praelis[/bold] wrote: The sad truth of the matter is this kind of thing happens in every major town /city in england, if not the uk. Back in 1998 when my son was just 2 and a half, i had to teach him of the dangers of needles as we lived just round the corner from the crescent where at one time back then there used to be piles of syringes as well as beer cans liteering the little green space, which is strange cosidering there were 2 rehab centres within the vicinity. With regards to the 10 year old, they should not be really surprised at what they see as the council make only efforts to hide the problems or move them on, not actually sit down with the residents and deal with them.[/p][/quote]What a stupid comment. Go to any re-hab & you will find regular testing.Anyone found taking drugs will be out. The needles being thrown around are likely to come from people whove lived in the area for years not someone who stays in a rehab for 3 months & then goes back home.a large proportion of rehab clients come from the South East/London. Once again the Echo Boscombe bashing...I suppose the kid & his Dad have got their 15 minutes of fame! Questions should be asked of the Council & why its constantly allowed Boscombe to die? Its about competing with the Town Centre.Boscombes 'Golden Mile' was a favourite area for shopping in the 70s.It more than rivalled the Town Centre.The powers that be want Boscombe to run itself into the ground. Knocking down 100s of good family homes to make way for a rubbish pedestrianised area was the start. BEWARE SOUTHBOURNE is slowly heading the same way.In the end the only shopping area will be the Town Centre,just as the rich & influential in the Council & business want. As for Dave Wells? Funny how everyone starts moaning about him now, just cause of a CH 4 prog...There have been people whove complained about Mr Wells 'methods' etc for years. Hes been allowed to get away with charging max rent for the smallest amount of outlay.However to suggest its just people on benefits that rent from him is rubbish.Although expensive he is still the only Lanlord that some on low pay can afford.I myself was one.I worked in a Nursing Home for over 10 yrs & his accomodation was all I could afford.It was that or live in a tent! He charged extra for electric & it took months for him to fix a leaking roof.The massive & beautiful garden at the property was soon turned into garages by him,which the Council allowed.Obviously it helps to bend the rules & the Law when in the property renting business.I did actually send some interesting info to the Echo regarding Mr Wells way of getting rid of sitting tenants.Of course the Echo werent interested.No just bash Boscombe & create a negative image for THE WHOLE OF THE TOWN.Talk about 'Shooting Onesel In The Foot'! WELL DONE ECHO! stevobath

2:59pm Wed 13 Jun 12

Bob49 says...

mysticalshoelace wrote:
HMO's are for people with problems, put too many HMO's in a small area and you're left with a big PROBLEM.
HMOS's are a consequence of the problem, NOT the cause.

Remove the cause and HMO's and all the other squalid housing will be upgraded.

Stop Boscombe being the dumping ground for the country's 'problem' folk. Do that by stopping landlords making a huge sums from renting slum housing at premium prices - paid for by the taxpayer.
[quote][p][bold]mysticalshoelace[/bold] wrote: HMO's are for people with problems, put too many HMO's in a small area and you're left with a big PROBLEM.[/p][/quote]HMOS's are a consequence of the problem, NOT the cause. Remove the cause and HMO's and all the other squalid housing will be upgraded. Stop Boscombe being the dumping ground for the country's 'problem' folk. Do that by stopping landlords making a huge sums from renting slum housing at premium prices - paid for by the taxpayer. Bob49

3:37pm Wed 13 Jun 12

delta3 says...

What a stupid comment.
Go to any re-hab & you will find regular testing.Anyone found taking drugs will be out.
The needles being thrown around are likely to come from people whove lived in the area for years not someone who stays in a rehab for 3 months & then goes back home.a large proportion of rehab clients come from the South East/London.

Where do you think these people then go when they fail the daily testing regime? Back home? No they then become residents and then need to find cheap basic housing ......enter DW & co. I used to live and work in Boscombe but when my youngest kept pointing out discarded sharpes I moved (10 years ago) Boscomites are not all bad but I would ask the Police to leave their vehicles more often! If I can sit in Macdonalds and witness dealers in action why can't the Police? If I was a no-good dealer of death products surely setting up in an area full of potential victims, just going into, in or just out of re-hab would be lucrative?
What a stupid comment. Go to any re-hab & you will find regular testing.Anyone found taking drugs will be out. The needles being thrown around are likely to come from people whove lived in the area for years not someone who stays in a rehab for 3 months & then goes back home.a large proportion of rehab clients come from the South East/London. Where do you think these people then go when they fail the daily testing regime? Back home? No they then become residents and then need to find cheap basic housing ......enter DW & co. I used to live and work in Boscombe but when my youngest kept pointing out discarded sharpes I moved (10 years ago) Boscomites are not all bad but I would ask the Police to leave their vehicles more often! If I can sit in Macdonalds and witness dealers in action why can't the Police? If I was a no-good dealer of death products surely setting up in an area full of potential victims, just going into, in or just out of re-hab would be lucrative? delta3

4:10pm Wed 13 Jun 12

*Fiona* says...

Voguelady wrote:
This story is completely ridiculous and has been blown out of proportion. We all know what the Boscombe area is like and has been for many years.
Mr Wells is not the only landlord in this area and is currently supporting the Boscombe Regeneration Scheme. He also makes donations to local Schools, Charity Events and sponsors many well worth causes.
Many of his existing tenants who have moved into his new build properties and are extremely happy with their accomodation.
If you took the time to visit the Dave Wells Website you can see pictures and information on available accomodation and all the services and help which is available to his Tenants.
I understand that a certain ex councillor who has been campaigning against Mr Wells has a new man in her life, is it by any chance the writer of this article ? Perhaps the Echo should have contacted Dave Wells Properties before they printed such a one sided story !!!
"I understand that a certain ex councillor who has been campaigning against Mr Wells has a new man in her life, is it by any chance the writer of this article ?"


Is Lisa in a relationship with Stephen Bailey?
[quote][p][bold]Voguelady[/bold] wrote: This story is completely ridiculous and has been blown out of proportion. We all know what the Boscombe area is like and has been for many years. Mr Wells is not the only landlord in this area and is currently supporting the Boscombe Regeneration Scheme. He also makes donations to local Schools, Charity Events and sponsors many well worth causes. Many of his existing tenants who have moved into his new build properties and are extremely happy with their accomodation. If you took the time to visit the Dave Wells Website you can see pictures and information on available accomodation and all the services and help which is available to his Tenants. I understand that a certain ex councillor who has been campaigning against Mr Wells has a new man in her life, is it by any chance the writer of this article ? Perhaps the Echo should have contacted Dave Wells Properties before they printed such a one sided story !!![/p][/quote]"I understand that a certain ex councillor who has been campaigning against Mr Wells has a new man in her life, is it by any chance the writer of this article ?" Is Lisa in a relationship with Stephen Bailey? *Fiona*

6:29pm Wed 13 Jun 12

BmthNewshound says...

*Fiona* wrote:
Voguelady wrote:
This story is completely ridiculous and has been blown out of proportion. We all know what the Boscombe area is like and has been for many years.
Mr Wells is not the only landlord in this area and is currently supporting the Boscombe Regeneration Scheme. He also makes donations to local Schools, Charity Events and sponsors many well worth causes.
Many of his existing tenants who have moved into his new build properties and are extremely happy with their accomodation.
If you took the time to visit the Dave Wells Website you can see pictures and information on available accomodation and all the services and help which is available to his Tenants.
I understand that a certain ex councillor who has been campaigning against Mr Wells has a new man in her life, is it by any chance the writer of this article ? Perhaps the Echo should have contacted Dave Wells Properties before they printed such a one sided story !!!
"I understand that a certain ex councillor who has been campaigning against Mr Wells has a new man in her life, is it by any chance the writer of this article ?"


Is Lisa in a relationship with Stephen Bailey?
Fiona, you are obviously a very bitter and twisted woman who has personal issues with Mr Wells which have no relation to this article.
.
You clearly have no understanding of business. It is not in Mr Wells financial interest to see Boscombe decline. Run down, socially deprived area = low rents = low profits. Thats an economic fact which is miles away from your claims.
.
Mr Wells can't be held responsible for the conduct of his tenants neither is he responsible for the social, moral and economic delcine of Boscombe.
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[quote][p][bold]*Fiona*[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voguelady[/bold] wrote: This story is completely ridiculous and has been blown out of proportion. We all know what the Boscombe area is like and has been for many years. Mr Wells is not the only landlord in this area and is currently supporting the Boscombe Regeneration Scheme. He also makes donations to local Schools, Charity Events and sponsors many well worth causes. Many of his existing tenants who have moved into his new build properties and are extremely happy with their accomodation. If you took the time to visit the Dave Wells Website you can see pictures and information on available accomodation and all the services and help which is available to his Tenants. I understand that a certain ex councillor who has been campaigning against Mr Wells has a new man in her life, is it by any chance the writer of this article ? Perhaps the Echo should have contacted Dave Wells Properties before they printed such a one sided story !!![/p][/quote]"I understand that a certain ex councillor who has been campaigning against Mr Wells has a new man in her life, is it by any chance the writer of this article ?" Is Lisa in a relationship with Stephen Bailey?[/p][/quote]Fiona, you are obviously a very bitter and twisted woman who has personal issues with Mr Wells which have no relation to this article. . You clearly have no understanding of business. It is not in Mr Wells financial interest to see Boscombe decline. Run down, socially deprived area = low rents = low profits. Thats an economic fact which is miles away from your claims. . Mr Wells can't be held responsible for the conduct of his tenants neither is he responsible for the social, moral and economic delcine of Boscombe. . BmthNewshound

7:07pm Wed 13 Jun 12

makingsenseofitall says...

If a bedsit/HMO has no heating; no hot water; rain coming in; sewage coming into it and the Council are pay the rent on behalf of the tenant, who is to blame? The Government passed legislation, which puts the responsibility for that role onto local Councils.
If the Council did genuine property checks and enforced them (a fine of up to £20,000 can be issued to the landlord for non-compliance with the regulations), then the landlords would be forced to upgrade the properties to a reasonable living standard.
Mr. Wells and other landlords do not get low rent but high rents without investing in the property. When people live in better conditions, they behave better and all children deserve a decent home.
Its incomprehensible that Mr. Wells is now part of the Boscombe Regeneration Scheme, but it says a great deal about our Council.
If a bedsit/HMO has no heating; no hot water; rain coming in; sewage coming into it and the Council are pay the rent on behalf of the tenant, who is to blame? The Government passed legislation, which puts the responsibility for that role onto local Councils. If the Council did genuine property checks and enforced them (a fine of up to £20,000 can be issued to the landlord for non-compliance with the regulations), then the landlords would be forced to upgrade the properties to a reasonable living standard. Mr. Wells and other landlords do not get low rent but high rents without investing in the property. When people live in better conditions, they behave better and all children deserve a decent home. Its incomprehensible that Mr. Wells is now part of the Boscombe Regeneration Scheme, but it says a great deal about our Council. makingsenseofitall

7:58pm Wed 13 Jun 12

Football banning order yob says...

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote:
Football banning order yob wrote:
ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote:
Football banning order yob wrote:
Bos-scum **** hole of a area, full of crack heads, prozzies, and general scum of the earth. Feel sorry for the lad who see's this everyday.. About time the police over here were armed and feared once more.. The country's become a nanny state. These wasters life should be sent to France!
France has a lot more respectable and nicer places than many areas in England. What an idiotic (hooligan?) comment!
I hate the French. Simple. Now if you loved b'mouth that much you'd want this scum gone.
The French are more civilized than you will ever be! Why do you hate the French? What have they done to you? By the way I am English, but on many trips to France I have found them very pleasant, friendly and a lot safer than here in UK.

You hate the French? Why?
Yes why hate the French. Unless you've forgotten we were invaded and conquered by the Normans in 1066- or havent you heard yet? Just because you're on an Island no need to rubbish your ancestors now. We are basically French unless you were decended from the Vikings or Anglo Saxons.(Invaders as well). I've found the French nowadays have much more class than us and always helpful and polite to me. PS their food is better too, they fought long and hard to resist Mc Donalds getting a hold in France.
if its that good then why dont you bugger off over there as well..
[quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Football banning order yob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Football banning order yob[/bold] wrote: Bos-scum **** hole of a area, full of crack heads, prozzies, and general scum of the earth. Feel sorry for the lad who see's this everyday.. About time the police over here were armed and feared once more.. The country's become a nanny state. These wasters life should be sent to France![/p][/quote]France has a lot more respectable and nicer places than many areas in England. What an idiotic (hooligan?) comment![/p][/quote]I hate the French. Simple. Now if you loved b'mouth that much you'd want this scum gone.[/p][/quote]The French are more civilized than you will ever be! Why do you hate the French? What have they done to you? By the way I am English, but on many trips to France I have found them very pleasant, friendly and a lot safer than here in UK. You hate the French? Why?[/p][/quote]Yes why hate the French. Unless you've forgotten we were invaded and conquered by the Normans in 1066- or havent you heard yet? Just because you're on an Island no need to rubbish your ancestors now. We are basically French unless you were decended from the Vikings or Anglo Saxons.(Invaders as well). I've found the French nowadays have much more class than us and always helpful and polite to me. PS their food is better too, they fought long and hard to resist Mc Donalds getting a hold in France.[/p][/quote]if its that good then why dont you bugger off over there as well.. Football banning order yob

8:43pm Wed 13 Jun 12

pigliggy says...

You will all rest easier in your beds knowing our beloved council plan to build 10, yes 10 low cost miniscule family homes in Gladstone Road for local people to purchase. The homes will just meet legal requirements on size. Families will be encouraged to invest in these dolls houses which may also have an odd tree or allotment nearby. Being a simple c/tax payer I am unaware who is to build this grand gesture. Oh yes, it will go to tender. Not. So, appologies to the previously named areas as you are getting, well, nothing. The dear council appear unable to even admit to the problems you face which is understandable as I guess not one lives in the area's described. Such a shame we have lovely art pieces scattered around Boscombe as anyone looking at them is likely to trip on the appologies for pavements we are left with. Knowing this council is a laughing stock around the country is no consolation as it is always OUR money they waste - by the million. Anyway, as I said, sorry the needy area has the thumbs down from our council but at least they fully intend to demolish the only possible building in the area which might have put some heart back into Boscombe. Yup...get rid of the BCCA, give us 10 houses in the area that doesn't actually need the help so badly and let the poorer areas wallow. Is there any way to shame this 'not fit for purpose' council, rally the Police to an intense, long term zero tolerance policy and encourage this paper to be brave enough to back a huge effort?
You will all rest easier in your beds knowing our beloved council plan to build 10, yes 10 low cost miniscule family homes in Gladstone Road for local people to purchase. The homes will just meet legal requirements on size. Families will be encouraged to invest in these dolls houses which may also have an odd tree or allotment nearby. Being a simple c/tax payer I am unaware who is to build this grand gesture. Oh yes, it will go to tender. Not. So, appologies to the previously named areas as you are getting, well, nothing. The dear council appear unable to even admit to the problems you face which is understandable as I guess not one lives in the area's described. Such a shame we have lovely art pieces scattered around Boscombe as anyone looking at them is likely to trip on the appologies for pavements we are left with. Knowing this council is a laughing stock around the country is no consolation as it is always OUR money they waste - by the million. Anyway, as I said, sorry the needy area has the thumbs down from our council but at least they fully intend to demolish the only possible building in the area which might have put some heart back into Boscombe. Yup...get rid of the BCCA, give us 10 houses in the area that doesn't actually need the help so badly and let the poorer areas wallow. Is there any way to shame this 'not fit for purpose' council, rally the Police to an intense, long term zero tolerance policy and encourage this paper to be brave enough to back a huge effort? pigliggy

8:44pm Wed 13 Jun 12

*Fiona* says...

BmthNewshound wrote:
*Fiona* wrote:
Voguelady wrote:
This story is completely ridiculous and has been blown out of proportion. We all know what the Boscombe area is like and has been for many years.
Mr Wells is not the only landlord in this area and is currently supporting the Boscombe Regeneration Scheme. He also makes donations to local Schools, Charity Events and sponsors many well worth causes.
Many of his existing tenants who have moved into his new build properties and are extremely happy with their accomodation.
If you took the time to visit the Dave Wells Website you can see pictures and information on available accomodation and all the services and help which is available to his Tenants.
I understand that a certain ex councillor who has been campaigning against Mr Wells has a new man in her life, is it by any chance the writer of this article ? Perhaps the Echo should have contacted Dave Wells Properties before they printed such a one sided story !!!
"I understand that a certain ex councillor who has been campaigning against Mr Wells has a new man in her life, is it by any chance the writer of this article ?"


Is Lisa in a relationship with Stephen Bailey?
Fiona, you are obviously a very bitter and twisted woman who has personal issues with Mr Wells which have no relation to this article.
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You clearly have no understanding of business. It is not in Mr Wells financial interest to see Boscombe decline. Run down, socially deprived area = low rents = low profits. Thats an economic fact which is miles away from your claims.
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Mr Wells can't be held responsible for the conduct of his tenants neither is he responsible for the social, moral and economic delcine of Boscombe.
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What sort of man are you Bmthnewshound to stick up for a man that has been exposed on by Shelter and by Jon Snow on Channel 4 as one of the UK's worst rogue landlords.

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Same goes for Voguelady who is having a snipe at the ex Lib Dem Cllr Lisa Northover who is doing nothing but good by helping his tenants get their repairs done.
[quote][p][bold]BmthNewshound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]*Fiona*[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voguelady[/bold] wrote: This story is completely ridiculous and has been blown out of proportion. We all know what the Boscombe area is like and has been for many years. Mr Wells is not the only landlord in this area and is currently supporting the Boscombe Regeneration Scheme. He also makes donations to local Schools, Charity Events and sponsors many well worth causes. Many of his existing tenants who have moved into his new build properties and are extremely happy with their accomodation. If you took the time to visit the Dave Wells Website you can see pictures and information on available accomodation and all the services and help which is available to his Tenants. I understand that a certain ex councillor who has been campaigning against Mr Wells has a new man in her life, is it by any chance the writer of this article ? Perhaps the Echo should have contacted Dave Wells Properties before they printed such a one sided story !!![/p][/quote]"I understand that a certain ex councillor who has been campaigning against Mr Wells has a new man in her life, is it by any chance the writer of this article ?" Is Lisa in a relationship with Stephen Bailey?[/p][/quote]Fiona, you are obviously a very bitter and twisted woman who has personal issues with Mr Wells which have no relation to this article. . You clearly have no understanding of business. It is not in Mr Wells financial interest to see Boscombe decline. Run down, socially deprived area = low rents = low profits. Thats an economic fact which is miles away from your claims. . Mr Wells can't be held responsible for the conduct of his tenants neither is he responsible for the social, moral and economic delcine of Boscombe. .[/p][/quote]What sort of man are you Bmthnewshound to stick up for a man that has been exposed on by Shelter and by Jon Snow on Channel 4 as one of the UK's worst rogue landlords. __________________ Same goes for Voguelady who is having a snipe at the ex Lib Dem Cllr Lisa Northover who is doing nothing but good by helping his tenants get their repairs done. *Fiona*

9:10pm Wed 13 Jun 12

*Fiona* says...

Wilkie wrote:
wallydown, work for Dave Wells do you? It's quite right that he was responsible for importing the first wave of benefits druggies from predominately Liverpool in the 1980's. I recall that at one time in that era 42% of crime was attributable to persons from Livepool, who probably made up 1% of the population at that time. His rabbit hutch developments are an absolute discrace to my beautiful town. Money is his only driver, the man has no social conscience.
Money is his driver yes thats the truth of the matter.

Dave Wells doesnt care about his social housing tenants because he regards them with a lack of empathy.

He views them as scum.
[quote][p][bold]Wilkie[/bold] wrote: wallydown, work for Dave Wells do you? It's quite right that he was responsible for importing the first wave of benefits druggies from predominately Liverpool in the 1980's. I recall that at one time in that era 42% of crime was attributable to persons from Livepool, who probably made up 1% of the population at that time. His rabbit hutch developments are an absolute discrace to my beautiful town. Money is his only driver, the man has no social conscience.[/p][/quote]Money is his driver yes thats the truth of the matter. Dave Wells doesnt care about his social housing tenants because he regards them with a lack of empathy. He views them as scum. *Fiona*

9:26pm Wed 13 Jun 12

*Fiona* says...

stevobath wrote:
praelis wrote:
The sad truth of the matter is this kind of thing happens in every major town /city in england, if not the uk. Back in 1998 when my son was just 2 and a half, i had to teach him of the dangers of needles as we lived just round the corner from the crescent where at one time back then there used to be piles of syringes as well as beer cans liteering the little green space, which is strange cosidering there were 2 rehab centres within the vicinity. With regards to the 10 year old, they should not be really surprised at what they see as the council make only efforts to hide the problems or move them on, not actually sit down with the residents and deal with them.
What a stupid comment.
Go to any re-hab & you will find regular testing.Anyone found taking drugs will be out.
The needles being thrown around are likely to come from people whove lived in the area for years not someone who stays in a rehab for 3 months & then goes back home.a large proportion of rehab clients come from the South East/London.
Once again the Echo Boscombe bashing...I suppose the kid & his Dad have got their 15 minutes of fame!

Questions should be asked of the Council & why its constantly allowed Boscombe to die? Its about competing with the Town Centre.Boscombes 'Golden Mile' was a favourite area for shopping in the 70s.It more than rivalled the Town Centre.The powers that be want Boscombe to run itself into the ground.
Knocking down 100s of good family homes to make way for a rubbish pedestrianised area was the start.
BEWARE SOUTHBOURNE is slowly heading the same way.In the end the only shopping area will be the Town Centre,just as the rich & influential in the Council & business want.
As for Dave Wells? Funny how everyone starts moaning about him now, just cause of a CH 4 prog...There have been people whove complained about Mr Wells 'methods' etc for years. Hes been allowed to get away with charging max rent for the smallest amount of outlay.However to suggest its just people on benefits that rent from him is rubbish.Although expensive he is still the only Lanlord that some on low pay can afford.I myself was one.I worked in a Nursing Home for over 10 yrs & his accomodation was all I could afford.It was that or live in a tent! He charged extra for electric & it took months for him to fix a leaking roof.The massive & beautiful garden at the property was soon turned into garages by him,which the Council allowed.Obviously it helps to bend the rules & the Law when in the property renting business.I did actually send some interesting info to the Echo regarding Mr Wells way of getting rid of sitting tenants.Of course the Echo werent interested.No just bash Boscombe & create a negative image for THE WHOLE OF THE TOWN.Talk about 'Shooting Onesel In The Foot'! WELL DONE ECHO!
"I did actually send some interesting info to the Echo regarding Mr Wells way of getting rid of sitting tenants.Of course the Echo werent interested"

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Can you post the info the Echo didnt publish about how he gets rid of his sitting tenants on here...

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Same thing happened when I tried to raise awareness of abuse of patients in an NHS Trust.
Echo didnt want to know-they also removed my posts that commented on the abuse and that was only a few weeks after Neal Butterworth made a comment on a Cherries thread that the Daily Echo wasnt the public relations arm of the NHS or any other organization.


Sometimes I read articles on here exposing injustice and I think 'thank God for this newspaper' but at the end of the day we all have to acknowledge that Newsquest is a profit making venture interested in our money its not a service set up for the public good.
[quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]praelis[/bold] wrote: The sad truth of the matter is this kind of thing happens in every major town /city in england, if not the uk. Back in 1998 when my son was just 2 and a half, i had to teach him of the dangers of needles as we lived just round the corner from the crescent where at one time back then there used to be piles of syringes as well as beer cans liteering the little green space, which is strange cosidering there were 2 rehab centres within the vicinity. With regards to the 10 year old, they should not be really surprised at what they see as the council make only efforts to hide the problems or move them on, not actually sit down with the residents and deal with them.[/p][/quote]What a stupid comment. Go to any re-hab & you will find regular testing.Anyone found taking drugs will be out. The needles being thrown around are likely to come from people whove lived in the area for years not someone who stays in a rehab for 3 months & then goes back home.a large proportion of rehab clients come from the South East/London. Once again the Echo Boscombe bashing...I suppose the kid & his Dad have got their 15 minutes of fame! Questions should be asked of the Council & why its constantly allowed Boscombe to die? Its about competing with the Town Centre.Boscombes 'Golden Mile' was a favourite area for shopping in the 70s.It more than rivalled the Town Centre.The powers that be want Boscombe to run itself into the ground. Knocking down 100s of good family homes to make way for a rubbish pedestrianised area was the start. BEWARE SOUTHBOURNE is slowly heading the same way.In the end the only shopping area will be the Town Centre,just as the rich & influential in the Council & business want. As for Dave Wells? Funny how everyone starts moaning about him now, just cause of a CH 4 prog...There have been people whove complained about Mr Wells 'methods' etc for years. Hes been allowed to get away with charging max rent for the smallest amount of outlay.However to suggest its just people on benefits that rent from him is rubbish.Although expensive he is still the only Lanlord that some on low pay can afford.I myself was one.I worked in a Nursing Home for over 10 yrs & his accomodation was all I could afford.It was that or live in a tent! He charged extra for electric & it took months for him to fix a leaking roof.The massive & beautiful garden at the property was soon turned into garages by him,which the Council allowed.Obviously it helps to bend the rules & the Law when in the property renting business.I did actually send some interesting info to the Echo regarding Mr Wells way of getting rid of sitting tenants.Of course the Echo werent interested.No just bash Boscombe & create a negative image for THE WHOLE OF THE TOWN.Talk about 'Shooting Onesel In The Foot'! WELL DONE ECHO![/p][/quote]"I did actually send some interesting info to the Echo regarding Mr Wells way of getting rid of sitting tenants.Of course the Echo werent interested" _______________ Can you post the info the Echo didnt publish about how he gets rid of his sitting tenants on here... _______________ Same thing happened when I tried to raise awareness of abuse of patients in an NHS Trust. Echo didnt want to know-they also removed my posts that commented on the abuse and that was only a few weeks after Neal Butterworth made a comment on a Cherries thread that the Daily Echo wasnt the public relations arm of the NHS or any other organization. Sometimes I read articles on here exposing injustice and I think 'thank God for this newspaper' but at the end of the day we all have to acknowledge that Newsquest is a profit making venture interested in our money its not a service set up for the public good. *Fiona*

9:38pm Wed 13 Jun 12

BmthNewshound says...

In response to Fiona's latest comment:

If you seriously believe that Dispatches programmes presents a balanced opinion you must be very naive. Programmes like Dispatches are designed to be sensationalist and present a distorted version of the truth. If the progarmmes gave a balanced picture it would be a very boring programme, wouldn’t shock, and wouldn’t get as many viewers.
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My comment was neither in support or against Mr Wells. It was a statement of economic & social fact. The fact also remains that Mr Wells provides homes for dozens of people, he has invested heavily in building new homes to replace the run down HMO’s which have blighted the town, and his business has created employment opportunities. I do, however, believe that it isn’t in the public interest for one private landlord to become so dominant in the private rented sector. That said whilst the Council(including when the LibDems were in power) has encouraged private developers to build student accommodation, sheltered housing for the elderly and expensive apartments priced way beyond the means of local people I haven’t seen the same enthusiasm to encourage the building of affordable family homes.
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The problems that effect Boscombe, and increasingly other parts of Bournemouth, are not going to be dealt with by “Wells Bashing” this merely takes the focus of that minority of low-life individuals, and the people who encourage them to come to Bournemouth, who are hell bent on inflicting their depraved misery on innocent people , like the young child who drew this very disturbing picture.
In response to Fiona's latest comment: If you seriously believe that Dispatches programmes presents a balanced opinion you must be very naive. Programmes like Dispatches are designed to be sensationalist and present a distorted version of the truth. If the progarmmes gave a balanced picture it would be a very boring programme, wouldn’t shock, and wouldn’t get as many viewers. . My comment was neither in support or against Mr Wells. It was a statement of economic & social fact. The fact also remains that Mr Wells provides homes for dozens of people, he has invested heavily in building new homes to replace the run down HMO’s which have blighted the town, and his business has created employment opportunities. I do, however, believe that it isn’t in the public interest for one private landlord to become so dominant in the private rented sector. That said whilst the Council(including when the LibDems were in power) has encouraged private developers to build student accommodation, sheltered housing for the elderly and expensive apartments priced way beyond the means of local people I haven’t seen the same enthusiasm to encourage the building of affordable family homes. . The problems that effect Boscombe, and increasingly other parts of Bournemouth, are not going to be dealt with by “Wells Bashing” this merely takes the focus of that minority of low-life individuals, and the people who encourage them to come to Bournemouth, who are hell bent on inflicting their depraved misery on innocent people , like the young child who drew this very disturbing picture. BmthNewshound

10:27pm Wed 13 Jun 12

cynicist says...

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote:
Nothing has changed in the past 12 years of being here. The Police need to grow some balls like in the USA. Over there you go to jail for loitering!
I think I'd rather live with junkies that under martial law.
[quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: Nothing has changed in the past 12 years of being here. The Police need to grow some balls like in the USA. Over there you go to jail for loitering![/p][/quote]I think I'd rather live with junkies that under martial law. cynicist

11:40pm Wed 13 Jun 12

beachcomber1 says...

"You clearly have no understanding of business. It is not in Mr Wells financial interest to see Boscombe decline. Run down, socially deprived area = low rents = low profits. Thats an economic fact which is miles away from your claims."


you clearly have no idea how the housing benefit scam works! or actually i think you know very well, and are just playing dumb.
"You clearly have no understanding of business. It is not in Mr Wells financial interest to see Boscombe decline. Run down, socially deprived area = low rents = low profits. Thats an economic fact which is miles away from your claims." you clearly have no idea how the housing benefit scam works! or actually i think you know very well, and are just playing dumb. beachcomber1

10:00am Thu 14 Jun 12

Gastines2 says...

After reading the numerous comments laying the blame on Dave Wells yet again, I find it interesting that only a couple of the comments note the absolute lack of action by our police, also missing from the picture,no policeman/woman. Perhaps our local councillors while deliberating on all the losses they are incurring on various pet projects, could put some time in with our local Chief Constable,tour the area,preferably at night and ask themselves what they intend to do about the situation. Take a few solicitor's, not the sex trade kind, and judge with them and don't leave the area untill a constructive plan of ridding the problem is devised. No need for consultants ask local shopkeepers/business people and council tax paying residents. Should be quite an interesting evening out. Take an Echo reporter and we might even get an action report. This is need NOW.
Forget all the pet projects and do something constructive for your locals for a change.
After reading the numerous comments laying the blame on Dave Wells yet again, I find it interesting that only a couple of the comments note the absolute lack of action by our police, also missing from the picture,no policeman/woman. Perhaps our local councillors while deliberating on all the losses they are incurring on various pet projects, could put some time in with our local Chief Constable,tour the area,preferably at night and ask themselves what they intend to do about the situation. Take a few solicitor's, not the sex trade kind, and judge with them and don't leave the area untill a constructive plan of ridding the problem is devised. No need for consultants ask local shopkeepers/business people and council tax paying residents. Should be quite an interesting evening out. Take an Echo reporter and we might even get an action report. This is need NOW. Forget all the pet projects and do something constructive for your locals for a change. Gastines2

1:48pm Thu 14 Jun 12

stevobath says...

delta3 wrote:
What a stupid comment.
Go to any re-hab & you will find regular testing.Anyone found taking drugs will be out.
The needles being thrown around are likely to come from people whove lived in the area for years not someone who stays in a rehab for 3 months & then goes back home.a large proportion of rehab clients come from the South East/London.

Where do you think these people then go when they fail the daily testing regime? Back home? No they then become residents and then need to find cheap basic housing ......enter DW & co. I used to live and work in Boscombe but when my youngest kept pointing out discarded sharpes I moved (10 years ago) Boscomites are not all bad but I would ask the Police to leave their vehicles more often! If I can sit in Macdonalds and witness dealers in action why can't the Police? If I was a no-good dealer of death products surely setting up in an area full of potential victims, just going into, in or just out of re-hab would be lucrative?
Have you worked or have experience in the Rehab industry? Probably not.

Since the 80s Boscombe has become an area where people such as addicts etc,gravitate to,especially from the North West.Once someone gets a flat/bedsit friends normally follow.Most of the addicts etc that live in Boscombe havent come out of a rehab.
Ive experience from both being an addict who grew up in Bournemouth & as someone who has worked with addicts so have a pretty good idea of the problems.
Trouble is a lot of people just read sensationalist headlines,that then become 'facts' & then are experts & then think all their assumptions are right.To suggest all the junkies in Boscombe are there because of Rehabs is ludicrous.
Im not saying things arent out of hand or serious,but Boscombe is just one small area of Bournemouth.These lurid headlines destoy the WHOLE towns image.
As Ive mentioned along with a few others,Boscombe started dying in every possible way when they knocked down 100s of family homes & pedestrianised the area.Another waste of money basically that lined someones pocket.IE Who needs a large multi storey Car Park for shoppers if there are no shops? Boscombe was & is being run down systematically so theres no chance of any competition with the Town Centre.Southbourne too seems to be dying slowly-Its rather depressing now,whereas it once had a few interesting shops.
I dont know the answers but how about legalised controlled brothels, where workers pay tax etc? It works in Australia with no problems.The 'War Against Drugs' doesnt work but it keeps an awful lot of people in work! Is that one of the problems?If drugs were legalised they become cheaper,the big dealers can no longer make money,addicts get their fix for peanuts so less crime et,etc. Interestingly,where there have been pilot projects supplying addicts with clean heroin & a place to take it safely,crime has dropped by astonishing amounts.
These ideas may sound shocking to Conservative minded people & theyre not ideal answers, but if they make things better,why not try? We just need a Govt who is brave enough to at least look into it.The current approach doesnt work & even some top Police officers have admitted that legalisation might be the next thing to try.We cant however blame all the problems in Boscombe on one group or reaon.There are wide social issues that cause these problems.
As for HMOs? How about a ban on anymore large houses being turned into money making exercises for people like Mr Wells?.One more thing.If you drive all addicts,drunks prostitutes & undesirables from one area,they will eventually just pop up somewhere else.In the 70s the area around The Triangle in Central Bournemouth & part of Westbourne was the 'druggie' area!
[quote][p][bold]delta3[/bold] wrote: What a stupid comment. Go to any re-hab & you will find regular testing.Anyone found taking drugs will be out. The needles being thrown around are likely to come from people whove lived in the area for years not someone who stays in a rehab for 3 months & then goes back home.a large proportion of rehab clients come from the South East/London. Where do you think these people then go when they fail the daily testing regime? Back home? No they then become residents and then need to find cheap basic housing ......enter DW & co. I used to live and work in Boscombe but when my youngest kept pointing out discarded sharpes I moved (10 years ago) Boscomites are not all bad but I would ask the Police to leave their vehicles more often! If I can sit in Macdonalds and witness dealers in action why can't the Police? If I was a no-good dealer of death products surely setting up in an area full of potential victims, just going into, in or just out of re-hab would be lucrative?[/p][/quote]Have you worked or have experience in the Rehab industry? Probably not. Since the 80s Boscombe has become an area where people such as addicts etc,gravitate to,especially from the North West.Once someone gets a flat/bedsit friends normally follow.Most of the addicts etc that live in Boscombe havent come out of a rehab. Ive experience from both being an addict who grew up in Bournemouth & as someone who has worked with addicts so have a pretty good idea of the problems. Trouble is a lot of people just read sensationalist headlines,that then become 'facts' & then are experts & then think all their assumptions are right.To suggest all the junkies in Boscombe are there because of Rehabs is ludicrous. Im not saying things arent out of hand or serious,but Boscombe is just one small area of Bournemouth.These lurid headlines destoy the WHOLE towns image. As Ive mentioned along with a few others,Boscombe started dying in every possible way when they knocked down 100s of family homes & pedestrianised the area.Another waste of money basically that lined someones pocket.IE Who needs a large multi storey Car Park for shoppers if there are no shops? Boscombe was & is being run down systematically so theres no chance of any competition with the Town Centre.Southbourne too seems to be dying slowly-Its rather depressing now,whereas it once had a few interesting shops. I dont know the answers but how about legalised controlled brothels, where workers pay tax etc? It works in Australia with no problems.The 'War Against Drugs' doesnt work but it keeps an awful lot of people in work! Is that one of the problems?If drugs were legalised they become cheaper,the big dealers can no longer make money,addicts get their fix for peanuts so less crime et,etc. Interestingly,where there have been pilot projects supplying addicts with clean heroin & a place to take it safely,crime has dropped by astonishing amounts. These ideas may sound shocking to Conservative minded people & theyre not ideal answers, but if they make things better,why not try? We just need a Govt who is brave enough to at least look into it.The current approach doesnt work & even some top Police officers have admitted that legalisation might be the next thing to try.We cant however blame all the problems in Boscombe on one group or reaon.There are wide social issues that cause these problems. As for HMOs? How about a ban on anymore large houses being turned into money making exercises for people like Mr Wells?.One more thing.If you drive all addicts,drunks prostitutes & undesirables from one area,they will eventually just pop up somewhere else.In the 70s the area around The Triangle in Central Bournemouth & part of Westbourne was the 'druggie' area! stevobath

1:58pm Thu 14 Jun 12

nonnisrevenge says...

It's a sad state of affairs when the only progressive action a resident can take is to move. As we are all aware pretty much the vast majority of residents in any one area are law abiding citizens that just want to make the best of their lives, and it is reasonable to ask that we can all raise children without the fear that they will be constantly subjected to the sights and sounds of crime, prostitution, drug abuse etc. Unfortunately the police suffer from what most workplaces suffer from and that’s a degree of laziness from some of its employees; canteen coppers as my old man used to call them. He worked in the force for over 25 years and despaired how inactive certain officers had become, reliant only on their panda car and a crime being committed. Apparently, and this is purely word of mouth, some of the coppers in Boscombe look forward to when a certain sergeant isn’t on duty, as he doesn’t take to kindly to those who would rather sip on a PG tip than pro-actively go out patrol and police the streets. As for some of PCSO's I’ve seen out and about in Boscombe... it beggars belief that they are in a position of any authority whatsoever. One chap walks around with his head down walking in double quick time and has all the presence of a damp flannel.
I will temper this rant by saying that there are as many decent Police as well as ineffective, it just seems that nowadays the latter are becoming more noticeable.
It's a sad state of affairs when the only progressive action a resident can take is to move. As we are all aware pretty much the vast majority of residents in any one area are law abiding citizens that just want to make the best of their lives, and it is reasonable to ask that we can all raise children without the fear that they will be constantly subjected to the sights and sounds of crime, prostitution, drug abuse etc. Unfortunately the police suffer from what most workplaces suffer from and that’s a degree of laziness from some of its employees; canteen coppers as my old man used to call them. He worked in the force for over 25 years and despaired how inactive certain officers had become, reliant only on their panda car and a crime being committed. Apparently, and this is purely word of mouth, some of the coppers in Boscombe look forward to when a certain sergeant isn’t on duty, as he doesn’t take to kindly to those who would rather sip on a PG tip than pro-actively go out patrol and police the streets. As for some of PCSO's I’ve seen out and about in Boscombe... it beggars belief that they are in a position of any authority whatsoever. One chap walks around with his head down walking in double quick time and has all the presence of a damp flannel. I will temper this rant by saying that there are as many decent Police as well as ineffective, it just seems that nowadays the latter are becoming more noticeable. nonnisrevenge

2:00pm Thu 14 Jun 12

nonnisrevenge says...

nonnisrevenge wrote:
It's a sad state of affairs when the only progressive action a resident can take is to move. As we are all aware pretty much the vast majority of residents in any one area are law abiding citizens that just want to make the best of their lives, and it is reasonable to ask that we can all raise children without the fear that they will be constantly subjected to the sights and sounds of crime, prostitution, drug abuse etc. Unfortunately the police suffer from what most workplaces suffer from and that’s a degree of laziness from some of its employees; canteen coppers as my old man used to call them. He worked in the force for over 25 years and despaired how inactive certain officers had become, reliant only on their panda car and a crime being committed. Apparently, and this is purely word of mouth, some of the coppers in Boscombe look forward to when a certain sergeant isn’t on duty, as he doesn’t take to kindly to those who would rather sip on a PG tip than pro-actively go out patrol and police the streets. As for some of PCSO's I’ve seen out and about in Boscombe... it beggars belief that they are in a position of any authority whatsoever. One chap walks around with his head down walking in double quick time and has all the presence of a damp flannel. I will temper this rant by saying that there are as many decent Police as well as ineffective, it just seems that nowadays the latter are becoming more noticeable.
or not as the case may be....
[quote][p][bold]nonnisrevenge[/bold] wrote: It's a sad state of affairs when the only progressive action a resident can take is to move. As we are all aware pretty much the vast majority of residents in any one area are law abiding citizens that just want to make the best of their lives, and it is reasonable to ask that we can all raise children without the fear that they will be constantly subjected to the sights and sounds of crime, prostitution, drug abuse etc. Unfortunately the police suffer from what most workplaces suffer from and that’s a degree of laziness from some of its employees; canteen coppers as my old man used to call them. He worked in the force for over 25 years and despaired how inactive certain officers had become, reliant only on their panda car and a crime being committed. Apparently, and this is purely word of mouth, some of the coppers in Boscombe look forward to when a certain sergeant isn’t on duty, as he doesn’t take to kindly to those who would rather sip on a PG tip than pro-actively go out patrol and police the streets. As for some of PCSO's I’ve seen out and about in Boscombe... it beggars belief that they are in a position of any authority whatsoever. One chap walks around with his head down walking in double quick time and has all the presence of a damp flannel. I will temper this rant by saying that there are as many decent Police as well as ineffective, it just seems that nowadays the latter are becoming more noticeable.[/p][/quote]or not as the case may be.... nonnisrevenge

3:31pm Thu 14 Jun 12

pete woodley says...

nonnisrevenge wrote:
nonnisrevenge wrote:
It's a sad state of affairs when the only progressive action a resident can take is to move. As we are all aware pretty much the vast majority of residents in any one area are law abiding citizens that just want to make the best of their lives, and it is reasonable to ask that we can all raise children without the fear that they will be constantly subjected to the sights and sounds of crime, prostitution, drug abuse etc. Unfortunately the police suffer from what most workplaces suffer from and that’s a degree of laziness from some of its employees; canteen coppers as my old man used to call them. He worked in the force for over 25 years and despaired how inactive certain officers had become, reliant only on their panda car and a crime being committed. Apparently, and this is purely word of mouth, some of the coppers in Boscombe look forward to when a certain sergeant isn’t on duty, as he doesn’t take to kindly to those who would rather sip on a PG tip than pro-actively go out patrol and police the streets. As for some of PCSO's I’ve seen out and about in Boscombe... it beggars belief that they are in a position of any authority whatsoever. One chap walks around with his head down walking in double quick time and has all the presence of a damp flannel. I will temper this rant by saying that there are as many decent Police as well as ineffective, it just seems that nowadays the latter are becoming more noticeable.
or not as the case may be....
THE PCSO'S are a complete waste of time,lets see their wages spent on real police officers.
[quote][p][bold]nonnisrevenge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nonnisrevenge[/bold] wrote: It's a sad state of affairs when the only progressive action a resident can take is to move. As we are all aware pretty much the vast majority of residents in any one area are law abiding citizens that just want to make the best of their lives, and it is reasonable to ask that we can all raise children without the fear that they will be constantly subjected to the sights and sounds of crime, prostitution, drug abuse etc. Unfortunately the police suffer from what most workplaces suffer from and that’s a degree of laziness from some of its employees; canteen coppers as my old man used to call them. He worked in the force for over 25 years and despaired how inactive certain officers had become, reliant only on their panda car and a crime being committed. Apparently, and this is purely word of mouth, some of the coppers in Boscombe look forward to when a certain sergeant isn’t on duty, as he doesn’t take to kindly to those who would rather sip on a PG tip than pro-actively go out patrol and police the streets. As for some of PCSO's I’ve seen out and about in Boscombe... it beggars belief that they are in a position of any authority whatsoever. One chap walks around with his head down walking in double quick time and has all the presence of a damp flannel. I will temper this rant by saying that there are as many decent Police as well as ineffective, it just seems that nowadays the latter are becoming more noticeable.[/p][/quote]or not as the case may be....[/p][/quote]THE PCSO'S are a complete waste of time,lets see their wages spent on real police officers. pete woodley

3:46pm Thu 14 Jun 12

scouserdavewells says...

It's a rubbish drawing!!!
It's a rubbish drawing!!! scouserdavewells

7:31pm Thu 14 Jun 12

pigliggy says...

When I asked if anyone knew a way to get our beloved council, Police and this newspaper to work together (with us) to improve our lot I was not flapping words about. I really am asking if anyone out there has the knowledge to kick-start some action with the professionals. I have no idea where to start other than letters to this paper but would they be printed?
If all we can do is flap words about re: landlords, lack of Police presence, unfit council and current rehab centres etc then goodbye Boscombe.
It's good to have a grumble but it will be better if we do something tangible.
Maybe there is a 'clean-up Boscombe' group out there but I haven't heard of it tho' would be very happy to join if there is one.
Ideas anyone?
When I asked if anyone knew a way to get our beloved council, Police and this newspaper to work together (with us) to improve our lot I was not flapping words about. I really am asking if anyone out there has the knowledge to kick-start some action with the professionals. I have no idea where to start other than letters to this paper but would they be printed? If all we can do is flap words about re: landlords, lack of Police presence, unfit council and current rehab centres etc then goodbye Boscombe. It's good to have a grumble but it will be better if we do something tangible. Maybe there is a 'clean-up Boscombe' group out there but I haven't heard of it tho' would be very happy to join if there is one. Ideas anyone? pigliggy

7:48pm Thu 14 Jun 12

mpdor says...

It is a shame some people make comment without knowing the facts regarding housing, under the 2004 housing act all properties with 3 or more landings or 5 unrelated families living at that address come under hmo licensing,this means the council have to inspect the property to ensure it meets decent homes standards, this invloves fire alarms fire doors electrical certs gas etc, there are some very good bedsits available in boscombe that are smart affordable and secure, there are a lot that are not so nice, many landlords do there places up to only see them trashed by anti social tenants, also there is a tax disadvantage to the maintenance of pproperties, also a lack of back up to get rid of bad tenants, you cannot say that landlords create bad tenants or should be responsible for those people they rent to when they go outside the property and commit offences, its to easy for certain people to attack dwp, or the police, the police need a amssive increase in officer numbers and financial resources, the only thing that will make a difference tot he anti social behaviour in boscombe is strict enforcement of the law, no ifs buts or maybes, a hard continuous crackdown day in day out, 20 years i have lived here and 20 years on i see the same problems i saw on the day of my arrival, and finally residents must help and assist the police and council, they can at the very least report confidentially the problems they are having, we also have one of the best public protection teams going in bmth, the enviromental health department is also one of the best, they only have a limited team and work under tremendous pressure, they also must get more officers and more resources, but in these constrained financial times that will be unlikely,
It is a shame some people make comment without knowing the facts regarding housing, under the 2004 housing act all properties with 3 or more landings or 5 unrelated families living at that address come under hmo licensing,this means the council have to inspect the property to ensure it meets decent homes standards, this invloves fire alarms fire doors electrical certs gas etc, there are some very good bedsits available in boscombe that are smart affordable and secure, there are a lot that are not so nice, many landlords do there places up to only see them trashed by anti social tenants, also there is a tax disadvantage to the maintenance of pproperties, also a lack of back up to get rid of bad tenants, you cannot say that landlords create bad tenants or should be responsible for those people they rent to when they go outside the property and commit offences, its to easy for certain people to attack dwp, or the police, the police need a amssive increase in officer numbers and financial resources, the only thing that will make a difference tot he anti social behaviour in boscombe is strict enforcement of the law, no ifs buts or maybes, a hard continuous crackdown day in day out, 20 years i have lived here and 20 years on i see the same problems i saw on the day of my arrival, and finally residents must help and assist the police and council, they can at the very least report confidentially the problems they are having, we also have one of the best public protection teams going in bmth, the enviromental health department is also one of the best, they only have a limited team and work under tremendous pressure, they also must get more officers and more resources, but in these constrained financial times that will be unlikely, mpdor

10:24pm Thu 14 Jun 12

SFF says...

They can clean it up for the airshow. They aren't bothered otherwise. As a woman who wears knickers in Boscombe, owns a house, pays council tax and works - surely I cannot be alone! Actually there are a lot of lovely people who live in Boscombe who really want to improve it. Unfortunately the Council sees these people as thorns in their side. Boscombe Regeneration? As soon as I heard they were still planning to bulldoze the BCCA after nearly 1000 objections it was cemented in my mind that Boscombe is despised by our Council. They have nothing but contempt for us. They didnt make it up on Dispatches. The Council think Dave Wells is wonderful and have their fingers in their ears singing la la la when tenants complain. They want it to be horrible in Boscombe. I don't know why? The community come up with an idea for social cohesion, education and jobs and they say it is unviable, but give no proper reasons and come up with their own plan which has much less evidence of viability. My son visited the BCCA site when it was shortly opened by the Occupiers to the community and it gave him a real boost. Now we are back to having nothing. He can get attacked on the street or stay in and play video games. There is nothing constructive in the area to do for his age range. The council is condemning a third generation to hopelessness and deprivation. Yet I don't want to move out of the area, I want to help improve it for my sons future. The Council should be so ashamed of themselves. They use Boscombe as a cash cow for the rest of Bournemouth and to hell with us. Shameful. They want to encourage home ownership in Boscombe with this development? How can that be when you are only persuading working home owners like myself that there never will be a will to improve the social cohesion of Boscombe, and our only course of action is to move out of the area. Bulldozing the BCCA is the last straw for many of us.
They can clean it up for the airshow. They aren't bothered otherwise. As a woman who wears knickers in Boscombe, owns a house, pays council tax and works - surely I cannot be alone! Actually there are a lot of lovely people who live in Boscombe who really want to improve it. Unfortunately the Council sees these people as thorns in their side. Boscombe Regeneration? As soon as I heard they were still planning to bulldoze the BCCA after nearly 1000 objections it was cemented in my mind that Boscombe is despised by our Council. They have nothing but contempt for us. They didnt make it up on Dispatches. The Council think Dave Wells is wonderful and have their fingers in their ears singing la la la when tenants complain. They want it to be horrible in Boscombe. I don't know why? The community come up with an idea for social cohesion, education and jobs and they say it is unviable, but give no proper reasons and come up with their own plan which has much less evidence of viability. My son visited the BCCA site when it was shortly opened by the Occupiers to the community and it gave him a real boost. Now we are back to having nothing. He can get attacked on the street or stay in and play video games. There is nothing constructive in the area to do for his age range. The council is condemning a third generation to hopelessness and deprivation. Yet I don't want to move out of the area, I want to help improve it for my sons future. The Council should be so ashamed of themselves. They use Boscombe as a cash cow for the rest of Bournemouth and to hell with us. Shameful. They want to encourage home ownership in Boscombe with this development? How can that be when you are only persuading working home owners like myself that there never will be a will to improve the social cohesion of Boscombe, and our only course of action is to move out of the area. Bulldozing the BCCA is the last straw for many of us. SFF

1:41pm Fri 15 Jun 12

stevobath says...

*Fiona* wrote:
stevobath wrote:
praelis wrote:
The sad truth of the matter is this kind of thing happens in every major town /city in england, if not the uk. Back in 1998 when my son was just 2 and a half, i had to teach him of the dangers of needles as we lived just round the corner from the crescent where at one time back then there used to be piles of syringes as well as beer cans liteering the little green space, which is strange cosidering there were 2 rehab centres within the vicinity. With regards to the 10 year old, they should not be really surprised at what they see as the council make only efforts to hide the problems or move them on, not actually sit down with the residents and deal with them.
What a stupid comment.
Go to any re-hab & you will find regular testing.Anyone found taking drugs will be out.
The needles being thrown around are likely to come from people whove lived in the area for years not someone who stays in a rehab for 3 months & then goes back home.a large proportion of rehab clients come from the South East/London.
Once again the Echo Boscombe bashing...I suppose the kid & his Dad have got their 15 minutes of fame!

Questions should be asked of the Council & why its constantly allowed Boscombe to die? Its about competing with the Town Centre.Boscombes 'Golden Mile' was a favourite area for shopping in the 70s.It more than rivalled the Town Centre.The powers that be want Boscombe to run itself into the ground.
Knocking down 100s of good family homes to make way for a rubbish pedestrianised area was the start.
BEWARE SOUTHBOURNE is slowly heading the same way.In the end the only shopping area will be the Town Centre,just as the rich & influential in the Council & business want.
As for Dave Wells? Funny how everyone starts moaning about him now, just cause of a CH 4 prog...There have been people whove complained about Mr Wells 'methods' etc for years. Hes been allowed to get away with charging max rent for the smallest amount of outlay.However to suggest its just people on benefits that rent from him is rubbish.Although expensive he is still the only Lanlord that some on low pay can afford.I myself was one.I worked in a Nursing Home for over 10 yrs & his accomodation was all I could afford.It was that or live in a tent! He charged extra for electric & it took months for him to fix a leaking roof.The massive & beautiful garden at the property was soon turned into garages by him,which the Council allowed.Obviously it helps to bend the rules & the Law when in the property renting business.I did actually send some interesting info to the Echo regarding Mr Wells way of getting rid of sitting tenants.Of course the Echo werent interested.No just bash Boscombe & create a negative image for THE WHOLE OF THE TOWN.Talk about 'Shooting Onesel In The Foot'! WELL DONE ECHO!
"I did actually send some interesting info to the Echo regarding Mr Wells way of getting rid of sitting tenants.Of course the Echo werent interested"

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Can you post the info the Echo didnt publish about how he gets rid of his sitting tenants on here...

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Same thing happened when I tried to raise awareness of abuse of patients in an NHS Trust.
Echo didnt want to know-they also removed my posts that commented on the abuse and that was only a few weeks after Neal Butterworth made a comment on a Cherries thread that the Daily Echo wasnt the public relations arm of the NHS or any other organization.


Sometimes I read articles on here exposing injustice and I think 'thank God for this newspaper' but at the end of the day we all have to acknowledge that Newsquest is a profit making venture interested in our money its not a service set up for the public good.
Have tried on numerous ocassions.My posts are removed very quickly.

Mr Wells has lots of friends in the right places.Yes he does provide some good properties.My Sister actually lives in a very nice bungalow he owns.The problem is with Mr Wells older properties.He does the bare minimum to keep the council happy with these older properties.
I can give you an idea of his ways though.Many years ago after certain attempts failed to get a sitting tenant out,Mr Wells removed floorboards & electrical fittings while the tenant was recovering in hospital from an 'assault by person or persons unknown'.This property is in Belle Vue Rd. For once Mr Wells was taken to court.I cannot remember the punishment he got off hand.It did make Echo headlines though.Anyway,this is/was the kind of thing that went on.

I also recall Mr Wells having piles of benefit books in his posession.One of my friends used to 'cash' his money early with Mr Wells,leaving his Incapacity Benefit book with him as security.This I believe was against the law.
I myself lived in a flat of Mr Wells.Its a large house in Southbourne Rd.The old lady who lived upstairs eventually moved out after months of being offered money.Shed lived there for over 30 years.Once she gave in, to the tune of around £400,within 2 weeks one flat was turned into 4 bedsits.The large mature garden out the back was eventually turned into garages although the number had to be reduced.
Mr Wells does do some good,but has a seedy,not very nice underbelly IMO.
If the Council werent allowed to sell off lots of its housing, thse HMOs & money grabbing landlords might not have such a powerful influence on the rental market?I also think that a house of a certain size should only be able to claim a set amount, no matter how many bedsits it may have.Obviously if you can get £75 a week for a box room & you have 10 of them in a house, then you will exploit that perfectly legally.
There should now be a cap on bedsits & similar set ups.All decor,bathrooms etc should have to be renewd on a time cycle By Law.Ive been into some shared bathrooms in HMOs & theyre more like run down public toilets.
All these comments are made from my from experiences, having lived in certain houses & also being a one time frequenter of the darker seedier side of life in Boscombe.
I would also point out that there are other property owners who are worse than Mr Wells.He just happens to own one of the largest property portfolios .
All things said.Id rather live in a s&&thole, than be on the streets.Thats often the stark choice that some are left with & what starts the downward spiral into addiction etc.
[quote][p][bold]*Fiona*[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]praelis[/bold] wrote: The sad truth of the matter is this kind of thing happens in every major town /city in england, if not the uk. Back in 1998 when my son was just 2 and a half, i had to teach him of the dangers of needles as we lived just round the corner from the crescent where at one time back then there used to be piles of syringes as well as beer cans liteering the little green space, which is strange cosidering there were 2 rehab centres within the vicinity. With regards to the 10 year old, they should not be really surprised at what they see as the council make only efforts to hide the problems or move them on, not actually sit down with the residents and deal with them.[/p][/quote]What a stupid comment. Go to any re-hab & you will find regular testing.Anyone found taking drugs will be out. The needles being thrown around are likely to come from people whove lived in the area for years not someone who stays in a rehab for 3 months & then goes back home.a large proportion of rehab clients come from the South East/London. Once again the Echo Boscombe bashing...I suppose the kid & his Dad have got their 15 minutes of fame! Questions should be asked of the Council & why its constantly allowed Boscombe to die? Its about competing with the Town Centre.Boscombes 'Golden Mile' was a favourite area for shopping in the 70s.It more than rivalled the Town Centre.The powers that be want Boscombe to run itself into the ground. Knocking down 100s of good family homes to make way for a rubbish pedestrianised area was the start. BEWARE SOUTHBOURNE is slowly heading the same way.In the end the only shopping area will be the Town Centre,just as the rich & influential in the Council & business want. As for Dave Wells? Funny how everyone starts moaning about him now, just cause of a CH 4 prog...There have been people whove complained about Mr Wells 'methods' etc for years. Hes been allowed to get away with charging max rent for the smallest amount of outlay.However to suggest its just people on benefits that rent from him is rubbish.Although expensive he is still the only Lanlord that some on low pay can afford.I myself was one.I worked in a Nursing Home for over 10 yrs & his accomodation was all I could afford.It was that or live in a tent! He charged extra for electric & it took months for him to fix a leaking roof.The massive & beautiful garden at the property was soon turned into garages by him,which the Council allowed.Obviously it helps to bend the rules & the Law when in the property renting business.I did actually send some interesting info to the Echo regarding Mr Wells way of getting rid of sitting tenants.Of course the Echo werent interested.No just bash Boscombe & create a negative image for THE WHOLE OF THE TOWN.Talk about 'Shooting Onesel In The Foot'! WELL DONE ECHO![/p][/quote]"I did actually send some interesting info to the Echo regarding Mr Wells way of getting rid of sitting tenants.Of course the Echo werent interested" _______________ Can you post the info the Echo didnt publish about how he gets rid of his sitting tenants on here... _______________ Same thing happened when I tried to raise awareness of abuse of patients in an NHS Trust. Echo didnt want to know-they also removed my posts that commented on the abuse and that was only a few weeks after Neal Butterworth made a comment on a Cherries thread that the Daily Echo wasnt the public relations arm of the NHS or any other organization. Sometimes I read articles on here exposing injustice and I think 'thank God for this newspaper' but at the end of the day we all have to acknowledge that Newsquest is a profit making venture interested in our money its not a service set up for the public good.[/p][/quote]Have tried on numerous ocassions.My posts are removed very quickly. Mr Wells has lots of friends in the right places.Yes he does provide some good properties.My Sister actually lives in a very nice bungalow he owns.The problem is with Mr Wells older properties.He does the bare minimum to keep the council happy with these older properties. I can give you an idea of his ways though.Many years ago after certain attempts failed to get a sitting tenant out,Mr Wells removed floorboards & electrical fittings while the tenant was recovering in hospital from an 'assault by person or persons unknown'.This property is in Belle Vue Rd. For once Mr Wells was taken to court.I cannot remember the punishment he got off hand.It did make Echo headlines though.Anyway,this is/was the kind of thing that went on. I also recall Mr Wells having piles of benefit books in his posession.One of my friends used to 'cash' his money early with Mr Wells,leaving his Incapacity Benefit book with him as security.This I believe was against the law. I myself lived in a flat of Mr Wells.Its a large house in Southbourne Rd.The old lady who lived upstairs eventually moved out after months of being offered money.Shed lived there for over 30 years.Once she gave in, to the tune of around £400,within 2 weeks one flat was turned into 4 bedsits.The large mature garden out the back was eventually turned into garages although the number had to be reduced. Mr Wells does do some good,but has a seedy,not very nice underbelly IMO. If the Council werent allowed to sell off lots of its housing, thse HMOs & money grabbing landlords might not have such a powerful influence on the rental market?I also think that a house of a certain size should only be able to claim a set amount, no matter how many bedsits it may have.Obviously if you can get £75 a week for a box room & you have 10 of them in a house, then you will exploit that perfectly legally. There should now be a cap on bedsits & similar set ups.All decor,bathrooms etc should have to be renewd on a time cycle By Law.Ive been into some shared bathrooms in HMOs & theyre more like run down public toilets. All these comments are made from my from experiences, having lived in certain houses & also being a one time frequenter of the darker seedier side of life in Boscombe. I would also point out that there are other property owners who are worse than Mr Wells.He just happens to own one of the largest property portfolios . All things said.Id rather live in a s&&thole, than be on the streets.Thats often the stark choice that some are left with & what starts the downward spiral into addiction etc. stevobath

9:49pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Rally says...

It is not only certain types of landlord that is the problem here.
There are, sadly, many tenants who have no respect for the property they live in - be it a house or a bedsit - and are quite happy to live in squalor.
Yes, landlords have certain responsibilities, but so too do tenants.
I have thirty plus years direct experience of letting bed-sits.
It's time this mindless landlord bashing stopped and attention given to the growing problems of lousy, selfish tenants.
It is not only certain types of landlord that is the problem here. There are, sadly, many tenants who have no respect for the property they live in - be it a house or a bedsit - and are quite happy to live in squalor. Yes, landlords have certain responsibilities, but so too do tenants. I have thirty plus years direct experience of letting bed-sits. It's time this mindless landlord bashing stopped and attention given to the growing problems of lousy, selfish tenants. Rally

10:04pm Fri 15 Jun 12

*Fiona* says...

stevobath wrote:
*Fiona* wrote:
stevobath wrote:
praelis wrote:
The sad truth of the matter is this kind of thing happens in every major town /city in england, if not the uk. Back in 1998 when my son was just 2 and a half, i had to teach him of the dangers of needles as we lived just round the corner from the crescent where at one time back then there used to be piles of syringes as well as beer cans liteering the little green space, which is strange cosidering there were 2 rehab centres within the vicinity. With regards to the 10 year old, they should not be really surprised at what they see as the council make only efforts to hide the problems or move them on, not actually sit down with the residents and deal with them.
What a stupid comment.
Go to any re-hab & you will find regular testing.Anyone found taking drugs will be out.
The needles being thrown around are likely to come from people whove lived in the area for years not someone who stays in a rehab for 3 months & then goes back home.a large proportion of rehab clients come from the South East/London.
Once again the Echo Boscombe bashing...I suppose the kid & his Dad have got their 15 minutes of fame!

Questions should be asked of the Council & why its constantly allowed Boscombe to die? Its about competing with the Town Centre.Boscombes 'Golden Mile' was a favourite area for shopping in the 70s.It more than rivalled the Town Centre.The powers that be want Boscombe to run itself into the ground.
Knocking down 100s of good family homes to make way for a rubbish pedestrianised area was the start.
BEWARE SOUTHBOURNE is slowly heading the same way.In the end the only shopping area will be the Town Centre,just as the rich & influential in the Council & business want.
As for Dave Wells? Funny how everyone starts moaning about him now, just cause of a CH 4 prog...There have been people whove complained about Mr Wells 'methods' etc for years. Hes been allowed to get away with charging max rent for the smallest amount of outlay.However to suggest its just people on benefits that rent from him is rubbish.Although expensive he is still the only Lanlord that some on low pay can afford.I myself was one.I worked in a Nursing Home for over 10 yrs & his accomodation was all I could afford.It was that or live in a tent! He charged extra for electric & it took months for him to fix a leaking roof.The massive & beautiful garden at the property was soon turned into garages by him,which the Council allowed.Obviously it helps to bend the rules & the Law when in the property renting business.I did actually send some interesting info to the Echo regarding Mr Wells way of getting rid of sitting tenants.Of course the Echo werent interested.No just bash Boscombe & create a negative image for THE WHOLE OF THE TOWN.Talk about 'Shooting Onesel In The Foot'! WELL DONE ECHO!
"I did actually send some interesting info to the Echo regarding Mr Wells way of getting rid of sitting tenants.Of course the Echo werent interested"

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Can you post the info the Echo didnt publish about how he gets rid of his sitting tenants on here...

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Same thing happened when I tried to raise awareness of abuse of patients in an NHS Trust.
Echo didnt want to know-they also removed my posts that commented on the abuse and that was only a few weeks after Neal Butterworth made a comment on a Cherries thread that the Daily Echo wasnt the public relations arm of the NHS or any other organization.


Sometimes I read articles on here exposing injustice and I think 'thank God for this newspaper' but at the end of the day we all have to acknowledge that Newsquest is a profit making venture interested in our money its not a service set up for the public good.
Have tried on numerous ocassions.My posts are removed very quickly.

Mr Wells has lots of friends in the right places.Yes he does provide some good properties.My Sister actually lives in a very nice bungalow he owns.The problem is with Mr Wells older properties.He does the bare minimum to keep the council happy with these older properties.
I can give you an idea of his ways though.Many years ago after certain attempts failed to get a sitting tenant out,Mr Wells removed floorboards & electrical fittings while the tenant was recovering in hospital from an 'assault by person or persons unknown'.This property is in Belle Vue Rd. For once Mr Wells was taken to court.I cannot remember the punishment he got off hand.It did make Echo headlines though.Anyway,this is/was the kind of thing that went on.

I also recall Mr Wells having piles of benefit books in his posession.One of my friends used to 'cash' his money early with Mr Wells,leaving his Incapacity Benefit book with him as security.This I believe was against the law.
I myself lived in a flat of Mr Wells.Its a large house in Southbourne Rd.The old lady who lived upstairs eventually moved out after months of being offered money.Shed lived there for over 30 years.Once she gave in, to the tune of around £400,within 2 weeks one flat was turned into 4 bedsits.The large mature garden out the back was eventually turned into garages although the number had to be reduced.
Mr Wells does do some good,but has a seedy,not very nice underbelly IMO.
If the Council werent allowed to sell off lots of its housing, thse HMOs & money grabbing landlords might not have such a powerful influence on the rental market?I also think that a house of a certain size should only be able to claim a set amount, no matter how many bedsits it may have.Obviously if you can get £75 a week for a box room & you have 10 of them in a house, then you will exploit that perfectly legally.
There should now be a cap on bedsits & similar set ups.All decor,bathrooms etc should have to be renewd on a time cycle By Law.Ive been into some shared bathrooms in HMOs & theyre more like run down public toilets.
All these comments are made from my from experiences, having lived in certain houses & also being a one time frequenter of the darker seedier side of life in Boscombe.
I would also point out that there are other property owners who are worse than Mr Wells.He just happens to own one of the largest property portfolios .
All things said.Id rather live in a s&&thole, than be on the streets.Thats often the stark choice that some are left with & what starts the downward spiral into addiction etc.
My ex rented one of his lockups years ago and when he went in to his office to query the amount of money he owed him the situation quickly became threatening when he was immediately surrounded by a load of heavies it was deliberate intimidation to shut him up.

Someone I used to work with was dumping some broken cooker hobs at the tip (only some of the rings on the hob were in working order) Dave Wells said can I buy them off you to put in my bedsits.
He said no you cant thats not right.

Im sure your right when you say there are other rogue landlords who are just as bad but we dont get to hear about them.
[quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]*Fiona*[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]praelis[/bold] wrote: The sad truth of the matter is this kind of thing happens in every major town /city in england, if not the uk. Back in 1998 when my son was just 2 and a half, i had to teach him of the dangers of needles as we lived just round the corner from the crescent where at one time back then there used to be piles of syringes as well as beer cans liteering the little green space, which is strange cosidering there were 2 rehab centres within the vicinity. With regards to the 10 year old, they should not be really surprised at what they see as the council make only efforts to hide the problems or move them on, not actually sit down with the residents and deal with them.[/p][/quote]What a stupid comment. Go to any re-hab & you will find regular testing.Anyone found taking drugs will be out. The needles being thrown around are likely to come from people whove lived in the area for years not someone who stays in a rehab for 3 months & then goes back home.a large proportion of rehab clients come from the South East/London. Once again the Echo Boscombe bashing...I suppose the kid & his Dad have got their 15 minutes of fame! Questions should be asked of the Council & why its constantly allowed Boscombe to die? Its about competing with the Town Centre.Boscombes 'Golden Mile' was a favourite area for shopping in the 70s.It more than rivalled the Town Centre.The powers that be want Boscombe to run itself into the ground. Knocking down 100s of good family homes to make way for a rubbish pedestrianised area was the start. BEWARE SOUTHBOURNE is slowly heading the same way.In the end the only shopping area will be the Town Centre,just as the rich & influential in the Council & business want. As for Dave Wells? Funny how everyone starts moaning about him now, just cause of a CH 4 prog...There have been people whove complained about Mr Wells 'methods' etc for years. Hes been allowed to get away with charging max rent for the smallest amount of outlay.However to suggest its just people on benefits that rent from him is rubbish.Although expensive he is still the only Lanlord that some on low pay can afford.I myself was one.I worked in a Nursing Home for over 10 yrs & his accomodation was all I could afford.It was that or live in a tent! He charged extra for electric & it took months for him to fix a leaking roof.The massive & beautiful garden at the property was soon turned into garages by him,which the Council allowed.Obviously it helps to bend the rules & the Law when in the property renting business.I did actually send some interesting info to the Echo regarding Mr Wells way of getting rid of sitting tenants.Of course the Echo werent interested.No just bash Boscombe & create a negative image for THE WHOLE OF THE TOWN.Talk about 'Shooting Onesel In The Foot'! WELL DONE ECHO![/p][/quote]"I did actually send some interesting info to the Echo regarding Mr Wells way of getting rid of sitting tenants.Of course the Echo werent interested" _______________ Can you post the info the Echo didnt publish about how he gets rid of his sitting tenants on here... _______________ Same thing happened when I tried to raise awareness of abuse of patients in an NHS Trust. Echo didnt want to know-they also removed my posts that commented on the abuse and that was only a few weeks after Neal Butterworth made a comment on a Cherries thread that the Daily Echo wasnt the public relations arm of the NHS or any other organization. Sometimes I read articles on here exposing injustice and I think 'thank God for this newspaper' but at the end of the day we all have to acknowledge that Newsquest is a profit making venture interested in our money its not a service set up for the public good.[/p][/quote]Have tried on numerous ocassions.My posts are removed very quickly. Mr Wells has lots of friends in the right places.Yes he does provide some good properties.My Sister actually lives in a very nice bungalow he owns.The problem is with Mr Wells older properties.He does the bare minimum to keep the council happy with these older properties. I can give you an idea of his ways though.Many years ago after certain attempts failed to get a sitting tenant out,Mr Wells removed floorboards & electrical fittings while the tenant was recovering in hospital from an 'assault by person or persons unknown'.This property is in Belle Vue Rd. For once Mr Wells was taken to court.I cannot remember the punishment he got off hand.It did make Echo headlines though.Anyway,this is/was the kind of thing that went on. I also recall Mr Wells having piles of benefit books in his posession.One of my friends used to 'cash' his money early with Mr Wells,leaving his Incapacity Benefit book with him as security.This I believe was against the law. I myself lived in a flat of Mr Wells.Its a large house in Southbourne Rd.The old lady who lived upstairs eventually moved out after months of being offered money.Shed lived there for over 30 years.Once she gave in, to the tune of around £400,within 2 weeks one flat was turned into 4 bedsits.The large mature garden out the back was eventually turned into garages although the number had to be reduced. Mr Wells does do some good,but has a seedy,not very nice underbelly IMO. If the Council werent allowed to sell off lots of its housing, thse HMOs & money grabbing landlords might not have such a powerful influence on the rental market?I also think that a house of a certain size should only be able to claim a set amount, no matter how many bedsits it may have.Obviously if you can get £75 a week for a box room & you have 10 of them in a house, then you will exploit that perfectly legally. There should now be a cap on bedsits & similar set ups.All decor,bathrooms etc should have to be renewd on a time cycle By Law.Ive been into some shared bathrooms in HMOs & theyre more like run down public toilets. All these comments are made from my from experiences, having lived in certain houses & also being a one time frequenter of the darker seedier side of life in Boscombe. I would also point out that there are other property owners who are worse than Mr Wells.He just happens to own one of the largest property portfolios . All things said.Id rather live in a s&&thole, than be on the streets.Thats often the stark choice that some are left with & what starts the downward spiral into addiction etc.[/p][/quote]My ex rented one of his lockups years ago and when he went in to his office to query the amount of money he owed him the situation quickly became threatening when he was immediately surrounded by a load of heavies it was deliberate intimidation to shut him up. Someone I used to work with was dumping some broken cooker hobs at the tip (only some of the rings on the hob were in working order) Dave Wells said can I buy them off you to put in my bedsits. He said no you cant thats not right. Im sure your right when you say there are other rogue landlords who are just as bad but we dont get to hear about them. *Fiona*

10:19pm Fri 15 Jun 12

glendower2909 says...

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
Agree with Renegade, the answer is to move, Boscombe won't change. Similar accomodation is available in Charminster/Winton not too far away without such a nasty environment for children. Wouln't like my children to have grown up in Boscombe and even now they are in their late teens /early twenties I advise them not to visit the area. There are nicer areas a stones throw away.
Moving is not always the answer..subsequent to the councils attempts to clean up boscombe following the surf reef etc..all that has happened is that the low life that was in boscombe has just been moved out to charminster & winton...Have a look at the people hanging about outside the heatherland and parkstone..same faces that used to be outside the ragged cat/deacons in boscombe..
[quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: Agree with Renegade, the answer is to move, Boscombe won't change. Similar accomodation is available in Charminster/Winton not too far away without such a nasty environment for children. Wouln't like my children to have grown up in Boscombe and even now they are in their late teens /early twenties I advise them not to visit the area. There are nicer areas a stones throw away.[/p][/quote]Moving is not always the answer..subsequent to the councils attempts to clean up boscombe following the surf reef etc..all that has happened is that the low life that was in boscombe has just been moved out to charminster & winton...Have a look at the people hanging about outside the heatherland and parkstone..same faces that used to be outside the ragged cat/deacons in boscombe.. glendower2909

1:46pm Sat 16 Jun 12

stevobath says...

Rally wrote:
It is not only certain types of landlord that is the problem here.
There are, sadly, many tenants who have no respect for the property they live in - be it a house or a bedsit - and are quite happy to live in squalor.
Yes, landlords have certain responsibilities, but so too do tenants.
I have thirty plus years direct experience of letting bed-sits.
It's time this mindless landlord bashing stopped and attention given to the growing problems of lousy, selfish tenants.
Thing is Landlords are still happy to take mioney off the 'lousy selfish tenants'.Maybe go for better tenants,IE working ones? Oh.Sorry I forgot.Those on benefits are easier to get money from.Rent cheques go direct to landlord & are garunteed.Also when you move into a rented property, a large deposit is paid.This usually more than covers any problems that a tenant has caused.Also a 6month tenancy is just that,If theyre that bad & breaking the conditions of contract, then they get kicked out.Please dont pretend lanlords are hard done by.There are good ones but I find the ones that specialise in 'Benefit/Social Housing' are normally money grabbing people who dont care.Theyre just exploiting a system where they can earn an awful lot from rents, for doing very little.Why would anyone buy a large house in an awful area, if it wasnt to exploit the general situation? Oh I suppose Landlords are doing it for altruistic reasons?
[quote][p][bold]Rally[/bold] wrote: It is not only certain types of landlord that is the problem here. There are, sadly, many tenants who have no respect for the property they live in - be it a house or a bedsit - and are quite happy to live in squalor. Yes, landlords have certain responsibilities, but so too do tenants. I have thirty plus years direct experience of letting bed-sits. It's time this mindless landlord bashing stopped and attention given to the growing problems of lousy, selfish tenants.[/p][/quote]Thing is Landlords are still happy to take mioney off the 'lousy selfish tenants'.Maybe go for better tenants,IE working ones? Oh.Sorry I forgot.Those on benefits are easier to get money from.Rent cheques go direct to landlord & are garunteed.Also when you move into a rented property, a large deposit is paid.This usually more than covers any problems that a tenant has caused.Also a 6month tenancy is just that,If theyre that bad & breaking the conditions of contract, then they get kicked out.Please dont pretend lanlords are hard done by.There are good ones but I find the ones that specialise in 'Benefit/Social Housing' are normally money grabbing people who dont care.Theyre just exploiting a system where they can earn an awful lot from rents, for doing very little.Why would anyone buy a large house in an awful area, if it wasnt to exploit the general situation? Oh I suppose Landlords are doing it for altruistic reasons? stevobath

12:12pm Sun 17 Jun 12

St.John says...

What a shame, I was born in the Royal Victoria and went to school at St Thomas Garnets and had fond memories of Boscombe as a child. They soon evaporated when I rented a flat on St Clements Road about 14 years ago and the images depicted in that picture where only too familiar. People urinating in the Churchyard, banging on the front door at all hours of the morning, drugs raids, brothels and fighting in the street. Prostitutes out in the afternoon during the summer...... It is a real shame as Boscombe does have some quirky elements, good vintage shops etc. I now live in an area of Liverpool which used to be notorious, but has been cleaned up immensely. It is possible!
What a shame, I was born in the Royal Victoria and went to school at St Thomas Garnets and had fond memories of Boscombe as a child. They soon evaporated when I rented a flat on St Clements Road about 14 years ago and the images depicted in that picture where only too familiar. People urinating in the Churchyard, banging on the front door at all hours of the morning, drugs raids, brothels and fighting in the street. Prostitutes out in the afternoon during the summer...... It is a real shame as Boscombe does have some quirky elements, good vintage shops etc. I now live in an area of Liverpool which used to be notorious, but has been cleaned up immensely. It is possible! St.John

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