Family's terror as toddler lands on used needle in Boscombe park

King's Park

Annabel Parkinson and Siann

First published in News by

ANXIOUS mum Annabel Parkinson is facing an agonising wait to find out if her two-year-old daughter Siann has been infected with HIV after being stabbed by a discarded hypodermic needle.

A morning walk in King’s Park, Boscombe, turned into a nightmare for Annabel, 25, after Siann rolled down a hill near the cricket pavilion, landing on the needle, while playing with the family’s Staffordshire terrier Jessie.

Annabel said: “One moment Siann was playing happily, throwing a ball for Jessie in the park, the next we were rushing to hospital.

“She shouted out and I could see the needle in her hand. I thought she had picked it up but then I noticed blood on her right thigh and realised she had pulled it out of her leg.

“When I looked closer I could see that she had stabbed herself and also been scratched by the needle. I was horrified.”

Annabel, who lives in nearby Ashley Road, rushed home and her mother Kit took them to the Royal Bournemouth Hospital last Friday.

She said: “We were seen within five minutes; Siann had a Hepatitis B injection and a blood test but we were told we would have to come back in June and July to have more injections and blood tests. It’s only when they can compare the three blood tests that they can say, for definite, whether Siann has contracted HIV.

“I’ve lived in Boscombe all my life, King’s Park is on our doorstep but there’s no way I will ever take her back there.

“It’s a public park and lots of children play.

“But it is also somewhere drunks and, obviously, drug addicts congregate; something should be done to ensure that families are safe. I am very angry and want to warn other parents of the dangers.”

Hairdresser Annabel added: “For me, the waiting is the worst part. It will be months before I know for certain whether Siann is okay. The risk that she has been infected with HIV is small but it’s like there is a big, black cloud hanging over us.”

Bournemouth borough council’s parks manager Andy McDonald said: “We are appalled that an individual could dispose of their waste so irresponsibly, causing injury and distress to a young child and her family.

“King’s Park is inspected and cleaned on a daily basis and it is a rare occurrence to receive a report of a discarded needle being found in the area.”

A Dorset police spokeswoman said an investigation had been launched and patrols would be stepped up in the area.

She added: “An officer has been in contact with the lady who reported finding the needle and also spoken to the local authority about a clean-up of the area.”

What the readers said

• Dog walker Julia Blomley, 63, who lives nearby, said: “I’m not surprised by what has happened.

“A lot of drinkers congregate here on the benches. Who knows what else they are getting up to.”

• Chad Cummerson, 16, was with his seven-year-old brother Ricky and their dog. He said: “I don’t let Ricky on the grassy area – we stick to the footpaths.

“It’s disgusting that this can happen in a public park.”

• Tim Wright, 51, who lives locally, said: “I’m surprised. I use the park a lot. I like to relax here and have always felt safe.

“There is a problem with drunks but I’ve never seen any evidence of drug use.”

• Nigel Damon, 52, from Thistlebarrow Road, said: “I’ve seen needles in the bushes and silver paper – probably used to wrap drugs.

“The area should be cleaned up to ensure that any danger to children is disposed of.”

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8:36am Thu 31 May 12

Dave2207 says...

The area should be "cleaned" by sweeping-up the drunks and taking them to a pound, as is done with illegal motor cars, until they are sober and have paid for their release. If they can afford booze then they can afford the release fee.
The area should be "cleaned" by sweeping-up the drunks and taking them to a pound, as is done with illegal motor cars, until they are sober and have paid for their release. If they can afford booze then they can afford the release fee. Dave2207
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8:41am Thu 31 May 12

Mr N James says...

I dont think its so much as the drunks that leave needles although drunks are a major problem in that area.But the scum that are drug users and they are SCUM.
I dont think its so much as the drunks that leave needles although drunks are a major problem in that area.But the scum that are drug users and they are SCUM. Mr N James
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8:42am Thu 31 May 12

gerbil112 says...

A agonising time for this poor mother and child, however the chances of the needle user having HIV is very remote. Not all injecting drug addicts carry the HIV virus. The virus does not live very long outside the body so catching the virus from a chance injury like this would be very rare. It is more likely to be caught by a healthcare worker getting a "needle-stick" injury, shortly after using the needle on a carrier.
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Howver, the chance of catching Hep B or C is much more of a reality. It lives longer outside the body and is easliy caught in such an accident.
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As an aside, although I agree with this incident being publicised, I do wonder about the ethics of naming this young child and the possible repercussions of her identity being revealed with this hanging over her. Will the Echo publicise the results of her blood test results if they are positive? The poor child could be ostracised by other parents and children following this report! I do hope that people will be sympathetic toward her and realise that HIV is not a death sentence and cannot be transferred by social contact.
A agonising time for this poor mother and child, however the chances of the needle user having HIV is very remote. Not all injecting drug addicts carry the HIV virus. The virus does not live very long outside the body so catching the virus from a chance injury like this would be very rare. It is more likely to be caught by a healthcare worker getting a "needle-stick" injury, shortly after using the needle on a carrier. . Howver, the chance of catching Hep B or C is much more of a reality. It lives longer outside the body and is easliy caught in such an accident. . As an aside, although I agree with this incident being publicised, I do wonder about the ethics of naming this young child and the possible repercussions of her identity being revealed with this hanging over her. Will the Echo publicise the results of her blood test results if they are positive? The poor child could be ostracised by other parents and children following this report! I do hope that people will be sympathetic toward her and realise that HIV is not a death sentence and cannot be transferred by social contact. gerbil112
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8:42am Thu 31 May 12

BIGTONE says...

Welcome to smackhead Central.
Welcome to smackhead Central. BIGTONE
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8:46am Thu 31 May 12

mysticalshoelace says...

It's impossible and too expensive to clean every square foot of the park on a daily basis and even if it was there would be no guarantees that needles wouldn't be dropped in between cleans. Unfortunately discarded needles are an all too common sight in Boscombe.
It's impossible and too expensive to clean every square foot of the park on a daily basis and even if it was there would be no guarantees that needles wouldn't be dropped in between cleans. Unfortunately discarded needles are an all too common sight in Boscombe. mysticalshoelace
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8:57am Thu 31 May 12

Fred Luton says...

It is very concerning that several areas in Bournemouth appear to be visably deteriating. The council is doing very little to try and improve things and more and more undesirables seem to be moving to certain areas of Bournemouth.
It is very concerning that several areas in Bournemouth appear to be visably deteriating. The council is doing very little to try and improve things and more and more undesirables seem to be moving to certain areas of Bournemouth. Fred Luton
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8:58am Thu 31 May 12

wonderway says...

would be so easy to sort this
all needles issued should be batched numbered and then listed to the person receiving needles then they could be prosecuted for for discarding them in a public place. Have brought this up with NHS but their attitude is it would be against their human rights which is rubbish, it would pin point these parasites who discard needles straight away. So whos got the back bone to instigate this easy simple procedure
would be so easy to sort this all needles issued should be batched numbered and then listed to the person receiving needles then they could be prosecuted for for discarding them in a public place. Have brought this up with NHS but their attitude is it would be against their human rights which is rubbish, it would pin point these parasites who discard needles straight away. So whos got the back bone to instigate this easy simple procedure wonderway
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9:20am Thu 31 May 12

CockleKate says...

I lived in Bournemouth in the 50's, I'm glad I don't live there now.
I lived in Bournemouth in the 50's, I'm glad I don't live there now. CockleKate
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9:22am Thu 31 May 12

townsend28 says...

gerbil112 wrote:
A agonising time for this poor mother and child, however the chances of the needle user having HIV is very remote. Not all injecting drug addicts carry the HIV virus. The virus does not live very long outside the body so catching the virus from a chance injury like this would be very rare. It is more likely to be caught by a healthcare worker getting a "needle-stick" injury, shortly after using the needle on a carrier. . Howver, the chance of catching Hep B or C is much more of a reality. It lives longer outside the body and is easliy caught in such an accident. . As an aside, although I agree with this incident being publicised, I do wonder about the ethics of naming this young child and the possible repercussions of her identity being revealed with this hanging over her. Will the Echo publicise the results of her blood test results if they are positive? The poor child could be ostracised by other parents and children following this report! I do hope that people will be sympathetic toward her and realise that HIV is not a death sentence and cannot be transferred by social contact.
Gerbil112 you clearly are an expert!!!! Am sure you would feel slightly different if this was a member of your family that this had happened to.
[quote][p][bold]gerbil112[/bold] wrote: A agonising time for this poor mother and child, however the chances of the needle user having HIV is very remote. Not all injecting drug addicts carry the HIV virus. The virus does not live very long outside the body so catching the virus from a chance injury like this would be very rare. It is more likely to be caught by a healthcare worker getting a "needle-stick" injury, shortly after using the needle on a carrier. . Howver, the chance of catching Hep B or C is much more of a reality. It lives longer outside the body and is easliy caught in such an accident. . As an aside, although I agree with this incident being publicised, I do wonder about the ethics of naming this young child and the possible repercussions of her identity being revealed with this hanging over her. Will the Echo publicise the results of her blood test results if they are positive? The poor child could be ostracised by other parents and children following this report! I do hope that people will be sympathetic toward her and realise that HIV is not a death sentence and cannot be transferred by social contact.[/p][/quote]Gerbil112 you clearly are an expert!!!! Am sure you would feel slightly different if this was a member of your family that this had happened to. townsend28
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9:44am Thu 31 May 12

Morrigan says...

wonderway wrote:
would be so easy to sort this
all needles issued should be batched numbered and then listed to the person receiving needles then they could be prosecuted for for discarding them in a public place. Have brought this up with NHS but their attitude is it would be against their human rights which is rubbish, it would pin point these parasites who discard needles straight away. So whos got the back bone to instigate this easy simple procedure
That would be impossible to control, as not every drug user gets their needles from the NHS ..... Have a look on-line - you can buy syringes, needles etc at any on-line chemist - and even on Ebay! How on earth could batch numbers help in such situations?
[quote][p][bold]wonderway[/bold] wrote: would be so easy to sort this all needles issued should be batched numbered and then listed to the person receiving needles then they could be prosecuted for for discarding them in a public place. Have brought this up with NHS but their attitude is it would be against their human rights which is rubbish, it would pin point these parasites who discard needles straight away. So whos got the back bone to instigate this easy simple procedure[/p][/quote]That would be impossible to control, as not every drug user gets their needles from the NHS ..... Have a look on-line - you can buy syringes, needles etc at any on-line chemist - and even on Ebay! How on earth could batch numbers help in such situations? Morrigan
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9:56am Thu 31 May 12

MissAnne says...

The fact that the parks manager says that it is rare for needles and paraphernalia to be found is an absolute lie. Kings Park Primary school have found them in the area that the children use on several occasions. Making the children have to stay in doors at lunch time.
The police need to do more, the drug rehabilitation centre needs to be moved and they need to stop pandering to drug users to pacify them, and deal with the issue instead.
I don't see how a disgusting person, such as the one who left a needle lying around is entitled to 'human rights'. They get given more money than a single parent on benefits, privileges and flout the law all the time. And what happens to them, they get treated better than most members of the general public. Its a disgrace!
The fact that the parks manager says that it is rare for needles and paraphernalia to be found is an absolute lie. Kings Park Primary school have found them in the area that the children use on several occasions. Making the children have to stay in doors at lunch time. The police need to do more, the drug rehabilitation centre needs to be moved and they need to stop pandering to drug users to pacify them, and deal with the issue instead. I don't see how a disgusting person, such as the one who left a needle lying around is entitled to 'human rights'. They get given more money than a single parent on benefits, privileges and flout the law all the time. And what happens to them, they get treated better than most members of the general public. Its a disgrace! MissAnne
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10:00am Thu 31 May 12

Cheeks22 says...

Does it really matter whether the user of the needle has HIV or Hepatitis or anything at all for that matter!?
It's disgusting that anyone would be selfish enough to leave needles lying around whether they have been used or not!

A few years back my friend and I were at the beach with her little girl who had luckily fallen asleep in her pram at the time when my friend was centimetres away from standing on a needle! I had to pick the needle up with a hand full of baby wipes and put it in the bin at Boscombe beach. We then told a council worker near by what had happened and where we had put it and his reply was:
"It happens... They tend to be blown off of the cliff tops."
He didn't seem to have a care in the world.
It's disgusting, whether the needle is used or clean!
Does it really matter whether the user of the needle has HIV or Hepatitis or anything at all for that matter!? It's disgusting that anyone would be selfish enough to leave needles lying around whether they have been used or not! A few years back my friend and I were at the beach with her little girl who had luckily fallen asleep in her pram at the time when my friend was centimetres away from standing on a needle! I had to pick the needle up with a hand full of baby wipes and put it in the bin at Boscombe beach. We then told a council worker near by what had happened and where we had put it and his reply was: "It happens... They tend to be blown off of the cliff tops." He didn't seem to have a care in the world. It's disgusting, whether the needle is used or clean! Cheeks22
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10:01am Thu 31 May 12

derek_acorah says...

Obviously the police cannot be expected to patrol areas such as this, to help prevent drug crime. They are fully occupied 'surrounding towns' to prevent the real social ills of society, such as seat belt crimes. After all there can be no excuses for motoring offences.
Obviously the police cannot be expected to patrol areas such as this, to help prevent drug crime. They are fully occupied 'surrounding towns' to prevent the real social ills of society, such as seat belt crimes. After all there can be no excuses for motoring offences. derek_acorah
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10:14am Thu 31 May 12

bmthlad69 says...

townsend28 wrote:
gerbil112 wrote:
A agonising time for this poor mother and child, however the chances of the needle user having HIV is very remote. Not all injecting drug addicts carry the HIV virus. The virus does not live very long outside the body so catching the virus from a chance injury like this would be very rare. It is more likely to be caught by a healthcare worker getting a "needle-stick" injury, shortly after using the needle on a carrier. . Howver, the chance of catching Hep B or C is much more of a reality. It lives longer outside the body and is easliy caught in such an accident. . As an aside, although I agree with this incident being publicised, I do wonder about the ethics of naming this young child and the possible repercussions of her identity being revealed with this hanging over her. Will the Echo publicise the results of her blood test results if they are positive? The poor child could be ostracised by other parents and children following this report! I do hope that people will be sympathetic toward her and realise that HIV is not a death sentence and cannot be transferred by social contact.
Gerbil112 you clearly are an expert!!!! Am sure you would feel slightly different if this was a member of your family that this had happened to.
To be fair I believe gerbil112 was spot on.
I really don't think the girls name and photo should be on this report.

I sincerely hope all works out for the young girl (i'm sure it will be fine)

But the public and other parents will never know as i'm sure the echo will not update everyone.
[quote][p][bold]townsend28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gerbil112[/bold] wrote: A agonising time for this poor mother and child, however the chances of the needle user having HIV is very remote. Not all injecting drug addicts carry the HIV virus. The virus does not live very long outside the body so catching the virus from a chance injury like this would be very rare. It is more likely to be caught by a healthcare worker getting a "needle-stick" injury, shortly after using the needle on a carrier. . Howver, the chance of catching Hep B or C is much more of a reality. It lives longer outside the body and is easliy caught in such an accident. . As an aside, although I agree with this incident being publicised, I do wonder about the ethics of naming this young child and the possible repercussions of her identity being revealed with this hanging over her. Will the Echo publicise the results of her blood test results if they are positive? The poor child could be ostracised by other parents and children following this report! I do hope that people will be sympathetic toward her and realise that HIV is not a death sentence and cannot be transferred by social contact.[/p][/quote]Gerbil112 you clearly are an expert!!!! Am sure you would feel slightly different if this was a member of your family that this had happened to.[/p][/quote]To be fair I believe gerbil112 was spot on. I really don't think the girls name and photo should be on this report. I sincerely hope all works out for the young girl (i'm sure it will be fine) But the public and other parents will never know as i'm sure the echo will not update everyone. bmthlad69
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10:28am Thu 31 May 12

wallydown says...

Despite it being illegal to drink in the street throughout Bournemouth ,in the last couple of weeks in the nice weather ive seen people slumped all over on benches,on the beach and shopping areas surrounded by cans of drink and sporting the obligatory beggers accessory. A scraggy dog.
the druggie crowd in Boscombe seems to be expanding at a rate and now theyre making them a loverly garden to party in at The Cresent, just what is going on in this town ? It just doesnt add up ,the rate of expansion is overwhelming the police resources
Despite it being illegal to drink in the street throughout Bournemouth ,in the last couple of weeks in the nice weather ive seen people slumped all over on benches,on the beach and shopping areas surrounded by cans of drink and sporting the obligatory beggers accessory. A scraggy dog. the druggie crowd in Boscombe seems to be expanding at a rate and now theyre making them a loverly garden to party in at The Cresent, just what is going on in this town ? It just doesnt add up ,the rate of expansion is overwhelming the police resources wallydown
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10:37am Thu 31 May 12

Aviewoneverything says...

What utter scum! If these low lifes want to get high or drink themselves into the ground could they please do it in some dark dank bedsit or filthy alleyway where no one will see or miss you!
What gets me is that we are paying for their habits through benefits which they are intitled to as they have an 'illness'. Its about time the country manned up and told these wasters to either get sorted or lose your benefits. Why do we pay money to these scumbags for doing nothing, whereas poor old Betty who has paid tax all her life gets a measly state pension, has to ration when she can have heating on etc. and lives close to abject poverty? There is something majorly wrong with our priorities in this country
What utter scum! If these low lifes want to get high or drink themselves into the ground could they please do it in some dark dank bedsit or filthy alleyway where no one will see or miss you! What gets me is that we are paying for their habits through benefits which they are intitled to as they have an 'illness'. Its about time the country manned up and told these wasters to either get sorted or lose your benefits. Why do we pay money to these scumbags for doing nothing, whereas poor old Betty who has paid tax all her life gets a measly state pension, has to ration when she can have heating on etc. and lives close to abject poverty? There is something majorly wrong with our priorities in this country Aviewoneverything
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10:53am Thu 31 May 12

Alumchiner says...

As long as you have addicts traveling the length of the country to come to Boscombe for treatment then there will be problems. Lets face it - the 70's conversions, bedsits, Dave Wells properties and drug and alcohol treatment centres doesnt make for a nice place to live
As long as you have addicts traveling the length of the country to come to Boscombe for treatment then there will be problems. Lets face it - the 70's conversions, bedsits, Dave Wells properties and drug and alcohol treatment centres doesnt make for a nice place to live Alumchiner
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11:17am Thu 31 May 12

nonnisrevenge says...

Seriously? The whole point is that regardless of whether or not the poor child has contracted HIV from a discarded needle, she and her family will have to suffer an agonising wait to find this out; rest assured there are plenty other pretty nasty things you could contract from a needle AS WELL AS HIV! Unfortunately there is always a bundle of apologists trying to turn the story round to suit their own views that we should not look down on drug use and understand these poor unfortunates. Its a sad indictment of today’s society when a public park cannot be enjoyed for the purpose of innocent play, oh no, nowadays you have to share these open spaces with people who have scant regard to how their actions can affect others, it shows that their total and utter lack of responsibility endangers the most innocent in our society.
Seriously? The whole point is that regardless of whether or not the poor child has contracted HIV from a discarded needle, she and her family will have to suffer an agonising wait to find this out; rest assured there are plenty other pretty nasty things you could contract from a needle AS WELL AS HIV! Unfortunately there is always a bundle of apologists trying to turn the story round to suit their own views that we should not look down on drug use and understand these poor unfortunates. Its a sad indictment of today’s society when a public park cannot be enjoyed for the purpose of innocent play, oh no, nowadays you have to share these open spaces with people who have scant regard to how their actions can affect others, it shows that their total and utter lack of responsibility endangers the most innocent in our society. nonnisrevenge
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11:23am Thu 31 May 12

BmthNewshound says...

This is the real Bournemouth the council choose not to see.
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Despite spending £m's in Boscombe and the surrounding area the underlying problems remain and until these are faced head on and dealt with nothing will really change.
This is the real Bournemouth the council choose not to see. . Despite spending £m's in Boscombe and the surrounding area the underlying problems remain and until these are faced head on and dealt with nothing will really change. BmthNewshound
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11:51am Thu 31 May 12

gerbil112 says...

townsend28 wrote:
gerbil112 wrote: A agonising time for this poor mother and child, however the chances of the needle user having HIV is very remote. Not all injecting drug addicts carry the HIV virus. The virus does not live very long outside the body so catching the virus from a chance injury like this would be very rare. It is more likely to be caught by a healthcare worker getting a "needle-stick" injury, shortly after using the needle on a carrier. . Howver, the chance of catching Hep B or C is much more of a reality. It lives longer outside the body and is easliy caught in such an accident. . As an aside, although I agree with this incident being publicised, I do wonder about the ethics of naming this young child and the possible repercussions of her identity being revealed with this hanging over her. Will the Echo publicise the results of her blood test results if they are positive? The poor child could be ostracised by other parents and children following this report! I do hope that people will be sympathetic toward her and realise that HIV is not a death sentence and cannot be transferred by social contact.
Gerbil112 you clearly are an expert!!!! Am sure you would feel slightly different if this was a member of your family that this had happened to.
Is being an expert with first-hand experience in dealing with infectious diseases something that a contributor to this site should not be? Are we all supposed to just speculate and deride the Council. Why cannot I, or anyone else for that matter, put a sane balanced view? In what way should I feel different? I have sympathised with the mother and child, and I have suggested that (in reality) people should not be named in this way in case of repercussions in social life. I have staed facts and would feel the same way if it was my family. I would balance probability of getting an infection, based on FACTS, and publicise the incident, but would keep my details out of the press for privacy reasons.
[quote][p][bold]townsend28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gerbil112[/bold] wrote: A agonising time for this poor mother and child, however the chances of the needle user having HIV is very remote. Not all injecting drug addicts carry the HIV virus. The virus does not live very long outside the body so catching the virus from a chance injury like this would be very rare. It is more likely to be caught by a healthcare worker getting a "needle-stick" injury, shortly after using the needle on a carrier. . Howver, the chance of catching Hep B or C is much more of a reality. It lives longer outside the body and is easliy caught in such an accident. . As an aside, although I agree with this incident being publicised, I do wonder about the ethics of naming this young child and the possible repercussions of her identity being revealed with this hanging over her. Will the Echo publicise the results of her blood test results if they are positive? The poor child could be ostracised by other parents and children following this report! I do hope that people will be sympathetic toward her and realise that HIV is not a death sentence and cannot be transferred by social contact.[/p][/quote]Gerbil112 you clearly are an expert!!!! Am sure you would feel slightly different if this was a member of your family that this had happened to.[/p][/quote]Is being an expert with first-hand experience in dealing with infectious diseases something that a contributor to this site should not be? Are we all supposed to just speculate and deride the Council. Why cannot I, or anyone else for that matter, put a sane balanced view? In what way should I feel different? I have sympathised with the mother and child, and I have suggested that (in reality) people should not be named in this way in case of repercussions in social life. I have staed facts and would feel the same way if it was my family. I would balance probability of getting an infection, based on FACTS, and publicise the incident, but would keep my details out of the press for privacy reasons. gerbil112
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11:54am Thu 31 May 12

joncon says...

Aviewoneverything wrote:
What utter scum! If these low lifes want to get high or drink themselves into the ground could they please do it in some dark dank bedsit or filthy alleyway where no one will see or miss you! What gets me is that we are paying for their habits through benefits which they are intitled to as they have an 'illness'. Its about time the country manned up and told these wasters to either get sorted or lose your benefits. Why do we pay money to these scumbags for doing nothing, whereas poor old Betty who has paid tax all her life gets a measly state pension, has to ration when she can have heating on etc. and lives close to abject poverty? There is something majorly wrong with our priorities in this country
You clearly haven't claimed benefits ever in your life because nowadays all the sick are being forced onto jobseekers allowance, and anyone claiming the latter will lose their benefit if they dont shape up. Please check your facts before sounding off./
[quote][p][bold]Aviewoneverything[/bold] wrote: What utter scum! If these low lifes want to get high or drink themselves into the ground could they please do it in some dark dank bedsit or filthy alleyway where no one will see or miss you! What gets me is that we are paying for their habits through benefits which they are intitled to as they have an 'illness'. Its about time the country manned up and told these wasters to either get sorted or lose your benefits. Why do we pay money to these scumbags for doing nothing, whereas poor old Betty who has paid tax all her life gets a measly state pension, has to ration when she can have heating on etc. and lives close to abject poverty? There is something majorly wrong with our priorities in this country[/p][/quote]You clearly haven't claimed benefits ever in your life because nowadays all the sick are being forced onto jobseekers allowance, and anyone claiming the latter will lose their benefit if they dont shape up. Please check your facts before sounding off./ joncon
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11:59am Thu 31 May 12

jen.e.p says...

BmthNewshound wrote:
This is the real Bournemouth the council choose not to see.
.
Despite spending £m's in Boscombe and the surrounding area the underlying problems remain and until these are faced head on and dealt with nothing will really change.
well said!!!
[quote][p][bold]BmthNewshound[/bold] wrote: This is the real Bournemouth the council choose not to see. . Despite spending £m's in Boscombe and the surrounding area the underlying problems remain and until these are faced head on and dealt with nothing will really change.[/p][/quote]well said!!! jen.e.p
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12:01pm Thu 31 May 12

High Treason says...

derek_acorah wrote:
Obviously the police cannot be expected to patrol areas such as this, to help prevent drug crime. They are fully occupied 'surrounding towns' to prevent the real social ills of society, such as seat belt crimes. After all there can be no excuses for motoring offences.
What a crass comment. It is not just seat belt crimes, it is mobile phone users, drunks and drug users, speeding and no insurance etc. The fact is someone is more likely to die from a drunk driver than an infection from a discarded needle.
[quote][p][bold]derek_acorah[/bold] wrote: Obviously the police cannot be expected to patrol areas such as this, to help prevent drug crime. They are fully occupied 'surrounding towns' to prevent the real social ills of society, such as seat belt crimes. After all there can be no excuses for motoring offences.[/p][/quote]What a crass comment. It is not just seat belt crimes, it is mobile phone users, drunks and drug users, speeding and no insurance etc. The fact is someone is more likely to die from a drunk driver than an infection from a discarded needle. High Treason
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12:05pm Thu 31 May 12

High Treason says...

Hmm, the usual comments saying the council and police should do something about it. Yeah right but many parents should also do something about their off spring abusing drink and drugs. Or do they think council tax should pay for their upbringing along with everything else.
Hmm, the usual comments saying the council and police should do something about it. Yeah right but many parents should also do something about their off spring abusing drink and drugs. Or do they think council tax should pay for their upbringing along with everything else. High Treason
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12:06pm Thu 31 May 12

gerbil112 says...

townsend28 wrote:
bmthlad69 wrote:
townsend28 wrote:
gerbil112 wrote: A agonising time for this poor mother and child, however the chances of the needle user having HIV is very remote. Not all injecting drug addicts carry the HIV virus. The virus does not live very long outside the body so catching the virus from a chance injury like this would be very rare. It is more likely to be caught by a healthcare worker getting a "needle-stick" injury, shortly after using the needle on a carrier. . Howver, the chance of catching Hep B or C is much more of a reality. It lives longer outside the body and is easliy caught in such an accident. . As an aside, although I agree with this incident being publicised, I do wonder about the ethics of naming this young child and the possible repercussions of her identity being revealed with this hanging over her. Will the Echo publicise the results of her blood test results if they are positive? The poor child could be ostracised by other parents and children following this report! I do hope that people will be sympathetic toward her and realise that HIV is not a death sentence and cannot be transferred by social contact.
Gerbil112 you clearly are an expert!!!! Am sure you would feel slightly different if this was a member of your family that this had happened to.
To be fair I believe gerbil112 was spot on. I really don't think the girls name and photo should be on this report. I sincerely hope all works out for the young girl (i'm sure it will be fine) But the public and other parents will never know as i'm sure the echo will not update everyone.
Your clearly another idiot with no kids
townsend28, you clearly have a problem with your emotions getting the better over your reasoning. This has nothing to do with having children, ANYONE could have stepped or fallen on the needle. The Council cannot scour the whole of the Borough every second of the day, just in case a needle is being dropped by an irresponsible person in a public place. "Needles and Haystacks" spring to mind. People need to be vigilant and report such findings, the Coucil (and its workers) cannot be everywhere at the same time.
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On a similar thread, people discard drinking bottles and cigarett butts all over the place. I bet half the people reading this that smoke in their cars discard their butts through the window! Both of these carry saliva traces that could potentially support bacteria and vuruses.
[quote][p][bold]townsend28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bmthlad69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]townsend28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gerbil112[/bold] wrote: A agonising time for this poor mother and child, however the chances of the needle user having HIV is very remote. Not all injecting drug addicts carry the HIV virus. The virus does not live very long outside the body so catching the virus from a chance injury like this would be very rare. It is more likely to be caught by a healthcare worker getting a "needle-stick" injury, shortly after using the needle on a carrier. . Howver, the chance of catching Hep B or C is much more of a reality. It lives longer outside the body and is easliy caught in such an accident. . As an aside, although I agree with this incident being publicised, I do wonder about the ethics of naming this young child and the possible repercussions of her identity being revealed with this hanging over her. Will the Echo publicise the results of her blood test results if they are positive? The poor child could be ostracised by other parents and children following this report! I do hope that people will be sympathetic toward her and realise that HIV is not a death sentence and cannot be transferred by social contact.[/p][/quote]Gerbil112 you clearly are an expert!!!! Am sure you would feel slightly different if this was a member of your family that this had happened to.[/p][/quote]To be fair I believe gerbil112 was spot on. I really don't think the girls name and photo should be on this report. I sincerely hope all works out for the young girl (i'm sure it will be fine) But the public and other parents will never know as i'm sure the echo will not update everyone.[/p][/quote]Your clearly another idiot with no kids[/p][/quote]townsend28, you clearly have a problem with your emotions getting the better over your reasoning. This has nothing to do with having children, ANYONE could have stepped or fallen on the needle. The Council cannot scour the whole of the Borough every second of the day, just in case a needle is being dropped by an irresponsible person in a public place. "Needles and Haystacks" spring to mind. People need to be vigilant and report such findings, the Coucil (and its workers) cannot be everywhere at the same time. . On a similar thread, people discard drinking bottles and cigarett butts all over the place. I bet half the people reading this that smoke in their cars discard their butts through the window! Both of these carry saliva traces that could potentially support bacteria and vuruses. gerbil112
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12:06pm Thu 31 May 12

BackOfTheNet says...

nonnisrevenge says...
11:17am Thu 31 May 12

"Its a sad indictment of today’s society when a public park cannot be enjoyed for the purpose of innocent play, oh no, nowadays you have to share these open spaces with people who have scant regard to how their actions can affect others, it shows that their total and utter lack of responsibility endangers the most innocent in our society"

There are also drug users leaving needles now, as well as dog walkers that let their little darlings crap everywhere.

To be fair, the posters that think the girl's name should be in the press are probably the same people that would campaign to have the child removed from school for potentially being HIV+
nonnisrevenge says... 11:17am Thu 31 May 12 "Its a sad indictment of today’s society when a public park cannot be enjoyed for the purpose of innocent play, oh no, nowadays you have to share these open spaces with people who have scant regard to how their actions can affect others, it shows that their total and utter lack of responsibility endangers the most innocent in our society" There are also drug users leaving needles now, as well as dog walkers that let their little darlings crap everywhere. To be fair, the posters that think the girl's name should be in the press are probably the same people that would campaign to have the child removed from school for potentially being HIV+ BackOfTheNet
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12:10pm Thu 31 May 12

Morgan Leadbitter says...

CockleKate wrote:
I lived in Bournemouth in the 50's, I'm glad I don't live there now.
So I take where you live now has no heroin users or any drug problem on any scale? If you could give me the general area that would be great. I'll up and leave, moving my wife and children to Englands only drug free town.
[quote][p][bold]CockleKate[/bold] wrote: I lived in Bournemouth in the 50's, I'm glad I don't live there now.[/p][/quote]So I take where you live now has no heroin users or any drug problem on any scale? If you could give me the general area that would be great. I'll up and leave, moving my wife and children to Englands only drug free town. Morgan Leadbitter
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12:24pm Thu 31 May 12

lisa401 says...

wonderway wrote:
would be so easy to sort this
all needles issued should be batched numbered and then listed to the person receiving needles then they could be prosecuted for for discarding them in a public place. Have brought this up with NHS but their attitude is it would be against their human rights which is rubbish, it would pin point these parasites who discard needles straight away. So whos got the back bone to instigate this easy simple procedure
That's an excellent idea in theory, but in reality it probably wouldn't work because prosecution would be very difficult due to the fact that addicts often have transient lifestyles. Also, would someone who is using really care about how they are going to dispose of their needles safely? Also do you really think that users in dire need of their 'fix' are going to be worrying about being prosecuted? I think not. The answer is to de-criminalise controlled drug use so that users can inject in a safe clean environment - just as we do with Methadone (I am a pharmacist) and have access to rehab facilities (if they choose that option). If we continue to keep users on the fringes of society then this sort of thing will continue to happen - I'm surprised it's not a more regular occurrence.
[quote][p][bold]wonderway[/bold] wrote: would be so easy to sort this all needles issued should be batched numbered and then listed to the person receiving needles then they could be prosecuted for for discarding them in a public place. Have brought this up with NHS but their attitude is it would be against their human rights which is rubbish, it would pin point these parasites who discard needles straight away. So whos got the back bone to instigate this easy simple procedure[/p][/quote]That's an excellent idea in theory, but in reality it probably wouldn't work because prosecution would be very difficult due to the fact that addicts often have transient lifestyles. Also, would someone who is using really care about how they are going to dispose of their needles safely? Also do you really think that users in dire need of their 'fix' are going to be worrying about being prosecuted? I think not. The answer is to de-criminalise controlled drug use so that users can inject in a safe clean environment - just as we do with Methadone (I am a pharmacist) and have access to rehab facilities (if they choose that option). If we continue to keep users on the fringes of society then this sort of thing will continue to happen - I'm surprised it's not a more regular occurrence. lisa401
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12:40pm Thu 31 May 12

lisa401 says...

Why do certain people insist on calling people 'idiots' etc. whenever the comments section is open? Can't you just accept that some people hold opinions that might differ from your own? How juvenile (you know who you are). And you probably wonder why a)your post gets removed and b)why we aren't able to comment on many stories. Grow up!!
Why do certain people insist on calling people 'idiots' etc. whenever the comments section is open? Can't you just accept that some people hold opinions that might differ from your own? How juvenile (you know who you are). And you probably wonder why a)your post gets removed and b)why we aren't able to comment on many stories. Grow up!! lisa401
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12:45pm Thu 31 May 12

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH says...

How much longer do have to wait until read about a child being blinded by coming into contact with dog poop???
How much longer do have to wait until read about a child being blinded by coming into contact with dog poop??? ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH
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12:56pm Thu 31 May 12

EGHH says...

Ah Boscombe, need we say any more!
Ah Boscombe, need we say any more! EGHH
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12:58pm Thu 31 May 12

The Liberal says...

gerbil112 wrote:
townsend28 wrote:
gerbil112 wrote:
townsend28 wrote:
gerbil112 wrote: A agonising time for this poor mother and child, however the chances of the needle user having HIV is very remote. Not all injecting drug addicts carry the HIV virus. The virus does not live very long outside the body so catching the virus from a chance injury like this would be very rare. It is more likely to be caught by a healthcare worker getting a "needle-stick" injury, shortly after using the needle on a carrier. . Howver, the chance of catching Hep B or C is much more of a reality. It lives longer outside the body and is easliy caught in such an accident. . As an aside, although I agree with this incident being publicised, I do wonder about the ethics of naming this young child and the possible repercussions of her identity being revealed with this hanging over her. Will the Echo publicise the results of her blood test results if they are positive? The poor child could be ostracised by other parents and children following this report! I do hope that people will be sympathetic toward her and realise that HIV is not a death sentence and cannot be transferred by social contact.
Gerbil112 you clearly are an expert!!!! Am sure you would feel slightly different if this was a member of your family that this had happened to.
Is being an expert with first-hand experience in dealing with infectious diseases something that a contributor to this site should not be? Are we all supposed to just speculate and deride the Council. Why cannot I, or anyone else for that matter, put a sane balanced view? In what way should I feel different? I have sympathised with the mother and child, and I have suggested that (in reality) people should not be named in this way in case of repercussions in social life. I have staed facts and would feel the same way if it was my family. I would balance probability of getting an infection, based on FACTS, and publicise the incident, but would keep my details out of the press for privacy reasons.
Sorry not an expert clearly a Council worker doing what they do best, covering their own arses for the **** job they do!!!
34 years in a Heath Care Profession does not mean that I work for the Council. Ensure brain in gear before opening mouth. If you are here to wind people up with your inane "slagging", you will be reported to the Echo and have the privilidge of being able to post here removed.
They've already been reported by me! The site rules clearly state that users are not allowed to make insulting/abusive remarks to other posters.
 
I also agree that the Echo should not have identified the child in question, given the sensitivity about HIV – doesn't this go against the PCC guidelines?
[quote][p][bold]gerbil112[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]townsend28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gerbil112[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]townsend28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gerbil112[/bold] wrote: A agonising time for this poor mother and child, however the chances of the needle user having HIV is very remote. Not all injecting drug addicts carry the HIV virus. The virus does not live very long outside the body so catching the virus from a chance injury like this would be very rare. It is more likely to be caught by a healthcare worker getting a "needle-stick" injury, shortly after using the needle on a carrier. . Howver, the chance of catching Hep B or C is much more of a reality. It lives longer outside the body and is easliy caught in such an accident. . As an aside, although I agree with this incident being publicised, I do wonder about the ethics of naming this young child and the possible repercussions of her identity being revealed with this hanging over her. Will the Echo publicise the results of her blood test results if they are positive? The poor child could be ostracised by other parents and children following this report! I do hope that people will be sympathetic toward her and realise that HIV is not a death sentence and cannot be transferred by social contact.[/p][/quote]Gerbil112 you clearly are an expert!!!! Am sure you would feel slightly different if this was a member of your family that this had happened to.[/p][/quote]Is being an expert with first-hand experience in dealing with infectious diseases something that a contributor to this site should not be? Are we all supposed to just speculate and deride the Council. Why cannot I, or anyone else for that matter, put a sane balanced view? In what way should I feel different? I have sympathised with the mother and child, and I have suggested that (in reality) people should not be named in this way in case of repercussions in social life. I have staed facts and would feel the same way if it was my family. I would balance probability of getting an infection, based on FACTS, and publicise the incident, but would keep my details out of the press for privacy reasons.[/p][/quote]Sorry not an expert clearly a Council worker doing what they do best, covering their own arses for the **** job they do!!![/p][/quote]34 years in a Heath Care Profession does not mean that I work for the Council. Ensure brain in gear before opening mouth. If you are here to wind people up with your inane "slagging", you will be reported to the Echo and have the privilidge of being able to post here removed.[/p][/quote]They've already been reported by me! The site rules clearly state that users are not allowed to make insulting/abusive remarks to other posters.   I also agree that the Echo should not have identified the child in question, given the sensitivity about HIV – doesn't this go against the PCC guidelines? The Liberal
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1:14pm Thu 31 May 12

Say-it-how-it-is says...

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote:
How much longer do have to wait until read about a child being blinded by coming into contact with dog poop???
This isn't about dogs but a needle. Since where does it say dog poo on here. This poor child got hurt by a needle and all you care about is talking about dog poo, how sad.
[quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: How much longer do have to wait until read about a child being blinded by coming into contact with dog poop???[/p][/quote]This isn't about dogs but a needle. Since where does it say dog poo on here. This poor child got hurt by a needle and all you care about is talking about dog poo, how sad. Say-it-how-it-is
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1:36pm Thu 31 May 12

Morgan Leadbitter says...

Say-it-how-it-is wrote:
ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote: How much longer do have to wait until read about a child being blinded by coming into contact with dog poop???
This isn't about dogs but a needle. Since where does it say dog poo on here. This poor child got hurt by a needle and all you care about is talking about dog poo, how sad.
The point is that the chances of our local children catching horrible infections from dog faeces are far higher than them catching HIV from a dirty needle. Those infections can lead to blindness. You put needle and drugs and child all in the same prose and people are up in arms about the remote possibility of infection. Shame that we dont have the same reaction to a far more common problem.
[quote][p][bold]Say-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: How much longer do have to wait until read about a child being blinded by coming into contact with dog poop???[/p][/quote]This isn't about dogs but a needle. Since where does it say dog poo on here. This poor child got hurt by a needle and all you care about is talking about dog poo, how sad.[/p][/quote]The point is that the chances of our local children catching horrible infections from dog faeces are far higher than them catching HIV from a dirty needle. Those infections can lead to blindness. You put needle and drugs and child all in the same prose and people are up in arms about the remote possibility of infection. Shame that we dont have the same reaction to a far more common problem. Morgan Leadbitter
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1:42pm Thu 31 May 12

lisa401 says...

Morgan Leadbitter wrote:
Say-it-how-it-is wrote:
ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote: How much longer do have to wait until read about a child being blinded by coming into contact with dog poop???
This isn't about dogs but a needle. Since where does it say dog poo on here. This poor child got hurt by a needle and all you care about is talking about dog poo, how sad.
The point is that the chances of our local children catching horrible infections from dog faeces are far higher than them catching HIV from a dirty needle. Those infections can lead to blindness. You put needle and drugs and child all in the same prose and people are up in arms about the remote possibility of infection. Shame that we dont have the same reaction to a far more common problem.
Statistically the chances of both are remote. Also I don't know why the emphasis seems to be on HIV because there is far more of a likelihood of contracting something else i.e. Hepatitis than HIV from a needle, it's akin to saying that every drug user is AIDS ridden, which of course is nonsense.
[quote][p][bold]Morgan Leadbitter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Say-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: How much longer do have to wait until read about a child being blinded by coming into contact with dog poop???[/p][/quote]This isn't about dogs but a needle. Since where does it say dog poo on here. This poor child got hurt by a needle and all you care about is talking about dog poo, how sad.[/p][/quote]The point is that the chances of our local children catching horrible infections from dog faeces are far higher than them catching HIV from a dirty needle. Those infections can lead to blindness. You put needle and drugs and child all in the same prose and people are up in arms about the remote possibility of infection. Shame that we dont have the same reaction to a far more common problem.[/p][/quote]Statistically the chances of both are remote. Also I don't know why the emphasis seems to be on HIV because there is far more of a likelihood of contracting something else i.e. Hepatitis than HIV from a needle, it's akin to saying that every drug user is AIDS ridden, which of course is nonsense. lisa401
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1:47pm Thu 31 May 12

stevobath says...

wallydown wrote:
Despite it being illegal to drink in the street throughout Bournemouth ,in the last couple of weeks in the nice weather ive seen people slumped all over on benches,on the beach and shopping areas surrounded by cans of drink and sporting the obligatory beggers accessory. A scraggy dog.
the druggie crowd in Boscombe seems to be expanding at a rate and now theyre making them a loverly garden to party in at The Cresent, just what is going on in this town ? It just doesnt add up ,the rate of expansion is overwhelming the police resources
It should be enforced. anyone drinking alcohol,that includes the 'Chardonnay Brigade' who sit having a drink with their picnics.

Ive witnessed cans of beer being confiscated,yet a large family group, with bottles of wine & beer werent even spoken to.
It should be strictly enforced to ALL.
As for your comments about beggars...talk about reinforcing stereotypes.
[quote][p][bold]wallydown[/bold] wrote: Despite it being illegal to drink in the street throughout Bournemouth ,in the last couple of weeks in the nice weather ive seen people slumped all over on benches,on the beach and shopping areas surrounded by cans of drink and sporting the obligatory beggers accessory. A scraggy dog. the druggie crowd in Boscombe seems to be expanding at a rate and now theyre making them a loverly garden to party in at The Cresent, just what is going on in this town ? It just doesnt add up ,the rate of expansion is overwhelming the police resources[/p][/quote]It should be enforced. anyone drinking alcohol,that includes the 'Chardonnay Brigade' who sit having a drink with their picnics. Ive witnessed cans of beer being confiscated,yet a large family group, with bottles of wine & beer werent even spoken to. It should be strictly enforced to ALL. As for your comments about beggars...talk about reinforcing stereotypes. stevobath
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1:59pm Thu 31 May 12

stevobath says...

As someone has sensibly pointed out.HIV virus dies quickly once exposed to air.The biggest & real danger here,is the chances of getting Hepatitis A/B/C.Of course that wouldnt make for such a lurid headline,even though Hep B/C strains can be life threatening & far more common than people realise.Hep C especially is a rather awful virus.It lurks in your body for years with no symptoms initially.Once it gets a grip there is a real danger of Liver complications including Cancer.
Contrary to popular belief its not just Junkies that are prone to this.More people are being exposed to Hep C through unsafe sex & until guidelines on screening were toughened up, by blood products such as transfusions.I know someone who died as a direct result of catching Hep C through a bad batch of blood.
I think the public should be made more aware of Hepatitis & the dangers involved. Id like to add that I hope the little girl is OK & that the Skank who left dirty needles like this suffers from Karmic comeback.
As someone has sensibly pointed out.HIV virus dies quickly once exposed to air.The biggest & real danger here,is the chances of getting Hepatitis A/B/C.Of course that wouldnt make for such a lurid headline,even though Hep B/C strains can be life threatening & far more common than people realise.Hep C especially is a rather awful virus.It lurks in your body for years with no symptoms initially.Once it gets a grip there is a real danger of Liver complications including Cancer. Contrary to popular belief its not just Junkies that are prone to this.More people are being exposed to Hep C through unsafe sex & until guidelines on screening were toughened up, by blood products such as transfusions.I know someone who died as a direct result of catching Hep C through a bad batch of blood. I think the public should be made more aware of Hepatitis & the dangers involved. Id like to add that I hope the little girl is OK & that the Skank who left dirty needles like this suffers from Karmic comeback. stevobath
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3:57pm Thu 31 May 12

nonnisrevenge says...

BackOfTheNet wrote:
nonnisrevenge says... 11:17am Thu 31 May 12 "Its a sad indictment of today’s society when a public park cannot be enjoyed for the purpose of innocent play, oh no, nowadays you have to share these open spaces with people who have scant regard to how their actions can affect others, it shows that their total and utter lack of responsibility endangers the most innocent in our society" There are also drug users leaving needles now, as well as dog walkers that let their little darlings crap everywhere. To be fair, the posters that think the girl's name should be in the press are probably the same people that would campaign to have the child removed from school for potentially being HIV+
Yes, agreed
[quote][p][bold]BackOfTheNet[/bold] wrote: nonnisrevenge says... 11:17am Thu 31 May 12 "Its a sad indictment of today’s society when a public park cannot be enjoyed for the purpose of innocent play, oh no, nowadays you have to share these open spaces with people who have scant regard to how their actions can affect others, it shows that their total and utter lack of responsibility endangers the most innocent in our society" There are also drug users leaving needles now, as well as dog walkers that let their little darlings crap everywhere. To be fair, the posters that think the girl's name should be in the press are probably the same people that would campaign to have the child removed from school for potentially being HIV+[/p][/quote]Yes, agreed nonnisrevenge
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4:06pm Thu 31 May 12

Old Harry says...

Mr N James wrote:
I dont think its so much as the drunks that leave needles although drunks are a major problem in that area.But the scum that are drug users and they are SCUM.
The real SCUM are the peddlers of the drugs. I don't mean the sad users who are attempting to earn enough for their next fix, but those at the top of the food chain who are making a fortune and often living amongst us in apparent respectability. A recent major case in this area highlights the point. Look closely at those wealthy individuals in the most sort after parts of our community, many a door is hiding secrets.
[quote][p][bold]Mr N James[/bold] wrote: I dont think its so much as the drunks that leave needles although drunks are a major problem in that area.But the scum that are drug users and they are SCUM.[/p][/quote]The real SCUM are the peddlers of the drugs. I don't mean the sad users who are attempting to earn enough for their next fix, but those at the top of the food chain who are making a fortune and often living amongst us in apparent respectability. A recent major case in this area highlights the point. Look closely at those wealthy individuals in the most sort after parts of our community, many a door is hiding secrets. Old Harry
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4:14pm Thu 31 May 12

nonnisrevenge says...

Going off on a slight tangent but still loosely relevant to this subject, I wonder whether someone more informed than me is able to tell me what kind of success rate is achieved within the re-hab centre's, 1 in 10 etc? On the assumption that it would not only be local addicts attending the clinics, would it not be unreasonable to assume that if it were, for arguments sake 1 in 10 and say 5 come from 'out of area', then that potentially leads to an extra 5 addicts in the town therefore increasing (however slightly) the likelihood of this incident occurring again sooner rather than later. I am in no way presuming that all users are as irresponsible as the one/s that left their needle in the park but I think its worth noting.
Going off on a slight tangent but still loosely relevant to this subject, I wonder whether someone more informed than me is able to tell me what kind of success rate is achieved within the re-hab centre's, 1 in 10 etc? On the assumption that it would not only be local addicts attending the clinics, would it not be unreasonable to assume that if it were, for arguments sake 1 in 10 and say 5 come from 'out of area', then that potentially leads to an extra 5 addicts in the town therefore increasing (however slightly) the likelihood of this incident occurring again sooner rather than later. I am in no way presuming that all users are as irresponsible as the one/s that left their needle in the park but I think its worth noting. nonnisrevenge
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4:34pm Thu 31 May 12

Linguist says...

gerbil112 wrote:
townsend28 wrote:
gerbil112 wrote: A agonising time for this poor mother and child, however the chances of the needle user having HIV is very remote. Not all injecting drug addicts carry the HIV virus. The virus does not live very long outside the body so catching the virus from a chance injury like this would be very rare. It is more likely to be caught by a healthcare worker getting a "needle-stick" injury, shortly after using the needle on a carrier. . Howver, the chance of catching Hep B or C is much more of a reality. It lives longer outside the body and is easliy caught in such an accident. . As an aside, although I agree with this incident being publicised, I do wonder about the ethics of naming this young child and the possible repercussions of her identity being revealed with this hanging over her. Will the Echo publicise the results of her blood test results if they are positive? The poor child could be ostracised by other parents and children following this report! I do hope that people will be sympathetic toward her and realise that HIV is not a death sentence and cannot be transferred by social contact.
Gerbil112 you clearly are an expert!!!! Am sure you would feel slightly different if this was a member of your family that this had happened to.
Is being an expert with first-hand experience in dealing with infectious diseases something that a contributor to this site should not be? Are we all supposed to just speculate and deride the Council. Why cannot I, or anyone else for that matter, put a sane balanced view? In what way should I feel different? I have sympathised with the mother and child, and I have suggested that (in reality) people should not be named in this way in case of repercussions in social life. I have staed facts and would feel the same way if it was my family. I would balance probability of getting an infection, based on FACTS, and publicise the incident, but would keep my details out of the press for privacy reasons.
I agree wholeheartedly with Gerbil on all points, and specifically on the naming the family.
[quote][p][bold]gerbil112[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]townsend28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gerbil112[/bold] wrote: A agonising time for this poor mother and child, however the chances of the needle user having HIV is very remote. Not all injecting drug addicts carry the HIV virus. The virus does not live very long outside the body so catching the virus from a chance injury like this would be very rare. It is more likely to be caught by a healthcare worker getting a "needle-stick" injury, shortly after using the needle on a carrier. . Howver, the chance of catching Hep B or C is much more of a reality. It lives longer outside the body and is easliy caught in such an accident. . As an aside, although I agree with this incident being publicised, I do wonder about the ethics of naming this young child and the possible repercussions of her identity being revealed with this hanging over her. Will the Echo publicise the results of her blood test results if they are positive? The poor child could be ostracised by other parents and children following this report! I do hope that people will be sympathetic toward her and realise that HIV is not a death sentence and cannot be transferred by social contact.[/p][/quote]Gerbil112 you clearly are an expert!!!! Am sure you would feel slightly different if this was a member of your family that this had happened to.[/p][/quote]Is being an expert with first-hand experience in dealing with infectious diseases something that a contributor to this site should not be? Are we all supposed to just speculate and deride the Council. Why cannot I, or anyone else for that matter, put a sane balanced view? In what way should I feel different? I have sympathised with the mother and child, and I have suggested that (in reality) people should not be named in this way in case of repercussions in social life. I have staed facts and would feel the same way if it was my family. I would balance probability of getting an infection, based on FACTS, and publicise the incident, but would keep my details out of the press for privacy reasons.[/p][/quote]I agree wholeheartedly with Gerbil on all points, and specifically on the naming the family. Linguist
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4:47pm Thu 31 May 12

High Treason says...

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote:
How much longer do have to wait until read about a child being blinded by coming into contact with dog poop???
Toxoplasmosis, a parasite that can be carried by cats and dogs. The risk of blindness from this infection is very small anyway. Generally toxoplama produces only a mild self limiting illness.
Therefore cats in gardens are also a problem but then you just like to have a go at owners of dogs.
Most people use the dog bins, in my area they are often overflowing. Children are more likely to get injured from glass beer bottles in the bushes at the local nature reserve.
[quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: How much longer do have to wait until read about a child being blinded by coming into contact with dog poop???[/p][/quote]Toxoplasmosis, a parasite that can be carried by cats and dogs. The risk of blindness from this infection is very small anyway. Generally toxoplama produces only a mild self limiting illness. Therefore cats in gardens are also a problem but then you just like to have a go at owners of dogs. Most people use the dog bins, in my area they are often overflowing. Children are more likely to get injured from glass beer bottles in the bushes at the local nature reserve. High Treason
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5:08pm Thu 31 May 12

O'Reilly says...

wallydown wrote:
Despite it being illegal to drink in the street throughout Bournemouth ,in the last couple of weeks in the nice weather ive seen people slumped all over on benches,on the beach and shopping areas surrounded by cans of drink and sporting the obligatory beggers accessory. A scraggy dog.
the druggie crowd in Boscombe seems to be expanding at a rate and now theyre making them a loverly garden to party in at The Cresent, just what is going on in this town ? It just doesnt add up ,the rate of expansion is overwhelming the police resources
I think you'll find that they have moved up to Boscombe Cliff behind the Barrett flats, getting p*ss*d to their hearts content, annoying all and sundry, with nary a 'bizzie' in sight.
[quote][p][bold]wallydown[/bold] wrote: Despite it being illegal to drink in the street throughout Bournemouth ,in the last couple of weeks in the nice weather ive seen people slumped all over on benches,on the beach and shopping areas surrounded by cans of drink and sporting the obligatory beggers accessory. A scraggy dog. the druggie crowd in Boscombe seems to be expanding at a rate and now theyre making them a loverly garden to party in at The Cresent, just what is going on in this town ? It just doesnt add up ,the rate of expansion is overwhelming the police resources[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that they have moved up to Boscombe Cliff behind the Barrett flats, getting p*ss*d to their hearts content, annoying all and sundry, with nary a 'bizzie' in sight. O'Reilly
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5:14pm Thu 31 May 12

O'Reilly says...

When are the Council going to empty the dog and litter bins around the area? Most are overflowing. I think you'd better get something done before the Bank Holiday weekend, or visitors are going to get a very bad impression of the Town.
When are the Council going to empty the dog and litter bins around the area? Most are overflowing. I think you'd better get something done before the Bank Holiday weekend, or visitors are going to get a very bad impression of the Town. O'Reilly
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5:26pm Thu 31 May 12

Alumchiner says...

very true , just been to Kings park and they are all overflowing....
very true , just been to Kings park and they are all overflowing.... Alumchiner
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6:12pm Thu 31 May 12

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH says...

Dog poop is everywhere, not only on pavements, but the grass and even in King's Park playground. This is a very serious issue that needs to be dealt with and taken seriously!
Dog poop is everywhere, not only on pavements, but the grass and even in King's Park playground. This is a very serious issue that needs to be dealt with and taken seriously! ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH
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6:26pm Thu 31 May 12

puglove says...

Disgusting, hope this little girl gets the all clear, poor little mite will have to have uncomfortable blood tests now and her parents will have a very anxious wait, at least she is not old enough to have to suffer the wait and worry
Disgusting, hope this little girl gets the all clear, poor little mite will have to have uncomfortable blood tests now and her parents will have a very anxious wait, at least she is not old enough to have to suffer the wait and worry puglove
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7:47pm Thu 31 May 12

O'Reilly says...

Sadly, it is the times we live in.
Do you honestly think these people and the drug pushers on a day down from London couldn't be policed? There is an alternative programme going on, which one is not allowed to mention.
Sadly, it is the times we live in. Do you honestly think these people and the drug pushers on a day down from London couldn't be policed? There is an alternative programme going on, which one is not allowed to mention. O'Reilly
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8:04pm Thu 31 May 12

homerjsimpson1979 says...

Don't panic. The police will advertise another crack down and then claim that the streets in Boscombe are clean!!

I think we all need to realise that Boscombe will always be the scum capital of Dorset because the Police and Council couldn't care less about it.
Don't panic. The police will advertise another crack down and then claim that the streets in Boscombe are clean!! I think we all need to realise that Boscombe will always be the scum capital of Dorset because the Police and Council couldn't care less about it. homerjsimpson1979
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8:36pm Thu 31 May 12

Slem_1990 says...

Mr N James wrote:
I dont think its so much as the drunks that leave needles although drunks are a major problem in that area.But the scum that are drug users and they are SCUM.
First I must say how awful this is, but not at all suprising. This sort of thing could happen in any town in the country and serious steps must be taken by HM government to remedy this!

However...

Why are drug users Scum? Don't for one moment think I am defending this, but that kind of attitude is unhelpful in the extreme. As a sober individual you must be able to recognise that drug use and abuse is not as simple as people being 'scum'. It is a VERY complex problem with an equally complax solution for which I don't have the answer.

What I do know is that it will take a lot of patience and love (agapé, not eros) to overcome a huge societal problem, which stems from much deeper sources.

No doubt 'scum' exist, but the vast majority of people in this situation need to be helped, not endlessly lambasted. They are in an unimaginable rut. We have all been in bad places in our lives, some worse than others, but imagine if we had not had the support from friends and family that we did, it might be us on the park bench with a needle hanging from our forearm.
[quote][p][bold]Mr N James[/bold] wrote: I dont think its so much as the drunks that leave needles although drunks are a major problem in that area.But the scum that are drug users and they are SCUM.[/p][/quote]First I must say how awful this is, but not at all suprising. This sort of thing could happen in any town in the country and serious steps must be taken by HM government to remedy this! However... Why are drug users Scum? Don't for one moment think I am defending this, but that kind of attitude is unhelpful in the extreme. As a sober individual you must be able to recognise that drug use and abuse is not as simple as people being 'scum'. It is a VERY complex problem with an equally complax solution for which I don't have the answer. What I do know is that it will take a lot of patience and love (agapé, not eros) to overcome a huge societal problem, which stems from much deeper sources. No doubt 'scum' exist, but the vast majority of people in this situation need to be helped, not endlessly lambasted. They are in an unimaginable rut. We have all been in bad places in our lives, some worse than others, but imagine if we had not had the support from friends and family that we did, it might be us on the park bench with a needle hanging from our forearm. Slem_1990
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9:48pm Thu 31 May 12

Lewis boy says...

Thanks to all our friends for the support I am Sianns grandad who has been a bit upset lately but please people don't blame the council operatives BLAME THE PERSON WHO LEFT IT THERE remember the old saying "Its like looking like a NEEDLE in a hay stack" unfortunately my grandaughter found it. Thanks Andy for your concern RMD
Thanks to all our friends for the support I am Sianns grandad who has been a bit upset lately but please people don't blame the council operatives BLAME THE PERSON WHO LEFT IT THERE remember the old saying "Its like looking like a NEEDLE in a hay stack" unfortunately my grandaughter found it. Thanks Andy for your concern RMD Lewis boy
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9:51pm Thu 31 May 12

Lewis boy says...

Thanks to all our friends for the support I am Sianns grandad who has been a bit upset lately but please people don't blame the council operatives BLAME THE PERSON WHO LEFT IT THERE remember the old saying "Its like looking like a NEEDLE in a hay stack" unfortunately my grandaughter found it. Thanks Andy for your concern RMD
Thanks to all our friends for the support I am Sianns grandad who has been a bit upset lately but please people don't blame the council operatives BLAME THE PERSON WHO LEFT IT THERE remember the old saying "Its like looking like a NEEDLE in a hay stack" unfortunately my grandaughter found it. Thanks Andy for your concern RMD Lewis boy
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11:21pm Thu 31 May 12

mumble says...

Slem_1990 wrote:
Mr N James wrote:
I dont think its so much as the drunks that leave needles although drunks are a major problem in that area.But the scum that are drug users and they are SCUM.
First I must say how awful this is, but not at all suprising. This sort of thing could happen in any town in the country and serious steps must be taken by HM government to remedy this!

However...

Why are drug users Scum? Don't for one moment think I am defending this, but that kind of attitude is unhelpful in the extreme. As a sober individual you must be able to recognise that drug use and abuse is not as simple as people being 'scum'. It is a VERY complex problem with an equally complax solution for which I don't have the answer.

What I do know is that it will take a lot of patience and love (agapé, not eros) to overcome a huge societal problem, which stems from much deeper sources.

No doubt 'scum' exist, but the vast majority of people in this situation need to be helped, not endlessly lambasted. They are in an unimaginable rut. We have all been in bad places in our lives, some worse than others, but imagine if we had not had the support from friends and family that we did, it might be us on the park bench with a needle hanging from our forearm.
Nice well balanced comment Slem 1990, eloquently put.
[quote][p][bold]Slem_1990[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr N James[/bold] wrote: I dont think its so much as the drunks that leave needles although drunks are a major problem in that area.But the scum that are drug users and they are SCUM.[/p][/quote]First I must say how awful this is, but not at all suprising. This sort of thing could happen in any town in the country and serious steps must be taken by HM government to remedy this! However... Why are drug users Scum? Don't for one moment think I am defending this, but that kind of attitude is unhelpful in the extreme. As a sober individual you must be able to recognise that drug use and abuse is not as simple as people being 'scum'. It is a VERY complex problem with an equally complax solution for which I don't have the answer. What I do know is that it will take a lot of patience and love (agapé, not eros) to overcome a huge societal problem, which stems from much deeper sources. No doubt 'scum' exist, but the vast majority of people in this situation need to be helped, not endlessly lambasted. They are in an unimaginable rut. We have all been in bad places in our lives, some worse than others, but imagine if we had not had the support from friends and family that we did, it might be us on the park bench with a needle hanging from our forearm.[/p][/quote]Nice well balanced comment Slem 1990, eloquently put. mumble
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11:28pm Thu 31 May 12

sar72 says...

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote:
How much longer do have to wait until read about a child being blinded by coming into contact with dog poop???
What causes toxoplasmosis?
Toxoplasmosis is caused by infection with a common parasite called Toxoplasma gondii (T. gondii). T. gondii can be found in:

•undercooked or raw meat
•cured meat, such as parma ham or salami
•unpasteurised goats' milk
•cat faeces
•soil or cat litter that is contaminated with infected cat faeces


Up to a third of the UK population will have a toxoplasmosis infection at some point in their lives. Once infected, a person is immune from further infection for life.

Toxoplasmosis in pregnancy and congenital toxoplasmosis are rare, with about three babies in every 100,000 born with the condition in the UK.

I THINK THAT THERE WILL BE A HIGHER DEATH RATE OF PEOPLE READING ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH'S OBSESSION ON DOG POO THAN A CHILD GOING BLIND!
[quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: How much longer do have to wait until read about a child being blinded by coming into contact with dog poop???[/p][/quote]What causes toxoplasmosis? Toxoplasmosis is caused by infection with a common parasite called Toxoplasma gondii (T. gondii). T. gondii can be found in: •undercooked or raw meat •cured meat, such as parma ham or salami •unpasteurised goats' milk •cat faeces •soil or cat litter that is contaminated with infected cat faeces Up to a third of the UK population will have a toxoplasmosis infection at some point in their lives. Once infected, a person is immune from further infection for life. Toxoplasmosis in pregnancy and congenital toxoplasmosis are rare, with about three babies in every 100,000 born with the condition in the UK. I THINK THAT THERE WILL BE A HIGHER DEATH RATE OF PEOPLE READING ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH'S OBSESSION ON DOG POO THAN A CHILD GOING BLIND! sar72
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11:41pm Thu 31 May 12

s-pb2 says...

O'Reilly wrote:
wallydown wrote:
Despite it being illegal to drink in the street throughout Bournemouth ,in the last couple of weeks in the nice weather ive seen people slumped all over on benches,on the beach and shopping areas surrounded by cans of drink and sporting the obligatory beggers accessory. A scraggy dog.
the druggie crowd in Boscombe seems to be expanding at a rate and now theyre making them a loverly garden to party in at The Cresent, just what is going on in this town ? It just doesnt add up ,the rate of expansion is overwhelming the police resources
I think you'll find that they have moved up to Boscombe Cliff behind the Barrett flats, getting p*ss*d to their hearts content, annoying all and sundry, with nary a 'bizzie' in sight.
Your absolutely right. They are up on Boscombe cliff top making life very unpleasant for holidaymakers and locals. They particulatly hassle young women on their own. I would advise women on their own not to go up there.
[quote][p][bold]O'Reilly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wallydown[/bold] wrote: Despite it being illegal to drink in the street throughout Bournemouth ,in the last couple of weeks in the nice weather ive seen people slumped all over on benches,on the beach and shopping areas surrounded by cans of drink and sporting the obligatory beggers accessory. A scraggy dog. the druggie crowd in Boscombe seems to be expanding at a rate and now theyre making them a loverly garden to party in at The Cresent, just what is going on in this town ? It just doesnt add up ,the rate of expansion is overwhelming the police resources[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that they have moved up to Boscombe Cliff behind the Barrett flats, getting p*ss*d to their hearts content, annoying all and sundry, with nary a 'bizzie' in sight.[/p][/quote]Your absolutely right. They are up on Boscombe cliff top making life very unpleasant for holidaymakers and locals. They particulatly hassle young women on their own. I would advise women on their own not to go up there. s-pb2
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6:48am Fri 1 Jun 12

EGHH says...

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote:
Dog poop is everywhere, not only on pavements, but the grass and even in King's Park playground. This is a very serious issue that needs to be dealt with and taken seriously!
Oh right, more anti-dog drivel. Dog poo is organic and will rot away given time. Used syringes aren't. Also dogs don't carry Hepatitis or HIV. I'm seriously worried about your poo fixation!!
[quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: Dog poop is everywhere, not only on pavements, but the grass and even in King's Park playground. This is a very serious issue that needs to be dealt with and taken seriously![/p][/quote]Oh right, more anti-dog drivel. Dog poo is organic and will rot away given time. Used syringes aren't. Also dogs don't carry Hepatitis or HIV. I'm seriously worried about your poo fixation!! EGHH
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8:04am Fri 1 Jun 12

FAT TONE says...

Its dog rough at Boscombe,
makes Turlin Moor look high class, Sandybanks and Canford Cliffs look out,
We here at the Moor are after your beach blue flag awards.
Its dog rough at Boscombe, makes Turlin Moor look high class, Sandybanks and Canford Cliffs look out, We here at the Moor are after your beach blue flag awards. FAT TONE
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8:27am Fri 1 Jun 12

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH says...

Listen to me now, not that it's any of your business and I've never mentioned this before, but I am a single parent of a young child who walks with me everywhere in town (and parks).

The amount of times my child has trodden in dog mess is astounding. Almost every day. Including TWICE in the playground in King's Park. Sometimes we don't realize until we are home and it's been trodden into the carpet, in the living room.

I have a right to be annoyed. Having lived in the States for multiple years, not once, not ever did we experience such a stinking,filthy and downright disgusting sight in public. Some people have more RESPECT than others.
Listen to me now, not that it's any of your business and I've never mentioned this before, but I am a single parent of a young child who walks with me everywhere in town (and parks). The amount of times my child has trodden in dog mess is astounding. Almost every day. Including TWICE in the playground in King's Park. Sometimes we don't realize until we are home and it's been trodden into the carpet, in the living room. I have a right to be annoyed. Having lived in the States for multiple years, not once, not ever did we experience such a stinking,filthy and downright disgusting sight in public. Some people have more RESPECT than others. ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH
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8:31am Fri 1 Jun 12

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH says...

and if it isnt so dangerous towards children why is there a sign stating the dangers of dog poop at the park in Boscombe Spa above the pier?
and if it isnt so dangerous towards children why is there a sign stating the dangers of dog poop at the park in Boscombe Spa above the pier? ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH
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8:31am Fri 1 Jun 12

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH says...

and if it isnt so dangerous towards children why is there a sign stating the dangers of dog poop at the park in Boscombe Spa above the pier?
and if it isnt so dangerous towards children why is there a sign stating the dangers of dog poop at the park in Boscombe Spa above the pier? ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH
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8:32am Fri 1 Jun 12

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH says...

and if it isnt so dangerous towards children why is there a sign stating the dangers of dog poop at the park in Boscombe Spa above the pier?
and if it isnt so dangerous towards children why is there a sign stating the dangers of dog poop at the park in Boscombe Spa above the pier? ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH
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8:33am Fri 1 Jun 12

ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH says...

and if it isnt so dangerous towards children why is there a sign stating the dangers of dog poop at the park in Boscombe Spa above the pier?
and if it isnt so dangerous towards children why is there a sign stating the dangers of dog poop at the park in Boscombe Spa above the pier? ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH
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8:41am Fri 1 Jun 12

nonnisrevenge says...

sar72 wrote:
ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH wrote: How much longer do have to wait until read about a child being blinded by coming into contact with dog poop???
What causes toxoplasmosis? Toxoplasmosis is caused by infection with a common parasite called Toxoplasma gondii (T. gondii). T. gondii can be found in: •undercooked or raw meat •cured meat, such as parma ham or salami •unpasteurised goats' milk •cat faeces •soil or cat litter that is contaminated with infected cat faeces Up to a third of the UK population will have a toxoplasmosis infection at some point in their lives. Once infected, a person is immune from further infection for life. Toxoplasmosis in pregnancy and congenital toxoplasmosis are rare, with about three babies in every 100,000 born with the condition in the UK. I THINK THAT THERE WILL BE A HIGHER DEATH RATE OF PEOPLE READING ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH'S OBSESSION ON DOG POO THAN A CHILD GOING BLIND!
That's all very well and good, however that doesn't in anyway shape or form negate the responsibility of those dog owners that don't clear up after themselves; I understand perfectly well what 'ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH' is saying. She is perfectly entitled to her view point, the fact that others choose to belittle that by suggesting that she has a poo fixation/obsession is a little crass to say the least.
[quote][p][bold]sar72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH[/bold] wrote: How much longer do have to wait until read about a child being blinded by coming into contact with dog poop???[/p][/quote]What causes toxoplasmosis? Toxoplasmosis is caused by infection with a common parasite called Toxoplasma gondii (T. gondii). T. gondii can be found in: •undercooked or raw meat •cured meat, such as parma ham or salami •unpasteurised goats' milk •cat faeces •soil or cat litter that is contaminated with infected cat faeces Up to a third of the UK population will have a toxoplasmosis infection at some point in their lives. Once infected, a person is immune from further infection for life. Toxoplasmosis in pregnancy and congenital toxoplasmosis are rare, with about three babies in every 100,000 born with the condition in the UK. I THINK THAT THERE WILL BE A HIGHER DEATH RATE OF PEOPLE READING ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH'S OBSESSION ON DOG POO THAN A CHILD GOING BLIND![/p][/quote]That's all very well and good, however that doesn't in anyway shape or form negate the responsibility of those dog owners that don't clear up after themselves; I understand perfectly well what 'ILOVEBOURNEMOUTH' is saying. She is perfectly entitled to her view point, the fact that others choose to belittle that by suggesting that she has a poo fixation/obsession is a little crass to say the least. nonnisrevenge
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10:48am Fri 1 Jun 12

lisa401 says...

Slem_1990 wrote:
Mr N James wrote:
I dont think its so much as the drunks that leave needles although drunks are a major problem in that area.But the scum that are drug users and they are SCUM.
First I must say how awful this is, but not at all suprising. This sort of thing could happen in any town in the country and serious steps must be taken by HM government to remedy this!

However...

Why are drug users Scum? Don't for one moment think I am defending this, but that kind of attitude is unhelpful in the extreme. As a sober individual you must be able to recognise that drug use and abuse is not as simple as people being 'scum'. It is a VERY complex problem with an equally complax solution for which I don't have the answer.

What I do know is that it will take a lot of patience and love (agapé, not eros) to overcome a huge societal problem, which stems from much deeper sources.

No doubt 'scum' exist, but the vast majority of people in this situation need to be helped, not endlessly lambasted. They are in an unimaginable rut. We have all been in bad places in our lives, some worse than others, but imagine if we had not had the support from friends and family that we did, it might be us on the park bench with a needle hanging from our forearm.
Excellent post Slem_1990.
[quote][p][bold]Slem_1990[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr N James[/bold] wrote: I dont think its so much as the drunks that leave needles although drunks are a major problem in that area.But the scum that are drug users and they are SCUM.[/p][/quote]First I must say how awful this is, but not at all suprising. This sort of thing could happen in any town in the country and serious steps must be taken by HM government to remedy this! However... Why are drug users Scum? Don't for one moment think I am defending this, but that kind of attitude is unhelpful in the extreme. As a sober individual you must be able to recognise that drug use and abuse is not as simple as people being 'scum'. It is a VERY complex problem with an equally complax solution for which I don't have the answer. What I do know is that it will take a lot of patience and love (agapé, not eros) to overcome a huge societal problem, which stems from much deeper sources. No doubt 'scum' exist, but the vast majority of people in this situation need to be helped, not endlessly lambasted. They are in an unimaginable rut. We have all been in bad places in our lives, some worse than others, but imagine if we had not had the support from friends and family that we did, it might be us on the park bench with a needle hanging from our forearm.[/p][/quote]Excellent post Slem_1990. lisa401
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11:11am Fri 1 Jun 12

afternoon_tea says...

I hope the little girl is going to be ok, I'd be horrified if my toddler had picked up a dirty needle. I feel so sorry for them and pray she will be fine.

Look, whether it's needles, glass or dog poo there is an issue about the safety of our children playing in the local parks. We use Kings Park all the time as well and thankfully have never come across needles though dog poo is a problem (both in the park and in the roads leading to it). Those who say it's 'anti-dog' to complain about the problem do dog owners a dis-service. My 3 year old goes to Kings Park to play and to meet the dogs he loves as we are unable to have one ourselves! 95% of owners are just as cross about dog poo not being cleaned up as we are!!

It's just so sad that some people's lives are in such a state that they either don't think or don't care about leaving dangerous needles around. I don't know the answer but I'm sure hatred isn't it.

Lots of early intervention and support to help families while their kids are growing up is a start, from children's centres to support in schools, to help build self-esteem and encourage education and give kids the best chances in life and let's hope it all helps to reduce those who grow up and turn to drugs.

A sad situation all round.
I hope the little girl is going to be ok, I'd be horrified if my toddler had picked up a dirty needle. I feel so sorry for them and pray she will be fine. Look, whether it's needles, glass or dog poo there is an issue about the safety of our children playing in the local parks. We use Kings Park all the time as well and thankfully have never come across needles though dog poo is a problem (both in the park and in the roads leading to it). Those who say it's 'anti-dog' to complain about the problem do dog owners a dis-service. My 3 year old goes to Kings Park to play and to meet the dogs he loves as we are unable to have one ourselves! 95% of owners are just as cross about dog poo not being cleaned up as we are!! It's just so sad that some people's lives are in such a state that they either don't think or don't care about leaving dangerous needles around. I don't know the answer but I'm sure hatred isn't it. Lots of early intervention and support to help families while their kids are growing up is a start, from children's centres to support in schools, to help build self-esteem and encourage education and give kids the best chances in life and let's hope it all helps to reduce those who grow up and turn to drugs. A sad situation all round. afternoon_tea
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10:18pm Fri 1 Jun 12

stevobath says...

Old Harry wrote:
Mr N James wrote:
I dont think its so much as the drunks that leave needles although drunks are a major problem in that area.But the scum that are drug users and they are SCUM.
The real SCUM are the peddlers of the drugs. I don't mean the sad users who are attempting to earn enough for their next fix, but those at the top of the food chain who are making a fortune and often living amongst us in apparent respectability. A recent major case in this area highlights the point. Look closely at those wealthy individuals in the most sort after parts of our community, many a door is hiding secrets.
I said the same thing.

The ones that make the real money & live off the profits seldom have addictions of any kind.
Yes the Guy who Lived in Talbot Woods was a classic example.There was another huge case in the mid 90s.The guy was a rich Iranian who had a legit business importing/exporting luxury cars to & from the Middle East.His home was in Canford Cliffs & worth around £1.5 million at that time.A more respectable guy you could not have met...outwardly anyway.
There are SCUM in society but they are not just drug addicts..Who do we demonise more? A junkie or a kiddie fiddler?....
[quote][p][bold]Old Harry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr N James[/bold] wrote: I dont think its so much as the drunks that leave needles although drunks are a major problem in that area.But the scum that are drug users and they are SCUM.[/p][/quote]The real SCUM are the peddlers of the drugs. I don't mean the sad users who are attempting to earn enough for their next fix, but those at the top of the food chain who are making a fortune and often living amongst us in apparent respectability. A recent major case in this area highlights the point. Look closely at those wealthy individuals in the most sort after parts of our community, many a door is hiding secrets.[/p][/quote]I said the same thing. The ones that make the real money & live off the profits seldom have addictions of any kind. Yes the Guy who Lived in Talbot Woods was a classic example.There was another huge case in the mid 90s.The guy was a rich Iranian who had a legit business importing/exporting luxury cars to & from the Middle East.His home was in Canford Cliffs & worth around £1.5 million at that time.A more respectable guy you could not have met...outwardly anyway. There are SCUM in society but they are not just drug addicts..Who do we demonise more? A junkie or a kiddie fiddler?.... stevobath
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1:30pm Sat 2 Jun 12

sarcher says...

How do they diagnose someone as being infected with HIV when there are no diagnostic tests?

Can someone point me to a HIV test that is used to diagnose HIV infection.
How do they diagnose someone as being infected with HIV when there are no diagnostic tests? Can someone point me to a HIV test that is used to diagnose HIV infection. sarcher
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9:16am Sun 3 Jun 12

ashleycross says...

So we've got urban foxes but can't hunt them as hunting is banned. Maybe the dog owners using baiter need to organise an urban hunt to drive out the junkies. The blooding could become a great new heritage project for Poole.
So we've got urban foxes but can't hunt them as hunting is banned. Maybe the dog owners using baiter need to organise an urban hunt to drive out the junkies. The blooding could become a great new heritage project for Poole. ashleycross
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1:55pm Sun 3 Jun 12

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[quote][p][bold]bfkdsob0fda[/bold] wrote: urlsnub.com/pul --- free shipping competitive price any size available accept the paypal Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33 Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL 2,TL3) $35 Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&g) $35 Tshirts (ed hardy,lacoste) $16 Jean(True Religion,ed hardy,coogi) $30 Sunglasses(Oakey, coach,gucci,Armaini) $16 New era cap $15 Bikini (Ed hardy) $25 --- mineokmalls.com[/p][/quote]If you choose to advertise under a story of a small child who trod on a discarded, used needle in a park, you must really be desperate for business. It must be awful to be in such a position and to have to wait so long for the results of numerous tests? I have a toddler and can't begin to imagine being in that situation. (I don't know how we got there but on the poop issue, I was trained to check hills I wanted to roll down for poop on the way up). Best wishes to the Parkinson family. spooki
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4:52pm Sun 3 Jun 12

DUCKFEEDER says...

It seems that drug misuse is rife in Bournemouth, i have just started a new job near the triangle, on my first day there, i saw a user throw a syringe into a public rubbish bin outside of Tesco's,i went in and told the staff who very quickly dealt with it, the following day i nearly trod on a used syringe that had been discarded half way down Poole Hill.
It seems that drug misuse is rife in Bournemouth, i have just started a new job near the triangle, on my first day there, i saw a user throw a syringe into a public rubbish bin outside of Tesco's,i went in and told the staff who very quickly dealt with it, the following day i nearly trod on a used syringe that had been discarded half way down Poole Hill. DUCKFEEDER
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7:05pm Mon 4 Jun 12

afternoon_tea says...

DUCKFEEDER wrote:
It seems that drug misuse is rife in Bournemouth, i have just started a new job near the triangle, on my first day there, i saw a user throw a syringe into a public rubbish bin outside of Tesco's,i went in and told the staff who very quickly dealt with it, the following day i nearly trod on a used syringe that had been discarded half way down Poole Hill.
That's terrible DUCKFEEDER, absolutely shocking. What a sad state of affairs isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]DUCKFEEDER[/bold] wrote: It seems that drug misuse is rife in Bournemouth, i have just started a new job near the triangle, on my first day there, i saw a user throw a syringe into a public rubbish bin outside of Tesco's,i went in and told the staff who very quickly dealt with it, the following day i nearly trod on a used syringe that had been discarded half way down Poole Hill.[/p][/quote]That's terrible DUCKFEEDER, absolutely shocking. What a sad state of affairs isn't it? afternoon_tea
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9:59pm Mon 4 Jun 12

chocolatelover26 says...

I remember when I was younger, my school took my year group on a trip to streetwise (I'm not sure if it's still open today), and we were educated about the dangers on the beaches and parks etc. The thing is though, eleven years on it is still a nationwide problem, but it takes a case like this to bring it to everybody's attention. The government are more worried about rising the tuition fees for students or things that are going on elsewhere, than these social problems that are posing as a serious threat to our lives and communities in the UK. I think its time that amendments to the law were made with stricter punishments/fines for those in breach. The government need to also take a different approach to educating people to the dangers and the impact that it has on people's lives. Streetwise was great for my school, but everybody, particularly the young, should be informed about these sorts of things more. Even programming on the television would be sufficient enough to help prevent it to an extent. I just hope that for the sake of the little girl and her family that everything turns out ok.
I remember when I was younger, my school took my year group on a trip to streetwise (I'm not sure if it's still open today), and we were educated about the dangers on the beaches and parks etc. The thing is though, eleven years on it is still a nationwide problem, but it takes a case like this to bring it to everybody's attention. The government are more worried about rising the tuition fees for students or things that are going on elsewhere, than these social problems that are posing as a serious threat to our lives and communities in the UK. I think its time that amendments to the law were made with stricter punishments/fines for those in breach. The government need to also take a different approach to educating people to the dangers and the impact that it has on people's lives. Streetwise was great for my school, but everybody, particularly the young, should be informed about these sorts of things more. Even programming on the television would be sufficient enough to help prevent it to an extent. I just hope that for the sake of the little girl and her family that everything turns out ok. chocolatelover26
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6:14pm Tue 5 Jun 12

ScoobyVic says...

gerbil112 wrote:
A agonising time for this poor mother and child, however the chances of the needle user having HIV is very remote. Not all injecting drug addicts carry the HIV virus. The virus does not live very long outside the body so catching the virus from a chance injury like this would be very rare. It is more likely to be caught by a healthcare worker getting a "needle-stick" injury, shortly after using the needle on a carrier.
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Howver, the chance of catching Hep B or C is much more of a reality. It lives longer outside the body and is easliy caught in such an accident.
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As an aside, although I agree with this incident being publicised, I do wonder about the ethics of naming this young child and the possible repercussions of her identity being revealed with this hanging over her. Will the Echo publicise the results of her blood test results if they are positive? The poor child could be ostracised by other parents and children following this report! I do hope that people will be sympathetic toward her and realise that HIV is not a death sentence and cannot be transferred by social contact.
Well said, I was also wondering what would happen if this young girl is HIV Positive? Some people like you say are not as understanding as others when it comes to this disease. I have a couple of friends who have HIV and like you say, it's not a death sentance and is treatable nowdays. I sincerely hope her results come back negative as having it is bad enough without everyone who reads the local paper knowing you have it.
[quote][p][bold]gerbil112[/bold] wrote: A agonising time for this poor mother and child, however the chances of the needle user having HIV is very remote. Not all injecting drug addicts carry the HIV virus. The virus does not live very long outside the body so catching the virus from a chance injury like this would be very rare. It is more likely to be caught by a healthcare worker getting a "needle-stick" injury, shortly after using the needle on a carrier. . Howver, the chance of catching Hep B or C is much more of a reality. It lives longer outside the body and is easliy caught in such an accident. . As an aside, although I agree with this incident being publicised, I do wonder about the ethics of naming this young child and the possible repercussions of her identity being revealed with this hanging over her. Will the Echo publicise the results of her blood test results if they are positive? The poor child could be ostracised by other parents and children following this report! I do hope that people will be sympathetic toward her and realise that HIV is not a death sentence and cannot be transferred by social contact.[/p][/quote]Well said, I was also wondering what would happen if this young girl is HIV Positive? Some people like you say are not as understanding as others when it comes to this disease. I have a couple of friends who have HIV and like you say, it's not a death sentance and is treatable nowdays. I sincerely hope her results come back negative as having it is bad enough without everyone who reads the local paper knowing you have it. ScoobyVic
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3:15pm Wed 6 Jun 12

I like wine :) says...

lisa401 wrote:
Slem_1990 wrote:
Mr N James wrote: I dont think its so much as the drunks that leave needles although drunks are a major problem in that area.But the scum that are drug users and they are SCUM.
First I must say how awful this is, but not at all suprising. This sort of thing could happen in any town in the country and serious steps must be taken by HM government to remedy this! However... Why are drug users Scum? Don't for one moment think I am defending this, but that kind of attitude is unhelpful in the extreme. As a sober individual you must be able to recognise that drug use and abuse is not as simple as people being 'scum'. It is a VERY complex problem with an equally complax solution for which I don't have the answer. What I do know is that it will take a lot of patience and love (agapé, not eros) to overcome a huge societal problem, which stems from much deeper sources. No doubt 'scum' exist, but the vast majority of people in this situation need to be helped, not endlessly lambasted. They are in an unimaginable rut. We have all been in bad places in our lives, some worse than others, but imagine if we had not had the support from friends and family that we did, it might be us on the park bench with a needle hanging from our forearm.
Excellent post Slem_1990.
I know of two very similar cases, one concerning my small child digging up several needles to decorate her sandcastle on Boscombe beach. We haven't been back there since.... All parents need to be vigilant all the time for all potential accidents. I'm not sure if needle users are issued with their own sharps boxes. I'm not sure that the family should have exposed the child's identity, I most certainly would never do such a thing( I suffered enough stigmatism for having chronic eczema) I sent letters to local schools, play groups services when we had a similar incident. I hope the child is okay and the family are well supported. It's very sad that we have drug users in family areas, I'm not sure what the answer is.
[quote][p][bold]lisa401[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Slem_1990[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr N James[/bold] wrote: I dont think its so much as the drunks that leave needles although drunks are a major problem in that area.But the scum that are drug users and they are SCUM.[/p][/quote]First I must say how awful this is, but not at all suprising. This sort of thing could happen in any town in the country and serious steps must be taken by HM government to remedy this! However... Why are drug users Scum? Don't for one moment think I am defending this, but that kind of attitude is unhelpful in the extreme. As a sober individual you must be able to recognise that drug use and abuse is not as simple as people being 'scum'. It is a VERY complex problem with an equally complax solution for which I don't have the answer. What I do know is that it will take a lot of patience and love (agapé, not eros) to overcome a huge societal problem, which stems from much deeper sources. No doubt 'scum' exist, but the vast majority of people in this situation need to be helped, not endlessly lambasted. They are in an unimaginable rut. We have all been in bad places in our lives, some worse than others, but imagine if we had not had the support from friends and family that we did, it might be us on the park bench with a needle hanging from our forearm.[/p][/quote]Excellent post Slem_1990.[/p][/quote]I know of two very similar cases, one concerning my small child digging up several needles to decorate her sandcastle on Boscombe beach. We haven't been back there since.... All parents need to be vigilant all the time for all potential accidents. I'm not sure if needle users are issued with their own sharps boxes. I'm not sure that the family should have exposed the child's identity, I most certainly would never do such a thing( I suffered enough stigmatism for having chronic eczema) I sent letters to local schools, play groups services when we had a similar incident. I hope the child is okay and the family are well supported. It's very sad that we have drug users in family areas, I'm not sure what the answer is. I like wine :)
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