Bournemouth council leader Peter Charon resigns (From Bournemouth Echo)

Fantastic news , Now we just need to get rid of beesley , its still early in the year so a fresh start is still possible, cut some of the dead would and hangers on.
Bournemouth deserves some honest councillors that are just not in it for themselfs , Come on Mr Beesley give us the cherry on the cake we so deserve !

Just out of interest, how do you pronounce ‘Charon’? Is it as in the mythological ferryman of Hades?

Jetwasher wrote:
Fantastic news , Now we just need to get rid of beesley , its still early in the year so a fresh start is still possible, cut some of the dead would and hangers on.
Bournemouth deserves some honest councillors that are just not in it for themselfs , Come on Mr Beesley give us the cherry on the cake we so deserve !

Spot on!

One down, one to go.If the new leader has any sense s/he will sack Beesley as deputy leader and remove him from the cabinet.
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Hopefully councillors will learn from this and hold the future leader to account. They should remember that they were all elected to the council to serve the people of Bournemouth and not just to serve their own interests.

Don't come back.

"Hopefully councillors will learn from this and hold the future leader to account."

Yes, the same councillors who put him there in the first place. The same councillors who dragged their heels over the dismissal of the previous leader (McLaughlin), authorised the re-purchase of the Imax, the handing over of large parts of Kings Park to developers, continued to waste money on the reef and did nothing whilst decent councillors and whistleblowers were removed from their posts.

As much as there maybe a certain amount of satidfaction to be had from the departure of this councillor it is no more than a face saving exercise - brought about by outside pressure than any sudden discovery of principles.

The town will continue to be handed over to private developers, it's just the sleight of hand will be a little less 'amateurish'.

Does anyone actually beleive that Charon and Beesley got into local politics for any other reason than self interest? Charon was or is a developer, bet that was handy for his developer mates, and wasn't Beesley involved in a conflict of interest case where he gave building or planning permission t an ex business partner or some such sleaze?

We now need someone with integrity, an education, emotional as well as fiscal intelligence and a proffessional attitude to the role of serving the town. Nicola Greene appears to have cross party respect and after two male failures in Tweve months a woman who has already proven track record and is well liked may be an very good choice. Hope we don't get another inflated ego macho jerk.

Nicola Greene is the way forward ,would also be a smack in the face for the corrupt two.

Congratulations Peter!
You have made a decision in your role as a Tory that for once I agree with. Enjoy the rest as much as we will all enjoy the rest from your blogs..... Oh sorry I forgot you stopped doing them once you benefited from the Conlib coalition in April 2010.

Before everyone gets too excited, i hear it on good authority that Cllr Peter Charon is to resign from his seat as councillor for Redhill & Northbourne and the tories are hellbent on selecting non other that porngate ex leader Cllr Stephen Macloughlin to stand in his place!!!! Beesley is likely to be put in as an interim leader to give Macloughlin a chance to prepare for his 2012 tory leadership contest. His bid is likely to be backed by Cllr Bob Chapman, Cllr Malcolm Davies, Cllr David Smith, Cllr Nick King, Cllr Nicola Greene, Cllr Robert Lawton and the majority of the other tories will be bullied into supporting him. Before we all wholeheartedly back Cllr Macloughlin as our leader for the town. let us just remind ourselves of the appalling leadership that dominated bournemouth between 2007-2010.

Ahoy Brethren,
Me crew do seriously fear that ‘figurehead’ that were known as a ‘Charon’ may well be set upon by mallets and sharpened chisels then painted probably the same monotonous blue. Then the sheets & strings be affixed to manipulate this ‘new leader’ but it’ll be the same greedy fingers that control the farce. It be a right shame that important and necessary qualities to lead by example with honesty, integrity, selflessness and true humanity have to fly a ‘political’ pennant from its masthead rather than utilizing experience of such a responsibility.
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P.S. yer had yer chance Midshipman Charon but thee were always closer to the ‘heads’ than the ‘wheel’

privateyebmouth wrote:
Before everyone gets too excited, i hear it on good authority that Cllr Peter Charon is to resign from his seat as councillor for Redhill & Northbourne and the tories are hellbent on selecting non other that porngate ex leader Cllr Stephen Macloughlin to stand in his place!!!! Beesley is likely to be put in as an interim leader to give Macloughlin a chance to prepare for his 2012 tory leadership contest. His bid is likely to be backed by Cllr Bob Chapman, Cllr Malcolm Davies, Cllr David Smith, Cllr Nick King, Cllr Nicola Greene, Cllr Robert Lawton and the majority of the other tories will be bullied into supporting him. Before we all wholeheartedly back Cllr Macloughlin as our leader for the town. let us just remind ourselves of the appalling leadership that dominated bournemouth between 2007-2010.

In Mays elections the voters in Queens Park rejected MacLoughlin so if this story is true they will have to convince the people of Redhill & Northbourne to vote for him.
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Such a tactic would be playing into the hands of opposition groups. It might be worth opposition groups putting their differences to one side and all back a single candidate to stand against the Tories if they do select MacLoughlin.

If the ones who got Charon out ,back Beesley then its back to square one.

Suggest we all put on street parties to celebrate this news!

BmthNewshound wrote:

privateyebmouth wrote:
Before everyone gets too excited, i hear it on good authority that Cllr Peter Charon is to resign from his seat as councillor for Redhill & Northbourne and the tories are hellbent on selecting non other that porngate ex leader Cllr Stephen Macloughlin to stand in his place!!!! Beesley is likely to be put in as an interim leader to give Macloughlin a chance to prepare for his 2012 tory leadership contest. His bid is likely to be backed by Cllr Bob Chapman, Cllr Malcolm Davies, Cllr David Smith, Cllr Nick King, Cllr Nicola Greene, Cllr Robert Lawton and the majority of the other tories will be bullied into supporting him. Before we all wholeheartedly back Cllr Macloughlin as our leader for the town. let us just remind ourselves of the appalling leadership that dominated bournemouth between 2007-2010.

In Mays elections the voters in Queens Park rejected MacLoughlin so if this story is true they will have to convince the people of Redhill & Northbourne to vote for him.
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Such a tactic would be playing into the hands of opposition groups. It might be worth opposition groups putting their differences to one side and all back a single candidate to stand against the Tories if they do select MacLoughlin.

I agree with you BmthNewshound, but when have the tories on Bournemouth Council ever considered the public??? Especially when Macloughlin was in charge. Macloughlin, protegee of Bob Chapman is going to get lots of support from the inner circle that controls bournemouth council. I don't know how charon ever managed to make it as leader as he was never part of the circle. it was a fluke.

By the way I am not convinced with all this support for nicola greene. Don't forget she spend most of 2007 trying to secure her husband Mike the candidacy for Bournemouth West parliamentary seat which went to Conor Burns. It was her that then got him elected to bournemouth council. Mike is a very egotistical ex councillor for hampstead in london (despite living in Bournemouth). However, he is not always the slickest of people and here is him getting embarassed on live national radio:

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=P3cSdK81P
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HILLARIOUS SO FUNNY

If macloughlin doesn't get the leadership i guess we could have this bloke.

Charon got in on a mixture of divide and rule, with a bit of bully thrown in. He got it wrong and he thought he didnt need his fellow councillors. You're not a leader which tells people what to do, your a leader who goes along with the majority or you coerce the majority to do what you want. Charon fell into the trap that the Council was his business and he could do what he wanted as he was in "charge".

I dont think the Tories will try and pull MacLaughlin again into the mix, its too much of a risk. They have power and uniting the opposition against him is politcal suicide, it failed in Queens Park and it would fail again. He has too much dirt stuck to him for that. Why would they risk denting their majority or losing it like that. I think that rumour is mischief making from the lapdog camp.

The tories have a problem in that there is no obvious leader and the position is pretty much a poisoned chalice. Who wants to heal the Charon divisions? Who wants to step into the spotlight and take over? The only person who really wants it is Beesley and he's tainted enough already.

The only opposition thats available locally is internally within the Tories. The party was divided into pro and against Charon lines. Now Charon is gone (and good riddance to that embarasment), there is nothing to uinify for, so the next leader will have to unite the party or face the same problems as Charon. But who wants to manage that and who has the skill to do it?

Macloughlin disgraced himself, the Conservative group and the entire Council not so much because of the **** but because of his complete disregard to laid down procedures. If the group thinks he should run again for Ward Councillor, they are saying that the entire fiasco was of no regard.
Every national newspaper, radio and tv station carried the news.....and it was ridiculed on "Have I got News for You"
Do B'mth Councillors really live in such an isolated bubble?
As for various Cllrs. being "bullied" into supporting him or any other candidate, the mind boggles ....ridiculous, weak idiots! What is the point of having any Ward Councillors if all they do is to allow themselves to be bullied?
It's so disheatening to have had personal knowledge of the bullying tactics employed by both Macloughlin, Charon and Beesley. Did you know Council staff receive emails informing them they are not allowed to comment on various things - such as Mouchel, the Imax, the Surf Reef, Deprivation in Boscombe etc. etc. ???
Staff can be the subject of disciplinary proceedures .....but Councillors cannot be "sacked" they were voted in by the electorate - they can only be taken off the Cabinate or Panels and loose some money ...and they are not supposed to be there for the money!

This is probably the best action that Mr. Charon has taken in his political career. What the Conservative Party need to do now is to ensure that a leader is elected who favours the people of Bournemouth, and not what that person wants or believes to be for the good of the town.
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Already we have those who continue to fear the loss of open space for sport or other facilities in the town, but this is progress, and what the majority of Bournemouth want to see so as to improve the town and bring it back to what it once was. A place enjoyed by many.
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Regardless of what people might think, such locations as Kings Park still has 40+ hectares of open space not taken up by developers or other projects.
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This column should be directed only to who becomes the leader of the party, and what that leader should do, in talking to the people of Bournemouth, and indeed his or her council.
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Mr. Beesley needs to be removed from this post with immediate effect as he will only continue on in the Charon mode. Cllr Nicola Greene should be reinstated into Cabinet as soon as feasible, if not sooner.
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Sadly, Mr. Charon will remain a Cllr, but in time to come, I am sure those of Redhill and Northbourne will see the light and change this.
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He wanted to stay on until 21/2....once again it shows how dillusional this man is.....psychotic!! Oh and Charon.....shut the door on your way out and don't forget to hand your keys in, you won't be needing them again. Beesley, I wouldnt bother getting the seat too warm, you're next!

Its no good trying to warn the voters,the majority do not listen.The whole of the local tory councillors are so set in their ways and a clique,they have not altered since i was involved,one former councillor,not a local,was chosen because he played golf with the chairmans husband,another was chosen by a selection committee,chaired by his wife,a candidate chaired his own selection group,and never returned the money he borrowed to fight the seat.There are many other stories.Perhaps this goes on with the other parties,i know it did in Poole.The public are treated as mugs.

Now, if it wasn't automatic that the leader of the majority party became Council Leader.............

The only person I have ever met who I think would do a fabulous job at running this town is......Anne Filer.

Strong - yes. Professional - yes. Well respected - yes. Knows whats shes doing - yes.

Beesley & Brown do need to go as well for sure. Just give them the rope I say!

We have some really talented people in this wonderful town of ours and we need to see them helping to run the town. Remember b'OUR'nemouth. Get involved and have your say.

Good to see Capt Ahab returning from the seas (we missed you)

privateyebmouth wrote:
Before everyone gets too excited, i hear it on good authority that Cllr Peter Charon is to resign from his seat as councillor for Redhill & Northbourne and the tories are hellbent on selecting non other that porngate ex leader Cllr Stephen Macloughlin to stand in his place!!!! Beesley is likely to be put in as an interim leader to give Macloughlin a chance to prepare for his 2012 tory leadership contest. His bid is likely to be backed by Cllr Bob Chapman, Cllr Malcolm Davies, Cllr David Smith, Cllr Nick King, Cllr Nicola Greene, Cllr Robert Lawton and the majority of the other tories will be bullied into supporting him. Before we all wholeheartedly back Cllr Macloughlin as our leader for the town. let us just remind ourselves of the appalling leadership that dominated bournemouth between 2007-2010.

He was a better leader than Charon and he learnt his lesson.

The man has suffered enough he deserves a second chance.

Schooners wrote:
The only person I have ever met who I think would do a fabulous job at running this town is......Anne Filer.

Strong - yes. Professional - yes. Well respected - yes. Knows whats shes doing - yes.

Beesley & Brown do need to go as well for sure. Just give them the rope I say!

We have some really talented people in this wonderful town of ours and we need to see them helping to run the town. Remember b'OUR'nemouth. Get involved and have your say.

Good to see Capt Ahab returning from the seas (we missed you)

Its not something she would be interested in.

Cllr Filer is a nice lady but being a Cllr well its just a hobby to her I think & not something to take too seriously...

Schooners wrote:
The only person I have ever met who I think would do a fabulous job at running this town is......Anne Filer.

Strong - yes. Professional - yes. Well respected - yes. Knows whats shes doing - yes.

Beesley & Brown do need to go as well for sure. Just give them the rope I say!

We have some really talented people in this wonderful town of ours and we need to see them helping to run the town. Remember b'OUR'nemouth. Get involved and have your say.

Good to see Capt Ahab returning from the seas (we missed you)

I just spat a mouthful of wine over my internet device as I uttered a spontaneous "what!?" of incredulity over this particular remark.
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Cllr Anne Filer for Leader?
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Gosh
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There really are some mind-boggling ideas coming out of the heads of the brainwashed and misguided residents of this town...

*Fiona* wrote:

privateyebmouth wrote:
Before everyone gets too excited, i hear it on good authority that Cllr Peter Charon is to resign from his seat as councillor for Redhill & Northbourne and the tories are hellbent on selecting non other that porngate ex leader Cllr Stephen Macloughlin to stand in his place!!!! Beesley is likely to be put in as an interim leader to give Macloughlin a chance to prepare for his 2012 tory leadership contest. His bid is likely to be backed by Cllr Bob Chapman, Cllr Malcolm Davies, Cllr David Smith, Cllr Nick King, Cllr Nicola Greene, Cllr Robert Lawton and the majority of the other tories will be bullied into supporting him. Before we all wholeheartedly back Cllr Macloughlin as our leader for the town. let us just remind ourselves of the appalling leadership that dominated bournemouth between 2007-2010.

He was a better leader than Charon and he learnt his lesson.

The man has suffered enough he deserves a second chance.

What a unbelievable comment how on earth do we know he has learnt his lesson whatever that maybe, and he has suffered enough!!!!! really

*Fiona* wrote:

privateyebmouth wrote:
Before everyone gets too excited, i hear it on good authority that Cllr Peter Charon is to resign from his seat as councillor for Redhill & Northbourne and the tories are hellbent on selecting non other that porngate ex leader Cllr Stephen Macloughlin to stand in his place!!!! Beesley is likely to be put in as an interim leader to give Macloughlin a chance to prepare for his 2012 tory leadership contest. His bid is likely to be backed by Cllr Bob Chapman, Cllr Malcolm Davies, Cllr David Smith, Cllr Nick King, Cllr Nicola Greene, Cllr Robert Lawton and the majority of the other tories will be bullied into supporting him. Before we all wholeheartedly back Cllr Macloughlin as our leader for the town. let us just remind ourselves of the appalling leadership that dominated bournemouth between 2007-2010.

He was a better leader than Charon and he learnt his lesson.

The man has suffered enough he deserves a second chance.

yes but not as leader, he should probably stand as a councillor elsewhere and take the long road. Any short cut will be seen by the public as a total disregard for their views.

Anne Filer is sullied by her support of Charon till the bitter end as well. Lovely lady really good mayor, not a leader.

Charon going raises some questions.
Just as a starter: what about the deputy mayor who resigned to be a part of Charon's cabinet? Will he STILL be part of the cabinet? Does that cabinet get disolved in order that Beesley creates a new one?
Does the ex-deputy mayor now have a red face for jumping ship a few days too soon?

Bournemouth Council needs cutting down to size when compared with unitary authoriies such as Sounthampton and Portsmouth.

Given all of Mr.Cameron's talk of localism there ought to be a facility for the present Council to be dissolved and for new elections to be held with 36 wards and one Councillor for each ward.

And lets hope he resigns as a ward councillor,so Bournemouth,will see the back of him.

It shows you what faith and respect he had,when they were going to raise a second motion.

It's all over,Mr Charon and what you have to remember it the person sat next to you in chamber,voted you out.

Totally agree,Beesley,next but whisper has it he is interested in the top job.

I would like to see someone with enthusiasm,fresh faced and a sense of caring for people of Bournemouth.

denmarmat wrote:

*Fiona* wrote:

privateyebmouth wrote:
Before everyone gets too excited, i hear it on good authority that Cllr Peter Charon is to resign from his seat as councillor for Redhill & Northbourne and the tories are hellbent on selecting non other that porngate ex leader Cllr Stephen Macloughlin to stand in his place!!!! Beesley is likely to be put in as an interim leader to give Macloughlin a chance to prepare for his 2012 tory leadership contest. His bid is likely to be backed by Cllr Bob Chapman, Cllr Malcolm Davies, Cllr David Smith, Cllr Nick King, Cllr Nicola Greene, Cllr Robert Lawton and the majority of the other tories will be bullied into supporting him. Before we all wholeheartedly back Cllr Macloughlin as our leader for the town. let us just remind ourselves of the appalling leadership that dominated bournemouth between 2007-2010.

He was a better leader than Charon and he learnt his lesson.

The man has suffered enough he deserves a second chance.

What a unbelievable comment how on earth do we know he has learnt his lesson whatever that maybe, and he has suffered enough!!!!! really

Yes he has suffered enough really.

He will be voted back in if he stands at Redhill ...

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This text font is much easier on the eye also the Daily Echo paper has improved since the new editor has taken over.

*Fiona* wrote:

denmarmat wrote:

*Fiona* wrote:

privateyebmouth wrote:
Before everyone gets too excited, i hear it on good authority that Cllr Peter Charon is to resign from his seat as councillor for Redhill & Northbourne and the tories are hellbent on selecting non other that porngate ex leader Cllr Stephen Macloughlin to stand in his place!!!! Beesley is likely to be put in as an interim leader to give Macloughlin a chance to prepare for his 2012 tory leadership contest. His bid is likely to be backed by Cllr Bob Chapman, Cllr Malcolm Davies, Cllr David Smith, Cllr Nick King, Cllr Nicola Greene, Cllr Robert Lawton and the majority of the other tories will be bullied into supporting him. Before we all wholeheartedly back Cllr Macloughlin as our leader for the town. let us just remind ourselves of the appalling leadership that dominated bournemouth between 2007-2010.

He was a better leader than Charon and he learnt his lesson.

The man has suffered enough he deserves a second chance.

What a unbelievable comment how on earth do we know he has learnt his lesson whatever that maybe, and he has suffered enough!!!!! really

Yes he has suffered enough really.

He will be voted back in if he stands at Redhill ...

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This text font is much easier on the eye also the Daily Echo paper has improved since the new editor has taken over.

"He will be voted back in if he stands at Redhill" that speaks volumes of the voters

Has he been spanked fiona?
He's not a council leader he's a very naughty boy.

Whether he's learnt his lesson or not if MacLoughlin does return to council, either as a back bencher or as leader, his past will simply act as a distraction.
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I think we've had enough distractions, time the council started to deal with the real challenges that face Bournemouth instead of dealing with having to put so much effort keeping wayward councillors in line.

oversixty wrote:
Suggest we all put on street parties to celebrate this news!

This is not the time to celebrate when there is still a strong chance for corrupt councillors to spend our money.

Phixer wrote:

oversixty wrote:
Suggest we all put on street parties to celebrate this news!

This is not the time to celebrate when there is still a strong chance for corrupt councillors to spend our money.

Good point,

and if Macloughlin does become a councillor again: Will the last to leave Bournemouth please turn off the lights? springs to mind.

Think it's time we withdrew the oxygen of publicity and encourage an end to this embarressing and redundant soap opera. Bournemouth is now so lack lustre and depressing. Please please now that we have got rid of that goon Charon let them get on with regenerating our town and community and stop this pathetic navel gazing. Get on with the job!!!

TheDistrict wrote:
This is probably the best action that Mr. Charon has taken in his political career. What the Conservative Party need to do now is to ensure that a leader is elected who favours the people of Bournemouth, and not what that person wants or believes to be for the good of the town.
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Already we have those who continue to fear the loss of open space for sport or other facilities in the town, but this is progress, and what the majority of Bournemouth want to see so as to improve the town and bring it back to what it once was. A place enjoyed by many.
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Regardless of what people might think, such locations as Kings Park still has 40+ hectares of open space not taken up by developers or other projects.
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This column should be directed only to who becomes the leader of the party, and what that leader should do, in talking to the people of Bournemouth, and indeed his or her council.
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Mr. Beesley needs to be removed from this post with immediate effect as he will only continue on in the Charon mode. Cllr Nicola Greene should be reinstated into Cabinet as soon as feasible, if not sooner.
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Sadly, Mr. Charon will remain a Cllr, but in time to come, I am sure those of Redhill and Northbourne will see the light and change this.
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And there, in the printed word, is why this cosmetic makeover will bring no change whatsoever. Whilst trying to act as an apologist for the discredited council even The District admits that parts of Kings Park have been handed to developers. That he is able to tell us that specifically there are 40 hectacres left suggests he is a little closer to Bourne Avenue than he would have us believe.

Likewise his view that such matters should not be aired, when discussing the very person who fronted up such questionable actions (Kings Park land grab), rather confirms that proximity and also echos the same dictorial stance oabout what can and cannot be said about Bournemouth Council.

Yes, I'm sure the good folk of Bournemouth want to "bring it back to what it once was". And that means not having every bit of the town handed over to developers under nonsensical claims of sporting facilities/regenerat
ion etc.

Over 18 months ago it was obvious that the Ice Rink charade was no more a viable proposition than was an idea of using the Imax for the Olympics 100 mts final. But the developers have the place in their pocket and after a due period of time we shall see what it was really all about.

To suggest this type of skulduggery can be divorced from the appointment of a new leader when those involved in those 'schemes' are the ones doing the appointing.

Party politics never have and never will work at local level, they dont even work at national level !

This Dickensian system needs a major overhaul ?

If you take away the temporary residents and visitors and all those on benefits, how many full tax payers are left ?

I pay all my dues in full ! but I get beaten at every election by sheep !

The voting system needs to change, those who pay and finance the system get a vote the rest suffer the consequences, harsh but true ?

So the Ferryman has gone...
...so what?
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It's not the issue I'm afraid, the only question that matters is who do the Tories replace him with?
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Stephen McClaughlin whose stupidity put them into this position in the first place?
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Anne Filer who writes puff pieces about Uriah Beesely the second Charon's out?
Proving she is as loyal and reliable as a weather vane?
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Uriah himself who ever so humbly lurks in the shadows but never comes out? The perception of this man is that he is as corrupt as any politician in the country. And as has been said before in politics, perception is reality.
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So who else?
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Beverly Dunlop who spends more time slagging off Bournemouth and it's institutions on Facebook than backing Bournemouth? I wonder if her involvement in a ballroom dancing business had anythign to do with the dance spaces at the Pavilion? No financial conflict of interest at all.
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Nicola Greene whose mindless pursuit of glory for her husband in 2007 would immediately put her in conflict with one of our local MP's?
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The old guard who plundered Bournemouth before, killed off the Winter Gardens, voted in the Ferryman and then realised he wasn't one of us?
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Or Derek Borthwick the politician who denies he is one. The one who spat on his electorate and took a Vice Chairmanship of a committe for 30 pieces of silver?
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If the Tories, the party of traditional values had any decency, ethics, or honesty they'd look in the mirror and stand down en masse.
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As it is, we'll either get a thief, ****-addict. weather vane or moral vaccuum. The more things change the more they stay the same.
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Le Roi est mort; vive le Roi/Reine...

Fantastic insight into the issue and spot on you get my vote

privateyebmouth wrote:
Before everyone gets too excited, i hear it on good authority that Cllr Peter Charon is to resign from his seat as councillor for Redhill & Northbourne and the tories are hellbent on selecting non other that porngate ex leader Cllr Stephen Macloughlin to stand in his place!!!! Beesley is likely to be put in as an interim leader to give Macloughlin a chance to prepare for his 2012 tory leadership contest. His bid is likely to be backed by Cllr Bob Chapman, Cllr Malcolm Davies, Cllr David Smith, Cllr Nick King, Cllr Nicola Greene, Cllr Robert Lawton and the majority of the other tories will be bullied into supporting him. Before we all wholeheartedly back Cllr Macloughlin as our leader for the town. let us just remind ourselves of the appalling leadership that dominated bournemouth between 2007-2010.

what a pit of low lives, kick the lot of the scheming Tories out.

privateyebmouth wrote:

BmthNewshound wrote:

privateyebmouth wrote:
Before everyone gets too excited, i hear it on good authority that Cllr Peter Charon is to resign from his seat as councillor for Redhill & Northbourne and the tories are hellbent on selecting non other that porngate ex leader Cllr Stephen Macloughlin to stand in his place!!!! Beesley is likely to be put in as an interim leader to give Macloughlin a chance to prepare for his 2012 tory leadership contest. His bid is likely to be backed by Cllr Bob Chapman, Cllr Malcolm Davies, Cllr David Smith, Cllr Nick King, Cllr Nicola Greene, Cllr Robert Lawton and the majority of the other tories will be bullied into supporting him. Before we all wholeheartedly back Cllr Macloughlin as our leader for the town. let us just remind ourselves of the appalling leadership that dominated bournemouth between 2007-2010.

In Mays elections the voters in Queens Park rejected MacLoughlin so if this story is true they will have to convince the people of Redhill & Northbourne to vote for him.
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Such a tactic would be playing into the hands of opposition groups. It might be worth opposition groups putting their differences to one side and all back a single candidate to stand against the Tories if they do select MacLoughlin.

I agree with you BmthNewshound, but when have the tories on Bournemouth Council ever considered the public??? Especially when Macloughlin was in charge. Macloughlin, protegee of Bob Chapman is going to get lots of support from the inner circle that controls bournemouth council. I don't know how charon ever managed to make it as leader as he was never part of the circle. it was a fluke.

By the way I am not convinced with all this support for nicola greene. Don't forget she spend most of 2007 trying to secure her husband Mike the candidacy for Bournemouth West parliamentary seat which went to Conor Burns. It was her that then got him elected to bournemouth council. Mike is a very egotistical ex councillor for hampstead in london (despite living in Bournemouth). However, he is not always the slickest of people and here is him getting embarassed on live national radio:

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=P3cSdK81P

t8

HILLARIOUS SO FUNNY

If macloughlin doesn't get the leadership i guess we could have this bloke.

I couldnt find that link regarding Mike Greene.

tbh Ive heard only positive things from others about him but have to admit I was concerned that he was a supporter of Peter Charons, he was quoted in this paper as saying Charon was not a bully & when I read that I questioned his judgement and also his motives.

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"Nicola Greene whose mindless pursuit of glory for her husband in 2007 would immediately put her in conflict with one of our local MP's?"

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I dont think she behaved like that because she isnt an egotist.

You mention an MP...why would that put her in "conflict" with the newly elected MP and also why should she be at all concerned what he thinks.

He isnt a good MP.

He doesnt reply to constituents emails ,is self serving and a glory seeker (picking and choosing what he gets involved in based on his own agenda) embarassing himself by so obviously vying for attention from the Westminster movers and shakers.

Unfortunately he's just a narcissist would prob sell his own granny to get ahead.

I for one dont respect him-the Greenes are better people imo.

Schooners wrote:
The only person I have ever met who I think would do a fabulous job at running this town is......Anne Filer.

Strong - yes. Professional - yes. Well respected - yes. Knows whats shes doing - yes.

Beesley & Brown do need to go as well for sure. Just give them the rope I say!

We have some really talented people in this wonderful town of ours and we need to see them helping to run the town. Remember b'OUR'nemouth. Get involved and have your say.

Good to see Capt Ahab returning from the seas (we missed you)

I disagree with your assesment of Ms Filer. Besides, she has already thrown her weight behind Mr Beelsey getting the job. No doubt there is some behind closed doors meetings going on, so i wouldn't be surprised if Mr Beesley got the job, Ms Filer will be the new deputy. As I have quite often said, you can't trust ANY politician. Their very nature means they will lie and cheat to keep themselves on the gravy train. So just as Schooners trusts Ms Filer, I distrust her.
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I totally agree that Mr Beesley should go. But it won't happen. He has more supporters then you would think. Mostly to do with the fact that he agreed to stab Mr Charon in the back, in return for not being stabbed himself.If the Beesley supporters had thrown their weight behind Mr Charon, the dictator would still be in power. The size of the hammering Mr Charon got, just goes to show that Mr Beesley wanted him out too.
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I too would like to see Ms Greene returned to her old post. From all accounts, and not from just within the Council, she did an excellent job. As she was only sacked because she didn't get on with the dictator, not because of her ability, then I see no reason she shouldn't be back doing the job on Monday. That butt kissing deputy mayor (does anybody actually remember his name?) was only appointed to be a yes man to Mr Charon. Well that role is not needed now, so get rid of him.
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Whilst I don't expect Councillors who c0ck up to fall on their swords (although the idea is great) I do expect them to stand up, say "I got it wrong, I'm sorry" If they would only do that, then I would respect them more. I would even forgive them for the c0ckups. But they haven't the courage to do it. They point fingers and blame everybody else for their mistakes. And FIY to all Councillors. Keeping your mouth shut when you know something is wrong, makes you just as guilty. So hopefully from now on our Councillors will stand up and be counted more often. May be they can actually do the job they collect so much money for doing. You represent US!!! not your party, or your leader, or yourselves come to that. So lets see some backbone from now on. Stand up and be accountable for your actions. If you believe what you are doing is right, then convince us. We will back you if you are honest, even if we disagree with you.
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Last but not least, welcome back Capt Ahab. Hope you enjoyed your cruise.

Shuttlex where do you think a Councillor with backbone that will represent the voting public and not think of themselves will actually come from certainly not from the people who stood last year, having followed some of their rants in the comments disguised by an alias for the past 8 months there has not been one thats showed real regard to what their job entails.The letters that are published in the Echo contain hidden agendas they dont hide it.Bournemouth as a town has declined in most aspects mainly due to our acceptance of second class representation and now we find whatever political party were to get in we would be no better off.A complete change is needed.

Shuttlex where do you think a Councillor with backbone that will represent the voting public and not think of themselves will actually come from certainly not from the people who stood last year, having followed some of their rants in the comments disguised by an alias for the past 8 months there has not been one thats showed real regard to what their job entails.The letters that are published in the Echo contain hidden agendas they dont hide it.Bournemouth as a town has declined in most aspects mainly due to our acceptance of second class representation and now we find whatever political party were to get in we would be no better off.A complete change is needed.

Thanks for that input but I remember you waxing loquacious about what a breath of fresh air the Ferryman would be.
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Before you decided he was not a nice man and a bully.
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On that track record I'm going to rely on your opinion why?

It is now time to move on. Whilst I appreciate that there are concerns surrounding Mr Beasley, to condemn the new leader before he has got his feet under the table is ridiculous. Mr Beasley has to be allowed to be his own man.

The positive removal of Charon is to be welcomed let's at least give the new man a chance! Let's face it Beasley has saved the Borough £32 million with his financial prudence.

Son of Bad Rabbit wrote:
So the Ferryman has gone...
...so what?
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It's not the issue I'm afraid, the only question that matters is who do the Tories replace him with?
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Stephen McClaughlin whose stupidity put them into this position in the first place?
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Anne Filer who writes puff pieces about Uriah Beesely the second Charon's out?
Proving she is as loyal and reliable as a weather vane?
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Uriah himself who ever so humbly lurks in the shadows but never comes out? The perception of this man is that he is as corrupt as any politician in the country. And as has been said before in politics, perception is reality.
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So who else?
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Beverly Dunlop who spends more time slagging off Bournemouth and it's institutions on Facebook than backing Bournemouth? I wonder if her involvement in a ballroom dancing business had anythign to do with the dance spaces at the Pavilion? No financial conflict of interest at all.
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Nicola Greene whose mindless pursuit of glory for her husband in 2007 would immediately put her in conflict with one of our local MP's?
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The old guard who plundered Bournemouth before, killed off the Winter Gardens, voted in the Ferryman and then realised he wasn't one of us?
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Or Derek Borthwick the politician who denies he is one. The one who spat on his electorate and took a Vice Chairmanship of a committe for 30 pieces of silver?
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If the Tories, the party of traditional values had any decency, ethics, or honesty they'd look in the mirror and stand down en masse.
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As it is, we'll either get a thief, ****-addict. weather vane or moral vaccuum. The more things change the more they stay the same.
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Le Roi est mort; vive le Roi/Reine...

Excellent analysis! you've hit the nail on the head.

Bournemouth council is going down and the tories have started to crumble. they've shown themselves for who they are and it's only going to get worse from now. Lets sit back and watch them go into meltdown.

Son of Bad Rabbit wrote:
Thanks for that input but I remember you waxing loquacious about what a breath of fresh air the Ferryman would be.
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Before you decided he was not a nice man and a bully.
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On that track record I'm going to rely on your opinion why?

Apart from a bad memory you have i agree why would you rely on my opinion unless you have hidden agendas?

If you trust Beesley,then nothing is changed,we will still have a very week council,he is no better than Charon.I am amazed that a lot of the moaners on here could accept him.He is a first class example of the domination of the local tories by the ones at the top.

Charon, is the used car man of local politics. Friendly, polite, sharply dressed, full of smiles, buys drinks, sells it all with a smile of a shark. Its rather easy to be taken in by him, though after your not quite sure how he managed it.

Beesley was fully aware of his behaviour, used it as a distraction from his babies (town centre master vision and his hand on the purse). A vote for Beesley is maintaining the satus quo. He will be utterly unelectable at the next election and the tories will have to go through the same nonsense again.

Its imperative that they get their next leader correct, if they dont they will find winning an up hill task. National politics and cuts will start to bite, the lib dems will eventually regroup and become electable again. The problem has been stated many times, there is no outstanding candidate and any one who can and would stand has some form of taint on them. Either by association, a real complaint or reading some of the things here, something made up about them.

Bob49 wrote:

TheDistrict wrote:
This is probably the best action that Mr. Charon has taken in his political career. What the Conservative Party need to do now is to ensure that a leader is elected who favours the people of Bournemouth, and not what that person wants or believes to be for the good of the town.
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Already we have those who continue to fear the loss of open space for sport or other facilities in the town, but this is progress, and what the majority of Bournemouth want to see so as to improve the town and bring it back to what it once was. A place enjoyed by many.
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Regardless of what people might think, such locations as Kings Park still has 40+ hectares of open space not taken up by developers or other projects.
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This column should be directed only to who becomes the leader of the party, and what that leader should do, in talking to the people of Bournemouth, and indeed his or her council.
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Mr. Beesley needs to be removed from this post with immediate effect as he will only continue on in the Charon mode. Cllr Nicola Greene should be reinstated into Cabinet as soon as feasible, if not sooner.
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Sadly, Mr. Charon will remain a Cllr, but in time to come, I am sure those of Redhill and Northbourne will see the light and change this.
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And there, in the printed word, is why this cosmetic makeover will bring no change whatsoever. Whilst trying to act as an apologist for the discredited council even The District admits that parts of Kings Park have been handed to developers. That he is able to tell us that specifically there are 40 hectacres left suggests he is a little closer to Bourne Avenue than he would have us believe.

Likewise his view that such matters should not be aired, when discussing the very person who fronted up such questionable actions (Kings Park land grab), rather confirms that proximity and also echos the same dictorial stance oabout what can and cannot be said about Bournemouth Council.

Yes, I'm sure the good folk of Bournemouth want to "bring it back to what it once was". And that means not having every bit of the town handed over to developers under nonsensical claims of sporting facilities/regenerat

ion etc.

Over 18 months ago it was obvious that the Ice Rink charade was no more a viable proposition than was an idea of using the Imax for the Olympics 100 mts final. But the developers have the place in their pocket and after a due period of time we shall see what it was really all about.

To suggest this type of skulduggery can be divorced from the appointment of a new leader when those involved in those 'schemes' are the ones doing the appointing.

Just proves Bob49 that you, like so many others do not know everything. I could not be further away from Bourne Avenue as you but than yourself.
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Yes, I agree that developers have taken small parts of KP, and why not. Why should everything be left open for the minimal use of those who are too scared to see changes in the town for the best.
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If developers were given the rights to build huge blocks of flats, or houses on KP, then I would stand against that, but we are only talking of sports facilities, whether it is a Indoor Bowling Green, Atheletic Stadium, BMX track, Football pitches, Football Ground, Hockey and Cricket pitches. Do you see where I am coming from Bob49, Kings Park is known as the centre of sport in Bournemouth, and it is only sport that is being built or set up in the park, including the Ice Rink which is still on the books.
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The vast majority of people are more involved with sport and feel that such a space should be used as such. And as I said through research only, there is in excess of 40 hectares left as open space.
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Get use to it.
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Back to the subject, I hope who ever takes over as the Leader of the Council, continues with such projects, which is what the people of Bournemouth, bar a small few want, and not take all on his own word, but use the word of the people and his or her council.

Denmarmat,
A hidden agenda.
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Ok I'll bite; second time you've accused me of having one. Obviously you know something about me that I don't.

Had Macloughlin admitted what he did in the first place and apologised; told his group; had it dealt with as the procedures stated - it would have been a fairly minor incident. Instead it amounted to a cover up with a barrister being brought in etc. and all the accompanying negative publicity.
Charon appeared (prior to becoming Leader) to be an honest, intelligent man with integrity. I watched him deal with an enquiry about the Hengistbury Head Centre with rigorous adherence to procedures.....it would appear I was completely wrong by assuming he would make a good Leader.
Beesley has - I am reliably informed - always held the purse strings and made the decisions, but prefers to have a 'front man' as he finds communicating with people difficult and awkward. We have been told so many times from people in the Council that he is the real power behind the throne and are now being told he will back anyone who will do as they are told – so Anne Filer will fit the bill very well there! With all that, he is apparently a workaholic, highly intelligent and has made himself appear to be indispensable - but it’s his way or the highway.
As our Councillors lack integrity by allow themselves to be bullied etc., it doesn't matter who is the Leader is .....a card board cut-out can do the job!
If the majority of Councillors had integrity, they would ensure the system is changed so that the Leader, or Deputy Leader can never chose who is or is not on a panel or in a Cabinet position. The entire Council should vote on these positions by secret ballot - ask yourself, "What have Councillors got to loose if the vote for a Cabinet position and a position on any Board/Panel was by Full Council and secret ballot?"

Bmthbeach wrote:
It is now time to move on. Whilst I appreciate that there are concerns surrounding Mr Beasley, to condemn the new leader before he has got his feet under the table is ridiculous. Mr Beasley has to be allowed to be his own man.

The positive removal of Charon is to be welcomed let's at least give the new man a chance! Let's face it Beasley has saved the Borough £32 million with his financial prudence.

He hasn't. Council tax has been frozen nationally and he is trying desperately to take credit for something he had nothing to do with. Sums him up pretty well, that and getting planning approved for someone without declaring they were ex business partners and he was godfather to his son. How he got off that just shows what a rotten Council Bournemouth has.

"Why should everything be left open for the minimal use of those who are too scared to see changes in the town for the best "

The clue is in the words - open space. As an apologist for this land grab feel free to continue to peddle the myth that this space is not used.

To the rest us there are football pitches there and various groups use the space regularly, as do various festivals in the summer.

By your absurd reasoning we might just as well hand over the cemeteries, which those with the same mindset did in Westminster. I'm not too sure what cover story Mrs Porter used - but the nonsense about Ice Rinks, surf machines, archery courts would require a high degree of absurdity to be matched.

It is cynical land grab as the quiet dropping of the Ice Rink scam has now shown. Why someone should feel the need to try to spout the council's spin on this only he knows and we can guess at. Perhaps he can continue the 'good work' and update us on the sporting and leisure benefits of the surf reef, the broken pier, the empty surf pods, the unused veladrom, the empty Imax.

Of course none of them included any housing. None of them had developers filling their boots by having local tax payers land handed over to them, did they ? And before you ask about the Imax and Bath Hill car park I would say watch this space.

Wow, Most unpopular person in Bournemouth!!

Is this guy still part of Bournemouth Development Partnership or whatever the foul little speculators company is called? Set up to profit them, paid for by us.

Despite the negative views held by some in this column I would suggest the choice of Nicola Greene for leader, with, I suggest, the admirable Bob Chapman as the deputy, for his services to freeing Bournemouth of the previous dictator.
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Cllr Beasley needs to step down as deputy too, as he too is tainted by the past year or so of tory shenanigans. It needs a breath of fresh air at the top in the local party, especially not a developer or freemason, to convince the people of Bournemouth that things are really going to change, and not another 'figurehead' with a hidden agenda is being appointed.
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It's good to see Capt Ahab back on here too. Maybe with a new crew at BBC both of us may now have plenty of positive things to say about 'the Council' in the months to come! Here's hoping!!!”

I am saddened to read some of rhetoric published here with absolutely no appreciation of the wy in which the leadership had set in hand the modernisation and slimming down of the paid admisnistrators in the Town Hall.
Bournemouth is crying out for the old diapidated buildings to be pulled down and comprehensive modern development to take place to put our Town back in the forefornt of the best places to live.
I personally regret having to read what many of you have written - same on you.
This is a democracy and you have the right to your say but what about a bit more of the suggestions, ideas and way forward.
To start these allegations of corruption and acting in personal interest when you are totally unaware of the work these people are putting in to try and make this a better and cheaper town is in itself stupid and damaging, more to the complainants than the targets.
I have past experience of doing the job and it is not easy - it would be great to get some gratitude from the puiblic who do understand what an uphill task anyone has trying to change the bureaucratic Local Govt Management system - these guys are getting some changes. They need your support.
Thank you Peter for all your efforts, sorry your approach was just a bit too abrasive but at least you tried and did get somehwhere.
John - I hope that you get better support and continue the job that you were always part of.
I personally think the cabinet structure does not suit Bournemouth and removes the democratic tasks from the ordinary councillor, it mnakes it very hard for the press and public to follow and influence decision making.
Perhaps a better way forward would be to revert to main committees and chairmen and leader in the 'cabinet' but with decisons debated across committees involving everyone so that it is more transparent.
Should I come back or am I too old???

I am saddened to read some of rhetoric published here with absolutely no appreciation of the wy in which the leadership had set in hand the modernisation and slimming down of the paid admisnistrators in the Town Hall.
Bournemouth is crying out for the old diapidated buildings to be pulled down and comprehensive modern development to take place to put our Town back in the forefornt of the best places to live.
I personally regret having to read what many of you have written - same on you.
This is a democracy and you have the right to your say but what about a bit more of the suggestions, ideas and way forward.
To start these allegations of corruption and acting in personal interest when you are totally unaware of the work these people are putting in to try and make this a better and cheaper town is in itself stupid and damaging, more to the complainants than the targets.
I have past experience of doing the job and it is not easy - it would be great to get some gratitude from the puiblic who do understand what an uphill task anyone has trying to change the bureaucratic Local Govt Management system - these guys are getting some changes. They need your support.
Thank you Peter for all your efforts, sorry your approach was just a bit too abrasive but at least you tried and did get somehwhere.
John - I hope that you get better support and continue the job that you were always part of.
I personally think the cabinet structure does not suit Bournemouth and removes the democratic tasks from the ordinary councillor, it mnakes it very hard for the press and public to follow and influence decision making.
Perhaps a better way forward would be to revert to main committees and chairmen and leader in the 'cabinet' but with decisons debated across committees involving everyone so that it is more transparent.
Should I come back or am I too old???

I am saddened to read some of rhetoric published here with absolutely no appreciation of the wy in which the leadership had set in hand the modernisation and slimming down of the paid admisnistrators in the Town Hall.
Bournemouth is crying out for the old diapidated buildings to be pulled down and comprehensive modern development to take place to put our Town back in the forefornt of the best places to live.
I personally regret having to read what many of you have written - same on you.
This is a democracy and you have the right to your say but what about a bit more of the suggestions, ideas and way forward.
To start these allegations of corruption and acting in personal interest when you are totally unaware of the work these people are putting in to try and make this a better and cheaper town is in itself stupid and damaging, more to the complainants than the targets.
I have past experience of doing the job and it is not easy - it would be great to get some gratitude from the puiblic who do understand what an uphill task anyone has trying to change the bureaucratic Local Govt Management system - these guys are getting some changes. They need your support.
Thank you Peter for all your efforts, sorry your approach was just a bit too abrasive but at least you tried and did get somehwhere.
John - I hope that you get better support and continue the job that you were always part of.
I personally think the cabinet structure does not suit Bournemouth and removes the democratic tasks from the ordinary councillor, it mnakes it very hard for the press and public to follow and influence decision making.
Perhaps a better way forward would be to revert to main committees and chairmen and leader in the 'cabinet' but with decisons debated across committees involving everyone so that it is more transparent.
Should I come back or am I too old???

I am saddened to read some of rhetoric published here with absolutely no appreciation of the wy in which the leadership had set in hand the modernisation and slimming down of the paid admisnistrators in the Town Hall.
Bournemouth is crying out for the old diapidated buildings to be pulled down and comprehensive modern development to take place to put our Town back in the forefornt of the best places to live.
I personally regret having to read what many of you have written - same on you.
This is a democracy and you have the right to your say but what about a bit more of the suggestions, ideas and way forward.
To start these allegations of corruption and acting in personal interest when you are totally unaware of the work these people are putting in to try and make this a better and cheaper town is in itself stupid and damaging, more to the complainants than the targets.
I have past experience of doing the job and it is not easy - it would be great to get some gratitude from the puiblic who do understand what an uphill task anyone has trying to change the bureaucratic Local Govt Management system - these guys are getting some changes. They need your support.
Thank you Peter for all your efforts, sorry your approach was just a bit too abrasive but at least you tried and did get somehwhere.
John - I hope that you get better support and continue the job that you were always part of.
I personally think the cabinet structure does not suit Bournemouth and removes the democratic tasks from the ordinary councillor, it mnakes it very hard for the press and public to follow and influence decision making.
Perhaps a better way forward would be to revert to main committees and chairmen and leader in the 'cabinet' but with decisons debated across committees involving everyone so that it is more transparent.
Should I come back or am I too old???

I am saddened to read some of rhetoric published here with absolutely no appreciation of the wy in which the leadership had set in hand the modernisation and slimming down of the paid admisnistrators in the Town Hall.
Bournemouth is crying out for the old diapidated buildings to be pulled down and comprehensive modern development to take place to put our Town back in the forefornt of the best places to live.
I personally regret having to read what many of you have written - same on you.
This is a democracy and you have the right to your say but what about a bit more of the suggestions, ideas and way forward.
To start these allegations of corruption and acting in personal interest when you are totally unaware of the work these people are putting in to try and make this a better and cheaper town is in itself stupid and damaging, more to the complainants than the targets.
I have past experience of doing the job and it is not easy - it would be great to get some gratitude from the puiblic who do understand what an uphill task anyone has trying to change the bureaucratic Local Govt Management system - these guys are getting some changes. They need your support.
Thank you Peter for all your efforts, sorry your approach was just a bit too abrasive but at least you tried and did get somehwhere.
John - I hope that you get better support and continue the job that you were always part of.
I personally think the cabinet structure does not suit Bournemouth and removes the democratic tasks from the ordinary councillor, it mnakes it very hard for the press and public to follow and influence decision making.
Perhaps a better way forward would be to revert to main committees and chairmen and leader in the 'cabinet' but with decisons debated across committees involving everyone so that it is more transparent.
Should I come back or am I too old???

I am saddened to read some of rhetoric published here with absolutely no appreciation of the wy in which the leadership had set in hand the modernisation and slimming down of the paid admisnistrators in the Town Hall.
Bournemouth is crying out for the old diapidated buildings to be pulled down and comprehensive modern development to take place to put our Town back in the forefornt of the best places to live.
I personally regret having to read what many of you have written - same on you.
This is a democracy and you have the right to your say but what about a bit more of the suggestions, ideas and way forward.
To start these allegations of corruption and acting in personal interest when you are totally unaware of the work these people are putting in to try and make this a better and cheaper town is in itself stupid and damaging, more to the complainants than the targets.
I have past experience of doing the job and it is not easy - it would be great to get some gratitude from the puiblic who do understand what an uphill task anyone has trying to change the bureaucratic Local Govt Management system - these guys are getting some changes. They need your support.
Thank you Peter for all your efforts, sorry your approach was just a bit too abrasive but at least you tried and did get somehwhere.
John - I hope that you get better support and continue the job that you were always part of.
I personally think the cabinet structure does not suit Bournemouth and removes the democratic tasks from the ordinary councillor, it mnakes it very hard for the press and public to follow and influence decision making.
Perhaps a better way forward would be to revert to main committees and chairmen and leader in the 'cabinet' but with decisons debated across committees involving everyone so that it is more transparent.
Should I come back or am I too old???

Alderman1 wrote:
I am saddened to read some of rhetoric published here with absolutely no appreciation of the wy in which the leadership had set in hand the modernisation and slimming down of the paid admisnistrators in the Town Hall. Bournemouth is crying out for the old diapidated buildings to be pulled down and comprehensive modern development to take place to put our Town back in the forefornt of the best places to live. I personally regret having to read what many of you have written - same on you. This is a democracy and you have the right to your say but what about a bit more of the suggestions, ideas and way forward. To start these allegations of corruption and acting in personal interest when you are totally unaware of the work these people are putting in to try and make this a better and cheaper town is in itself stupid and damaging, more to the complainants than the targets. I have past experience of doing the job and it is not easy - it would be great to get some gratitude from the puiblic who do understand what an uphill task anyone has trying to change the bureaucratic Local Govt Management system - these guys are getting some changes. They need your support. Thank you Peter for all your efforts, sorry your approach was just a bit too abrasive but at least you tried and did get somehwhere. John - I hope that you get better support and continue the job that you were always part of. I personally think the cabinet structure does not suit Bournemouth and removes the democratic tasks from the ordinary councillor, it mnakes it very hard for the press and public to follow and influence decision making. Perhaps a better way forward would be to revert to main committees and chairmen and leader in the 'cabinet' but with decisons debated across committees involving everyone so that it is more transparent. Should I come back or am I too old???

You are definitely too old! You are probably too much of a gentleman to fit in with the bulk of this shower.

Oh, by the way, you don't have to input your views 6 times for us to get the gist of your bias.

Alderman1 wrote:
I am saddened to read some of rhetoric published here with absolutely no appreciation of the wy in which the leadership had set in hand the modernisation and slimming down of the paid admisnistrators in the Town Hall.
Bournemouth is crying out for the old diapidated buildings to be pulled down and comprehensive modern development to take place to put our Town back in the forefornt of the best places to live.
I personally regret having to read what many of you have written - same on you.
This is a democracy and you have the right to your say but what about a bit more of the suggestions, ideas and way forward.
To start these allegations of corruption and acting in personal interest when you are totally unaware of the work these people are putting in to try and make this a better and cheaper town is in itself stupid and damaging, more to the complainants than the targets.
I have past experience of doing the job and it is not easy - it would be great to get some gratitude from the puiblic who do understand what an uphill task anyone has trying to change the bureaucratic Local Govt Management system - these guys are getting some changes. They need your support.
Thank you Peter for all your efforts, sorry your approach was just a bit too abrasive but at least you tried and did get somehwhere.
John - I hope that you get better support and continue the job that you were always part of.
I personally think the cabinet structure does not suit Bournemouth and removes the democratic tasks from the ordinary councillor, it mnakes it very hard for the press and public to follow and influence decision making.
Perhaps a better way forward would be to revert to main committees and chairmen and leader in the 'cabinet' but with decisons debated across committees involving everyone so that it is more transparent.
Should I come back or am I too old???

Bwahahahahah this is the sort of revinionist, self belief nonsense that the Snake Oil salesman would print himself.

Charon was no mover shaker, he was selling false hope and dreams. Dressing them up in open government, blah blah. he has delivered nothing! Led the party to a massive victory? Does myself or anyone else have to debunk that hokum claim, really?

I invite the lapdog, his son or anyone else to tell us all exactly what Charon has delivered in his 12 months or so? So he got up the noses of the old guard, that in itself does nothing and proved to be a short cut to his exit, so he's managed to win an election which was already won. Claims of behind the scenes are utter nonsense, if Charon had managed to get something done he'd be the first to tell everyone. He's never been shy at coming forward, has he?

Id add there have been many suggestions made on this and other stories on this website.
The IMAX is a case in point, everyone wants rid of it but most sensible commentators have stated that to buy it now for 7.5M turf out the tennants then ask the public what they want to do about it is a complete waste of money. In 6-12 months time the operator would have been begging for the council to take it off their hands. Even then they should have kept the tennants until they decided what to do. I predict in 6-12 months time we will still be discussing the IMAX and all wondering what to do with it

If this is the best local govt can offer as leadership, we best forget about it and run it all through votes on the internet.

Personally, Im rather hopeful. There seems to be a number of councillors who have brains and think a bit, maybe if they did it less on party lines it would help. A cabinet with Green and some of the other 'Charon Mavericks', mixed with some older hands might work and give the town the little bit of oomph we're all looking for.