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Strike row set to disrupt BA passenger travels


THOUSANDS of airline passengers are facing disruption from this weekend if no deal can be reached to head off a strike by British Airways cabin crew.

Gordon Brown yesterday weighed into the row, calling the strike “unjustified” and “deplorable”.

And transport secretary Lord Adonis has claimed the whole future of BA could be at risk from the two waves of industrial action, which will last seven days in total.

BA has withdrawn an offer made to the unions last Friday, claiming it had only been tabled on the understanding that no plans for strikes would continue.

And although the details of negotiations are unclear, the sticking point seems to be a BA plan to withdraw one cabin crew member from all flights from November. The company says it must save £60 million from its cabin crew budget, while the union Unite claims to have made its own “remarkable” offer which would have given BA what it wanted.

David Skillicorn, managing director of Bournemouth-based airline Palmair, said: “The whole industry acknowledges that BA staff enjoy the best terms and conditions in the business and that’s a historic thing. We’ve never been through such turbulent times in the airline industry and it’s clear that BA simply cannot afford to carry on with terms and conditions as they are now.”

He added: “The union is putting themselves on a collision course with BA management and that cannot be in the long-term interests of BA employees as a whole.”

He said his company had been “inundated” with applications for cabin crew posts on its summer programme this year.

Daily Echo readers commenting online have been split over the strike.

BH10et, Bournemouth, said: “Many of the BA Cabin Crew Association do not want to strike, and the rest of BA staff will suffer along with the strikers. BA cabin crew receive more in pay than many if not all of the other flight crews, and with better benefits… The unions and the strikers do not give one iota of care for their passengers, the very people who pay their wages.”

Peggy Babcock, Poole, said: “This continued strike action will bring down the airline, and it serves the cabin crew right if they find themselves without a job. I feel sorry for all the other employees that did not want this action and who as a result of this may also lose their jobs.”

Mediclogan5, Bournemouth, said: “BA cabin crew deserve no sympathy and should stop being greedy and selfish when it comes to holding passengers to ransom to get what they want. Personally I am rooting for BA and suggest they sack the lot of them and employ people who would be more than grateful for a full-time post.”

But Trainsdriver3ss said BA chief exec Willie Walsh – “who has led this company into multi-million losses” – was wrong to “lecture” staff earning a “tiny fraction of his salary”. He said: “It is the company management who are bent on causing this strike, not the union.”

Comments(12)

traindriver3ss says...
7:26pm Mon 15 Mar 10

my god that's actually a reasonably fair representation of what i said.! Cut down massively of course but not to misrepresent it!!! well done echo!
still stand by what i said especially against BH10ET who thinks I'm from Northern Ireland!!!

Peggy Babcock says...
8:05pm Mon 15 Mar 10

traindriver3ss wrote:
my god that's actually a reasonably fair representation of what i said.! Cut down massively of course but not to misrepresent it!!! well done echo! still stand by what i said especially against BH10ET who thinks I'm from Northern Ireland!!!
The passengers are pawns in Unite's game of getting what they want, hence planning strike action on the lead up to Easter to maximise impact. OK, if you want to strike, do so for 1 day when pasengers are not impacted to such a degree.

You aso beak on about WEilie Wash and his salary. Well, how about ooking closer to home at the leaders of Unite?

traindriver3ss says...
8:10pm Mon 15 Mar 10

Peggy Babcock wrote:
traindriver3ss wrote:
my god that's actually a reasonably fair representation of what i said.! Cut down massively of course but not to misrepresent it!!! well done echo! still stand by what i said especially against BH10ET who thinks I'm from Northern Ireland!!!
The passengers are pawns in Unite's game of getting what they want, hence planning strike action on the lead up to Easter to maximise impact. OK, if you want to strike, do so for 1 day when pasengers are not impacted to such a degree.

You aso beak on about WEilie Wash and his salary. Well, how about ooking closer to home at the leaders of Unite?
You clearly don't understand the principle of industrial action!!! you don't strike on the quietest days or the company just ignore it!!!
The leaders of unite are on a fraction of Walsh and more importantly union leaders are elected by its members!!!

Remember this is the company found guilty of price fixing only a couple of years ago. The fine for that ILLEGAL activity was a fraction of the savings of even BA's plans. If senior management hadn't been involved in this criminal activity BA Wouldn't need these cuts. So as usual Senior management asking junior staff to pay the price for their incompetence!!!

contric says...
8:35pm Mon 15 Mar 10

the leaders of unite are on less than mr walsh but on much more than about99% of the members they represent also the political levy goes to the labour party what arrangements are made for people who want to be in the union but the political levy paid to the tory party

nikkip71 says...
9:36pm Mon 15 Mar 10

contric wrote:
the leaders of unite are on less than mr walsh but on much more than about99% of the members they represent also the political levy goes to the labour party what arrangements are made for people who want to be in the union but the political levy paid to the tory party
Withhold the political levy and make a contribution direct to the party themselves maybe!!!!

contric says...
9:54pm Mon 15 Mar 10

nikkip71 if the union represents all its members why should their money be given to the labour party with no hassle yet if union members want to give the money to the tory party they have to make their own arrangements although i have been in the union for 44years i have never been a sheep and followed what i have been told is good for me unless i have agreed with it

traindriver3ss says...
10:22pm Mon 15 Mar 10

Your not that old contric are you?!!!! so don't think you have been in the union for 44 years? The system is partly historical as the trade unions formed the labour party to fight to get a political voice in parliament. As you can see they were very successful as we now have, weekends ( although many still have to work them), an average work day under 9 hours instead of the 15 or so it was before the birth of the labour party, an NHS, The right to refuse to work more than 48 hours a week, a minimum of 11 hours rest between shifts, Paid holidays, maternity, paternity and parental leave, occupational pension schemes, a minimum wage, as well as a framework set out to protect your health and safety at work. NONE of this would have come about through the TORIES. Infact they opposed every single one of the achievements made by trade unions/labour party. However if you still wish to be a part of the union but not support the labour party your union will be happy to welcome you as a brother and not make any contributions to the labour party on your behalf. In theory any union could affiliate to the conservative party indeed some, such as the firebrigade union have withdrawn their support of Labour. I doubt many Trade unions could muster the support to switch this. Perhaps have a word with some of your colleagues and see if they woudl be prepared to put forward a motion to support the conservative party. If you can convince more than 50% of the members you may well get your wish!!

BH10et says...
11:38pm Mon 15 Mar 10

traindriver3ss wrote:
my god that's actually a reasonably fair representation of what i said.! Cut down massively of course but not to misrepresent it!!! well done echo!
still stand by what i said especially against BH10ET who thinks I'm from Northern Ireland!!!
Unionist as in the sense of Union, quite simple to understand really. Plus I referred to the other passenger disruptive union as in the RMT, (traindriver/RMT), simples. You do not really say anything traindriver other than what is said already, but in your own words. Typical Union stance. The BA Cabin Staff are wrong to strike, they not only have a big chance of losing their own jobs, but losing the whole BA business if not careful, all for the sake of one cabin crew who will not doubt be ready to finish anyway. Do look at the scenario properly, and see the long term effect this will have if it goes ahead. Bloody Unions, not worth the mouth or the money.

Peggy Babcock says...
8:08am Tue 16 Mar 10

I was actually a memeber of Unite until yesterday when I cancelled it. Their stance on BA, and the fact that I line the bosses pocket with my £130 membership no longer means I want to be part of this bully boy tactics organisation.

traindriver3ss says...
8:45am Tue 16 Mar 10

BH10et wrote:
traindriver3ss wrote:
my god that's actually a reasonably fair representation of what i said.! Cut down massively of course but not to misrepresent it!!! well done echo!
still stand by what i said especially against BH10ET who thinks I'm from Northern Ireland!!!
Unionist as in the sense of Union, quite simple to understand really. Plus I referred to the other passenger disruptive union as in the RMT, (traindriver/RMT), simples. You do not really say anything traindriver other than what is said already, but in your own words. Typical Union stance. The BA Cabin Staff are wrong to strike, they not only have a big chance of losing their own jobs, but losing the whole BA business if not careful, all for the sake of one cabin crew who will not doubt be ready to finish anyway. Do look at the scenario properly, and see the long term effect this will have if it goes ahead. Bloody Unions, not worth the mouth or the money.
and as I've told you now for the third time RMT is not the traindrivers union so you earlier accusation that i was a member and your eluding to it again here is totally wrong. If you knew anything about "unionism" as you put it you would know that RMT is not and never has been the union for train drivers!!! And you don't say anything new except bloody union's recycled form the likes of Tebbit and thatcher in the 1980's Bloody Tories not worth the Sleaze, Greed or money¬!!!! If it were down to people like you we would still be sending 12 year old up chimneys, in homes of course because there are no industrial chimneys left because of?????

contric says...
8:58am Tue 16 Mar 10

train driver i have my book stamped every year from 1966-1971 by the union while i served my apprenticeship it was then the national union of sheet metal workers coppersmiths heating and domestic engineers and have been in the union since 1966 although for the first five years while serving my apprentioceship we were not allowed to vote or take part in any industrial action 1966-2010=44years

old git 2 says...
11:52am Tue 16 Mar 10

this is a very difficult one - on the one hand, i dont agree with the principals of the proposed strike. BA need to save money and they have come up with ways of doing that.

However, as a team of people within a trade union have the right to strike for what they believe in. What gives the prime minister the right to stick his ore in? BA is not a government owned company any more and therefore the government have no right commenting!
would they comment if the corner shop staff decided to strike? i doubt it as its not such a high profile private company. But the vast majority of BA passengers who will be affected by the strikes are voters!!!!!!!


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