Dorset retailers against Sunday trading reform (From Bournemouth Echo)

Big business being greedy. Small retailers are unable to open as long as the big stores due to staffing costs, therefore they lose out. Its sad when you realise that shopping is the only hobby some people have.

Aren't we missing the point here, its about Boxing day, in my opinion shops should be closed anyway!!! Why then make Boxing day a public holiday in the first place. Its getting rediculous the Christmas period of almost 10days of not being able to get any services due to a Christmas shutdown. I'm also in favour of scrapping new year day as a public holiday, we managed before 1974 without one.

Well, for once I agrre with Emulated. Sheer greed. Even New Years Eve now, shops are open up to 5 30, use to close about 4. Then we have Boxing day, one of the few days the shopping obsessed are forced to spend with their families.
Yes, those things, your family, you know, maybe doing things together other than a trip to Tesco or Costas.
Those of us in retail, are being forced into seven days a week, 365 days a year opening. The public are just being selfish, along with big stores. Why can't they wait to dec 27th to buy shed loads of clothes they don't need or want. Nearly all clothes that never get worn come from the sales.

Our fore-fathers fought for the right to have these type of holidays and now we are throwing away what they stuggled for. What is up with people who want go into into such places , get some air in your lungs and go for a good walk.
They would be the first to moan if asked to work.
This country comes to a standstill for nearly 10 days every Yuletide, plenty of time to mouch around the retail outlets then,
No wonder we are in the cackie.

The Sunday trading laws are way out of date and archaic, the world has changed over the years and works 24 hours a day.
I can remember when i was younger that a paper shop could only open from 9am till 12 noon, this has long since changed along with half day closing.
Why should i be dictated to by a select few when i can shop, this is just like the no smoking rules, another select bunch of complainers, which is putting pubs and restaurants out of buisness.
I work shifts and would like to shop on either a bank holiday or Sunday, whats wrong with that ifits my choice.
The law protects employers from forcing people to work Sundays so thats a non argument.
Why should I be forced to pay sky high prices in convienance stores because supermarkets cannot open.
It should be up to the individual wheather to shop on Sundays and bank holidays and not by dictatorships like the present government or the church.
Visit any big supermarket on a Sunday and you will find that they are pretty full, doesn't that tell you something.
Over recent years trading laws have been relaxed, alcohol laws to name one so lets get into the 21st centuary and let people think for themselves.
If people are against shopping on Sundays and bank holidays then dont go there but dont impose your will on others.
This country has become a nation of do gooders that refuse to move with the times and force their minority wishes on the rest of us.
I know a few who work for Tesco and Sainsburys and none are forced to work Sundays and bank holidays but most do because of the extra money, again that is their choice.
The church wingers are always fighting against Sunday trading but they work Sundays themselves forcing me to listen to church bells everywhere and hoards of people who think they can sing.
I can buy booze, fags and any other items from petrol stations and convienance stores at inflated prices but not from a supermarket, how stupid is that.
Let the people decide for themselves when to shop, the keep Sunday special sad sacks need to bring themselves up to date and stop dictating to the rest of us.
Everybody to his or her own, if we want to shop on these days then we should, if you dont then dont, simple as that.

tt52 wrote:
The Sunday trading laws are way out of date and archaic, the world has changed over the years and works 24 hours a day. I can remember when i was younger that a paper shop could only open from 9am till 12 noon, this has long since changed along with half day closing. Why should i be dictated to by a select few when i can shop, this is just like the no smoking rules, another select bunch of complainers, which is putting pubs and restaurants out of buisness. I work shifts and would like to shop on either a bank holiday or Sunday, whats wrong with that ifits my choice. The law protects employers from forcing people to work Sundays so thats a non argument. Why should I be forced to pay sky high prices in convienance stores because supermarkets cannot open. It should be up to the individual wheather to shop on Sundays and bank holidays and not by dictatorships like the present government or the church. Visit any big supermarket on a Sunday and you will find that they are pretty full, doesn't that tell you something. Over recent years trading laws have been relaxed, alcohol laws to name one so lets get into the 21st centuary and let people think for themselves. If people are against shopping on Sundays and bank holidays then dont go there but dont impose your will on others. This country has become a nation of do gooders that refuse to move with the times and force their minority wishes on the rest of us. I know a few who work for Tesco and Sainsburys and none are forced to work Sundays and bank holidays but most do because of the extra money, again that is their choice. The church wingers are always fighting against Sunday trading but they work Sundays themselves forcing me to listen to church bells everywhere and hoards of people who think they can sing. I can buy booze, fags and any other items from petrol stations and convienance stores at inflated prices but not from a supermarket, how stupid is that. Let the people decide for themselves when to shop, the keep Sunday special sad sacks need to bring themselves up to date and stop dictating to the rest of us. Everybody to his or her own, if we want to shop on these days then we should, if you dont then dont, simple as that.

Good post, totally agree.

I think we should resort back to the old days where shops are shut on a Sunday.
I used to live in Germany and shops shut at midday on a Saturday (unless it was the 1st Saturday of the month or the run up to Xmas) and shut every Sunday.
It was good because it forced people to spend a day relaxing with their families, something that is sadly lacking in the UK's greedy commercial set up.
You would think that with shops open 24 hours and Internet shopping that the attendance at shopping centres would drop, but every Xmas they are still packed to over capacity, it is a nightmare with greedy angry self important idiots running around being obnoxious to everyone else.
It would also teach people to organise themselves a little bit better and to relax.

Sunday trading should be 9 to 3. And no Christmas day or Boxing Day opening. The workers need at least one day off over Xmas. What happened to Bank Holidays? Now it seems shop workers are expected to work these too. Who remembers half-day closing? We all survived then!This country is rapidly becoming Dickensian.

EGHH wrote:
Sunday trading should be 9 to 3. And no Christmas day or Boxing Day opening. The workers need at least one day off over Xmas. What happened to Bank Holidays? Now it seems shop workers are expected to work these too. Who remembers half-day closing? We all survived then!This country is rapidly becoming Dickensian.

Get your facts straight , shop workers are not expected to work bank holidays, it is now illegal to force anybody to work Sundays and bank holidays, people seem to forget that the working week has been cut to below 40 hours now, 30 years ago i worked 45 hours per week as standard now i work 37 hours as do most other poeple.
To all of you out there, stop trying to impose your will on everybody, if you dont want to shop on certain days then dont, just leave the rest of us to get on with our lives as we see fit and in return ou can get on with your boring lives af watching the tv or going to church, after all I am not attempting to persuade you to shop on Sundays or bank holidays, so keep your petty thoughts to yourself and let me do as i wish

i wonder if the people who post on here saying they want 24 hour shopping are in the trade, or if there trade was to go the same if they would appreciate it. you can shop 24 hours a day 6 days a week. if you cant fit your shopping in, in that time what a busy life you must lead!! give staff a break, what is wrong with having boxing day as a day with the family, rather than making people work.

tricky1007 wrote:
i wonder if the people who post on here saying they want 24 hour shopping are in the trade, or if there trade was to go the same if they would appreciate it. you can shop 24 hours a day 6 days a week. if you cant fit your shopping in, in that time what a busy life you must lead!! give staff a break, what is wrong with having boxing day as a day with the family, rather than making people work.

Obviously some of you dont read previous comments, you just cant wait to get on here and bulldoze your will onto the rest of us, the quote above is a fine example so i repeat , no body can force you to work on Sundays or bank holidays.

As I'm reading this debate the same arguments are obviously used by anyone who supports Sunday and Holiday shopping. All I hear even local here in Nova Scotia It should be my right to shop on Sunday. It should be my right to shop on Boxing day. All you hear is that workers can refuse to work. Yeah right? Workers are made to feel guilty for not working and this is played on them all the time by management. So and So has to work Sundays , so why not you? They don't stop pushing the guilt trip on employees until they cave in and work those shifts. They even had scheduled some employees and told them "I'm sorry I had to schedule you because we couldn't find anyone". Yes people this is a fact . Another argument is being used all over the world that business owners should have the right to open or close when they want to. But people what are you forgetting? Employees work for these companies and without them employers wouldn't have anything. This is a good one consumers want to shop when they want. OK I want all my groceries for free! I do not want to pay any taxes because that's my right. This is one of the biggest guilt trips being played on retail workers. Restaurants ,Call centers etc have to work on Sundays and Holidays so why not you? Why are retail workers so special? Come on people do you really believe this ?? We are all different and there are millions of people off on Sundays and Holidays. Quite a few of them are government workers etc. Are they ever compared to those who work these shifts? Why should everyone work because others do on Sundays and Holidays? So what you are saying if you get a car, I should have one to? We have to stop buying into all the propaganda being feed by the media. Because facts are people they are going to push for all it's worth to promote big business. Since when is it a bad thing to set time aside for our families? Ok we are all different. But if other occupations want to have Sundays and Holidays off can't they lobby government? How can you blame retail workers because other people chose to work on Sundays? I have to laugh even hospitals are compared to retail workers, to make them feel guilty . So if Hospitals are open 24/7 should everyone work 24/7? It's a silly concept but it has worked for big business and with the help of the media all this crap is being feed to the public. Wake up everyone we are all different. Another point I need to make, Can retail workers chose your day with your families? I think you know the answer to that question. How would you like it if the situation were reversed?? You want to see a debate have a look on this facebook page. Want Want Want.. one day to do with out shopping...they can not do it . Seriously there is something wrong - http://www.facebook.
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Bring back the old times. half day Wednesday and closed Sunday, also bring back the old pub times.

Christmas craziness strikes again! There were no postal deliveries or collections for four consecutive days last week (and they weren't even on strike) which is about the same length of time it seemed to take going through the checkout at Tesco. No wonder this country is virtually bankrupt!