Poole to lose Barfleur ferry link with France

Bournemouth Echo: The Barfleur The Barfleur

BITTER disappointment has greeted the shock news that Poole is to lose the Barfleur and its year-round ferry link with France.

The Barfleur, which for 17 years has been plying the route from the port to its twin town Cherbourg, is to be withdrawn in the spring.

The loss of the conventional ferry will leave the high-speed May to September service on the Normandie Vitesse, alongside the freight ferry Cotentin sailing to Cherbourg and Santander, Spain.

Brittany Ferries says there will be no immediate job losses in Poole but the Barfleur, which carries 1,212 passengers and 590 cars, has been haemorrhaging money.

“The Poole to Cherbourg route using the Barfleur has lost us money since 2003,” said spokesman Steve Tuckwell. “We are trying to stem the losses by withdrawing that ship from service.

“Although the Barfleur is being taken out of service we are going to be offering more crossings from Portsmouth.”

But that is scant comfort to Poole Harbour Commissioners, whose chief executive Jim Stewart said: “This came completely out of the blue.

“It’s a disappointment and it will certainly impact on the port. There will be a substantial reduction in the number of ferries coming in and out of Poole and a substantial drop in revenue for the port.”

He said they had not seen the schedules and as they had only had the news for 24 hours, it was too soon to know the consequences for jobs and the port.

Cllr Ron Parker, Borough of Poole cabinet portfolio holder for the local economy, said: “We are bitterly disappointed.

“While we understand that the ferries are going through a difficult period at the moment, there is extreme disappointment here at Poole both for tourism and the economy of the two towns.”

Bruce Grant-Braham, chairman of Poole Tourism Panel said: “Poole Tourism is trying to increase business in the shoulder times of the year so that is a blow.”

Mr Tuckwell said there was a possibility of job losses in the future, hopefully on a voluntary basis. And they were looking at increasing the number of sailings of the Cotentin.

The Barfleur will sail the route for the last time at the beginning of February and the Armorique will make the crossing until March 8.

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8:31am Sat 19 Dec 09

Lord Spring says...

That is bad news, worse than Threshers closing,
I imagine it will back to home brewing wine for me.
That is bad news, worse than Threshers closing, I imagine it will back to home brewing wine for me. Lord Spring
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8:32am Sat 19 Dec 09

poole man in france says...

This news is a great shame. Perhaps one of the reasons the route loses money is because of the extortionate fares charged. On many occasions I have intended using the route then booked on Le Havre-Portsmouth or Dieppe-Newhaven in preference simply because the fare is sometimes a quarter of what is charged on Cherbourg-Poole. If I do it I'm convinced others do too.
This news is a great shame. Perhaps one of the reasons the route loses money is because of the extortionate fares charged. On many occasions I have intended using the route then booked on Le Havre-Portsmouth or Dieppe-Newhaven in preference simply because the fare is sometimes a quarter of what is charged on Cherbourg-Poole. If I do it I'm convinced others do too. poole man in france
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8:44am Sat 19 Dec 09

John T says...

Ah well, this will give the perfect excuse for Poole Council to announce the postponement of work on the new Poole Bridge.
C'est la vie!
Ah well, this will give the perfect excuse for Poole Council to announce the postponement of work on the new Poole Bridge. C'est la vie! John T
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9:46am Sat 19 Dec 09

Afcbpete says...

Huge disappointment to my wife and I, as we travel on the Barfleur several times a year. For us, the extra cost out wayed any price differential. It will be sorely missed.
Huge disappointment to my wife and I, as we travel on the Barfleur several times a year. For us, the extra cost out wayed any price differential. It will be sorely missed. Afcbpete
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10:02am Sat 19 Dec 09

Devjon says...

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To replace incumbent who is on secondment from the Grauniad.
Wanted: Proof reader. Must have a grasp of English grammar, context and HTML. To replace incumbent who is on secondment from the Grauniad. Devjon
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10:29am Sat 19 Dec 09

Celestine71 says...

A terrible shame. A result of the economy crashing, the strength of the Euro against the Pound and the loss of duty concessions, all of which are down to the incompetence of our Government. Congratulations Mr Brown, you have done it again!
A terrible shame. A result of the economy crashing, the strength of the Euro against the Pound and the loss of duty concessions, all of which are down to the incompetence of our Government. Congratulations Mr Brown, you have done it again! Celestine71
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10:50am Sat 19 Dec 09

John T says...

Yes, after nearly 40 years of waiting under successive Tory Governments, that incompetent Government of Mr Brown made the funds available for a new bridge for Poole and Hamworthy. Now let's see what our worthy Tory local government decide about the bridge on which they said, earlier this year, construction would begin in Autumn 2009. So much for pyramid selling!
Yes, after nearly 40 years of waiting under successive Tory Governments, that incompetent Government of Mr Brown made the funds available for a new bridge for Poole and Hamworthy. Now let's see what our worthy Tory local government decide about the bridge on which they said, earlier this year, construction would begin in Autumn 2009. So much for pyramid selling! John T
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10:59am Sat 19 Dec 09

jon the observer says...

Positive note: - Less illegal immigrants descending on Poole.
Positive note: - Less illegal immigrants descending on Poole. jon the observer
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11:01am Sat 19 Dec 09

John T says...

Devjon wrote:
Wanted: Proof reader. Must have a grasp of English grammar, context and HTML. To replace incumbent who is on secondment from the Grauniad.
Well, at least our journalist was able to make it in through the snow today. Our proof reader was last seen checking a bottle of whiskey at last night's Christmas Party.
Merrry Krishmus from awl at the Echohoho!
[quote][p][bold]Devjon[/bold] wrote: Wanted: Proof reader. Must have a grasp of English grammar, context and HTML. To replace incumbent who is on secondment from the Grauniad.[/p][/quote]Well, at least our journalist was able to make it in through the snow today. Our proof reader was last seen checking a bottle of whiskey at last night's Christmas Party. Merrry Krishmus from awl at the Echohoho! John T
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11:06am Sat 19 Dec 09

rook says...

I think it's more a result of road connections. For the majority of the UK, getting to Europe is easier from Portsmouth or Dover rather than getting to Poole for a longer sea journey. The prices would have to be significantly cheaper to attract the trade, and then the ferry would lose money.

Real shame to see it go, though.
I think it's more a result of road connections. For the majority of the UK, getting to Europe is easier from Portsmouth or Dover rather than getting to Poole for a longer sea journey. The prices would have to be significantly cheaper to attract the trade, and then the ferry would lose money. Real shame to see it go, though. rook
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11:51am Sat 19 Dec 09

John T says...

rook
I agree with you. The A350 between Poole and M4/Bristol is the only part of the Trans Europe Road Network between Gibraltar and the North of Scotland that is not dual carriageway.
You would have thought that Poole's MP, with one of his homes in Chippenham, would have done more to get improvements to this section of road over the last 13 years he has been our MP.
rook I agree with you. The A350 between Poole and M4/Bristol is the only part of the Trans Europe Road Network between Gibraltar and the North of Scotland that is not dual carriageway. You would have thought that Poole's MP, with one of his homes in Chippenham, would have done more to get improvements to this section of road over the last 13 years he has been our MP. John T
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12:01pm Sat 19 Dec 09

PatinPoole says...

Not surprising the road links to the Port are abysmal, who would choose to drive a large Lorry in this area or try to get to Bristol or Wales from Poole. Many drivers have been put off using the Port because they have missed sailings having been "caught by the Bridge". The inept local Councils must take a lot of the blame!
Not surprising the road links to the Port are abysmal, who would choose to drive a large Lorry in this area or try to get to Bristol or Wales from Poole. Many drivers have been put off using the Port because they have missed sailings having been "caught by the Bridge". The inept local Councils must take a lot of the blame! PatinPoole
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12:30pm Sat 19 Dec 09

Derf says...

Brittany have just splashed out 85 million Euros buying a second hand ship so they can run a 2 ship service on their Portsmouth - Santander route, Persumably the Barfleur will be sold to help pay for it.
Brittany have just splashed out 85 million Euros buying a second hand ship so they can run a 2 ship service on their Portsmouth - Santander route, Persumably the Barfleur will be sold to help pay for it. Derf
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1:01pm Sat 19 Dec 09

Lord Spring says...

John T wrote:
Devjon wrote: Wanted: Proof reader. Must have a grasp of English grammar, context and HTML. To replace incumbent who is on secondment from the Grauniad.
Well, at least our journalist was able to make it in through the snow today. Our proof reader was last seen checking a bottle of whiskey at last night's Christmas Party. Merrry Krishmus from awl at the Echohoho!
Must have been Irish whiskey and not Scotch whisky
[quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Devjon[/bold] wrote: Wanted: Proof reader. Must have a grasp of English grammar, context and HTML. To replace incumbent who is on secondment from the Grauniad.[/p][/quote]Well, at least our journalist was able to make it in through the snow today. Our proof reader was last seen checking a bottle of whiskey at last night's Christmas Party. Merrry Krishmus from awl at the Echohoho![/p][/quote]Must have been Irish whiskey and not Scotch whisky Lord Spring
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1:10pm Sat 19 Dec 09

rayc says...

Some of the problem must have been the cost to use it. I wanted to take my MH + 2 to Cherbourg in October and the cost was £350. A quote for next August was £550. It is cheaper to drive to Dover and use the tunnel or ferry even taking fuel into account.
The traffic was of course 'one way' with not many continental holiday makers using it. despite what Poole Council would have you believe Poole is not an attractive place for continentals to visit, there are much better attractions and facilities on the continent + no dracomnian parking enforcement and costs.
Some of the problem must have been the cost to use it. I wanted to take my MH + 2 to Cherbourg in October and the cost was £350. A quote for next August was £550. It is cheaper to drive to Dover and use the tunnel or ferry even taking fuel into account. The traffic was of course 'one way' with not many continental holiday makers using it. despite what Poole Council would have you believe Poole is not an attractive place for continentals to visit, there are much better attractions and facilities on the continent + no dracomnian parking enforcement and costs. rayc
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1:38pm Sat 19 Dec 09

baldyn says...

serves em right for dropping 100 ton anchors on the heads of little sea horses,
serves em right for dropping 100 ton anchors on the heads of little sea horses, baldyn
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1:52pm Sat 19 Dec 09

let-it-loose says...

Poole Harbour is one of the finest entrances to the UK by sea, however this always was an expensive service which needed better road connections in to Poole. It has been a largely forgotten and ignored service by those from mainland Europe, who thanks to all the UK "authorities that be" and soft shoe shufflers on final salary pensions, have failed to promote and seek investment in the infrastructure and very county that is Dorset. Don't blame Gordon for this one, look a little closer to home - PHC, Poole Council etc. really should have seen this coming. It's not too late for the PHC to work on Britanny Ferries but they won't.
Poole Harbour is one of the finest entrances to the UK by sea, however this always was an expensive service which needed better road connections in to Poole. It has been a largely forgotten and ignored service by those from mainland Europe, who thanks to all the UK "authorities that be" and soft shoe shufflers on final salary pensions, have failed to promote and seek investment in the infrastructure and very county that is Dorset. Don't blame Gordon for this one, look a little closer to home - PHC, Poole Council etc. really should have seen this coming. It's not too late for the PHC to work on Britanny Ferries but they won't. let-it-loose
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4:05pm Sat 19 Dec 09

sea poole says...

Now let's see our local MP (or is he really the MP for Chippenham or IKEA) earn his expenses that almost always reach the maximum. Rt Hon Mr Syms, get your brain into gear for retaining the ferry service, instead of filling in your expenses forms!
Now let's see our local MP (or is he really the MP for Chippenham or IKEA) earn his expenses that almost always reach the maximum. Rt Hon Mr Syms, get your brain into gear for retaining the ferry service, instead of filling in your expenses forms! sea poole
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4:25pm Sat 19 Dec 09

Tig says...

Agree with others above - the fares from Poole are extortionate and it is this fact that has put me off using them.
Agree with others above - the fares from Poole are extortionate and it is this fact that has put me off using them. Tig
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4:26pm Sat 19 Dec 09

Tig says...

Agree with others above - the fares are extortionate from Poole. This has certainly put me off using them.
Agree with others above - the fares are extortionate from Poole. This has certainly put me off using them. Tig
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4:43pm Sat 19 Dec 09

[Chris] says...

I did notice when booking our ferry passage Poole to Cherbourg online that it showed as Poole/Portsmouth to Cherbourg. I am now wondering if this was a premptive notification of the Balfleur being removed from service.
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We are travelling out with the Normandie Vitesse High Speed ferry, but because of timings and distance in France, to Cherbourg, we are returning with Balfleur on the evening run.
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Certainly Brittany Ferries did not mention anything of this when I booked 3 weeks ago. I do think a telephone call is required.
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The French services have been renewing a lot of road on the route out of Cherbourg, and in particular down to Brittany.
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I do believe it is down to costs on this route, but as already pointed out what one spends on this route is saved in travelling to other ports, and greater distances in France.
I did notice when booking our ferry passage Poole to Cherbourg online that it showed as Poole/Portsmouth to Cherbourg. I am now wondering if this was a premptive notification of the Balfleur being removed from service. . We are travelling out with the Normandie Vitesse High Speed ferry, but because of timings and distance in France, to Cherbourg, we are returning with Balfleur on the evening run. . Certainly Brittany Ferries did not mention anything of this when I booked 3 weeks ago. I do think a telephone call is required. . The French services have been renewing a lot of road on the route out of Cherbourg, and in particular down to Brittany. . I do believe it is down to costs on this route, but as already pointed out what one spends on this route is saved in travelling to other ports, and greater distances in France. [Chris]
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5:46pm Sat 19 Dec 09

christophe1 says...

I am quite shocked .
I first traveled on Barfleur when it was brand new and I travel 10+ times a year I have found this article on a French website which is interesting.

http://www.lamanchel
ibre.fr/Un-nouveau-f
erry-pour-Cherbourg,
2.media?f=3534
I am quite shocked . I first traveled on Barfleur when it was brand new and I travel 10+ times a year I have found this article on a French website which is interesting. http://www.lamanchel ibre.fr/Un-nouveau-f erry-pour-Cherbourg, 2.media?f=3534 christophe1
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6:02pm Sat 19 Dec 09

AFCB_REPUBLICAN says...

The route was always popular with daytrippers who would go over to stock up at the hypermarket during the run up to Christmas. Unfortunately it has not been possible to make a day trip thanks to this years timetable. A great shame.
The route was always popular with daytrippers who would go over to stock up at the hypermarket during the run up to Christmas. Unfortunately it has not been possible to make a day trip thanks to this years timetable. A great shame. AFCB_REPUBLICAN
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7:00pm Sat 19 Dec 09

pipistrollers says...

What a shame. I used it to go hypermarketing. It was cheap to go as a foot passenger.
What a shame. I used it to go hypermarketing. It was cheap to go as a foot passenger. pipistrollers
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7:07pm Sat 19 Dec 09

Henry Bear says...

Oh Dear, this is a shame, this boat is as much a part of Poole as Poole Pottery, the SBS and dodgy councilors.

Now I have no reason to buy the Echo for it £10 fare offers, I would imagine the Echo are also sorry to see this money spinner go...

I went on the ferry recently when all the wind and rain was about, felt sick for days after, very very bouncy.

The timings of sailings in winter are not great for day trippers, perhaps if sailed les often it would be more cost effective?
To sail out at 11pm and arrive at 6am then do not leave port to come back until 7pm makes it a long day and not ideal for familys.

Echo men - Can we have one last £10 offer to say goodbye with a trip?
Oh Dear, this is a shame, this boat is as much a part of Poole as Poole Pottery, the SBS and dodgy councilors. Now I have no reason to buy the Echo for it £10 fare offers, I would imagine the Echo are also sorry to see this money spinner go... I went on the ferry recently when all the wind and rain was about, felt sick for days after, very very bouncy. The timings of sailings in winter are not great for day trippers, perhaps if sailed les often it would be more cost effective? To sail out at 11pm and arrive at 6am then do not leave port to come back until 7pm makes it a long day and not ideal for familys. Echo men - Can we have one last £10 offer to say goodbye with a trip? Henry Bear
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9:41pm Sat 19 Dec 09

X Old Bill says...

christophe1 wrote:
I am quite shocked .
I first traveled on Barfleur when it was brand new and I travel 10+ times a year I have found this article on a French website which is interesting.

http://www.lamanchel

ibre.fr/Un-nouveau-f

erry-pour-Cherbourg,

2.media?f=3534
So, in the space of exactly 12 months Brittany Ferries have gone from 'opening a new service with a new bigger ship' to 'taking the existing ship off the existing route'
That's some turn around!
When they had a respectable ferry service from Weymouth then Poole could always claim to have better transport links, looks like the lack of Motorways in Dorset is picking off the ports one by one.
[quote][p][bold]christophe1[/bold] wrote: I am quite shocked . I first traveled on Barfleur when it was brand new and I travel 10+ times a year I have found this article on a French website which is interesting. http://www.lamanchel ibre.fr/Un-nouveau-f erry-pour-Cherbourg, 2.media?f=3534[/p][/quote]So, in the space of exactly 12 months Brittany Ferries have gone from 'opening a new service with a new bigger ship' to 'taking the existing ship off the existing route' That's some turn around! When they had a respectable ferry service from Weymouth then Poole could always claim to have better transport links, looks like the lack of Motorways in Dorset is picking off the ports one by one. X Old Bill
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12:01am Sun 20 Dec 09

rotcoddam says...

The harbour commissioners and council say this came right out of the blue and was totally unexpected. Really well this just shows how totally out of touch with reality these officials are, they are unfit to be in the jobs they have.

I used to travel on the Barfleur regularly ( couple of trips per month)having busness interests in Cherbourg at the time. Since the end of duty free and the meteoric rise in french tobbaco taxes the volume of customers on the Barfleur(even on echo voucher day trips) was getting rapidly less every year. For the last two or three years being on the Barfleur was often like having ones own private super yacht. Only on that one would probably have more company. For years now there has rarely been enough customers even in the summer for them to open the resteraunt or even the tea bar. I can remember when in the summer you would be very lucky to even find a seat on many trips. Last year you could rarely spot a fellow passenger on most trips.

Cherbourg itself has gone rapidly downhill with many of the cafe bars closing or opening greatly reduced hours. Loads of empty shops and shop and hotel businesses closing and being turned into flats.Due entirely to the lack of english trippers and holiday makers who spent freely on the many lower priced and better quality goods.

So someone tell me what sort of halfwit could not see this coming..
The harbour commissioners and council say this came right out of the blue and was totally unexpected. Really well this just shows how totally out of touch with reality these officials are, they are unfit to be in the jobs they have. I used to travel on the Barfleur regularly ( couple of trips per month)having busness interests in Cherbourg at the time. Since the end of duty free and the meteoric rise in french tobbaco taxes the volume of customers on the Barfleur(even on echo voucher day trips) was getting rapidly less every year. For the last two or three years being on the Barfleur was often like having ones own private super yacht. Only on that one would probably have more company. For years now there has rarely been enough customers even in the summer for them to open the resteraunt or even the tea bar. I can remember when in the summer you would be very lucky to even find a seat on many trips. Last year you could rarely spot a fellow passenger on most trips. Cherbourg itself has gone rapidly downhill with many of the cafe bars closing or opening greatly reduced hours. Loads of empty shops and shop and hotel businesses closing and being turned into flats.Due entirely to the lack of english trippers and holiday makers who spent freely on the many lower priced and better quality goods. So someone tell me what sort of halfwit could not see this coming.. rotcoddam
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4:23am Sun 20 Dec 09

Derf says...

i think the Barfleur has had recurring engine problems in the past, and Brittany have implemented a timetable that is not condusive to day trips because the engines cannot handle those type of turn arounds.
Brittany have recently sold the Pont de Abbie from it's plymouth - roscoff route, and is likely to charter the Barfleur to another operator in order to help fund the purchase of Superfast V (and subsequent re-fit)from Greece for a Portsmouth - Spain route. None of this helps Poole of course, however, it would suggest that axing the Barfleur was an option Brittany had been mulling over for some time, and maybe early discussions with PHC about their options could have allowed them (PHC) to maybe revise berthing fees, facilities (the berths are not long enough for Brittany's other tonnage) etc... and thus made Poole an attractive option.
i think the Barfleur has had recurring engine problems in the past, and Brittany have implemented a timetable that is not condusive to day trips because the engines cannot handle those type of turn arounds. Brittany have recently sold the Pont de Abbie from it's plymouth - roscoff route, and is likely to charter the Barfleur to another operator in order to help fund the purchase of Superfast V (and subsequent re-fit)from Greece for a Portsmouth - Spain route. None of this helps Poole of course, however, it would suggest that axing the Barfleur was an option Brittany had been mulling over for some time, and maybe early discussions with PHC about their options could have allowed them (PHC) to maybe revise berthing fees, facilities (the berths are not long enough for Brittany's other tonnage) etc... and thus made Poole an attractive option. Derf
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5:55am Sun 20 Dec 09

Henry Bear says...

rotcoddam wrote:
The harbour commissioners and council say this came right out of the blue and was totally unexpected. Really well this just shows how totally out of touch with reality these officials are, they are unfit to be in the jobs they have. I used to travel on the Barfleur regularly ( couple of trips per month)having busness interests in Cherbourg at the time. Since the end of duty free and the meteoric rise in french tobbaco taxes the volume of customers on the Barfleur(even on echo voucher day trips) was getting rapidly less every year. For the last two or three years being on the Barfleur was often like having ones own private super yacht. Only on that one would probably have more company. For years now there has rarely been enough customers even in the summer for them to open the resteraunt or even the tea bar. I can remember when in the summer you would be very lucky to even find a seat on many trips. Last year you could rarely spot a fellow passenger on most trips. Cherbourg itself has gone rapidly downhill with many of the cafe bars closing or opening greatly reduced hours. Loads of empty shops and shop and hotel businesses closing and being turned into flats.Due entirely to the lack of english trippers and holiday makers who spent freely on the many lower priced and better quality goods. So someone tell me what sort of halfwit could not see this coming..
Our supermarkets are yet again to shoulder some of the blame for falling numbers.

Their alcahol prices are cheaper than going to France when the deals are on.
[quote][p][bold]rotcoddam[/bold] wrote: The harbour commissioners and council say this came right out of the blue and was totally unexpected. Really well this just shows how totally out of touch with reality these officials are, they are unfit to be in the jobs they have. I used to travel on the Barfleur regularly ( couple of trips per month)having busness interests in Cherbourg at the time. Since the end of duty free and the meteoric rise in french tobbaco taxes the volume of customers on the Barfleur(even on echo voucher day trips) was getting rapidly less every year. For the last two or three years being on the Barfleur was often like having ones own private super yacht. Only on that one would probably have more company. For years now there has rarely been enough customers even in the summer for them to open the resteraunt or even the tea bar. I can remember when in the summer you would be very lucky to even find a seat on many trips. Last year you could rarely spot a fellow passenger on most trips. Cherbourg itself has gone rapidly downhill with many of the cafe bars closing or opening greatly reduced hours. Loads of empty shops and shop and hotel businesses closing and being turned into flats.Due entirely to the lack of english trippers and holiday makers who spent freely on the many lower priced and better quality goods. So someone tell me what sort of halfwit could not see this coming..[/p][/quote]Our supermarkets are yet again to shoulder some of the blame for falling numbers. Their alcahol prices are cheaper than going to France when the deals are on. Henry Bear
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9:00am Sun 20 Dec 09

twynham says...

I agree with all the comments regarding Brittany Ferries prices.
I travel to the Flanders coast in Belgium frequently and use Norfolk Line from Dover-Dunkerque. (lovely area and cheap wine & tobacco)
3 hours drive to Dover, £50 in fuel, 2 hour crossing with sailings every 2 hours; £30 for car & 4 people. (last week I paid £19)

Brittany Ferries £224 for the same dates!!!
I agree with all the comments regarding Brittany Ferries prices. I travel to the Flanders coast in Belgium frequently and use Norfolk Line from Dover-Dunkerque. (lovely area and cheap wine & tobacco) 3 hours drive to Dover, £50 in fuel, 2 hour crossing with sailings every 2 hours; £30 for car & 4 people. (last week I paid £19) Brittany Ferries £224 for the same dates!!! twynham
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9:26am Sun 20 Dec 09

MJD says...

This is music to my ears and very excellent news, this is the best Christmas present i have had in years. Brittany Ferries only have themselves to blame. As has been said by Twynham to dam expensive. The good bit, less HGV on the road wearing them out and the bridge also less pollution. Regards to the harbour it will be more environmentally friendly and there will be less erosion with out the Barfleur.
This is music to my ears and very excellent news, this is the best Christmas present i have had in years. Brittany Ferries only have themselves to blame. As has been said by Twynham to dam expensive. The good bit, less HGV on the road wearing them out and the bridge also less pollution. Regards to the harbour it will be more environmentally friendly and there will be less erosion with out the Barfleur. MJD
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9:34am Sun 20 Dec 09

samsmith says...

I agree with comments about transport links to and from Poole. Though I think it would be a poor use of tax payers money to start trying to build motorways across the county to try and counter this when, in terms of freight, there are other ports that are far better equipped. I don't think this should be put down to bad planning by the harbour authority or the council: Poole is a small fishing port when compared to its neighbours. We are now in an age of free trade and if it's cheaper to use an alternative port... so be it.
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Depending on where the freight is originiating from on the continent then there is a whole range of ports along the south coast with better road and rail links to the north than Poole. If you are going to the west of England then Plymouth is probably a better port to use.
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In fact if they were to use a port to get to Wales and the west, then Weymouth is probably a better option than Poole as you're straight onto the A37 which can take you up to Yeovil and on to the M5. There is also the rail link to Westbury and beyond.
I agree with comments about transport links to and from Poole. Though I think it would be a poor use of tax payers money to start trying to build motorways across the county to try and counter this when, in terms of freight, there are other ports that are far better equipped. I don't think this should be put down to bad planning by the harbour authority or the council: Poole is a small fishing port when compared to its neighbours. We are now in an age of free trade and if it's cheaper to use an alternative port... so be it. . Depending on where the freight is originiating from on the continent then there is a whole range of ports along the south coast with better road and rail links to the north than Poole. If you are going to the west of England then Plymouth is probably a better port to use. . In fact if they were to use a port to get to Wales and the west, then Weymouth is probably a better option than Poole as you're straight onto the A37 which can take you up to Yeovil and on to the M5. There is also the rail link to Westbury and beyond. samsmith
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9:43am Sun 20 Dec 09

l'anglais says...

When P&O pulled the plug on its trips to France from Newhaven & Portsmouth, the pound was strong yet the marketing boffs at Brittany Ferries & Poole Tourism did nothing.
It takes less time for a foot passenger to travel from Poole/Bournemouth to Paris by ferry & SNCF than via Waterloo & Eurostar.
"Poole it's a Beautiful place" you just can't get there.
Then when you do, the south west road network is so poor, you can't get anywhere else.
As for those on here moaning about the cost, when Thomson & Ryanair were running low cost flights out of Hurn, they both were both scrapped due to lack of use.
Ferries from Marseille/Nice to Corsica, Tunis & Algiers are packed & passengers pay far more than the £350 from Poole to Cherbourg.
You get what you pay for!
When P&O pulled the plug on its trips to France from Newhaven & Portsmouth, the pound was strong yet the marketing boffs at Brittany Ferries & Poole Tourism did nothing. It takes less time for a foot passenger to travel from Poole/Bournemouth to Paris by ferry & SNCF than via Waterloo & Eurostar. "Poole it's a Beautiful place" you just can't get there. Then when you do, the south west road network is so poor, you can't get anywhere else. As for those on here moaning about the cost, when Thomson & Ryanair were running low cost flights out of Hurn, they both were both scrapped due to lack of use. Ferries from Marseille/Nice to Corsica, Tunis & Algiers are packed & passengers pay far more than the £350 from Poole to Cherbourg. You get what you pay for! l'anglais
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9:51am Sun 20 Dec 09

Gastines says...

Pity the Poole and Bournemouth Tourist Offices didn't get off their backsides and promote the area to the French shoppers and Tourists. With the current exchange rates and the bargains available in local stores.shopping in London needn't have been the only option .As usual with the local Councils and Officials"We didn't see that coming" I thought the idea of the new expensive business generating offices was to look for means to produce new business and help generate income for the town. I just hope Sunseeker don't suffer too much in the downturn or from unhelpfull officials as I see a rather large stockpile all over the harbour area.
Pity the Poole and Bournemouth Tourist Offices didn't get off their backsides and promote the area to the French shoppers and Tourists. With the current exchange rates and the bargains available in local stores.shopping in London needn't have been the only option .As usual with the local Councils and Officials"We didn't see that coming" I thought the idea of the new expensive business generating offices was to look for means to produce new business and help generate income for the town. I just hope Sunseeker don't suffer too much in the downturn or from unhelpfull officials as I see a rather large stockpile all over the harbour area. Gastines
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10:15am Sun 20 Dec 09

[Chris] says...

Gastines, Sunseekers is already suffering in the downturn. Our son in law has just in the last week been made redundant from the company along with many others.
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What we must realise is that the Normandie Vitesse will still be running from May to September. This carries 750 passengers, and 154 cars. In addition to this, the Contentin will still operate from Poole as a freight transporter, carrying 120 lorries/units.
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It is a mas reduction on services removing the Barfleur, but it is not the end of the road as yet. Plus 50 miles or so to the east we have Portsmouth, with both BF and PO to Cherbourg and LeHavre. And of course Condor Ferries from Weymouth to St. Malo. This routes cuts a great deal of driving if driving to Brittany.
Gastines, Sunseekers is already suffering in the downturn. Our son in law has just in the last week been made redundant from the company along with many others. . What we must realise is that the Normandie Vitesse will still be running from May to September. This carries 750 passengers, and 154 cars. In addition to this, the Contentin will still operate from Poole as a freight transporter, carrying 120 lorries/units. . It is a mas reduction on services removing the Barfleur, but it is not the end of the road as yet. Plus 50 miles or so to the east we have Portsmouth, with both BF and PO to Cherbourg and LeHavre. And of course Condor Ferries from Weymouth to St. Malo. This routes cuts a great deal of driving if driving to Brittany. [Chris]
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11:01am Sun 20 Dec 09

John T says...

jon the observer wrote:
Positive note: - Less illegal immigrants descending on Poole.
And good news for those Conservatives and UKIP who want to cut our links with Europe!
[quote][p][bold]jon the observer[/bold] wrote: Positive note: - Less illegal immigrants descending on Poole.[/p][/quote]And good news for those Conservatives and UKIP who want to cut our links with Europe! John T
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11:14am Sun 20 Dec 09

sea poole says...

So, where's a comment from the leader of this constituency -Rt Hon Robert Invisible MP?
So, where's a comment from the leader of this constituency -Rt Hon Robert Invisible MP? sea poole
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12:01pm Sun 20 Dec 09

chatsworth says...

Sometimes the solution is simple
1 Dont make fares complicated-sw trains please also note!!
2 Make the service competitive-see earlier comments
3 Give the customers what they want ie timetable user friendly for fare structure
4 make the most of the current eurotunnel /dover ports situation
5 explore other routes-perhaps Spain?

What poole has in its favour is a rail link to London(why not have a Boat train direct from london/poole in the early hours?)

Listen to your customers/find out who they are and offer them a service that they want----repeat business!!
Sometimes the solution is simple 1 Dont make fares complicated-sw trains please also note!! 2 Make the service competitive-see earlier comments 3 Give the customers what they want ie timetable user friendly for fare structure 4 make the most of the current eurotunnel /dover ports situation 5 explore other routes-perhaps Spain? What poole has in its favour is a rail link to London(why not have a Boat train direct from london/poole in the early hours?) Listen to your customers/find out who they are and offer them a service that they want----repeat business!! chatsworth
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12:21pm Sun 20 Dec 09

rook says...

Does this affect the viability of the Holes Bay bridge. I'd suggest a serious review as if the lorry traffic is drying up, then there may be no need for the bridge and the council can save a few million quid?
Does this affect the viability of the Holes Bay bridge. I'd suggest a serious review as if the lorry traffic is drying up, then there may be no need for the bridge and the council can save a few million quid? rook
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2:10pm Sun 20 Dec 09

Gastines says...

I hope to see an article in the Echo early next week pointing out what the Poole and Bournemouth Councillors.Local M.P's and M.E.P. are doing to rectify this loss or in fact if they've ever done anything to try and raise the profile of the service!!
I hope to see an article in the Echo early next week pointing out what the Poole and Bournemouth Councillors.Local M.P's and M.E.P. are doing to rectify this loss or in fact if they've ever done anything to try and raise the profile of the service!! Gastines
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3:29pm Sun 20 Dec 09

Kevicious says...

Don't worry, the tourist board and council have come up with a visionary solution.

I hear from an inside source that they are going to fill the entire harbour in with concrete, and build 100,000 luxury flats to 'boost the local economy'.
Don't worry, the tourist board and council have come up with a visionary solution. I hear from an inside source that they are going to fill the entire harbour in with concrete, and build 100,000 luxury flats to 'boost the local economy'. Kevicious
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3:46pm Sun 20 Dec 09

Emulated says...

I was told the service was cancelled due to the turbulant sea caused by the Boscombe Surf Grief.
I was told the service was cancelled due to the turbulant sea caused by the Boscombe Surf Grief. Emulated
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4:20pm Sun 20 Dec 09

bofors says...

Kevicious wrote:
Don't worry, the tourist board and council have come up with a visionary solution.

I hear from an inside source that they are going to fill the entire harbour in with concrete, and build 100,000 luxury flats to 'boost the local economy'.
Are you sure its not the harbour,but branksome rec ?.Did you get your info from BRAG.
[quote][p][bold]Kevicious[/bold] wrote: Don't worry, the tourist board and council have come up with a visionary solution. I hear from an inside source that they are going to fill the entire harbour in with concrete, and build 100,000 luxury flats to 'boost the local economy'.[/p][/quote]Are you sure its not the harbour,but branksome rec ?.Did you get your info from BRAG. bofors
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4:52pm Sun 20 Dec 09

John T says...

Kevicious wrote:
Don't worry, the tourist board and council have come up with a visionary solution. I hear from an inside source that they are going to fill the entire harbour in with concrete, and build 100,000 luxury flats to 'boost the local economy'.
And they are going to call it Sandbanks to help the Echo with their geography and help Tom, Dick and Harry hide from the taxman!
[quote][p][bold]Kevicious[/bold] wrote: Don't worry, the tourist board and council have come up with a visionary solution. I hear from an inside source that they are going to fill the entire harbour in with concrete, and build 100,000 luxury flats to 'boost the local economy'.[/p][/quote]And they are going to call it Sandbanks to help the Echo with their geography and help Tom, Dick and Harry hide from the taxman! John T
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5:32pm Sun 20 Dec 09

John T says...

Gastines wrote:
I hope to see an article in the Echo early next week pointing out what the Poole and Bournemouth Councillors.Local M.P's and M.E.P. are doing to rectify this loss or in fact if they've ever done anything to try and raise the profile of the service!!
In December 1999, Robert Sins was appointed as a Shadow Minister for Transport and for the Regions. After 2 years of intense work as a Shadow, he found his time taken up with more important matters. From 2001-2005, he was Vice-Chairman of the Conservative Party. This position held him in good stead when he embarked on his next important mission for the following 4 years, i.e. becoming joint leading claimant of MPs' second home allowances!
As for the local Conservative MEPs, no-one knows who they are;although I believe the father of one of them sailed round the World once, but I don't know if the son has ever even sailed round Poole Harbour!
[quote][p][bold]Gastines[/bold] wrote: I hope to see an article in the Echo early next week pointing out what the Poole and Bournemouth Councillors.Local M.P's and M.E.P. are doing to rectify this loss or in fact if they've ever done anything to try and raise the profile of the service!![/p][/quote]In December 1999, Robert Sins was appointed as a Shadow Minister for Transport and for the Regions. After 2 years of intense work as a Shadow, he found his time taken up with more important matters. From 2001-2005, he was Vice-Chairman of the Conservative Party. This position held him in good stead when he embarked on his next important mission for the following 4 years, i.e. becoming joint leading claimant of MPs' second home allowances! As for the local Conservative MEPs, no-one knows who they are;although I believe the father of one of them sailed round the World once, but I don't know if the son has ever even sailed round Poole Harbour! John T
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6:01pm Sun 20 Dec 09

John T says...

John T wrote:
Kevicious wrote: Don't worry, the tourist board and council have come up with a visionary solution. I hear from an inside source that they are going to fill the entire harbour in with concrete, and build 100,000 luxury flats to 'boost the local economy'.
And they are going to call it Sandbanks to help the Echo with their geography and help Tom, Dick and Harry hide from the taxman!
Sorry, that Dick should be Richard!
[quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kevicious[/bold] wrote: Don't worry, the tourist board and council have come up with a visionary solution. I hear from an inside source that they are going to fill the entire harbour in with concrete, and build 100,000 luxury flats to 'boost the local economy'.[/p][/quote]And they are going to call it Sandbanks to help the Echo with their geography and help Tom, Dick and Harry hide from the taxman![/p][/quote]Sorry, that Dick should be Richard! John T
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6:48pm Sun 20 Dec 09

dribble says...

It will be a sad day for me when the Barfleur stops running from Poole.
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She is part of the Poole Bay landscape to me and was a lovely ship to travel on.
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RIP Barfleur - thank you for the wonderful trips I travelled on your decks.
It will be a sad day for me when the Barfleur stops running from Poole. .. She is part of the Poole Bay landscape to me and was a lovely ship to travel on. .. RIP Barfleur - thank you for the wonderful trips I travelled on your decks. dribble
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7:24pm Sun 20 Dec 09

braddan76 says...

join the facebook group bonvoyage MV Barfleur
join the facebook group bonvoyage MV Barfleur braddan76
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8:31pm Sun 20 Dec 09

sea poole says...

Any comment yet from our vigilant RT Hon Robert Syms MP?
Some people say he's Poole's answer to Father Christmas i.e. do we believe he really exists?
Any comment yet from our vigilant RT Hon Robert Syms MP? Some people say he's Poole's answer to Father Christmas i.e. do we believe he really exists? sea poole
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9:28pm Sun 20 Dec 09

kerbut says...

It may have a silver lining, what if LD Lines take on the route, cheaper fares ,after all they are making Portsmouth / Le Harve pay whwn P&O could not
It may have a silver lining, what if LD Lines take on the route, cheaper fares ,after all they are making Portsmouth / Le Harve pay whwn P&O could not kerbut
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10:52pm Sun 20 Dec 09

Derf says...

BF are eying up SeaFrance for a takeover.
Me thinks Barfleur will be stretched and plying Dover - Calais soon.
BF are eying up SeaFrance for a takeover. Me thinks Barfleur will be stretched and plying Dover - Calais soon. Derf
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11:52am Mon 21 Dec 09

jeebuscripes says...

The Poole to Cherbourg trip was too expensive. We were quoted £450 for a return crossing. It cost us about £100 from Dover.

Seemed silly driving all the way to Dover when we could go from Poole but we couldn't afford the nearest option. I wonder how many other people do this too.
The Poole to Cherbourg trip was too expensive. We were quoted £450 for a return crossing. It cost us about £100 from Dover. Seemed silly driving all the way to Dover when we could go from Poole but we couldn't afford the nearest option. I wonder how many other people do this too. jeebuscripes
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1:36pm Wed 23 Dec 09

born2bongo says...

Never found Dover an option as I normally had to do a long drive on the other side as well.

LD lines was a fantastic discovery though. Portsmouth is an easy drive and Le Havre is just across the river from the beautiful Honfleur.

The price has always been at least £200 less than the Poole-Cherbourg run (even though the latter is a shorter stretch of water).

The LD boat is much nicer than the Barfleur in our opinion, and the food is infinitely better.

Please, please, please come to Poole LD Lines
Never found Dover an option as I normally had to do a long drive on the other side as well. LD lines was a fantastic discovery though. Portsmouth is an easy drive and Le Havre is just across the river from the beautiful Honfleur. The price has always been at least £200 less than the Poole-Cherbourg run (even though the latter is a shorter stretch of water). The LD boat is much nicer than the Barfleur in our opinion, and the food is infinitely better. Please, please, please come to Poole LD Lines born2bongo
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