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8:00am Tuesday 24th November 2009
Even worse - that is the overwhelming response from motorists in Bournemouth after changes to the controversial A338 Spur Road works caused more chaos across the conurbation on Monday.
One angry driver said it took him one hour and 40 minutes to get from Boscombe to Wimborne and another spent 50 minutes travelling from Queens Park to Westbourne – a journey that should only take 15 minutes.
Yesterday morning marked the start of the surveying and environmental works moving from the southbound carriageway of the Spur Road to the northbound.
Dorset County Council chiefs decided to switch the works following concerns from businesses in Christchurch, Poole and Bournemouth that their timing couldn’t have come at a worse time of the year.
But not only did the works cause heavy tail backs as expected on the northbound carriageway, they also left traffic at a standstill on the southbound lanes from the Cooper Dean roundabout to St Pauls roundabout as motorists travelling northbound tried to leave the Wessex Way early.
Yesterday project leader David Diaz said: “We do appreciate the tailbacks that resulted this morning were worse than before.
“It is not acceptable we had problems on both carriageways and previously it was only on one. If it does continue over the next couple of days we will have to seriously look again.”
Many motorists were left fuming. One wrote: “So the road works start at Blackwater Junction with just a small section of road being worked on, yet the bollards start at Cooper Dean. And they wonder why the whole area is gridlocked this morning. Put the bollards out after rush hour. Surely that makes more sense than Bournemouth coming to a complete standstill, thousands of lost hours at work, CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere from stationary cars. These works are a complete joke.”
And another motorist said: “The management of the whole project is completely appalling.
“At least last week there was one moving carriageway – now they have two at a virtual standstill.
“The delays on the southbound side are just as bad as last week (15-20 minutes) despite the roadworks having moved side – it’s just they are now at the Bournemouth end rather than the Ringwood end.”
Nigel Hedges, president of Bournemouth’s Chamber of Trade and Commerce, said: “The chamber of trade regrets any problems encountered by people trying to get into work or to do shopping.”
He suggested people should change their travel patterns to avoid getting caught up in the delays.
“It is obvious that people are going to have to change their travel plans. Why not come in early and have breakfast in the town or look for alternative routes?”
Reports this morning suggest traffic had avoided the A338 into town, leaving the Wessex Way clearer than yesterday.
But some drivers were caught up in long jams in Boscombe and Southbourne as motorists tried to take the normally quieter back roads.
Let us know if you got caught up, and where, in the comments below.
PHew, Bournemouth says...
8:11am Tue 24 Nov 09
bisadave, Bournemouth says...
8:17am Tue 24 Nov 09
ben111, Ringwood says...
8:26am Tue 24 Nov 09
TinyLegacy, Bournemouth says...
8:40am Tue 24 Nov 09
PHew, Bournemouth says...
9:01am Tue 24 Nov 09
TinyLegacy wrote:Cant promise when i will get there.....
Right, everyone round Nigel Hedges for breakfast then...
pd7, Dorset says...
9:05am Tue 24 Nov 09
The irate commuter, says...
9:15am Tue 24 Nov 09
pd7 wrote:Who woke the troll up ?
Lemmings !
grimreaper, Ensbury Park says...
9:16am Tue 24 Nov 09
dylan3201, poole says...
9:24am Tue 24 Nov 09
bob.rogers, Poole says...
9:28am Tue 24 Nov 09
pd7, Dorset says...
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pd7, Dorset says...
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mookie4a4, Ringwood says...
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cardomon, Bournemouth says...
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grumps999, Kinson says...
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Mickeypat, Bournemouth says...
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kunaya, Poole says...
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poole_god, says...
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B.F.G, Poole says...
10:51am Tue 24 Nov 09
ianbthomson, Bournemouth says...
11:08am Tue 24 Nov 09
Julie G, Christchurch says...
11:13am Tue 24 Nov 09
dissc, Ferndown says...
11:14am Tue 24 Nov 09
dartguru, Bournemouth says...
11:17am Tue 24 Nov 09
dissc, Ferndown says...
11:30am Tue 24 Nov 09
ianbthomson wrote:I agree but my word for them is, the word I used yesterday, MORONS!
I travel to Southampton from Bournemouth every day. Not only has the work on the Spur Road caused me major problems it also meant that my father-in-law had to leave his car at Bournemouth hospital and walk home yesterday after an appointment as he could not get out of the car park!!! These road "planners" have not got a clue and should be disciplined for there incompetence!! Rant Over. Up the Cherries:)
Lord Spring, says...
11:38am Tue 24 Nov 09
[Chris], WWW says...
11:48am Tue 24 Nov 09
richt, Bransgore says...
11:49am Tue 24 Nov 09
ben111, Ringwood says...
11:57am Tue 24 Nov 09
wrote:its good old Chris the man with the patronising answers to our problems
Beep Beep, Beep Beep, my car went Beep Beep Beep. Or should that read Bleat. This story has now been published for the past 3 or 4 days, and yet there are still many who have not taken heed of the problem, and still try to use the A338. Fair enough, use it, but stop moaning. The work has to be done now, as we have been told many times over. If it could not, it would have to be done some other time. . I have again used the A338 today, and found my journey compared to the other day, quicker, and the return even faster, subject to speed limits. . I however do laugh at those refusing to use Bournemouth. Do they seriously think that there are no road works going on anywhere else. Mistaken if you do.
pirates1057, Colehill says...
11:58am Tue 24 Nov 09
Friarscliff, Christchurch says...
12:01pm Tue 24 Nov 09
Nickolai, Bournemouth says...
12:14pm Tue 24 Nov 09
The irate commuter, says...
12:18pm Tue 24 Nov 09
doubletop, bournemouth says...
12:23pm Tue 24 Nov 09
dylan3201, poole says...
12:56pm Tue 24 Nov 09
golden mouldie, Bournemouth says...
1:16pm Tue 24 Nov 09
ben111, Ringwood says...
1:39pm Tue 24 Nov 09
pirates1057, Colehill says...
1:47pm Tue 24 Nov 09
Quintin, Christchurch says...
2:07pm Tue 24 Nov 09
ben111, Ringwood says...
2:11pm Tue 24 Nov 09
The irate commuter, says...
2:14pm Tue 24 Nov 09
yourbard, Westbourne says...
2:50pm Tue 24 Nov 09
dylan3201 wrote:Dylan,
on the plus side .. there was a rather attractive brunette in the car behind me today stuck in the traffic, so thankyou mr and mrs slowworm and have a merry xmas
dylan3201, poole says...
2:58pm Tue 24 Nov 09
yourbard wrote:should have asked her if she wanted a spot of breakfast !!
dylan3201 wrote: on the plus side .. there was a rather attractive brunette in the car behind me today stuck in the traffic, so thankyou mr and mrs slowworm and have a merry xmasDylan, I thought that too, but it was Nigel Hedges wife on her way to report her husband in the hope that she could get him sectioned.
[Chris], WWW says...
3:19pm Tue 24 Nov 09
The irate commuter wrote:The Irate Commuter; you have said in many times, but where as it got you, nowhere. You are still stuck in traffic day to day, yet you do nothing yourself to try and resolve the issue, but insist on others that they do.
Chris wrote 'This story has now been published for the past 3 or 4 days, and yet there are still many who have not taken heed of the problem, and still try to use the A338. Fair enough, use it, but stop moaning. The work has to be done now, as we have been told many times over. If it could not, it would have to be done some other time.'
How many times do I have to say it ??...the work does not have to be done during rush hour ! Place the bollards around the 20 yds that are being worked on between 9 & 5...ok it may take longer to complete the work but atleast thousands of us wont be disrupted every day.
flyingkipper, Poole says...
3:19pm Tue 24 Nov 09
EGHH, says...
3:28pm Tue 24 Nov 09
poole_god, says...
3:33pm Tue 24 Nov 09
wrote:Chritsypop
The irate commuter wrote: Chris wrote 'This story has now been published for the past 3 or 4 days, and yet there are still many who have not taken heed of the problem, and still try to use the A338. Fair enough, use it, but stop moaning. The work has to be done now, as we have been told many times over. If it could not, it would have to be done some other time.' How many times do I have to say it ??...the work does not have to be done during rush hour ! Place the bollards around the 20 yds that are being worked on between 9 & 5...ok it may take longer to complete the work but atleast thousands of us wont be disrupted every day.The Irate Commuter; you have said in many times, but where as it got you, nowhere. You are still stuck in traffic day to day, yet you do nothing yourself to try and resolve the issue, but insist on others that they do. . I am assuming that we all have some degree of intelligence, and do realise that this is the best time of year to capture such things as reptiles, as they are in hibernation, a deep sleep, and are much easier to catch, usually without any problems. To change this to the summer time as someone suggested would take much longer, and most reptiles will be breeding at this time. Ask any Herpetologist. . HSAW and no doubt EU legislation depicts the safety zone marked out by cones or bollards, so as to give full protection to those working with in. If you have worked on a highway or motorway, you will understand why when you are working with your back close to passing traffic who do not have a care for those doing the work. . You have all said that leaving earlier, or later will not make any difference, it still takes ages to get through, so what difference does it make of when they are laid out. I think you are thinking more of yourself, and not those who also have to use the road later in the day. . Unless the DCC can come up with some other idea, it looks like it is the A31 through Ferndown, or A35 through Christchurch, or a slow drive up and down the A338. . I have to go to Salisbury tomorrow, which way shall I go. Now now, please do not be rude. hahaha lol
ben111, Ringwood says...
3:39pm Tue 24 Nov 09
ben111, Ringwood says...
3:42pm Tue 24 Nov 09
WIGGINSv, Boscombe says...
4:19pm Tue 24 Nov 09
mookie4a4 wrote:I know! There was even a letter in today's Mail from some panjandrum giving us the benefit of his expertise (sic) regarding the matter.
How is this still news? Everyone in the county knows that the A338 is down to one lane now!
[Chris], WWW says...
4:22pm Tue 24 Nov 09
ben111 wrote:I am neither, and be assured if Bournemouth Council, or as in this case DCC upset me in anyway or form, I would let them know about it, and have done so on such matters as the IMAX, Surf Reef, Boscombe Spa Village, and many other matters. But when I see something like this, where there is no viable option, I grin and bare it, and in a roundabout way, I am saying for all to do the same. What can anyone do about it. If your late for work, as long as you have made the effort to get there, then so be it. If you have a boss who disagrees, then perhaps it is time to change. The reason I tend to disagree with some of the options that have been placed is because they really would not make any difference. What one is trying to illeviate, will only be pushed an hour or a mile further along. Today, the traffic flow seems to be moving somewhat faster, perhaps others are realising that it pays to find an alterenative route, leave earlier, or whatever.
Chris : are you a council member or work for them or something because everything you are coming up with seems to support them and as most people have pointed out that why not start this after rush hour even if the works take longer ,,, so why cant you see this as a viable idea to keep the town moving or even look at possible alternatives if you are not : are you then a counciler
charley farley west parley, bournemouth says...
4:34pm Tue 24 Nov 09
ben111, Ringwood says...
4:48pm Tue 24 Nov 09
Redgolfer, Bournemouth says...
5:22pm Tue 24 Nov 09
Frank Spencer, Bournemouth says...
5:25pm Tue 24 Nov 09
The irate commuter, says...
5:29pm Tue 24 Nov 09
GJB_1, Bournemouth says...
5:31pm Tue 24 Nov 09
yourbard, Westbourne says...
5:39pm Tue 24 Nov 09
Taffytim, Bournemouth says...
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fore15, Bournemouth says...
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bex1984, poole says...
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southbourne belle, Bournemouth says...
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psal, christchurch says...
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fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown says...
7:52pm Tue 24 Nov 09
charley farley west parley, bournemouth says...
9:01pm Tue 24 Nov 09
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:A classic. Number one. the reptiles will be in hibernation even though you may find it mild for the time of year. Two, how do you know it's disrupting the hospital . And three, people do have a choice about having to travel at peak times. Its their choice to live their lives so reliant on the car. Goodbye !
Chris,WWW - if you had an ounce of intelligence you would realise that it is not cold enough for the reptiles to be in hibernation. You would also realise that these jams are putting lives at risk as they are hindering the emergency services and disrupting the Hospital. Many thousands of people have no option other than to travel at peak times as they have to earn a living. - you may be lucky but others are not.
Avengerboy, Bournemouth says...
9:07pm Tue 24 Nov 09
dissc, Ferndown says...
9:39pm Tue 24 Nov 09
PokesdownMark, Bournemouth says...
9:50pm Tue 24 Nov 09
TigerTim, Poole says...
9:59pm Tue 24 Nov 09
Afcbpete, Bournemouth says...
10:08pm Tue 24 Nov 09
sheknitsnicely, Poole says...
10:12pm Tue 24 Nov 09
DorsetCountyCouncil, Dorchester says...
10:13pm Tue 24 Nov 09
dissc, Ferndown says...
10:39pm Tue 24 Nov 09
DorsetCountyCouncil wrote:Apparently the email to contact the council is this one: bournemouthspurroad@
The Spur Road lane restriction is moving to north of the Blackwater Junction this evening. Read the latest news release here:
http://www.dorsetfor
you.com/index.jsp?ar
ticleid=394260
To clarify, reptile relocation was carried out during the autumn without lane restrictions and stopped for the winter before the cones were put in place. The current lane closures are necessary for verge clearance work, which needs to happen to clear overgrown drainage ditches for maintenance next year.
This release should also help answer some of the questions relating to working at night and removing/replacing cones during the daytime.
We will keep updating our web pages with the latest information.
[Chris], WWW says...
11:17pm Tue 24 Nov 09
The irate commuter wrote:By doing something, I mean taking heed of what has been advised, not shouting the odds with every one. If there were other options would they not have been implemented by the Councils. Read their websites. It is obvious what has happened. No one has taken a blind notice of what was said in the way of alternative routes, hence we have gridlocks because people will not change. I understand and appreciate that some can only go one way, but others can illeviate the problem by taking other options, like the alternative routes, car sharing, alternative transport, etc.
Chris...there you go again - assuming you know everything about evrybody !! How do you know I am doing nothing ?? How do you know I haven't spoke to the Project mangers, spoke to the echo, spoke to the local MP ??
& do you actually read my posts ??
Read again !! No where do I say that these works are not necessary ?....no where do I say this is wrong time of year to do it ?..I will shout it for you..PLACE THE BOLLARDS AFTER 9AM & BRING IN BEFORE 5PM...less hassle for everyone.
Also if it's so dangerous to put them out earlier why if there no speed limit through the bollards ???
Surely o intellient one, you can understand that ?
payrollerkev, Lymington says...
11:21pm Tue 24 Nov 09
The_Flying_Trouser, Verwood says...
11:30pm Tue 24 Nov 09
fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown says...
8:12am Wed 25 Nov 09
mikydorun, horton says...
8:48am Wed 25 Nov 09
Square Old Codger, Bournemouth says...
11:25am Wed 25 Nov 09
dissc, Ferndown says...
7:40pm Wed 25 Nov 09
Square Old Codger wrote:You had better change months to years. Apparently they are going to be working on the A338 until 2019 according to the Echo's latest article. Oh well I will put a coffee maker in my car and a loo in the boot ;-) LOL
What are all the moaners going to do next year when the real work starts and the roadworks last months not days?
Cyberbia, Bournemouth says...
5:58pm Sun 29 Nov 09
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MandinVerwood, Verwood says...
8:06am Tue 24 Nov 09
You can't come in too early as it still gets tailed back and do you expect us to sit around for a few hours whilst feeding more money into the car parking.
I don't think I will be alone.