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A338 Spur Road brought to standstill in both directions


Even worse - that is the overwhelming response from motorists in Bournemouth after changes to the controversial A338 Spur Road works caused more chaos across the conurbation on Monday.

One angry driver said it took him one hour and 40 minutes to get from Boscombe to Wimborne and another spent 50 minutes travelling from Queens Park to Westbourne – a journey that should only take 15 minutes.

Yesterday morning marked the start of the surveying and environmental works moving from the southbound carriageway of the Spur Road to the northbound.

Dorset County Council chiefs decided to switch the works following concerns from businesses in Christchurch, Poole and Bournemouth that their timing couldn’t have come at a worse time of the year.

But not only did the works cause heavy tail backs as expected on the northbound carriageway, they also left traffic at a standstill on the southbound lanes from the Cooper Dean roundabout to St Pauls roundabout as motorists travelling northbound tried to leave the Wessex Way early.

Yesterday project leader David Diaz said: “We do appreciate the tailbacks that resulted this morning were worse than before.

“It is not acceptable we had problems on both carriageways and previously it was only on one. If it does continue over the next couple of days we will have to seriously look again.”

Many motorists were left fuming. One wrote: “So the road works start at Blackwater Junction with just a small section of road being worked on, yet the bollards start at Cooper Dean. And they wonder why the whole area is gridlocked this morning. Put the bollards out after rush hour. Surely that makes more sense than Bournemouth coming to a complete standstill, thousands of lost hours at work, CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere from stationary cars. These works are a complete joke.”

And another motorist said: “The management of the whole project is completely appalling.

“At least last week there was one moving carriageway – now they have two at a virtual standstill.

“The delays on the southbound side are just as bad as last week (15-20 minutes) despite the roadworks having moved side – it’s just they are now at the Bournemouth end rather than the Ringwood end.”

Nigel Hedges, president of Bournemouth’s Chamber of Trade and Commerce, said: “The chamber of trade regrets any problems encountered by people trying to get into work or to do shopping.”

He suggested people should change their travel patterns to avoid getting caught up in the delays.

“It is obvious that people are going to have to change their travel plans. Why not come in early and have breakfast in the town or look for alternative routes?”

Reports this morning suggest traffic had avoided the A338 into town, leaving the Wessex Way clearer than yesterday.

But some drivers were caught up in long jams in Boscombe and Southbourne as motorists tried to take the normally quieter back roads.

Let us know if you got caught up, and where, in the comments below.


Comments(81)

MandinVerwood says...
8:06am Tue 24 Nov 09

To Nigel Hedges - Yes we will change our plans - We won't be shopping in Bournemouth after all and instead go elsewhere!!

You can't come in too early as it still gets tailed back and do you expect us to sit around for a few hours whilst feeding more money into the car parking.
I don't think I will be alone.


PHew says...
8:11am Tue 24 Nov 09

Would you let the school know I have had to 'change my plans' and will be staggering the times I can get my child in between now and the end of the year???? Oh and while you are at it, explain to my family why we all have to get up and leave the house an hour earlier than usual and there will be no spare money cos its gone on 'breakfast' when we arrive too early....and write a note for work to explain that i will be arriving as and when i can (stressed etc) because i cannot predict the journey time???? Unbelievable!!!!!

bisadave says...
8:17am Tue 24 Nov 09

Can someone confirm whether any work will actually be carried out between Cooper Dean and Blackwater? The reason I ask is that it would surely make more sense to start the cones just before Blackwater with two lanes approaching the junction, separated by cones, with the left lane going to Christchurch and the airport, and the right lane to carry on up the Spur Road. This would ease the pressure on Cooper Dean significantly and move the queueing traffic forward by about half a mile. It would also allow traffic wanting to leave at Blackwater to avoid having to queue with the traffic heading north, reducing the amount of traffic queueing unnecessarily. Even if work is planned between the two junctions, surely this could be dealt with in a couple of days and the rest of the time a sensible plan adopted that didn't gridlock the whole of Bournemouth. Happy to draw this on the back of an envelope if Mr Diaz would like to get in touch

ben111 says...
8:26am Tue 24 Nov 09

I think Nigel Hedges and co should pick a point past the road works and leave at any time past 7.15 to get their just so he can at least see the reality of it all , and i love the fact they said look for alternative routes , we didnt think of that one ,,, come on ,, and all the good ideas of cones out after rush hour or god forbid the idea of possibly working partly into the night will all fall on DEAF EARS im afraid .

TinyLegacy says...
8:40am Tue 24 Nov 09

Right, everyone round Nigel Hedges for breakfast then...


PHew says...
9:01am Tue 24 Nov 09

TinyLegacy wrote:
Right, everyone round Nigel Hedges for breakfast then...

Cant promise when i will get there.....

pd7 says...
9:05am Tue 24 Nov 09

Lemmings !

The irate commuter says...
9:15am Tue 24 Nov 09

pd7 wrote:
Lemmings !
Who woke the troll up ?

grimreaper says...
9:16am Tue 24 Nov 09

Yesterday project leader David Diaz said: “We do appreciate the tailbacks that resulted this morning were worse than before.

“It is not acceptable we had problems on both carriageways and previously it was only on one. If it does continue over the next couple of days we will have to seriously look again.”
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"Seriously look again" ?
It won't go away Mr Diaz !
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What did you think would happen when you reduce the capacity of the main arterial route in and out of Bournemouth by 50% ?



dylan3201 says...
9:24am Tue 24 Nov 09

actually found it ok this morn - left 20mins early from ashley cross and arrived in ringwood on time at 9. happy days .

bob.rogers says...
9:28am Tue 24 Nov 09

I just don't understand it! One lane is closed north bound from the Cooper Dene Roundabout onwards. Yet there is nothing happening until after the Blackwater Junction! Why? Surely all this does is cause chaos at the Cooper Dene junction when the lane closure could start at the Blackwater Junction! I cannot understand why a lane is closed for a mile when nothing is happening! And this is only the preliminary work before the main works start!! God help us!!!!!!!! I really do wonder at the sanity of the people who authorised this. Obviously they do not travel on this route!!!!

pd7 says...
9:30am Tue 24 Nov 09

Quote "It is obvious that people are going to have to change their travel plans. Why not come in early and have breakfast in the town or look for alternative routes?”

Because the people who cook breakast decide to come in later.

Its is at most 10 miles of dual cway anywhere else they would just surface it and go home . UK not possible .


pd7 says...
9:33am Tue 24 Nov 09

I really think it is so funny , this time last year it was Lapland causing chaos . Now its cones . Its just one disaster to the next .

Pehaps the same people have a hand in both :-)

Dear Santa can we have a nice big motorway please ......

mookie4a4 says...
9:35am Tue 24 Nov 09

How is this still news?
Everyone in the county knows that the A338 is down to one lane now!

cardomon says...
9:37am Tue 24 Nov 09

Bournemouth really is a disaster.
People should avoid it like the plague. If you can do your Christmas shopping anywhere but here.
Hopefully that will bring some pressure on the powers that be.

grumps999 says...
9:48am Tue 24 Nov 09

"He suggested people should change their travel patterns to avoid getting caught up in the delays. "

Yes they have Its congested EVERYWHER!!!!!

Mickeypat says...
10:09am Tue 24 Nov 09

INSANE...The planners have clearly lost all of their remaining marbles! Boscombe and the whole area is awash with temporary traffic lights, Ashley Road a main aterial road conencting South-North Bournemouth is closed leaving the traffic to go nowhere. At the same time some raving loonatic in the traffic planning dept decides it would be a great idea to half the lanes on the spur road. Please tell me that these idiots are subject to a performance related pay award. If this is the case I will fully expect to see that the entire dept has had their pay halved.

And to the other raving loon from the Chamber of Commerce can I please say; Do you or have you ever had children or any other form of household responsibility? If so your comments should never have got as far as they did. 'Come in early for breakfast'!!!! You sir belong on the traffic planning committee....

kunaya says...
10:29am Tue 24 Nov 09

This is the worst traffic jam ive ever seen.yesterday , it took me 40 minutes to come out from bournemouth hospital to reach cooperdean roundabout!I'm a community worker and my patients are the one suffering due to me being late!I cant go the back roads as everywhere is clogged.i shudder to think this is all because the nature reserve in the road!!!its not worth it!!my patients dont deserve this!!

poole_god says...
10:45am Tue 24 Nov 09

Mr Echo

how about putting a picture with the store that is relevant
1> This is a picture of last weeks queues towards ashley heath
2> I cannot see queues in both directions, perhaps you could find one that does so we could see it for ourselves

B.F.G says...
10:51am Tue 24 Nov 09

Did anybody come in southbound today at 9ish? what was it like?

Security word 'hike-miss' the irony.

ianbthomson says...
11:08am Tue 24 Nov 09

I travel to Southampton from Bournemouth every day. Not only has the work on the Spur Road caused me major problems it also meant that my father-in-law had to leave his car at Bournemouth hospital and walk home yesterday after an appointment as he could not get out of the car park!!! These road "planners" have not got a clue and should be disciplined for there incompetence!! Rant Over. Up the Cherries:)

Julie G says...
11:13am Tue 24 Nov 09

The "powers that be" dont seem to realise the knock on effect this has for those who travel via other routes already. Anyone living in Christchurch trying to travel too and from Bournemouth is scuppered no matter which route you take. A twenty five minute journey is now taking an hour because all the traffic that is avoiding the Wessex Way, Ashley Road, is coming through the only other available route. Oh yes, and then we have temporary traffic lights installed at Boscombe Crescent which renders all the work done along by Knyveton Gardens useless - also Highways need to re-install the chevron that used to be at the traffice lights at Manor/Knyveton Road. Traffic along Christchurch Road is now queuing across the lights so people are unable to cross from the side roads !!!! Its all madness!!!! Security word - "road-seek".....INDE
ED!!!

dissc says...
11:14am Tue 24 Nov 09

I am not spending a penny in Bournemouth for christmas this year. I only live in Ferndown less than 5 miles away. I am going to Southampton where the roads, though not perfect, at least work! Where parking is free and near the shops. Tough luck Bournemouth you blew it!!! Same goes for Poole. Christchurch is a waste of shopping space andy time of year.

dartguru says...
11:17am Tue 24 Nov 09

Nigel Hedges comments are:-

patronising
pointless
claptrap

They haven't got a clue.

Thinking laterally, they should have killed two birds with one stone and dished out the traffic survey leaflets whilst people queued, although they'd probably have needed bodyguards.

Security words: shot-area, well it's close to what I was thinking at least.


dissc says...
11:30am Tue 24 Nov 09

ianbthomson wrote:
I travel to Southampton from Bournemouth every day. Not only has the work on the Spur Road caused me major problems it also meant that my father-in-law had to leave his car at Bournemouth hospital and walk home yesterday after an appointment as he could not get out of the car park!!! These road "planners" have not got a clue and should be disciplined for there incompetence!! Rant Over. Up the Cherries:)
I agree but my word for them is, the word I used yesterday, MORONS!
The hospital should have its own junction off the A338 and the Airport should have one as well. Cooperdean is overloaded with far too much traffic all converging on one big mess of a junction. Its a roundabout with traffic signals, filter lanes and yellow boxes leading to a multilane road that eventually becomes a cart track! Who ever thought that was a good idea! No wonder visitors freak out when they have to negotiate it.
The only word for the councils and the planners involved is MORONS!
As a voter in Dorset I will vote for any part that has plans to fix out dreadful roads. So councillors, take note, the longer it goes on the more it becomes an election issue.

Lord Spring says...
11:38am Tue 24 Nov 09

Walked around Springbourne Roundabout this morning at 9 oclock very little traffic either way on A338 at that point.

[Chris] says...
11:48am Tue 24 Nov 09

Beep Beep, Beep Beep, my car went Beep Beep Beep. Or should that read Bleat. This story has now been published for the past 3 or 4 days, and yet there are still many who have not taken heed of the problem, and still try to use the A338. Fair enough, use it, but stop moaning. The work has to be done now, as we have been told many times over. If it could not, it would have to be done some other time.
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I have again used the A338 today, and found my journey compared to the other day, quicker, and the return even faster, subject to speed limits.
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I however do laugh at those refusing to use Bournemouth. Do they seriously think that there are no road works going on anywhere else. Mistaken if you do.

richt says...
11:49am Tue 24 Nov 09

Perhaps the worms are a cover story and this is just a big conspiracy to try and stop people driving to and from Bournemouth, forcing them to use public transport instead?
Let's hope they follow this up with 'phase 2' - a decent public transport service to Bournemouth for those of us who don't live in Christchurch or Poole!

ben111 says...
11:57am Tue 24 Nov 09

wrote:
Beep Beep, Beep Beep, my car went Beep Beep Beep. Or should that read Bleat. This story has now been published for the past 3 or 4 days, and yet there are still many who have not taken heed of the problem, and still try to use the A338. Fair enough, use it, but stop moaning. The work has to be done now, as we have been told many times over. If it could not, it would have to be done some other time. . I have again used the A338 today, and found my journey compared to the other day, quicker, and the return even faster, subject to speed limits. . I however do laugh at those refusing to use Bournemouth. Do they seriously think that there are no road works going on anywhere else. Mistaken if you do.
its good old Chris the man with the patronising answers to our problems

pirates1057 says...
11:58am Tue 24 Nov 09

Surely the emergency services must have an opinion on the roadworks. It is clear that the current alternative routes do not work so the works should be suspended until a workable solution can be found.
The quality of driving on the alternative routes is appalling with junctions blocked by inconsiderate motorists trying to fit a car into a gap big enough for a cyclist. Road rage will follow.

At present the level of harmful gas pumped from the cars and buses will probably kill the wildlife that is being protected.

One other thought, when the carriageway work takes place next autumn will the vegetation that is being cleared have grown again? If so why bother.

Work 24/7 and get the job done. There is no other solution. Suspend the work and see the road do its proper job of getting people to and from work.

Friarscliff says...
12:01pm Tue 24 Nov 09


Having read all of these comments, I am disappointed that so far we have not had the normal response from Dorset County Council :- 'We regret any inconvenience and lessons will be learned for the future!'
Really though, it's rather like being in the EU - faceless bureaucrats in Dorchester taking ill thought-out decisions with little regard to the effect upon ordinary people and our elected county councillors apparently unwilling or unable to influence things.

Nickolai says...
12:14pm Tue 24 Nov 09

Why don't you hop on the train at Bournemouth and use this to travel to Ringwood, Wimborne, West Moors, Verwood etc ?
Oh that's right, you can't - thanks to the self-serving and corrupt public transport/road planning decisions of forty years ago which have created this shocking mess !

The irate commuter says...
12:18pm Tue 24 Nov 09

Chris wrote 'This story has now been published for the past 3 or 4 days, and yet there are still many who have not taken heed of the problem, and still try to use the A338. Fair enough, use it, but stop moaning. The work has to be done now, as we have been told many times over. If it could not, it would have to be done some other time.'

How many times do I have to say it ??...the work does not have to be done during rush hour ! Place the bollards around the 20 yds that are being worked on between 9 & 5...ok it may take longer to complete the work but atleast thousands of us wont be disrupted every day.

doubletop says...
12:23pm Tue 24 Nov 09

I wish everybody would not write so loud, you will be waking the worms and lizards up, sssssssssssshhhhhhhh
hhhhsssssssssshhhhhh
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

dylan3201 says...
12:56pm Tue 24 Nov 09

on the plus side .. there was a rather attractive brunette in the car behind me today stuck in the traffic, so thankyou mr and mrs slowworm and have a merry xmas

golden mouldie says...
1:16pm Tue 24 Nov 09

Dave, you are being much too sensible. You'll never get to such a high position as Mr Diaz with suggestions like that.

ben111 says...
1:39pm Tue 24 Nov 09

im going to set up a tea and coffee wagon next to the queues ,,, what do you think ,, oohh cup of tea and a wagon wheel

pirates1057 says...
1:47pm Tue 24 Nov 09

In the summer pepole take their holidays and there is less rush hour traffic. The days are longer but more people travel during the quieter part of the day.

Perhaps the work could be done during the longer hours of daylight as it is light between 4.30 am and 10.00 pm in June and July.

But no, the wildlife would be active.

Do they pay rates, vehicle excise duty, tax and fuel duty? Thought not.

Quintin says...
2:07pm Tue 24 Nov 09

This is quite ridiculous. This can only happen in England.

ben111 says...
2:11pm Tue 24 Nov 09

we are always informed that missed apointments at hospitals cost the NHS tens of thousands a year , and i do feel their might be situation that an ambulance might not get to the hospital on time because of the jams ,, what then ???

The irate commuter says...
2:14pm Tue 24 Nov 09

you die !!!

But at least the lizards survive...hallelujah
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yourbard says...
2:50pm Tue 24 Nov 09

dylan3201 wrote:
on the plus side .. there was a rather attractive brunette in the car behind me today stuck in the traffic, so thankyou mr and mrs slowworm and have a merry xmas
Dylan,
I thought that too, but it was Nigel Hedges wife on her way to report her husband in the hope that she could get him sectioned.

dylan3201 says...
2:58pm Tue 24 Nov 09

yourbard wrote:
dylan3201 wrote: on the plus side .. there was a rather attractive brunette in the car behind me today stuck in the traffic, so thankyou mr and mrs slowworm and have a merry xmas
Dylan, I thought that too, but it was Nigel Hedges wife on her way to report her husband in the hope that she could get him sectioned.
should have asked her if she wanted a spot of breakfast !!

[Chris] says...
3:19pm Tue 24 Nov 09

The irate commuter wrote:
Chris wrote 'This story has now been published for the past 3 or 4 days, and yet there are still many who have not taken heed of the problem, and still try to use the A338. Fair enough, use it, but stop moaning. The work has to be done now, as we have been told many times over. If it could not, it would have to be done some other time.'

How many times do I have to say it ??...the work does not have to be done during rush hour ! Place the bollards around the 20 yds that are being worked on between 9 & 5...ok it may take longer to complete the work but atleast thousands of us wont be disrupted every day.
The Irate Commuter; you have said in many times, but where as it got you, nowhere. You are still stuck in traffic day to day, yet you do nothing yourself to try and resolve the issue, but insist on others that they do.
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I am assuming that we all have some degree of intelligence, and do realise that this is the best time of year to capture such things as reptiles, as they are in hibernation, a deep sleep, and are much easier to catch, usually without any problems. To change this to the summer time as someone suggested would take much longer, and most reptiles will be breeding at this time. Ask any Herpetologist.
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HSAW and no doubt EU legislation depicts the safety zone marked out by cones or bollards, so as to give full protection to those working with in. If you have worked on a highway or motorway, you will understand why when you are working with your back close to passing traffic who do not have a care for those doing the work.
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You have all said that leaving earlier, or later will not make any difference, it still takes ages to get through, so what difference does it make of when they are laid out. I think you are thinking more of yourself, and not those who also have to use the road later in the day.
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Unless the DCC can come up with some other idea, it looks like it is the A31 through Ferndown, or A35 through Christchurch, or a slow drive up and down the A338.
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I have to go to Salisbury tomorrow, which way shall I go. Now now, please do not be rude. hahaha lol

flyingkipper says...
3:19pm Tue 24 Nov 09

Jeremy Clarkson is 100% right when he says 'closing a road should be a last resort' and 'getting it re-opened should be a priority.'
Take a drive anywhere in the conurbation and you'll find umpteen sets of roadworks and temporary traffic lights all with one thing in common..............
.nobody actually doing any work!!!!!!!!
And by the way.......if these lizards and slow-worms are too stupid to get out of the way of a 'bloody great jcb' they deserve to become extinct!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!

EGHH says...
3:28pm Tue 24 Nov 09

I'll tell my customers that I can't deliver their customers orders due to worms being moved. Will the council reimburse my lost trade. Don't be silly. What a ruddy joke.

I do not know why people try to run a business in this town when the council seem to do everything to prevent it!

poole_god says...
3:33pm Tue 24 Nov 09

wrote:
The irate commuter wrote: Chris wrote 'This story has now been published for the past 3 or 4 days, and yet there are still many who have not taken heed of the problem, and still try to use the A338. Fair enough, use it, but stop moaning. The work has to be done now, as we have been told many times over. If it could not, it would have to be done some other time.' How many times do I have to say it ??...the work does not have to be done during rush hour ! Place the bollards around the 20 yds that are being worked on between 9 & 5...ok it may take longer to complete the work but atleast thousands of us wont be disrupted every day.
The Irate Commuter; you have said in many times, but where as it got you, nowhere. You are still stuck in traffic day to day, yet you do nothing yourself to try and resolve the issue, but insist on others that they do. . I am assuming that we all have some degree of intelligence, and do realise that this is the best time of year to capture such things as reptiles, as they are in hibernation, a deep sleep, and are much easier to catch, usually without any problems. To change this to the summer time as someone suggested would take much longer, and most reptiles will be breeding at this time. Ask any Herpetologist. . HSAW and no doubt EU legislation depicts the safety zone marked out by cones or bollards, so as to give full protection to those working with in. If you have worked on a highway or motorway, you will understand why when you are working with your back close to passing traffic who do not have a care for those doing the work. . You have all said that leaving earlier, or later will not make any difference, it still takes ages to get through, so what difference does it make of when they are laid out. I think you are thinking more of yourself, and not those who also have to use the road later in the day. . Unless the DCC can come up with some other idea, it looks like it is the A31 through Ferndown, or A35 through Christchurch, or a slow drive up and down the A338. . I have to go to Salisbury tomorrow, which way shall I go. Now now, please do not be rude. hahaha lol
Chritsypop

I know you are always right but it is a shame you cannot see things from others point of view rather than your own somewhat blinkered one.

ben111 says...
3:39pm Tue 24 Nov 09

Chris : are you a council member or work for them or something because everything you are coming up with seems to support them and as most people have pointed out that why not start this after rush hour even if the works take longer ,,, so why cant you see this as a viable idea to keep the town moving or even look at possible alternatives if you are not : are you then a counciler

ben111 says...
3:42pm Tue 24 Nov 09

Sorry spelling mistake :: CHRIS has got to be Councillor

WIGGINSv says...
4:19pm Tue 24 Nov 09

mookie4a4 wrote:
How is this still news? Everyone in the county knows that the A338 is down to one lane now!
I know! There was even a letter in today's Mail from some panjandrum giving us the benefit of his expertise (sic) regarding the matter.
There will probably be questions tabled to the PM tomorrow.
Boscombe was gridlocked this morning, and also we now have gas pipes going in on St Stephen's Road, with traffic lights and one lane traffic. Happy days.

[Chris] says...
4:22pm Tue 24 Nov 09

ben111 wrote:
Chris : are you a council member or work for them or something because everything you are coming up with seems to support them and as most people have pointed out that why not start this after rush hour even if the works take longer ,,, so why cant you see this as a viable idea to keep the town moving or even look at possible alternatives if you are not : are you then a counciler
I am neither, and be assured if Bournemouth Council, or as in this case DCC upset me in anyway or form, I would let them know about it, and have done so on such matters as the IMAX, Surf Reef, Boscombe Spa Village, and many other matters. But when I see something like this, where there is no viable option, I grin and bare it, and in a roundabout way, I am saying for all to do the same. What can anyone do about it. If your late for work, as long as you have made the effort to get there, then so be it. If you have a boss who disagrees, then perhaps it is time to change. The reason I tend to disagree with some of the options that have been placed is because they really would not make any difference. What one is trying to illeviate, will only be pushed an hour or a mile further along. Today, the traffic flow seems to be moving somewhat faster, perhaps others are realising that it pays to find an alterenative route, leave earlier, or whatever.
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Poole_god; Sorry mate, not blinkered at all. Just stating the obvious. If after 3 or 4 days there has been no change, then it is unlikely there will be any change. So why not let it continue as it is. Options have been given, so use them, or go slow. Simple really.

charley farley west parley says...
4:34pm Tue 24 Nov 09

This is so funny. Traffic chaos. It's the story that never ends. We love a good moan so you lot must be in your element. Keep the comments coming, some of us are having a right good chuckle at them !!! Don't forget to stamp your feet and cry ''It's so unfair'' really loudly, that should sort it. Laters

ben111 says...
4:48pm Tue 24 Nov 09

it is all good fun : and later i am going to use my flying Delorian and go back to to 1985

Redgolfer says...
5:22pm Tue 24 Nov 09

Which IDIOT thought up the scheme of only having one lane open from the Cooper Dean Roundabout up to Blackwater Bridge, if it was coned off after the junction of Blackwater, it would allow traffic to filter left to the airport or to Christchurch instead of clogging through traffic to Ashley Heath Roundabout.

Frank Spencer says...
5:25pm Tue 24 Nov 09

The problem here is often that the lazy workers can't be bothered to take in the cones when they are not around. Time for penalty payments of the lazy workers me thinks. Whoever at DCC set this up in such a slap dash manner should be down the job centre by now. Do it one side at a time with 24/7 working ~ simple really.

The irate commuter says...
5:29pm Tue 24 Nov 09

Chris...there you go again - assuming you know everything about evrybody !! How do you know I am doing nothing ?? How do you know I haven't spoke to the Project mangers, spoke to the echo, spoke to the local MP ??

& do you actually read my posts ??

Read again !! No where do I say that these works are not necessary ?....no where do I say this is wrong time of year to do it ?..I will shout it for you..PLACE THE BOLLARDS AFTER 9AM & BRING IN BEFORE 5PM...less hassle for everyone.

Also if it's so dangerous to put them out earlier why if there no speed limit through the bollards ???

Surely o intellient one, you can understand that ?

GJB_1 says...
5:31pm Tue 24 Nov 09

I love how the Echo thinks this is news worthy.

Traffic jams!!!

Oh no. Take another route into the town and stop complaining. It's clear these people can't organise a p155 up in a brewery so just work around them. Welcome to the real world.

yourbard says...
5:39pm Tue 24 Nov 09

Chris WWW,
I'm not sure what the W's are for, but I could guess.
I took your advice and consulted a Herpetologist and she said my herpes have completely gone.
What you and your band of defenders of the indefensible are not telling us, although I may have missed something in your essays, is the effect the removal of a vast number of trees along that stretch of roadside is having on the habitat of other wildlife there.
We do seem to have an odd approach to animals in this country. On the one hand we seem happy to obliterate wildlife in Iraq and Afghanistan, all in our name apparently, although I specifically asked not to be included, while on the other hand we bring parts of our own country to a standstill in the name of the EU.

Taffytim says...
5:58pm Tue 24 Nov 09

There are vehicles out there that can automatically lay and retrieve bollards, so in my eyes any excuse of why they cant put them out at 9am and bring them in at 4pm is unjustified.

Today a drove from the Lansdowne to Ferndown via Whiteleg Way ( well I actually missed this and went down the offshoot of Wimborne Road ) and it took me 45mins!! This is not acceptable.

I too am a fan of the echo and I believe this story i fully news worthy.

fore15 says...
6:01pm Tue 24 Nov 09

I drive for a living, but thank god I've been off the last 2 days unwell. My poor wife works at B'mouth General as a clinical leader in charge of 1 of the wards there (so farely important she is there on time), it took her 1 hour to get there this morning, it usually takes 15 mins, and I have just spoken to her now (17.50 Tues.) she left her ward at 15.45 she is currently still on the grounds of the hospital having moved 400 yards in just over 2 hours, you can imagine what she thinks of these ridiculous......... I was going to call them roadworks but there not, there only cutting down trees and bushes so the lizards wont be harmed when they come to do the actual roadworks next year!!!!!!!!!.yes we're going to have to put up with this disruption again next year,oh woopee I look forward to that, I dont think.

bex1984 says...
6:15pm Tue 24 Nov 09

I do a 2mile journey to work using back roads so it takes me normally about ten mins!..yes i could walk but need my car for my job and it took BUT it took me 25 minutes as i was stuck on richmond park road for 20 minutes it wasnt moving and all i needed to do was go just a bit further down the road to where i work!! how frustrating.
waste of petrol which annoys me the most

southbourne belle says...
6:54pm Tue 24 Nov 09

The situation was indeed chaotic on Monday -south bourne and boscombe were grid locked at 9am-it was impossible to get out from Boscombe Overcliffe Drive onto the Christchurch Road. The new traffic lights at the junction of Boscombe Spa Road and Christchurch Road compounded the problem. It was also impossible to return at 4.30pm-It took me 40mins to undertake a 10min journey.

psal says...
7:12pm Tue 24 Nov 09

It took 27 mins to move from one set of traffic lights to the next set outside Castlepoint this evening. Crazy. On a far more important note I have heard that the emergency ambulances have been unable to get out of Bournemouth hospital tonight. Who is going to be held accountable if someone dies from a heart attack or another serious condition due to the delay in receiving treatment? Lives are actually now being put at risk due to this ridiculous situation. Every feader road off and on to the wessex way is gridlocked, causing the whole town to come to a standstill. Leave the **** worms alone, they will find their own way out of there.

fedupwithjobsworths says...
7:52pm Tue 24 Nov 09

Chris,WWW - if you had an ounce of intelligence you would realise that it is not cold enough for the reptiles to be in hibernation. You would also realise that these jams are putting lives at risk as they are hindering the emergency services and disrupting the Hospital. Many thousands of people have no option other than to travel at peak times as they have to earn a living. - you may be lucky but others are not.

charley farley west parley says...
9:01pm Tue 24 Nov 09

fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
Chris,WWW - if you had an ounce of intelligence you would realise that it is not cold enough for the reptiles to be in hibernation. You would also realise that these jams are putting lives at risk as they are hindering the emergency services and disrupting the Hospital. Many thousands of people have no option other than to travel at peak times as they have to earn a living. - you may be lucky but others are not.
A classic. Number one. the reptiles will be in hibernation even though you may find it mild for the time of year. Two, how do you know it's disrupting the hospital . And three, people do have a choice about having to travel at peak times. Its their choice to live their lives so reliant on the car. Goodbye !

Avengerboy says...
9:07pm Tue 24 Nov 09

It was OK on me push bike!

dissc says...
9:39pm Tue 24 Nov 09

There seems to be an issue with lizards? Well it's just a distraction from the real issue. The inability of councils to organise these necessary roadworks efficently. Of course it will have knock on effects and yes we do find ways around the problem. However, the lack of end to end planning means we have roadworks on other major routes at the same time. We have thoughtless blocking off of parts of the road not actively being worked on and colatetal effects on Bournemouth Hospital. My girlfriend is a nurse at Bournemouth hospital. She took two and a half hours to get home last night for a journey that normally takes 15 mins. There is no alternative route for her. Today it took less time one and a half hours to get to work. She left her car at work and walked home tonight. Took an hour and it had given her bad knee a rough time. So now she can't go to work tomorrow!
People who are linear thinkers, drafts players never get the point. Things work like chess in real life, they are interconnected!! Any fool should see that. So, we are not bleating about being stuck in a jam on the A338! The road network (network should be clue here) is interconnected. Causing a block on one road causes a cascade of problems on a local road system already at or near capacity. That's just the start, it impinges on other services, buses, ambulances, paramedics, schools, ... This is not a isolated gripe about the A338 it's about how poor local planing is carried out (or not in this case). I have lived and driven in other countries where these issues are taken into account and solved. We are not the worst by a long way. Bangkok has a really bad traffic problem and India is chaos but the traffic does at least move.
We are all responsible for getting this situation put right. Use your voted make your comments to the media. If, as some people suggest, we keep quite and put up with it then things will never change. So, to quote Douglas Adams, "keep banging those rocks together!". Meanwhile the rest of the world will be making progress with systems that actually work with enough redundacy to cope with a bit of resurfacing work!

PokesdownMark says...
9:50pm Tue 24 Nov 09

Yeah the new traffic lights at Boscombe Spa Road makes things considerably worse. Cars sit there at a red light when there is nothing coming down the hill from Boscombe direction. Queue then extends back to the main traffic lights which get jammed up completely. What kind of madness is this?

TigerTim says...
9:59pm Tue 24 Nov 09

I live in Poole and work in Ringwood. I usually go to work via Ferndown and come home via the Spur Road/Wessex Way. Ferndown is a nightmare at the moment because a set of traffic lights are out, meaning temporary lights. The temporary lights timing for each side is utterly useless - far to long in between which is causing queues. Yesterday it took me half an hour to drive from the Angel Pub to the cross roads where the traffic lights are - normally a 5 minute drive. Travelling home is marginally better at the moment because the road works are on the north bound carriage way but I am dreading next year when the major works start as the current situation is bad enough. At the moment I'm getting up earlier and leaving home earlier to try and beat the queues - well at least a bit! My husband works in Christchurch and is finding the drive to and from work just as bad as I am to Ringwood.

Afcbpete says...
10:08pm Tue 24 Nov 09

This is typical of this town. As for a suggestion of a motorway, this is Dorset for goodness sakes, one of the only counties not to have one, and unlikely to ever have one. They prefer us to sit in queues pumping out fumes.... So creating chaos for the sake of some reptiles is simply a MUST. Makes total sense, well atleast to those at the town hall!!!!

sheknitsnicely says...
10:12pm Tue 24 Nov 09

I don't think we're all being outlandish here. It really IS having a knock on effect on everything around! On the first day, coming to RBH from Poole I thought, "phew! Glad the works start after the RBH exit!". Hmm. Tonight I left work at 4 as usual and was still sitting in my car, about a FOOT from my parking space at 5! I then gave up and got a complex series of buses home (eventually!) and heard people had barely moved at 6! It's madness, but I don't know who to blame.

Blame the Council for the roadworks?

Blame the hospital parking geezers for not regulating the traffic as no-one from the patient car park would let the staff out?

Blame the other idiots on the road who were all getting angry at each other?

I'm just glad it's only going on for a week. OH WAIT! In September 2010 both sides will go down to one lane and it's going on for months. HOORAY! :D

Please someone, think of something by then!!!

DorsetCountyCouncil says...
10:13pm Tue 24 Nov 09

The Spur Road lane restriction is moving to north of the Blackwater Junction this evening. Read the latest news release here:

http://www.dorsetfor
you.com/index.jsp?ar
ticleid=394260

To clarify, reptile relocation was carried out during the autumn without lane restrictions and stopped for the winter before the cones were put in place. The current lane closures are necessary for verge clearance work, which needs to happen to clear overgrown drainage ditches for maintenance next year.

This release should also help answer some of the questions relating to working at night and removing/replacing cones during the daytime.

We will keep updating our web pages with the latest information.

dissc says...
10:39pm Tue 24 Nov 09

DorsetCountyCouncil wrote:
The Spur Road lane restriction is moving to north of the Blackwater Junction this evening. Read the latest news release here:

http://www.dorsetfor

you.com/index.jsp?ar

ticleid=394260

To clarify, reptile relocation was carried out during the autumn without lane restrictions and stopped for the winter before the cones were put in place. The current lane closures are necessary for verge clearance work, which needs to happen to clear overgrown drainage ditches for maintenance next year.

This release should also help answer some of the questions relating to working at night and removing/replacing cones during the daytime.

We will keep updating our web pages with the latest information.
Apparently the email to contact the council is this one: bournemouthspurroad@
dorsetcc.gov.uk

I suggest we use it to make our views known to the council.
I have already sent one asking if they planned this with all the other agencies who create roadworks in this area and if they took onto account other work being carried out that would cause gridlock conditions?

[Chris] says...
11:17pm Tue 24 Nov 09

The irate commuter wrote:
Chris...there you go again - assuming you know everything about evrybody !! How do you know I am doing nothing ?? How do you know I haven't spoke to the Project mangers, spoke to the echo, spoke to the local MP ??

& do you actually read my posts ??

Read again !! No where do I say that these works are not necessary ?....no where do I say this is wrong time of year to do it ?..I will shout it for you..PLACE THE BOLLARDS AFTER 9AM & BRING IN BEFORE 5PM...less hassle for everyone.

Also if it's so dangerous to put them out earlier why if there no speed limit through the bollards ???

Surely o intellient one, you can understand that ?
By doing something, I mean taking heed of what has been advised, not shouting the odds with every one. If there were other options would they not have been implemented by the Councils. Read their websites. It is obvious what has happened. No one has taken a blind notice of what was said in the way of alternative routes, hence we have gridlocks because people will not change. I understand and appreciate that some can only go one way, but others can illeviate the problem by taking other options, like the alternative routes, car sharing, alternative transport, etc.
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I do not like traffic jams, necessary or not, but I do know when there is nothing anyone can do about it. But I would rather take an alternative route as I have mentioned, taking longer, than sitting for the same time in a traffic jam. This is what makes me laugh. People will sit in a jam for hours, but refuse to go another way adding on an hour or so or even less to their journey..
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Like yourself, and everyone else, I am entitled to my opinion. You continually talk about the 9am and 5pm cone shift, therefore why can I not talk about the unecessary whinging and moaning about something that cannot be changed.
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I am sorry if it annoys you, but that is life on a debating forum.
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fedupwithjobsworth: I am right you are wrong, they hibernate regardless, read up on it. Not that I have mentioned anything about the hospitals or emergency services, I have not seen or heard any indication of complaint from them as yet. This evening whilst out, I have seen ambulances parked up at two different locations, both miles from the hospital and depot, waiting for calls.
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Soon be finished I suppose.

payrollerkev says...
11:21pm Tue 24 Nov 09

Just what do the council think they are doing causing all this mahem in peak travel time? I left Bournemouth Hospital Car Park today at 3.30pm and it took 1hour 40 minutes just to get to Tesco (normally takes 5 mins max). Why can they not do the work at night? I realise they are using cutting equipment but surely they can put their hands on some decent lights. I am also concerned at how many patients miss their appointments.

The_Flying_Trouser says...
11:30pm Tue 24 Nov 09

There seems to be a case here of "Damned if you do, damned if you don't"
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The work planned for next year is, I'm sure, necessary. If the council had left all this clear up until then, thus extending the length of time those works would take, then people would be saying "Why didn't you stagger the operation"
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On the other hand, people are saying "Why don't they just do the whole thing in one hit".
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Then again, if they don't do the work at all and just do the drainage work without a care for the sloworms, reptiles etc, then animal rights campaigners and environmentalists will be up in arms and you will have more trouble on your hands. Remember Twyford Down?
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The point is well made, though, as to why they don't put the cones out after 9:00 and pull them back at 4:00.
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Better than all that, though, do the work at night.
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Have you seen the floodlights they can use? Man, it's practically daylight under those things.
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Bottom line here is that the technology exists but the common sense to use it does not.

fedupwithjobsworths says...
8:12am Wed 25 Nov 09

Chis,WWW - I am right and you are wrong, I don't need to read up about hibernation I use my eyes, the lizards are still up and about - perhaps you should tell the lizards to read up on the subject as they have obviously got it wrong. Good to see that us moaners have managed to get the cones removed from the Cooper Dean to the Blackwater Junction - why were they here in the first place there are not even any lizards along this stretch!

mikydorun says...
8:48am Wed 25 Nov 09

When will the council realise they are putting patients' lives at risk - idiots are turning left into the hospital to jump the queue turning right into Littledown - this just blocks the bus and ambulance lane. The trust mgt met with the County Council before the works started but it would appear their concerns were either ignored or not taken seriously. getting out of the hospital last night took almost 2.5 hours !!!! Let's hope the County Council's families dont fall ill and need urgent access to A&E.......

Square Old Codger says...
11:25am Wed 25 Nov 09

What are all the moaners going to do next year when the real work starts and the roadworks last months not days?

dissc says...
7:40pm Wed 25 Nov 09

Square Old Codger wrote:
What are all the moaners going to do next year when the real work starts and the roadworks last months not days?
You had better change months to years. Apparently they are going to be working on the A338 until 2019 according to the Echo's latest article. Oh well I will put a coffee maker in my car and a loo in the boot ;-) LOL

Cyberbia says...
5:58pm Sun 29 Nov 09

Yet again everyone acts all shocked and surprised!!

The BBC website first reported on these roadworks back on 18th Feb 2007!!!!!

But yet again everyone said "Yeah, whatever..." ... that is until the roadworks actually started and they all got caught out!!


Traffic delays on the Wessex Way between Cooper Dean and St Pauls roundabouts. A338 Spur Road brought to standstill in both directions

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