Poole pupils march to mark rights milestone (From Bournemouth Echo)

Now let's teach everyone about responsibilities which go hand in hand with rights!

2Much...again! wrote:
Now let's teach everyone about responsibilities which go hand in hand with rights!

Here here!!

Absolutely agree. we hear so much about peoples rights but very little about their responsibilities. And it's a shame to say that these children will now plague their parents with their rights yet roll their eyes and sigh when asked to take responsibility for themselves, rooms, clothes etc. yet this is the very foundation of things.

These kids are dead right, they DO have the right to speak out but ONLY when they have earned it!
I guess that this is just a variation on a well used theme.
Well said previous posters!

Maybe these kids should be marching AGAINST a certain Mr. Rumpuy the new "permanent" head of the E.U?
Does not a "permanent head" = Dictator?

Now let's teach everyone about spelling and commas and punctuation so when they are aged and come on herethey wont make draedful mistakes

There are some seriously messed up people posting on this forum.

Children need the same rights as teenagers, adults and older people. Everyone needs to have rights. Yes of course with rights comes responsibility.

If we don't exercise responsibility then we deny peoples rights

I have a family member who works at one of the schools mentioned and I can assure all those with negative comments that children ARE taught about the responsibilities that come with such rights! It fascinates me how so many people jump on the bandwagon regardning rights; whether they be rights for children or adults. We are all autonomous human beings; equal in the eyes of the law and the Conventions which provide us with rights!! Maybe before you get carried away with criticising these you rights you take a moment to consider in what world we would live in without these rights. Have any of you actually studied the Convention for childrens rights or the Convention of human rights? I would recommend doing so before posting your negative comments!! There is nothing worse in the world than know it alls with no actual knowledge of what they are saying. I'm currently studying Human Rights for my law degrees so any questions you have I'd be happy to answer or point you in the direction of relevant research you could consider before voicing your unfounded opinions!!!!

cphappy2004 wrote:
I have a family member who works at one of the schools mentioned and I can assure all those with negative comments that children ARE taught about the responsibilities that come with such rights! It fascinates me how so many people jump on the bandwagon regardning rights; whether they be rights for children or adults. We are all autonomous human beings; equal in the eyes of the law and the Conventions which provide us with rights!! Maybe before you get carried away with criticising these you rights you take a moment to consider in what world we would live in without these rights. Have any of you actually studied the Convention for childrens rights or the Convention of human rights? I would recommend doing so before posting your negative comments!! There is nothing worse in the world than know it alls with no actual knowledge of what they are saying. I'm currently studying Human Rights for my law degrees so any questions you have I'd be happy to answer or point you in the direction of relevant research you could consider before voicing your unfounded opinions!!!!

I'll quite happily point you in the direction of a good English teacher to help you with your grammar and composition.

Laurie H Marsh wrote:
These kids are dead right, they DO have the right to speak out but ONLY when they have earned it!
I guess that this is just a variation on a well used theme.
Well said previous posters!

As a child or an adult you do not have to earn the right to speak out. You should automatically have that right whatever the circumstances.

When it comes to respect that is not automatic, an adult has to win a child's respect and a child must win the respect of adults.

But both groups have rights even if they do not have respect.

phil 67,glad you said that,childrens rights what a load of twaddle,children marching,is this the new kind of teaching in the schools or just catholic schools,they can learn about their rights without marching.I feel sorry for parents who will now be the ones being controlled.Utter madness.

cphappy2004 wrote:
I have a family member who works at one of the schools mentioned and I can assure all those with negative comments that children ARE taught about the responsibilities that come with such rights! It fascinates me how so many people jump on the bandwagon regardning rights; whether they be rights for children or adults. We are all autonomous human beings; equal in the eyes of the law and the Conventions which provide us with rights!! Maybe before you get carried away with criticising these you rights you take a moment to consider in what world we would live in without these rights. Have any of you actually studied the Convention for childrens rights or the Convention of human rights? I would recommend doing so before posting your negative comments!! There is nothing worse in the world than know it alls with no actual knowledge of what they are saying. I'm currently studying Human Rights for my law degrees so any questions you have I'd be happy to answer or point you in the direction of relevant research you could consider before voicing your unfounded opinions!!!!

I havn't seen a single person voicing an unfounded opinion. Just merely pointing out that with rights comes responsibilities. Jumping on your high horse a bit quick aren't we?? "Stand back I've done a course" Don't make me laugh. Knee high to a grass hopper and thinks he/she is expert. Studying does not make you an expert. Get some life experience first. ;) I have just expressed my freedom of speech, now run along.

poolebabe wrote:

cphappy2004 wrote: I have a family member who works at one of the schools mentioned and I can assure all those with negative comments that children ARE taught about the responsibilities that come with such rights! It fascinates me how so many people jump on the bandwagon regardning rights; whether they be rights for children or adults. We are all autonomous human beings; equal in the eyes of the law and the Conventions which provide us with rights!! Maybe before you get carried away with criticising these you rights you take a moment to consider in what world we would live in without these rights. Have any of you actually studied the Convention for childrens rights or the Convention of human rights? I would recommend doing so before posting your negative comments!! There is nothing worse in the world than know it alls with no actual knowledge of what they are saying. I'm currently studying Human Rights for my law degrees so any questions you have I'd be happy to answer or point you in the direction of relevant research you could consider before voicing your unfounded opinions!!!!

I havn't seen a single person voicing an unfounded opinion. Just merely pointing out that with rights comes responsibilities. Jumping on your high horse a bit quick aren't we?? "Stand back I've done a course" Don't make me laugh. Knee high to a grass hopper and thinks he/she is expert. Studying does not make you an expert. Get some life experience first. ;) I have just expressed my freedom of speech, now run along.

Couldn't have put ti better myself.

Firstly, you don't have to be fresh from 6th form or college to do a degree!!! I think it's amusing however that some people are so narrow minded as to not realise that. With regards to my spelling and grammer, at the time of posting my thoughts I was using my mobile phone which unfortunately does not let me go back to see what I have written! :-)!

you probarly need a new cell phone then off ebay

cphappy2004 wrote:
Firstly, you don't have to be fresh from 6th form or college to do a degree!!! I think it's amusing however that some people are so narrow minded as to not realise that. With regards to my spelling and grammer, at the time of posting my thoughts I was using my mobile phone which unfortunately does not let me go back to see what I have written! :-)!

How about your claim that everyone is equal in the eyes of the law? That is certainly not true of children. Those below the age of 10 are deemed as not being culpable for their actions as they have no concept of right or wrong. I believe pregnant women can also claim mitigating circumstances as well. Not the equality you claimed in your earlier posting is it?

West Howe Sean wrote:
There are some seriously messed up people posting on this forum.

Children need the same rights as teenagers, adults and older people. Everyone needs to have rights. Yes of course with rights comes responsibility.

If we don't exercise responsibility then we deny peoples rights

If you saw an adult drinking and smoking themselves to death would you act responsibly and take away their drink and cigarettes? However, if you did do that aren't you then curtailing their right to do what they wish to themselves? Then again if you saw someone under the age of 16 drinking and smoking you could take away their cigarettes and drink as they don't have the right to use those products.

My daughter and son attend one of the schools that took part in yesterdays rally and my daughter attends a club at school to do with justice. A lot of the comments on here have nothing to do with why over 2000 children marched to Poole Park yesterday. If you want to know why they marched look up United Nations Convention on the Rights of a Child.

Phil67 wrote:

West Howe Sean wrote:
There are some seriously messed up people posting on this forum.

Children need the same rights as teenagers, adults and older people. Everyone needs to have rights. Yes of course with rights comes responsibility.

If we don't exercise responsibility then we deny peoples rights

If you saw an adult drinking and smoking themselves to death would you act responsibly and take away their drink and cigarettes? However, if you did do that aren't you then curtailing their right to do what they wish to themselves? Then again if you saw someone under the age of 16 drinking and smoking you could take away their cigarettes and drink as they don't have the right to use those products.

Rights, Law and Justice are often at odds.

Which undermines the concept of absolute truth and the judicial system.

Brilliant! Just the reaction I was hoping for! All done your homework now :-)!!!! The point is children should enjoy such rights as adults, no matter what age. You're right children below 10 are not held liable in the eyes of the law; however there is some debate with regards to that! The case law is extensive!! Nothing like a rights debate on a Saturday night!

Rights and justice will always be at odds with each other and at no point will everyone be satisfied!! It would be impossible

I'm not a teacher but I work at one of the schools involved - not a faith school, incidentally - and I can confirm that the pupils do indeed learn about responsibilities alongside rights. We have a display on our classroom wall about this, and for every right a matching responsibility is listed.

How long pupils choose to practise this is another matter entirely, but the schools try to get the message across.

Salomeuk; Absolutely well said.

cphappy1190 wrote:
Salomeuk; Absolutely well said.

I agree but kamomaevby was good as well. he a dinner or playground supervisor or both/

cphappy2004 wrote:
Firstly, you don't have to be fresh from 6th form or college to do a degree!!! I think it's amusing however that some people are so narrow minded as to not realise that. With regards to my spelling and grammer, at the time of posting my thoughts I was using my mobile phone which unfortunately does not let me go back to see what I have written! :-)!

I do realise that, but the immaturity in your post, and your lack of debating skills, leads me to believe that you are immature. Now whether that means you are young, or just immature, is the answer only you know ;)
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We are not all equal in the eyes of the law, or justice. People in prison for example do not have the same rights as you or I. The list goes on. The Queen for example, has different rights and responsibilities as well. Children do not, and should not have the same rights and responsibilites as adults. As adults we guide them, but they cannot have the same rights.

Uhm actually Poolebabe, yes prisoners do have the same rights as us - but under the HRA these rights are restricted with regards to their freedom! There are lots of debates regarding their right to vote for eample!! Nothing immature in sticking up for what you believe in, all you have done is comment on my beliefs, but what are yours exactly?

My grandaughter was one of the children selected to go on this rally and as far as I'm concerned it was about human rights in general. Yes it was part of anti bullying week and sticking up for their rights not to be bullied, my grandaughter was part of the team and made a speech, that has been learning about Emily Pankhurst and also that the Civil Rights movement has been discussed as well. Which I think we all are be aware of and be teaching our children.

Yet more Liberal PC Brigade claptrap, rather than teaching them rights and marching. How about teaching them right and wrong and respect for others and their elders. How to work hard, this is just another generation who will expect to leave school, have an automatic right to a degree (probably in some mickey mouse subject). Waltz out into the real world with a high and mighty attitude, that they should be management, without an ounce of common sense and then sign off sick after a couple of weeks, because they have to work for a living and had no proper preparation for it.

r50mini wrote:
Yet more Liberal PC Brigade claptrap, rather than teaching them rights and marching. How about teaching them right and wrong and respect for others and their elders. How to work hard, this is just another generation who will expect to leave school, have an automatic right to a degree (probably in some mickey mouse subject). Waltz out into the real world with a high and mighty attitude, that they should be management, without an ounce of common sense and then sign off sick after a couple of weeks, because they have to work for a living and had no proper preparation for it.

Your attitude is part of the problem. Sort yourself out - You are a disgrace.