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Poole mum in new carry-on over wine sale


A MUM shopping with her 14-year-old son was told she couldn’t give him a heavy shopping bag to carry – because it contained a bottle of wine.

Gill Power-Forward had just finished at the check-out at the Canford Heath Asda store and was handing the heavier of the two bags to her strapping teenage son Andrew to take to the car.

But she was stunned to be stopped by the cashier, who insisted she carry the heavy bag herself because it had the bottle of wine in – and her son might drink it.

Gill told the Daily Echo she thought it was a joke – but the cashier maintained that that was the rule.

Gill said: “I didn’t know what to say. The world’s gone mad was all I could think – it’s crazy.”

The 56-year-old, of Spur Hill Avenue, Parkstone, added: “Suppose I’d been in a wheelchair and was unable to carry the bag.

“Hasn’t this stupidity gone far enough?

“Do adults have to be treated like children, too?”

A spokesman for Asda apologised, adding: “We pride ourselves on being a responsible retailer and on this occasion our colleagues at the Canford Heath store were being overly cautious.

“We hope that this hasn’t put Mrs Power-Forward off shopping at Asda in future.”

It is the latest in a string of incidents involving zealous shop assistants which have enraged mums shopping with their children.

The Echo reported recently how mum Lyn Hutchings was stopped from buying a bottle of wine as an anniversary gift at the Co-op in Parkstone because her 12-year-old son was with her.

And in the national media a woman was reportedly prevented from buying a pair of scissors because she allowed her toddler to hand them to the cashier.

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[Chris], WWW says...
9:35am Fri 9 Oct 09

This problem could have been abated if the customer had or was using a trolley to carry the packages back to the car, or pick up point. This type of story comes up a lot, and the same answer will always be given. The stores and supermarkets have their policies laid down by the law. If this means in anyway of stopping an under age person leaving the store carrying a bottle of wine then so be it. The store is covered by its policies.

ry8000, Bournemouth says...
9:54am Fri 9 Oct 09

wrote:
This problem could have been abated if the customer had or was using a trolley to carry the packages back to the car, or pick up point. This type of story comes up a lot, and the same answer will always be given. The stores and supermarkets have their policies laid down by the law. If this means in anyway of stopping an under age person leaving the store carrying a bottle of wine then so be it. The store is covered by its policies.
If you've already completed the purchase, you can do what you like with it. The store have absolutely no say in who carries the bags, or whether they let you leave. Just walk out... what exactly are they going to do about it?

anderton, whitecliff says...
10:00am Fri 9 Oct 09

wrote:
This problem could have been abated if the customer had or was using a trolley to carry the packages back to the car, or pick up point. This type of story comes up a lot, and the same answer will always be given. The stores and supermarkets have their policies laid down by the law. If this means in anyway of stopping an under age person leaving the store carrying a bottle of wine then so be it. The store is covered by its policies.
I have done security at this store,and there have been many problems with underage drinking,problems which extend all over the estate,why do some of these parents moan,they know the rules and the problems,and should be supporting the stores measures.

62131115661144495, Poole says...
10:43am Fri 9 Oct 09

Why she wasn't using a trolley is one mystery. Why the cashier didn't have any common sense is another.

frank bills, says...
10:44am Fri 9 Oct 09

I mean I wanted some brown and some white enlevoples, but was told at the till I could only have the ones that came in white, I was asked for identity before being refused, I mean I am nearly 39 and a half.

ry8000, Bournemouth says...
10:46am Fri 9 Oct 09

frank bills wrote:
I mean I wanted some brown and some white enlevoples, but was told at the till I could only have the ones that came in white, I was asked for identity before being refused, I mean I am nearly 39 and a half.
I'm amazed they allow a computer in your padded room...

Was Charlie, says...
10:57am Fri 9 Oct 09

The world has gone totally mad!!!!! Next it will be a child can't carry a bag containing eggs in case they intend to throw them at people.
Where has common sense gone?

ben111, Ringwood says...
11:34am Fri 9 Oct 09

I couldnt agree more :::: Next we wont be allowed to think for our selves ..... As some one else said if the cashier had mentioned this in passing to the adult as it is part of store policie the echo would not have a storie , and Gill wouldnt have got her lovely face in the paper !

[Chris], WWW says...
11:51am Fri 9 Oct 09

ry8000 wrote:
wrote:
This problem could have been abated if the customer had or was using a trolley to carry the packages back to the car, or pick up point. This type of story comes up a lot, and the same answer will always be given. The stores and supermarkets have their policies laid down by the law. If this means in anyway of stopping an under age person leaving the store carrying a bottle of wine then so be it. The store is covered by its policies.
If you've already completed the purchase, you can do what you like with it. The store have absolutely no say in who carries the bags, or whether they let you leave. Just walk out... what exactly are they going to do about it?
Very wrong ry8000. Why do you think security is at the entrances, and the supermarket is responsible for the premises outside of the store, ie, the car parks etc. Rules are rules, and if it means the supermarket covering themselves to a greater extent then so be it. Knowing the Echo, this was a plant I expect to see the response. Normally someone shopping would use a trolley as a matter of course. Why did she not, thuse illeviating any possible recourse on this matter.

carlspurg, bournemouth says...
12:13pm Fri 9 Oct 09

Was Charlie wrote:
The world has gone totally mad!!!!! Next it will be a child can't carry a bag containing eggs in case they intend to throw them at people.
Where has common sense gone?
Didn't this happen? I recall stores being told not to sell eggs and flour to school children on last day of school.

ry8000, Bournemouth says...
12:24pm Fri 9 Oct 09

wrote:
ry8000 wrote:
wrote: This problem could have been abated if the customer had or was using a trolley to carry the packages back to the car, or pick up point. This type of story comes up a lot, and the same answer will always be given. The stores and supermarkets have their policies laid down by the law. If this means in anyway of stopping an under age person leaving the store carrying a bottle of wine then so be it. The store is covered by its policies.
If you've already completed the purchase, you can do what you like with it. The store have absolutely no say in who carries the bags, or whether they let you leave. Just walk out... what exactly are they going to do about it?
Very wrong ry8000. Why do you think security is at the entrances, and the supermarket is responsible for the premises outside of the store, ie, the car parks etc. Rules are rules, and if it means the supermarket covering themselves to a greater extent then so be it. Knowing the Echo, this was a plant I expect to see the response. Normally someone shopping would use a trolley as a matter of course. Why did she not, thuse illeviating any possible recourse on this matter.
Sorry, that's incorrect. If you have paid for your goods and are committing no crime, the store have no legal right to detain you. In this situation you are within your rights to calmly leave. If the store are unhappy, then they can call the police. But again, if you've committed no crime, then you needn't be afraid of the police being called... it's a non-issue really.

Secondly, the whole point about a trolley is irrelevant. People regularly just pop to the supermarket for a few items, hence the reason they have baskets.

frank bills, says...
12:28pm Fri 9 Oct 09

Banbananas banam I mean what's more dangerous than a banana skin, I mean I was taken away in a white van when I bumped my head over 65 times, I didn't see the skin at the top of the escalator.

frank bills, says...
12:42pm Fri 9 Oct 09

The store have absolutely no say in who carries the bags
.dude you wrong ,they are worried about who carry's the can.

djdaface, Bournemouth says...
12:58pm Fri 9 Oct 09

Pathetic excuse for attention.

Get a grip woman use a trolley

mikeh2000, says...
1:03pm Fri 9 Oct 09

Licensing, licensing,licensing! The stores have a responsibility to stop youths getting alchohol otherwise they can be heavily fined and their license taken away, which for a store this size would cost them dearly, as alcohol although has little profit on it, is used to entice people into the store and spend their money.

Bournemouthstorm, Bournemouth (Town Centre) says...
1:32pm Fri 9 Oct 09

ry8000 wrote:
wrote:
ry8000 wrote:
wrote: This problem could have been abated if the customer had or was using a trolley to carry the packages back to the car, or pick up point. This type of story comes up a lot, and the same answer will always be given. The stores and supermarkets have their policies laid down by the law. If this means in anyway of stopping an under age person leaving the store carrying a bottle of wine then so be it. The store is covered by its policies.
If you've already completed the purchase, you can do what you like with it. The store have absolutely no say in who carries the bags, or whether they let you leave. Just walk out... what exactly are they going to do about it?
Very wrong ry8000. Why do you think security is at the entrances, and the supermarket is responsible for the premises outside of the store, ie, the car parks etc. Rules are rules, and if it means the supermarket covering themselves to a greater extent then so be it. Knowing the Echo, this was a plant I expect to see the response. Normally someone shopping would use a trolley as a matter of course. Why did she not, thuse illeviating any possible recourse on this matter.
Sorry, that's incorrect. If you have paid for your goods and are committing no crime, the store have no legal right to detain you. In this situation you are within your rights to calmly leave. If the store are unhappy, then they can call the police. But again, if you've committed no crime, then you needn't be afraid of the police being called... it's a non-issue really. Secondly, the whole point about a trolley is irrelevant. People regularly just pop to the supermarket for a few items, hence the reason they have baskets.
.But a crime has been committed. The woman has given alcohol to someone under age in a public place. If the women had been buying the alcohol for the teenage lad then it’s the cashier that can be prosecuted for supplying alcohol to someone under age, so they have to be careful.

frank bills, says...
1:45pm Fri 9 Oct 09

ry8000 wrote:
frank bills wrote: I mean I wanted some brown and some white enlevoples, but was told at the till I could only have the ones that came in white, I was asked for identity before being refused, I mean I am nearly 39 and a half.
I'm amazed they allow a computer in your padded room...
Dear ry8000 .Its not in my room its in the day room by the main office near the A R V, its a 52" HD LCD TV / PC with 4gb ram,120gb Hard Drive, and its got a Wifi. when I first saw the monitor on the table up the corner I thought it was a very big microwave oven .

GB1980, Southbourne says...
1:48pm Fri 9 Oct 09

ry8000 wrote:
wrote:
This problem could have been abated if the customer had or was using a trolley to carry the packages back to the car, or pick up point. This type of story comes up a lot, and the same answer will always be given. The stores and supermarkets have their policies laid down by the law. If this means in anyway of stopping an under age person leaving the store carrying a bottle of wine then so be it. The store is covered by its policies.
If you've already completed the purchase, you can do what you like with it. The store have absolutely no say in who carries the bags, or whether they let you leave. Just walk out... what exactly are they going to do about it?
That is the kind of attitude that caused the problem in the first place - if kids are going around committing crimes while drunk the question of where they got the alcohol is going to come up.
I'm guessing the rule of "Refuse sale if the alcohol is likely to be given to a child" was created with the intention of stopping kids hanging around outside off licences and asking adults to go in and buy booze for them.

ry8000, Bournemouth says...
1:56pm Fri 9 Oct 09

Bournemouthstorm wrote:
ry8000 wrote:
wrote:
ry8000 wrote:
wrote: This problem could have been abated if the customer had or was using a trolley to carry the packages back to the car, or pick up point. This type of story comes up a lot, and the same answer will always be given. The stores and supermarkets have their policies laid down by the law. If this means in anyway of stopping an under age person leaving the store carrying a bottle of wine then so be it. The store is covered by its policies.
If you've already completed the purchase, you can do what you like with it. The store have absolutely no say in who carries the bags, or whether they let you leave. Just walk out... what exactly are they going to do about it?
Very wrong ry8000. Why do you think security is at the entrances, and the supermarket is responsible for the premises outside of the store, ie, the car parks etc. Rules are rules, and if it means the supermarket covering themselves to a greater extent then so be it. Knowing the Echo, this was a plant I expect to see the response. Normally someone shopping would use a trolley as a matter of course. Why did she not, thuse illeviating any possible recourse on this matter.
Sorry, that's incorrect. If you have paid for your goods and are committing no crime, the store have no legal right to detain you. In this situation you are within your rights to calmly leave. If the store are unhappy, then they can call the police. But again, if you've committed no crime, then you needn't be afraid of the police being called... it's a non-issue really. Secondly, the whole point about a trolley is irrelevant. People regularly just pop to the supermarket for a few items, hence the reason they have baskets.
.But a crime has been committed. The woman has given alcohol to someone under age in a public place. If the women had been buying the alcohol for the teenage lad then it’s the cashier that can be prosecuted for supplying alcohol to someone under age, so they have to be careful.
Carry a bag containing alcohol is not a crime, regardless of the age of the person... it's a crime if there is intent to consume it illegally, or if the act is committed. Then if a crime was committed the police should have been called. ASDA are not the police, and cannot detain someone; they've even admitted that they made a mistake. If this lady had simply walked away then we wouldn't even be discussing this. That's as far as my point goes.

frank bills, says...
2:10pm Fri 9 Oct 09

frank bills wrote:
ry8000 wrote:
frank bills wrote: I mean I wanted some brown and some white enlevoples, but was told at the till I could only have the ones that came in white, I was asked for identity before being refused, I mean I am nearly 39 and a half.
I'm amazed they allow a computer in your padded room...
Dear ry8000 .Its not in my room its in the day room by the main office near the A R V, its a 52" HD LCD TV / PC with 4gb ram,120gb Hard Drive, and its got a Wifi. when I first saw the monitor on the table up the corner I thought it was a very big microwave oven .
Hello ry8000,I forgot to mention I got a freecom music pal in my room with over 20 thousand radio stations.

terry1965, bournemouth says...
2:10pm Fri 9 Oct 09

So Asda have apologised for their check-out operator being too zealous! I should think so too!Perhaps in future they should allow their staff to use their common sense and discretion instead of trying to turn them all into robots following ridiculous rules.

ry8000, Bournemouth says...
2:14pm Fri 9 Oct 09

GB1980 wrote:
ry8000 wrote:
wrote: This problem could have been abated if the customer had or was using a trolley to carry the packages back to the car, or pick up point. This type of story comes up a lot, and the same answer will always be given. The stores and supermarkets have their policies laid down by the law. If this means in anyway of stopping an under age person leaving the store carrying a bottle of wine then so be it. The store is covered by its policies.
If you've already completed the purchase, you can do what you like with it. The store have absolutely no say in who carries the bags, or whether they let you leave. Just walk out... what exactly are they going to do about it?
That is the kind of attitude that caused the problem in the first place - if kids are going around committing crimes while drunk the question of where they got the alcohol is going to come up. I'm guessing the rule of "Refuse sale if the alcohol is likely to be given to a child" was created with the intention of stopping kids hanging around outside off licences and asking adults to go in and buy booze for them.
I'm not displaying any attitude, I'm merely stating facts. If ASDA were concerned that the child was going to consume the alcohol then they were breaching laws by selling it in the first place; stipulating who carries it is like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. I'm all for preventing alcohol related crime, but we need a common sense approach.

ry8000, Bournemouth says...
2:22pm Fri 9 Oct 09

frank bills wrote:
frank bills wrote:
ry8000 wrote:
frank bills wrote: I mean I wanted some brown and some white enlevoples, but was told at the till I could only have the ones that came in white, I was asked for identity before being refused, I mean I am nearly 39 and a half.
I'm amazed they allow a computer in your padded room...
Dear ry8000 .Its not in my room its in the day room by the main office near the A R V, its a 52" HD LCD TV / PC with 4gb ram,120gb Hard Drive, and its got a Wifi. when I first saw the monitor on the table up the corner I thought it was a very big microwave oven .
Hello ry8000,I forgot to mention I got a freecom music pal in my room with over 20 thousand radio stations.
... and I bet you just listen to white noise... no doubt the voices tell you to.

[Chris], WWW says...
2:41pm Fri 9 Oct 09

ry8000 wrote:
wrote:
ry8000 wrote:
wrote: This problem could have been abated if the customer had or was using a trolley to carry the packages back to the car, or pick up point. This type of story comes up a lot, and the same answer will always be given. The stores and supermarkets have their policies laid down by the law. If this means in anyway of stopping an under age person leaving the store carrying a bottle of wine then so be it. The store is covered by its policies.
If you've already completed the purchase, you can do what you like with it. The store have absolutely no say in who carries the bags, or whether they let you leave. Just walk out... what exactly are they going to do about it?
Very wrong ry8000. Why do you think security is at the entrances, and the supermarket is responsible for the premises outside of the store, ie, the car parks etc. Rules are rules, and if it means the supermarket covering themselves to a greater extent then so be it. Knowing the Echo, this was a plant I expect to see the response. Normally someone shopping would use a trolley as a matter of course. Why did she not, thuse illeviating any possible recourse on this matter.
Sorry, that's incorrect. If you have paid for your goods and are committing no crime, the store have no legal right to detain you. In this situation you are within your rights to calmly leave. If the store are unhappy, then they can call the police. But again, if you've committed no crime, then you needn't be afraid of the police being called... it's a non-issue really.

Secondly, the whole point about a trolley is irrelevant. People regularly just pop to the supermarket for a few items, hence the reason they have baskets.
ry8000....not once to you recognise the rules of the supermarket. Their policies are in place to ensure that at no time they are permitting anyone under age of being involved with alcohol. If that means doing what ASDA did then that is their policy. Parents, relatives should also be aware of this, and know that a supermarket has reasons as to why they do this. You may call the teller of zealous, or over the top, nevertheless, she was only carrying out orders of her store, as she was taught in her induction training.
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Once again, the Echo has taken a story from someone over this issue and tried to make a story out of it. In my opinion such stories should not be published when there are more compelling issues going on in our areas and our streets.
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Well done the Daily Echo, you have once again caused a riff amongst your readers...hope you are having a laugh once again.....

[Chris], WWW says...
2:57pm Fri 9 Oct 09

ry8000....after responding above, I read your inane comments to other members, and each time you do not seem to grasp the rules that supermarkets have to adhere to. Put yourself in the shoes of the check out girl. She checks the shopping through the till, and it is bagged up. The mother then gives the bag to her son to carry. On leaving the store, the mother decides to go to the cigarette counter, and the son wonders out of the store. He is met with security or a visiting Police Officer on duty. Either notices the wine in the bag. Not wishing to accuse his mother, he tells the security and or the Police that he purchased it, and was allowed through the check out. That check out girl is in big trouble, and will have to pay any charges, fines herself, and no doubt lose her job.
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Had the son said he was holding it for his mother whilst she was at another counter, she would have been cautioned as the ruling of under age persons having alcohol in their possession.
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Grasp that ry8000 and you might see what the matter is about. The reason of the trolley is obvious. The contents of the shopping would have not been needed to be carried by her son.
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Now it is the end of the story.......

frank bills, says...
3:00pm Fri 9 Oct 09

Soon it will be you got to be 25 to buy a bottle of vomit


frank bills, says...
3:01pm Fri 9 Oct 09

Sorry i meant to put..Soon it will be you got to be 25 to buy a bottle of vimto

frank bills, says...
3:16pm Fri 9 Oct 09

She should ov got the fags for her son BEFORE she got him his alcoholic beverages

salomeuk, Poole says...
3:30pm Fri 9 Oct 09

Perhaps the lady concerned was only buying a few items and/or didn't have a pound coin handy for a trolley.

I think it was fair enough for the cashier to stop the son carrying the bag. However, surely the sensible thing would have been to offer to get a member of staff to carry the bag to the customer's car in this case?

Lord Spring, says...
3:38pm Fri 9 Oct 09

To safeguard the Supermarkets from prosecution relating to alcohol issues the answer is easy, sale food and cease the sale of alcohol .

ry8000, Bournemouth says...
3:56pm Fri 9 Oct 09

wrote:
ry8000....after responding above, I read your inane comments to other members, and each time you do not seem to grasp the rules that supermarkets have to adhere to. Put yourself in the shoes of the check out girl. She checks the shopping through the till, and it is bagged up. The mother then gives the bag to her son to carry. On leaving the store, the mother decides to go to the cigarette counter, and the son wonders out of the store. He is met with security or a visiting Police Officer on duty. Either notices the wine in the bag. Not wishing to accuse his mother, he tells the security and or the Police that he purchased it, and was allowed through the check out. That check out girl is in big trouble, and will have to pay any charges, fines herself, and no doubt lose her job. . Had the son said he was holding it for his mother whilst she was at another counter, she would have been cautioned as the ruling of under age persons having alcohol in their possession. . Grasp that ry8000 and you might see what the matter is about. The reason of the trolley is obvious. The contents of the shopping would have not been needed to be carried by her son. . Now it is the end of the story.......
I'm sorry but you're still wrong. All I'm saying is that there needn't even be any confrontation. Can you please explain, since you seem to know everything, what the supermarket can legally do to stop you walking out and going home? Bearing in mind, you've already paid, and you have no intention to let the child drink the alcohol unsupervised. You may wish to consider that carrying alcohol, as a child with an adult present, is not illegal. And as I previously noted, if the supermarket had concerns they shouldn't have sold it in the first place. Honestly, you're really getting wound up over nothing here...

[Chris], WWW says...
4:25pm Fri 9 Oct 09

ry8000...I do not appear to know everything, I could say the same to you, but have no intention of doing so, or inferring that you are getting wound up. All I am doing is pointing out the supermarket policies, and the reasons as to why they are in place. It makes no difference of being on the premises or not. At the time of purchase, the cashier followed her company ruling, and insisted that the under age person did not carry the bag. If that was being over zealous, then the supermarket will tell her so, but at the time she was abiding by the rulings laid down in all supermarket operators inductions on joining the company.
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Simples really..............
.

ry8000, Bournemouth says...
4:35pm Fri 9 Oct 09

wrote:
ry8000...I do not appear to know everything, I could say the same to you, but have no intention of doing so, or inferring that you are getting wound up. All I am doing is pointing out the supermarket policies, and the reasons as to why they are in place. It makes no difference of being on the premises or not. At the time of purchase, the cashier followed her company ruling, and insisted that the under age person did not carry the bag. If that was being over zealous, then the supermarket will tell her so, but at the time she was abiding by the rulings laid down in all supermarket operators inductions on joining the company. . Simples really.............. .
But she'd finished at the checkout according to the story, implying that she'd already paid. And my entire point is based around this... if she's paid, the supermarket no longer have a say...
Crikey!

[Chris], WWW says...
4:44pm Fri 9 Oct 09

Yes ry8000 Crikey.....dont you go on. The fact is she was still on the premises of the supermarket, which is why the cashier, maybe over zealously, taking her training to heart, stopped the woman handing the package over to the underage person. The policies of the supermarket is just that, no one underage is permitted to have alcohol.
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It is plain and simple. Get over it.
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Or are you implying that it is OK for an adult to by alcohol, and once paid for, it is OK to hand it over to an underage person........Crikey
.........but of course you do not advocate that do you.
.
Like I and others have said, the supermarkets are saving their own skins, regardless of where the boundaries stop.

ry8000, Bournemouth says...
4:53pm Fri 9 Oct 09

wrote:
Yes ry8000 Crikey.....dont you go on. The fact is she was still on the premises of the supermarket, which is why the cashier, maybe over zealously, taking her training to heart, stopped the woman handing the package over to the underage person. The policies of the supermarket is just that, no one underage is permitted to have alcohol. . It is plain and simple. Get over it. . Or are you implying that it is OK for an adult to by alcohol, and once paid for, it is OK to hand it over to an underage person........Crikey .........but of course you do not advocate that do you. . Like I and others have said, the supermarkets are saving their own skins, regardless of where the boundaries stop.
You do seem to be going on too... and remember, I just made a simple statement that I stand by. It's interesting that you think a supermarket has the right to tell you what to do... amazing. Thankfully, for all our sakes, you're wrong. You are more than welcome to carry on thinking that though, but meanwhile in the real world...

paul2, bournemouth says...
4:59pm Fri 9 Oct 09

Why not ban alcohol sales from the supermarket altogether, it might give the nearby pubs more trade and provide local employment.

upyourpipe, Bearcross says...
5:17pm Fri 9 Oct 09

Does this stupid story mean that if i park my car outside a shop and leave my 14 year old son in the passenger seat he can get arrested for being in a motor vehicle while under age, this nanny state and stupid jobsworths are ruining this country for the law abiding citizen yet again.
It often amazes me that at 14 years of age you are classed as an adult when boarding a bus or paying admission to gain entry to a theme park but when it comes to helping your mother carry her shopping this same 14 year old is classed as a child.
This whole country has gone mad.
We know its illegal to purchase or drink alcohol under the age of 18 but since when has it become a criminal offence to carry a bag of shopping.
Jobsworths and nanny state gone mad.

[Chris], WWW says...
5:18pm Fri 9 Oct 09

ry8000, as you are now becoming pedantic, like you in your way of thinking, I have only stated what the supermarkets policies are. If I worked in a supermarket, which I have, and it protected me, then so be it, I would implement what the cashier did also.
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We will agree to disagree. Hopefully you will not get confronted when you hand over a bag of alcohol to and under age person outside a supermarket.

Rev janus, poole says...
5:35pm Fri 9 Oct 09

wrote:
ry8000, as you are now becoming pedantic, like you in your way of thinking, I have only stated what the supermarkets policies are. If I worked in a supermarket, which I have, and it protected me, then so be it, I would implement what the cashier did also. . We will agree to disagree. Hopefully you will not get confronted when you hand over a bag of alcohol to and under age person outside a supermarket.
I can see why this country is in such a state with people like you thinking this PC culture is ok! Everytime there is a article on this website there is one name that pops up time and time again with advice, and it's yours! Lets get real, her son was helping her carry her bags to her car, it's because of people like you that the scouts don't have bob a job anymore!! How can a young scout, a pillar of society wait outside a supermarket to help a women to her car with her bags without people like you thinking he would rumage through them, run off with her wine and get bladdered somewhere. You must be very limited in common sense or a miserable old man, either way get a life. Lets leave decisions like this to the childs parents, if she seems fit to allow her child to carry her shopping bags then so be it and people like you should but out, are you any relation to Cherie Blair!

Rev janus, poole says...
5:39pm Fri 9 Oct 09

the above comment is for (chris)www

Was Charlie, says...
6:39pm Fri 9 Oct 09

I would have asked the checkout person for their name and told them she and the store would be hearing from my solicitor. She had obviously decided that the woman was likely to let her son drink the alcohol - on what evidence. Surely defamation of character or come other offence must have been commited.

CoogarUK.com, Dorchester says...
7:24pm Fri 9 Oct 09

If the shop assistant made a mistake here, perhaps it was selling her the wine in the first place. Judging by many similar articles that have appeared over time here, many shops would have refused her.

CoogarUK.com, Dorchester says...
7:27pm Fri 9 Oct 09

p.s. instead of creating such a fuss in the press, why didn't the silly woman simply switch the bottle of wine to the other bag?

Nifty Nurse, Wimborne says...
7:50pm Fri 9 Oct 09

Bla,bla,bla,common sense has gone out of the window Rev janus, and you will never get these idiots to understand that and that's despite the nanny state's attempt to control everything!

CoogarUK.com, Dorchester says...
8:35pm Fri 9 Oct 09

I agree. If only she had used some common sense and carried the wine herself!

samsmith, Dorset says...
9:17pm Fri 9 Oct 09

Why this is rediculous is as follows:

14 year old DO NOT go for wine as their tipple of choice when getting drunk.

Frosty Jacks, Barcardi Breezers, Smirnoff Ice, bottled beer, and any other sugared up alcopop drink... YES. Wine? NO.


Case closed.



poolebabe, poole says...
8:16am Sat 10 Oct 09

I don't think it is common sense gone out the window. What's the big deal here? Rules are rules. When you send out subtle messages to children, allowing them to break rules because a parent thinks it's a silly rule, you are storing up problems in the future. As a parent, if you stand there are argue a rule in front of children, you are sending out a message to that child that some rules don't matter. So what happens when a child reads a sign that says keep off the railway tracks and they think it's a silly rule? Whether the parent agrees with the rules or not, they have a duty to adhere to them in front of their children. That's half of what's wrong with some children today. Their parents have inadvertantly taught them that some rules are ok to break. Problem is, the children don't know which ones. In the summer I saw this in Hamworthy park. The pool was closed due to health and safety, but the parents just shrugged their shoulders and allowed their children to play there. It might have been an over cautious rule, but that's not for the parents to allow their children to break them! Just think about the message you are sending out to your children!!

poole_god, says...
11:14pm Sat 10 Oct 09

I do find it funny how Chris attacks ANYONE who dares have a different opinion to him.

Even ASDA have said it was a mistake and they should not have done what they done but you still want to justify their incorrect actions.

Shop policys are exactly that, policys, they are not law and they can be broken by any empowered member of the team using common sense. Clearly in this case common sense was not used and the policy was enforced by someone who did not have the common sense to make a proper decision.

You are very very silly and making your self look even more silly by the day

[Chris], WWW says...
11:38pm Sat 10 Oct 09

Poole god, you will not rest will you. Asda may have stated that they were over the top, or out of order. My statements have been that this is the rules set down by all supermarkets. Read above, and you will see others agree, even Poolebabe, directly above my last comment.
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I believe you have a vendetta on me, as you do not appear to be reading other comments other than mine. So maybe it is time that you beleive what you want, and I will do the same.
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The store is now closed. Oh yes, and your barred.

upontown, poole says...
2:32pm Sun 11 Oct 09

Just take the liquor licence away from the supermarkets and no one will ever suffer this problem again.

anna007, Queens Park says...
6:20pm Sun 11 Oct 09

I'm surprised they gave her a bag as they usually say you have to bring your own.As a parent,if my child said he'd carry any of my shopping I'd have to drink the wine on the spot!!
For goodness sake,there are lads and lasses getting shot in Iraq and you lot are whinging on about this poor boy who years ago could nip down the corner shop and buy his old man a packet of cigarettes,now you can't even let your kids out of your sight.The laws have gone mad because there is no one sensible in this nanny state!!

Webvision, Bournemouth says...
1:05pm Mon 12 Oct 09

I doubt that a typical checkout operator is given any flexibility or allowance for making common sense decisions. The policies are imposed, no doubt in black & white, by the store. A year or two ago I bought some party poppers from a shop & the assistant asked me if i was over 16. I queried this, & she said that she "had to ask anyone buying party poppers to confirm they were over 16". I am 47. Idiotic, isn't it?

Emulated, Bournemouth says...
2:18pm Tue 13 Oct 09

Its a case of dammed if you do and dammed if you don't for the supermarkets. Also another non news story and you have to wonder how the Echo gets hold of such rubbish.

waspy, says...
12:25am Wed 14 Oct 09

She could have carried her own bottle of wine i'm sure, some things are not worth getting in a tizz about really. If there is a known problem with teens trying to obtain drink from that paticular store, i'm sure Asda would be made all to aware of the problem...They have a reputation to uphold so although there may have been nothing sinister in this lady asking her son to carry her "heavy" bottle of wine, it isnt in Asdas best interests to have a 14 yr old walking out of their store with a bottle of wine.

overthehills, tokyo says...
12:45am Thu 15 Oct 09

Thanks for the entertainment people. Let's hope that Mrs Power-Forward can, er, quickly move on from this.

GB1980, Southbourne says...
5:10pm Thu 15 Oct 09

ry8000 wrote:
GB1980 wrote:
ry8000 wrote:
wrote: This problem could have been abated if the customer had or was using a trolley to carry the packages back to the car, or pick up point. This type of story comes up a lot, and the same answer will always be given. The stores and supermarkets have their policies laid down by the law. If this means in anyway of stopping an under age person leaving the store carrying a bottle of wine then so be it. The store is covered by its policies.
If you've already completed the purchase, you can do what you like with it. The store have absolutely no say in who carries the bags, or whether they let you leave. Just walk out... what exactly are they going to do about it?
That is the kind of attitude that caused the problem in the first place - if kids are going around committing crimes while drunk the question of where they got the alcohol is going to come up. I'm guessing the rule of "Refuse sale if the alcohol is likely to be given to a child" was created with the intention of stopping kids hanging around outside off licences and asking adults to go in and buy booze for them.
I'm not displaying any attitude, I'm merely stating facts. If ASDA were concerned that the child was going to consume the alcohol then they were breaching laws by selling it in the first place; stipulating who carries it is like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. I'm all for preventing alcohol related crime, but we need a common sense approach.
You're not "merely stating facts", you're expressing your opinion, but that's beside the point.
Just because someone has paid for something doesn't entitle them to do whatever they like with it, otherwise it makes a mockery of the whole idea of age restricted products.
If you've bought a kitchen knife you haven't bought the right to stab someone with it as well, have you?
It's the same idea with alcohol - just because it has been paid for the person who bought it can't just hand it straight to a 14 year old, otherwise we'll get more 14 year olds hanging around outside shops saying "s'cuse me" to the people going inside, then staggering around drunk in the streets later on.

Common sense sounds fantastic, but if you start making exceptions where does it end? Can the 14 year old present the item for purchase? Pay for it? Walk out of the shop with it? Walk into the shop, pick it off the shelf, present it for purchase, pay for it and walk out of the shop with it because "it's for their disabled elderly mother who is waiting in the car outside"?

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