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7:00am Tuesday 7th July 2009
ONLY weeks ago, interior designer Wayne Hemmingway visited Boscombe to launch the “most desirable beach huts in the UK”.
The Red or Dead label founder’s “surf pods” accompany the multi-million pound surf reef and Boscombe Overstrand development.
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Due for completion in September, the reef will end up costing £3.03 million, while the entire Boscombe Spa Village project totals £11 million.
But just a few streets away it’s a very different story.
A 25-year-old man was left with life-threatening head injuries after a vicious assault in an alleyway off Roumelia Lane in the early hours of Saturday.
Just hours earlier, there were reports a man had been stabbed in nearby Heathcote Road. Witnesses described seeing the victim, who was thought to be in his 40s, being taken away by ambulance covered in blood.
He is believed to have suffered wounds to his throat and back during the attack, which took place at around 6.15pm outside a bank near the Christchurch Road junction.
Such violence is not unprecedented in Boscombe.
Last month Bournemouth East MP Tobias Ellwood was allegedly punched by youths on a Saturday afternoon after confronting them about playing football in Boscombe shopping precinct.
It’s clear that, despite the vast amount of money being poured into part of Boscombe, the area still has its problems. But will making the beach into a surfer’s paradise really rid the area of its demons?
Boscombe West councillor Lisa Northover certainly thinks so.
“There are still problems, but you can’t just change things overnight. Recently the police have been doing an awful lot and they’ve had quite a good strategy for dealing with things in the precinct and surrounding area.”
Cllr Northover said money was being spent on art installations to try and attract seafront visitors to the shops and that the beach was starting to attract a different clientele.
“It’s a long process. These people that are drink and drug users or violent are often living in bedsit houses that are privately owned and it’s very difficult to do anything about it.
“The way we can change that is to improve the area so that landlords want more affluent people living in their houses. It would be really silly to just say ‘there’s still crime happening, it’s all a waste of money’ because it’s not.”
Cllr Chris Wakefield, also representing Boscombe West, agreed.“Those sorts of incidents could have happened anywhere in the country but it’s highlighted because Boscombe has a bad reputation, but it’s getting better.
“People want to come and live here, people want to come and trade here and people even want to come on holiday here.”
Cllr Wakefield’s view was echoed by Steve Kent, chairman of Boscombe Traders’ Association.
“Things like this can happen anywhere,” he said.“It’s happened in Kinson, in Bournemouth town centre. This is a blip. The police force is dealing with high volumes of visitors coming into the area without having funding to cope with it.”
Some residents and traders also feel Boscombe has improved.
“You can just feel the energy is really different,” said Joanne Guest, 37, of Boscombe Overcliff Drive.
She added that many of the drunks and other unsavoury characters found in the precinct a year ago seemed to have disappeared.
Jon Burdge, co-owner of Café Boscanova, added: “There’s no question there has been massive improvement. There are more young couples here, it’s becoming more bohemian.
“I live in Lymington which is supposedly an upper middle class sleepy market town and I wouldn’t see any more trouble here than there.”
However not everyone shared that view.
Trudie Carter-Pavelin, 16, of Manor Road, said most of her friends were too scared to walk around the area at night.
She added: “I got this drunk man stumble up to me asking what were we doing there and we shouldn’t sit there and he wouldn’t go away. You can’t walk through here without getting comments. It’s not very nice.”
Mum-of-two Debbie Mooney lives in Highcliffe and regularly shops in Boscombe, but said she would not feel safe in the area at night.
“I have a 20-year-old daughter and she’d never come here at night.
“A few years ago we were in a cafe and this guy was shooting up in the toilets and came out ranting and raving. I think quite a few people go in the gardens and have a drink.”
Shirley McKenna runs community events from premises in Roumelia Lane.
While she said the area had improved, she said more investment was needed to make Boscombe safer.
“We’ve managed to move on a lot of the drink and drug stuff, but it still gravitates there, it’s got nowhere else to go.
“The new apartments look very nice, but as soon as they come to the precinct, what have we got to offer? There was a delay with the surf reef and a lot of people put their business plans together based on that and they’re not here now.
“Bournemouth is very proud of being Investors in People, but where’s their investment in the community? All I can do is put my prayers in Boscombe.”
Mediclogan5, Bournemouth says...
7:28am Tue 7 Jul 09
Peggy Babcock, Poole says...
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cooperman, bournemouth says...
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BourneRed, Bournemouth says...
7:51am Tue 7 Jul 09
cooperman, bournemouth says...
7:53am Tue 7 Jul 09
cooperman, bournemouth says...
8:06am Tue 7 Jul 09
BourneRed wrote:improved !!??? oh yes,ONLY TWO people either stabbed or had their heads kicked in this week !! what percentage improvement would that be then ???
Boscombe has improved, the re-developments with new property etc has just moved the low-lifes as people call them.
Those that cause a problem have just been pushed slightly north into Springbourne, so the centre obviously is still a hot point for them.
GAHmusic, Bournemouth says...
8:07am Tue 7 Jul 09
BourneRed, Bournemouth says...
8:14am Tue 7 Jul 09
cooperman wrote:The general area has improved.
BourneRed wrote:improved !!??? oh yes,ONLY TWO people either stabbed or had their heads kicked in this week !! what percentage improvement would that be then ???
Boscombe has improved, the re-developments with new property etc has just moved the low-lifes as people call them.
Those that cause a problem have just been pushed slightly north into Springbourne, so the centre obviously is still a hot point for them.
Mediclogan5, Bournemouth says...
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ferret38, bournemouth says...
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ferret38, bournemouth says...
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chomper, Bournemouth says...
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Mediclogan5, Bournemouth says...
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cantique, bournemouth says...
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Trifecta, Southbourne says...
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Bob49, Bournemouth says...
10:06am Tue 7 Jul 09
cooperman, bournemouth says...
10:19am Tue 7 Jul 09
cantique wrote:everybody has a choice stop making excuses for these idle leeches,they have all the help in the world if they trully want it - I see healthy,capable people selling the big issue and think to myself ... why would any self respecting person resort to begging a living ? sympathy from here NONE. druggies are a scourge on modern life and they are what they want to be,I am delighted that they suffer at their own hands. maybe I am just a little old fashioned
Boscombe may be a magnet for drunks and druggies, but do you really think that they WANT to be like that? Their way of life is all they now know, and there is no real hope or help available for them to improve themselves. With the present financial crisis, any of us could find ourselves in a similar situation - "there but for the grace of God go I".
dylan3201, poole says...
10:23am Tue 7 Jul 09
JLC, Bournemouth says...
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Aviewoneverything, Bournemouth says...
10:31am Tue 7 Jul 09
cooperman, bournemouth says...
10:34am Tue 7 Jul 09
JLC wrote:inspired thought - a centralised begging centre with a bombing marker on the roof ready for the airshow .a bombing run would solve two pressing problems !!!
Why not turn the IMAX into a drug rehabilitation centre to help the people of Boscombe. It's sitting vacant at the moment, so surely this would be a better use for it?
cooperman, bournemouth says...
10:38am Tue 7 Jul 09
Aviewoneverything wrote:goodness me ... Ive got a fan club . but seriously lets withdraw the sympathy for anyone who isnt trying to break the habit - the rescources wasted on the drugs crowd is enormous and unjustified
Well said copperman. Yes these people may be on hard times but even the most mindless of people know that taking hard drugs like heroine leads to addiction and an appalling way of life. It's sad they've ended up the way they have but they all have it within themselves to change for the better, many just don;t want to.
Note to druggies and alcoholics...stop feeling sorry for yourselves and blaming everyone else for your problems. Shake yourself off, get some help and get your life back. Stop being a stereotype.
Bob49, Bournemouth says...
10:48am Tue 7 Jul 09
cooperman, bournemouth says...
10:58am Tue 7 Jul 09
Bob49 wrote:we coped very nicely with people working before drugs became a problem and I am sure we can do it again .
Society produces a number of unproductive workers. WOW ! Perhaps cooperman could explain what we do with all those displaced from their jobs and homes if all the 'druggies' were to renounce the ways and take up employment.
Maybe deal with the anger of those making a healthy profit from housing them.
And afterwards take a visit to the cancer wards of Bournemouth and Poole hospital to sneer at those dying through 'their choice'. Perhaps trill out your message of them being there because they want to be there. They are laying idly in the bed because they don't want to help themself.
If only. If only life's answers were as simply as that, or you, cooperman
Bob49, Bournemouth says...
11:28am Tue 7 Jul 09
manana, southbourne says...
11:37am Tue 7 Jul 09
Bob49 wrote:Yeah and namby-pambying these people also does not help. Nothing will help them unless they learn to help themselves. I, for one, am sick of going to Boscombe and being hassled by drunk, high idiots. Its their choice to take these substances but we, the public, have to put up with the consequenses.
I haven't a clue what on earth you are rambling on about cooperman. Perhaps you could get an adult to help, if so ask them to address these points. If the druggies all got jobs what would happen to those who previously had those jobs ? How much is being made by supposedly respectable people housing druggies ? Are those in hospital because of their use of other drugs, alchol and tobaco are they because they don't want to help themselves ? Ill thought out, simple knee jerk responses don't help the debate.
DemonDiva, Bournemouth says...
11:43am Tue 7 Jul 09
Bob49, Bournemouth says...
11:46am Tue 7 Jul 09
DemonDiva, Bournemouth says...
11:48am Tue 7 Jul 09
Bob49 wrote:Insulting another poster doesn't help a debate either, but I suppose that's by-the-by. Everyone else seems to understand, I'm not quite sure why you didn't.
I haven't a clue what on earth you are rambling on about cooperman. Perhaps you could get an adult to help, if so ask them to address these points.
If the druggies all got jobs what would happen to those who previously had those jobs ?
How much is being made by supposedly respectable people housing druggies ?
Are those in hospital because of their use of other drugs, alchol and tobaco are they because they don't want to help themselves ?
Ill thought out, simple knee jerk responses don't help the debate.
cooperman, bournemouth says...
11:55am Tue 7 Jul 09
Bob49 wrote:i think everyone else seems to understand what I am saying - I am fed up ,like most others of supporting the drop-outs,I dont have any issues with people who are ill,but if its intentional and self inflicted then there for me is the line. druggies and wasters have been around a long time,its nothing to do with a ressession they didnt look for work when the country was prospering for 15 years but I guess the begging was easier.some of these perfectly capable people have never done a days work since they left school - I sincerely hope the government forces those who can to find work or stop funding them and their habits through the taxes that I pay because thats a government to vote for.I have worked all my life and if its good enough for me its good enough for everyone else unless they are all but dead
I haven't a clue what on earth you are rambling on about cooperman. Perhaps you could get an adult to help, if so ask them to address these points.
If the druggies all got jobs what would happen to those who previously had those jobs ?
How much is being made by supposedly respectable people housing druggies ?
Are those in hospital because of their use of other drugs, alchol and tobaco are they because they don't want to help themselves ?
Ill thought out, simple knee jerk responses don't help the debate.
cooperman, bournemouth says...
12:05pm Tue 7 Jul 09
Bob49 wrote:i cant see your point . are you saying that its ok to be a deadbeat ? what points do you want answering ? are you someone with a drug/alcohol issue - i cannot for the life of me see any point in supporting these people who take kindness for weakness and they are near professionals at it. I work for my money why should it be wasted on these layabouts who have blighted Boscombe ... a Boscombe that was a once proud and affluent part of bournemouth and I for one want that back and them out - its that simple and i dont care how much pain that inflicts on these self harming sickos
So NO answers to my points, merely the usual response - make up something I never said and reply to that instead.
So manana could you please tell us all where I advocated "namby-pambying these people" ?
Glashen, Christchurch says...
12:21pm Tue 7 Jul 09
Bob49 wrote:You accuse others of talking drivel, but this post is really incomprehensible, to suggest drug users are making a contribution to society by giving employment to those who treat them and profit to those who house them is obvious nonsense. Have you never heard of wealth creation.
Society produces a number of unproductive workers. WOW ! Perhaps cooperman could explain what we do with all those displaced from their jobs and homes if all the 'druggies' were to renounce the ways and take up employment.
Maybe deal with the anger of those making a healthy profit from housing them.
And afterwards take a visit to the cancer wards of Bournemouth and Poole hospital to sneer at those dying through 'their choice'. Perhaps trill out your message of them being there because they want to be there. They are laying idly in the bed because they don't want to help themself.
If only. If only life's answers were as simply as that, or you, cooperman
Fightingback, christchurch says...
12:26pm Tue 7 Jul 09
DemonDiva, Bournemouth says...
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DemonDiva, Bournemouth says...
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rook, wimborne says...
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david barbara, Turlin Moor says...
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Reality cheque, Southbourne says...
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djd, bournemouth says...
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open mind, springbourne says...
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carmen1, bournemouth says...
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57angels, boscombe says...
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arendea, southbourne says...
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Aviewoneverything, Bournemouth says...
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BoscombeLover, Boscombe says...
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Mediclogan5, Bournemouth says...
1:52pm Tue 7 Jul 09
arendea wrote:Well said arenda we as a society as well as a community need to be aware of the plight of substance abuse whether alcohol or drug related, yes it is a choice but why would anyone choose that way? Maybe if the council realy sat down and questioned this then perhaps exclusion from those without wouldnt add to the numbers in despair. And if the idea of buying up pieces of Boscombe purely for the affluent then this town council has reverted back to the days of Thatcherism...Let them eat cake!
I think that the deveoplent and regenreation of Boscombe is going to take more than money! People in positions of poverty and problems need love and caring as well as money thrown at them. There are many issues faced with regeneration... there is a concentration of treatment centres which will naturally draw people to this area anyway, the area has a reputation which will take years and years to grow out of and property prices are so low that you will only attract people of a certain level of income to the area - not all of which may be 'unsavories' but this still keeps the average level of income in the area low enough for 'upper class' investors to continue to not invest in the less affluent areas of Boscombe. The seafront will always be expensive to live in, thats a fact up and down the country... and its not the areounf the seafront or pier areas that the real problems exist.
also...lol - more valid points made by Bob49 clouded by insulting comments, replies and a too-quick-to-defend-
and-snip-back attitude towards other commenters.
Bob49 - get some people skills hunny - you are entitled to your opinion but MUST remember that because YOU are entitled, SO are other people !
Bob49, Bournemouth says...
2:04pm Tue 7 Jul 09
david barbara, Turlin Moor says...
2:05pm Tue 7 Jul 09
open mind wrote:Ohhhh, would you sir, would you?????
Anyone notice the good bit of news? Model Joanne Guest now lives in Boscombe!
simplythebest, Bournemouth says...
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Deke60 wrote:I doubt it compared to Boscombe, and in particular not during the day, unlike Boscombe.
"I visited Weymouth the other weekend, it was fantastic. Lots going on, plenty for everyone to do. Good parking, close to shops, one or two pubs and clubs, but most important, lots for the visitors to do."
And I visited Weymouth the other day and saw more drunken violence and drug dealing than in any other town I have visited. Boscombe is a rising area, but people will always bring their problems with them.
david barbara, Turlin Moor says...
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dopey, says...
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Markmag, Boscombe says...
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open mind wrote:Get well soon Jo!
Anyone notice the good bit of news? Model Joanne Guest now lives in Boscombe!
time nor Tide, bournemouth says...
11:14pm Tue 7 Jul 09
realvegas1, boscombe says...
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ferret38, bournemouth says...
7:18am Tue 7 Jul 09