Poole Town's Branksome Rec deal approved after chaotic meeting (From Bournemouth Echo)

John T wrote:
It is no coincidence that the large mouths in support of this scheme on this site are all from Bournemouth. It is not them, but the Poole taxpayer, who will have to bail out PTFC when Mr Reeves' big ideas start going pear-shaped.

terry1965 wrote:
This is excellent news for PTFC.

Hopefully once the refurbishment of Branksome Rec. is finished, the club will be able to quickly climb the football ladder to be back up where they belong, which is at least Conference South level.

The club have an ambitious chairman, a top manager & a good squad of players who deserve our support!

Now can the nimbys in Branksome kindly STFU & accept that you lost the debate. This development is good news for the whole town!

But if you don't like it, you can always move!

Shane889 wrote:

John T wrote:
It is no coincidence that the large mouths in support of this scheme on this site are all from Bournemouth. It is not them, but the Poole taxpayer, who will have to bail out PTFC when Mr Reeves' big ideas start going pear-shaped.

you plum, chris reeves lives in branksome, not bmouth

Zzzz wrote:

terry1965 wrote:
This is excellent news for PTFC.

Hopefully once the refurbishment of Branksome Rec. is finished, the club will be able to quickly climb the football ladder to be back up where they belong, which is at least Conference South level.

The club have an ambitious chairman, a top manager & a good squad of players who deserve our support!

Now can the nimbys in Branksome kindly STFU & accept that you lost the debate. This development is good news for the whole town!

But if you don't like it, you can always move!

Don't get uppity, chum. The local residents can always make life extremely difficult for your club if they want to.

Never mind: if you don't like it, you can always move!

pete woodley wrote:

Zzzz wrote:

terry1965 wrote:
This is excellent news for PTFC.

Hopefully once the refurbishment of Branksome Rec. is finished, the club will be able to quickly climb the football ladder to be back up where they belong, which is at least Conference South level.

The club have an ambitious chairman, a top manager & a good squad of players who deserve our support!

Now can the nimbys in Branksome kindly STFU & accept that you lost the debate. This development is good news for the whole town!

But if you don't like it, you can always move!

Don't get uppity, chum. The local residents can always make life extremely difficult for your club if they want to.

Never mind: if you don't like it, you can always move!

That comment looks like a serious threat,when you say local residents can always make life extremely difficult,POLICE will now be aware.You have overstepped yourself this time.You are advocating mob action and a criminal offense.

Zzzz wrote:

terry1965 wrote: This is excellent news for PTFC. Hopefully once the refurbishment of Branksome Rec. is finished, the club will be able to quickly climb the football ladder to be back up where they belong, which is at least Conference South level. The club have an ambitious chairman, a top manager & a good squad of players who deserve our support! Now can the nimbys in Branksome kindly STFU & accept that you lost the debate. This development is good news for the whole town! But if you don't like it, you can always move!

Don't get uppity, chum. The local residents can always make life extremely difficult for your club if they want to. Never mind: if you don't like it, you can always move!

Shane889 wrote:

John T wrote: It is no coincidence that the large mouths in support of this scheme on this site are all from Bournemouth. It is not them, but the Poole taxpayer, who will have to bail out PTFC when Mr Reeves' big ideas start going pear-shaped.

you plum, chris reeves lives in branksome, not bmouth

terry1965 wrote:

Zzzz wrote:

terry1965 wrote: This is excellent news for PTFC. Hopefully once the refurbishment of Branksome Rec. is finished, the club will be able to quickly climb the football ladder to be back up where they belong, which is at least Conference South level. The club have an ambitious chairman, a top manager & a good squad of players who deserve our support! Now can the nimbys in Branksome kindly STFU & accept that you lost the debate. This development is good news for the whole town! But if you don't like it, you can always move!

Don't get uppity, chum. The local residents can always make life extremely difficult for your club if they want to. Never mind: if you don't like it, you can always move!

Idiotic comment of the day goes to Zzzz. Well done little man. No doubt the small minority of nimbys in Branksome are happy to have such a commendable & intelligent individual fighting their battles for them!

PTFC are moving into Branksome for the benefit of the entire community & the majority of people in the area welcome it.

jingo wrote:
The local people have actually paid to live there, but their views are the last to be considered. By the way- some of these comments are a bit ahead of themselves. This still has to go to planning.

lucyconnuk wrote:
What a terrible shame. Nobody seems to care about open green spaces where people can walk, run, fly kites, exercise their dogs, play games with their children, or simply enjoy the open air and the sky. No, we have to build on everything, don't we?

lucyconnuk wrote:
What a terrible shame. Nobody seems to care about open green spaces where people can walk, run, fly kites, exercise their dogs, play games with their children, or simply enjoy the open air and the sky. No, we have to build on everything, don't we?

Zzzz wrote:
I feel that the rude, bullying attitude of so-called 'fans' like terry1965 has been really counterproductive to PTFC and its ground proposal. It's actually his sort of stupid comments that have gone a long way to antagonise local residents and cause them to sign petitions against the scheme. I'm sure that most REAL PTFC fans are actually very nice and so I wish them well.

jingo wrote:
The local people have actually paid to live there, but their views are the last to be considered. By the way- some of these comments are a bit ahead of themselves. This still has to go to planning.

terry1965 wrote:

Zzzz wrote:
I feel that the rude, bullying attitude of so-called 'fans' like terry1965 has been really counterproductive to PTFC and its ground proposal. It's actually his sort of stupid comments that have gone a long way to antagonise local residents and cause them to sign petitions against the scheme. I'm sure that most REAL PTFC fans are actually very nice and so I wish them well.

Poor Zzzz.

Can't work out who's side he's on!

You saying that residents "can always make life extremely difficult" for the club is a typical comment from the more backward thinking nimby's who are still whinging that they lost the debate.

Yet earlier Zzzz says he's broadly in favour of the development!

Make your mind up!

And if anyone has been guilty of stupid comments & antagonistic behaviour, it's the small minded nimby's of Branksome who have scare mongered fellow residents at every opportunity.

I'm delighted that they failed to thwart the aims of a forward thinking community club that are going places.

jingo wrote:
terry1965- read the comments properly! I didn't say residents weren't considered, I said our VIEWS were the last to be considered. In other words, residents views don't really count- we are just written off as NIMBYS and moaners whatever we say, as is evidenced by the posts on this page.

Zzzz wrote:

terry1965 wrote:

Zzzz wrote: I feel that the rude, bullying attitude of so-called 'fans' like terry1965 has been really counterproductive to PTFC and its ground proposal. It's actually his sort of stupid comments that have gone a long way to antagonise local residents and cause them to sign petitions against the scheme. I'm sure that most REAL PTFC fans are actually very nice and so I wish them well.

Poor Zzzz. Can't work out who's side he's on! You saying that residents "can always make life extremely difficult" for the club is a typical comment from the more backward thinking nimby's who are still whinging that they lost the debate. Yet earlier Zzzz says he's broadly in favour of the development! Make your mind up! And if anyone has been guilty of stupid comments & antagonistic behaviour, it's the small minded nimby's of Branksome who have scare mongered fellow residents at every opportunity. I'm delighted that they failed to thwart the aims of a forward thinking community club that are going places.

You're really not doing your cause any good whatsoever with this triumphalist, ‘rub the local residents' noses in it' ranting. And it might prove premature, seeing as it's still got to go through planning. Which just goes to prove that you're either not a genuine PTFC fan, or you're just plain thick!

terry1965 wrote:

jingo wrote:
terry1965- read the comments properly! I didn't say residents weren't considered, I said our VIEWS were the last to be considered. In other words, residents views don't really count- we are just written off as NIMBYS and moaners whatever we say, as is evidenced by the posts on this page.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the residents of Branksome were aware of the plans way BEFORE the council made their final decision yesterday, right?

Therefore your views WERE taken into account. End of.

Zzzz wrote:
Personally, I don't give a flying fig whether PTFC moves to the Rec or not. But it angers me when some fans start trash-talking the local residents just because the latter voiced reasonable concerns over the development of a public space near where they live. And anyone who ever moans about NIMBYism is a complete and utter hypocrite, becuse you know darn well that they too would be protesting about anything they didn't like in their back yard!

Zzzz wrote:

terry1965 wrote:

jingo wrote: terry1965- read the comments properly! I didn't say residents weren't considered, I said our VIEWS were the last to be considered. In other words, residents views don't really count- we are just written off as NIMBYS and moaners whatever we say, as is evidenced by the posts on this page.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the residents of Branksome were aware of the plans way BEFORE the council made their final decision yesterday, right? Therefore your views WERE taken into account. End of.

Not necessarily. Just because you tell people about a proposed development doesn't mean you'll take their view into consideration.

pzazz wrote:

Shane889 wrote:

John T wrote: It is no coincidence that the large mouths in support of this scheme on this site are all from Bournemouth. It is not them, but the Poole taxpayer, who will have to bail out PTFC when Mr Reeves' big ideas start going pear-shaped.

you plum, chris reeves lives in branksome, not bmouth

Well, i don't want to be petty, but I don't think we should all think Mr reeves lives in a part of Branksome that is any where near Branksome recreation ground. He lives in The Avenue, in Branksome Park which I think you'll find is classed as Bournemouth. If he lived on Recreation road branksome, Poole I don't think he would have been so in favour of a stadium being built right in front of his eyes!! I was at the meeting last night, and I found no reasoned argument for the proposal. Councillor Brown had had taken the time and trouble to meet up with those who control canford Arena and they said they would be very happy to have ptfc there. This was not what mr reeves had led us all to believe at the scrutiny meeting. I believe if an independent on looker had had to come in and make the final decision last night, on the basis of what he heard from both sides, he would have chosen to reject the proposal . those against gave very good fact based and reasoned arguments, whereas those for it gave reasons which made no sense at all. AND STILL NO AREAS OF THE REC ALLOCATED FOR PARKING????

terry1965 wrote:

Zzzz wrote:

terry1965 wrote:

jingo wrote: terry1965- read the comments properly! I didn't say residents weren't considered, I said our VIEWS were the last to be considered. In other words, residents views don't really count- we are just written off as NIMBYS and moaners whatever we say, as is evidenced by the posts on this page.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the residents of Branksome were aware of the plans way BEFORE the council made their final decision yesterday, right? Therefore your views WERE taken into account. End of.

Not necessarily. Just because you tell people about a proposed development doesn't mean you'll take their view into consideration.

Utterly wrong!
Next...

pete woodley wrote:
Cllr david brown,where have you suddenly sprung from,first time i and i am sure many others have heard from you,brownie points to be won is there,why no mention of this before from you,wouldnt be politics again would it,at least you will be easy to find and debate with.

Zzzz wrote:

terry1965 wrote: This is excellent news for PTFC. Hopefully once the refurbishment of Branksome Rec. is finished, the club will be able to quickly climb the football ladder to be back up where they belong, which is at least Conference South level. The club have an ambitious chairman, a top manager & a good squad of players who deserve our support! Now can the nimbys in Branksome kindly STFU & accept that you lost the debate. This development is good news for the whole town! But if you don't like it, you can always move!

Don't get uppity, chum. The local residents can always make life extremely difficult for your club if they want to. Never mind: if you don't like it, you can always move!

RRYFS wrote:
The Avenue, in Branksome Park which I think you'll find is classed as Bournemouth I think you'll find it isn't!

John T wrote:

Shane889 wrote:

John T wrote: It is no coincidence that the large mouths in support of this scheme on this site are all from Bournemouth. It is not them, but the Poole taxpayer, who will have to bail out PTFC when Mr Reeves' big ideas start going pear-shaped.

you plum, chris reeves lives in branksome, not bmouth

Reeves lives in Branksome Park, which is as similar to Branksome as Canford Cliffs is to Canford Heath. When you are intelligent enough to read and write properly, you will see that,nowhere did I make any reference to Reeves living in Bournemouth.

lucyconnuk wrote:
What a terrible shame. Nobody seems to care about open green spaces where people can walk, run, fly kites, exercise their dogs, play games with their children, or simply enjoy the open air and the sky. No, we have to build on everything, don't we?

PoisonedPen wrote:
I think I am going to start going to PTFC games every week when they are at Branksome. I'm going to buy a pickup truck so I can take up as much space parking as I can. ..and I'm going to bring a drum and an airhorn with me. Maybe even some flares. We can start the PTFC Ultras - tifosi, the works. I might even drink some beer. Hah.

CC C-siders wrote:

PoisonedPen wrote: I think I am going to start going to PTFC games every week when they are at Branksome. I'm going to buy a pickup truck so I can take up as much space parking as I can. ..and I'm going to bring a drum and an airhorn with me. Maybe even some flares. We can start the PTFC Ultras - tifosi, the works. I might even drink some beer. Hah.

Brilliant! Love it. The PTFC Ultras - count me in. I can just see us progressing up the leagues and playing Leeds, Millwall, West Ham etc. Great fun! But where will away fans coaches park? Like Bournemoth Gas works FC all over again...only this time with music! PTFC Ultras rule!

CC C-siders wrote:

CC C-siders wrote:

PoisonedPen wrote: I think I am going to start going to PTFC games every week when they are at Branksome. I'm going to buy a pickup truck so I can take up as much space parking as I can. ..and I'm going to bring a drum and an airhorn with me. Maybe even some flares. We can start the PTFC Ultras - tifosi, the works. I might even drink some beer. Hah.

Brilliant! Love it. The PTFC Ultras - count me in. I can just see us progressing up the leagues and playing Leeds, Millwall, West Ham etc. Great fun! But where will away fans coaches park? Like Bournemoth Gas works FC all over again...only this time with music! PTFC Ultras rule!

Hey Poisoned, just imagine the music and spectacular display of flares at the late night mid-week home games in that perfect auditorium!.

Can't wait to see it!

Canival time!

Shane889 wrote:
erm, we are not yobs. why dont you give us a chance to prove you wrong, JAK

CC C-siders wrote:

lucyconnuk wrote:
What a terrible shame. Nobody seems to care about open green spaces where people can walk, run, fly kites, exercise their dogs, play games with their children, or simply enjoy the open air and the sky. No, we have to build on everything, don't we?

Of course, mustn't forget the poor old dogs must we!
Thats just about all the Rec seems to beused for these days - dog walkers, with their dogs fouling the playing fields that others would like to allow their kids to play on and sporting events to be held on.
Let's have a vote on keeping dogs off the Rec!!

terry1965 wrote:

Zzzz wrote:
Personally, I don't give a flying fig whether PTFC moves to the Rec or not. But it angers me when some fans start trash-talking the local residents just because the latter voiced reasonable concerns over the development of a public space near where they live. And anyone who ever moans about NIMBYism is a complete and utter hypocrite, becuse you know darn well that they too would be protesting about anything they didn't like in their back yard!

Sure sign that you're losing it Zzzz!

Now you don't give a "flying fig" about PTFC's plans. If so, why have you been on here moaning about it all day?

As for "trash talking" the local residents, well I'm sorry, but the one's guilty of that were the scare mongering nimbys. Yes nimbys Zzzz. No point you moaning about nimbys being hypocrites when YOU would be one of them too!

The local residents in Branksome were consulted. They knew exactly what PTFC were proposing. All objections were noted prior to the full Council meeting approved the plans. That's the way it works ok!

Shane889 wrote:

John T wrote:

Shane889 wrote:

John T wrote: It is no coincidence that the large mouths in support of this scheme on this site are all from Bournemouth. It is not them, but the Poole taxpayer, who will have to bail out PTFC when Mr Reeves' big ideas start going pear-shaped.

you plum, chris reeves lives in branksome, not bmouth

Reeves lives in Branksome Park, which is as similar to Branksome as Canford Cliffs is to Canford Heath. When you are intelligent enough to read and write properly, you will see that,nowhere did I make any reference to Reeves living in Bournemouth.

well, seeing as you stated that it would be "poole taxpayers" who would bail out the club when "mr reeves plans failed" then it's fair to point out that he is a "poole taxpayer". also you put that its people frok bournemouth who are all for it, and he lives in poole. as do many of the pro groups. when YOU'RE more intelligent i will allow you a rebuttle. That is all

Zzzz wrote:

Shane889 wrote:

John T wrote:

Shane889 wrote:

John T wrote: It is no coincidence that the large mouths in support of this scheme on this site are all from Bournemouth. It is not them, but the Poole taxpayer, who will have to bail out PTFC when Mr Reeves' big ideas start going pear-shaped.

you plum, chris reeves lives in branksome, not bmouth

Reeves lives in Branksome Park, which is as similar to Branksome as Canford Cliffs is to Canford Heath. When you are intelligent enough to read and write properly, you will see that,nowhere did I make any reference to Reeves living in Bournemouth.

well, seeing as you stated that it would be "poole taxpayers" who would bail out the club when "mr reeves plans failed" then it's fair to point out that he is a "poole taxpayer". also you put that its people frok bournemouth who are all for it, and he lives in poole. as do many of the pro groups. when YOU'RE more intelligent i will allow you a rebuttle. That is all

Further proof of the arrogance of certain 'fans' (if you can call them that) here. Shane889 is a disgrace to the club he claims to support. All decent PTFC fans should shun this sad little man.

Zzzz wrote:

terry1965 wrote:

Zzzz wrote: Personally, I don't give a flying fig whether PTFC moves to the Rec or not. But it angers me when some fans start trash-talking the local residents just because the latter voiced reasonable concerns over the development of a public space near where they live. And anyone who ever moans about NIMBYism is a complete and utter hypocrite, becuse you know darn well that they too would be protesting about anything they didn't like in their back yard!

Sure sign that you're losing it Zzzz! Now you don't give a "flying fig" about PTFC's plans. If so, why have you been on here moaning about it all day? As for "trash talking" the local residents, well I'm sorry, but the one's guilty of that were the scare mongering nimbys. Yes nimbys Zzzz. No point you moaning about nimbys being hypocrites when YOU would be one of them too! The local residents in Branksome were consulted. They knew exactly what PTFC were proposing. All objections were noted prior to the full Council meeting approved the plans. That's the way it works ok!

I didn't say that NIMBYs were hypocrites, I said that anyone complaining about NIMBYism was a hypocrite. And you are the one guilty of antagonising the local residents. I don't consider an opening gambit of 'shut the f*** up' very friendly. Do you? Yes, the Branksome residents were consulted, but it doesn't mean their views were actually taken into consideration regarding the decision. Then there's all this funny business about whether Canford Park Arena would indeed welcome the club. If you really believe that PTFC could climb up the leagues, why would you even want to move to the Rec rather than Canford Park Arena? Surely in a few years' time the Rec won't be adequate?

Zzzz wrote:

Zzzz wrote:

Shane889 wrote:

John T wrote:

Shane889 wrote:

John T wrote: It is no coincidence that the large mouths in support of this scheme on this site are all from Bournemouth. It is not them, but the Poole taxpayer, who will have to bail out PTFC when Mr Reeves' big ideas start going pear-shaped.

you plum, chris reeves lives in branksome, not bmouth

Reeves lives in Branksome Park, which is as similar to Branksome as Canford Cliffs is to Canford Heath. When you are intelligent enough to read and write properly, you will see that,nowhere did I make any reference to Reeves living in Bournemouth.

well, seeing as you stated that it would be "poole taxpayers" who would bail out the club when "mr reeves plans failed" then it's fair to point out that he is a "poole taxpayer". also you put that its people frok bournemouth who are all for it, and he lives in poole. as do many of the pro groups. when YOU'RE more intelligent i will allow you a rebuttle. That is all

Further proof of the arrogance of certain 'fans' (if you can call them that) here. Shane889 is a disgrace to the club he claims to support. All decent PTFC fans should shun this sad little man.

Sorry, Shane 889. Please accept my sincere apologies. I got you mixed up with someone else. I'm going to STFU now.

spurs wrote:
The moving of PTFC to Canford Magna issue, never has been or never will be found suitable, despite Clr Edeas telling you otherwise, you CAN NOT have floodlights for football on green belt land (Ham Rec FC who play there have been trying for years)The floodlights Edeas refer's to already in situ are for five a side / tennis court type of activities, lighting which is not acceptable for PTFC needs, as laid down by the FA.
All options at Canford were addressed and it became apparent very early to be an impossible option, instead of Mr Edeas telling us this person or that person said this or that about welcoming PTFC at Canford, if it was possible for Canford to be an option should he as a Clr not have driven this forward to council as an option, with REAL evidence??? he knows it is not a real option, but never let the truth get in the way of a good story!!
Instead of every one "**** on here" why oh why after a democratic vote in which one side was always going to be disappointed, it was open and fair despite the silly accusations on here, do those campaigners against the proposal not now "join forces" with PTFC and actually turn a negative into a positive by having an impute into the refurbishment at the Rec, PTFC have stated many times they would welcome this to appease everyone where possible? It is up to you!!