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'DOCTOR DEATH' HOLDS BOURNEMOUTH SUICIDE WORKSHOPS


A CONTROVERSIAL euthanasia campaigner dubbed Dr Death will hold suicide workshops at a hotel in Bournemouth next week.

Dr Philip Nitschke has defended plans for the sessions at Hamilton Hall in Boscombe, a venue used by gay naturists, claiming: “It is often people who have experienced social repression who can best understand and identify with our cause.”

The move has been condemned by Roman Catholic leaders in Bournemouth.

But Hamilton Hall boss John Bellamy pledged to go ahead with Dr Death’s lessons in euthanasia the public meetings and workshops on Tuesday and added: “Trouble is, we have had too many centuries of religious claptrap.”

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Australian activist Dr Nitschke attempted to hold workshops in Bournemouth last year but was forced to abandon his plans after venues cancelled his bookings when they realised what the workshops were about. He gives advice on what he considers to be the best ways to commit suicide.

But this year Mr Bellamy has pledged to allow the meetings to continue, even if they are opposed by members of the public.

“There needs to be a reshaping of people’s education and beliefs around such a subject” he said. “It seems we demand humans to live with indignity, pain and anguish whereas we are kinder to our pets when their suffering becomes too much – it simply is not logical or mature.”

Speaking from Darwin, Australia, Dr Nitschke said: “It seems those opposing the right of elderly Britons to access end-of-life information went out of their way to close the meetings down in 2008.

“This time we have been very pleased to have the support of Mr Bellamy, who has made it clear they will not bow to pressure by those who want to censor the meetings.”

Father Anthony Pennicott, of the Sacred Heart Church in Richmond Hill, opposed the workshops and said: “From the Christian point of view we believe that human life is created by God and that an individual’s life therefore belongs to God.”

He voiced fears that vulnerable people could be at risk if euthanasia was legalised. “Allowing voluntary euthanasia is likely to place vulnerable people in danger of being manipulated and pressurised by people who think they know best or who have ulterior motives to end their life.”

Hamilton Hall, Carysfort Road, Boscombe, advertises itself as “a retreat for the 21st century, exclusively for gay and bisexual men” and a “clothing optional” venue.

The meetings and workshops are due to be held between 10am and 1pm on Tuesday. Similar events are also planned for venues in Brighton, Stroud and Glasgow.


Comments(27)

2Much...again! says...
8:19am Thu 30 Apr 09

Firstly, this man is obviously making money out of holding meetings like this.
Secondly, if someone is ill, and living with pain for example, I believe it's every person's right to choose whether they end this sooner rather than later..I know I would, so it should be a one on one meeting, not a "workshop".
Thirdly, this man could also hold workshops on how to pull people out of such desperation instead of giving false hope, as this country is very unlikely to change the laws on euthanasia.

The article also mentions suicide..and he says himself: "It is often people who have experienced social repression who can best understand and identify with our cause"...these people need support to live with discrimination, not chit chats on how to end it all.

What a load of rubbish..and ECHO..anyone dies as a result of these seminars, I would say well done for publishing times and places. You fell right into his hands!

Security word: rise-again

K9F says...
8:42am Thu 30 Apr 09

What on earth has gay naturists got to do with the subject matter? From a personal perspective and for what it is worth my mother sadly passed away January this year from pancreatic cancer. Once informed that the cancer was too advanced for treatment my mother was in fact under ‘sentence of death.’ Despite the hospital doing everything it could to ‘make her comfortable,’ physically and psychologically for my mother it tore her apart. Several times she expressed a strong desire to ‘go,’ and in her own words “As God has decided to take me I pray every morning that he takes me quickly! If I could end it myself I would!” Four weeks later she passed away. My mother was also a Catholic! Dr Philip Nitschke deserves at the very least the opportunity to deliver his presentation to those that may be interested in what he has to say.

2Much...again! says...
9:07am Thu 30 Apr 09

K9F wrote:
What on earth has gay naturists got to do with the subject matter? From a personal perspective and for what it is worth my mother sadly passed away January this year from pancreatic cancer. Once informed that the cancer was too advanced for treatment my mother was in fact under ‘sentence of death.’ Despite the hospital doing everything it could to ‘make her comfortable,’ physically and psychologically for my mother it tore her apart. Several times she expressed a strong desire to ‘go,’ and in her own words “As God has decided to take me I pray every morning that he takes me quickly! If I could end it myself I would!” Four weeks later she passed away. My mother was also a Catholic! Dr Philip Nitschke deserves at the very least the opportunity to deliver his presentation to those that may be interested in what he has to say.
"Dr Philip Nitschke deserves at the very least the opportunity to deliver his presentation to those that may be interested in what he has to say"

Don't you think he might have a website where people can contact him. Do you think that he should be holding workshops on how to kill yourself? This isn't just about terminally ill people is it?

"He gives advice on what he considers to be the best ways to commit suicide"

I'm sorry you lost your Mum. This is what I believe, in that circumstance there should be something you can do if you so choose, but suicide workshops?

ry8000 says...
9:48am Thu 30 Apr 09

I personally believe in free speech. People may not agree with what this man has to say, and that's fine. If individuals of certain religions can (with government and community acceptance) stand on the streets condemning white people to death, then I think this is surely a non-issue.

People should have their right to voice their opinions, and others should have the right to chose to ignore it. This is being held in a private venue, so if you don't agree with it, don't go and stop complaining!

Problem solved.

Zzzz says...
10:04am Thu 30 Apr 09

I understand that Dr Nitschke wants to help terminally ill people to die with dignity, but I'm concerned that the euthanasia method he espouses could be used by suicidally depressed people, or even those seeking to murder others (if it is undetectable, as he claims).

ry8000 says...
10:35am Thu 30 Apr 09

Zzzz wrote:
I understand that Dr Nitschke wants to help terminally ill people to die with dignity, but I'm concerned that the euthanasia method he espouses could be used by suicidally depressed people, or even those seeking to murder others (if it is undetectable, as he claims).
So we should all be censored? This information is freely available on the internet, so banning a meeting will do nothing to stop a determined person from obtaining this knowledge.

Please, let's not lose more of our freedoms!

Emulated says...
10:38am Thu 30 Apr 09

Its not a question of means in being able to die, there are enough drugs to finish a person off in seconds. Its the courage that is required to end ones life in dignity and with loved ones close by to help the passing. We don't need workshops on how to end it all. We need legislation to make it legal and massive support from the medical profession to assist when help is asked for. Better for professional help, even for those who are depressed and suicidal, rather than desperate means which causes further distress and suffering for all.

vik says...
11:04am Thu 30 Apr 09

For those of you who don't agree the answer to this is simple - don't go to the workshop!!! Having watched memebers of my family suffer agonising and expensive treatment and not pull through i think that euthanasia should be an individual's own choice.

ry8000 says...
11:12am Thu 30 Apr 09

vik wrote:
For those of you who don't agree the answer to this is simple - don't go to the workshop!!! Having watched memebers of my family suffer agonising and expensive treatment and not pull through i think that euthanasia should be an individual's own choice.
Couldn't agree more.

Unfortunately, some people have very little empathy, and have very subjective views which they feel they need to impose upon everyone else.

If they were to experience that kind of pain and indignity first hand, they might think differently...

Laurie Marsh says...
12:17pm Thu 30 Apr 09

Agonising deaths have been going on for as long as there have been people living on this earth.
I have seen a few and of course it hurts.
The question has to be asked, if euthanasia is the answer, why after all of these centuries is it still not legal?
The people who make the laws that govern us are always old and they all would have seen painful deaths, so why would they not en-act the law to ensure their own painless passing?
Maybe they have all seen a wannabe Hitler!
THEN THEY CAME FOR ME?
I dunno, any suggestions?

AndyBournemouth says...
12:24pm Thu 30 Apr 09

If someone wants to die with dignity - that be their choice. But to suggest that Hamilton Hall is making large amounts of money out of it are mistaken. Anyone can hire the venue for £50 for the morning! It's the media that's giving H/Hall all the free publicity that needs to be questioned... Well done John!

sarlane says...
12:47pm Thu 30 Apr 09

Just who has dubbed this man "Doctor Death"? Is it the Echo being sensationalist again? As others have said, what this man is advocating is freely available on the internet and if you don;t like what he says, don't go to the workshop. Simple.

Laurie Marsh says...
12:56pm Thu 30 Apr 09

sarlane wrote:
Just who has dubbed this man "Doctor Death"? Is it the Echo being sensationalist again? As others have said, what this man is advocating is freely available on the internet and if you don;t like what he says, don't go to the workshop. Simple.
That name has been around for years.
Some journo in Aust. made it up years ago.

djd says...
1:01pm Thu 30 Apr 09

This man has the right to speak whatever views anyone may hold on his beliefs.
The answer is quite simple, if you don't want to listen to what he as to say or it is against what you believe - don't go.
He has an internet site where anyone can read what he has to say.
As I understand, free speech is still a going concern in this country.
Personally, I don't agree with him, but that's my view.

silky says...
2:21pm Thu 30 Apr 09

Crumbs I just looked at the Hamilton Hall website! *blushes*

Emulated says...
3:57pm Thu 30 Apr 09

silky wrote:
Crumbs I just looked at the Hamilton Hall website! *blushes*
Can't think of a better place to hold such a workshop. All those attending will have a gay time.

WIGGINSv says...
5:26pm Thu 30 Apr 09

With this terrible goverment, a lot of people are losing the will to live, so, he will probably have a packed meeting.

PokesdownMark says...
5:27pm Thu 30 Apr 09

I would not expect the echo to seek comment on a financial story from an economic extremist (eg anti-capitalist) who would simply want all banks to be destroyed.

It would also be pointless to seek comment on a flu story from an anti-vivisection extremist who opposed production of swine flu vaccine because it requires animal testing.

So why get a comment from a religious extremist who, as they always do, makes blanket and baseless statements based on their nonsensical beliefs and expects everyone else to fall into line.

Ok so the mythologically confused do deserve a platform. But where is the balance? How about getting comment from a local cancer specialist? Or a senior nurse from Marie Curie? They really understand the subject and actually implement existing protocols that dealing with dying patients.

And whats this homophobic angle? Why is that relevant? It just looks like poorly disguised gutter journalism using smear by association. Shame. I know the echo is only a local paper. But COME ON!

dopey says...
5:28pm Thu 30 Apr 09

For those who choose this path to end their suffering, could there be some way of helping others with organ donation? (remembering some organs may be damaged by the choice of euthanasia method)

Emulated says...
7:49pm Thu 30 Apr 09

dopey wrote:
For those who choose this path to end their suffering, could there be some way of helping others with organ donation? (remembering some organs may be damaged by the choice of euthanasia method)
I think those deciding in ending their life would find making such decisions rather difficult.

Vikki27 says...
10:07pm Thu 30 Apr 09

Omg I just looked at the Hamilton Hall webpage!! Hahaha!!!!! More power to them I say!

As for the subject in hand...I agree whole-heartedly with euthanasai. Given the choice between a long and painful death or dying with dignity, I'd like to think I'd go for the latter.

However, I'm *VERY* concerned that these workshops will be providing those suffering from severe depression what are essentially 'tips' on the best ways to end their lives.

For people with depression, there is ALWAYS hope for recovery, even if they don't see it. Euthanasia should only be sought as an option for those with terminal illnesses.

EGHH says...
6:24am Fri 1 May 09

My 96 year old mother is suffering from dementia.She no longer can speak, is double incontinent, does not recognise me and has trouble feeding herself. She has no quality of life. I just hope that if I get like that the Govt has legalised euthanasia. My father's death was caused by cancer of the prostrate at 83 years old. The doctors dosed him up with increasing amounts of morphine which I'm sure helped him to die peacefully. What is the difference between that and euthanasia?

AndyBournemouth says...
7:54am Fri 1 May 09

DR DEATH, I think not! More like ANGEL OF MERCY!!!

Zzzz says...
9:51am Fri 1 May 09

ry8000 wrote:
Zzzz wrote:
I understand that Dr Nitschke wants to help terminally ill people to die with dignity, but I'm concerned that the euthanasia method he espouses could be used by suicidally depressed people, or even those seeking to murder others (if it is undetectable, as he claims).
So we should all be censored? This information is freely available on the internet, so banning a meeting will do nothing to stop a determined person from obtaining this knowledge.

Please, let's not lose more of our freedoms!
If the information is freely available on the internet, why does Dr Nitschke need to give such talks at all? There's something creepy about the way he travels around the world actively promoting methods of suicide.

AMAZEDGUY says...
11:11am Fri 1 May 09

Good for Hamilton Hall and good for a gay man standing firm and allowing this workshop to continue. Many may have folded in the past and caved in to pressure against this workshop, but if everyone caved in at the first sign of trouble, then the gay community would still be in the closet, women would not have the vote, there would be no Anti War Marches and we really would be a society of brainwashed morons. Good for John Bellamy and Hamilton Hall and as we can all read from the comments here, the overwhelming opinion is one of support.

So Evening Echo and your attempts to stir up trouble yet again, seems your readers see things a little differently.

2Much...again! says...
4:48pm Fri 1 May 09

Vikki27 wrote:
Omg I just looked at the Hamilton Hall webpage!! Hahaha!!!!! More power to them I say!

As for the subject in hand...I agree whole-heartedly with euthanasai. Given the choice between a long and painful death or dying with dignity, I'd like to think I'd go for the latter.

However, I'm *VERY* concerned that these workshops will be providing those suffering from severe depression what are essentially 'tips' on the best ways to end their lives.

For people with depression, there is ALWAYS hope for recovery, even if they don't see it. Euthanasia should only be sought as an option for those with terminal illnesses.
My point exactly...well put!

poolebabe says...
5:51pm Mon 4 May 09

This is a difficult and sensitive subject. I can see all sides having witnessed people I love dying from Cancer and spending a long time looking after people with dementia. I think it should be down to personal choice. I think legislation is difficult because a line has to be drawn but where do you draw it? Plenty of people with Dementia for example, do have a quality of life, blissfully unaware of their illness, happy in their own little world, it's the familiy who are distressed.(Understa
ndably so) On the other hand there are people with Dementia who are tortured souls, and it's agonising watching them live each day so distressed with their confusion, lack of mobility and inability to express how they are feeling, and it might be the family who hang on to the hope of a better day tomorrow, a cure or just want to hang onto their loved ones. How do you legislate on who should die? It really is an incredibly complex area, but I am all for those who can make their own informed choices, should be able to do so in the right way. By giving people the information, it may help those live the rest of their lives in comfort knowing there is a way out when things get to a point where they can no longer tollerate their lives. I watched so called "Dr Death" on sunday questions, and he put forward a good argument. Do you just rely on people jumping in front of a train and all the consequences involved in that?? Councelling and information is vital. Sadly, you will never stop those people who impulsively decide to end their own lives.


WORKSHOPS: Dr Philip Nitschke – dubbed Doctor Death – will hold sessions on the subject of euthanasia at Hamilton Hall in Boscombe WORKSHOPS: Dr Philip Nitschke – dubbed Doctor Death – will hold sessions on the subject of euthanasia at Hamilton Hall in Boscombe

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