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2:00pm Wednesday 18th March 2009 in
THE Spur Road was completely blocked southbound on Wednesday after a car overturned on the A338 - some motorists were stuck in the jam for four hours.
The A338 was shut southbound between the B3073 Blackwater junction bridge and the Cooper Dean flyover, heading to Bournemouth.
A woman and a six-month-old baby were in a blue Renault Clio which ended up on its roof, at around 7.10am in lane one southbound.
The driver got herself and the child out of the vehicle. There were two ambulances at the scene, and because they were in lane two, police closed the road. There was also debris on the road. The carriageway was finally re-opened at around 10.50am.
The driver has suspected back and whiplash injuries and the baby has a suspected foot injury.
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Comments(78)
blue-eyes
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10:52am Wed 18 Mar 09
IFADave wrote:I heard about the accident on local radio around 7.30am and left hoping to avoid the inevitable traffic problems on my way in to Bournemouth. I did, thankfully. I just hope the baby is ok. Unlike some, if the road is closed for an ambulance to attend to an injured baby, I would have to say that I'd rather the road was closed and I was late for work, than to think that I considered myself and my employer more important than the life a small baby!
having spent over an Hour in the car this morning for what normally takes 15 mins, i was under the impression a fatalaty had occured on the spur road and fully understood the delays. After getting to work and finiding out that the car has merely been in an accident with the occupants having minor injuries, what are the police playing at closing the spur road for so long and causing massive traffic problems. They really need to get their act together as their must have been withensses at the time of the accident who would have stopped.
pliglet
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11:01am Wed 18 Mar 09
IFADave
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11:27am Wed 18 Mar 09
blue-eyes wrote:I fully apreciate what your saying, but it doesnt take 4 hours to get an ambulance clear of the accident. The ambulance was on the scene within 20 mins. Surely the road could have been reopened within 1hr, 1 and half maximum. NOT 4 HOURS.
IFADave wrote: having spent over an Hour in the car this morning for what normally takes 15 mins, i was under the impression a fatalaty had occured on the spur road and fully understood the delays. After getting to work and finiding out that the car has merely been in an accident with the occupants having minor injuries, what are the police playing at closing the spur road for so long and causing massive traffic problems. They really need to get their act together as their must have been withensses at the time of the accident who would have stopped.I heard about the accident on local radio around 7.30am and left hoping to avoid the inevitable traffic problems on my way in to Bournemouth. I did, thankfully. I just hope the baby is ok. Unlike some, if the road is closed for an ambulance to attend to an injured baby, I would have to say that I'd rather the road was closed and I was late for work, than to think that I considered myself and my employer more important than the life a small baby!
Julian Davies
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11:33am Wed 18 Mar 09
djd
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11:35am Wed 18 Mar 09
Lord Spring
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11:41am Wed 18 Mar 09
Oldalbanian
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11:43am Wed 18 Mar 09
grimreaper
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12:23pm Wed 18 Mar 09
terry1965
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12:27pm Wed 18 Mar 09
addenuf
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12:39pm Wed 18 Mar 09
The_Thinker
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12:46pm Wed 18 Mar 09
ben111
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12:47pm Wed 18 Mar 09
terry1965
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12:57pm Wed 18 Mar 09
ben111 wrote:Does anyone have a gibberish to English dictionary?
Just to let people know i was on my way up the spur road , and i saw the car on the other side on its roof i could not tell the make of it , it looked that bad , So if one of you lot were in a crash like that and you wanted to find out what happend and who contacted who plus the recovery of the driver and baby , then the recovery of the vehicle ... its a hard life .. an opnion is always good but try and get some more facts before throwing the toys out of the pram .10 people will die on the roads today , we cant have that if we are going to miss a few hours of work out of my whole life...
ben111
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1:00pm Wed 18 Mar 09
grimreaper
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1:01pm Wed 18 Mar 09
miltonarchers
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1:19pm Wed 18 Mar 09
Peggy Babcock
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1:32pm Wed 18 Mar 09
ukdragon
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1:33pm Wed 18 Mar 09
GAHmusic
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1:48pm Wed 18 Mar 09
grimreaper
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1:48pm Wed 18 Mar 09
s'news you loose
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2:22pm Wed 18 Mar 09
grimreaper
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2:26pm Wed 18 Mar 09
Tig
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2:30pm Wed 18 Mar 09
grimreaper wrote:Ah, but it could have been a male driver that caused her to have the accident!
"Could have been a multitude of things that caused the car to be on its roof "
NO it was a woman !!
ry8000
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2:33pm Wed 18 Mar 09
Lord Spring wrote:Not wishing to be pedantic, but the quote is actually "more speed, less haste"... the complete opposite of what you said. And with that in mind, the old saying is true. Speed probably wasn't the issue here... more likely, stupid driving, but speed cameras don't notice that.
Can we blame it on snow and ice or a narrow winding road ? , More haste less speed on old saying but how true!!
grimreaper
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2:36pm Wed 18 Mar 09
K9F
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2:53pm Wed 18 Mar 09
Tig
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2:54pm Wed 18 Mar 09
grimreaper wrote:You know the type: car with too much power, which isn't needed because they are always driving below the speed limit; wearing a flat cap; oblivious to anyone else on the roads....
"Ah, but it could have been a male driver that caused her to have the accident!" HOW ???
ry8000
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2:58pm Wed 18 Mar 09
Tig wrote:Man or woman, someone was obviously being a complete prat to end up in that situation today... it's surprisingly difficult to roll a car over!!
grimreaper wrote: "Ah, but it could have been a male driver that caused her to have the accident!" HOW ???You know the type: car with too much power, which isn't needed because they are always driving below the speed limit; wearing a flat cap; oblivious to anyone else on the roads.... Women don't have the monopoly on bad driving, you know!
animalchick
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3:02pm Wed 18 Mar 09
grimreaper
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3:06pm Wed 18 Mar 09
ry8000
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3:08pm Wed 18 Mar 09
animalchick wrote:I completely agree, there are a lot of morons out there. And the problem is, rather than having police patrol the road, we have an ever increasing selection of speed cameras, but they can't catch bad drivers. I blame the government for that mess!! Problem is, people only see speeding as the problem, and that's what we've all been brainwashed into believing.
I live in Ringwood and travel to B'mth on the Spur Road every day, four times a day (morning rush hour to/from B'mth and evening rush hour to/from B'mth). My son goes to school in B'mth and we are on the waiting list for a Ringwood school. I can't begin to tell you of the number of insane and reckless driving incidents I witness every day and suffice to say I'm not at all surprised to have been involved in the delays of this morning. A large majority of local motorists are aggressive, selfish and uncooperative drivers who randomly swap lanes more times that Paris Hilton changes boyfriends and refuse to give way to any poor motorist who tries to join the Spur Road at the Blackwater junction. I'm relieved to hear that the passengers from this morning's incident are both ok, and I don't know if anyone else was involved, but I have to agree with most writers' comments that a 4 hour closure is ridiculous, made worse by the lack of traffic control in surrounding areas. A final note to all the arrogant, egotistical, mindless, risk taking drivers I have the misfortune of being near each day.......I'll be reading stories of major road incidents again in the future, only this time it will be YOUR names mentioned.
s'news you loose
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3:09pm Wed 18 Mar 09
grimreaper wrote:
"Women don't have the monopoly on bad driving, you know!" Can we take a poll on this please ??
animalchick
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3:11pm Wed 18 Mar 09
grimreaper
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3:12pm Wed 18 Mar 09
snoopy62
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3:12pm Wed 18 Mar 09
animalchick
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3:16pm Wed 18 Mar 09
grimreaper wrote:No I'm not and how does that question contribute to this discussion?
animalchick, Ringwood says "A final note to all the arrogant, egotistical, mindless, risk taking drivers I have the misfortune of being near each day.......I'll be reading stories of major road incidents again in the future, only this time it will be YOUR names mention" Are you blonde ?
animalchick
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3:22pm Wed 18 Mar 09
snoopy62 wrote:I challenge you to avoid an idiot travelling at 65mph who is veering towards the passenger side of your car in order to get into a 5ft wide gap in front of you during rush hour!
Maybe the police keep the roads closed so long after incidents like this to show the on lookers what stuipity behind the wheel causes!! Whatever the cause if you drive sensibly you dont end up rolling your car and maybe if people were a bit more aware of other road users (no matter how rubbish they are) they would be able to avoid them.
s'news you loose
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3:25pm Wed 18 Mar 09
grimreaper
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3:26pm Wed 18 Mar 09
snoopy62
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3:27pm Wed 18 Mar 09
animalchick
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3:30pm Wed 18 Mar 09
grimreaper wrote:Not at all, I could see it was the kind of comment made to purposely try and wind someone up!
Touched a nerve then ?? Basic evolution, survival of the fitest, Darwin !!
animalchick
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3:36pm Wed 18 Mar 09
snoopy62 wrote:Fair comment, and you've hit the nail on the head when saying that the police want people to see what chaos stupid driving causes. It was probably their tenth incident by that time already!
point taken animalchick, but I was being specific to this mornings incident. Like I said if people didnt drive like selfish idiots (ie 65mph towards your passenger side) these accidents wouldnt happen. Bit like the nutters reversing up the grass verge on the incident side of the A338 this morning to turn around at the ashley heath roundabout!!! Total lack of courtesy for other road users
grimreaper
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3:37pm Wed 18 Mar 09
police
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4:01pm Wed 18 Mar 09
addenuf
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4:02pm Wed 18 Mar 09
grimreaper
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4:14pm Wed 18 Mar 09
animalchick
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4:18pm Wed 18 Mar 09
police wrote:I am genuinely appreciative of the fact that a full investigation takes place...But to close the whole carriageway for 4 hours? Surely, for the sake of general public welfare, can there not be a more efficient alternative? Local schools, businesses and transportation were majorly affected today. Are you saying that we should resign ourselves to this on a weekly basis? Because that's how often it has been lately.
Sergeant Nikki Burt of the Ferndown traffic department said: "The eight month old baby boy travelling in the car with his 19-year old mother from Bournemouth sustained a serious foot injury and was taken to Poole Hospital before being transferred to the Salisbury District Hospital at Odstock for specialist treatment. His mother sustained minor injuries. "Public safety and the highest quality of investigations at road traffic collisions are the top priorities of Dorset Police which does not take the decision to close a road lightly and always seeks to act in a proprortionate, thorough and appropriate manner. "Dorset Police has a duty to investigate road traffic collisions and the closure of a short section of the southbound carriageway of the A338 spur road between Blackwater and Cooper Dean was necessary until the full extent of the baby's injuries were established because that determined the level of investigation. There is only one opportunity to secure evidence. "The whole carriageway was closed to ensure the safety of the public and the emergency services at the scene because, in the past, road traffic collisions have been caused by drivers looking at the aftermath of a road traffic collision instead of concentrating on the road ahead. "Officers are acutely aware and mindful of the potential for traffic delays and the consequences to the travelling public. Dorset Police is always appreciative of the public's patience at the scene of road traffic collisions," explained Sergeant Burt.
djd
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4:25pm Wed 18 Mar 09
police wrote:Well done Dorset Police for commenting on some of the comments on this blog.
Sergeant Nikki Burt of the Ferndown traffic department said: "The eight month old baby boy travelling in the car with his 19-year old mother from Bournemouth sustained a serious foot injury and was taken to Poole Hospital before being transferred to the Salisbury District Hospital at Odstock for specialist treatment. His mother sustained minor injuries. "Public safety and the highest quality of investigations at road traffic collisions are the top priorities of Dorset Police which does not take the decision to close a road lightly and always seeks to act in a proprortionate, thorough and appropriate manner. "Dorset Police has a duty to investigate road traffic collisions and the closure of a short section of the southbound carriageway of the A338 spur road between Blackwater and Cooper Dean was necessary until the full extent of the baby's injuries were established because that determined the level of investigation. There is only one opportunity to secure evidence. "The whole carriageway was closed to ensure the safety of the public and the emergency services at the scene because, in the past, road traffic collisions have been caused by drivers looking at the aftermath of a road traffic collision instead of concentrating on the road ahead. "Officers are acutely aware and mindful of the potential for traffic delays and the consequences to the travelling public. Dorset Police is always appreciative of the public's patience at the scene of road traffic collisions," explained Sergeant Burt.
grimreaper
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4:33pm Wed 18 Mar 09
animalchick
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4:35pm Wed 18 Mar 09
djd wrote:I think that most comments were actually made as a result of frustration rather than ignorance or criticism towards the Police. Frustrations directed towards weekly delays caused by insanely bad driving are not to be silenced! I am keen to add that I am not suggesting today's accident was due to bad driving by the driver or another party.
police wrote: Sergeant Nikki Burt of the Ferndown traffic department said: "The eight month old baby boy travelling in the car with his 19-year old mother from Bournemouth sustained a serious foot injury and was taken to Poole Hospital before being transferred to the Salisbury District Hospital at Odstock for specialist treatment. His mother sustained minor injuries. "Public safety and the highest quality of investigations at road traffic collisions are the top priorities of Dorset Police which does not take the decision to close a road lightly and always seeks to act in a proprortionate, thorough and appropriate manner. "Dorset Police has a duty to investigate road traffic collisions and the closure of a short section of the southbound carriageway of the A338 spur road between Blackwater and Cooper Dean was necessary until the full extent of the baby's injuries were established because that determined the level of investigation. There is only one opportunity to secure evidence. "The whole carriageway was closed to ensure the safety of the public and the emergency services at the scene because, in the past, road traffic collisions have been caused by drivers looking at the aftermath of a road traffic collision instead of concentrating on the road ahead. "Officers are acutely aware and mindful of the potential for traffic delays and the consequences to the travelling public. Dorset Police is always appreciative of the public's patience at the scene of road traffic collisions," explained Sergeant Burt.Well done Dorset Police for commenting on some of the comments on this blog. Ignorance is no excuse, if you dont know what you're talking about, don't criticise those are trying to sort the accident. One day, it may be one of your relatives and I wonder what your reaction would be if the police said they opened the road before they could complete a full investigation because selfish drivers are moaning. Or perhaps you know better !!!
Chris...
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4:35pm Wed 18 Mar 09
addenuf
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4:36pm Wed 18 Mar 09
WillBrown
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4:36pm Wed 18 Mar 09
animalchick
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4:52pm Wed 18 Mar 09
WillBrown wrote:It's more a case of driving properly and not cutting everyone up or making outrageous manoeuvres into fast moving traffic lanes whilst talking on your mobile phone!
I have read all the comments posted on here today, some are extreme but they do have some valid points. Thanks for the police’s comments, but they have not informed us why this happened, I’m sure if you would, it will save peoples lives? Know one likes accidents, so I would like some reasonable suggestions on how to stop/reduce them on the Spur Road. I know some people don’t think speed is a major factor, but I'm sure it is. How would you slow down motorist from 80/90+ mph a reasonable 60?
djd
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5:43pm Wed 18 Mar 09
Stevie Milton
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5:44pm Wed 18 Mar 09
djd
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5:48pm Wed 18 Mar 09
animalchick wrote:Yes, it does seem almost a weekly occurence that this road is closed due to someone's bad driving. I appreciate it can be frustrating for drivers trying to get somewhere, but that is part of driving. I don't know what the answer is to solve this problem. Perhaps better driver education, perhapds lower enforced speed limits.
djd wrote:I think that most comments were actually made as a result of frustration rather than ignorance or criticism towards the Police. Frustrations directed towards weekly delays caused by insanely bad driving are not to be silenced! I am keen to add that I am not suggesting today's accident was due to bad driving by the driver or another party.police wrote: Sergeant Nikki Burt of the Ferndown traffic department said: "The eight month old baby boy travelling in the car with his 19-year old mother from Bournemouth sustained a serious foot injury and was taken to Poole Hospital before being transferred to the Salisbury District Hospital at Odstock for specialist treatment. His mother sustained minor injuries. "Public safety and the highest quality of investigations at road traffic collisions are the top priorities of Dorset Police which does not take the decision to close a road lightly and always seeks to act in a proprortionate, thorough and appropriate manner. "Dorset Police has a duty to investigate road traffic collisions and the closure of a short section of the southbound carriageway of the A338 spur road between Blackwater and Cooper Dean was necessary until the full extent of the baby's injuries were established because that determined the level of investigation. There is only one opportunity to secure evidence. "The whole carriageway was closed to ensure the safety of the public and the emergency services at the scene because, in the past, road traffic collisions have been caused by drivers looking at the aftermath of a road traffic collision instead of concentrating on the road ahead. "Officers are acutely aware and mindful of the potential for traffic delays and the consequences to the travelling public. Dorset Police is always appreciative of the public's patience at the scene of road traffic collisions," explained Sergeant Burt.Well done Dorset Police for commenting on some of the comments on this blog. Ignorance is no excuse, if you dont know what you're talking about, don't criticise those are trying to sort the accident. One day, it may be one of your relatives and I wonder what your reaction would be if the police said they opened the road before they could complete a full investigation because selfish drivers are moaning. Or perhaps you know better !!!
psal
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5:59pm Wed 18 Mar 09
EGHH
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6:07pm Wed 18 Mar 09
ry8000
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6:09pm Wed 18 Mar 09
addenuf wrote:I completely agree. It seems very excessive, any maybe more police on the roads in the first place would help to prevent this, rather than just adding more speed cameras. It's amazing too, that they shut the entire road, not just the lane affected... I notice that doesn't happen on the A31 or M27 in Hampshire, they only close the affected lanes. Using safety as a reason is pathetic... What about people that could die due to ambulance delays caused by the entire area being gridlocked?!
Ok so now we've heard the police's version of events. First of all, I'm sorry to hear about the baby's injuries and hope everything will be sorted out quickly for him. However, I still do not understand - one vehicle was involved and both the injured mother and child were removed from the scene fairly quickly, by all accounts. As I said before, surely they can mark the road, take photographs and then clear up? How did waiting to hear the extent of the injury mean they couldn't clear up - unless they suspected foul play by a third party. Sorry but four hours still seems excessive for all that.
Aussie God from Winton
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7:07pm Wed 18 Mar 09
let-it-loose
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7:27pm Wed 18 Mar 09
signup
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7:32pm Wed 18 Mar 09
peterdw777
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8:27pm Wed 18 Mar 09
IFADave wrote:The question I asked of an off duty retained fireman this morning, "If an accident happened on the M4 Hammersmith Flyover (London), would the London Police keep that main arterial road into London closed for many hours while they investigated the accident?". His response was, "Probably not because the London Police know they need to keep the traffic moving."
blue-eyes wrote:I fully apreciate what your saying, but it doesnt take 4 hours to get an ambulance clear of the accident. The ambulance was on the scene within 20 mins. Surely the road could have been reopened within 1hr, 1 and half maximum. NOT 4 HOURS.
IFADave wrote: having spent over an Hour in the car this morning for what normally takes 15 mins, i was under the impression a fatalaty had occured on the spur road and fully understood the delays. After getting to work and finiding out that the car has merely been in an accident with the occupants having minor injuries, what are the police playing at closing the spur road for so long and causing massive traffic problems. They really need to get their act together as their must have been withensses at the time of the accident who would have stopped.I heard about the accident on local radio around 7.30am and left hoping to avoid the inevitable traffic problems on my way in to Bournemouth. I did, thankfully. I just hope the baby is ok. Unlike some, if the road is closed for an ambulance to attend to an injured baby, I would have to say that I'd rather the road was closed and I was late for work, than to think that I considered myself and my employer more important than the life a small baby!
pd7
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8:35pm Wed 18 Mar 09
PokesdownMark
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8:42pm Wed 18 Mar 09
gudmenrmist
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8:59pm Wed 18 Mar 09
phillips1234
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12:36pm Thu 19 Mar 09
grimreaper wrote:Just to put you in the picture... the girls tyre blew out whilst driving.. so lets thank god her and her baby were fine!!! Accidents like that don't always mean reckless driving!!
Why do Dorset Police take such great delight in closing a road for 4 hours and causing chaos ? and why do we pay them so much for doing it ?? In the old days it was clear the scene as fast as possible and get the traffic flowing again. If motorists want to drive like idiots let them die like idiots, you don't put a car on its roof driving properly.
Taffytim
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5:29pm Thu 19 Mar 09
richw
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7:33pm Thu 19 Mar 09
yahoo
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8:45pm Thu 19 Mar 09
bournemouth_nursing_student
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9:24pm Thu 19 Mar 09
yahoo wrote:I entirely agree. I was disgusted to see that people were so outraged at the hold up. There was a baby involved, if it was your baby wouldn't you be MAD at everyone here who is moaning about the wait?? If it was your baby wouldn't you want the emergency services to do their best possible job, get your baby out safely, treat them roadside then get them to hospital?! Or maybe we should get bigger ambulances so next time they could just move the whole car inside so as not to waste your precious time?!
I think you all need to get your facts straight before commenting, the cars tyre blew which is what caused the accident NOT bad driving and the mother and baby are both still in hospital from their injuries and the baby is having an operation so was a serious accident!!!! I dont think you would all be complaing about the delays if it were your own family members involved in the accident!!!! I understand that 4 hours may have seemed a long time for the road to be closed but at the end of the day we should just be thankful that they are both going to be ok!!!! 4 hours seems like nothing when it could of been their lives!!!!
GAHmusic
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10:02pm Thu 19 Mar 09
yahoo
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10:14pm Thu 19 Mar 09
GAHmusic
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8:14am Fri 20 Mar 09
phillips1234
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12:07pm Fri 20 Mar 09
yahoo wrote:I totally agree.. some of the nasty selfish comments make me sick!! Wow.. a whole 4 hours out of your life... how awful!!! Im just hoping that the darling little boy and his mum is going to be ok!! I will add again... IT WAS NOT DOWN TO BAD DRIVING... BUT HER TYRE BURST AS SHE WAS DRIVING!! Thank god they are both alive!!! Im hoping them both a speedy recovery!!
I think you all need to get your facts straight before commenting, the cars tyre blew which is what caused the accident NOT bad driving and the mother and baby are both still in hospital from their injuries and the baby is having an operation so was a serious accident!!!! I dont think you would all be complaing about the delays if it were your own family members involved in the accident!!!! I understand that 4 hours may have seemed a long time for the road to be closed but at the end of the day we should just be thankful that they are both going to be ok!!!! 4 hours seems like nothing when it could of been their lives!!!!
arendea
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5:56pm Mon 23 Mar 09
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IFADave says...
10:21am Wed 18 Mar 09