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BEALES' BOSS WANTS PARKING CHARGES SCRAPPED FOR A YEAR


SKY-high car parking charges in Bournemouth town centre should be scrapped for a year to regenerate the town’s retail fortunes.

Beales’ chief executive officer Tony Brown says the town is attracting around 50 per cent less shopping visitors than it should do because they just can’t afford to come here.

“If the council has got a policy to close down the town centre because of repressive parking charges and expand Castlepoint they need to come out and say that’s what they are doing,” he says.

“Because, at the moment, it looks like a sustained attack on the cash of people who want to come and shop and work in Bournemouth.”

“If they put half-a-per cent on the business rates and scrapped parking charges, I don’t think you’d see many retailers kicking up about that.”

Beales CEO Tony Brown

His remarks were sparked by concerns that the high cost of parking in Bournemouth town centre is driving shoppers to nearby Castlepoint, where parking is free, and also by fears that the council is planning to turn the last area of free town centre parking over to pay and display.

“By spreading the pay and display they’ve demonstrated that all they are interested in is the revenue, not the commercial viability of what should be a thriving town centre,” claims Mr Brown.

He says he is willing to see another half-a-per cent added to Beales’ £200,000-plus business rate to help compensate for lost revenue – and that other retailers would agree.

“I’m quite happy for the council to put a half-a-per cent on my business rate.

“I’ll give a little if they give a little,” he says. “If they put half-a-per cent on the business rates and scrapped parking charges, I don’t think you’d see many retailers kicking up about that.”

He described the £9 a day charged by the Richmond Hill multi-story as “appalling” and noted that the NCP car park at the bottom of the same road had slashed its charges only a few weeks ago.

Figures suggest that compared to similar towns such as Great Yarmouth, Bournemouth town centre is experiencing half the shopping visits that it should be from people in the local area.

“We should be attracting to the town centre 50 per cent more shoppers than we are attracting at the moment,” he says.

“That is around 300,000 people who are not coming to the town who should be.”

He believes the borough must look at other ways of raising revenue, with the town becoming “almost a no-go area for people who have got cars”.

Hard-pressed workers are also increasingly feeling the pinch and: “Some are paying as much as £10 a day to park.”

Abolishing charges would leave them with more money to spend in town.

“I think if they had a moratorium for 12 months and scrapped parking charges altogether, although keeping wardens to ensure spaces are kept clear for disabled people and to prevent illegal or dangerous parking, I think the town would see a resurgence.”

The evidence is that drivers resent paying. In York in 2005 a 20 per cent jump in fees at the city’s short-stay car parks resulted in a £33,000 revenue drop as motorists went elsewhere.

In its 2006 report, Parking In Town Centres, the British Parking Organisation noted that: “For many consumers visiting an out-of-town shopping location is becoming more attractive than visiting the nearest town centre shops.”

However, both these reports were published well before the credit crunch began to bite.

With all shoppers being forced to consider their spending now, even fewer will want to pay to park.

• What do you think? Would you come to the town centre more if you didn’t have to pay to park? Have your say below.

Council is responding positively

Cllr John Beesley, deputy leader of the council, said he was disappointed with what he described as Mr Brown’s “relatively uninformed” comments.

He said the council worked with many trade organisations, including the Chamber of Trade, the Federation of Small Businesses, the Bournemouth Area Hospitality Association and the Tourism Management Board, to improve and promote the town centre.

And he pointed out the council had set up a £1m “recession-busting fund” to help the town centre survive the economic downturn.

“Our car parking charges in the town centre are competitive,” he said. “Those run by private operators were not competitive but they have now reduced their prices in line with ours. I think perhaps Mr Brown might be getting confused between council car parks and private car parks.

“We try and tread a very fine line between maximising our income and attracting shoppers. It’s just not true to suggest that we’re continually looking to increase charges. We haven’t raised our car parking charges and don’t currently propose to.

“I’m very happy to meet with Mr Brown but I think he should be raising this under the umbrella of the Chamber of Trade.

“This is like me criticising the way he runs his retail at Beales.”


Comments(39)

2Much...again! says...
7:39am Fri 13 Mar 09

Codswallop!
The council are once again burying their heads in the sand, and as usual their comments are patronising.
I don't go to Bournemouth because the shops are the same as any town, the shops pay EXTORTIONATE business rates, which has pushed smaller stores away. The car parking is a joke. They use the money they inherit to put litter spies on the streets and there is little evidence of the streets actually having cleaners on it.
Bournemouth are more angled toward money than people..

Ivy says...
8:00am Fri 13 Mar 09

What about the considerable amount of people that don't have access to a car, why should their taxes be used to subsidise motorists? It would be much more efficient if public transport was subsidised.

rayc says...
8:13am Fri 13 Mar 09

Ivy wrote:
What about the considerable amount of people that don't have access to a car, why should their taxes be used to subsidise motorists? It would be much more efficient if public transport was subsidised.
I believe that motorists susidise the council tax system thus allowing residents to habe lower taxes than they would otherwise have. Tthat is what poole council say and why they are so concerned with the falling inmcome they are receiving having killed the golden goose. I think you will find that public transport is heavily subsidised. I live on a bus route and most buses are less than a quarter full and much less at night so they cannot be viable.

GB916 says...
8:48am Fri 13 Mar 09

I feel this is a good idea,but unfortunately the shops are suffering the same as buses,the parking charges go up,so less people come to bournemouth,so the parking charges go up again to cover the loses,same as buses,the less people use them the more prices rise,and this then has a negative effect,someone has got to take the plunge,and im with the beales boss,and i dont even drive.

Emulated says...
8:54am Fri 13 Mar 09

It will make little difference. People are simply short of money and its no wonder with fuel bills doubling and council tax up again. The council will have to be carefull as they will be unable to raise council tax next year or there will be riots.

Cazzam says...
9:09am Fri 13 Mar 09

Don't business rates go straight to the government anyway?

In Absentia says...
9:13am Fri 13 Mar 09

Emulated wrote:
It will make little difference. People are simply short of money and its no wonder with fuel bills doubling and council tax up again. The council will have to be carefull as they will be unable to raise council tax next year or there will be riots.
Have'nt you recently received your Council Tax bill? Make sure you let us know who you are when you storm the streets.

What annoyed me most on the breakdown of the bill is that the Dorset Police Authority has had a 5% increase whilst Bmth Council kept theirs at 3.8%. Still well above inflation though.

ry8000 says...
9:13am Fri 13 Mar 09

I agree, it's the motorist that subsidises everything in this country. Remove the tax revenue generated from fuel, VED, parking charges, parking tickets, and speeding fines and the govt/councils would be broke overnight.

This idiotic council need a shake up, I think we're all getting just about fed up with their elitist and patronising comments and policies. Maybe on their super-inflated incomes the charges are insignificant, but for the rest of us it's rather more relevant.

davep1 says...
9:39am Fri 13 Mar 09

Bournemouth Council remind me of the Sheriff of Nottingham. Putting cash collection before people. Pure greed.

Emulated says...
10:10am Fri 13 Mar 09

davep1 wrote:
Bournemouth Council remind me of the Sheriff of Nottingham. Putting cash collection before people. Pure greed.
I agree. But we must not get confused between those that work for the council in the various departments, many on an average wage and those department heads etc who get inflated wages for doing very little. Then the councillors which are a seperate issue all together who we can dump every few years. I am more concerned with the high up employees who are able to keep their jobs despite costing us thousands in bad decisions.

flying leper says...
10:43am Fri 13 Mar 09

Where's Robin, LITTLE JOHN poole and the merry men today.

Lord Snooty says...
11:08am Fri 13 Mar 09

Appeal to the council?
Actually question the talented business brains who dominate local politics. You are far better off banging your head against a wall....You may end up with a bump but you understand the logic of that compared to the blinkered logic of our council masters.

ry8000 says...
11:16am Fri 13 Mar 09

"council masters" really seems to be spot on here. I wonder if these people remember that they are public servants, i.e. they serve us. These councilors remain, even when political parties change, and this just isn't right. Most are probably in it for their own financial gain anyway. Logic, unfortunately, doesn't seem to be at the top of their agenda.

grimreaper says...
11:38am Fri 13 Mar 09

Wake up Mr Brown !
Nobody does any serious shopping in the town centre anymore its a toilet and half a mile hike from any car park.
Move to one of the out of town retail parks where parking is FREE!
The council couldn't plan a p up in a pub.
The town centre is for night clubs and bars it keeps a police force employed !!

solarsun says...
11:40am Fri 13 Mar 09

Every comment on here is slagging off the Council. In fact ry8000 says:

This idiotic council need a shake up, I think we're all getting just about fed up with their elitist and patronising comments and policies.

Well, you know what to do don't you? VOTE THEM OUT!

And, if can't vote them out I'm afraid it goes to show that your comments are wrong, and not everyone is fed up with them.

It's called the democratic process. Like, lump it or move to another part of the country.


pd7 says...
11:44am Fri 13 Mar 09

I have to agree with grimreaper , shopping should be an good experience not a battle from the moment you get in the car , try to park , vandals , sky high prices , poor service the list goes on. Lived in Dorset for 20+ years shopped in B'mouth once.Castlepoint never.

ry8000 says...
11:46am Fri 13 Mar 09

solarsun wrote:
Every comment on here is slagging off the Council. In fact ry8000 says: This idiotic council need a shake up, I think we're all getting just about fed up with their elitist and patronising comments and policies. Well, you know what to do don't you? VOTE THEM OUT! And, if can't vote them out I'm afraid it goes to show that your comments are wrong, and not everyone is fed up with them. It's called the democratic process. Like, lump it or move to another part of the country.
Pah!! I did vote them out, and what did I get?... the exact same councillors!! Fat lot of good that did. I'm sorry, but until the local council structure is changed to allow accountability and removal of the fat-cats, then we're always going to be in this mess.

p.s. if "Every comment on here is slagging off the Council" maybe that proves me right!

ben111 says...
11:49am Fri 13 Mar 09

The idea of free parking ithink is a good one , As i have started shopping at Castle point easier to park and free... But as most people say cant see the council doimg that.

grimreaper says...
12:13pm Fri 13 Mar 09

There's no long term plan no continuity they bounce from one financial crisis to another and as long as party politics and muppets play a part in local government it won't change !!

Anyone can be a councillor with NO QUALIFICATIONS

It's called DEMOCRACY and that's why we are where we are today


Laurie Marsh says...
12:22pm Fri 13 Mar 09

This whole story is a waste of time!
The council are not going to strangle their "cash cow".
This is the age of the motor car!
There is an umbilical cord between the motorist and his (or her) car.
If the town centre is to survive then the individual stores are going to have to supply parking for their customers!
There are two choices, either buy the bankrupt building next door and put in a car park or dig a big hole under your building and do the same thing!
People just dont want to be separated from their cars (especially if they are carrying parcels)!
There is of course the third choice, that is to move your business to where people can get access!
If that is done just watch how quickly the council comes to the party!

Chris... says...
12:29pm Fri 13 Mar 09

We recently travelled to Southampton for an alternative shopping day. I was amazed that the cost of the drive to Southampton and back, and the day long parking of £3.50 worked out less than parking in Bournemouth for the day.

The essence of such places as Southampton is that most if not all is all under one roof at West Quay, with an easy walk out to the precinct. In Bournemouth one is split between two halves of the town separated by the Ugly Cafe, with both main carparks that could not be further away from each other, so if one wishes to shop on both sides, one has to dump off one load, and then walk or drive over to the other side.

The report on the National News yesterday regarding parking in Bournemouth said it all. The only good thing is that a whole day parking was down from £14 to £10, well whoope. Cllr Beesley avoided the questions as normal, basically indicating that the Council need the money, because they will not be able to raise council taxes next year, although they have asked for 3.9% this year, ABOVE INFLATION.

This Council has put so much money into their own wallets and purses, wasted so much money on projects that are useless, they hit back with taxes, car park fees, the closure of workable facilities such as the HHOAC etc. Roll on may 2011, get rid of the lot of them.

The Scouts and Brownies could do better.

Bournemouthstorm says...
12:42pm Fri 13 Mar 09

Not a good idea, the car parks will be full of commuters cars all day rather than shopper. Bus services will be cut due to less people using them. Tony Brown why don't you show the colour of your money and and lead by example and give people a discount if they show there car parking ticket in your store! Oh that wouldnt do would it because then it will be from you profits rather than us concil tax payers?

Emulated says...
1:13pm Fri 13 Mar 09

solarsun wrote:
Every comment on here is slagging off the Council. In fact ry8000 says: This idiotic council need a shake up, I think we're all getting just about fed up with their elitist and patronising comments and policies. Well, you know what to do don't you? VOTE THEM OUT! And, if can't vote them out I'm afraid it goes to show that your comments are wrong, and not everyone is fed up with them. It's called the democratic process. Like, lump it or move to another part of the country.
Its not just the councillors. We can vote them out but the same high paid non jobs and head of every deaprtment going stays at the Town Hall. The councillors have little to do with running the council. Its a closed shop of you scratch my back etc.

ferret38 says...
1:41pm Fri 13 Mar 09

There all a bunch of money grabbing scumbags !!!!

Prem-Chik says...
2:00pm Fri 13 Mar 09

To put it quite simply, i would rather go to Poole or Castlepoint because it is cheaper and easier then Bournemouth.

The council should just DO something instead of talking about it all the time.

flying leper says...
2:31pm Fri 13 Mar 09

The Arndale benches Poole , you get the same old fogies sitting on em every day ,Put a parking meter on every seat, lets say 50 pence per half hour, that will stop the all day hoggers, if they want to sit down ,let them sit down in there bed sits before they go out or when they get back , thats fair.fry xx

born2bongo says...
3:35pm Fri 13 Mar 09

They should be scrapped FOREVER! Parking charges are immoral.

"Cllr John Beesley, deputy leader of the council, said he was disappointed with what he described as Mr Brown’s “relatively uninformed” comments"

I would say that Beesley is TOTALLY uninformed. I rarely go into town, and don't stop if I can't park in a free zone.

Beesley admits the council just sees the motorist as a cash cow. Actually, we are their employer.

I understand they took £5 million in charges last year. A good management team could save more than that in the Town Hall alone, getting rid of the arrogant dead-wood that fills it.

They are OUR SERVANTS NOT OUR MASTERS.

solarsun says...
4:30pm Fri 13 Mar 09

born2bongo says: They are OUR SERVANTS NOT OUR MASTERS.

If they are doing something that you consider to be immoral (charging for parking) and have been doing so for decades, I would say that they are far from being your servants!

I think you may need to reconsider your stance regarding that particular little power struggle.

fedupwithjobsworths says...
5:12pm Fri 13 Mar 09

Tony Brown is right but he is wasting his time talking to the Council ... they just do not live in the same world as the rest of us. Like many other people I no longer shop in the town centre, I take my custom elsewhere. Far better to shop at Castlepoint or go to a Cinema / restaurant at Tower Park and avoid being ripped off by our Council's parking charges. The Council does not comprehend the meaning of cost cutting. Even in these dire financial times the Council intends to increase the number of staff it employs over the next 12 months .... they just do not get the message.

Tryst says...
5:24pm Fri 13 Mar 09

Moved from greedy grabbing Bournemouth some time ago, fed up with the changes for the worst, expecially traffic and parking charges.


now live in a land of free parking , except for a few places, but there is good cheap public transport into the big cities, so shopping and days out are once again enjoyable. So glad to have left such a greedy money motivated area. What do they do they do with the moeny from all the council tax on the numerous flats and houses that are still being packed into small spaces?

Slider-1984 says...
6:22pm Fri 13 Mar 09

I wouldnt say free parkin in bmth is the answer!!!! maybe look into cuttin the cost for parking, if thats the case if free parkin in bmth then why not poole or christchurch or any over place, i mean bmth theres nothin in bmth to do or go now days, poole is better then bmth....

supermac says...
6:41pm Fri 13 Mar 09

Anyone that has parked at castlepoint knows how easy it is to park and for free when going shopping there.shops right next to your car,why go into the town centre?come on Bournemouth,how do you expect people to frequent your town centre when your doing your best to drive them away.

ttorets says...
6:54pm Fri 13 Mar 09

while i am not a great lover of the french people i must say that if we acted as the french do when their not happy with something we may be listended to a little more, this council,just like all others, are squeezing residents as much as they can untill there comes a time when they will be able to squeeze no more.
all councils really are hipocrits when it comes to the motorist, on the one hand they preach about climate change and tell us not to use cars,on the other hand they like to use the motorist as a cash cow.
where are all these shortfalls in tax going to come from when we cant afford to park in bournemouth, will we go back to window tax.
parking charges are a vicious circle, if we dont go to towns because of high parking charges then these towns will simply shut which reduces revenus to councils then they come back to us through our council tax bills,
scrap all parking charges now and let bournemouth breath again with thousands of people like it used to.

nobodysfool says...
7:45pm Fri 13 Mar 09

I applaud you Mr Brown for trying to help bring shoppers into town. Cllr Beesely says that your "relatively uninformed" and that basically you should keep your nose out as he's a councillor so knows best. Mr Cllr Beesely should come to Beales and buy some humble pie from your fine department store. He says that the council hasn't put its parking charges up and doesnt propose to. Maybe Cllr it's you that is relatively uninformed as you are currently proposing to increase parking charges from the 1st april, lansdowne road up by 20%, inroduction of evening charge in all beach front car parks, the scrapping of the cheap £1 eveing tariff in upper hinton road car park and replacing with daytime charges.
You Cllr, clearly have no idea of whats going on do you.

supermac says...
7:52pm Fri 13 Mar 09

christchurh and ringwood are both reasonably priced in the car parking dept,unfortunately they havnt got the shops to draw people in on a large scale,where as Bournemouth does have the shops but drives away potential customers with their parking charges.

PokesdownMark says...
8:59pm Fri 13 Mar 09

I struggle with the concept that the council can draw a line around a piece of land at the side of the road and charge a rent to occupy that place. How is that different from them deciding to section the beach into rectangles and charge for people to sit in them?


poolebob says...
9:17pm Fri 13 Mar 09

It's not just the shoppers that Bournemouth overcharges. It's also those who come into town in the evening for a show or meal. It costs £1 to park for the whole evening in Poole. In Bournemouth it costs around £3.00 to £3.60 for three hours. A meal and show would require at least four hours costing £4.00 at the Pavilion and £5.50 at the BIC.

rook says...
9:39pm Fri 13 Mar 09

Maybe instead of businesses paying higher taxes to offset the free parking, they cut prices a bit - it would have the same effect? Come May, the car parks will all be full anyway. Generally speaking, most locals don't want to shop in town centres for day-to-day goods.

If I fancy shopping in Bournemouth I park in one of the less central car parks e.g. off St.Peters road, and walk the 5 minutes it takes to get to Old Christchurch Road. I think at the moment it's about 50p an hour to park there.

Seriously, money is short at the moment, but if the difference between £1 and £4 for a half-day's parking is stopping you going to the town centre, then most likely you won't be splashing out on your shopping when you get there.

davep1 says...
10:09am Sat 14 Mar 09

solarsun wrote:
Every comment on here is slagging off the Council. In fact ry8000 says: This idiotic council need a shake up, I think we're all getting just about fed up with their elitist and patronising comments and policies. Well, you know what to do don't you? VOTE THEM OUT! And, if can't vote them out I'm afraid it goes to show that your comments are wrong, and not everyone is fed up with them. It's called the democratic process. Like, lump it or move to another part of the country.
It is the council officers and heads of department that have jobs for life you need to waorry about. But what do they care, they get free parking and subsidised lunch!


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