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8:31am Friday 13th February 2009
THE contractors building Bournemouth’s surf reef are working on another project in India – and council chiefs are not convinced they will return to finish the job.
The shock news has startled councillors and is the latest twist in the controversial tale of the Boscombe reef project.
See the Related Links panel on the right for links to more revelations about the surf reef
The reef is the key part of the Boscombe Spa development and costs for the whole project have risen by a third to hit £11m.
Head of leisure services, Roger Brown, admitted the council has approached other companies in case the hired contractor ASR does not return from another reef project in India to finish the work.
“Our preferred route is for ASR to return,” said Mr Brown. “However we need to have the option of a Plan B.”
The news came at a special council scrutiny meeting to look into the spiralling costs. ASR and the council suspended work for the winter with the reef 60 per cent built.
The Indian press reported ASR began work building a 500 metre surf reef in Kerala, partly funded by the tsunami relief fund, at the end of December but work stalled due to “administrative delays”.
The council will now have to pay £100,000 towards ASR’s bill of nearly £300,000 for shipping their equipment to and from India.
Mr Brown said: “We are leaving payment as late as possible in terms of securing ASR’s return.”
Some councillors angrily proposed suspending all payments but council leader Cllr Stephen MacLoughlin warned them off.
He said: “The council could be in breach of contract and potentially it would let ASR off the hook and we would be at serious risk of ASR walking away from the contract.”
However Labour’s Cllr Ben Grower said: “I have had correspondence from people all over the country, from New Zealand, from America, that this whole project is the laughing stock of people in the trade of marine developments.”
Independent Cllr Anne Rey said: “The contractors have gone to India and taken all their equipment with them – we are just hoping they will come back.”
The tentative timetable is for ASR’s new project manager to arrive in the next few weeks and for work to be finished by mid July, though delays to the Indian surf reef could have a knock-on effect.
The panel agreed to recommend paying up to an extra £346,000 costs for the surf reef, although it believes it will only need to spend just over half.
When the reef is completed, Plymouth University will assess whether the waves are good enough to trigger a final £150,000 payment.
The meeting heard government permission for beach front work took nearly a year, not the advised three months, and ASR’s work permits took nine weeks, not the advised three.
Mr Brown also said “we had the windiest July and August for the last 60 years”, though the council later corrected this to ‘since 1996’.
Cllr Beverly Dunlop, cabinet member for economy and tourism, said in a statement: “I requested the Scrutiny hearing in the interests of being open, honest and transparent over where the additional costs had arisen and I am pleased a full and open discussion has taken place.
“We are also still on track to deliver a first rate flagship development that will see the town firmly on the international map.”
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southcoastmatt, Branksome says...
8:42am Fri 13 Feb 09
Cazzam, Bournemouth says...
8:50am Fri 13 Feb 09
EdBmth, Bournemouth says...
8:52am Fri 13 Feb 09
nigel24, Bournemouth says...
9:01am Fri 13 Feb 09
katie1221, Pokesdown says...
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In Absentia, Bournemouth says...
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Trifecta, Southbourne says...
9:24am Fri 13 Feb 09
Gastines, St.Malo says...
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Trifecta, Southbourne says...
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terry1965, bournemouth says...
9:44am Fri 13 Feb 09
GB916, christchurch says...
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John T, Poole says...
9:48am Fri 13 Feb 09
davep1, Dorset says...
9:57am Fri 13 Feb 09
Lord Snooty, 7th Earl of Moordown, Muscliff Towers. says...
10:12am Fri 13 Feb 09
John T, Poole says...
10:24am Fri 13 Feb 09
Lord Snooty wrote:A Lot Less Monster....a Fantasy creation where I estimate the Council Taxpayers will get reduced bills.
This reef has become the Imax Centre of the sea! Three cheers for our council planners yet again. What next I wonder?
Maureen Arthur, Hamlet of Poole says...
10:37am Fri 13 Feb 09
davep1, Dorset says...
10:37am Fri 13 Feb 09
grimreaper, Ensbury Park says...
10:45am Fri 13 Feb 09
noel1, Bournemouth says...
10:47am Fri 13 Feb 09
John T, Poole says...
10:49am Fri 13 Feb 09
Maureen Arthur wrote:What do you expect from a Company spelt ASR...the hole truth.
Ohh, what a bombay mix up! oink!
Bob49, Bournemouth says...
10:56am Fri 13 Feb 09
southcoastmatt, Branksome says...
11:04am Fri 13 Feb 09
kiteman, bournemouth says...
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kiteman, bournemouth says...
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kiteman, bournemouth says...
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kiteman, bournemouth says...
11:26am Fri 13 Feb 09
fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown says...
11:28am Fri 13 Feb 09
Grumpy Griff, Christchurch says...
11:40am Fri 13 Feb 09
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:The council IS a laughing stock!
What at mess - all we have is a load of manky flats at Honeycombe Chine and a truncated Boscombe Pier which does not even have a landing stage! The Council is making Bournemouth a laughing stock
Fire_fly, Bournemouth says...
11:52am Fri 13 Feb 09
Fire_fly, Bournemouth says...
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djd, bournemouth says...
12:06pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Emulated, Bournemouth says...
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Fire_fly, Bournemouth says...
12:13pm Fri 13 Feb 09
nonnogeppetto, Boscombe east says...
12:16pm Fri 13 Feb 09
kiteman wrote:Yes I do. It should be in Australia.
Does anytone else think the reef is completely in the wrong place? Please state your reasons why.
Emulated, Bournemouth says...
12:19pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Fire_fly, Bournemouth says...
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BIGTONE, POOLE says...
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Fire_fly, Bournemouth says...
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gallantxxx, poole says...
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arendea, southbourne says...
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Tictock, Trier Germany says...
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davep1, Dorset says...
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Papa Joe, Boscombe says...
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magicmonkey, Bournemouth says...
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BottomE, Bournemouth says...
3:59pm Fri 13 Feb 09
charley farley west parley, bournemouth says...
4:01pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Maureen Arthur, Hamlet of Poole says...
4:17pm Fri 13 Feb 09
arendea wrote:bring on the guillotine!
Bring on the public enquiry !
Chris..., says...
4:25pm Fri 13 Feb 09
pete woodley, bournemouth says...
4:39pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Chris... wrote:Feel better now,waste of time however as councillors and staff most certainly do not come online,or probably even read the Echo,and all the comments on earth,will not make them change their mind,or act differently,they live in a different world,and we are beneath them.
Firstly I cannot understand how the Council and those in charge of this project can say that they are shocked at the news that ASR are working in India. This has been reported by me, and other members who have commented on this fiasco, since Christmas. If the Council and the Project Managers had done their work they would have found that ASR do not live up to their expectations and recommendations. It is not the first time they have left one job and moved on.
In their defence however, I would say that the project under Roger Brown and Co, and the Tourism under Cllr Dunlop have made a mockery of the whole situation in that they or at least some of them did not see this before now. Rather than squander money on something that was not happending, holding accommodation that no one is living in, and producing the biggest sham in Bournemouth since the Winter Gardens were removed, and the Square was blocked off.
Not only should the India story have been brought out earlier, it was known as I said, but the reef in ASR own country.
If it ever gets completed the Council still are not sure if it will work. They have to bring in a university to assess if the waves are higher before final payment. If they are not, final payment is not made, and we have a little extra swell on the beach. The swell in the back pockets would be bigger. Is Mr. Brown and authority on the weather now. July and August the windiest months, where was he staying. Probably know where most of the wind was coming from. The majority of those two months were brilliant weather. Average wind speed throughout July and August was between 9 and 15km/h.
Cllr. Dunlop should have requested a scrutiny of costs, fundings and future monies long before now.
It is a lot money wasted, and more money is to be wasted on a project that will not come to fruition. It is time that those who have caused this are brought to office and made to answer the charges. I for one do not appreciate my money being wasted on ideas that could be better handled by a 5 year old sand castle builder on Bournemouth Beach.
Over to the Council Leaders, and Officers to get this sorted before it is too late.
Sam Shepherd, says...
4:59pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Bring Back Le Tiss, Bournemouth says...
5:25pm Fri 13 Feb 09
onthebrink, Sandbanks says...
7:02pm Fri 13 Feb 09
dopey, says...
8:02pm Fri 13 Feb 09
time nor Tide, bournemouth says...
9:42pm Fri 13 Feb 09
time nor Tide, bournemouth says...
9:52pm Fri 13 Feb 09
dopey wrote:dont bag the kiteman -he 's the first I heard with any commonsense and experience in the ocean that debunked the drivel we have been hearing about the work conditions.
Have you not spotted the Friday 13th syndrome ? FIVE "stories" abour a non-existent (gr)reef posted at (almost) one minute intervals: 0831,0833,0834,0836, 0837 I thought it must be 1st April !
pipistrollers, Bournemouth says...
11:01pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Chris..., says...
11:14pm Fri 13 Feb 09
pete woodley wrote:Oh yes Peter I do feel better. And I have to agree with you regarding the Councillors. However, I do take the time out to right exactly the same to them directly, and to post on other forums that they may take a look at. This is just for the readers benefits and the odd Cllr that does look in. They do you know, remember Omegaman.
Chris... wrote:Feel better now,waste of time however as councillors and staff most certainly do not come online,or probably even read the Echo,and all the comments on earth,will not make them change their mind,or act differently,they live in a different world,and we are beneath them.
Firstly I cannot understand how the Council and those in charge of this project can say that they are shocked at the news that ASR are working in India. This has been reported by me, and other members who have commented on this fiasco, since Christmas. If the Council and the Project Managers had done their work they would have found that ASR do not live up to their expectations and recommendations. It is not the first time they have left one job and moved on.
In their defence however, I would say that the project under Roger Brown and Co, and the Tourism under Cllr Dunlop have made a mockery of the whole situation in that they or at least some of them did not see this before now. Rather than squander money on something that was not happending, holding accommodation that no one is living in, and producing the biggest sham in Bournemouth since the Winter Gardens were removed, and the Square was blocked off.
Not only should the India story have been brought out earlier, it was known as I said, but the reef in ASR own country.
If it ever gets completed the Council still are not sure if it will work. They have to bring in a university to assess if the waves are higher before final payment. If they are not, final payment is not made, and we have a little extra swell on the beach. The swell in the back pockets would be bigger. Is Mr. Brown and authority on the weather now. July and August the windiest months, where was he staying. Probably know where most of the wind was coming from. The majority of those two months were brilliant weather. Average wind speed throughout July and August was between 9 and 15km/h.
Cllr. Dunlop should have requested a scrutiny of costs, fundings and future monies long before now.
It is a lot money wasted, and more money is to be wasted on a project that will not come to fruition. It is time that those who have caused this are brought to office and made to answer the charges. I for one do not appreciate my money being wasted on ideas that could be better handled by a 5 year old sand castle builder on Bournemouth Beach.
Over to the Council Leaders, and Officers to get this sorted before it is too late.
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nonnogeppetto, Boscombe east says...
8:39am Fri 13 Feb 09
How come that a contractor does not complete the work it supposed to have done and the council ends up in breach of contract?
Who is pulling the wool over who's eyes here?