Go plastic call for Poole after pub glassing horror (From Bournemouth Echo)
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Go plastic call for Poole after pub glassing horror
3:00pm Thursday 22nd January 2009 in
THE glassing of a 28-year-old nursery nurse has led to renewed calls for Poole pubs to ditch glass and serve drinks in plastic.
Lacey Hiscock was left with deep cuts to the face and needed 25 stitches after the attack at Yates on Poole High Street before Christmas.
Her story, which the Daily Echo carried on its front page yesterday, prompted a Poole councillor Lindsay Wilson to once again urge Borough of Poole to toughen its policy on introducing polycarbonate drinking vessels in the town centre.
Cllr Wilson was one of 12 Liberal Democrats to sign a motion to that effect last March – but it failed to win support at a meeting of the environment overview committee and was thrown out by the full council.
Cllr Wilson said had it been backed, this latest horrifying attack might never have happened.
She said: “My heart goes out to Lacey and her family at this difficult time. It’s not just one person affected – it’s everyone around them as well.
“Some might say had the council supported that motion, this wouldn’t have happened.”
She added: “At the meeting of the environment committee it kept being said we don’t have a big problem in Poole – only a few incidents a year. In my view one is one too many.”
She has put forward another motion, expected to come before councillors in February, for the matter to be reconsidered urgently.
Back in 2006 the Daily Echo joined the police in Bournemouth to launch the Call Time on Glass campaign after a number of glassings. Then more than half the town centre drinking venues switched from glass to plastic.
Poole town centre’s three clubs, Mint, Dundees and The Loft, have voluntarily adopted plastic glasses, and, following incidents, the Woodman and Cockleshell pubs switched to plastic at peak times.
But PC Adam Gill, of Bournemouth and Poole licensing, said: “If there is a glassing incident we would speak to the premises and resolve the situation to reduce any risks.
“It would not be legal for us to force everyone to go polycarbonate. We can’t put a blanket condition across everyone’s licences.”
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djd
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3:14pm Thu 22 Jan 09
DailyView
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3:47pm Thu 22 Jan 09
paul.p
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6:09pm Thu 22 Jan 09
Mum of four
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6:52pm Thu 22 Jan 09
Palantir
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6:56pm Thu 22 Jan 09
GB1980
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7:59pm Thu 22 Jan 09
DailyView wrote:How could that work? The jobsworths on the door might think it makes their jobs easier but it would be needlessly intrusive to the majority who have no intention of causing any trouble and just want to have a good time.
If the pubs were forced, and I mean forced to keep a check on who enteres their pubs and clubs, this sort of thing would drop. All clubs and pubs are worried about is getting the money in. A few years ago I worked in a very large pub, both at the bar and on the door. A number of times we were about to remove someone for causing trouble and told by higher authority, leave him, he spends money.
It sounds like PC Gill has the right idea - the use of plastic glasses (I don't like to call it a "ban" on real glass) in places where conflict is likely is sensible, but why punish drinkers in quiet locals' pubs where there is never any trouble?
Dorset_Born_n_Bread !
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12:11am Fri 23 Jan 09
No matter if its just a complaint from the public of incidents on the door or an attack of any kind inside. These records should be reviewed with the licensee every 6 months.
A limit should be put on incidents occuring and a report filed based on the severity for every bar club and pub. One too many incidents of an unacceptable level and the bar should have a ban on selling alcohol for one week or face losing license forever. Hit the bar where it hurts if they don't protect its patrons or fail to tackle violence or anti social problem areas or drunks.
Furthermore, Alcohol sales should be conducted with the backing of professional training and support to the bar. In many European Countries an ALCOHOL PASS similar to HYGEINE PASS is required by EVERY member of staff in the bar selling drinks. This course (including Finland where they drink more than Brits) covers basic common sense and safety on how to serve alcohol responsibly. This also gives bar staff essential training on how to recognise and deal with problems of a serious nature, someone they think is a problem customer or too drunk to be in a bar and safety issues to other customers.
BAR staff forget they have a right to refuse to serve drinks but in UK they dont use it for fear the boss will give them trouble. A lot of bar staff dont have this essential training because most are too young managed by someone that should take more control rather than thinking of the money in the tills over safety.
CAMPAIGN FOR NATIONAL ALCOHOL PASS as well as PLASTIC GLASSES. Just see the violence in our pubs and streets drop by % when it happens!
Cllr David Brown
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1:29am Fri 23 Jan 09
At the Environment Overview committee which failed to support the motion for Poole to toughen its policy on introducing polycarbonate drinking vessels in the town centre, comments quoted from the minutes of the meeting were made that "There was not a problem in Poole, which necessitated such action and it was felt that the Motion was merely “talking the Town down”." This incident shows that action is needed to maintain Poole's reputation as a safe place to enjoy a night out.
As Cllr Wilson says, one incident like this is one too many. We need to ensure that Miss Hiscock's suffering is not in vain and demand that this matter is urgently reconsidered and action is taken.
I'll be supporting any further motions to that effect in the hope that we can reduce the risk of any such incident happening in Poole again.
Adrian XX
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3:33am Fri 23 Jan 09
Palantir wrote:No. Though plastic is more likely to survive being dropped, glass survives better in the dishwasher. Plastic gets scratched badly and cracks in pub dishwashers.
Wouldn't it be cheaper in the long run to use plastic? Aside from the obvious reduction in injuries caused when used as a weapon, they are more durable and harder to shatter, which saves a fortune in replacements, and cheaper to buy than glass?
GB1980
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11:23am Fri 23 Jan 09
Laurie Marsh
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11:32am Sat 24 Jan 09
Some criminal idiot sticks a glass in someones face and suddenly no-one is allowed to have a drink out of a glass?
Who is being punished here?
The same question has just been raised here.
The "cotton wool" brigade is alive and well!
Have you noticed how many people have been killed and injured on the roads?
It must be about time to ban motor vehicles!
Or is that not convenient?
DOUBLE STANDARD?????
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