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Let them take drugs, says Ukip quest speaker
7:34am Saturday 6th September 2008
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THE UK Independence Party's Bournemouth conference kicked off yesterday with a controversial call to legalise all drugs.
The provocative statement was made by guest speaker James Whale and left many party delegates "stunned and appalled".
Party representatives were quick to stress that the former TalkSport presenter's views are not official party policy.
But they also insist they are "not afraid" to debate big issues that other parties shy away from.
Mr Whale, who was fired from his late-night radio phone-in show when he urged listeners to vote for Boris Johnson in the mayoral elections, also suggested Britain should join the Euro.
Gawain Taylor, Ukip's prospective parliamentary candidate for North Dorset, said: "I think James Whale managed to upset every single person in the room, for different reasons.
"He called for complete legalisation of all drugs but suggested they should be licensed and regulated.
"He said he didn't want to see people jacking up in public, just like he doesn't want to see people drinking in public, but he doesn't feel drugs should be banned.
"We don't support that line but, as he made clear, he doesn't support any political party.
"He wasn't representing the party."
When asked whether he felt Mr Whale had damaged Ukip's reputation, he said: "Of course not.
"I think why not raise the debate?' "His position is that the bans and prohibitions don't seem to work, that there are more people taking heroin than ever before and that maybe if it was legalised, it would be less invasive to society.
"From Ukip's perspective, we don't go along with that - but it's an issue that should be raised and debated and we are not afraid of that.
"There were people in the hall who applauded that statement, others looked absolutely appalled.
"He was interesting and provocative but that's what he does. We're not afraid of that."
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Bluebell, Poole says...
8:24am Sat 6 Sep 08
fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown says...
8:43am Sat 6 Sep 08
davey, bournemouth says...
9:58am Sat 6 Sep 08
fair enough of drugs were never illegal, but to legalise them after they have been made illegal is like an advert to take them.
Theres not a lot of issues with the lower drugs in the chain but legalising them invites abuse and thats where the issue lies.
Emulated, Bournemouth says...
12:39pm Sat 6 Sep 08
Pity so much money and resources are wasted on drug misuse and sad at the distress it causes to families.
debbie2110, bournemouth says...
12:50pm Sat 6 Sep 08
James Whale has always courted controversy - not sure if he just wants to be seen as an eternal pillock or whether he actually believes in any of his crape. But Im certain of one thing; the chap is obviously on drugs himself!
Imagine how many more long-term unemployed wed have if drugs were legalised? Would be interesting to find out JWs policy on long term unemployed due to incapability to work through drugs or alcohol. We already have far to many of this unemployable underclass, and if drugs were legalised Im sure wed have an awful lot more. Even Holland's liberal approach is not working 17th in the world for drug related crime behind USA at 41st (UK sadly is 2nd to Germany) see link to verify.
http://www.nationmas
ter.com/graph/cri_dr
u_off-crime-drug-off
ences
Perhaps UKIP would do better sending a delegate to Ireland to find out why they are 50th out of 60?
Carl Barron, Dorset says...
2:55pm Sat 6 Sep 08
Quote Mr Whale, who was fired from his late-night radio phone-in show when he urged listeners to vote for Boris Johnson in the mayoral elections, also suggested Britain should join the Euro.
Reply This statement as such' is absolute lunacy.
Was this Whale chap, HIGH on Drugs when he made this speech, it certainly looks that way?
Pity he wasn't tested for DRUGS use at the time.
On a more serious note. Yes the use of legalised Cannabis I do agree with, after having to watch day in day out people suffering pain that this drug can stop.
I think that after this speech the party should be known as, The K.P. Nutter's
No offence meant to KP Nut company, as thier NUTS are GREAT STUFF.
Greg Lance-Watkins, www.KidneyCancerReso
urce.com says...
3:02pm Sat 6 Sep 08
Now they are having a Whale of a time rebranding again - this time it would seem they intend to be 'The Dependence Party'.
All very confusing but I guess it gives them every opportunity to ignore their own NEC ignore their own Constitution & parachute in various candidates as potential MEPs to suit the entire management of the party a chap called Nigel Farage who has 'accepted' the resignation of his placeman as Chairman to replace him with a Chair who is more readily sat upon! More a throne for the glorious leader than a new Chair.
All so very confusing but never mind the nationals see them as a nib rather than news!
Regards, Greg L-W.
Won't it be nice if they can be cleaned up and UKIP reinstated to respond to its members and its own Constitution!
Carl Barron, Dorset says...
3:02pm Sat 6 Sep 08
"He called for complete legalisation of all drugs but suggested they should be licensed and regulated.
Phil, Poole says...
3:05pm Sat 6 Sep 08
Dr.A Rickard, Kent says...
3:33pm Sat 6 Sep 08
Many of us saw UKIP as the salvation from the bureaucracy and destruction of the EU. It is clear they are just a joke with no serious intent on gaining power.
I always thought it ludicrous to have a leader who is an MEP in the first place (afterall how can it be in his financial interests to pull out of the EU?) - however, I did not think they were this crass!
Reluctantly I shall be voting Tory - if only there was a suitable alternative.
AR
Gastines, St.Malo ex Bournemouth says...
4:20pm Sat 6 Sep 08
Great Britain, London says...
4:21pm Sat 6 Sep 08
Jeffrey Titford, UKIP MEP, is the subject of an investigation by OLAF while Robin Page and John West, both UKIP members, are taking legal action against UKIP over corruption in the party.
UKIP needs to be cleaned up or vanish.
Gastines, St.Malo ex Bournemouth says...
4:22pm Sat 6 Sep 08
Great Britain, London says...
4:35pm Sat 6 Sep 08
Chris McColl, Bournemouth says...
5:43pm Sat 6 Sep 08
It makes the Flat Earth Society's views appear rational and well thought out.
Maybe next year they should meet in Barking.
Should be a free phone box or two !
paul, poole says...
5:44pm Sat 6 Sep 08
Carl Barron, Dorset says...
5:53pm Sat 6 Sep 08
Quote Pity so much money and resources are wasted on drug misuse and sad at the distress it causes to families.
Reply a very good point you make here Emulated .
You maybe interested in the following facts:
Example 1 Requests to use same type DNA coating (otherwise called Smart Water) that was used on 'Ram Chips' when Ram Chips were being stolen to be used to spray all confiscated Drugs at point of detection.
Yet the Establishment said NO.
So why doesn't the so called Establishment want to make sure these confiscated drugs aren't recycled, or perhaps they are being recycled after confiscation?
paul, poole says...
5:57pm Sat 6 Sep 08
WIGGINS, BOURNEMOUTH says...
6:40pm Sat 6 Sep 08
davey wrote:You could get heroin on prescription from your doctor up untill the 60's -when the upper classes were the main users - but, when the great unwashed decided to start using, the powers that be made it illegal.
I lost my cousin to heroin you c0ck! fair enough of drugs were never illegal, but to legalise them after they have been made illegal is like an advert to take them. Theres not a lot of issues with the lower drugs in the chain but legalising them invites abuse and thats where the issue lies.
DingDonG, Wilds of Wiltshire says...
7:35pm Sat 6 Sep 08
"Let them take drugs, says Ukip quest speaker"
Did they seek out their "Quest" speaker, or was he an invited "Guest" ?
Bournemouth UKIP, Bournemouth says...
7:36pm Sat 6 Sep 08
http://www.conferenc
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p.com/media/media.ht
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Bill, London says...
12:35pm Sun 7 Sep 08
This, for me, is the last straw and my letter of resignation will be in tomorrow's post!
bluedelta, Bournemouth says...
12:54pm Sun 7 Sep 08
The BNP policy on drugs is to hang the importers and dealers.
Our sole concerns are that no more young people become junkies, and that profits from the heroin trade no longer subsidise the global Jihad.
The Labour government are granting junkies a license to steal.
Drug addicts will no longer go to prison if they burgle your homes, rob your shops and terrorise your streets. Because the government regard self inflicted drug dependent junkies as victims they are going to allow them to break the law with utter impunity due to their dependency on drugs.
In the mean time our taxes will also have to subsidise their trips to rehab clinics that will not work as they themselves do not want to come off drugs. Forcing junkies to attend rehab is pointless as a junkie will only come off drugs when they are ready to do so, not when the government wants them to.
This state of affairs exists because the government regards the heroin addict as a victim and not as a criminal, even though no-one forced them to buy the drugs and inject the drugs.
The BNP do not regard heroin addicts as victims, as the true victims of heroin addiction are only the innocent men, women and children of Afghanistan and Iraq who are being blown up, killed and left limbless by Islamist terrorist bombs funded by the heroin trade in the UK.
The other victims of heroin are young British soldiers fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan against those Islamist terrorists who are being blown up and shot by weapons funded by heroin grown in Afghanistan, smuggled into the UK via Pakistan, Albania and Turkey and sold in the UK.
The old response to heroin addiction was to treat the addict as a victim and see the problem only in relation to the individual. The time has come to deal with the issues of who is bringing the heroin into the UK, how they are bringing it into the UK and why the government has not targeted those communities who they know are primarily responsible for bringing drugs into the UK.
Political Correctness has failed and the time has come for more punitive responses to this crisis.
http://www.politic.c
o.uk/crime-policing-
uk/9444-every-heroin
-addict-uk-funding-g
lobal-jihad-their-ad
diction.html
Hugo Syn, England says...
3:52pm Sun 7 Sep 08
It is a total irrelevance in British politics now that its leader, Farage, is cosying up to the Tories and is being consistently beaten in the polls by the British National Party .
EUKIP's support and membership is withering on the vine and this situation is being exacerbated by continual in-fighting and controversy (see the detailed article from yesterday's Independent, http://www.independe
nt.co.uk/news/uk/pol
itics/rumours-plotti
ng-even-a-bnp-link--
is-the-party-over-fo
r-ukip-920824.html)
It seems to me that the only party offering a principled stand against the UK's continual membership of the federal monster that has become the EUSSR (and one that puts forward a whole raft of other common sense policies for the rejuvenation of our country) is the BNP .
Don't waste your vote or your time on EUKIP - they don't have any answers and they've just become a sickly replicant of the Lib/Lab/Cons.
Carl Barron, Dorset says...
4:55pm Sun 7 Sep 08
Quote Don't waste your vote or your time on EUKIP - they don't have anyanswers and they've just become a sickly replicant of the Lib/Lab/Cons.
Reply Very well said Hugo and bluedelta.
Perhaps the only credible alternate Party NOW, is the BNP.
All the prior talk about Nazi BNP when all along the New Nazi Labour inflict our society with its forever sickening and disgusting Nazi Storm Trouper Tactics.
1 Blocking off roads to harass motorist
2 Intimidating tactics of abuse of Anti Terrorist Powers
Read a Tory MPs Viewpoint as to how we should treat the Elderly for a start.
Geriatrics required bomb disposal asbestos removal etc
Statement by Matthew Parris Times Online March 15, 2007.
link below:
http://www.timesonli
ne.co.uk/tol/comment
/columnists/matthew_
parris/article151729
7.ece
Bournemouth UKIP, Bournemouth says...
5:18pm Sun 7 Sep 08
Carl Barron, Dorset says...
6:55pm Sun 7 Sep 08
Quote The BNP are like very sad stalkers.
Reply Sad you say, UKIP .
Yes indeed it is very, very sad that British Politics are so much in Total Disarray.
To the public there appears to be little to no direct leadership nor want of responsibility.
Brown sits on his hands totally inactive waiting to collect his HUGE Pension and leave us all in the Muck Heap .
For the record this is NOT BNP this comes from AGPCUK Check it out properly.
Just some of New Nazi Labours Tactics I left out.
You can find access to these News Items via TaskNews+hot topics
Link below:
http://uk.geocities.
com/tasknews/
1 Speed cameras fitted in mocked up workman's vans
2 Human Slavery used and licensed in the UK
3 See how the LAW Protects the Thief
4 Massive database to keep tabs on Brits
Details of every single phone call you make, email you pen and website you have visited could soon be stored in a massive government data base
5 Fingerprinting and eye scans for children as young as five
6 Britons may be forced to wear microchips
7 Microphones attached to CCTV cameras hear every word
8 UK Gov satellite to spy on your home's
9 Council tax snoopers to sell your data
10 All your private and confidential Data up for Sale
12 British soldiers forced to take loans to eat
13 Record numbers leave Britain for new life
Other Tory Tactics
1 Tory slashed tyres, made silent phone calls and sent gay letters
2 Conservative MP claims £20000 to paint house
John, Poole says...
11:05pm Sun 7 Sep 08
James Whale speaks
John Whittaker, during the speech. All pictures Corin Messer.
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amused, poole says...
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